Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-19 Thread Dave Purcell

Great thread, Barry. I've always been mystified by the fact that my 
musical taste was shaped, in large part, by a complete stranger via 
45s. When I was very young, one of my Dad's good friends 
distributed 45s to the jukeboxes around town. Before I can really 
even remember, I, apparently, used to play the hell out of my older 
siblings' records and this guy thought it was cute that such a little 
kid dug music so much. So he gave my Dad piles of extra singles 
and I used to play them all over and over again.

Two of the ones I remember liking early on -- and I still have them 
at home -- are Glen Campbell's version of Wichita Lineman and 
CCR's Travelin' Band (w/ Who'll Stop The Rain on the flipside). 
Going back thru that stuff now, I'm amazed at the diversity -- 
Brenda Lee, Elvis, Tommy Dorsey, Marvin Gaye, and gimmicky 
stuff like Chopsticks, Rag Mop and The Ballad of Snoopy  the 
Red Baron.

Mainly, I remember digging Travelin' Band like nothing else. Like 
Joe describes with Like A Rolling Stone, the beginning kicks in like 
thunder and you're off for a 3-minute thrill ride. And I suppose 
Fogerty screaming "waah" before the guitar solos appealed to 
the three-year-old me as well.

Another cool singles memory is of being in the seventh or eighth 
grade and having my pal Ernie come by with singles by some weird 
new guy named Prince (When You Were Mine and Controversy, I 
think).

Dave


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RE: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-19 Thread Matt Benz

Ah yes:

A battered van careens westward bound; headaches abound, sleeping bag
over my head to escape the smoke and the insistent chatter from the
front seats, driver punching the radio tuner again and again as 90's
crap-rock, depressing, moronic and slack-jawed beats
relentlessly,overwhelming the dial, the bluegrass station having faded.
Suddenly, a bright crackle of jangly guitars, and in the millisecond
before dumbass changes the station, my brain scans the riff, the sound
of a million songs, I just know it's one I want to hear, then the vocal,
and me and the other old guy bark: "Hey the Rasberries, don't change the
station". One of them perfect singles "I Wanna Be With You" and for the
next 2 minutes and fifty seconds, that old van, dangerously on its last
legs, with plates from another car and no registration, (as the PA cops
discovered and 3/4's of the band! but that's another story) was a good
place to be, and the sleeping bag came off the head and I lived a
little...




RE: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-19 Thread Matt Benz

The "era of the single" died when they stopped making 45's, IMHO. The
switch to those horrid little cassette's in the mid 80's and then the
"cd single" killed the single. I know, I know, a single is a song
released to radio, but who cares anymore? The 45 stood on its own as a
concept. They're still fun to buy: I just picked up some old James Brown
singles on the King label (a purple label, and one with his face on it)
and a couple Al Green on Hi. I don't even need to hear em: just to look
at em is perfect. Who even sees "cassingles" on the market anymore?
Who'd want em?

Then again, maybe I'm getting old.





 -Original Message-
 From: BARNARD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 7:25 PM
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: Era of Perfect Singles
 
 CK archly suggests:
 
  hope you're not suggesting that the list of 50's and 60's era
 singles are
  somehow superior to the singles of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Since that
  would be wrong. g
 
 No, but as several pointed out, the era in which the single ruled was
 drawing to a close in the 70s and early 80s.  As a medium, as an
 institution (running out to buy 45 rpm records by major artists,
 actually
 playing them, etc...), as a way to conceptualize the writing,
 arranging,
 production, etc., of a piece of music, they really mark an era.  In
 that
 sense, it's fair to say there was indeed an "era" of the single which
 is
 long over
 
 I certainly wouldn't suggest the music of one period is superior to
 that
 of another, but that there was a period during which the 45 medium
 dominated the airwaves and determined a lot of things about both the
 production and reception of pop music, I think there is little doubt.
 
 Smart-ass youngun! g
 --junior
 
 



Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Barry Mazor

I have something very uninteresting to say about thsi threadwhich is
that there were great rock and roll singles when they cared about having
them. (yes; yes;m Im know there have been dance singles since, etc; blah
blah... I wanna be clear)
...but a Perfect Single has a sort of obvious definition:
It has to explode at you and grab your attention in low fidelity  from
AM radio while wind is blowing past your convertible.  It does it a lot of
times.
 It has to open up a new world in 3 notes.
So the beginning, and sometimes the ending, is very important.

By that definition, these were some great singles--and like somebody
already said, if this gets you to put some of these on, and listen to any
one of them just like you've never heard them before--well, you'll see.
Uninteresting list really, because they did work with a lot of people when
that was the point.   I don't even have to name the artists!  It has
nothing to do with generations.
 But check out these mono singles'  beginnings...

Jailhouse Rock
All Shook Up
What'd I Say
Roll Over Beethoven
Tutti Frutti
Be Bop a Lula
She Said Yeah
Wake Up Little Susie
Peggy Sue
Papa Got a Brand New Bag
Higher and Higher
Twist  Shout
Having a Party
Quarter to Three
The Wanderer
On Broadway
Rescue Me
You Can't Hurry Love
Be My Baby
Uptown
Help Me Rhonda
I'll Take You There
You Really Got a Hold on Me
In the Midnight Hour
My Girl
Signed. Sealed, Delivered
Like a Rolling Stone
Satisfaction
Out of Time
Honky Tonk Women
She's Not There
You Really Got a Hold on Me
Hold On I'm Comin
Ticket to Ride
Eight Days a Week
Gloria
You Really Got Me
Gimme Some Lovin
Wooly Bully
Try a Little Tenderness
and
River Deep, Mountain High..and..
It's Over
(some know how to end em too!)

Barry M.







Re: Era of Perfect Singles ETC.

1999-04-17 Thread LindaRay64

don't know how this got me started thinking about literally life-changing 
hooks.  Probably that in spring cleaning I found my paperback deep blues 
which I must've started reading a year ago and then lost track of so although 
I have missed the entire thread, I'd like everyone to ponder a minute Muddy 
Waters' stop time (Willie Dixon gives credit to the whole band for this one) 
Hootchie Cootchie Man and Elmore James' Dust My Broom.

By the way, Miss Deanna Varagonna has some kinda stunning blues feel I must 
say.  Great show the other night with Mike Ireland, whom NO ONE should miss 
on this li'l tour with just Dan Mesh.  Who needs a band?

Linda, who thinks the opening of Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend stands up right 
nicely, if that has anything to do with anything



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread LindaRay64

actually, Mazor, I thought your subject line might indicate promising news 
for the new millenium.

Linda



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Joe Gracey

Barry Mazor wrote:

 ...but a Perfect Single has a sort of obvious definition:
 It has to explode at you and grab your attention in low fidelity  from
 AM radio while wind is blowing past your convertible.  It does it a lot of
 times.
  It has to open up a new world in 3 notes.
 So the beginning, and sometimes the ending, is very important.

 Like a Rolling Stone

Kimmie and I needed a car beside the Band Van so we stumbled across a
used Mazda Miata. I had driven MG Midgets and Austin Healey Sprites and
Triumph Spitfires in my 20s so I am obviously a candidate in my old age
for a two-seater, and this Miata was a low-miles $13,000 steal, so we
got it.

One day I'm driving along in the Austin sunshine, top down, radio on
loud, and the first splash of "Like A Rolling Stone" comes on the radio
and I crank it up to speaker-cone shred volume, jam the car a gear
lower, stomp it up to 85 and hold it way up there close to the redline
and it feels like musical sex. 

This is what music is supposed to do to you.  


-- 
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Barry Mazor


 ...the first splash of "Like A Rolling Stone" comes on the radio
and I crank it up to speaker-cone shred volume, jam the car a gear
lower, stomp it up to 85 and hold it way up there close to the redline
and it feels like musical sex.
This is what music is supposed to do to you.
Joe Gracey


Exactly; exactly, exactly, exactly. .
 With a great single you're far frot alone..
(Even for the new millenium, Linda!)

(I notice these responses come from several othger P2 members who, based on
previous converstaions, have reaosn to have experienced the Age of Perfect
Singles.)

PS: There's NEVER been an age of perfect albums!

Barry





Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 4/17/99 11:04:58 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ...the first splash of "Like A Rolling Stone" comes on the radio
 and I crank it up to speaker-cone shred volume, jam the car a gear
 lower, stomp it up to 85 and hold it way up there close to the redline
 and it feels like musical sex.
 This is what music is supposed to do to you.
 Joe Gracey 

not so much about sex as driving but this puts me in mind of a time I was 
driving a rental convertible across the bridge to Coronado Island and 
"Summertime" came on the radio.  Can't remember who did it, but you know the 
one, summertime, summertime, sum-sum-summertime.  One of life's perfect 
driving music moments.

Ha!  My daughter always used to whine, "how come you always turn the radio UP 
when it's a song YOU like?"

Linda, happy to be the mother of a perfect woman



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread BARNARD

Nice post, Joe!  And yep, Barry, it requires a certain age bracket...

Several of these "perfect singles" I recall hearing for the first time *on
the radio* and sometimes on the car radio.  Especialy Stones singles, for 
me.  I distinctly recall hearing "Honky Tonk Women" for the first time on
a radio in a dorm room and going nuts And immediately putting down
everything and driving to a *wholesale* record distribution warehouse to
find it because none of the record stores in town had it yet.  That drum
lead-in is still amazing.  Got it with that cool picture cover g.

--junior



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 4/17/99 11:22:52 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I distinctly recall hearing "Honky Tonk Women" for the first time on
 a radio in a dorm room and going nuts And immediately putting down
 everything and driving to a *wholesale* record distribution warehouse to
 find it because none of the record stores in town had it yet.  That drum
 lead-in is still amazing.  Got it with that cool picture cover g. 

jeez.  are we old farts or what!  I remember dragging myself to the car to go 
take my GMATs in the District.  I was living in Reston and the damned test 
started at 7:30 fragging a.m.  I had nearly an hour's drive on a Satuday 
morning with Leesburg Pike and the GW parkway all to myself and remember the 
whole trip to this day for the fact that some godsend DJ chose that time 
period to debut "Some Girls."

Linda



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread David Cantwell

At 09:08 AM 4/17/99 -0400, The Mazor wrote:

...but a Perfect Single has a sort of obvious definition:
It has to explode at you and grab your attention in low fidelity  from
AM radio 

As I've said elsewhere before, I feel really lucky to have gotten in on the
tail end of this era as it peaked (says me) in the early to mid-70s, then
dribbled out into the 80s. 

The greatest singles almost always ANNOUNCE themselves. You know it's I
Want You Back, or Mama Tried or I'll Take You There or Go All The Way or
The Wonder Of You or Let's Stay Together or Day After Day and on and on,
almost from note one. 

Like Linda, I wish barry's subject line was more prognostication than
historical desctription. --david cantwell



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Cheryl Cline

Great thread, Barry!

So Gracey wrote,

One day I'm driving along in the Austin sunshine, top down, radio on
loud, and the first splash of "Like A Rolling Stone" comes on the radio
and I crank it up to speaker-cone shred volume, jam the car a gear
lower, stomp it up to 85 and hold it way up there close to the redline
and it feels like musical sex.

This is what music is supposed to do to you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah (oh hey, that reminds me of a single)... but it doesn't
have to be fast, hard  dangerous -- GUYS, jeez g. It's not a single,
that I know of (how about that for a thread: not singles but should be),
but the beginning of "If You Were A Bluebird" by Joe Ely, with its cascade
of shimmering notes, makes me feel *deliciously* shivery all over. Then,
the song builds, and builds, oh my my! Actually, "Treat Me Like A Saturday
Night" on the same album does that too, but it starts slowly, builds and
builds, then goes all er, soft at the end -- sort of including the
afterglow, you know what I mean?

They always talk about how the old "cock rock" songs build to a climax,
just like GUY sex supposedly. But what about songs like "Eleanor" by the
Turtles? That song climaxes several times... and ends in an "ahh." Heh
heh.

Hevvins, my palms are getting sweaty.

One thing about the Era of Perfect Singles (yeah, I Wuz There, with a cheap
transistor radio glued to my ear) was how *many* of them fade out at the
end. And of course the DJs talked over the fade-out.

But for great endings that END, you can't hardly beat James Brown's "I Feel
Good."

I watched that Temptations TV-Bio (the first part with guilty-TV-viewing
pleasure, the last part like a train wreck) and -- wasn't the (brilliant)
beginning of "Papa Was A Rolling Stone" kind of *unusual* for
transistor-radio radio? Seems to me I thought so at the time.

Getting all nostalgic here, I remember the demise of my red transistor
radio -- I was taking a bubble bath, with the radio perched on the side of
the tub. I reached over to tune it in better and knocked it into the water,
right in the middle of "Incense and Peppermints." For an agonizing second
there I thought I was gonna be electricuted, but all that happend is that
the Strawberry Alarm Clock went "glub glub glub."

--Cheryl Cline




Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread LindaRay64

In a message dated 4/17/99 12:40:20 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But for great endings that END, you can't hardly beat James Brown's "I Feel
 Good." 

the little girls know. . .heh heh

YEEOOOWWW!

Linda



Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Barry Mazor


Like Linda, I wish barry's subject line was more prognostication than
historical desctription. --david cantwell

Well, hey--if they WANT to do that again, they will.  And for all we know
right now, an oncoming era of download quality stereo singles from the Net
may do just that, given kids (and old farts) will be no doubt asembling
their own downloaded DVD-ROM segues or something...The only question will
be how to get everybody to HEAR 'em, with all those isolated ears
so..atomized..and if they'll concentrate on the sound insteda of the look!

The 70s cuts David just mentioned are just as good to me, too..And they ARE
"in" just under the cut--'cept they often got to be heard in FM stereo!
And the 8-track, right?

Ms. Cline, as always, has reminded us just in time that there's uh, more
than one way to skin a cat.
Also just reminded me how much I like those Joe Ely cuts she's quivvered
up...Does this mean something?  Has anyone ever divided out "front seat"
vs. "back seat"  car songs? (Single entendre there, please--no anatomical
references implied.) ... Does it matter?

PS: I haven't counted, but I don't think ALL those "perfect single"
candidates I reeled off play it hard and fast and build to a full White
Rabbit.  But they do start!

PPS: Papa Was a Rolling Stone was remarkable in every way, including that
opening, which was unprecedented for that genre.  Whatever that genre is!
It always brings me a peresonal visual: I was helping kids in a foster home
north of New York with their homework nights at the time that came out, and
the Temps showed up on a TV doing this live as the kids were finishing up
one night ...There were soon 20 of 'em doing every move, and every note,
unrehearsed, I think..  Of course, they're all about  36-37 now! Bet theey
still know those moves.

Barry







Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Junior cheers...
Nice post, Joe!  And yep, Barry, it requires a certain age bracket...

And to that 'age bracket' thing is say, "Feh!" and "Feh!" again. I surely
hope you're not suggesting that the list of 50's and 60's era singles are
somehow superior to the singles of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Since that
would be wrong. g

Later...
CK
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Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread BARNARD

CK archly suggests:

 hope you're not suggesting that the list of 50's and 60's era singles are
 somehow superior to the singles of the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Since that
 would be wrong. g

No, but as several pointed out, the era in which the single ruled was
drawing to a close in the 70s and early 80s.  As a medium, as an
institution (running out to buy 45 rpm records by major artists, actually
playing them, etc...), as a way to conceptualize the writing, arranging,
production, etc., of a piece of music, they really mark an era.  In that
sense, it's fair to say there was indeed an "era" of the single which is
long over

I certainly wouldn't suggest the music of one period is superior to that
of another, but that there was a period during which the 45 medium
dominated the airwaves and determined a lot of things about both the
production and reception of pop music, I think there is little doubt.

Smart-ass youngun! g
--junior





Re: Era of Perfect Singles

1999-04-17 Thread lance davis

It would be nice if the perfect singles of this era--and there are more than
a few--were played on the radio, but unfortunately, they aren't. And since
MTV wouldn't know M if it fell onto its face and wiggled, what's a modern
single lover to do? It's as if the mass media outlets of today avoid these
songs for fear of catching herpes.

So, if the era of the "perfect single" was the '60's and early 70's, it
could be because these songs were written for (and digested by) a mass
audience (i.e. allowed to be "singles"). You can't tell me that "New Madrid"
or virtually anything off of Built To Spill's There's Nothing Wrong With
Love are anthems-in-waiting, but the only people hearing them are the choir
to which preaching is unnecessary.

Lance . . .



Re: Era of Perfect Singles ETC.

1999-04-17 Thread Bob Soron

At 11:47 AM -0400  on 4/17/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

By the way, Miss Deanna Varagonna has some kinda stunning blues feel I must
say.

This wasn't at all there when she opened for Vic Chesnutt, although
she's got a really nice voice. She might have varied both her material
and her delivery for the two audiences, but I can't make the leap from
what I heard to anything resembling blues.

Bob