Re: Outlaw Blues
Ph. Barnard wrote: Joe! Good to see you back... However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of us very far... In light of the current situation, what *do* you bank on? Anything strike you as a viable approach to the situation as it stands now?? Indies aren't getting people very far financially either, in most cases. What to do, what to do Curious, --junior Good question. Organize? A populist moment? A movement culture? Underground networks? P2 empire? Seems to me the bottleneck is in the distribution systems. That's where the big boys power lies, cause of capital barriers. I.e. Radio, record chains, high cost main stream media and advertising, etc. So what's needed is alternative, flexible, uncontrollable (in the sense of being widely owned or even unowned) easy entry and access distribution systems linked across all the various sites of production: recording, clubs, bookings, news and information, swag, etc etc. Gotta think some more about this. Let a thousand flowers bloom or something like that. Stuart also glad to see Joe G. back
Re: Outlaw Blues
completely unrelated to the movie, but there was a Dylan tribute album put out some years ago with that title. I've been desperately seeking it ever since I was at a Chuck Prophet gig and heard him do his rendition of "Abandoned love", which is on that cd, "Outlaw Blues". If anyone has this gathering dust in their collection, a tape of it (or that one song) would be the best I could hope for musically in 1999 ta Stevie
Re: Outlaw Blues
"R.W.Shamy Jr." wrote: It may have been a start to the Austin filming movement but we had to start at some point! Plus it built up the Austin music scene, Armadillo World, to name one. There are too many little details to mention. Anyway Joe, how's our girl Kimmie doing? Her cd is a big hit here in the North East? Give all my best! RW Actually, my grumpy reply aside, that movie was in fact part of the upsurgence of Austin as a music town beyond what it had traditionally been up to that point. I think it helped people to realize that we could make films here, record real records here, etc. As for Kimmie, we finally finished her new CD masters, which is why I'm back here in this esteemed forum. It's a helluva record, which her son Gabe produced. For a tiny taste (which is not necessarily representative of the whole record, only part of it) check out our website and get you an MP3 player ready to go... -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Outlaw Blues
"Ph. Barnard" wrote: Joe! Good to see you back... However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of us very far... In light of the current situation, what *do* you bank on? Anything strike you as a viable approach to the situation as it stands now?? Indies aren't getting people very far financially either, in most cases. What to do, what to do Curious, --junior Hi Junior, sorry I missed you when you were in town... I don't honestly know that there is a solution at this time. The major labels have left a lot of room underneath them for mid-size and small labels, but they can't afford to pay much up front because they are usually undercapitalized. Internet sales are a thing of the future, but at present they are fairly anemic. Truth is that bands who play a lot of gigs can make a decent amount of money selling merchandise. One thing that is easy to forget is that the so-called majors of today were once home and storefront businesses themselves in most cases. AM was in Herb Alpert's garage. Capitol was just a tiny spark of an idea in LA in the 40's. Motown, etc etc. It is never impossible in the music business to take something small and get big. I used to be a major-league bitcher about majors and radio and all of that, and I still bemoan the horrible changes that have taken place in the structure of those industries. However, the truth still remains that you can make all the dogfood you want but it don't do you any good unless the dogs like it. A hit will out. I still think that if you make something that enough people like, then you will sell a bunch of it somehow. Hell, even Leann Rimes is living proof that you can still have a hit from the ground up. My brains are fried from going to Jimmy Day's funeral today. I think something changed in the world for good. Joe -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Outlaw Blues
As for Kimmie, we finally finished her new CD masters, which is why I'm back here in this esteemed forum. It's a helluva record, which her son Gabe produced. For a tiny taste (which is not necessarily representative of the whole record, only part of it) check out our website and get you an MP3 player ready to go... The prospect of a new Kimmie record and our own Sir President Joe Gracey Sir back amongst us is almost too much good news to take in at once. Luckily, there's no heat in my apartment (er, that is, the one room of my apartment that's habitable), so I can't get *too* happy all at once. Welcome back, Joe. You've been missed. --Amy
Outlaw Blues
The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a question about the theme song that maybe someone here can answer. Who wrote it? I'm wondering because the music credits at the end of the film list John Oates. Is this the John Oates of Hall and Oates fame? (For those who haven't seen this 1977 film, it stars Peter Fonda and Susan Saint James. Fonda is an ex-con attempting to get payback from a big country star named Garland Dupree who stole his song "Outlaw Blues" while he was locked up at Huntsville. Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of it was filmed in Austin.)
Re: Outlaw Blues
Todd Larson wrote: The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a question about the theme song ...Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of it was filmed in Austin.) Yeah boy, when they came here to film that thing we all said "things are happening to us now!". We all thought it was but the beginning of a massive inflow of industry weasels and labels and publishers and record deals for everybody and probably the Apocalypse, too. After all, we had just won the Billboard Trendsetter of the Year Award at KOKE-FM for having the idea to play country-rock music! And Willie lived here and was starting his own label! And Texas Chainsaw had just been done here! etc etc. some of them things happened but most didn't, and it took another twenty years for any of it to happen in a meaningful way, and there still ain't no labels or publishers here bigger than a thimblefull of horseshit. However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of us very far... -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Outlaw Blues
Joe, I was an extra on that movie set! "Outlaw Blues" was the film that DID get things happening in Austin. RW ShamyWDVR-FM -Original Message- From: Joe Gracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Outlaw Blues Todd Larson wrote: The movie "Outlaw Blues" has been on cable this month, and I've got a question about the theme song ...Pretty entertaining stuff, and much of it was filmed in Austin.) Yeah boy, when they came here to film that thing we all said "things are happening to us now!". We all thought it was but the beginning of a massive inflow of industry weasels and labels and publishers and record deals for everybody and probably the Apocalypse, too. After all, we had just won the Billboard Trendsetter of the Year Award at KOKE-FM for having the idea to play country-rock music! And Willie lived here and was starting his own label! And Texas Chainsaw had just been done here! etc etc. some of them things happened but most didn't, and it took another twenty years for any of it to happen in a meaningful way, and there still ain't no labels or publishers here bigger than a thimblefull of horseshit. However, the live scene is still cool. And with Seagrams (!) owning half of the world now, I don't think banking on major labels will get any of us very far... -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
