RE: Sir Doug Sahm:
That would be it. Thanks Derek and Jim. Stay on the line, we'll get your addresses, and get your prizes out to you. M -Original Message- From: Derek Sampson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:27 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Sir Doug Sahm: From: Matt Benz They played a Sir Douglas Quintet song (Not "She's About A Mover") I'd never heard before, to my recollection, which is growing dimmer. Something about "rain rain rain." ANy ideas? Hmm, that could be "The Rains came" released back in 1965 and again in '66. Not sure though... Derek http://www.buckdiaz.com
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Matt Benz wrote: So I was listening to a oldies station which digs a little deeper, it seems, than Leader of the Pack: They played a Sir Douglas Quintet song (Not "She's About A Mover") I'd never heard before, to my recollection, which is growing dimmer. Something about "rain rain rain." ANy ideas? Did they have more than one hit? And is there a best of collection out there anywhere? And I mean of the SDQ, not DS. Matt "I gave love a bad name" Seems like the title was "Rain Keeps Fallin'" or something, but it was one of their followup hits after "Mover". They also had a hit with "Mendocino" (which I have heard played by an orchestra on Muzak.) -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
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Joe Gracey wrote: They also had a hit with "Mendocino" (which I have heard played by an orchestra on Muzak.) As opposed to an orchestra on Prozak... -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
Jon Weisberger wrote: ...the guy in Cincinnati who had James Brown et al. Syd Nathan, inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame not too long ago. "You know, everybody told us he was really a bear cat, but we never had anybody to treat us any better than Syd Nathan." - Ralph Stanley Thanks, Jon, I drew a blank. I have a tape around here somewhere of him ranting and raving at a staff meeting one day that is just astounding. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.country Crazy Cajun
At 11:24 AM -0400 on 4/11/99, Barry Mazor wrote: I was thrilled to get a chance to speak with Doug Sahm for a few moments in that Texicali Grill parking lot during SXSW, mostly just thanking him for good music I've gotten to listen to from him for about the last 34 years--though I didn't arrange to go to wrassling bouts with him like Slim Chance did! Props to Slim, but I can top that, I think: When my then-girlfriend and I ran into Sahm and Meyers in a hotel lobby in '94, Sahm used us as an excuse to ditch the interviewer (sorry if it was one of you guys) and ended up inviting us to Hippie Hollow with them and their girlfriends to go skinny dipping. Bob
Re: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
Will Miner wrote: Sigh. I try not to get too sentimental for olden days but it's hard not to wish for such things. Too many of my favorite records are from those days when music was locally owned and made as were the records and the radio, when saying "that's a band from Memphis" would have meant something. Just yesterday, I read a review of a new book by two Cinti writers called "Little Labels--Big Sound : Small Record Companies and the Rise of American Music." I can't find the review on the paper's website, but the book basically covers many of the small but influential regional labels, like King and Sun. The book apparently focuses pretty evenly on rock, jazz, and blues. Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
Re: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
Will Miner wrote: I'll vote for that (not knowing whether a Gracey rampage might be too dangerous to the locals). Sigh. I try not to get too sentimental for olden days but it's hard not to wish for such things. Too many of my favorite records are from those days when music was locally owned and made as were the records and the radio, when saying "that's a band from Memphis" would have meant something. And too many of my other favorite records seem to be trying to recapture the feel of the music of those times. Ah well. I'm in the process of writing some things down, and I remembered an "old days" situation that relates to this. When I was in Jr. High I used to hang out at the local recording studio in Ft. Worth where Maj. Bill Smith had his headquarters (I got to watch some of them records being made) and the thing was, he would cut a single, make an acetate of it on the studio lathe, and walk upstairs with it to KXOL radio (where I eventually was a kid DJ) and if the PD liked it, he'd stick it into the night rotation to see how the kids responded to it. If it did anything, Major Bill would press it up and put it in the stores and the rest would be history. Sam Phillips used to do the same thing in Memphis with Dewey Phillips. These were major, mass-market radio outlets. I daresay you could not walk into your local A3 outlet with a DAT of your latest single and be taken very seriously, and HNC would look at you like you were a dangerous lunatic. The practical effect of this was to remove the layers and layers of bullshit a record has to go through now in order to even make it to a programmer's hands. It really is no wonder that records sound so watery and wimpy- there are about 500 non-musical opinions between it and the air. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
he would cut a single, make an acetate of it on the studio lathe, and walk upstairs with it to KXOL radio (where I eventually was a kid DJ) and if the PD liked it, he'd stick it into the night rotation to see how the kids responded to it. If it did anything, Major Bill would press it up and put it in the stores and the rest would be history. Sam Phillips used to do the same thing in Memphis with Dewey Phillips. These were major, mass-market radio outlets. "A lot of record executives in their ivory towers could come down into a record shop and work on Saturday night in the ghetto behind the counter and learn a hell of a lot about the record business. That was the best test market in the world. We literally took the demos up there, put them on the turntable, and watched the reaction." --Jim Stewart, Stax Records, on the adjacent Satellite Record Shop
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On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: This is an essay I can't do justice to now, but Huey and his kind were great inspiration to me and I long for the days of freewheeling record making and real radio programmers in charge of their own playlists. I hope that era returns soon so that I can rampage across the land myself. I'll vote for that (not knowing whether a Gracey rampage might be too dangerous to the locals). Sigh. I try not to get too sentimental for olden days but it's hard not to wish for such things. Too many of my favorite records are from those days when music was locally owned and made as were the records and the radio, when saying "that's a band from Memphis" would have meant something. And too many of my other favorite records seem to be trying to recapture the feel of the music of those times. Ah well. Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.country Crazy Cajun
Barry Mazor wrote: I want to strongly recommend the recent 2-CD release of the earliest Sir Douglas Quintet recordings, as part of the general release of a bunch of anthologies from wonderfully motley artists on Huey P. Meaux's lil Crazy Cajun label. (Sir Douglas Quinet: The Crazy Cajun Recordings)...This is an important and enjoyable alt.country re-release. (snip of all-great stuff) I think this band doesn't always get its full due when looking at the histiry of this music we talk about, maybe cause Doug Sahm never died tragically but chooses to live--apparently quite happily--but with so many of these amazing cuts unavailable so long, I'd cerytainly suggest adding this one to any P2er collection. Barry M. Doug Sahm (the name is Texas German, probably not spelled the "right" way) was a child radio star at 6 on San Antonio radio, before radio was relegated to the back seat by TV. He has had so many extraordinary experiences and participated in so many watershed Americana musical events (Brit Invasion, 60's exodus of Texas artists to San Francisco, Progressive Country resurgence in Austin in early 70s, country hits, rock hits, free-form FM hits) that he is literally a walking encyclopedia of American musical history. He both loves and appreciates his roots and loves to pass on what he knows to the people coming up behind him. He and I became friends in Austin and he was a frequent visitor to my radio show, and I am indebted to him for many things. I think one reason he doesn't get as much ink, or credit as he deserves is that he is the quintessential Texas artist, so peripatetic that he never stays in one area long enough to become completely huge there, and because he never quite broke out into superstardom on his own after he left the Quintet. He is a force of nature. See him if you get a chance. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.country Crazy Cajun
Mr. Gracey, you have the most interetsing friends--but then, so do they. Barry Doug Sahm(read original for this part) is literally a walking encyclopedia of American musical history. He and I became friends in Austin and he was a frequent visitor to my radio show, and I am indebted to him for many things. He is a force of nature. See him if you get a chance.-- Joe Gracey
Re: Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.country Crazy Cajun
Yep, Doug Sahm is one of those people who are much greater than most of the "stars" that get touted in the industry Also a pretty generous guy who will talk your ear off if you ever run into him at Hole in Wall or some comparable watering hole on an odd afternoon, etc. g. BTW, Barry, I discovered the disc you were talking about in a catalog where it was listed along with a bunch of other Crazy Cajun releases. The whole slew of releases was extrememly impressive, although the Sir Douglas is definitely what caught my eye. I'll look around here and see if I can't find that catalog to recall what the other releases were. --junior
Re: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
Absolutely...they're all creeping their way into stores right about now too. The Collectors Choice catalogue is probaboy the one you're talking about, but I suspect lots of vendors and stores have them now. New Crazy Cajun discs include sets recorded in Texas or Louisiana by: Lowell Fulson Johnny Copeland Mickey Gilley Ronnie Milsap Delbert McClinton Moe Bandy Doug Kershaw And I believe you'll find a number of these guys on each others' sessions there; they played package shows together back when too; and the cuts tend to be ones NOT duplicateds elsewhere. UK Demon has these records back out. (I picked up the Sir Douglas when I was over in London.) Barr BTW, Barry, I discovered the disc you were talking about in a catalog where it was listed along with a bunch of other Crazy Cajun releases. The whole slew of releases was extrememly impressive, although the Sir Douglas is definitely what caught my eye. --junior
Re: Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.country Crazy Cajun
Barry Mazor wrote: Mr. Gracey, you have the most interetsing friends--but then, so do they. Barry Goes to show that if you stand around long enough in one spot, the whole world eventually comes by. try this at a party. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
RE: Crazy Cajun (was Sir Doug Sahm: Alt.)
...the guy in Cincinnati who had James Brown et al. Syd Nathan, inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame not too long ago. "You know, everybody told us he was really a bear cat, but we never had anybody to treat us any better than Syd Nathan." - Ralph Stanley Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
