Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-16 Thread cheshirekat
On Thu, Mar 15, 20079:03 AM, the following words from A-NO-NE Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

cheshirekat / 2007/03/14 / 12:06 AM wrote:

Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
an Intel Mac.

I haven't checked their thread, but this could happen.  If you have apps
that is ported from Windows, they most likely depends on less-Mac-
friendly dlib files, which Migration Assistant might fail to link. 
Other issue is drivers.  This includea some copy protection such as
PACE.  Migration Assistant will not copy drivers and kext files.  This
can be a real problem when app was copied but its kext didn't.

One more thing.  If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
good chance to spring clean your environment.  Migration Assistant will
copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)

-- 

- Hiro

Well, I'm avoiding Migration Assistant because I don't want my new Mac
to get burdened with any of my old PowerBook's baggage. I want to start
everything off fresh. I know I have some old stuff on my PowerBook;
lingering around even though I haven't used it for years. I've
downloaded stuff that I'd completely forgotten about until I'm looking
for something and find pieces of stuff I thought I'd long ago deleted.

Now begins the wait for the Fedex guy. I took the entire day off, which
means Fedex won't get here until after the time I normally get home.
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dine, write, read and receive my company. 
-   Thomas Jefferson 




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-16 Thread Dave N
I moved from OSX 10.3.9 G4/466 (upgraded to 1000mhz) to new 10.4.8 intel
iMac last month and did it via the migration assistant. It went really
great! I was really amazed! 

Tip: if you have multiple hard drives or volumes, only run the migration
assistant on your main (previous) boot volume. 

Tip #2: if migration speed is an issue; it's my personal finding that
putting your hard drive into an external firewire enclosure results in a
WAY faster copy operation (almost 2x) than direct from old Mac in Target
mode. For most people however, the time gained is offset by the time
spent pulling the hd. 

After I did the migration, I deleted (from the new iMac) some old apps 
data  no longer needed. But ALL my apps were ready to use right away,
saving me a few days of reinstalls. I only had to deal with some tweaky
System Prefs that I had added which were not compatible with the new Mac. 

Don't fear the Migration Assistant. It's pretty good if you let it do
it's thing without interference. 

Best,
 Dave N

in reply to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), cheshirekat's message of 6:40 PM, 3/14/07

I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
should I move to the new computer?




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-16 Thread Anthony Sanna
Well, I'm avoiding Migration Assistant because I don't want my new Mac
to get burdened with any of my old PowerBook's baggage. I want to start
everything off fresh

The best solution for this is to take your current backup (you do do
this daily, right?), and do a restore to your home folder on your new
Mac.  Then you can leisurely pick and choose files (and toss) as you go
along.  Files like Support and Pref files may be things you want to keep
around, while dumping the rest.

Tony
-- 
Anthony R. Sanna
SACO Foods, Inc.
1-800-373-7226
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-15 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[cheshirekat [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 14.3.2007 um 19:40 Uhr:]

...should I upgrade it to the current version on my
PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, ...

I did use the Migration Assistant to set up my new Mac Pro 2 month
before. I used PM 5.5.3 already. No problems with migration! I waited
for all my files to be migrated and everything was perfectly ready after
2 hours. I only had to put in the network in the first plug and
everything worked immediately. It could nor be easier. Almost every
preference was migrated. I remember there were only two or three missing.

I don't think that there is something against upgrading PM on your
PowerBook before.

If you really do not want to use the Migration Assistant, install PM
fresh and copy the folder PowerMail Files. In my case it resides in ~/
Mail/.


Good luck!
Subhash

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Retusche, Restauration, Compositing
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Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-15 Thread A-NO-NE Music
cheshirekat / 2007/03/14 / 12:06 AM wrote:

Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
an Intel Mac.

I haven't checked their thread, but this could happen.  If you have apps
that is ported from Windows, they most likely depends on less-Mac-
friendly dlib files, which Migration Assistant might fail to link. 
Other issue is drivers.  This includea some copy protection such as
PACE.  Migration Assistant will not copy drivers and kext files.  This
can be a real problem when app was copied but its kext didn't.

One more thing.  If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
good chance to spring clean your environment.  Migration Assistant will
copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)

-- 

- Hiro





Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-15 Thread Anthony Sanna
One more thing.  If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
good chance to spring clean your environment.  Migration Assistant will
copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)

This is true.  I've done it both ways.  The one semi-successful method
that Apple has is the Archive  Restore when reinstalling the OS from
DVD.  It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that
operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit,
need to be reinstalled from scratch.  In some thorny trouble-shooting
modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original
install CD's or disk images.  It amounts to a weekend watching progress
bars, however.

I just did a G5 - Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how
seamless the process was.

Tony
-- 
Anthony R. Sanna
SACO Foods, Inc.
1-800-373-7226
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-15 Thread Tim Lapin (sympatico)
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On 3/15/2007 2:31 PM, Anthony Sanna wrote:
 One more thing.  If you manually reinstall everything, it is a really
 good chance to spring clean your environment.  Migration Assistant will
 copy apps which you haven't used for years :-)
 
 This is true.  I've done it both ways.  The one semi-successful method
 that Apple has is the Archive  Restore when reinstalling the OS from
 DVD.  It will save everything from the Users folder on up, but apps that
 operate primarily at the root level, like Retrospect, Norton or Stuffit,
 need to be reinstalled from scratch.  In some thorny trouble-shooting
 modes, I have intentionally worked from a clean slate and the original
 install CD's or disk images.  It amounts to a weekend watching progress
 bars, however.
 
 I just did a G5 - Mac Pro, and was absolutely blown away at how
 seamless the process was.
 
 Tony

Can one be selective about the apps to be migrated?  I ask because I
have some stuff such as FAXstf which I don't want moved; it replaced
some of the system's FAXing capability.  There are also some remnants of
other apps that are part of the system startup routine, even though the
apps themselves have long since been removed.  Now-Up-to-Date is an example.

Given those questions, my inclination is to migrate only the data.  I
hope to get a new iMac to replace my aging G4 (400 MHz AGP) and do NOT
want any useless baggage to be transferred.  PowerMail should not be a
problem as long as my data folder is intact or would I need to re-apply
the license key should I reinstall the application from scratch all
while retaining my existing data folder?
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Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-14 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:

I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.

use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail Folder.
Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should
be fine.
Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder.

All the best

Matthias


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Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg
Geschaeftsfuehrer: P. Frank, J. Krey, M. Schmidt
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Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-14 Thread cheshirekat
On Wed, Mar 14, 20079:27 PM, the following words from Richard Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.

I get my mac upgraded regularly and always use the migration assistant.

It is just too easy and works wonderfully. Typically only have a couple

of programs I have to re-enter registration.


Through Apple's Discussion Forum, I've heard there are far too many
problems after using the Migration Assistant when going from a G4 Mac to
an Intel Mac. I'm opting to avoid that kind of headache and wasted time.
If I didn't have a 4 year old Mac, I'd be tempted to try the MA, but I
want the experience of enjoying my Mac quickly instead of introducing
problems.
-- 
I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
dine, write, read and receive my company. 
-   Thomas Jefferson 




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-14 Thread cheshirekat
On Thu, Mar 15, 200711:01 AM, the following words from Matthias Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:40:51 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:

I'm getting a new Mac Pro. Apple shipped it today. Considering that I am
using PowerMail 5.2.3, should I upgrade it to the current version on my
PowerBook so my files are compatible with the Mac Pro? I haven't kept up
with the upgrades because I didn't want anything to break before the new
Mac arrives. I don't plan to use the Migration Assistant, so which files
should I move to the new computer? Should I just install PM fresh on the
new Mac (what I planned) and only point PM to the correct database/user
environment? I have been copying the entire PM Files folder for backups.

use the current version of PM which is UB and copy your PowerMail Folder.
Start PowerMail by dragging the license file to the App and you should
be fine.
Maybe you need to point PM to the current PM folder.

All the best

Matthias

What is UB? So you think it's safe to install by copying PM from a G4 to
the intel instead of installing fresh? With the exception of the
database and other user files. 

-- 
I never before knew the full value of trees. Under them I breakfast,
dine, write, read and receive my company. 
-   Thomas Jefferson 




Re: New Mac Finally

2007-03-14 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:10:59 -0600 schrieb/wrote cheshirekat:

What is UB? So you think it's safe to install by copying PM from a G4 to
the intel instead of installing fresh? With the exception of the
database and other user files. 

you copy the app to your application folder from which source ever.
But you should use the last version (=5.5.3), because it runs native on
IntelliMacs.
Then you copy your PowerMail Folder to the place where you want to have
it, point PM to it, the rest will do PM for you.


All the best

Matthias


Admilon Consulting GmbH http://www.admilon.de
Am Wiesengrund 9a, 90584 Allersberg
Geschaeftsfuehrer: P. Frank, J. Krey, M. Schmidt
Amtsgericht Nuernberg: HRB 21750
Tel.: 09872-31 43 30