RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
As I can measure the dog odor emanating from your clothes. --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Free Vista for UK peps
Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ Tristan Leask Software Developer Marine Software Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marinesoftware.co.uk -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Opps, forgot this... Remember that from 5.30 p.m. today we are making available 1,000 copies of Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office system in return for correctly answering a simple question, the answer to which is contained within the presentations throughout the day (the first 1,000 valid entries with the correct answer will be eligible, terms and conditions apply). Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: Free Vista for UK peps Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ Tristan Leask Software Developer Marine Software Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marinesoftware.co.uk -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global Warming Skeptics
On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:58 am, Alan Lukachko wrote: Hi Alan! It is often explained thus: You can't cry Fire! in a crowded theater. You can disagree with the government. You can't give aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. You can disagree with your boss BUT your boss can fire you if you do. When did the US get rid of free speech and dissenting opinion in a free and democratic society? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:55 pm, Hal Kaplan wrote: snip George and his puppeteers and Cheney and Rumsfeld are criminals who allowed 3000 people to die on 9-11 and then used that as an excuse to have another 3000 Americans murdered in Iraq. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP THIS CRAP, PUT THESE CRIMINALS ON TRIAL, AND APOLOGIZE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD??? Hi Hal! Dang, you are getting to sound like Bill. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:54 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: snip I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. Hi Michael! Every winter they come up with this utter nonsense. I know, it is too cold for them to play outside. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Well I have to say, I have just been listening to the Keynote webcast and the London Underground stuff was pretty cool! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: Free Vista for UK peps Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FoxPro on Vista
I was with fasthosts but had loads of problems with them. 1and 1 do have some good add-ons including multiple domains but this email problem which still persists is wearing a bit thin. When I move I may try my own hosting on ADSL. I don’t have much traffic but I would like to get it :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hawksworth Sent: 19 January 2007 08:29 I am with ehosting (who lost their connections yesterday for an hour due to a power cut on the floor above their servers! [they aren't very amused]). 1and1 aren't on the floor above eHosting are they? ;) I dumped 1and1 a couple of years ago because I thought their whole service was shakey. My best experience is with FASTHOSTS or Energis (that is now a division of CW) but the latter is very pricey. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 761 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 18/01/2007 18:47 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Tristan, I was impressed as well. They even had a cock up at the end which didn't work! The 3D representation of the underground was truly impressive but I can't believe they did it in 2 days though Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 19 January 2007 10:21 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps Well I have to say, I have just been listening to the Keynote webcast and the London Underground stuff was pretty cool! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: Free Vista for UK peps Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
I'm just looking at the User Presentation workshop - good stuff. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 19 January 2007 10:21 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps Well I have to say, I have just been listening to the Keynote webcast and the London Underground stuff was pretty cool! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: Free Vista for UK peps Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Yeah, 14 days to produce all of that 'proof of concept'! Holy mother of god! The 4 people they have working as developers must be pretty clued up! Is the next session going to be broadcasted as well? Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 19 January 2007 10:32 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps The 3D representation of the underground was truly impressive but I can't believe they did it in 2 days though I'm just looking at the User Presentation workshop - good stuff. Dave Crozier -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Tristan, Don't really know. It seems you are free to just view the workshops I think, until the next live session, but when and what will that be? I'm viewing the VSTO session (Extending the Office Interface) and it is very interesting saying how to add com addins etc. Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 19 January 2007 10:37 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps Yeah, 14 days to produce all of that 'proof of concept'! Holy mother of god! The 4 people they have working as developers must be pretty clued up! Is the next session going to be broadcasted as well? Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 19 January 2007 10:32 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps The 3D representation of the underground was truly impressive but I can't believe they did it in 2 days though I'm just looking at the User Presentation workshop - good stuff. Dave Crozier -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Free Vista for UK peps
On Jan 19, 2007, at 4:16 AM, Tristan Leask wrote: Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. And tomorrow is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Ubuntu! http://www.ubuntu.com/ (and the next day, and the next day, and the ...) -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
that's my point exactly we were told the world was flat it wasn't we have been told that planets have gravity we haven't been to most of them so we do not know for a fact that these planets have gravity in answer to vinces question I don't have a clue which planets do not have gravity but I o know that I don't accept things just because people say so -Original Message- From: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:28 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Can you prove that? Kinda like describing the indescribable isn't it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities -Original Message- From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:16 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
By creating several APPs instead of one big, all encompassing EXE, do you manage memory better via your application's performance since in theory, when an APP was done, it'd be released from memory? (Assuming that's how it works?!?) The benefits of APPs is that you can build and ship smaller pieces; but the negative is that there's more parts to manage for the solution instead of one big EXE. Which do you usually do in your application designs? (I can hear Ted know---it depends. g) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[ADMIN] - encoded OT leaking through again
The subject of the message was encoded as: =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BOT=5D_=93The_Weather_Channel=94_Mess?= On 1/19/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... OT material... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
= = Hi Hal! = = Dang, you are getting to sound like Bill. = -- = = Regards, = = Pete = Bill was a grunt during 'Nam and has a lot of bugaboos for which I sympathize with him. Virgil was a radio op on a support vessel that got around but I don't think he was in the black budget business. I am not sure what you did but I don't think it was black either. I spent 2.8 years working for the National Recon Office (before anyone knew it existed) working on black budget stuff that is still classified today, 35 years later. I am not a bleeding heart. I am a pragmatist. Our present course of imperialism is the most intense, obscene, and counterproductive since James Monroe started it with the Monroe Doctrine. No practitioner has ever abused his constituency the way that Shrub has; not even the Alien and Sedition Act! So every once in a while I take my soapbox out for a spin. And it tends to happen when our present administration does something really, really, really dumb, as is the case with the AG's ovine defecation. Sorry if I startled you, Pete. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
= = And 95% of all statistical claims are made up on the fly. = = Gil = = Actually, I think the number is closer to 95.382%, Gil. s B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] RE: Office Enterprise 2007 - under $100.00
Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Retail Price $899.00 Our Price $79.95 You save $819.05 http://onhomeview.org I got the above in a lengthy email a few minutes ago. Gee, why pay the 900, when you can purchase for 80.00? I wonder how long this company will stay out of prison? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:18 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps Opps, forgot this... Remember that from 5.30 p.m. today we are making available 1,000 copies of Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office system in return for correctly answering a simple question, the answer to which is contained within the presentations throughout the day (the first 1,000 valid entries with the correct answer will be eligible, terms and conditions apply). Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: Free Vista for UK peps Follow up on Daves post a while back. Today is the day for UK people to win a free copy of Vista. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/launch2007/dev/ Tristan Leask Software Developer Marine Software Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marinesoftware.co.uk -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
Do you sympathize with his anti-semitism too? --- Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = = Hi Hal! = = Dang, you are getting to sound like Bill. = -- = = Regards, = = Pete = Bill was a grunt during 'Nam and has a lot of bugaboos for which I sympathize with him. Virgil was a radio op on a support vessel that got around but I don't think he was in the black budget business. I am not sure what you did but I don't think it was black either. I spent 2.8 years working for the National Recon Office (before anyone knew it existed) working on black budget stuff that is still classified today, 35 years later. I am not a bleeding heart. I am a pragmatist. Our present course of imperialism is the most intense, obscene, and counterproductive since James Monroe started it with the Monroe Doctrine. No practitioner has ever abused his constituency the way that Shrub has; not even the Alien and Sedition Act! So every once in a while I take my soapbox out for a spin. And it tends to happen when our present administration does something really, really, really dumb, as is the case with the AG's ovine defecation. Sorry if I startled you, Pete. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
On 1/19/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you sympathize with his anti-semitism too? Pearls before swine, i know, but there's a huge difference between not agreeing with Israeli policy and anti-semitism... A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities Actually, the 2 statements are not incompatible. If by UFO, you mean an extraterrestrial craft that has visited the earth, then, if you accept that fact that nothing travels faster then light, it's very *possible* that a UFO has never visited the earth. The drivers would die of old age before reaching here, if their life spans were anything like ours. But I do agree with you, that if we're the only life in the universe -- what a waste of a universe! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. snip For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, Kristyne, you tricky vixen, you. I can't believe you managed to totally get away with saying that Mike and Ed are attracted to each other. :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
Hal Kaplan wrote: = = And 95% of all statistical claims are made up on the fly. = = Gil = = Actually, I think the number is closer to 95.382%, Gil. s Hmmm. You just made that up, didn't you? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. *SNORK! SPLAT!* Dammit Ed, don't do that while I'm drinking coffee in front of the keyboard! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
You certainly are easily amused. --- Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. *SNORK! SPLAT!* Dammit Ed, don't do that while I'm drinking coffee in front of the keyboard! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan = = Do you sympathize with his anti-semitism too? = IMHO, some of the worst anti-Semites have been Jews. I don't want to open a can of worms, but one can make a case that were it not for Zionism, there would have been no Third Reich or Second World War or Holocaust as we know it today. I've said this before. The thing that scares me the most in any situation is fanaticism. Bush was fanatical about invading Iraq. The post-WWI Zionists were fanatical about Israel. Horrible things have happened as a result. It would be conjecture to say that the world might be a better place today if not for the Zionist support of Adolf Hitler in 1933 (as well as the IBM collusion with the Nazis years later) but it is almost certain that it would be different. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
Michael, By creating several APPs instead of one big, all encompassing EXE, do you manage memory better via your application's performance since in theory, when an APP was done, it'd be released from memory? (Assuming that's how it works?!?) One of the problems with APPs called from a single EXE is the management of things like SET PATH, SET CLASSLIB, SET PROCEDURE, SET LIBRARY, etc. In particular, SET CLASSLIB and VFP's class caching is a pain in the neck when you use this model. Specific to an example: you may have your main program use a base label object from your base class class library to display something on the desktop. Your APP module also has the same class library compiled in it to display labels within the APP module functionality. Your APP will use the one cached in memory by the EXE. The EXE might never get updated, and the APPs probably will on a regular basis. The APPs will get the latest and greatest updates of the base class library during each build. What happens is the APPs will still use the version of the base classes from the EXE because VFP is caching them. First in, first used. I ran into this at a client here in Detroit that you know. It was a nightmare to maintain, and in the end, you will find yourself compiling everything all the time to avoid this problem. The opposite way works as well. Say the APP is the first to bring into a cache a specific class and class library. The user finishes with this APP module and executes something from the core EXE or another APP module. Those will use the APP cached class which may be the same version, and older version, or a newer version. Hopefully it will be some compatible version. Do you feel lucky? This is not to say you cannot clear out the cache, or figure a way to release everything as you go in and out of the APP modules. I think life is too short to worry about managing these things. Otherwise I might enjoy coding in C++ more than a high level language such as VFP. It is my opinion that this model might work for something like account packages where users focus only on one module or at least one module at a time. If your app is going to be event driven and different modules will have active components at the same time, then I think you best consider not using this technique. I'll be interested in hearing if others have solved this and are using this architecture. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout = = Hal Kaplan wrote: = = = = And 95% of all statistical claims are made up on the fly. = = = = Gil = = = = = = Actually, I think the number is closer to 95.382%, Gil. s = Hmmm. You just made that up, didn't you? = No, Vince. I did not just make that up. I do not play with my fly. All of my statistics are hand-carved by old-world artisans; Euclidians; Newtonians. Every facet is carefully inspected and its validity authenticated by reference to the texts of Nostradamus. If Galileo had used my methods of assurance he never would have been cited as a heretic. There is no excuse for sloppiness in my production facilities. B+ HALinNY ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Well its 5.30 and its not their yet! Stoopid MS! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Posted At: 19 January 2007 09:18 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Free Vista for UK peps Subject: RE: Free Vista for UK peps Opps, forgot this... Remember that from 5.30 p.m. today we are making available 1,000 copies of Windows Vista and the 2007 Microsoft Office system in return for correctly answering a simple question, the answer to which is contained within the presentations throughout the day (the first 1,000 valid entries with the correct answer will be eligible, terms and conditions apply). Tristan -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marine Software Limited. Registered in England Wales. No 2576494 Regsitered Office. Unit3, Aylesham Business Pk, Aylesham. Kent. UK -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] RE: Office Enterprise 2007 - under $100.00
EBay seems to get away with it. Or rather they don’t care a damm what users sell. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: 19 January 2007 15:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] RE: Office Enterprise 2007 - under $100.00 Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise Retail Price $899.00 Our Price $79.95 You save $819.05 http://onhomeview.org I got the above in a lengthy email a few minutes ago. Gee, why pay the 900, when you can purchase for 80.00? I wonder how long this company will stay out of prison? -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 761 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 18/01/2007 18:47 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty!
Actually, I think the number is closer to 95.382%, Gil. s Hmmm. You just made that up, didn't you? Probably made it up on his, er I mean, the fly. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Caught out - Naughty, Naughty! Hal Kaplan wrote: = = And 95% of all statistical claims are made up on the fly. = = Gil = = Actually, I think the number is closer to 95.382%, Gil. s Hmmm. You just made that up, didn't you? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
Rick Schummer wrote: Michael, By creating several APPs instead of one big, all encompassing EXE, do you manage memory better via your application's performance since in theory, when an APP was done, it'd be released from memory? (Assuming that's how it works?!?) One of the problems with APPs called from a single EXE is the management of things like SET PATH, SET CLASSLIB, SET PROCEDURE, SET LIBRARY, etc. In particular, SET CLASSLIB and VFP's class caching is a pain in the neck when you use this model. Specific to an example: you may have your main program use a base label object from your base class class library to display something on the desktop. Your APP module also has the same class library compiled in it to display labels within the APP module functionality. Your APP will use the one cached in memory by the EXE. ... I'll be interested in hearing if others have solved this and are using this architecture. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. It's funny, I just did this (splitting into multiple Apps) for a huge VFE app. I had some trouble with the metadata splitting and such, it did take some time to work out. Here's a high level breakdown... Main module -- had all the base classes, intermediate level classes, graphics, menus and so on. If a class was called from two different modules, that class library needed to be included as well. That took some time to figure out. Subsidiary modules -- Project had all base classes and intermediate level classes in order to compile, but were excluded from the project. I found that if a class used a graphic on a command button, I needed to include that graphic in the subsidiary app even though it existed in the main application. Now VFE specific stuff Metadata was a pain. Each module (including the main one) had it's own Metadata table (the VFEMeta and SDTMeta tables were shared by all and didn't change). Basically, each module needed to have it's own MetaData table built at design time based on the project's VCXes and PRGs in the project that weren't excluded. It's easier to do than it is to explain -- it's a simple SELECT...INTO Table (Metadata table) statement. OK, so now we have subsidiary modules and a main EXE. What then? I did have to build another table like this: iID (I), cClassName (C 150), cModule (C 150), cApp (C 30), lUseSubApp (L)). This table was included into the main executable. When you select a menu bar that's tied to a form to run in VFE, a call is made to the application object's DoForm method. It could look like this: RETURN THIS.oApplication.DoForm([FormClassToBeCalled]) Okay, so far, so good. What does this extra table do? Well, when DoForm is called, I look up this form class in the table. If I get a hit on cClassName (meaning, I have a match), then see if I've loaded the metadata for the application in cApp. If so, great, if not, load it (as opposed to SET CLASSLIB...Additive, one must use SET CLASSLIB IN (cApp) Additive). Then, as opposed to using CREATEOBJECT() to load the form, I use NEWOBJECT(lcClassName, lcModule, lcApp), where lcModule is the cModule field (basically, the class library) and lcApp is the cApp field (both ALLTRIM() ed). So what is the lSubApp field used for? This is a bit tricky, so bear with me. This app has a lot of interrelated pieces. Some of the forms are in the main module because they're called from multiple places. But their child grids are specific for that module. What a lUseSubApp = .f means is to load the metadata associated with the subsidiary application, but make the call from the main module -- IOW, use NEWOBJECT(lcClassName, lcModule) without the lcApp. Now it was a matter of putting the right class libraries in the right modules. When things got shuffled, be sure to exclude classes from the project when appropriate so they're not duplicated and regenerate metadata for the projects with shuffled class libraries (Side note: The metadata for the main project needed an additional record for the menu classes and would be added manually when regenerating). Gains: More memory, much more snappier load times and the app feels less boggy, even though it's huge. Downside, figuring out all this. But in this case, it's clearly worth it. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Why thank you... Unfortunately I like to party just as hard as I like to work and so I probably wouldn’t be a good fit grin Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helio W. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:00 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics You could be a great theologian, Virgil. On 1/18/07, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I look at it a lot differently then you. We have NOT been to very many planets. Therefore we do NOT know without a doubt that these planets have gravity, do we ? In other words, just because you tell me something is so, doesn't necessarily make it so, does it ? Now you may want to believe that you are always correct, but I know that nobody is always correct. Virgil Bierschwale --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
Naw, I was too young.. Just turned 49 dec 27th. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Kaplan Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:53 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle = = Hi Hal! = = Dang, you are getting to sound like Bill. = -- = = Regards, = = Pete = Bill was a grunt during 'Nam and has a lot of bugaboos for which I sympathize with him. Virgil was a radio op on a support vessel that got around but I don't think he was in the black budget business. I am not sure what you did but I don't think it was black either. I spent 2.8 years working for the National Recon Office (before anyone knew it existed) working on black budget stuff that is still classified today, 35 years later. I am not a bleeding heart. I am a pragmatist. Our present course of imperialism is the most intense, obscene, and counterproductive since James Monroe started it with the Monroe Doctrine. No practitioner has ever abused his constituency the way that Shrub has; not even the Alien and Sedition Act! So every once in a while I take my soapbox out for a spin. And it tends to happen when our present administration does something really, really, really dumb, as is the case with the AG's ovine defecation. Sorry if I startled you, Pete. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
It's funny, I just did this (splitting into multiple Apps) for a huge VFE app. Thanks for presenting this Bill. Knowing VFE, the shear number of class libraries involved and what this must have taken, I am very impressed. One question: do you release the EXE and all the APP files at the same time when you deploy an update, or will you only release one APP module without updating the rest? Most developers I know who want to take this approach want to shortcut the deployment by only releasing the APP modules affected. In some cases they want to add on functionality without disturbing the other APPs. This was the case I ran into for one of my clients who is a IT shop and they were running into the problem I described. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT]An Actual 1955 Good Housekeeping Article
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Re: Design question -- APP vs EXE for better memory management
Rick Schummer wrote: It's funny, I just did this (splitting into multiple Apps) for a huge VFE app. Thanks for presenting this Bill. Knowing VFE, the shear number of class libraries involved and what this must have taken, I am very impressed. One question: do you release the EXE and all the APP files at the same time when you deploy an update, or will you only release one APP module without updating the rest? The plan is to update only the modules as necessary. One thing I haven't done yet (as it really isn't relevant in this case) -- having a procedure in all of the subsidiary applications that'll return some sort of version number for that specific subsidiary application. Most developers I know who want to take this approach want to shortcut the deployment by only releasing the APP modules affected. In some cases they want to add on functionality without disturbing the other APPs. This was the case I ran into for one of my clients who is a IT shop and they were running into the problem I described. In my case the main reason was slightly selfish -- the debug cycle for making and testing changes in one large application was taking too long. But there's added benefit to the user, as noted previously. BTW, you could do the deploy updated classes with VFE without all this rigamarole. Currently, VFE builds it's own metadata that *includes* excluded class libraries. So you can have an empty class library, say a_Extra.VCX, that's excluded, at design time. If this class library is loaded before the others at run time, you're all good to go (In theory, I haven't tried this). Ship your updated classes in a_Extra.VCX and away you go. Bill Anderson ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said... Some planets have gravity Some don't.. Which one is correct ? Does gravity pull down, or does it have no pull at all ? Your wonderful way with words and your superior intellect makes me think that perhaps neither is correct and that the theory of gravity, is only a theory. We... there is no 'theory' of gravity. And not only planets, even you 'have gravity'. It has been observed that masses attract each other with a force directed along the line between the line of the centers of mass of the objects which is proportional to the product of the masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. This is no theory, it is observation. Thus Fg = G m1.m2/d where Fg = force of gravity, G = is the universal gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are both masses, and d = distance between the objects. In the earth at sea level Fg = g.m where g = 9.8m/sec.sq. = G.M/R (M = mass of the earth, R = radius of the earth) , m is your mass and Fg is your weight (the force that pulls you down). Interesting enough you exert the same force on earth, so when you are falling towards earth the earth is falling towards you (you don't notice because earth's mass is a 'little bit' greater than yours). So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). That's it, now you too have a 'superior intellect'. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:11 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:59 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. LOL!! So which one is correct ? Certainly not the silliness of your first sentence. I thought you were trying to be serious. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Besides, if you consider the fact that Mike has absolutely no brain mass, the gravitational force exerted by Mike over ANY object no matter how close it is, is almost nil. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying Global WarmingSkeptics
Pete Theisen wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 7:54 pm, Michael Madigan wrote: snip I believe they had snow in Malibu today. Blame that on global warming. Hi Michael! Every winter they come up with this utter nonsense. I know, it is too cold for them to play outside. Yeah! Scientists! The only true science is the science of Chi and its paths, and the multiversal radiations from the planets that configure our astrological destiny. hahaha ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's my point exactly we were told the world was flat it wasn't we have been told that planets have gravity we haven't been to most of them so we do not know for a fact that these planets have gravity in answer to vinces question I don't have a clue which planets do not have gravity but I o know that I don't accept things just because people say so Yeah! There is no REAL internet, its just a dwarf that's writing this stuff to get you annoyed. There are no other countries, not even other states except the ones you have visited. And by the way, Bush did not really win the election, I mean, did you count the votes? I didn't! -Original Message- From: john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:28 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Can you prove that? Kinda like describing the indescribable isn't it? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Anderson Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Ed Leafe wrote: On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:26 PM, Vince Teachout wrote: I don't have any interest into getting into this discussion, but which planets don't have gravity? Only the ones on the 'left' side of the universe. Gravity is a liberal plot to keep conservatives down. Well to be fair, any planet with no mass would have no gravity... ;) Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny I've been told that ufo s don't exist however I can look at the millions of stars in the sky and common logic tells me that it is impossible that we are the only ones when there are that many possibilities Have you been to space? So how do you know stars exist. Maybe they are holes in a black curtain. Watch out! You're getting too credulous! -Original Message- From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:16 am Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Virgil, Why yes I do, and I also understand that some planets have it and some don't. The theory of gravity is that any body exerts a force on any other body in an amount that is related to the mass of each body and the distance between them. There are no planets without gravity. None. For example, Madigan is exerting a gravitational force on Ed Leafe, but it is such a weak gravitational force due to the distance between their two bodies that Ed is unable to measure it. He can measure the air currents which emanate from Madigan with an anemometer (set to measure high velocity, high temperature winds), however. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.mcstyles.com http://www.tenajahome.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). Well, y'all have your opinion, and I have mine (trying to beat Virgil to the predictable 'aw, shucks' reply). -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
Jean Laeremans wrote: On 1/19/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you sympathize with his anti-semitism too? Pearls before swine, i know, but there's a huge difference between not agreeing with Israeli policy and anti-semitism... Pearls go before swine and swine go before Mike. That's the natural order. A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Cheney is better liked than Bush?
From Fox News, of all sources: 58% of people disapprove of the job Bush is doing, while only 53% disapprove of Cheney's work. http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/011807_foxnewspoll.pdf -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
no problem don't have dsl or phone so I don't get on that much by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie -Original Message- From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics Date: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:55 pm Size: 910 bytes To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: So ALL PLANETS 'HAVE GRAVITY', AND ALL OBJECTS AND PEOPLE 'HAVE GRAVITY'. (of course this can be explained through relativity but Newton's formulas are good enough and simple enough for all practical everyday use). Well, y'all have your opinion, and I have mine (trying to beat Virgil to the predictable 'aw, shucks' reply). -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie I don't cop an 'aw shucks' attitude, so you're claiming that somehow I don't believe in motherhood or apple pie? This is almost as loopy as stating that gravity exists on a planet- by-planet basis! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Free Vista for UK peps
Been there, done that, and its sure the truth.. The majority of IT depts are one of the reasons VFP is dying in the corporate world. That’s because they inherited an app that they have to maintain that was developed by a NON IT person because IT was too busy to develop it themselves in the first place... I've seen many places where IT thought that it was the keeper of the gate and that they controlled what the business used and didn’t use. The problem is that when the business stakeholders don't get what they need to accomplish their business functions, then they start going outside of IT to get results. I talked a friend of mine out of starting his own IT dept in engineering once I could see his point, but there were better ways to accomplish that without the problems it would create. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:26 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Free Vista for UK peps On 1/19/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By SMB's I probably mean SB's because I guess that the majority of VFP software is installed into companies of up to 200 personnel. I guess that would depend on how you measure it. I have worked for a number of Fortune 500 companies that had VFP apps deployed widely. In one case, I did some maintenance on an application that was on 18,000 desktops. So how do you count it? One app in one company? Or 18,000 VFP runtimes? F500s are a lot like a bunch of SMBs that sometimes get along. HR has their West-Wind-based HR application, Field Service has their VFP-based trouble ticket application, Accounting has their audit app, but IT claims not to support VFP... -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
It’s a culture thing ed.. Something you will never understand because I don't understand yours anymore then you understand mine. I do tolerate your's though grin Don't worry though because I still like you and if we ever bump into each other, I'll be more then happy to let you buy the first round (did I mention I like turkey and water or miller lite ?). If by some miracle, I'm gainfully employed again (believe me, I'm trying), then I'll be more then happy to iron out our differences with me buying the many rounds it will take...! By the way, I havent said that gravity exists or doesn’t... You said that. All I said is that it is a theory and a theory is only that until it has been proven or disproven by history, not by another theory. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:44 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics On Jan 19, 2007, at 7:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way you shouldn't knock the aw shucks as there are a lot of people that still believe in mom and apple pie I don't cop an 'aw shucks' attitude, so you're claiming that somehow I don't believe in motherhood or apple pie? This is almost as loopy as stating that gravity exists on a planet- by-planet basis! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] PC or Apple or ???
I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Re: test
I guess not anymore... Chet Gardiner wrote: Everything's bouncing [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Go ahead and buy a new computer with MS Vista. It will solve all your problems! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:42 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] PC or Apple or ??? I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Gravity is the glue that holds the universe together. It guides the stars, planets, comets, and all the masses with greater precision than the finest watch ever made. Gravity is one of the basic forces of the universe, and exists in a pure energy state; although, I think it is possible that matter can be created from gravity by the process of transference of energy into mass. Matter, (e.g. bound energy), has mass, but energy has zero mass. I also think it is possible that matter can be converted back into energy through a process of transference, in which case the mass of the object would be reduced equal to the amount transferred into energy. I think to understand the universe, and gravity, requires a greater understanding of the atom, and how gravity interacts with the atoms of the periodic table which join to form molecules of matter. To understand gravity may even require a better understanding of the sub-atomic world. I think gravity is an attractive force, and much like the atoms which holds together even when electrons and protons are orbiting around the nucleus at the speed of light; so the universe holds together. I think the universe could be though of as a kind of large scale version of the atomic and molecular worlds, where atoms in the periodic table join together to form molecules like hydrogen, oxygen silver, gold, uranium, etc. Many molecules will join together without any help from mankind, and the structure of the bound molecules hold a horrifyingly amount of energy. It is almost impossible to destroy an atom, (eg Collapse an atom, but it can be done using cold temperature physics), and we all know what happens when the delicate balance of the uranium molecule is disturbed by splitting one of its atoms. The whole mass instantaneous fly apart with a terrible explosion. Gravity has a constant force which can be used in any equation. The gravitational force can be computed by applying the constant to the relation of the distance between the two bodies and the mass of the two bodies to solve the equation. Newton found the constant G force, but he though that the effect of gravity was instantaneous. Later scientist discovered that gravity, as a force of energy, was limited to the speed of light. Therefore, the effect of gravity is not instantaneous. For example, the gravitation relationship between the Sun and earth are delayed by eight second due to the distance between the two bodies and the speed limits of energy (eq constant speed of light). The G force diminishes greatly (eg exponentially) as the distance between two bodies increases. Therefore, bodies that are far apart have little gravitational effect on each other. The universe, like the atom and molecules, may be balanced, so that if something on one side of the universe flips one way, there would be a corresponding opposite flip in the other side of the universe, which would happen instantaneously, regardless of distance and the speed limit of energy. Regards, LelandJ Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hal Kaplan wrote: Global warming has ceased in the metro NYC area. We finally got some measurable snow. If you are truly all alone in the universe then there is no gravity. All theories exist at the pleasure of a lack of superior knowledge. Virgil is right although the theory of gravity suggests that all objects exert a force on all other objects. The theory also suggests that the magnitude of the force is related to the mass of a particular object. Mass is an artifice invented by humans. It is a magnitude you can assign to bodies, with a lot of useful properties. Quantum physics is an artifice invented by humans. String theory is an artifice invented by humans. These systems all work well because nothing has completely disproved them ... yet. Physics does NOT explain the world. It just tries to predict what's going to happen. A theory is good as long as it predicts with acceptable precision what's going to happen. Feti are not human beings ... they are not deductible as dependents under the United States Internal Revenue Code. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Can Apples run 2 monitors? Chet Gardiner wrote: I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Hi Chet ! Just a thought - D/L burn a Knoppix CD (or DVD - a lot more goodies) and pop it into your pc re-boot. If USB printer work - you know for sure it's WinBlows that is the problem ! Knoppix is a live CD/DVD that runs completely off the cd - no need for hd, and it's excellent at picking up hardware. (Ubuntu is based on Knoppix ...) You might have to use another pc to d/l burn a good copy - http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html There's a ton of software already there - and an easy installer, if you want to put it on the hard drive. Audacity might do for your audio work and there's a VM already there too, for VFP and K3B will burn cd's dvd's ... -- ..bobp http://www.prosumers.ca http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com ---orig.- On Saturday 20 January 2007 02:42, Chet Gardiner wrote: I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
I would download the Mepis ISO (http://www.mepis.org/node/1462) file and give it a try as a live CD. You could check out the sound card, browsing the Internet, etc. all without reformatting the HD. Mepis is built on top of Ubuntu, but it uses the KDE UI. I think KDE is a bit more like Windows in it's conventions than GNOME is (Ubuntu comes with GNOME) but they're both good UIs. For email: Thunderbird For Internet browsing: Firefox For file browsing: Konqueror For video: Kino (it's rough around the edges but the price is right) For audio recording: Audacity For audio playback: Amarok For word processing: OpenOffice.org For spreadsheets: OpenOffice.org For HTML Editing: Quanta+ (my favorite HTML editor ever!!!) For CD video and data burning: K3B For DVD video and data burning: K3B For keeping everything updated: Synaptic and the command line tool apt-get Linux Windows however. That's a key thing to remember. But I really, really like Linux. Some things are a challenge, but freedom is worth that challenge! I would think that trying out a live CD is much better than plunking down some $$$ for new hardware, if the hardware is still good. I even took my live CDs with me to BestBuy and tried them out on the laptops in the store before I purchased. I ended up giving the store sales kid the CD to try out at home. He'd never seen Linux before. Kids these days!!! Sheesh. g Chet Gardiner wrote: I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Thanks. I'll give that a try. Don't know if it's hardware or software at this point... C Bob Patterson wrote: Hi Chet ! Just a thought - D/L burn a Knoppix CD (or DVD - a lot more goodies) and pop it into your pc re-boot. If USB printer work - you know for sure it's WinBlows that is the problem ! Knoppix is a live CD/DVD that runs completely off the cd - no need for hd, and it's excellent at picking up hardware. (Ubuntu is based on Knoppix ...) You might have to use another pc to d/l burn a good copy - http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html There's a ton of software already there - and an easy installer, if you want to put it on the hard drive. Audacity might do for your audio work and there's a VM already there too, for VFP and K3B will burn cd's dvd's ... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Thanks... Kevin Cully wrote: I would download the Mepis ISO (http://www.mepis.org/node/1462) file and give it a try as a live CD. You could check out the sound card, browsing the Internet, etc. all without reformatting the HD. Mepis is built on top of Ubuntu, but it uses the KDE UI. I think KDE is a bit more like Windows in it's conventions than GNOME is (Ubuntu comes with GNOME) but they're both good UIs. For email: Thunderbird For Internet browsing: Firefox For file browsing: Konqueror For video: Kino (it's rough around the edges but the price is right) For audio recording: Audacity For audio playback: Amarok For word processing: OpenOffice.org For spreadsheets: OpenOffice.org For HTML Editing: Quanta+ (my favorite HTML editor ever!!!) For CD video and data burning: K3B For DVD video and data burning: K3B For keeping everything updated: Synaptic and the command line tool apt-get Linux Windows however. That's a key thing to remember. But I really, really like Linux. Some things are a challenge, but freedom is worth that challenge! I would think that trying out a live CD is much better than plunking down some $$$ for new hardware, if the hardware is still good. I even took my live CDs with me to BestBuy and tried them out on the laptops in the store before I purchased. I ended up giving the store sales kid the CD to try out at home. He'd never seen Linux before. Kids these days!!! Sheesh. g Chet Gardiner wrote: I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Climate Expert Calls for Decertifying GlobalWarmingSkeptics
Below is a link with better explanation of the current understanding of gravity: http://www.astronomycafe.net/gravity/gravity.html Regards, LelandJ Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: Gravity is the glue that holds the universe together. It guides the stars, planets, comets, and all the masses with greater precision than the finest watch ever made. Gravity is one of the basic forces of the universe, and exists in a pure energy state; although, I think it is possible that matter can be created from gravity by the process of transference of energy into mass. Matter, (e.g. bound energy), has mass, but energy has zero mass. I also think it is possible that matter can be converted back into energy through a process of transference, in which case the mass of the object would be reduced equal to the amount transferred into energy. I think to understand the universe, and gravity, requires a greater understanding of the atom, and how gravity interacts with the atoms of the periodic table which join to form molecules of matter. To understand gravity may even require a better understanding of the sub-atomic world. I think gravity is an attractive force, and much like the atoms which holds together even when electrons and protons are orbiting around the nucleus at the speed of light; so the universe holds together. I think the universe could be though of as a kind of large scale version of the atomic and molecular worlds, where atoms in the periodic table join together to form molecules like hydrogen, oxygen silver, gold, uranium, etc. Many molecules will join together without any help from mankind, and the structure of the bound molecules hold a horrifyingly amount of energy. It is almost impossible to destroy an atom, (eg Collapse an atom, but it can be done using cold temperature physics), and we all know what happens when the delicate balance of the uranium molecule is disturbed by splitting one of its atoms. The whole mass instantaneous fly apart with a terrible explosion. Gravity has a constant force which can be used in any equation. The gravitational force can be computed by applying the constant to the relation of the distance between the two bodies and the mass of the two bodies to solve the equation. Newton found the constant G force, but he though that the effect of gravity was instantaneous. Later scientist discovered that gravity, as a force of energy, was limited to the speed of light. Therefore, the effect of gravity is not instantaneous. For example, the gravitation relationship between the Sun and earth are delayed by eight second due to the distance between the two bodies and the speed limits of energy (eq constant speed of light). The G force diminishes greatly (eg exponentially) as the distance between two bodies increases. Therefore, bodies that are far apart have little gravitational effect on each other. The universe, like the atom and molecules, may be balanced, so that if something on one side of the universe flips one way, there would be a corresponding opposite flip in the other side of the universe, which would happen instantaneously, regardless of distance and the speed limit of energy. Regards, LelandJ Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Hal Kaplan wrote: Global warming has ceased in the metro NYC area. We finally got some measurable snow. If you are truly all alone in the universe then there is no gravity. All theories exist at the pleasure of a lack of superior knowledge. Virgil is right although the theory of gravity suggests that all objects exert a force on all other objects. The theory also suggests that the magnitude of the force is related to the mass of a particular object. Mass is an artifice invented by humans. It is a magnitude you can assign to bodies, with a lot of useful properties. Quantum physics is an artifice invented by humans. String theory is an artifice invented by humans. These systems all work well because nothing has completely disproved them ... yet. Physics does NOT explain the world. It just tries to predict what's going to happen. A theory is good as long as it predicts with acceptable precision what's going to happen. Feti are not human beings ... they are not deductible as dependents under the United States Internal Revenue Code. B+ HALinNY [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] PC or Apple or ???
Download Ubuntu you don't even need to burn a CD/DVD for it, just run the installer... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype ::a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Patterson Sent: 20 January 2007 04:26 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] PC or Apple or ??? Hi Chet ! Just a thought - D/L burn a Knoppix CD (or DVD - a lot more goodies) and pop it into your pc re-boot. If USB printer work - you know for sure it's WinBlows that is the problem ! Knoppix is a live CD/DVD that runs completely off the cd - no need for hd, and it's excellent at picking up hardware. (Ubuntu is based on Knoppix ...) You might have to use another pc to d/l burn a good copy - http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html There's a ton of software already there - and an easy installer, if you want to put it on the hard drive. Audacity might do for your audio work and there's a VM already there too, for VFP and K3B will burn cd's dvd's ... -- ..bobp http://www.prosumers.ca http://bpatterson.qhealthbeauty.com http://apatterson2.qhealthzone.com ---orig.- On Saturday 20 January 2007 02:42, Chet Gardiner wrote: I've had it! My windoze PC is going south (AFTER LESS THAN TWO F*CKIN' YEARS)... While it's at it it's taken out my calendar file. It runs like a slug (XP home on a HP a810n desktop. The first thing that went was burning DVDs. Now it won't recognize ANY external USB devices (my main backup drive and Printer -- goody!) I will NO LONGER work in Windows. I'm tired of being a Tech Support programmer (it SUCKS). I'm prepared to buy a new machine for my main desktop. So, should I go Linuz on a PC or Apple -- WINDOZE IS NOT AN OPTION!!! I do lots of email. I do some video and lots of audio processing. The Audio processing is at a PROFESSIONAL level -- two-track WAV multi-track mixes to CD. I do some word processing (but often have to read word files)... I need iTunes too. I guess I'm landing on Apple but what about it??? My reservation about Apple is a response to not being able to get rid of the requirement to enter the main password to unlock the keychain on my girlfriend's iMac. We upgraded the memory, installed Tiger (10.4.8) and ran the keychain first aid and no joy. I found another keychain file in the top level library folder (called system) -- deleted it and then it worked -- no need to enter keychain password... Until next bootup then --- back to the nonsense. All OS's suck. Some suck more than others!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
