[NF] Question about classic ASP working with VFP9 SP2. How do I get a VAL() function in classic ASP?

2009-10-04 Thread KAM.covad
I really like ASP and how easy it is to make a web page with server side script 
processing. It is very much like VFP. I never had the thrill of working with VB 
but I guess that is what it is like. ASP will do all the things I want to do 
except:

There is no val() function? crazy. There is no way to get the value of a string 
of digits? who designed this compiler? Anyway, does anyone know how to do this?

A separate, related question, It is easy to read and write to a VFP DBF table 
with or without a DBC. I am using a DBC and DBF's that I build with VFP9 SP2 
and then read with an ASP web page. It works very fast and great except for 
another limitation: vfpoledb will only access character fields? Is that 
correct? Does anyone know if there is a way to read/write numeric fields?

It is fun working with VFP and server side compiling web pages because of the 
ease of working with IIS. It is (my opinion) much easier than VFP/SOAP, etc. 
You can pick up ASP in a week and be creating elaborate web pages.

Please don't recommend ASP.NET. I know it has all kinds of great functions 
missing (for some reason) from vb and classic asp, but I don't care to work 
with .net. My plan is to eventually move to python someday, maybe.

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Re: Printer Drivers: Screwing Things Up - Adobe comment

2009-07-24 Thread KAM.covad
I agree and never use that it anymore. Most of the Adobe stuff is a waste of 
money. I found something called PDF factory. It worked first time and has never 
failed. How many products can you say that about? It is very easy to set up. I 
have upgraded to new hardware several times, new operating system, etc and it 
always installs easily and works every time.



- Original Message - 
From: Gene Wirchenko 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:41 PM
Subject: Printer Drivers: Screwing Things Up


Hello:

  You work so hard at getting things to work.  Then, something 
happens to give you grief.  If it always happened, it would be easy 
to verify that your potential solution to it really does work.  If it 
is occasional, you can not be sure that you have nailed it.

  I have one of those situations.

  I would like to compliment Adobe on how easy they make it to 
use their Adobe PDF printer driver.  Unfortunately, since they do not 
make it easy, I can not very well compliment them.  This USENET 
message of mine (e59oh2111dikqj55oa91cdse0984htu...@4ax.com) says 
quite a bit of it.

  Occasionally, I run into what appears to be a race condition 
between printing with the Adobe PDF driver and copying the PDF.  I 
posted here about this.  My potential solution is to have two Adobe 
PDF printer drivers and printing one copy to each Adobe PDF 
printer.  Occasionally, it hangs up.

  My code is not buggy, at least to the extent that it does 
usually work.  The problem may well be Adobe's code.  Whatever.  I 
need to assure myself that I have indeed solved the problem.

  What can cause trouble for a printer driver?  I would like to 
force the problem to appear, at least fairly reliably, so that I can 
check my solution.  Any ideas?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko



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Re: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.

2009-07-24 Thread KAM.covad
Full disclosure: I have not tried it. One of the support guys here is a 
techy-type and has installed each Win7 beta using vmware or something like 
that. He tries every version of our software on Win2000 -  win 7 and lets the 
programmers (like me) know when there is a problem. All our 'windows compiled' 
software is now in vfp9 sp2. To date, not even one problem has been reported 
with Win7. 

I (this is my personal opinion) refuse to use Vista (nickname crap/Win ME). 
Unfortunately we have many clients that got it on new hardware so we are FORCED 
to support that crap. We are looking forward to Win7 because it seems that it 
will have some parts that work, unlike Vista and ME. I still work on Win2000 
which I still insist is the last good operating system that M$ made. 

For me, the test is simple. Right-click on 'my computer'. Share the C: drive. 
If it is really shared, you have an operating system that is worth a sh.t. If 
it is not shared, then you have crap. Now, if M$ would have some kind of dialog 
that would walk you through the sharing, then I would be convinced. To date, 
sharing XP, 2003, Vista is hit or miss. When you 'share' the drive, you have 
done nothing. The drive is not shared. Not even close. Instead of doing the 
work I should be doing, I am fishing around on local policy, services, and 
other obscure menus and stupidily worded selections that change with every 
version. There is nothing consistent. Nothing is ever fixed. Things are just 
moved around and renamed to make you think that there is some kind of 
development going on at M$.

Right now, my development network has 2 Win2000, 2 XP and 1 Win2003 and a 
Crapsta laptop that is turned off. All computers can freely share all files 
This is required for development of software - except one of the XP computers 
cannot access the 2003 server and the 2003 server cannot access that XP. Both 
can 'see' each other in the network display. Neither can ping the other. When 
you click on the computer name, it says you don't have permission. All 
computers are logged in with the Administrator user so that is stupid and not 
true. There is no domain. Only an idiot would design an operating system like 
this. It is obvious that there is no quality control. No one tested this crap. 
It is easy to copy files between those two computers when you are on any of the 
other computers so there is no question about all computers being connected 
correctly. Microsoft designs are garbage. There is no quality. No thinking. 
There is no one in charge. The company is obviously run by lawyers a
 nd sales people. The company is obviously a monopoly and we will all be stuck 
with this crap for a long time. 

The latest stock market reports have a hint of the future. For the first time 
M$ operating system sales are down. Is anyone listening at M$? Has anyone 
bothered to read any of the blogs? Does anyone know that there might be a 
problem? No. they are all millionares and think that anyone who can't use their 
crap is an idiot. They know there is no other place to go. I am sure they say 
screw the dumb asses who can't use this crap.




- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hart 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.


Hi Matt
Been running Windows 7 on 3 machines here for about 6 months.  All are
never switched off.  I have had no trouble connecting any of the
peripherals here.  It just finds my Network Storage devices etc. I
thought it would stutter on a Konica Minolta Colour laser we use here
which is nearly 5 years old but they all just found it.  My wife runs my
accounting system (VFP 9 service pack 2) and doesn't see that much
difference in the way it displays the text box's etc. All three are 64
bit and before that they all ran XP 64 bit.  Just installed it on a
spare drive for my Laptop and again it just installed and ran.  A bit of
a learning curve especially hard for someone my age but we are getting
there with the help of the Wiz Kids who work for me.  I know that when I
go back to my XP machine which I use for development I am getting
increasingly frustrated because some of the productivity features are
missing. As far as the install is concerned it just gets on with it and
installs with a minimum of fuss and quickly.  Then the windows 7
machines are running faster with less Memory and slower Processes that
my machine which has everything going.

Done a small amount of VFP development on one of them and I have had no
problems with that.  Haven't had time to check with the noted Vista bugs
to see if they are still there.

I have run the Beta and now the trial versions.  Expect to receive my
RTM versions sometime in August.

When I installed my Wife's I decided to install it on a new hard drive
just in case she didn't like it.  Then use a Program transfer program
supplied by LapLink to move the working programs across after first
uninstalling Office 2007 and others for 

Re: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.

2009-07-24 Thread KAM.covad
Full disclosure: I have not tried it. One of the support guys here is a 
techy-type and has installed each Win7 beta using vmware or something like 
that. He tries every version of our software on Win2000 -  win 7 and lets the 
programmers (like me) know when there is a problem. All our 'windows compiled' 
software is now in vfp9 sp2. To date, not even one problem has been reported 
with Win7. 

I (this is my personal opinion) refuse to use Vista (nickname crap/Win ME). 
Unfortunately we have many clients that got it on new hardware so we are FORCED 
to support that crap. We are looking forward to Win7 because it seems that it 
will have some parts that work, unlike Vista and ME. I still work on Win2000 
which I still insist is the last good operating system that M$ made. 

For me, the test is simple. Right-click on 'my computer'. Share the C: drive. 
If it is really shared, you have an operating system that is worth a sh.t. If 
it is not shared, then you have crap. Now, if M$ would have some kind of dialog 
that would walk you through the sharing, then I would be convinced. To date, 
sharing XP, 2003, Vista is hit or miss. When you 'share' the drive, you have 
done nothing. The drive is not shared. Not even close. Instead of doing the 
work I should be doing, I am fishing around on local policy, services, and 
other obscure menus and stupidily worded selections that change with every 
version. There is nothing consistent. Nothing is ever fixed. Things are just 
moved around and renamed to make you think that there is some kind of 
development going on at M$.

Right now, my development network has 2 Win2000, 2 XP and 1 Win2003 and a 
Crapsta laptop that is turned off. All computers can freely share all files 
This is required for development of software - except one of the XP computers 
cannot access the 2003 server and the 2003 server cannot access that XP. Both 
can 'see' each other in the network display. Neither can ping the other. When 
you click on the computer name, it says you don't have permission. All 
computers are logged in with the Administrator user so that is stupid and not 
true. There is no domain. Only an idiot would design an operating system like 
this. It is obvious that there is no quality control. No one tested this crap. 
It is easy to copy files between those two computers when you are on any of the 
other computers so there is no question about all computers being connected 
correctly. Microsoft designs are garbage. There is no quality. No thinking. 
There is no one in charge. The company is obviously run by lawyers a
 nd sales people. The company is obviously a monopoly and we will all be stuck 
with this crap for a long time. 

The latest stock market reports have a hint of the future. For the first time 
M$ operating system sales are down. Is anyone listening at M$? Has anyone 
bothered to read any of the blogs? Does anyone know that there might be a 
problem? No. they are all millionares and think that anyone who can't use their 
crap is an idiot. They know there is no other place to go. I am sure they say 
screw the dumb asses who can't use this crap.




- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hart 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.


Hi Matt
Been running Windows 7 on 3 machines here for about 6 months.  All are
never switched off.  I have had no trouble connecting any of the
peripherals here.  It just finds my Network Storage devices etc. I
thought it would stutter on a Konica Minolta Colour laser we use here
which is nearly 5 years old but they all just found it.  My wife runs my
accounting system (VFP 9 service pack 2) and doesn't see that much
difference in the way it displays the text box's etc. All three are 64
bit and before that they all ran XP 64 bit.  Just installed it on a
spare drive for my Laptop and again it just installed and ran.  A bit of
a learning curve especially hard for someone my age but we are getting
there with the help of the Wiz Kids who work for me.  I know that when I
go back to my XP machine which I use for development I am getting
increasingly frustrated because some of the productivity features are
missing. As far as the install is concerned it just gets on with it and
installs with a minimum of fuss and quickly.  Then the windows 7
machines are running faster with less Memory and slower Processes that
my machine which has everything going.

Done a small amount of VFP development on one of them and I have had no
problems with that.  Haven't had time to check with the noted Vista bugs
to see if they are still there.

I have run the Beta and now the trial versions.  Expect to receive my
RTM versions sometime in August.

When I installed my Wife's I decided to install it on a new hard drive
just in case she didn't like it.  Then use a Program transfer program
supplied by LapLink to move the working programs across after first
uninstalling Office 2007 and others for 

Re: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.

2009-07-24 Thread KAM.covad
Full disclosure: I have not tried it. One of the support guys here is a 
techy-type and has installed each Win7 beta using vmware or something like 
that. He tries every version of our software on Win2000 -  win 7 and lets the 
programmers (like me) know when there is a problem. All our 'windows compiled' 
software is now in vfp9 sp2. To date, not even one problem has been reported 
with Win7. 

I (this is my personal opinion) refuse to use Vista (nickname crap/Win ME). 
Unfortunately we have many clients that got it on new hardware so we are FORCED 
to support that crap. We are looking forward to Win7 because it seems that it 
will have some parts that work, unlike Vista and ME. I still work on Win2000 
which I still insist is the last good operating system that M$ made. 

For me, the test is simple. Right-click on 'my computer'. Share the C: drive. 
If it is really shared, you have an operating system that is worth a sh.t. If 
it is not shared, then you have crap. Now, if M$ would have some kind of dialog 
that would walk you through the sharing, then I would be convinced. To date, 
sharing XP, 2003, Vista is hit or miss. When you 'share' the drive, you have 
done nothing. The drive is not shared. Not even close. Instead of doing the 
work I should be doing, I am fishing around on local policy, services, and 
other obscure menus and stupidily worded selections that change with every 
version. There is nothing consistent. Nothing is ever fixed. Things are just 
moved around and renamed to make you think that there is some kind of 
development going on at M$.

Right now, my development network has 2 Win2000, 2 XP and 1 Win2003 and a 
Crapsta laptop that is turned off. All computers can freely share all files 
This is required for development of software - except one of the XP computers 
cannot access the 2003 server and the 2003 server cannot access that XP. Both 
can 'see' each other in the network display. Neither can ping the other. When 
you click on the computer name, it says you don't have permission. All 
computers are logged in with the Administrator user so that is stupid and not 
true. There is no domain. Only an idiot would design an operating system like 
this. It is obvious that there is no quality control. No one tested this crap. 
It is easy to copy files between those two computers when you are on any of the 
other computers so there is no question about all computers being connected 
correctly. Microsoft designs are garbage. There is no quality. No thinking. 
There is no one in charge. The company is obviously run by lawyers a
 nd sales people. The company is obviously a monopoly and we will all be stuck 
with this crap for a long time. 

The latest stock market reports have a hint of the future. For the first time 
M$ operating system sales are down. Is anyone listening at M$? Has anyone 
bothered to read any of the blogs? Does anyone know that there might be a 
problem? No. they are all millionares and think that anyone who can't use their 
crap is an idiot. They know there is no other place to go. I am sure they say 
screw the dumb asses who can't use this crap.




- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hart 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.


Hi Matt
Been running Windows 7 on 3 machines here for about 6 months.  All are
never switched off.  I have had no trouble connecting any of the
peripherals here.  It just finds my Network Storage devices etc. I
thought it would stutter on a Konica Minolta Colour laser we use here
which is nearly 5 years old but they all just found it.  My wife runs my
accounting system (VFP 9 service pack 2) and doesn't see that much
difference in the way it displays the text box's etc. All three are 64
bit and before that they all ran XP 64 bit.  Just installed it on a
spare drive for my Laptop and again it just installed and ran.  A bit of
a learning curve especially hard for someone my age but we are getting
there with the help of the Wiz Kids who work for me.  I know that when I
go back to my XP machine which I use for development I am getting
increasingly frustrated because some of the productivity features are
missing. As far as the install is concerned it just gets on with it and
installs with a minimum of fuss and quickly.  Then the windows 7
machines are running faster with less Memory and slower Processes that
my machine which has everything going.

Done a small amount of VFP development on one of them and I have had no
problems with that.  Haven't had time to check with the noted Vista bugs
to see if they are still there.

I have run the Beta and now the trial versions.  Expect to receive my
RTM versions sometime in August.

When I installed my Wife's I decided to install it on a new hard drive
just in case she didn't like it.  Then use a Program transfer program
supplied by LapLink to move the working programs across after first
uninstalling Office 2007 and others for 

Re: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.

2009-07-24 Thread KAM.covad
Full disclosure: I have not tried it. One of the support guys here is a 
techy-type and has installed each Win7 beta using vmware or something like 
that. He tries every version of our software on Win2000 -  win 7 and lets the 
programmers (like me) know when there is a problem. All our 'windows compiled' 
software is now in vfp9 sp2. To date, not even one problem has been reported 
with Win7. 

I (this is my personal opinion) refuse to use Vista (nickname crap/Win ME). 
Unfortunately we have many clients that got it on new hardware so we are FORCED 
to support that crap. We are looking forward to Win7 because it seems that it 
will have some parts that work, unlike Vista and ME. I still work on Win2000 
which I still insist is the last good operating system that M$ made. 

For me, the test is simple. Right-click on 'my computer'. Share the C: drive. 
If it is really shared, you have an operating system that is worth a sh.t. If 
it is not shared, then you have crap. Now, if M$ would have some kind of dialog 
that would walk you through the sharing, then I would be convinced. To date, 
sharing XP, 2003, Vista is hit or miss. When you 'share' the drive, you have 
done nothing. The drive is not shared. Not even close. Instead of doing the 
work I should be doing, I am fishing around on local policy, services, and 
other obscure menus and stupidily worded selections that change with every 
version. There is nothing consistent. Nothing is ever fixed. Things are just 
moved around and renamed to make you think that there is some kind of 
development going on at M$.

Right now, my development network has 2 Win2000, 2 XP and 1 Win2003 and a 
Crapsta laptop that is turned off. All computers can freely share all files 
This is required for development of software - except one of the XP computers 
cannot access the 2003 server and the 2003 server cannot access that XP. Both 
can 'see' each other in the network display. Neither can ping the other. When 
you click on the computer name, it says you don't have permission. All 
computers are logged in with the Administrator user so that is stupid and not 
true. There is no domain. Only an idiot would design an operating system like 
this. It is obvious that there is no quality control. No one tested this crap. 
It is easy to copy files between those two computers when you are on any of the 
other computers so there is no question about all computers being connected 
correctly. Microsoft designs are garbage. There is no quality. No thinking. 
There is no one in charge. The company is obviously run by lawyers a
 nd sales people. The company is obviously a monopoly and we will all be stuck 
with this crap for a long time. 

The latest stock market reports have a hint of the future. For the first time 
M$ operating system sales are down. Is anyone listening at M$? Has anyone 
bothered to read any of the blogs? Does anyone know that there might be a 
problem? No. they are all millionares and think that anyone who can't use their 
crap is an idiot. They know there is no other place to go. I am sure they say 
screw the dumb asses who can't use this crap.




- Original Message - 
From: Peter Hart 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Advice about going 64-bit Win 7 OS.


Hi Matt
Been running Windows 7 on 3 machines here for about 6 months.  All are
never switched off.  I have had no trouble connecting any of the
peripherals here.  It just finds my Network Storage devices etc. I
thought it would stutter on a Konica Minolta Colour laser we use here
which is nearly 5 years old but they all just found it.  My wife runs my
accounting system (VFP 9 service pack 2) and doesn't see that much
difference in the way it displays the text box's etc. All three are 64
bit and before that they all ran XP 64 bit.  Just installed it on a
spare drive for my Laptop and again it just installed and ran.  A bit of
a learning curve especially hard for someone my age but we are getting
there with the help of the Wiz Kids who work for me.  I know that when I
go back to my XP machine which I use for development I am getting
increasingly frustrated because some of the productivity features are
missing. As far as the install is concerned it just gets on with it and
installs with a minimum of fuss and quickly.  Then the windows 7
machines are running faster with less Memory and slower Processes that
my machine which has everything going.

Done a small amount of VFP development on one of them and I have had no
problems with that.  Haven't had time to check with the noted Vista bugs
to see if they are still there.

I have run the Beta and now the trial versions.  Expect to receive my
RTM versions sometime in August.

When I installed my Wife's I decided to install it on a new hard drive
just in case she didn't like it.  Then use a Program transfer program
supplied by LapLink to move the working programs across after first
uninstalling Office 2007 and others for 

VFP9 SP2 need SQL guru help

2009-07-20 Thread KAM.covad
I have a table with 3 fields and about 20,000 records. 

The fields are cPerson C(9), cParent C(9), nBalance N(10,2). The cPerson field 
has a candidate index (unique). If this is a parent record, the cPerson is the 
same as cParent, otherwise it is a child record. 

To get all the parents with balance less than $100, I can:
Select * from table where cPerson = cParent and nBalance  100

Now I need all the children of those parents in the same cursor

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Re: VFP9 SP2 need SQL guru help

2009-07-20 Thread KAM.covad
There is only one table. The parent and child records are in the same table. 
The cParent field of the child record points to the parent record. 

- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Dunkeld 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP2 need SQL guru help


how about:

select *
from table parent
join table child
on parent.cPerson = child.cParent
where parent.cPerson != parent.cParent
and nBalance  100

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:44 PM,
KAM.covada_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I have a table with 3 fields and about 20,000 records.

 The fields are cPerson C(9), cParent C(9), nBalance N(10,2). The cPerson 
 field has a candidate index (unique). If this is a parent record, the cPerson 
 is the same as cParent, otherwise it is a child record.

 To get all the parents with balance less than $100, I can:
 Select * from table where cPerson = cParent and nBalance  100

 Now I need all the children of those parents in the same cursor

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Re: How to avoid two instances

2009-07-15 Thread KAM.covad
Try putting a DBC in the user temp directory named something like TempDBC and 
always select it before creating/running your views. 

- Original Message - 
From: Eurico Chagas Filho 
To: 'ProFox Email List' 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:06 AM
Subject: RE: How to avoid two instances


Hi Sytze

Yeah, with them you can have only one .exe(instance) executing in the same
desktop. But, I needed to allow more than one if they were using diferent
data, DBCs.
The reason is because I use local views that are not written to the DBC, 
so they have a signature like _1234GD, whatever. If they open two instances
and are using the same form, the views are written to the DBC somehow. 
It gets messy.

E.



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Re: [NF] for all of you who hated/loved Office 2007 2010 isout in preview mode

2009-07-15 Thread KAM.covad
There is this car named 'vista' that you can rent at the airport. They put the 
gas cap just inside the left rear door. That way you will think the car has 
some great new feature and you will buy one when you get back home. Another 
great feature is the volume control on the radio is behind the spare tire which 
is on top of the front bumper on the right side. I love that car. You see, I 
really things to change. I was one of the first to jump from Widows 98 to 
Windows ME - remember that one? I got to use it before they did any quality 
control and realized that it had no working parts and quickly diverted some of 
the marketing budget to turn out Windows 2000 which actually worked.


- Original Message - 
From: Gene Wirchenko 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] for all of you who hated/loved Office 2007 2010 isout in 
preview mode


At 12:09 2009-07-15, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Gene Wirchenkoge...@ocis.net wrote:
  At 06:45 2009-07-15, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  [snip]
 
 It is amazing how the old farts of the world had the real hard time
 with this change but the rest of the world just got over it quickly
 and found it better and easier to ORGANIZE when working.
 
   Think about the dynamics, and you might not find it so
  amazing.  We old farts tend to use our systems more heavily.  We have
  more invested in the way that was and are not too keen to throw it
  away for supposed gains that might not exist.  Changes do not affect
  everyone equally.  Some things that make things easier for some make
  it tougher for others.  One reason for that is that others tend to be
  the smaller group.  We old farts tend to be others.
---

I would gather that you have a real hard time if you rent a car.

  Why would you think something that silly?

Learning where the lights are located and how to work the sound system
must be very taxing for you.

  I do rent cars.  Yes, there is an adaptation period.  I used to 
get caught short at gas stations, because I would forget to check 
which side the gascap was on.  I would not mind that being 
standardised to one side.

  Fortunately, it is not much of a problem, because many of these 
items are in the same place.  It is not as if I have to look very 
hard for the steering wheel.  OTOH, if the steering control could be 
just about anywhere and maybe not be a wheel but, for example, two 
sticks (one to control each side), I would protest.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko



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Re: [NF] Backup strategy

2009-07-13 Thread KAM.covad
We use Acronis to image our critical computers. It is great and allows an easy 
restore of individual files, folders or even the entire system with the boot 
sector in case of a total failure. The only problem is that if you restore to a 
completely different computer with totally different drivers (like restoring an 
Intel system to an AMD system) it will not boot. You won't lose any files, but 
like Christof said, you are up the creek if you don't have your install 
software, license, product keys, etc because you will need to reinstall all the 
applications. I have wondered if I could use add/delete programs to uninstall 
the drivers before making an image if that would solve the problem, but I have 
not gotten around to testing that. pressing F8 and using safe and/or vga boot 
does not work, at least it has failed the 2 times we tried. If Microsoft would 
'modularize' the os, it would be possible to backup without the drivers, but I 
guess that is asking too much.


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Cushing 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [NF] Backup strategy


Christof Wollenhaupt wrote:
 As far as I can see this, your scheme will only protect you against hardware
 failures. It won't help if your office is broken into or if the entire
 building burns down. In this case you absolutely need your software install
 packages to get started. Project is important, but without the software and
 the licenses you can't use them.
   
We have most of our servers imaged somewhere else with another machine 
on another site so we can be up and running quickly.  All the VM stuff 
is easy to get going as well.
 This aside the question is when do you do the backup? Is it quick enough to
 be done during the lunch break? Then you could plug in the USB stick, go to
 lunch and put the stick into your pocket. If it runs longer than that it's
 unlikely that someone will wait in the evening for the backup to complete,
 especially when the performance degrades. So you would need to pick it up in
 the morning and be always two days behind with the backup.

   

The backup we are talking about is done every night.  Our main database 
apps are zipped up along with other things like mail zips and we burn 
the zip files onto DVD next day.  At the moment we back these files onto 
a REV drive and have a large backup window to do it.  At lunch an app 
runs to make a lunchtime backup of some fox data.  It just does a COPY 
TO to another location.  We started doing this when the main stock DBF 
went west at about 5:50 pm so leaving us to either go to the previous 
day's data or use that one file from the previous day and just apply the 
transactions to it.

Thanks,

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Re: PEM Editor 4 released...

2009-07-06 Thread KAM.covad
Those videos are extremely slow, probably because a lot of people are 
downloading them. Can you put them on youtube?

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Slay 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:00 AM
Subject: PEM Editor 4 released...


PEM Editor Version 4 was released on 2009/07/05 as part of the VFPx Project
on CodePlex.com.

This is a powerful VFP tool that can replace the Properties window, Edit
Property/Method, New Property, New Method, the Document View window, and has
many other powerful features. It's hard to describe the myriad things this
tool will do, so please check out the site and watch the videos. You'll find
that PEM Editor will bring a new level of convenience and efficiency to your
development. 

(Supports VFP8 and VFP9)

You can see screenshots, read about the features, and watch the new video
series here:

http://vfpx.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=PEM%20Editor 




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Re: VFP9 SP1/SP2 error with VFP9R.DLL

2009-07-04 Thread KAM.covad
That file is not in any of the hotfix downloads. 

The one I am using is: 

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VFP\VFP9RENU.DLL   9.0.00.5721


- Original Message - 
From: Christof Wollenhaupt 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: RE: VFP9 SP1/SP2 error with VFP9R.DLL


You also need the updated VFP9RENU.DLL... If SP1 is the only version that
works for you, it looks like you got the SP1 version of the NEU file.

-- 
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VFP9 SP1/SP2 error with VFP9R.DLL

2009-07-03 Thread KAM.covad
Today I updated to SP2 and the 3rd hotfix with the new vfp9r.dll and vfp9t.dll 
and vfp9runtime.msm

I get those c05 errors with the new vfp9r.dll. The errors go away if I use 
the SP1 version of vfp9r.dll dated 11/4/2005. This is only with the runtime 
version. I tried the file from the 1st and 2nd hotfix and they give the c05 
errors also.

The development environment seems to run fine with the new file. 

Anyone else have this problem or know a workaround? Any problem with delivering 
the old vfp9r.dll to clients?

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Re: How can you get a return code from VPF executable

2009-07-02 Thread KAM.covad
Either that or just write something to a file and then check it after your EXE 
ends.


- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Dunkeld 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: How can you get a return code from VPF executable


Have a look at http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ExitCode - essentially
you need to call the WIn32API function ExitProcess with your return
code (which must be an integer) to end your VFP program.

Regards

--stuart

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jean Haidarjhhai...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 we have an VFP executable that return either .T. if it run without errors and 
 return .F. in case of errors

 we have used tried many ways to check its return code.

 from VFP:

 strExe = c:\batch_process\TEST.exe DATE()-35 DATE()
 cretcode = loshell.Run(strExe,1,.t.)


 the cretcode is always returning 0 whether or not the VFP exe produce an 
 error or NOT.
 we are inserting the error info into a table when TEST.Exe produce an error


 we also tried this code from VB.NET

 Dim
 myProcess.EnableRaisingEvents = myProcess AsProcess = 
 NewProcess()TruemyProcess.StartInfo.FileName = 
 C:\Jean_dev\Batch_process\TEST.exe' ArgumentsmyProcess.StartInfo.Arguments 
 =  date()-35 date() myProcess.StartInfo.RedirectStandardOutput = 
 TruemyProcess.StartInfo.UseShellExecute = FalsemyProcess.Start()' need to 
 wait until it is finishedDoWhilemyProcess.HasExited = False Dimlctime = 
 NowLoopDimnexitcode = myProcess.ExitCodeDimoutput AsString= 
 myProcess.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd()


 nexitcode is always 0 and output is a blank string


 we are want to avoid writing a DLL and registering on the Server.


 Jean Haidar
 jhhai...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: How can you get a return code from VPF executable

2009-07-02 Thread KAM.covad
Either that or just write something to a file and then check it after your EXE 
ends.


- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Dunkeld 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: How can you get a return code from VPF executable


Have a look at http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ExitCode - essentially
you need to call the WIn32API function ExitProcess with your return
code (which must be an integer) to end your VFP program.

Regards

--stuart

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Jean Haidarjhhai...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 we have an VFP executable that return either .T. if it run without errors and 
 return .F. in case of errors

 we have used tried many ways to check its return code.

 from VFP:

 strExe = c:\batch_process\TEST.exe DATE()-35 DATE()
 cretcode = loshell.Run(strExe,1,.t.)


 the cretcode is always returning 0 whether or not the VFP exe produce an 
 error or NOT.
 we are inserting the error info into a table when TEST.Exe produce an error


 we also tried this code from VB.NET

 Dim
 myProcess.EnableRaisingEvents = myProcess AsProcess = 
 NewProcess()TruemyProcess.StartInfo.FileName = 
 C:\Jean_dev\Batch_process\TEST.exe' ArgumentsmyProcess.StartInfo.Arguments 
 =  date()-35 date() myProcess.StartInfo.RedirectStandardOutput = 
 TruemyProcess.StartInfo.UseShellExecute = FalsemyProcess.Start()' need to 
 wait until it is finishedDoWhilemyProcess.HasExited = False Dimlctime = 
 NowLoopDimnexitcode = myProcess.ExitCodeDimoutput AsString= 
 myProcess.StandardOutput.ReadToEnd()


 nexitcode is always 0 and output is a blank string


 we are want to avoid writing a DLL and registering on the Server.


 Jean Haidar
 jhhai...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: VFP9: Runtime

2009-06-23 Thread KAM.covad
This is true. Years ago with FoxproDos we experimented with having the 
libraries and our EXE on the local workstation and found that it made very 
little or no performance difference and was not worth the support effort. We 
always install the dll  ocx with our EXE and it has worked with every fox 
version through vfp9 sp1. 

You do need to register many of the dll and ocx on every local machine, but 
they can be located on the server. 

We find the single most important factor in performance with vfp (and our 
program of course) is the amount of memory you have. There are a lot of rumors 
out there about how much memory you can have on this or that os. We put 4 gb on 
xp sp2 and we find that it will show at least 3.35 gb and so it is worth the 
cost if you need performance. Fox is a memory hog, so you may realize decreased 
performance on the startup because it is loading programs, however, once your 
program is running, we find the performance is much improved. We have done a 
lot of tests (with our software only) over the years.


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Schummer 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: VFP9: Runtime


 The runtimes have to be installed on the client machine(s).

False. While they can be installed on the workstation and the performance is
marginally better, they can be installed on the server in the app folder.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
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Re: VFP9 SP1 vs VFP9 SP2 problems?

2009-06-05 Thread KAM.covad
I read Rick's email. I was not aware that there is a general agreement that the 
problems are all worked out with sp2.  

We now have a very stable application installed in thousands of separate small 
offices. We do not want to do anything to upset that. We are just now rolling 
out some web services applications integrated with our existing software. I 
don't know if sp2 would have any advantage for us.


- Original Message - 
From: Cathy Pountney 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: VFP9 SP1 vs VFP9 SP2 problems?


Just curious as to why you wouldn't upgrade to SP2. Now that a hotfix is
available for the report data group, there isn't any reason to NOT upgrade
to SP2 and take advantage of all the bug fixes AND new features that are
available.

Cathy

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On
 Behalf Of KAM.covad
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 5:27 PM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: VFP9 SP1 vs VFP9 SP2 problems?
 
 I sent our software (VFP9 SP1) to a client who has their own application
(VFP9
 SP2). When they installed our application, theirs stopped working. When
they
 uninstalled our application, theirs started working. Does anyone know if
these
 are incompatible? We do not have any plans to install SP2 at this time
 
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VFP9 SP1 vs VFP9 SP2 problems?

2009-06-03 Thread KAM.covad
I sent our software (VFP9 SP1) to a client who has their own application (VFP9 
SP2). When they installed our application, theirs stopped working. When they 
uninstalled our application, theirs started working. Does anyone know if these 
are incompatible? We do not have any plans to install SP2 at this time

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VFP9 SP1 I need to install web services on XP SP2 IIS 5.1

2009-05-27 Thread KAM.covad
I am trying to get that sample web services code in the help file to work. I am 
fairly sure I did everything correctly because it works when I test it 
'manually. Here is the error I get: I have tried this on Win2003 server and XP 
SP2 and I get the same error.

Error: 1429 - OLE IDispatch exception code 0 from Connector: 
Connector:Connection time out. HRESULT=0x800A1527 - Client:An unanticipated 
error occurred during the processing of this request. HRESULT=0x800A1527 - 
Client:Sending the Soap message failed or no recognizable response was received 
HRESULT=0x800A1527 - Client:Unspecified client error. HRESULT=0x800A1527..
Connector:Connection time out. HRESULT=0x800A1527 - Client:An unanticipated 
error occurred during the processing of this request. HRESULT=0x800A1527 - 
Client:Sending the Soap message failed or no recognizable response was received 
HRESULT=0x800A1527 - Client:Unspecified client error. HRESULT=0x800A1527

Anyone ever get this to work? Here is my code with my test at the top:

*** remove the code below before building the com object
CLEAR
INKEY(1)
loCustomer = Createobject(ShowCustomers)
lcCustomer = loCustomer.CustomersInGermany()
?lcCustomer
*** remove the code above before building the com object

Define Class ShowCustomers As Session OlePublic
   Procedure CustomersInGermany As String
  Local loXMLAdapter As Xmladapter
  Local lcXMLCustomers As String

  loXMLAdapter = Createobject(XMLAdapter)
  Open Database C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9\ ;
 + Samples\Northwind\northwind.dbc
  Use customers
  Select * ;
 FROM customers ;
 WHERE country Like Germany% ;
 INTO Cursor curCustomers
  loXMLAdapter.AddTableSchema(curCustomers)
  loXMLAdapter.UTF8Encoded = .T.
  loXMLAdapter.ToXML(lcXMLCustomers)

  Close Tables All
  Close Databases All

  Return lcXMLCustomers
   Endproc
Enddefine

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Re: [NF] Seeking Suggestions for backup DVD storage...

2009-05-23 Thread KAM.covad
We have been getting 1.5 TB Seagate drives at Directron lately. We have already 
had 1 failure out of 8 in about 3 months. Luckily, we make multiple copies 
every night. 

We are thinking about making a Raid5 system with FreeNAS using 4 1.5 TB drives. 
 Does anyone have experience with this?


- Original Message - 
From: Alan Bourke 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Seeking Suggestions for backup DVD storage...




On Sat, 23 May 2009 08:21 -0500, Jerry Foote je...@footegroup.com
wrote:
 With the cost of large external drives, I have copied all of my backup's
 to
 a external drive, I now have instant access and complete portability with
 the discs off site

Yep, a couple of external 1TB drives would not be that much these days.
-- 
  Alan Bourke
  alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm


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VFP9 SP1 - problems with the vfpencryption.fll version 71?

2009-05-15 Thread KAM.covad
I was using vfpencryption.fll, encrypt and decrypt with no problem. I upgraded 
to vfpencryption 71 and now I get an API error on XP SP2 with the DECRYPT 
function

Anyone else using vfpencryption.fll

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Re: VFP9 SP1 - problems with the vfpencryption.fll version 71?

2009-05-15 Thread KAM.covad
Here is my test after installing the correct dlls and getting no errors: What 
am I doing wrong with the 7.1 and 8.0 versions?

Clear
* vfpencryption.fll original version   6kb
lcEncryptionLibrary = Locfile(vfpencryptionSSI.FLL,FLL)
If !Empty(lcEncryptionLibrary)
   SET LIBRARY TO
   Set Library To (lcEncryptionLibrary)
Else
   Messagebox(Cannot find the file: vfpencryptionSSI.fll)
   Quit
Endif

lcTestEncrypt = alltrim(Encrypt(Hello World!, My_SeCrEt_KeY))
? lcTestEncrypt
lcTestDecrypt = decrypt(lcTestEncrypt,My_SeCrEt_KeY)
? lcTestDecryptHello World!



* vfpencryption.fll version 7.1  144kb
lcEncryptionLibrary = Locfile(vfpencryption71.FLL,FLL)
If !Empty(lcEncryptionLibrary)
   SET LIBRARY TO
   Set Library To (lcEncryptionLibrary)
Else
   Messagebox(Cannot find the file: vfpencryption71.fll)
   Quit
Endif
lcTestEncrypt = alltrim(Encrypt(Hello World!, My_SeCrEt_KeY))
? lcTestEncrypt
lcTestDecrypt = decrypt(lcTestEncrypt,My_SeCrEt_KeY)
? lcTestDecrypt^Ó-Éèònþ?fíÞ1fKz£?ôeÝÜìµ-



* vfpencryption.fll version 8.0120kb
lcEncryptionLibrary = Locfile(vfpencryption80.FLL,FLL)
If !Empty(lcEncryptionLibrary)
   SET LIBRARY TO
   Set Library To (lcEncryptionLibrary)
Else
   Messagebox(Cannot find the file: vfpencryption80.fll)
   Quit
Endif

lcTestEncrypt = alltrim(Encrypt(Hello World!, My_SeCrEt_KeY))
? lcTestEncrypt
lcTestDecrypt = decrypt(lcTestEncrypt,My_SeCrEt_KeY)
? lcTestDecryptÈ
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- Original Message - 
From: Allen 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: RE: VFP9 SP1 - problems with the vfpencryption.fll version 71?


71 is a sideways not an upgrade. I use 71 because v8.0 runtimes are a right
royal pain. What error are you getting. You will need the 71 runtimes. VFP
uses one but there is another. Cant think of the name but there is a write
up on sweatpotato.
Allen 

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From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf Of KAM.covad
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:35 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: VFP9 SP1 - problems with the vfpencryption.fll version 71?

I was using vfpencryption.fll, encrypt and decrypt with no problem. I
upgraded to vfpencryption 71 and now I get an API error on XP SP2 with the
DECRYPT function

Anyone else using vfpencryption.fll


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Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64

2009-05-09 Thread KAM.covad
Thanks, 

Regarding base64, strconv() does not give the answer I need. I was given this 
reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_authentication_scheme
I was able to duplicate their result by using a batch file to run openssl. It 
is not quite as clean as I would like, but it works fine and is easy.

The only thing left is UTF-16.


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Stirling 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64


Kam

You can get the SHA1 done via Craig Boyd's vfpencryption,.fll
http://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/SPSBlog/2007/08/06/VFPEncryptionUpdate.aspx

Function HASH()
Signature: Hash(cStringtoHash[, nHashType])
Parameters:
cStringtoHash - A plain text string you wish to have hashed
nHashType - The type of hash function to generate. There are currently 7 
different hash functions supported

1 = SHA1 (a.k.a SHA160)
2 = SHA256
3 = SHA384
4 = SHA512 *Default
5 = MD5
6 = RIPEMD128
7 = RIPEMD256

SET LIBRARY TO vfpencryption71.fll ADDITIVE
tempText =Hello World +CHR(13) +  was Jane's quote
? (Hash(tempText,1)
? STRCONV(Hash(tempText,1),13)

I also think you need to have/download 'msvcp71.dll'

Andrew Stirling
01250 874580
http://www.calcpay.co.uk
HMRC Accredited UK payroll program


KAM.covad wrote:
 You could, but it has too many years since I did any assembler or C. I have 
 20+ years in VFP so I am going to do everything there if I can. I use the 
 windows API alot so will go that way if possible.
 
 STRCONV will do the base64 (thanks to Tracy). The VFP manual for XML web 
 services talks about UTF-16 (making the double bytes that I need in case the 
 password has characters that are not plain text). I still don't know about 
 the SHA1.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Stephen Russell 
 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:38 PM
 Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64
 
 
 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, KAM.covad
 a_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I need to encode a password:
 1. convert to upper case (yes, I know how to do this)
 2. Unicode it in little endian UTF16
 3. SHA1 it
 4. base64 encode it

 Here is an example I was given, but I have never used those methods and I do 
 not believe they are in VFP

 The encoding process for password is: first convert to uppercase, then 
 Unicode it in littleendian
 UTF16,
 then SHA1 it,
 then base64 encode it.
 UnicodeEncoding encoding = new UnicodeEncoding();
 hashBytes = encoding.GetBytes(password.ToUpper().Trim());
 SHA1 sha1 = new SHA1CryptoServiceProvider();
 byte[] cryptPassword = sha1.ComputeHash(hashBytes);
 String pwd= Convert.ToBase64String(cryptPassword);
 ---
 
 That is straight up C#.
 
 You could make a dll to do that and register it.
 You pass in string and it returns string back.
 
 

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Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64

2009-05-09 Thread KAM.covad
Thanks. That saves me the trouble of using openssl

You are correct. I was changing it to upper case like the specs, however for 
that example, they did not make it upper case. 



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From: Andrew Stirling 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64


Kam
Re the example
temp = Aladdin:open sesame
? STRCONV(temp,13)
gives:
QWxhZGRpbjpvcGVuIHNlc2FtZQ==

is that not what you want?

Andrew Stirling
01250 874580
http://www.calcpay.co.uk
HMRC Accredited UK payroll program


KAM.covad wrote:
 Thanks, 
 
 Regarding base64, strconv() does not give the answer I need. I was given this 
 reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_authentication_scheme
 I was able to duplicate their result by using a batch file to run openssl. It 
 is not quite as clean as I would like, but it works fine and is easy.
 
 The only thing left is UTF-16.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andrew Stirling 
 To: profox@leafe.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:05 AM
 Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64
 
 
 Kam
 
 You can get the SHA1 done via Craig Boyd's vfpencryption,.fll
 http://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/SPSBlog/2007/08/06/VFPEncryptionUpdate.aspx
 
 Function HASH()
 Signature: Hash(cStringtoHash[, nHashType])
 Parameters:
 cStringtoHash - A plain text string you wish to have hashed
 nHashType - The type of hash function to generate. There are currently 7 
 different hash functions supported
 
 1 = SHA1 (a.k.a SHA160)
 2 = SHA256
 3 = SHA384
 4 = SHA512 *Default
 5 = MD5
 6 = RIPEMD128
 7 = RIPEMD256
 
 SET LIBRARY TO vfpencryption71.fll ADDITIVE
 tempText =Hello World +CHR(13) +  was Jane's quote
 ? (Hash(tempText,1)
 ? STRCONV(Hash(tempText,1),13)
 
 I also think you need to have/download 'msvcp71.dll'
 
 Andrew Stirling
 01250 874580
 http://www.calcpay.co.uk
 HMRC Accredited UK payroll program
 
 
 KAM.covad wrote:
 You could, but it has too many years since I did any assembler or C. I have 
 20+ years in VFP so I am going to do everything there if I can. I use the 
 windows API alot so will go that way if possible.

 STRCONV will do the base64 (thanks to Tracy). The VFP manual for XML web 
 services talks about UTF-16 (making the double bytes that I need in case the 
 password has characters that are not plain text). I still don't know about 
 the SHA1.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Stephen Russell 
 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:38 PM
 Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64


 On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, KAM.covad
 a_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I need to encode a password:
 1. convert to upper case (yes, I know how to do this)
 2. Unicode it in little endian UTF16
 3. SHA1 it
 4. base64 encode it

 Here is an example I was given, but I have never used those methods and I 
 do not believe they are in VFP

 The encoding process for password is: first convert to uppercase, then 
 Unicode it in littleendian
 UTF16,
 then SHA1 it,
 then base64 encode it.
 UnicodeEncoding encoding = new UnicodeEncoding();
 hashBytes = encoding.GetBytes(password.ToUpper().Trim());
 SHA1 sha1 = new SHA1CryptoServiceProvider();
 byte[] cryptPassword = sha1.ComputeHash(hashBytes);
 String pwd= Convert.ToBase64String(cryptPassword);
 ---

 That is straight up C#.

 You could make a dll to do that and register it.
 You pass in string and it returns string back.


 
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VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64

2009-05-08 Thread KAM.covad
I need to encode a password:
1. convert to upper case (yes, I know how to do this)
2. Unicode it in little endian UTF16
3. SHA1 it
4. base64 encode it

Here is an example I was given, but I have never used those methods and I do 
not believe they are in VFP

The encoding process for password is: first convert to uppercase, then Unicode 
it in littleendian
UTF16,
then SHA1 it,
then base64 encode it. 
UnicodeEncoding encoding = new UnicodeEncoding();
hashBytes = encoding.GetBytes(password.ToUpper().Trim());
SHA1 sha1 = new SHA1CryptoServiceProvider();
byte[] cryptPassword = sha1.ComputeHash(hashBytes);
String pwd= Convert.ToBase64String(cryptPassword);

Anyone know where to start looking? I searched google but could not find 
anything that could easily be converted to vfp code.

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Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64

2009-05-08 Thread KAM.covad
You could, but it has too many years since I did any assembler or C. I have 20+ 
years in VFP so I am going to do everything there if I can. I use the windows 
API alot so will go that way if possible.

STRCONV will do the base64 (thanks to Tracy). The VFP manual for XML web 
services talks about UTF-16 (making the double bytes that I need in case the 
password has characters that are not plain text). I still don't know about the 
SHA1.



- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Russell 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 encoding little endian UTF 16, SHA1, base64


On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, KAM.covad
a_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I need to encode a password:
 1. convert to upper case (yes, I know how to do this)
 2. Unicode it in little endian UTF16
 3. SHA1 it
 4. base64 encode it

 Here is an example I was given, but I have never used those methods and I do 
 not believe they are in VFP

 The encoding process for password is: first convert to uppercase, then 
 Unicode it in littleendian
 UTF16,
 then SHA1 it,
 then base64 encode it.
 UnicodeEncoding encoding = new UnicodeEncoding();
 hashBytes = encoding.GetBytes(password.ToUpper().Trim());
 SHA1 sha1 = new SHA1CryptoServiceProvider();
 byte[] cryptPassword = sha1.ComputeHash(hashBytes);
 String pwd= Convert.ToBase64String(cryptPassword);
---

That is straight up C#.

You could make a dll to do that and register it.
You pass in string and it returns string back.


-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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VFP9 SP1 does anyone have a 'blog'/support type list for users written in vfp?

2009-05-05 Thread KAM.covad
We would like to make a support listing for our users so they can 'text' to our 
support group and other users, but we want to limit it to licensed users.

Any ideas?

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VFP9 SP1 We have apache2 server on windows. Need to allow https posting and have information accessed by vfp

2009-05-05 Thread KAM.covad
Any ideas?



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[NF] MySQL PostgreSQL was Joke (yes, it's computer-related!

2009-04-30 Thread KAM.covad
What we need is an easy migration to PostgreSQL from VFP. Unattended 
installation from CD and a replacement for INSERT INTO FROM NAME, GATHER, etc

Then it would be easier to migrate to something like Python if necessary some 
day.

*
Below is Joshua Drake's take on Oracle purchasing Sun:
I see a large possibility of mass migration from MySQL by non web applications. 

The obvious choice is PostgreSQL because of  the BSD license and the maturity 
of the software.

In conclusion I expect that MySQL in two years likely won't exist except 
on the most tertiary level. Most new projects will be developed in 
either PostgreSQL, Firebird or one of the forks (MariaDB, Drizzle).

http://planet.postgresql.org/
http://tinyurl.com/c2tqug
http://tinyurl.com/c2dwzq


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Re: VFP8: Record Lock

2009-04-24 Thread KAM.covad
Same here. We are using VFP9 SP1. 


- Original Message - 
From: Frank Cazabon 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: VFP8: Record Lock


Hi Jack,

Jack Skelley wrote:
 I have read the help screens for a multiuser app and still not able not allow 
 an edit on the second instance of the app.
 Can someone point me to where I read about how to do this?
   
You could look at setting the buffering of the table to 4 
(pessimistic).  Check the help on CURSORSETPROP().

FWIW I never lock a record any more.  I always use optimistic table 
buffering.

-- 

Frank.

Frank Cazabon
Samaan Systems Ltd. - Developing Solutions
www.SamaanSystems.com/


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VFP9 SP1 - need to create a statement with the report writer - multiple trx for a single client on one page.

2009-04-23 Thread KAM.covad
I need to create a statement using the report writer. I have created a lot of 
documents but none with multiple transactions on a page for each client. is 
there an example of an invoice/statement/report in the VFP samples that anyone 
would recommend?

Also, we have several clients who want custom reports. Our program gives the 
client full access to all tables, but unfortunately it requires the ability to 
program in vfp. Is anyone interested in doing some projects like this? It would 
probably be a quick low cost project but could lead into other things.

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[OT] Any comments regarding Oracle buying Sun?

2009-04-21 Thread KAM.covad
We use open office here and we like it. I hope updates continue.

We don't use MySQL, but I think a lot of people on this list do. Any comments?

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[NF] Re: When will I learn? try open office

2009-04-14 Thread KAM.covad
When we run into issues like this with the ever changing m$ garbage we try to 
use open office. We find that it will do the conversion in most cases. 


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Skelley 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: When will I learn?


Kenneth:
I have been burned with a similar stuff so you are not alone and I feel your 
pain.
I did an automation to Word 2000 out of our scouting system written VFP 6. 
Works great in Word 2000. Does not work well with Word 2007 on the new boxes 
and I simply don't have the time or energy to fix it to make it look 'perfect'. 
It is a report that takes the FRX and makes is a DOC file.
We have a M$ fellow that is a member of a cigar group I belong to and I bend 
his ear very hard every chance I get. I think he doesn't like to see me on most 
days...
Similar issues with the CDO email constructs with the latest rollups to 
Exchange 2007. The 2007 part of any M$ app will cause us Fox folks to lose more 
pounds of hair that we all can not afford to lose (at least on my part - no pun 
intended!).
Regards,

Jack Skelley



From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Kenneth Kixmoeller [ken.kixmoel...@information-architecture.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:29 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: When will I learn?

 Warning! Warning!! Microsoft rant ahead! 
 All who rail about M$ bashing delete this message NOW! 
 You have been warned. 

It happened again.

Last year, I got a nice little data conversion project which fits one
of my other specialties: publishing with InDesign. So I thunk: what
the heck, just a bunch of text manipulation, why not use the Fox? I
can knock this out fast, Fox will do it well, the client is married
to M$, so no cross-platform issues, etc.

So I do it. Had a bit of problem with the XML, none of the native
tools seemed to like the files, and hand-parsing it would blow the
budget out of the water. No schema available. So I thought: their Web
firm is pure M$ tools, so I wonder if I can expedite the conversion
with a little two-step?

I open the XML in Excel, and it converts absolutely flawlessly. Cool.
Quick little automation script, save the converted data as a DBF, and
on with the conversion to InDesign

Worked great. Fast. My InDesign skills saved the client *lots* of
design time. Client was pleased. All was right with the world.

Fast forward one year -- this is an annual process. (Hear the ominous
music?) The client runs my conversion utility. It's broken. %^%*
She reports a really weird-sounding error, so I ask her to send me a
screen shot of it. She does so in a Word document, and I see the DOCX
extension. I get this sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Yes,
they had been persuaded to upgrade to Orifice 2007.

Fast forward: Excel 2007 no longer will create a DBF.

Now I know I can save it as a CSV and append it into existing
structures. Or maybe I can do something better with the XML bypassing
the automation. Whatever. I can still make it work. But the point is
that M$ changed the rules again. Makes me look like an idiot, and
will cost my client unnecessary $$.

Ken

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Re: [NF] Yearly support fees vs. hourly fees

2009-04-13 Thread KAM.covad
I think this is a great idea if it works for you and your clients will pay. 

If you are located in California, there is one thing to be aware of. If you 
require a monthly/yearly/whatever payment, it is considered to be a sale and is 
taxable. If your support is optional then it is labor and not taxable as long 
as it is handled by phone/email/etc. This could be a major consideration 
because the State will not go to your client to get any back taxes. We have 
been through two audits and had to deal with this issue. Another thing to 
consider is that if you send the client anything tangible (floppy disk, cd, 
dvd, paper report, etc) then your support is taxable for that month (if you 
bill monthly). If your client downloads updates and reports, etc then it is not 
taxable. I am not a lawyer, just someone who has been through some terrible 
sales tax audits. One lasted over 6 months.



- Original Message - 
From: Gil Hale RR 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Yearly support fees vs. hourly fees


I do not sell annual or other maintenance plans, and avoid that kind of
terminology like the plague.  It makes it too easy for folks to unplug a
nice revenue stream.  I do not sell my software solutions either.  I provide
maintenance (support) on a No Additional Charge basis!  What the hell?
Read on...

I license my software solutions with an initial setup/config fee which is
minimal - really minimal.  Sometimes no initial fees at all.  Then I charge
a reasonable monthly license fee, where over the course of a few years I
recoup what I would have gained with an initial full fee for a single pay
billing.  But, for the remaining months/years I keep receiving these monthly
payments for a client having the right to keep using my software, and
gaining income benefit far in excess of its monthly license fee.  I also
provide support/maintenance on a No Additional Charge basis for clients
paying me a monthly recurring fee.  I can come in very inexpensively for my
clients with respect to how their cash flow gets hit, and in the longer run
I end up generating far more revenue from my offerings.  For instance, I
have one client who has been paying me $1,000 per month for 43 dealerships
to use my software (very inexpensive on a per store basis).  They have been
with me since 2001, just about 8 years, 96 months.  Do the math.  I could
never have charged them that kind of money for that solution, despite it
being well worth the investment.  This kind of arrangement makes my software
cost effective on both a monthly cash flow and a return on investment basis
for my clients.  And it gives me monthly incentive to keep doing the best
possible job I can for them.  When they request upgrades or consulting I
handle those items on a no additional charge basis, whether it is directly
related to my solution or not.  For all the months I have had to do nothing
for the income as they keep on using it internally with their own personnel,
a few weeks here and there for special projects is fine with me g.  The
name of the game now-a-days, more than ever before, is client retention and
revenue stream protection.  This is how I am accomplishing it, providing
excellent solutions for beyond reasonable pricing, and not trying to nickel
and dime a client at every turn.  I get my recurring revenue stream from
multiple clients, they get my attention whenever they need anything extra -
plus make and/or save money using my software in excess of the revenue they
provide me.  If they begin to clip services in a tough economy I am betting
I will be the last vendor standing as I not only make them money, I ask for
relatively little in return.  But when I sum the income from all clients
each month I find I am doing just fine, without having to chase the next
dollar while needing to ignore my current clients in the process.

Of course, one can't simply flip a switch and migrate to this kind of model
unless there is enough cash on hand to survive the initial lean months as a
core client base is built.  I was lucky in being able to bide my time as I
built my business around this model.  I know another FoxHead who chimes in
once in a while in ProFox who has begun to adopt this kind of business
model.  He has a full time (or more g) job, and can afford (from what I
can tell) to take his time in building up his client base on the recurring
fee and minimal initial charge business model.  If he continues to do an
excellent job for his clients, and he grows his business a bit at a time,
keeps his overhead low (work out of the house), his side income may well
exceed his employment income in time.  Other folks may have a spouse whose
income can help with the reduced income as one transitions from full up
front billing to a smaller initial billing with recurring fee billing model.
For others yet it may have to be a matter of offering the smaller initial
fee with recurring fees on a situational basis for some 

Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread KAM.covad
I agree with this. We have something similar. The name of the button should be 
the value you want to store. The caption should be something similar. In 
cmdbutton.click() put thisform.StoreThisValue(This.Name)
Now you can simply copy this button and change the name and caption of the 
other buttons. No need to change click()

Depending on your values, you could make that the caption and pass this.caption 
so you do not need to modify the button names


- Original Message - 
From: Vince Teachout 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Update field value


Jim Harvey wrote:
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button that
 has a value as it's caption.
 
 There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.
 
 I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value, and
 that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.
 
 Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
 therefore assign the new value to the field.
 
 The code I'm using now in the button.click is:
 
 SELECT bidboard
 
 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000
 
 llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')
 
 thisform.refresh


If I'm following you correctly, I would create a form method MyMethod 
with a parameter.  In the button click, I'd either call 
Thisform.MyMethod(1)  (Where the numeric is different for each button), 
or better yet ThisForm.MyMethod(this.name) (allowing for exactly the 
same code in each button)

Then in the method, use a CASE statement, and proceed from there.

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[NF] How to change a folder icon in the windows explorer?

2009-03-25 Thread KAM.covad
If you right click on a folder icon (that yellow thing) you can select a 
different icon. Is there a way to do that in VFP SP1?

I would prefer to use Wscript.shell and/or the windows api if possible (not a 
3rd party activeX

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Re: [NF] What to charge customers when they let support lapse

2009-03-24 Thread KAM.covad
This is probably going to be an issue for more clients as the economy worsens 
and they look for places to cut expenses. 

We charge for support monthly and it is optional. If they quit and then want 
updates at a future time, we require 6 months minimum since we cannot support 
them unless they have the latest version and it is worth that. Also, if they 
prepay for a year, they can pay for 10 months and get the 11th and 12th at no 
charge. This seems to be working ok for the past 10 years or so. We only 
charged monthly before that and it was not a good business model for us.

We tried billing by the call and that was a total failure. We will never 
attempt anything like that again.

I am interested in what others do.



- Original Message - 
From: MB Software Solutions General Account 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:15 PM
Subject: [NF] What to charge customers when they let support lapse


Asked via tweet earlier today how vendors handle clients who've let
support lapse.  I eluded to the proverbial concern about customers not
wanting to pay for the milk since they can get the cow for free.  Got this
tweet back from Jody Meyer:

JodyMeyer: @mbabcock16 /Client Support/ We back charge here at MAGI to
catch them up.  There is no free milk here.

Seems like a good policy.  But I know this one client would say look,
we like your software, but it works fine for us and we'd rather pay an
hourly rate since we'll only need you (probably) 3 hours annually.  And
he's right from the perspective that the software not only works, it
works well, even after 6 years of usage.  (That's the problem with
building great software---you don't make any money on recurring support
fees  LOL!)

I've got another client down in TX who bought FabMate but wanted to wait
some undetermined amount of time until they renew on FabMate
support/upgrades as well.  This all sucks of course, as I'd like to
build my business model on recurring income.  I'll keep
upgrading/enhancing software (if it needs it), but to do it and then
have this guy come back some point in the future to then buy another
year of support (but receive all of the goodies I've done since he let
support lapse) doesn't make me warm and fuzzy.

The first customer has a point.  The second customer is a bit different
and I really don't want to give them upgrades they never paid for.  I'm
not going to hold them hostage, but am looking for advice on how best to
handle these situations.

tia!
--Mike


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Re: VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru

2009-03-14 Thread KAM.covad
This turned out to be the best for me. Simple, quick and works for all dates 
tested. 

Select Top 1 * ;
from oFipsCodes ;
where ;
ccode = lcFips And ;
!EMPTY(dbgdate) AND ;
dbgdate = ldDate ;
order By dbgdate Descending
scatter oFipsCodes
nTaxRate = oFipsCodes.nTax

This is useful since many counties in California are increasing their sales 
taxes on 4/1. This allows us to enter the new tax rate now and have it 
automatically apply for transactions beginning with 4/1.


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Russell 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM, KAM.covad
a_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I have a table with a date field: dDate and thousands of records.

 The dates are scattered over time including the future. I need to find the 
 record with the max date that is = required date.

 How would you do this with sql select and also with Locate?


Select top 1 column list
from yourTable
where dDate = ldDate
order by dDate descending

For Fox 7 and higher I believe, maybe you need 8??

HTH


-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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Re: VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru

2009-03-14 Thread KAM.covad
sry,

scatter name oFipsCodes

- Original Message - 
From: KAM.covad 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru


This turned out to be the best for me. Simple, quick and works for all dates 
tested. 

Select Top 1 * ;
from oFipsCodes ;
where ;
ccode = lcFips And ;
!EMPTY(dbgdate) AND ;
dbgdate = ldDate ;
order By dbgdate Descending
scatter name oFipsCodes
nTaxRate = oFipsCodes.nTax

This is useful since many counties in California are increasing their sales 
taxes on 4/1. This allows us to enter the new tax rate now and have it 
automatically apply for transactions beginning with 4/1.


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Russell 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM, KAM.covad
a_gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com wrote:
 I have a table with a date field: dDate and thousands of records.

 The dates are scattered over time including the future. I need to find the 
 record with the max date that is = required date.

 How would you do this with sql select and also with Locate?


Select top 1 column list
from yourTable
where dDate = ldDate
order by dDate descending

For Fox 7 and higher I believe, maybe you need 8??

HTH


-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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VFP9 SP1 question for sql guru

2009-03-12 Thread KAM.covad
I have a table with a date field: dDate and thousands of records.

The dates are scattered over time including the future. I need to find the 
record with the max date that is = required date.

How would you do this with sql select and also with Locate?



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Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.

2009-03-10 Thread KAM.covad
I agree with this. I am definitely moving toward Python and PostgreSQL. I went 
to the Baypiggies meeting last month (local python user meeting) I know that M$ 
will eventually screw all of us in order to force us to use .Net or whatever 
garbage they dream up next and I need to find a way out of this monopoly 
proprietary box.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.



It's always the lurkers that complain the most.  If they don't like the 
content, then contribute, otherwise keep lurking.

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

 From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com
 Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Purpose of the list.
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:25 AM
 David Boatright wrote:
And your contribution has been... ?
  
   To Foxpro? I continue to use it every day, unlike
 you.  You seem to
   maintain this list just so you can shit all over
 Foxpro and Microsoft
   just to promote your new toy.
 
 
 Wow!  Unbelievable!  I owe a lot of my success to Ed Leafe
 and ProFox. 
 I can't tell you how many times I had a sticky problem
 with Terminal 
 Services or FTP or something that you need to support a VFP
 application; 
 or wanted opinions from people that have a lot of
 experience.
 
 What about all of the I'm at a customer site and
 need some help fast...
 
 And what's wrong with mentioning Dabo?  It's all of
 the talk about Linux 
 and Dabo and Python and PostGreSQL that has me moving in
 that direction 
 - while still maintaining VFP applications - and I
 appreciate all of the 
 help.  It is some of the best you can find - and in one
 place.
 
 And finally, I am self-employed and sit in an office by
 myself.  The 
 people of ProFox are my co-workers and I learn an awful lot
 about 
 everything from them.
 
 Thank you again, Ed!
 
 Jeff
 
 Jeff Johnson
 j...@san-dc.com
 SanDC, Inc.
 623-582-0323
 Fax 623-869-0675
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)

2009-03-06 Thread KAM.covad
They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, they make your life 
worse. 


- Original Message - 
From: Ed Leafe 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)


On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account  
wrote:

 On a serious note though, if MonkeyBoy Ballmer called you and said  
 Paul,
 you open-source, bleeding liberal, socialistic SOB (...well, maybe he
 wouldn't say that part), what do you suggest we do in our sales
 strategies?  Paul, we can't just give it away...how would we make our
 money?


Provide true value to customers, where people *want* to buy your  
products. The reason Word and Excel became such important products is  
that they made life easier for their users, and that was worth paying  
money for.

How does Vista or XP or Win7 make your life easier than the previous  
version? How about the latest Office versus the previous Office? Is it  
worth the cost? Or do you feel compelled to pay for the upgrade  
because the old version will be rendered incompatible or insecure?


-- Ed Leafe




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Re: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)

2009-03-06 Thread KAM.covad
I think Word is good. You missed the context. Ed asked how the new versions 
made your life easier than the previous version.


- Original Message - 
From: John Weller 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: Dabo 64-bit? (was RE: Vulcan.NET)


Sorry - I don't agree!  The first time I used a word processor (Wordwise on
the BBC Micro in 1980) I was incredibly impressed by how much easier it made
producing a legible good looking document.  I then went through the WordStar
and WordPervert phases - when I saw Word for Windows for the first time it
blew me away and increased my productivity several times over.  I hated
Office 2007 when I first saw it but had to use it in order to demonstrate it
to a class;  I soon realised that it was actually easier to use because the
various menu options are grouped in a more logical manner.  Open Office is
great but does not have the functionality I need - specifically mail merge
automation from within VFP.  (I've not tried that with 2007 yet, that's
still on 2000 - if it ain't broke don't fix it g)

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

 
 They do NOT make your life easier/better. On the contrary, 
 they make your life worse. 
 


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[NF] Question SSL certificates

2009-03-03 Thread KAM.covad
There are some old threads on this, I know. I would like to find out if anyone 
has a source for a very low cost/free way to get a certificate that would be 
accepted by most current browsers without that message stating that the 
certificate is not this or that.

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Vista v Win7

2009-02-19 Thread KAM.covad
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png

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Re: Win7, Innosetup and other stuff

2009-02-11 Thread KAM.covad
I expect a new os to support application programs that worked fine on the 
previous os. If not, the necessary modifications that I need to make should be 
clearly spelled out or obvious. As an alternative, I think it is perfectly ok 
for M$ (for example) to stop supporting all dos programs in Vista 64. That is 
clear and I can tell my clients that they need to upgrade to a windows program. 
In fact, I welcome this as it helps me with support.

What I think is obnoxious and unreasonable is to take a working dialog, 
program, whatever, and rename it and move it to some obscure place just so end 
users get the impression that this is a new os and worth upgrading.

I am well aware that end users who only do email and maybe some word processing 
will think Vista is ok. However, that is not all that my users do. My users 
need my software in order to pay their bills and they expect me to be able to 
support them because they are not experts in hardware or software. M$ seems to 
go out of their way to make supporting existing software difficult. That is 
stupid and near sighted and serves no good purpose. 




- Original Message - 
From: William Sanders / EFG 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Win7, Innosetup and other stuff


I take a different approach to testing apps on a new(ish) OS, that , when
done, leaves a total blueprint of that OS's internal calls with any app
that I'm testing.

I switched over to this technique late in 1999, and never looked back.

I can understand the gripe and moan philosophy, but if I engage in it for
more than 3 minutes, I'm doing my product line a great disservice - and
come on - isn't that wot it's all about ?

You want yer software to work on new(ish) OS's, so you have New Users
Paying New Licensing Fees...

Or did I miss your point, in it's entirety?

Mondo Regards [Bil]
-- 
William Sanders / efGroup {rmv the DOT BOB to reply}
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Win7, Innosetup and other stuff

2009-02-07 Thread KAM.covad
We got the Windows7 beta to see how our software works with it. We don't see 
much difference from Vista. Same old crap. Where are all the renamed and moved 
programs? If you have a lot of time to waste you can spend a few days of 
frustration trying to find them. Then when you find them, you find that there 
are enough changes so they don't work properly. M$ must be starving the monkey 
that does the quality assurance. M$ is doing everything possible to push 
everyone to Linux. Too bad that the 'masses' still can't use Linux. If they 
could, it would be a winner now.

We still have over 1000 users with our FPD26A software and it works fine when 
you do all the crap you have to do to Vista. 

Our VFP9 SP1 version works on Win7 with no special changes. 

We have a newly designed innosetup installer and it is great. Finally we are 
able to install without dealing with the UAC, admin privileges to 'register' 
ocx and dll files. (what fool at M$ dreamed up the registry, registering crap, 
etc) That innosetup installer is great. We still have trouble with the 'Tasks' 
and 'Icons'. For some reason we can't get a shortcut on the desktop. You can 
get a lot of shortcuts under the Start button. We have a VFP9 SP1 program that 
creates shortcuts wherever we want, instantly so we put a reference to it in 
the [RUN] section of innosetup.

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VFP 9 runtime on Vista, the QD way - Anyone use innosetup for PostreSQL to be used with VFP9 SP1?

2009-02-05 Thread KAM.covad

- Original Message - 
From: Grigore Dolghin 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: VFP 9 runtime on Vista, the QD way


Here is a innosetup script which deals with everything regarding installing
a visual foxpro application under vista, in program files. UAC is taken care
off, the visual foxpro runtime is installed silently in the correct location
and correctly registered, also mysql odbc driver is installed. VFP runtimes
and MySQL ODBC driver are optional (they show up as checkboxes in
innosetup). There is a reference to a text file named runtime.txt - it is
the VFP Runtime installation kit configuration file and it's content is:

===
SELECT_RT=ABCDE
SELECTION=Aa
===

Points of interest in this script:
- I am using the inno setup preprocessor as well, that's why the app name is
substituted.
- Two more tasks, checkable alone - one for runtime, one for odbc driver.
- DeleteAfterInstall flag set on vfp runtime kit, odbc kit and runtime.txt
file. This means they won't stick around after instalation finishes.
- c++ runtime and mscomctl.ocx are installed in windows\system32 folder.
- {app} folder is created manually with write-access rights. (if it's not,
innosetup creates it by itself, to be able to place files there, but it
doesn't set any write access rights on that folder) - check dirs section
in script
- check the uninstall delete section - I personally hate when I uninstall
a program and it leaves junk in my program files (even an empty folder).
This script erases everything.

I suggest to use Inno Setup QuickStart Pack - it contains the compiler
itself, istool (a nice front end) and the preprocessor, in a single
installation kit. The link is here:
http://www.innosetup.com/isdl.php - look for QuickStart Pack.

Hope this helps.


=
; Script generated by the Inno Setup Script Wizard.
; SEE THE DOCUMENTATION FOR DETAILS ON CREATING INNO SETUP SCRIPT FILES!

#define MyAppName ADM Framework
#define MyAppVersion 1.1.3
#define MyAppVerName ADM Framework 1.1.3
#define MyAppPublisher ADM Farm SRL
#define MyAppURL http://www.admfarm.ro;
#define MyAppSupportURL http://it.admfarm.ro;
#define MyAppExeName ADMApp.exe

[Setup]
; NOTE: The value of AppId uniquely identifies this application.
; Do not use the same AppId value in installers for other applications.
; (To generate a new GUID, click Tools | Generate GUID inside the IDE.)
AppId={{AEB2AC2F-71A1-4556-A277-CF2107E56EED}
AppName={#MyAppName}
AppVerName={#MyAppVerName}
AppPublisher={#MyAppPublisher}
AppPublisherURL={#MyAppURL}
AppSupportURL={#MyAppSupportURL}
AppUpdatesURL={#MyAppSupportURL}
DefaultDirName={pf}\{#MyAppName}
DefaultGroupName={#MyAppName}
OutputDir=C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\kit
OutputBaseFilename=Setup {#MyAppName}
Compression=lzma
SolidCompression=true
InternalCompressLevel=ultra
VersionInfoVersion={#MyAppVersion}
VersionInfoCompany=ADM Farm SRL
VersionInfoDescription=Kit instalare ADM Framework {#MyAppVersion}
VersionInfoCopyright=(c) 2008 Grigore Dolghin

[Languages]
Name: english; MessagesFile: compiler:Default.isl
;Name: romanian; MessagesFile: compiler:Languages\Romanian.isl

[Tasks]
Name: desktopicon; Description: {cm:CreateDesktopIcon}; GroupDescription:
{cm:AdditionalIcons}; Flags: unchecked
Name: quicklaunchicon; Description: {cm:CreateQuickLaunchIcon};
GroupDescription: {cm:AdditionalIcons}; Flags: unchecked
Name: Install_MySQL_ODBC; Description: Instalare driver ODBC pentru MySQL;
GroupDescription: Instalare driver ODBC; Flags: checkablealone
Name: Install_VFP_Runtime; Description: Instalare biblioteci VFP;
GroupDescription: Instalare biblioteci VFP; Flags: checkablealone;
Languages:

[Files]
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\ADMApp.exe; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\preluare.ini; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\admapp.ini; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\ADMFramework.chm; DestDir: {app}; Flags:
ignoreversion
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\Config.fpw; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion
Source: C:\Dev\VFP\ADMApp\preluare.exe; DestDir: {app}; Flags: ignoreversion
; NOTE: Don't use Flags: ignoreversion on any shared system files
Source: VFP9SP2RT.exe; DestDir: {app}; Flags: deleteafterinstall; Tasks:
Source: runtime.txt; DestDir: {app}; Flags: deleteafterinstall
Source: mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.26-win32.msi; DestDir: {app}; Flags:
deleteafterinstall; Tasks:
Source: msvcp71.dll; DestDir: {sys}; Flags: uninsneveruninstall
Source: ..\..\Common\libs\compress.fll; DestDir: {app}
Source: ..\..\Common\libs\hash.fll; DestDir: {app}
Source: mscomctl.ocx; DestDir: {sys}; Flags: regserver sharedfile
uninsneveruninstall

[Icons]
Name: {group}\{#MyAppName}; Filename: {app}\{#MyAppExeName}; WorkingDir:
{app}; IconFilename: {app}\ADMApp.exe; IconIndex: 0; Tasks: ; Languages:
Name: {group}\{cm:ProgramOnTheWeb,{#MyAppName}}; Filename: {#MyAppURL}
Name: {group}\{cm:ProgramOnTheWeb,Suport 

[NF] What is the latest on tablet computers?

2009-01-31 Thread KAM.covad
I have been offered a contract to get my company's software (VFP9 SP1) working 
with a touch screen, etc on a light weight table computer. Anyone have any 
suggestions?

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Re: VFP 9 runtime on Vista, the QD way Install on the server or local workstation?

2009-01-31 Thread KAM.covad
Installing on the local machine will not work for my clients. I have tried it. 
It is a mess. If you have 8 workstations, you would have to update all 8 at the 
same time. You would have to deal with that stupid MS requirement to 'register' 
ocx and dll files, even if they are in the same folder with the exe. Then on 
XP, Vista, etc you must have admin privileges, etc. This is too much for end 
users who are not at all computer literate. Installing on the network server 
works just fine and is not so difficult to support.


- Original Message - 
From: MB Software Solutions General Account 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: VFP 9 runtime on Vista, the QD way


On Fri, January 30, 2009 2:35 pm, Rick Borup wrote:
 [Paul wrote:]

 Oh but why install the app on the network drive? IMO apps
 should be installed on the local computer. I realize this is an old, old
 argument around here, too.

 It isn't always the developer's choice. In my experience, some clients
 will insist on the app being installed on the network file server, while
 others will insist on it being installed on each local workstation. So,
 it's good to have a strategy for each type of deployment.


Agreed that it's not always the developer's choice, but what's a good
reason for the client to absolutely insist that the program be installed
on the LAN instead of the local machine?  It wouldn't take long to
convince them of the benefits of running it from the client.


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[NF] FreeNAS was SCSI drives and VFP data tables

2009-01-28 Thread KAM.covad
I am interested in your experience with the server and sata drives. 

Seagate has new firmware for their 1.5TB drives (5 year warrantee) that 
supposedly fixes the problems they had - they would 'go to sleep' for 30 
seconds now and then.

I am considering building a RAID5 NAS using FreeNAS to avoid problems with 
Linux/windows, etc. I would install 5 Seagate 1.5 TB drives for data and boot  
from a USB drive. 



- Original Message - 
From: Gil Hale 
To: profox@leafe.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: SCSI drives and VFP data tables


Unfortunately with
Linux I found (supposedly) I can't have RAID5, so I am opting for RAID1, and
the eSATA card supports hot swapping.  So I have a 3rd 250Gb hot swap HDD
for the boot drive set in case one HDD fails, and a 3rd 1.5Tg Seagate
Freeagent Extreme external eSATA/USB2/Firewire HDD for the same reason.
Warranties be damned if I have to wait a week to get a replacement part g.
I never ran RAID1 before, so this will be interesting from both a
performance and failure recovery perspective (I will test the hot swap and
data striping capabilities before putting the Server into production).  Oh,
setup is going to be interesting also as I plan to run the Server under
Ubuntu Server v-8.04 (may 8.10, have not decided yet).  The Server OS
options from Dell were Windows, Red Hat or Suse - but not Ubuntu.  If I run
into a pinch with Ubuntu I guess it is back to Suse for that one machine,
which is fine although it does have an annual fee.  Could be worse, I could
have had Windows shoved down my throat (again).



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Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out

2009-01-03 Thread KAM.covad
Q: What is the primary difference between the iPod and the Zune?
A: the iPod works.


- Original Message - 
From: MB Software Solutions General Account 
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out


KAM.covad wrote:
 good old M$. I wonder how much of that M$ untested garbage is in the
government? Could explain a lot.


I was under the impression that the govt is using more and more open
source stuff.  It is a crime/shame that the Bush administration let M$
off the hook as they did.  Think of how M$ could have evolved a bit
better perhaps if they'd been split up.  (Or would that have made M$ worse?)





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Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out

2009-01-03 Thread KAM.covad
I think I can speak for everyone on this list when I say we all love M$ and 
approve of all their tactics to get just one more dime
out of us.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out


I love Microsoft.  It doesn't matter how much they screw up, they still 
continue their march foward. LOL

*



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 From: KAM.covad gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:07 PM
 Q: What is the primary difference between the iPod and the
 Zune?
 A: the iPod works.


 - Original Message - 
 From: MB Software Solutions General Account
 mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out


 KAM.covad wrote:
  good old M$. I wonder how much of that M$ untested
 garbage is in the
 government? Could explain a lot.


 I was under the impression that the govt is using more and
 more open
 source stuff.  It is a crime/shame that the Bush
 administration let M$
 off the hook as they did.  Think of how M$ could have
 evolved a bit
 better perhaps if they'd been split up.  (Or would that
 have made M$ worse?)





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Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out

2009-01-02 Thread KAM.covad
good old M$. I wonder how much of that M$ untested garbage is in the 
government? Could explain a lot.


- Original Message - 
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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ Zune players conk out


On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
 http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20081231/ap_on_hi_te/tec_zunes_zapped

 SAN FRANCISCO - Happy New Year from Microsoft Corp.: Your Zune is dead.

 Thousands of Microsoft's Zune media players — the software company's
 answer to Apple Inc.'s iPod — unexpectedly conked out Wednesday and
 showed users an error message, prompting references to Y2K for Zunes.
 The problems appeared when people tried to start up their devices.

 Frustrated users lit up Microsoft's online support forum for Zunes with
 more than 2,500 messages by Wednesday afternoon.
---

I was hit by that as well.  It was quiet for me at work because the
firewall will not let in media.



-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
First Horizon Bank
Memphis TN

901.246-0159


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[OT] Re: How Two Wrongs make a Right

2008-12-28 Thread KAM.covad
I heard that as a joke:

Lu Wong and Su Wong had a child. After the delivery, the nurse brought a 
(obviously white Caucasian) baby boy to the father. The
nurse asked what he would name the child? His response: Well, 2 wongs don't 
make a white so I think we will name him Sum Tim Wong.


- Original Message - 
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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: How Two Wrongs make a Right


Hi Everybody!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/world/africa/28farmers.html?_r=1pagewanted=2hp
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/


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Re: [NF] MicroSoft Exchange Training

2008-12-23 Thread KAM.covad
We have used Intuit for the past 11 years. Their integration with QuickBooks is 
the best we have ever used. We used ADP previously 
for over 15 years and it was a nightmare trying to read those reports (for 
example when you file the workman's comp). Also, you end 
up with 2 sets of books since they don't integrate with your bookkeeping system.

I have to add that QuickBooks is something like Microsoft in that they make 
changes just so they can force you to upgrade - they 
tell you that you need to upgrade in order to keep using the payroll. The 
upgrades usually mess things up just like Microsoft so 
you have 10 months of frustration trying to find things. They move things 
around and change the names. Maybe they hired some of the 
stupid software designers from Microsoft. I would rather just pay a toll now 
and then and keep the program I know how to use.



- Original Message - 
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To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NF] MicroSoft Exchange Training


ADP and Paychex both have excellent services also.

Gil

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:22 PM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] MicroSoft Exchange Training


 If you do your own payroll and you mess up, you're open to all
 kinds of fines from the IRS and legal action from the employee.
 If EDS screws up, they're liable for it.

 They handle all the deposits, the direct deposits, the payments
 to the IRS, payments to the state, and to the city.

 And they are experts in what they do.


 --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:

  From: Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com
  Subject: Re: [NF] MicroSoft Exchange Training
  To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
  Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:16 PM
  On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote:
 
   In the UK you have to keep 3 years of payroll records,
  that does not
   include the current year.
   For Accounts you have to keep 7 years records, again
  that does not
   include the current year.
   The Revenue may well be asked how your accounts
  produced that wage
   bill,
   in other other words you have to keep 8 years worth of
  payroll
  
   I think an online system will not be able to do this.
   If you shut your business you will have to keep your
  subscription
   going
   for 8 years after you finish!!
  
   When I think of the changes that have occurred over
  the past 5 years,
   let alone 8 years in the Payroll system then it is
  quite mind boggling
   to think that a current payroll can resolve all the
  adjustments.
 
 
  I'm not talking about an online payroll program, or
  anything that
  simple. I'm talking about companies such as Paychex or
  EDS or several
  others that handle everything to do with payroll, including
  reporting
  and archiving records. If you get audited, you are *much*
  better off
  having a certified company like this, as they don't
  miss a trick. They
  have people who do nothing except keep up with the tax
  laws, in order
  to make sure that their clients are not exposed to any
  liability,
  because it would cost the payroll company as much if not
  more.
 
 
  -- Ed Leafe
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NF] Happy 34th Birthday to the Altair 8800

2008-12-19 Thread KAM.covad
I remember it was featured on a copy of popular mechanics or one of those types 
of magazines - sometime around 1975.

I have one of the original MITS Altair 8800 kits that I assembled. I think I 
have still have the receipt. I was at the 1st meeting
at Gordon French's garage in Menlo Park, CA. The meeting was organized by 
posting in a column in a magazine (no email back then).
The link you have below says the 1st meeting was at Stanford SLAC. That is not 
true. That came later. Gordon French had a hobby of
model steam engines. I wonder what ever happened to him. He went to the 
meetings at Stanford for a time and then disappeared. Steve
Jobs and Steve Waz later joined the club and showed the first apple computer at 
SLAC. I still remember those 'kids' coming down the
isle with their 1st plastic case.

The first program on the Altair was a looping program that you had to enter 1 
byte at a time on the front panel, something like the
boot program on a HP 3000 (for those old enough to remember that stuff). It 
caused a radio frequency signal that sounded like a
song on your radio. I later got a punched tape reader that I still have, so you 
did not have to enter the boot program 1 byte at a
time. I believe I had 1K or 4k (yes, 1 thousand bytes) of memory. I developed a 
tape driver program for a company named Processor
Technology in Berkeley - later moved to Pleasanton, CA that would control a 
small tape drive to give 'massive' storage. It was back
before the macro assemblers. It was written in pure machine language with lots 
of dirty tricks so it would fit in that memory. I
remember digging through the Intel docs to find out how I could jump into the 
middle of some code to save some memory. I learned a
lot from a guy named George Morrow in Berkeley - AKA Morrow's Micro Stuff. I 
believe that George Morrow coined the name 'S-100' for
the first microcomputer bus. Great fun.


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To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: [NF] Happy 34th Birthday to the Altair 8800


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVwfDA4watUeurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/19/anniversaries/feature=player_embedded



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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

2008-12-18 Thread KAM.covad
Just think. Those guys at the bank probably think there is that old guy with 
the tapes again. If you do this long enough, they 
may just give you the keys so you can let yourself in. Could open up some 
profitable possibilities.


- Original Message - 
From: Gil Hale g...@gilhale.com
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners


Folks at our bank think I am crazy to come in every Saturday to swap out my
LTO3 backup media cartridge tapes.  I tell them I hope in 30 years I can say
it was all a waste of time.  But for now I keep 3 sets in weekly rotation,
constantly.  The most I ought to lose is one week, two at the worst, if
anything real bad to happen.  If it is all lost, then Rochester, NY, will
have become a smoldering pile of rubble due to an atomic strike or
something.  I really think I have it all covered real nicely.  That said, a
service like Carbonite is also a good thing.  In my case I do not feel I
need it, but since you mentioned it I may re-examine it for my more volatile
files (Outlook.pst, Quicken and QuickBooks).

Gil

 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:28 PM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners


 I also use carbonite which is awesome.  I've tried to spread this
 word to my friends who don't get it.  One bought an external HD
 after I told him about Carbonite and was all proud.

 So I said to him, what if you have a fire or someone steals your
 computer and your backup drive, you leave them attached to each
 other all the time?

 No response.

 For 40 bucks a year you can't go wrong.

 *



 --- On Thu, 12/18/08, Gil Hale g...@gilhale.com wrote:

  From: Gil Hale g...@gilhale.com
  Subject: RE: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
  To: profox@leafe.com
  Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:22 AM
  I am so pleased that over the years I have seen so many of
  our fellow
  FoxHeads speak about taking backups so seriously.  Ed once
  told me there are
  two kinds of computer users.  This that have lost data, and
  those that will.
  I have lost data in the deep, dark past - before I knew
  about backups.  I do
  not want to re-join the those that will club,
  so I hedge my bets pretty
  aggressively.  Yet, for all the protection I give my data I
  still think
  there is more I could do.  At some point it becomes a
  matter of protection
  at what cost.  That is a far cry from, I
  can't afford protection at any
  price, so I will take my chances.  Besides I have not lost
  a hard drive
  yet..., which I see too often.
 
  Gil
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
   [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of
  Kevin Cully
   Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM
   To: profoxt...@leafe.com
   Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners
  
  
   Point taken.  I guess my point was that my clients
  thought that RAID was
   enough to provide availability, but I've seen the
  backplane fail more
   often than a HD.  In these cases, they were down for a
  day or two while
   they scrambled to get a cheap server in place and
  configured and
   restored to get the system back up and running.
  
   Safe, offsite storage is important no matter what.  I
  keep all of
   CULLYTech offsite as a backup.
  
   -Kevin
   CULLY Technologies, LLC
  
  
   Ted Roche wrote:
The biggest mistake I see clients make in this
  situation is thinking
that RAID == backup. It's not. RAID provides
  _availability_, so that a
single HDD failure doesn't take down the
  facility. They still need
backup. That's a separate thing.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

2008-12-18 Thread KAM.covad
You may need to reconsider:
http://www.cccarto.com/faults/hollister/faults that run through Hollister
http://www.cccarto.com/faults/la_faults/   faults that run through LA.

You should get a location in Las Vegas or Arizona or somewhere on the other 
side of all those faults. I can't help you. I am on top
of all the same faults as Hollister. I have relatives in NM. I probably should 
put a server there. I wonder how much the utilities
and an adequate Internet connection would cost? I guess all you need is 
Win2000/Linux + apache2 and slimftp or something like that.
That would give you a full time html and ftp connection.


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To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NF] Heads up to Buffalo NAS owners

California would have to get blown to smithereens, or an unlikely coincidence 
would
have to occur, for me to lose my data.

Paul


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Re: [NF - sorta] Credit Card Processing

2008-12-15 Thread KAM.covad
We use authorize.net. they have a simple html code you embed in your web site. 
That takes the client to authorize.net's secure web 
site. We use Nova from costco.com for the credit card processing. the client 
gets an email confirmation of the transaction. You get 
an email from authorize.net for each individual transaction as well as a batch 
confirmation, usually one per day. the amounts are 
deposited directly to your bank account (we use Bank of America - it can take 3 
or 4 days to post to the bank, we are thinking 
about changing to another bank and I would appreciate any references). 
Authorize.net had a good tech to work with and easy test 
ids, etc that you need to get your code working. We do not have a shopping card 
because we do not want to do our fulfillment (I 
would appreciate any referrals for this - for healthcare forms like the ub04, 
cms1500, etc)


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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [NF - sorta] Credit Card Processing



On Dec 15, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Paul McNett wrote:

 Do you know if this is true of other gateways?

 I don't know how gateway is defined so I don't know.

Like this one: http://www.authorize.net/

The way I am just beginning to understand it, they are exploiting
this abysmal customer support by creating a middle tier:

  - I communicate CC information to them.

  - They process it in a way that meets that standards of the chosen
CC processor, and communicate to them and receives the response.

  - Passing the response back to my program.

Of course, we pay them for the privilege. My understanding is that
they work with a number of processors, and if we elect to change (in
theory), we flip a switch and start processing with Ken's Bank
instead of Chasing Tails Bank. I don't need to alter the program.

Ken


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Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?

2008-12-13 Thread KAM.covad
You left out Win2000 which I think was the last fully tested, working os from 
M$. We have a lot of these running great, no 
complaints. We have upgraded most of the hardware over the years. We have a 
Win2K computer with Apache2. We just added a 'Calvary 
2TB USB Raid 1 drive' which will give 1 TB of storage to one of our web sites. 
It is connected to a T1 and will deliver files 
continuously at full speed. Win2000 runs open office, browsers, all the 
applications we use, etc. No reason to change.

- Original Message - 
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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?


98 was good
ME sucked
XP was good
Vista sucked

Now it looks like Windows 7 is faster than XP.


So do they hire morons for every other O/S?

*


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 Subject: Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:45 PM
 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Yep, I tell my customers to pay the extra 100 bucks to
 have Dell downgrade to XP
 
 Ditto.


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Re: Interaction between Firefox and VFP9

2008-12-12 Thread KAM.covad
I have tried version 3 - I went back to version 2.0.0.18 - same problem. As 
someone else posted, this is only with multiple tabs.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Interaction between Firefox and VFP9


I don't have VFP9, but do you have the very latest Firefox running?

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 From: KAM.covad gmail_nos...@kenmcginnis.com
 Subject: Interaction between Firefox and VFP9
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 7:47 PM
 I have confirmed that if you have Firefox open with more
 than one tab, then you open VFP9 and try to compile, use
 code reference,
 etc, the performance is dead. VFP hardly runs at all. Can
 someone else confirm this?



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Re: When is an administrator not an administrator?

2008-12-12 Thread KAM.covad
I have already put 2 'Crapsta' computers back on Win2000. Solved all my 
problems.

Unfortunately I need one Crapsta computer to test with because clients are 
getting it. I will be very happy when people start 
buying Linux computers. I hope that 5-10 years from now we are not forced to do 
business with M$ anymore. It would be great to be 
able to tell clients that we don't support M$ crap.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Cully kcu...@cullytechnologies.com
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: When is an administrator not an administrator?


Answer: Vista

I've got this new hot laptop, fully decked out.  Vista Home Premium.
Okay, I don't have to attach it to a domain so I don't need Ultimate or
anything.

I'm trying to get up and running with my development environment.  Vista
says that I'm the Administrator on the box, and there aren't any other
users configured {Opps!  WTF?!?  I wouldn't have set myself up as an
Administrator if I had known.}  But wait!  I'm trying to configure a
West-Wind application and it's having trouble running the Console.exe
magic which registers it.  It's saying that I'm NOT an administrator.

I'm about to poke my eyes out after a day of frustration when I decide
to Google instead: How do I know if I'm an administrator on Vista?

I found this tip to make the Administrator magically appear from
nowhere:http://tinyurl.com/2q56p3

Notice that when you Run as administrator there's no password
required.  Insanity.

VFP definitely runs slower on my new laptop than on my old XP Pro desktop.

I'm feeling dirty after running Vista, but I need it for day in and day
out VFP development.  Oh well.  Thought I'd share.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC



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Interaction between Firefox and VFP9

2008-12-11 Thread KAM.covad
I have confirmed that if you have Firefox open with more than one tab, then you 
open VFP9 and try to compile, use code reference, 
etc, the performance is dead. VFP hardly runs at all. Can someone else confirm 
this? 



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Re: [NF] Amusement

2008-12-05 Thread KAM.covad
My knowledge is very old, but when I programmed in Cobol, the 'database' was 
nothing but 'bytes on the disk'. The definition of the
fields were in the Cobol program. For those younger folks who know about sql, 
fox, etc, there was nothing in the 'database' that
would give you a clue about where the data was. It gets worse. Cobol allows 
overlaying data. I could have a 128 byte record, bytes
21-26 could be ASCII text and in a different record it could be a floating 
point. Again, the definition was in the Cobol code.
There would be one byte (for example) that would tell you how to interpret that 
record. In other words, without the code, you could
have a very hard time working with the data. Back in the old days, disk space 
and memory was extremely expensive so you had to do a
lot of dirty tricks in order to have a large database with reasonable access 
times. I code for healthcare. I remember packing the
diagnosis codes into binary so that we did not have to use 6 bytes. Hope that 
is clear.

This seems like a good opportunity for California to get some bids from ADP, 
Intuit, etc for a payroll program.


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Subject: Re: [NF] Amusement


I guess that's an interesting question.  What were the common databases
used with Cobol in its heyday?  DB2 perhaps?  I sure don't know.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


Kenneth Kixmoeller wrote:
 The COBOL is probably the UI to the database, and (as I'm sure every
 bureaucrat facing a huge pay cut will tell you): That is the only
 way to do it! (So *there*, Gov.)



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Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.

2008-11-28 Thread KAM.covad
Funny how few people realize that. Some congressman can promise them a handout 
and they will vote for him. They just can't seem to 
realize that handout will not buy what it bought yesterday. Not only that, 
their kids will have to pay it back someday. The 
European governments are well aware of inflation. That is the only mandate 
their central bank has. They have lived through the days 
when it took a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Here in the US 
we had terrible inflation in the 1970's, but it was 
only a few years and now everyone has forgotten. I still remember trying to buy 
my first home with 18% interest. Those numbers 
don't work.


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Nicholas Geti wrote:
 Governments can never go bankrupt. They just print more money.

Besides which we should correct a concept here. If govt. prints money
(inflation) it is not the rich who'll pay the party, they will certainly
not have their money in cash, and what they have they will convert fast.
It is the poor bloke who'll pay, 100% of what he earns will be paying
the inflation tax (yes, it is a tax) while maybe only 5% of what a rich
bloke makes will pay that tax (same as what happens with VAT).



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Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.

2008-11-26 Thread KAM.covad
I had all my retirement funds in SPY - a SP 500 index EFT. I am so sure that 
this is a bottom that I sold everything and bought
SSO also a SP 500 index EFT but is leveraged so it should go up more than SPY 
or mutual funds like VFINX. I bought SSO at 24.75
and 22.90

A paper loss means nothing You still have the same number of shares. You get 
the dividends as long as you don't sell and right now
the dividends are more than bank interest.


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Gil Hale wrote:

 I dissolved everything in my IRA into cash late July 2008, and was kicking
 myself in the ass for several weeks afterward, thinking I was just getting
 nervous for no reason.  But after a few more weeks yet I was pretty happy
 about my decision.  Sure, the returns are lower than they had been, but I
 avoided the drop off the cliff also.  A friend of mine in SoCal told me he
 got out of his investments and went to cash in October.  I thought he still
 must have gotten tagged.  October last year, Gil, heh-heh.  All of his
 expert friends gave him all kinds of crap for being such a chicken.  They
 are apparently not crowing so loud now.

 Next move, Swiss Francs.  I do not trust FDIC can sustain what is coming
 down.

Hi Gil!

Currently, all my money is tied up in debts. Today I see that they are
going to print as much money as they have to, to stabilize the
markets. Hyperinflation here we come!

I wonder if Swiss Francs will even do it? Better buy them today.
Yesterday would have been better.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/


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Re: VFP9 - CSV files

2008-11-26 Thread KAM.covad
How about using STRTOFILE()? It is much simpler for low level file work.


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* Begin
IF !FILE('sytze.csv')
   lnhandle = FCREATE('sytze.csv')
ELSE
   lnhandle = FOPEN('sytze.csv', 2)
ENDIF

IF lnhandle  -1
   lcstring = '14000.00,Smart Car,A totally cool little car that gets
45 miles per gallon but does not have room for a spare tire' + ;
 ' so if you blow out a side wall and go to Discount Tire, you have
to wait for a couple of days for them to get the tire in.  Other' + ;
 ' than that it is really neat.  Oh, and if you run over a pipe it
can do up to $1,200 in damage.'

   =FPUTS(lnhandle, lcstring)
   =FCLOSE(lnhandle)
ENDIF

MODIFY COMMAND sytze.csv
* end

I could not have survived my 20 years without it!

Jeff

Jeff Johnson
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Sytze de Boer wrote:
 HI Jeff, thanks for your help
 I have never in 20 years of foxpro even looked at Fopen, Fwrite etc

 Can you spare 30 secs and share how to use FPUTS ?




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Re: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming

2008-11-21 Thread KAM.covad
Maybe CO2 causes global cooling? Gee, maybe the temp is not related to CO2?

Somewhat related: Since gas is very near $2 here in the SF bay area (first time 
in more than 5 years) the traffic is terrible 
again. We only got a couple of months without a crowded freeway.

The SF bay area large city mayors have joined in a project to install thousands 
of electric 'filling locations' and battery 
exchange locations. Everyone thinks that is what is needed to promote the 
electric car. Telsa is going to build an electric 5 
person sedan factory in San Jose beginning next summer. It will get about 240 
miles on a charge and is all\-electric. It will begin 
shipping by 2010. After the stations are installed, look for SF to bar 
non-electric cars from downtown and/or put on a very high 
tax.



- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:34 PM
Subject: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/the-killer-frost-for-global-warming/


Turn up the heat, somebody. The globe is freezing. Even Al Gore is looking for 
an extra blanket. Winter has barely come to the 
northern latitudes and already we've got bigger goosebumps than usual. So far 
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 
(NOAA) reports 63 record snowfalls in the United States, 115 lowest-ever 
temperatures for the month. Only 44 Octobers over the past 
114 years have been cooler than this last one. 


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Re: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming

2008-11-21 Thread KAM.covad
I live in San Mateo county about 18 miles South. It is much more conservative 
here. We enjoy some of the benefits with few visible 
radicals. The court system, police, etc in this county are known for being 
conservative. My kids have never been around people who 
smoke. No buildings allow smoking. There are no power plants anywhere near the 
bay area other than wind farms and solar farms. You 
almost never see any trash anywhere. The weather is nearly perfect all year 
around.

Your comment about the bums is correct, but it is not as bad as in the past. 
The crime rate is down from a few years ago. My 
company is going to have our annual user meeting in SF this year for the first 
time. We have always had it in Las Vegas in the 
past. The number of people who are planning to be there is already twice what 
it was in the past. There are a lot of churches and 
religious, conservative people in San Francisco and Las Vegas. You just don't 
see that in the news. The crazies are so crazy that 
they get all the attention.


- Original Message - 
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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming


San Francisco used to be such a nice city.

San Francisco now allows marijuana to be smoked in public, allows bums to 
defecate on the sidewalk, allows homosexuals to hump in 
public, but is concerned about global warming.  LOL

How about cleaning up your open sewer first?

*
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http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


--- On Fri, 11/21/08, KAM.covad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: KAM.covad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:18 PM
 Maybe CO2 causes global cooling? Gee, maybe the temp is not
 related to CO2?

 Somewhat related: Since gas is very near $2 here in the SF
 bay area (first time in more than 5 years) the traffic is
 terrible
 again. We only got a couple of months without a crowded
 freeway.

 The SF bay area large city mayors have joined in a project
 to install thousands of electric 'filling locations'
 and battery
 exchange locations. Everyone thinks that is what is needed
 to promote the electric car. Telsa is going to build an
 electric 5
 person sedan factory in San Jose beginning next summer. It
 will get about 240 miles on a charge and is
 all\-electric. It will begin
 shipping by 2010. After the stations are installed, look
 for SF to bar non-electric cars from downtown and/or put on
 a very high
 tax.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Madigan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:34 PM
 Subject: [OT] The Killer Frost for Global Warming


 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/the-killer-frost-for-global-warming/


 Turn up the heat, somebody. The globe is freezing.
 Even Al Gore is looking for an extra blanket. Winter has
 barely come to the
 northern latitudes and already we've got bigger
 goosebumps than usual. So far the National Oceanic and
 Atmospheric Administration
 (NOAA) reports 63 record snowfalls in the United States,
 115 lowest-ever temperatures for the month. Only 44 Octobers
 over the past
 114 years have been cooler than this last one. 


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[OT] Low cost T1

2008-11-12 Thread KAM.covad
If anyone is in the market for a T1 line from Covad, I have a contact. If you 
go to their web site, the price is $399/mo minimum.
They have a non-advertised promotion on now for $299/month with a 1 year 
contract. First month and installation is free, but you
must pay $200 for the router plus tax and $30 for a 'fuel charge' for the tech 
to come out and connect the line. This is in the San
Francisco bay area so your deal might be different. The router is probably a 
Netopia. That is what Covad put on my other lines.
Netopia can be a pain to setup if you are not used to it. I have screen shots 
that I can put on a web site if anyone needs it.

If you call sales and they say you are mistaken, let me know and I will give 
you a phone number and person to call.

I have had T1 lines from Covad in the past (also ATT, PacBell and others) and 
Covad has the best support of all in my opinion. The
on-site response time on this promotion is 24 hours instead of the usual 4 
hours. I have never had to have on-site support on a T1
line. Now if I could get a T3 for $499 life would be good.



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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Be careful.

My understanding is that if you pay any person $600 or more in one calendar 
year you are required to report their SSN on a 1099. We
pay outside trainers for our software. We always get their SSN and store it in 
their vendor record. If their receipts in one year
reach $600 they get a 1099. I do not think any reporting is required for 
payments to corporations.

Of course, I believe you are allowed to give anyone $11,000 per year tax free.

We would need a tax guy to tell all the different twists on this.


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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS


But I feel it is flat out an invasion of my privacy.  If I want to pay someone 
a $20k
reward for a job well done, it is not my responsibility to make certain they
pay taxes on that amount.  I should not have to act in a suspicous or
criminal-like manner with smaller disbursements over a few weeks from
several banks to get what I want done.  Yet that is exactly what is going
on.

Gil




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Re: VFP 9 is starting off screen

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
You may have 2 monitors defined and VFP is on 'the other screen'. Right click 
on the desktop. Select properties, then settings. 
Delete the 2nd screen (unless you really have 2 screens)

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: VFP 9 is starting off screen


Howdy,

Hope this email finds you all well.

When I start VFP - 9.0 SP1 - it starts minimized.  If I right-click
and select, Restore nothing happens.  I have to select, Maximize
to get VFP to show.

Move or Size don't work either.  Is there a command to recover the screen?

Cheers,

Garry


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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of moneydeposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Almost every state has sales tax now. The states have the staff and the 
mechanism for collecting it. I am sure the Feds would want
to glom on a few hundred thousand extra unneeded people, but they would not 
need to.

On this subject, California is rolling out online reporting and paying. We have 
been paying a subcontractor accounting firm to take
our numbers and fill out the paperwork every quarter for more than 30 years. 
Last quarter, one employee in our company filled out
and paid the sales tax online in about 45 minutes. That 45 minutes included the 
setup, id password, etc. This will be a significant
savings for us every year. Also, now we can fill out the tax before the 5th of 
the month instead of barely making the deadline.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of 
moneydeposited into banks and IRS)


You would still need an IRS to collect the sales tax.

*
Barack Obama Antichrist gear

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


--- On Tue, 11/4/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it?  (was Re: Amount of money  
 deposited into banks and IRS)
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 2:29 PM
 Nicholas Geti wrote:
  That is true. It is $10,000.
 
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


 Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and
 just have a
 national sales tax.

 What are your thoughts on that?





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Fw: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of moneydeposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
It is difficult to imagine the Feds going to something as simple as sales tax 
to fund the bridge to nowhere and other necessary 
vote purchasing ventures.

Why collect from 15-20 million businesses which have no rights to privacy and 
are regulated by many laws and local zoning and other 
regulations? Businesses that are required to keep legible books and can be 
audited by any number of agencies any time. Businesses 
have workman's comp audits, sales tax audits, insurance audits, income tax 
audits, employment development department (EDD), etc. 
Businesses by definition must have cleaner records than individuals.

They would rather collect from over 150+ million individuals who have many 
rights to privacy and do not have to keep correct 
records and cannot be audited without a search warrant and can be blocked by 
lawyers.  That keeps all the accountants and lawyers 
in business.



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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of 
moneydeposited into banks and IRS)


Almost every state has sales tax now. The states have the staff and the 
mechanism for collecting it. I am sure the Feds would want
to glom on a few hundred thousand extra unneeded people, but they would not 
need to.

On this subject, California is rolling out online reporting and paying. We have 
been paying a subcontractor accounting firm to take
our numbers and fill out the paperwork every quarter for more than 30 years. 
Last quarter, one employee in our company filled out
and paid the sales tax online in about 45 minutes. That 45 minutes included the 
setup, id password, etc. This will be a significant
savings for us every year. Also, now we can fill out the tax before the 5th of 
the month instead of barely making the deadline.


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of 
moneydeposited into banks and IRS)


You would still need an IRS to collect the sales tax.

*
Barack Obama Antichrist gear

http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike


--- On Tue, 11/4/08, MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From: MB Software Solutions General Account [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it?  (was Re: Amount of money  
 deposited into banks and IRS)
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 2:29 PM
 Nicholas Geti wrote:
  That is true. It is $10,000.
 
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


 Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and
 just have a
 national sales tax.

 What are your thoughts on that?





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Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Doesn't dumb mean you can't hear? Does Sarah have a hearing aid? she seems to 
hear ok.


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Subject: Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.



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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.


 And it's clear that Sarah Palin is even dumber than them.

 HW


Yeah, you don't sound too bright either. The correct syntax is dumber than
they



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Fw: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Sorry, I mean can't talk? I guess she does talk funny, kinda like a Canadian?


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Doesn't dumb mean you can't hear? Does Sarah have a hearing aid? she seems to 
hear ok.


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Subject: Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.



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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.


 And it's clear that Sarah Palin is even dumber than them.

 HW


Yeah, you don't sound too bright either. The correct syntax is dumber than
they



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Re: [NF] RE: Printer recomendation

2008-11-03 Thread KAM.covad
We agreed with that also. I have posted here and other places about the 
outrageous price of ink for the Epson printer (we have the 
RX580). Recently we were going to trash a perfectly good printer because of the 
bad luck with cheaper inks. We really like the 
print quality, but not at that price. Our problem is that we need to print on 
CDs  DVDs and the color laser won't do that.

We read a post somewhere about this: (on eBay)
CIS CISS system for Epson R380 RX580 Rx595 Rx680 w/ ink

We figured for about $50 dollars it was worth a try. It takes about 20 minutes 
to set up. They have a youtube video and they sent 2 
CDs with video to help. So far it is wonderful. You get huge containers of each 
of the 6 ink colors. I was afraid it would clog up 
since we sometimes don't use it for a few days, but so far it has not. If it 
continues to work like it is now, this is the ultimate 
solution. You can get a bottle of ink really cheaply to refill the reserviors. 
No more fooling with those stupid little cartridges.

We have a KonicaMinolta model magicolor 2400W from Costco that works great 
after about 2 years.

We have 2 Brother MFC black/white lasers that work great after more than 2 
years. The autofeed never fails. We use them for 
scanning as well as faxing and printing. The toner is reasonable.

We tried an Okidata color laser and a Canon color laser and returned both of 
them - they were both junky printers. Funny since we 
have sold hundreds of Oki dot matrix printers over the years and they are real 
work horses. We have 2 Canon black/white lasers that 
we bought to use as default printers on networks. The auto-feed on both of them 
stopped working after about 6 months - again junky 
printers with expensive toner.


- Original Message - 
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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [NF] RE: Printer recomendation


On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep.  I'll never buy another inkjet.

For once we agree.

A+
jml


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Re: [NF] No digital TV signal?

2008-10-30 Thread KAM.covad
In fact an absolutely digital signal may not even be possible. Even in fiber 
optic cables, if you had a machine capable of
analyzing the signal, you would find that the light does not appear 
'instantly', but rather starts at a lower level than the final
'1' signal. Of course, if you go low enough, maybe the light either exists or 
it does not exist (a true digital signal). The
question is whether you could create a receiver sensitive enough to detect a 
single photon at any distance. How could you create a
single photon in a controlled manner so it could carry information? Even light 
is a 'wave' which is analog by definition. Those
pictures you see in the books with the square shapes on the 'wave' probably are 
an artist's depiction, not a picture of the actual
wave. But I could be wrong as I have not actually seen a single photon - or 
maybe I have?



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Subject: RE: [NF] No digital TV signal?


Mike just so you know, the digital signal your talking about isn't really
digital.  It is actually an 8VSB analog signal with digital data encoded in
8 subcarriers that have to synchronize as a single block to be received as
data.  You are right that there is On/Off relationship in the encoding of
the data stream (Spec. 292) that is feed into the transmitter, but that is
more or less the end of the digital part until it is received and decoder by
your receiver/TV at which time it become digital again to be processed by
decompression algorithm in the receiver and then guess what it goes back to
analog if you have a TV with a picture tube.

Good luck with the class.

Jim

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Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:09 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] No digital TV signal?

Analog signals that come in weak will be seen as fussy, or not at all.
Digital signals that come in weak will be able to be readjusted to look 100
percent perfect when initially sent out because of how digital signals are
broadcasted / made. I am studying it in networking 101 right now. With
digital, the signal is either on (1) or off (0)n therefore when the signal
is recieved, if there is any signal measuring above (zero) then it is viewed
as a on (1).

If you want me to get into the science behind the digital signals, let me
know and i will go more in depth.

Mike Wohlrab
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Charles Hart Enzer, M.D., FAACAP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:33:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NF] No digital TV signal?


You don't need a digital antenna.

The website below answered all of my questions;  especially, since my
signals come from three different compass points.

To get all of the compass points without having to turn the indoor
antenna, I got a GE Amplified Quantum Antenna #24775.

 From Froogle:

http://www.google.com/products?q=Quantum+Antenna+%2324775btnG=Search+Produc
tsscoring=p

It has three panels so I was able to capture signals from three
compass points up to 26 miles from me.

My suggestion:  try your current antenna first.

Analog drops dead at midnight on February 17, 2009.  All full-power
television stations in the United States will stop broadcasting in
analog and switch to 100% digital broadcasting.

At 10:42 PM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
Check out this website:
http://www.antennaweb.org

Enter your address (you don't need to enter your name) and it will tell
you where the closest broadcasting stations are.

I helped my neighbor hook up a large antenna inside his attic (HOA won't
let us put one on our roof) and we did some tests.  We then hooked up a
signal booster very close to the antenna (within 5') and re-tested.  The
improvement was remarkable.  These boosters need some power, but he had
an outlet in his attic that also ran his furnace.

The booster would not work as well if placed closer to his digital to
analog converter box.  Having the booster closer to the antenna is key.

HTH,
-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


Pete Theisen wrote:
  Hi Everybody!
 
  I popped 10 bucks and the government coupon for a digital TV converter.
  I hooked it all up and there is no signal. Of course, there was no
  analog reception to speak of.
 
  Aren't all the TV stations broadcasting digital by now?



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Re: [NF] No digital TV signal?

2008-10-30 Thread KAM.covad
Isn't Roswell where all that UFO stuff happened?

I remember than the first 'cable TV' in that area came from Roswell as they had 
the tallest man made tower in the world (many years
ago). They could pick up signals from Amarillo, Tx and Albuquerque, NM and 'big 
cities' like that.


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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:34 PM
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Jerry Wolper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 don't you need a digital antenna too?

 No. The bowtie/halo part of the antenna should get the digital signal
 that's broadcast on UHF. It's an all-or-nothing proposition, though.
 Weak signals that came in poorly in analog won't come in at all
 digitally.
---

Well it is all on the location of the towers.  If the new digital ones
are closer it will be better.  My dad found that the digital reception
was much better than the traditional because the digital towers were
close to his house and the old ones were on the other side of town.
Roswell NM.

-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

901.246-0159


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Re: VFP9-Shut routine

2008-10-29 Thread KAM.covad
There are times that none of these suggestions will work. Someone in this list 
posted the solution some time ago. I have been using
it since. What you need is to compile these 2 lines of code:

Declare ExitProcess in Win32API Long
ExitProcess(1)

What I did is put the resulting file named: quitnow.fxp in c:\temp

Then when you get that message and have no way out, type do c:\temp\quitnow in 
the command window. This will always work. At least
I have never seen it fail.




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Subject: Re: VFP9-Shut routine


Sytze de Boer wrote:
 I'm obviously getting too old for this

 In my error routine, I do a bunch of things, but I offer the client to
 simply quit the program
 It goes like this

 on shutdown
 clear events
 close data
 quit

 It gives me   Cannot quit Visual Foxpro

 I cannot figure why
 Please help me out


Sounds like a modal state left somewhere.  CLEAR EVENTS?



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Re: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7

2008-10-29 Thread KAM.covad
We just took delivery of 2 desktop 64bit Vista 4gb memory, etc,etc. We had to 
get them because we have more clients getting them. 
The first thing we noticed is that there is no support for dos programs. We 
still have more than 1000 licensed users with our FPD26 
version. There are some 3rd party utilities available and one of our support 
guys got one to work, but it is complex to set up and 
we don't know what it might do to a client's computer or other installed 
programs. Anyone have any feedback on this?

The other thing we noticed was expected. It runs slower than a Win2000 P3 
computer with 256 mb memory



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Subject: Re: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7


I'm underwhelmed. LOL




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 Sorry, no tinyurl today. Hope everyone enjoys.

 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/pitogo/385356_msftwindows29.html
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Re: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7

2008-10-29 Thread KAM.covad
Yes, if you only looked at the specs you would think it was a game machine. 
But it runs like a snail.

If you put 2 gb memory on a Win2000 machine it will run 10 times faster (my 
guess).

I think a lot of our clients would go to Linux, but we would have to support 
everything. I wish someone would come out with a fully
loaded machine that has Linux, email, office, etc. Then I wish we could get all 
our VFP9 software converted to Dabo. I think it
would work, but it is a scary step when everything works like it is. We have a 
million lines of code with all those little 'fixes'
that only come after your software has been used by a thousand clients over 10 
years. We did that when we converted from FPD26 to
VFP6. That seemed impossible, and it was, but we eventually got it working. We 
would never go back.

We need some other large, well capitalized company to break the ice, prove the 
concept and make it so we could recommend it.



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 The other thing we noticed was expected. It runs slower than a Win2000 P3 
 computer with 256 mb memory

Really? And this was a Vista-badged machine with appropriate specs? I
hear the GPU requirements are very high.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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Re: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7

2008-10-29 Thread KAM.covad
All this reminds me of those 'old wives tales' about the 1st keyboard being 
designed so that the women who worked with them could
not type so fast that they would hurt themselves. Just looking out for the 
little ladies, they were.

Maybe M$ is afraid that we will be able to get so much work done with all that 
memory that it is their duty to drag the thing down
with redundant software. They probably have a blind loop that does nothing for 
1/2 second every time you touch the keyboard or some
other great innovation. After all, what idiot would pay that much for a small 
fast, efficient operating system. Linux is the
answer. People would not want to pay at all.

What the hell could be going on in a 64 bit, 4gb memory machine to make it run 
that slowly? The truth is Vista is crap. They should
name it Crapsta. Come and get your Crapsta. The future is here and the future 
is crap.



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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7


It's called progress?G

John Harvey


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Of geoff
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:24 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7

Ive got 2G on each of my 2 Vista laptops. Fast they aint. Anyone
remember windows 95 on 8Mb? why do we suddenly need 250times as much
Ram to get a slower operating system? I just think an OS should get
out of the way of applications. noone buys an OS for itself (I hop).
They buy it for the applications that run on it. I cant find a single
reason to upgrade from XP excepting the total lack of choice my
laptops gave me.

At 12:48 PM 30/10/2008, you wrote:
Yeah, I guess I could try running on 256m, or even using a 14.4
modem...G I've got 2 gig of ram on my notebook, and it's pretty fast. I
think you might have a better experience if you ramped up on the ram. I
hear
it's actually pretty cheap these days.

John Harvey


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Of geoff
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:07 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7

Its never crashed on me either. but nor does it ever connect to my
network easily. nor does it run fast. Try and 'run' it on 256Mb. Try
and run a foxpro app that might do some of the naughty things vista
no longer permits - like putting borders around forms! Nope. Vista is crap.

At 12:16 PM 30/10/2008, you wrote:
 I've had no problems with Vista. I've never had a crash and my laptop is
 ALWAYS on.
 
 John Harvey
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 Of geoff
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:34 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7
 
 The thing that shocked me about WInXp when i first loaded it way back
 when was that it ran faster and far more stable than win 98. it was a
 genuine step forward. Can you say the same about Vista? giant
 headache and a step backwards. Looks nice tho. (big deal)
 
 At 11:04 AM 30/10/2008, you wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:46 PM, KAM.covad
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We just took delivery of 2 desktop 64bit Vista 4gb memory,
   etc,etc. We had to get them because we have more clients getting them.
  
  Bummer.
  
The first thing we noticed is that there is no support for dos
   programs. We still have more than 1000 licensed users with our FPD26
version. There are some 3rd party utilities available and one of
   our support guys got one to work, but it is complex to set up and
we don't know what it might do to a client's computer or other
   installed programs. Anyone have any feedback on this?
  
  I would look at setting up a virtual machine and install something
  like FreeDOS (http://www.freedos.org/) into it, and see if I could get
  FPD running in there.
  
  Of course, I'd rather try this under Ubuntu or CentOS or Fedora or...
  well, anything else. You might want to consider getting your DOS
  clients to either considering upgrading to a Windows version or
  dedicating a machine to really run DOS.
  
The other thing we noticed was expected. It runs slower than a
   Win2000 P3 computer with 256 mb memory
  
  Really? And this was a Vista-badged machine with appropriate specs? I
  hear the GPU requirements are very high.
  
  --
  Ted Roche
  Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
  http://www.tedroche.com
  
  
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Re: [OT] Countdown: Palin Wants To Help Special Needs Kids By DoingAway With Science

2008-10-26 Thread KAM.covad
I think Darwin had it backward. I think god created humans. Yes, I am a 
creationist.

The humans inter-marry (you know brother marry sister, etc) and the resulting 
recessive traits result in lower animals and
eventually when they could not go any lower they evolved into broccoli. From 
broccoli we get corn and wheat so the humans who
survive can have something besides their cousins to eat.


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Helio Wakasugui wrote:
 C'mon Bob, don't be silly.

 BTW, are you a creationist?

Hi Helio!

There are some ultra religious persons who ask such questions as if it
were a black/white yes/no answer sort of thing. In fact, God may have
created the ancient world and all of its creatures, intending for them
to evolve and mutate into greater biodiversity. He may also have
intended for some of them to become extinct.

In this respect, the ultra religious and atheist have much in common.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/


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[NF] FTP server connected to a client that is behind a stainless steel domain/firewall/agressive IT staff

2008-10-25 Thread KAM.covad
I have a standard FTP server (slimftp) installed with Apache2triad that works 
great with all ftp clients we have tried. However, we
have some clients who are working on workstations that are locked down tight. 
They have ports 80, 81 and 443 open so they can
access the internet and download some files by http. They are limited to the 
size of an attachment for sending files to us. It
would take an act of congress to open a port and it is not going to happen. 
They use 81 for ftp somehow.

Has anyone accomplished a workaround? packet relay? I know there is a way to do 
it. I have googled and cannot seem to find a way to
do it although there are a lot of hits with 'ftp behind firewall'.




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Re: [NF] Open Office v. M$O

2008-10-25 Thread KAM.covad
We use 2.4.1 and it works fine. We are interested in upgrading but have not yet 
tried it.


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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ to push out Vista replacement in mid 2009


On that front, has anyone played with OO.o V3.0 and it's ability to read
Office 2007 documents?  I haven't upgraded yet as I have trained most
people with Office 2007 to send me *.doc and *.xls files. eg  OO.o
consumes those just fine.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


David Smith wrote:
 Sometimes I think those sort of changes were done primarily as a response to
 the rise of OpenOffice, to differentiate their product from Sun's. A new
 look is a good way to help people feel better about tossing down new money
 as well. The ribbon concept is good, but I think they dropped the ball by
 not making it optional and they certainly didn't make it easy to program for
 in Visual Studio. I also think they made an mistake defaulting to the new .x
 formats ( docs, xlsx and so on) in Office. I get the xml concept and think
 it's a brilliant idea, but they would have done better to not instantly
 abandon a format with a decade+ of history and user comfort.

 Thanks,
 Dave



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Re: [NF] M$ to push out Vista replacement in mid 2009

2008-10-25 Thread KAM.covad
We have a different experience. For example, we have 2 Acer Aspire 7520-5071 
Vista laptops bought with the same order, same store, 
same everything (at least that is what we ordered). Delivered in the same 
packing box. They look the same, etc. But they have a 
different log on screen? One will play a DVD when inserted, but no sound. The 
other will not play that same DVD unless you play 
around and click a hundred things - no sound either. The sound works with other 
programs. Our VFP9 software is the only thing that 
will install and run, no problem (thank goodness for that small favor). Vista 
is crap. We were able to share the C: drive so other 
workstations on the network can access it, no problem. However, after almost a 
year, we still have not been able to access other 
workstations from the Vista lap tops. Vista is crap. I am sure (I think) we 
could figure it out, but we have other things to do. 
What a joy to quit fooling around with Vista and sit down and work on a Win2000 
computer. Win2000 is the last worth-a-shit OS from 
M$. Someone at M$ is laughing at all the fools out there in the real world who 
are forced to pay for their garbage. I'll bet Win7 
will not work at all. They will see if anyone figures it out. If they deliver 
it with a 'XP downgrade', no one will complain and 
they can close down the RD section and give bonuses to the sales staff since 
they are the only ones doing anything anymore. They 
can keep 3 or 4 programmers for show. They can play ball in the parking lot.


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Subject: Re: [NF] M$ to push out Vista replacement in mid 2009


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:39 AM, David Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sometimes I think those sort of changes were done primarily as a response to
 the rise of OpenOffice, to differentiate their product from Sun's. A new
 look is a good way to help people feel better about tossing down new money
 as well. The ribbon concept is good, but I think they dropped the ball by
 not making it optional and they certainly didn't make it easy to program for
 in Visual Studio. I also think they made an mistake defaulting to the new .x
 formats ( docs, xlsx and so on) in Office. I get the xml concept and think
 it's a brilliant idea, but they would have done better to not instantly
 abandon a format with a decade+ of history and user comfort.


Once you get over the it is different you find that it is better.
The older version of the supporting tools got stronger in the control
you have in the newer offerings from M$.

I am curious, did Win95 give you the same problems and taking on that
GUI word processor over WP.

I have been running Vista for 2 months now and find that I don't
notice it.  For an OS that is a good thing right?  I turn on my laptop
and it runs.  It am connected to the network and switching between
various wireless is straight forward.

What I install works.  The presentation or view I have of my screen is
much more crisp and the graphics kick ass over prior versions in the
DISPLAY.  For as many hours as I spent in purchase of a big screen TV
I know for a fact that DISPLAY is pretty damn important to a lot of
people instead of just myself.

All my software seems to load in just fine on it.  My printers are not
that old and they seem to work through a network to an XP machine at
home or to the network at the various clients I have.

After the new year I'll be a little interested in checking out Win7 to
see what it is better at.

I did put Vista on a new laptop that has 2 gig of ram and a standard
cpu for today.

Do I think that the newer layout of everything from M$ is a sin?  I
find that I can find more of what I MAY want to tweak when I now have
the tool ribbon open then just the older menus.  There is a lot more
presentation on what you can do, as well as a visual clue as to that
that will look like before you commit it. Speaking about Word here.
-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

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Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-02 Thread KAM.covad
You are referring to Vista?

Paul McNett wrote:
I think many in geekdom look to add complexity for no good reason



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VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-01 Thread KAM.covad
This project was loading normally, a few seconds until a week ago. Now it takes 
more than 3 minutes. After it does finally load, 
everything seems to be fine.

Is there a way to trace through the loading process so I could see where it is 
hanging?

Any ideas?




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Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-01 Thread KAM.covad
We don't use source control on this project. The files are on a Win2003 file 
server and the XP SP2 workstation is accessing it.
There have been no network or other hardware, OS, etc changes in almost a year. 
Every other function seems to work fine, such as
copying files across the network, etc.


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Is the project in Source control? We noticed a difference between Anti-Virus
providers. Trend Micro opens a project in 7 to 9 seconds. Where Kapersky
took 132 seconds on average. This is a project in Source Safe in the IDE.

Tracy

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:39 PM

This project was loading normally, a few seconds until a week ago. Now it
takes more than 3 minutes. After it does finally load, everything seems to
be fine.

Is there a way to trace through the loading process so I could see where it
is hanging?

Any ideas?



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Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-01 Thread KAM.covad
The problem is in development mode. Type 'Modify project xyz' Usually, the 
project would be visible in a few seconds max.


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Subject: Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?


The coverage profiler can be your friend here.

IF FILE(debugmode.txt)
  SET COVERAGE TO Startup.log
ENDIF
 Now, do your startup routine up to just before the first menu, form
is displayed
SET COVERAGE TO

Then use the coverage profiler to open up Startup.log and look at what's
taking so darn long.

-Kevin
CULLY Technologies, LLC


KAM.covad wrote:
 This project was loading normally, a few seconds until a week ago. Now it 
 takes more than 3 minutes. After it does finally load,
 everything seems to be fine.

 Is there a way to trace through the loading process so I could see where it 
 is hanging?

 Any ideas?




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Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-01 Thread KAM.covad
We have 2 backups.
1. We backup the entire drive with Acronis daily
2. select folders using a batch file which is driven by HandyBackup (We don't 
use the backup features of handy backup because we
found that if files were open, it would skip and would not report it - our 
batch file uses XCOPY with Errorlevel and will loop
forever until you fix the problem) We discovered this by accident when we 
needed to restore a critical file and found it was on
several backups but not on the day we really wanted. I doubt we will ever trust 
another backup program without some kind of brute
force method of checking every file to be sure the backup really worked.

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Paul McNett wrote:
 KAM.covad wrote:
 We don't use source control on this project.

 Whoa.


Ken,

What method do you use as an alternative?  Backups nightly?





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Re: VFP9 SP1 taking more than 3 minutes to load a project?

2008-10-01 Thread KAM.covad
Thanks for all the great suggestions. I finally stripped as many things out of 
the startup as possible and then add them back one
at a time.

I think I found the problem. I have been opening firefox with the feature 'open 
all in tabs' - this automatically opened 12 web
sites. This consumed over 150,000K of my 2gb and killed the performance. After 
closing Firefox and deleting it from the task
manager, the performance is now back to normal. I had no idea that Firefox 
would do that. I am using v2.0.0.17


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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:09 PM
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I had exactly the same some months ago
I changed the AV program and it solved the issue. Full stop


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:38 AM, KAM.covad [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 This project was loading normally, a few seconds until a week ago. Now it
 takes more than 3 minutes. After it does finally load,
 everything seems to be fine.

 Is there a way to trace through the loading process so I could see where it
 is hanging?

 Any ideas?




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Re: [OT] financial crisis - was Sarah Pailn

2008-09-16 Thread KAM.covad
It has nothing to do with politics. Money was loaned to people without any 
consideration of whether they could pay it back. What do
you think will happen? We need some kind of regulation that prevents a loan 
from being resold unless the borrower has at least 20%
down payment invested. That would limit the failure to the specific financial 
institution that loaned the money. Sure, there are
some people who will default after putting down 20% or more, but they are 
probably limited to people who lose their job or some
kind of event like that.

Those 'loans' were packaged up into some kind of 'bond' and sold as 'gold'. 
Then many of those 'bonds' were packaged into larger
'bonds' and sold to other financial institutions, this went on over and over so 
that there was something like $1 actual value for
every $40 'bond'. There is no telling how deep this goes. The only good thing 
that anyone can say is that some of those loans are
good and will be repaid. The problem is that no one knows what is good and what 
is bad.



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On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, John wrote:

 Worry not, God is always in control

So *that's* who is responsible for the current financial mess. And
here I thought it was the idiots extending credit to the credit-
unworthy!


-- Ed Leafe





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Re: [OT] Programmer's day

2008-09-12 Thread KAM.covad
A programmer drinking and acting silly? That must be fiction.

Coding silly programs? That is ridiculous and impossible.

Next you will suggest that a programmer could have bugs in programs.

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Eurico Chagas Filho wrote:
 Programmer's day is a whimsical holiday on the 256th day of the year
 celebrated mostly by computer programmers (reason: 256 = 2 to the power of 8
 = the number of values representable in a byte of data). Traditions include
 drinking, behaving silly, coding silly programs, mini computer games,
 playing with old computers, etc. Programmer's day usually falls on September
 13th; on leap years, it is September 12th.

 E.

Oh, goodness.  I could never drink and act silly.  Oh wait.  I'm already
celebrating it, without even knowing about it!


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Re: Speed issues - multiuser application

2008-09-04 Thread KAM.covad
All the responses are good. You will always get better performance with one 
user, that is a given. But I have installations with as 
many as 80 simultaneous users with VFP9 SP1. Actually over 250 but I don't 
think more than 80-90 ever connect at the same time, 
probably only 20-30 active, even heavy data entry users. Many users require a 
dedicated server with a lot of memory. When you get 
more than 10, you need to consider using terminal services on dedicated servers 
which access the data on a separate dedicated 
server. If you play with it, you can make a system with as good performance as 
you see on those 'very large distributed 
applications' out there. At some point you have to realize that too many 
simultaneous users, too much simultaneous data transfer 
will force you into a different database solution. Be sure that  your user 
interface uses only views, no direct table updates. 
Reports with direct table updates will kill the performance, even with 2 users 
on the most powerful hardware. Fox hogs all the 
memory it can get. That is how it performs. It can work for you or against you 
depending on your design.



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Gil Hale wrote:
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 All that said, the difference in performance on the P75 machines was
 noticeable in terms of a few seconds (like 3 seconds instead of 1 second for
 some processes).  I never saw multi-user access result in a
 seconds-become-minutes impact.  You aren't running under Vista are you g.
 How punchy is the File Server (CPU, RAM, LAN i/o speed).  Are you running on
 a switched LAN connection, or a hub?  Are you sharing that switch/hub with a
 data intense device (Exchange Server)?  How big are the tables in terms of
 records?  Are you doing direct table hits, or using parameterized (and
 optimized) views?


Piggybacking on Gil's comments---grab data only when you need it.  Avoid
senseless queries pulling data over the wire that you don't need.


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Re: VFP9 SP1 vfpencryption.flll problem

2008-09-02 Thread KAM.covad
What is the 71 version?

For now, I am using the cypher50 version that is on many FTP sites including 
the Leafe site. It does not have AES 256, but I don't
have any government secrets to protect.




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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:55 AM
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My advice is to use the 71 version. The other version relies on hard to find
runtimes. The 71 has a good change of runtimes already being there and
anyway is only 2 dll's.
Allen

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Subject: VFP9 SP1 vfpencryption.flll problem

I am using VFP9 SP1

vfpencryption.fll was recommended by someone on this list. I have been
working with it and found it to be very good.

Today, I tried to use it on Windows 2003 server and I get API error. I
installed the C++ libraries that are needed and it still does not work. the
vfpconnection.fll works fine. Anyone have a work around?




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Re: [NF] Whither Firefox 3?? Google browser?

2008-09-02 Thread KAM.covad
I haven't seen any mention of the Google browser?


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Subject: [NF] Whither Firefox 3??


Hi, folks -- - --- -

Sorta back from an extended family vacation - - trying to work my way
through the 719,053-item to do list from my main current client...

Quick question: when FireFox 3 first came out, many of you said
Wait -- that there were still issues to be resolved. Have there
been patches? I believe some of you said some of the key odd-ons
(like the developers' toolbar) hadn't caught up with the new version
yet?

How about now? Any downside to upgrading? OTOH, are there any
compelling reasons to do the upgrade, even if there are still some
issues?

Thanks,

Ken


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