Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[MB Software Solutions]

Stephen the Cook wrote:
> I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
> no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
> organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
> business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
> share the knowledge.  
>
> When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.
>   

Who's "IP" ?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[vbiersch]

I got called back to vegas for a similar situation

they actually do a good job asking the right questions

however that said it is real hard for them to come in to  a turf war and get 
the true scenario as usually the business stakeholders will send a yes man 
because in their mind they are too busy to be bothered by such unimportant stuff

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Kristyne McDaniel <> wrote:
> Michael,
> 
>> Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to
>> India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.
> 
> Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and
> unemployment and a reprieve while the house is under construction (no
> mortgage payments), and now I have a new contract with an old client.
> 
> Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything
> is fine. :-) 

I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
share the knowledge.  

When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who
can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Stephen the Cook]

Kristyne McDaniel <> wrote:
> Michael,
> 
>> Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to
>> India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.
> 
> Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and
> unemployment and a reprieve while the house is under construction (no
> mortgage payments), and now I have a new contract with an old client.
> 
> Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything
> is fine. :-) 

I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
share the knowledge.  

When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who
can do them absolutely no good." ---Unknown

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Chet Gardiner]

My job in '03 was lost to India...best pay I ever had for a j.o.b.



MB Software Solutions wrote:

>Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
>  
>
>>The fine print was on the company's web site, and not in the stuff I got on
>>'separation' day. I printed it to a PDF to save it. The conversion to the
>>retirement medical plan was restricted to those that were involuntarily laid
>>off, and did not apply to folks that quit. Since my job was farmed out to
>>India, I meet the requirements.
>>  
>>
>>
>
>Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
>India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.
>
>  
>


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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Rodney Dixon]

Chattanooga is not too bad either.

Regards
Rodney

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> 
> Yep.  We loved Nashville.
> 
> --- Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I sure you just mean Memphis, and not the rest of
> > the great state of TN
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> > Regards
> > Rodney
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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David Crooks wrote:
> Yeah, they get around on horse and buggy.  I guess you could say they
> are pretty good at getting around! :-)
>
> My told me about some study of far the Amish walk and it was pretty
> amazing.  You won't see too many fat Amish folks!
>   

The mature women perhaps...but then again, who isn't a little overweight 
anymore?

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[David Crooks]

On Monday, January 29, 2007 11:42 AM Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

>We're pretty good at getting around..
>Hell, I may have kinfolk up that way...

>I know I had lots of fun in new england  

Yeah, they get around on horse and buggy.  I guess you could say they
are pretty good at getting around! :-)

My told me about some study of far the Amish walk and it was pretty
amazing.  You won't see too many fat Amish folks!

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Virgil Bierschwale]

We're pretty good at getting around..
Hell, I may have kinfolk up that way...

I know I had lots of fun in new england  


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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen 
>
>   

Then you should be living here in PA with the rest of the cement-headed
Dutchmen.  

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen 
>
>   

Then you should be living here in PA with the rest of the cement-headed 
Dutchmen.  

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Thanks..
They will because I'm a persistent SOB and too stupid to know when to give
up.
Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen 

Virgil Bierschwale
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Virgil,

> Glad to hear that. 

For a while there I was getting pretty worried. If Steve hadn't sold two
litters of puppies in the last few weeks it would have been worse. But now I
have a reprieve. So I have to make the best use of that reprieve that I can.

I hope that your ventures bear fruit soon as well.

Kristyne McDaniel
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Virgil,

> Glad to hear that. 

For a while there I was getting pretty worried. If Steve hadn't sold two
litters of puppies in the last few weeks it would have been worse. But now I
have a reprieve. So I have to make the best use of that reprieve that I can.

I hope that your ventures bear fruit soon as well.

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Glad to hear that. 


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Michael,

> Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
> India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and unemployment and
a reprieve while the house is under construction (no mortgage payments), and
now I have a new contract with an old client.

Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything is
fine. :-)

Kristyne McDaniel
http://www.mcstyles.com
http://www.shamrocktrails.com




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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Michael,

> Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
> India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and unemployment and
a reprieve while the house is under construction (no mortgage payments), and
now I have a new contract with an old client.

Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything is
fine. :-)

Kristyne McDaniel
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> The fine print was on the company's web site, and not in the stuff I got on
> 'separation' day. I printed it to a PDF to save it. The conversion to the
> retirement medical plan was restricted to those that were involuntarily laid
> off, and did not apply to folks that quit. Since my job was farmed out to
> India, I meet the requirements.
>   

Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Dave,

> It's a hospital "superbug" that basically is resistant to 
> antibiotics so it kills you

We were told it was MRSA, but it is still a superbug. Steve got it after the
flesh eating bacteria nearly killed him. He spent 7 weeks on a very strong
IV antibiotic before it was finally killed. Now he's much more vulnerable
than other people to infection, and that's why he kept getting pneumonia.
His immune system was compromised from the 1-2 punch of flesh eating
bacteria and then the hospital superbug.

They reserve certain 'super' antibiotics just for use with these killer
infections in the hopes that they can keep bacteria from becoming too
resistant to them. Still, managing 7 weeks of a huge bag of IV medication
dumped into a PIC line that went straight into Steve's aorta 1" from his
heart was pretty scary.
 These
superbugs are nothing to laugh at.

And it didn't help that he had an open heart surgery before it all happened,
and that he was an asthmatic. This has been quite a ride over the last
decade or so with his fragile immune system, fragile lungs, and fragile
heart. The years since 2000 have been especially challenging.

The house will be done in about 3 months, though, and I have a new contract
with an old client. We keep on keeping on. The new house is at a 2100 foot
elevation in a spot with clean air, and we have a good air filtration system
going into the house. Plus Steve is on an oxygen concentrator full time now.
He has COPD .

But he is OK for now and will be OK for some time to come as long as he is
well taken care of. He is no longer in any immediate danger of death, and
for that I am grateful.

Kristyne McDaniel
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Madigan,

> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
> Cobra runs out the end of February.

Read through all of your company's fine print before you make your decision.
I found that if I do not accept another J.O.B. that I can move onto the EDS
retirement medical plan after COBRA runs out. It is not free -- you have to
pay for it -- but the retirement medical plan lasts forever as long as I
don't take a J.O.B. again.

The fine print was on the company's web site, and not in the stuff I got on
'separation' day. I printed it to a PDF to save it. The conversion to the
retirement medical plan was restricted to those that were involuntarily laid
off, and did not apply to folks that quit. Since my job was farmed out to
India, I meet the requirements.

Kristyne McDaniel
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

Oh, inhabitants of the UK are "people" now? LOL


--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> 
> 
> 
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> I sure you just mean Memphis, and not the rest of
> the great state of TN
> 
> Regards
> Rodney
> 
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> > Europe is a step up over Memphis.   Darfur is a
> step
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Adam Buckland]

Sure he means the whole lot, the more people Michael can insult at a time the 
better.




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I sure you just mean Memphis, and not the rest of the great state of TN

Regards
Rodney

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> Europe is a step up over Memphis.   Darfur is a step
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

I see, so the same government who can't win the war in
Iraq will now be able to give away healthcare
efficiently.


--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We have a bill in Congress right now - HR676 - that
> would give us this too.
> 
> Too bad we're too f*ckin ignorant as a nation to get
> it passed...
> 
> Alan Lukachko wrote:
> 
> >If you want to move to Ontario, the provincial
> government provides you with
> >one of the best health care systems in the world.
> The most you will pay is
> >about $900 per year and that's if you earn $150,000
> or more. 
> >
> >It doesn't cover elective surgery like cosmetic
> plastic surgery or
> >liposuction or prescription drugs or dental care
> and some eye care.
> >
> >It pays for visits to doctors, emergency room and
> hospital stays. It covers
> >life threatening surgery and provides semi-private
> hospital rooms (2 to 4
> >beds per room).
> >
> >>From age 65 on, no premium is paid. Also at that
> point, most drugs are
> >provided at no cost.
> >
> >Contrary to hyped media reports, wait times are
> reasonable. My brother in
> >law is a heart surgeon. He says most heart
> operations are done within 6
> >weeks and the survival rate is fairly high. My
> mother had to have a heart
> >operation. From the time of diagnosis until the
> operation took place, it was
> >about 3 weeks. No cost to my mom.
> >
> >When my wife had chest pains, I took her to the
> hospital in Thunder Bay. As
> >soon as she said she had chest pains, within 2
> minutes she was whisked away
> >and quickly hooked up to an ECG heart monitor. They
> kept her overnight and
> >did 3 tests over 24 hours. She was OK. Again no
> cost.
> >
> >When we went out west to Alberta, she again had
> chest pains. I took her to
> >the hospital. No sooner had she spoke about chest
> pains, the triage nurse
> >immediately came from behind the desk, put her in a
> wheelchair, wheeled her
> >into emergency and hooked her up to the ECG
> monitor. Another nurse asked me
> >for details and health card. I provided the nurse
> with her OHIP (Ontario
> >health care) card. They accepted the Ontario card
> for health care in
> >Alberta. All Canadian provinces recognize each
> other's health cards. 
> >
> >She stayed overnight and had the same 3 types of
> test as in Ontario. They
> >even provided dinner and breakfast. She was OK. No
> cost to us. 
> >
> >And people who live in Alberta don't even have to
> pay a premium. They get
> >the same level of health care in all Canadian
> provinces.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >Of Michael Madigan
> >Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:34 PM
> >To: profox@leafe.com
> >Subject: [NF] Medical insurance
> >
> >Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
> >Cobra runs out the end of February.
> >
> >
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

Yep.  We loved Nashville.  

--- Rodney Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I sure you just mean Memphis, and not the rest of
> the great state of TN
> 
> Regards
> Rodney
> 
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> > Europe is a step up over Memphis.   Darfur is a
> step
> > up over Memphis. LOL
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Chet Gardiner]

We have a bill in Congress right now - HR676 - that would give us this too.

Too bad we're too f*ckin ignorant as a nation to get it passed...

Alan Lukachko wrote:

>If you want to move to Ontario, the provincial government provides you with
>one of the best health care systems in the world. The most you will pay is
>about $900 per year and that's if you earn $150,000 or more. 
>
>It doesn't cover elective surgery like cosmetic plastic surgery or
>liposuction or prescription drugs or dental care and some eye care.
>
>It pays for visits to doctors, emergency room and hospital stays. It covers
>life threatening surgery and provides semi-private hospital rooms (2 to 4
>beds per room).
>
>>From age 65 on, no premium is paid. Also at that point, most drugs are
>provided at no cost.
>
>Contrary to hyped media reports, wait times are reasonable. My brother in
>law is a heart surgeon. He says most heart operations are done within 6
>weeks and the survival rate is fairly high. My mother had to have a heart
>operation. From the time of diagnosis until the operation took place, it was
>about 3 weeks. No cost to my mom.
>
>When my wife had chest pains, I took her to the hospital in Thunder Bay. As
>soon as she said she had chest pains, within 2 minutes she was whisked away
>and quickly hooked up to an ECG heart monitor. They kept her overnight and
>did 3 tests over 24 hours. She was OK. Again no cost.
>
>When we went out west to Alberta, she again had chest pains. I took her to
>the hospital. No sooner had she spoke about chest pains, the triage nurse
>immediately came from behind the desk, put her in a wheelchair, wheeled her
>into emergency and hooked her up to the ECG monitor. Another nurse asked me
>for details and health card. I provided the nurse with her OHIP (Ontario
>health care) card. They accepted the Ontario card for health care in
>Alberta. All Canadian provinces recognize each other's health cards. 
>
>She stayed overnight and had the same 3 types of test as in Ontario. They
>even provided dinner and breakfast. She was OK. No cost to us. 
>
>And people who live in Alberta don't even have to pay a premium. They get
>the same level of health care in all Canadian provinces.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>Of Michael Madigan
>Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:34 PM
>To: profox@leafe.com
>Subject: [NF] Medical insurance
>
>Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
>Cobra runs out the end of February.
>
>
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Chet Gardiner]

Call your Congresspeople and urge them to get on board with HR676...

Then, we'll all have coverage...

(And yes, this is DEFINITELY on-topic)...

Michael Madigan wrote:

>Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
>Cobra runs out the end of February.
>
>
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Rodney Dixon]

I sure you just mean Memphis, and not the rest of the great state of TN

Regards
Rodney

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> Europe is a step up over Memphis.   Darfur is a step
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kevin Cully]

Blue Cross Blue Shield of Georgia

mrgmhale wrote:
> Who is your insurance carrier?
> 
> Gil
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Cully
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:00 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance
>>
>>
>> As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
>> relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
>> Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
>> exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
>> over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.
>>
>> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
>> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
>> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
>> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> I'm in NJ.
>>>
>>> --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?
>>>> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
>>>>
>>>> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
>>>> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
>>>> live in the state of Michigan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> White Light Computing, Inc.
>>>>
>>>> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>>>> www.rickschummer.com
>>>> 586.254.2530 - office
>>>> 586.254.2539 - fax
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>>>>
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[mrgmhale]

Who is your insurance carrier?

Gil

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Cully
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance
>
>
> As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
> relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
> Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
> exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
> over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.
>
> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I'm in NJ.
> >
> > --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?
> >> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
> >>
> >> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
> >> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
> >> live in the state of Michigan.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> White Light Computing, Inc.
> >>
> >> www.whitelightcomputing.com
> >> www.rickschummer.com
> >> 586.254.2530 - office
> >> 586.254.2539 - fax
> >>
> >>
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Alan Lukachko]

If you want to move to Ontario, the provincial government provides you with
one of the best health care systems in the world. The most you will pay is
about $900 per year and that's if you earn $150,000 or more. 

It doesn't cover elective surgery like cosmetic plastic surgery or
liposuction or prescription drugs or dental care and some eye care.

It pays for visits to doctors, emergency room and hospital stays. It covers
life threatening surgery and provides semi-private hospital rooms (2 to 4
beds per room).

>From age 65 on, no premium is paid. Also at that point, most drugs are
provided at no cost.

Contrary to hyped media reports, wait times are reasonable. My brother in
law is a heart surgeon. He says most heart operations are done within 6
weeks and the survival rate is fairly high. My mother had to have a heart
operation. From the time of diagnosis until the operation took place, it was
about 3 weeks. No cost to my mom.

When my wife had chest pains, I took her to the hospital in Thunder Bay. As
soon as she said she had chest pains, within 2 minutes she was whisked away
and quickly hooked up to an ECG heart monitor. They kept her overnight and
did 3 tests over 24 hours. She was OK. Again no cost.

When we went out west to Alberta, she again had chest pains. I took her to
the hospital. No sooner had she spoke about chest pains, the triage nurse
immediately came from behind the desk, put her in a wheelchair, wheeled her
into emergency and hooked her up to the ECG monitor. Another nurse asked me
for details and health card. I provided the nurse with her OHIP (Ontario
health care) card. They accepted the Ontario card for health care in
Alberta. All Canadian provinces recognize each other's health cards. 

She stayed overnight and had the same 3 types of test as in Ontario. They
even provided dinner and breakfast. She was OK. No cost to us. 

And people who live in Alberta don't even have to pay a premium. They get
the same level of health care in all Canadian provinces.


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Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:34 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] Medical insurance

Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
Cobra runs out the end of February.


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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

Europe is a step up over Memphis.   Darfur is a step
up over Memphis. LOL



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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

I hear the dentistry in England is first rate. LMAO


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> No on second thoughts DON'T.
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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Rick Schummer wrote:
> ROFL - Oh, you were serious. 
>
> Maybe it is different in PA than MI, but most doctors I have visited are 
> interested in treating the
> patient, not healing them. In priority order billable visits and tests, what 
> drugs the can push
> based on bribes from the drug companies, and then maybe addressing the 
> illness. There are naturally
> exceptions.
>
> And don't even get me started on their billing structures. We paid $5000 a 
> day when my daughter was
> hospitalized last summer. All I saw was the invoice without any detail. 
> Seriously. My clients would
> throw a fit if I provide them an invoice for good money without explanation. 
> Explanation of benefit
> forms are one of the most confusing and useless forms I have read.
>
> For independents like me, who get the least coverage for the money it only 
> brings more stress to an
> already stressful lifestyle.
>   
Holy cow...that sure makes me appreciate not having to do that (yet).


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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Rick Schummer]

>>I figured they didn't really notice the billing part but left that to the 
>>office staff (i.e., I
figured they only focused on your care). <<

ROFL - Oh, you were serious. 

Maybe it is different in PA than MI, but most doctors I have visited are 
interested in treating the
patient, not healing them. In priority order billable visits and tests, what 
drugs the can push
based on bribes from the drug companies, and then maybe addressing the illness. 
There are naturally
exceptions.

And don't even get me started on their billing structures. We paid $5000 a day 
when my daughter was
hospitalized last summer. All I saw was the invoice without any detail. 
Seriously. My clients would
throw a fit if I provide them an invoice for good money without explanation. 
Explanation of benefit
forms are one of the most confusing and useless forms I have read.

For independents like me, who get the least coverage for the money it only 
brings more stress to an
already stressful lifestyle.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.rickschummer.com
586.254.2530 - office
586.254.2539 - fax
  


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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 09:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance

Kevin Cully wrote:
> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to 
> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn 
> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
>   
Wow!  I'm surprised to hear that.  I figured they didn't really notice the 
billing part but left
that to the office staff (i.e., I figured they only focused on your care).


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[OT] Superbug (was Re: [NF] Medical insurance)

[MB Software Solutions]

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Michael,
>
> It's a hospital "superbug" that basically is resistant to antibiotics so it
> kills you
>
> Dave Crozier
>   
I heard years ago that something like this was going to come and get all 
of us.  Not nukes or earthquakes, but simple bacteria that was able to 
eventually resist all antibiotics.


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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kevin Cully]

That's me with the ball in my mouth!!! 

Adam Buckland wrote:
> This now makes me very worried if Kevin is indeed covered by Blue
> Cross
> 
> www.bluecross.org.uk




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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kevin Cully]

In the end, it's all about keeping the money flowing.  The accounting
staff is in the wrestling match with the insurance companies, but the
doctors, in the end, call the shots.  HA!

Seriously folks, once the doctors hear that I'm paying for the service,
they may choose a similar but less costly treatment.  I can't know for
sure, but they really do seem to treat me like the customer instead of
some type of phantom entity floating in front of them.  All doctors and
doctor offices are different, YMMV.

I've heard of some doctors in North Georgia that are stopping taking
insurance.  They let the patient file the claims with their insurance
companies because the doctors were getting screwed over so badly.

The employer / employee / insurance company / doctor system is broken
IMO.  I don't file a claim to get my oil changed in my car, only if I
have a major accident.  Why should routine doctor visits be any different?

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Wow!  I'm surprised to hear that.  I figured they didn't really notice 
> the billing part but left that to the office staff (i.e., I figured they 
> only focused on your care).
> 
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Adam Buckland]

This now makes me very worried if Kevin is indeed covered by Blue
Cross

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I'm backed in the HSA by Blue Cross 

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kevin Cully]

I'm backed in the HSA by Blue Cross Blue Shield.  So, I can force any
doctor to file the claim via the BCBS network, which applies the
discount, and then I get the bill from the doctor and pay that amount.

... or ... If I know the doctor (or their billing staff) I can explain
to them that I'm in an HSA.  I'll tell them that they can file the claim
for $1000 and get paid $600 in about 4 to 12 months, or we can skip all
of that, and I can pay the $600 right now (or $550 or $500
...negotiate!) via my HSA debit card and they'll get their money
tomorrow with little or no paperwork.  I do this with my dermatologist.
 (I'm so white, I'm translucent!)  I'm tempted to get my own liquid
nitrogen service to the house.  I digress.

These "Doc In A Box" facilities are excellent too, and a HSA account
works great with this business/service model.  Their prices are listed
in plain sight, there's usually no wait at all, and they can do
everything including minor surgeries.

Again, if you and your family are relatively healthy, and you have the
cash reserve (3-6 mo) that you should as an independent contractor
developing in a language that M$ doesn't deem a buzzword, then an HSA
might be right for you.  If you have something chronic, then another
plan may be better.

-K

Rodney Dixon wrote:
> How do the charges work?  I'm insured through my employer, so I get an
> EOB (Explanation of Benefits) printout after every visit.  I notice that
> there is a significant discount right of the top.  For example, the
> charge for some items might be $1000 but my "in-network" discount might
> bring it down to $600.  Do you get the advantage of the "discounted"
> rate, or do you get to pay the bloated (let me stick it to the uninsured
> people to offset the sticking I get from the insurance company) fee.
>  
> Regards
> Rodney
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:00 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance
>>
>> As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
>> relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
>> Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
>> exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
>> over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.
>>
>> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
>> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
>> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
>> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> I'm in NJ.
>>>
>>> --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?
>>>> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
>>>>
>>>> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
>>>> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
>>>> live in the state of Michigan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> White Light Computing, Inc.
>>>>
>>>> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>>>> www.rickschummer.com
>>>> 586.254.2530 - office
>>>> 586.254.2539 - fax
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Dave Crozier]

Michael,

It's a hospital "superbug" that basically is resistant to antibiotics so it
kills you

Dave Crozier


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Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance

Allen wrote:
> I'm really glad I didn't move to the states. We only have mrsi to worry
> about. And waiting lists. Closing hospitals Ok forget it.
> Allen 
>   

What's "mrsi" ???  When I google that, it says "Magnetic resonance 
spectroscopic imaging" but I'm sure that's not what you mean.

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Allen]

Hello Jean
Yes I know, but I may have to pay for it. At least one day.
Cant wait to get going. Mid March it looks like.
Allen 

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> I'm really glad I didn't move to the states. We only have mrsi to worry
> about. And waiting lists. Closing hospitals Ok forget it.
> Allen

It will be a lot better in a few months time for you Al..

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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Allen wrote:
> I'm really glad I didn’t move to the states. We only have mrsi to worry
> about. And waiting lists. Closing hospitals Ok forget it.
> Allen 
>   

What's "mrsi" ???  When I google that, it says "Magnetic resonance 
spectroscopic imaging" but I'm sure that's not what you mean.

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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Kevin Cully wrote:
> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
>   
Wow!  I'm surprised to hear that.  I figured they didn't really notice 
the billing part but left that to the office staff (i.e., I figured they 
only focused on your care).


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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Rodney Dixon]

How do the charges work?  I'm insured through my employer, so I get an
EOB (Explanation of Benefits) printout after every visit.  I notice that
there is a significant discount right of the top.  For example, the
charge for some items might be $1000 but my "in-network" discount might
bring it down to $600.  Do you get the advantage of the "discounted"
rate, or do you get to pay the bloated (let me stick it to the uninsured
people to offset the sticking I get from the insurance company) fee.
 
Regards
Rodney

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin Cully
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance
> 
> As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
> relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
> Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
> exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
> over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.
> 
> What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
> Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
> do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
> that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > I'm in NJ.
> >
> > --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?
> >> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
> >>
> >> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
> >> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
> >> live in the state of Michigan.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> White Light Computing, Inc.
> >>
> >> www.whitelightcomputing.com
> >> www.rickschummer.com
> >> 586.254.2530 - office
> >> 586.254.2539 - fax
> >>
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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

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On 1/26/07, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm really glad I didn't move to the states. We only have mrsi to worry
> about. And waiting lists. Closing hospitals Ok forget it.
> Allen

It will be a lot better in a few months time for you Al..

A+
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Allen]

I'm really glad I didn’t move to the states. We only have mrsi to worry
about. And waiting lists. Closing hospitals Ok forget it.
Allen 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kevin Cully
Sent: 26 January 2007 14:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NF] Medical insurance

As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.

What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

[Kevin Cully]

As a lone gunman, insurance is really expensive.  My family is
relatively healthy so we got a HSA account, aka "Health Savings
Account".  It basically  means that we fund our own insurance (tax
exempt) for common doctor visits, but BCBS kicks in if the amount goes
over $5K in a year.  Basically, it's catastrophic insurance.

What I like about it is that I become the customer of the doctor.
Normally, the doctor is doing what the insurance company wants him to
do.  It's amazing how a doctor treats me differently when they learn
that I'm paying the bill.  I get much better treatment, IMO.

-Kevin


Michael Madigan wrote:
> I'm in NJ.
> 
> --- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
 Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance? 
>> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
>>
>> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
>> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
>> live in the state of Michigan.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>> White Light Computing, Inc.
>>
>> www.whitelightcomputing.com
>> www.rickschummer.com
>> 586.254.2530 - office
>> 586.254.2539 - fax
>>
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

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Adam Buckland <> wrote:
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> 
> No on second thoughts DON'T.

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[Malcolm Greene]

Michael,

> Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?

If you're in NJ you are totally screwed - there are no deals.

Malcolm


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Relocate to Europe.

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Subject: [NF] Medical insurance

Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

[Michael Madigan]

I'm in NJ.

--- Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> >>Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance? 
> My Cobra runs out the end of February.<<
> 
> Medical insurance is specific to the locale you
> reside in. I have someone I can recommend if you
> live in the state of Michigan.
> 
> 
> Rick
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>>Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My Cobra runs out the end of 
>>February.<<

Medical insurance is specific to the locale you reside in. I have someone I can 
recommend if you
live in the state of Michigan.


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[NF] Medical insurance

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Anybody have a great deal on medical insurance?  My
Cobra runs out the end of February.


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