date:20110309

Refleksi :  Tanpa ucapan nasehat  duta besar Da'i,  Dengan TKI  dibayar gaji 
terendah dan  tanpa perlindungan hukum  mereka sudah menampilkan diri  bahwa 
mereka dari negeri  besar segalanya. Besar penipuan terhadap rakyat, besar 
jumlah koruptor,  besar jumlah kaum kemiskinan, bersar jumlah pembesar 
pembohong, apa lagi yang kurang besarnya.

http://www.antaranews.com/berita/248844/dai-tki-harus-tunjukkan-diri-dari-negara-besar

Da`i: TKI Harus Tunjukkan Diri dari Negara Besar 
Minggu, 6 Maret 2011 23:13 WIB | 995 Views

 
Duta Besar Indonesia untuk Malaysia, Da'i Bachtiar (FOTO ANTARA/R. Rekotomo )

Kuala Lumpur (ANTARA News) - Duta Besar Republik Indonesia untuk Malaysia, Da`i 
Bachtiar meminta tenaga kerja Indonesia harus mampu menunjukkan diri datang 
dari negara besar yang merantau ke Malaysia, bukan untuk meminta-minta tapi 
turut membangun negeri jiran itu.

"Tunjukkan anda datang dari negara besar yang punya potensi dan turut membantu 
pembangunan Malaysia," kata Da`i dengan suara lantang dihadapan para TKI yang 
hadir dalam acara Karnival Nusantara diselenggarakan Perhimpunan Masyarakat 
Indonesia di Malaysia (Permai) di lapangan Sultan Sulaiman, Kuala Lumpur, 
Malaysia, Minggu.

Dikatakannya, Indonesia memang berterima kasih kepada pemerintah Malaysia, 
namun sebaliknya, Malaysia juga berterima kasih karena kehadiran para TKI di 
negeri itu juga untuk kemajuan ekonominya.

Oleh karenanya, kata Da`i, dirinya sangat sedih apabila ada warga Indonesia 
yang melakukan kriminal di Malaysia. Tapi sebaliknya dirinya sangat bangga bila 
warga Indonesia menunjukkan prestasinya termasuk di tingkat perguruan tinggi.

"Tolong jangan sampai Dubes RI di Malaysia malu karena tindak kriminal yang 
dilakukan orang Indonesia," ungkapnya.

"Kita semua harus mampu menjaga hubungan saling menguntungkan di kedua belah 
pihak," tegasnya.

Da`i selanjutnya mengutip perkataan mantan Perdana Menteri Malaysia, Tun 
Mahathir Mohamad yang berbunyi "Kalau diseberang sini, Malaysia tidak dijajah 
Inggris, ataupun diseberang sana, Indonesia tidak dijajah Belanda, apakah ada 
Malaysia dan Indonesia,"

Kutipan ini, menurut Da`i menunjukkan bahwa sejarah nenek moyang ke dua bangsa 
serumpun ini, dulunya bersatu.

"Banyak keturunan Indonesia di negeri ini, begitupula sebaliknya bangsa Melayu 
adalah satu rumpun. Jadi kita harus mempererat hubungan tersebut," kata Da`i.

Dikatakanya, hubungan antar kedua pemerintahan sejauh ini terbina dengan baik 
dan tidak ada masalah. 

Begitupula dengan hubungan bisnis antar pelaku usaha di kedua negara juga 
berjalan lancar dan terus menunjukkan peningkatan yang positif. 

"Bahkan pengusaha Malaysia (para pemimpin perusahaan) dalam suatu pertemuan 
telah mengeluarkan resolusi yang menyatakan meningkatkan investasinya ke 
Indonesia pada 2011," kata Da`i dengan menyebutkan investasi Malaysia di 
Indonesia diantaranya untuk sektor kelapa sawit, pertambangan dan infrastruktur.

Selanjutnya, hubungan persaudaraan dan persahabatan kedua belah pihak juga 
terus diperkuat dengan meningkatkan rasa persaudaraan bangsa serumpun.

Oleh karena itu, kata Da`i, jembatan untuk mendekatkan hubungan masyarakat 
kedua negara ini harus diperkokoh dan menjadi tugas bersama baik secara 
individu dan antar masyarakat.

"Menjadi tugas individu dan warga masyarakat untuk mempererat hubungan kedua 
negara ini," kata Da`i.

Sementara itu, Ketua Permai, M Machrodji Maghfur pada saat mengukuhkan 
kepengurusan permai untuk masa bakti 2011-2013 mengingatkan agar mereka bekerja 
secara iklas membangun silahturahmi antar sesama warga Indonesia di Malaysia 
dengan menjunjung tinggi harkat dan martabat bangsa Indonesia.

"Kepada teman-teman di Permai diharapkan bersatu demi kepentingan bangsa 
Indonesia tanpa memandang dari mana asalnya. Sehingga keberadaan Permai ini 
menjadi wadah untuk meningkatkan komunikasi positif antar sesama warga 
Indonesia di negeri ini," ungkapnya.

Sedangkan acara Karnival Nusantara, selain d ramaikan bazar makanan Indonesia 
juga dimeriahkan atas kehadiran penyanyi terkenal Indonesia, Dewi Yull.

Dewi membawakan sejumlah lagu-lagu yang menjadi hit di dalam negeri seperti 
"Jangan ada dusta diantara kita" yang dipopulerkan bersama almarhum Broery 
Pesolima serta lagu berjudul "Jujur" dari grup band Radja.(*)

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[proletar] The new Egypt: Leaving women behind

The new Egypt: Leaving women behind

On International Women's Day, Egyptian women contemplate being overlooked in 
the formation of a post-Mubarak future.

Basma Atassi Last Modified: 08 Mar 2011 15:02 GMT

Some Egyptian women feel they are being left behind after the revolution 
[GALLO/GETTY]

Marwa Sharaf el-Din, an Egyptian law PhD candidate at Oxford University, will 
be in Tahrir Square this afternoon to perform Zajal, a popular traditional form 
of Arabic poetry.

"Do I have to be broken to be an oriental woman; do I have to always say 'yes' 
to be an Egyptian woman?" her satirical poem reads.

Music bands and other performers will be showcasing their talents in front of 
thousands of people who will march to Tahrir Square to mark International 
Women's Day, which takes place every year on March 8.

"Unlike the confrontational protests we had ... to topple the regime, this 
protest is more of a celebratory one. We want to celebrate the achievements we 
have accomplished so far in Egypt," Sharaf-el Din says. 

"What we also want to do in today's rallies is remind the government that women 
make up half of the country, that we should be part of the decision-making in 
the new Egypt, that we can't go backwards."

A step back

The day before was a very disappointing one for women and women's rights 
activists across Egypt - when just one woman was included into the newly 
sworn-in cabinet.  Essam Sharaf, Egypt's new prime minister, has instead 
announced the creation of committee that deals with the advancement of women, 
formed under the supervision of the cabinet.

"I appreciate the prime minister's acknowledgement of women's role but I do not 
agree that this is the solution. I highly doubt this newly created committee 
will have any power," says Sharaf-el Din.

Aalam Wassef, an online activist who has long campaigned for women's rights and 
says this new arrangement is "condescending to women".

"It's like saying you women can have your little committee while we men do the 
serious business."

Wassef will be present in Tahrir Square to distribute 10,000 flyers calling for 
gender equality that he and his friends have printed using their own money. 
They will also be distributing thousands of stickers that read: "Sally was 
martyred for both of us;" "My sister has the right to wear what she pleases;" 
"I am a provider and a caretaker, where am I from the social protection system."

Laila Mustafa, a veiled woman in her 40s, came across Wassef on Tahrir Square 
yesterday evening and offered help. She took 1,000 banners to distribute them 
among her neighbours in Boulaq el Dakroor, one of the poorest neighbourhoods in 
Cairo.

"I finished distributing all the banners and today I am coming to the square. I 
do not want to make demands for women. I just want to show presence.

"Today's demonstration is a good opportunity to show the government that we 
exist."

Picking their battles

Throughout the uprising, women were at the forefront of the street protests.

However, they have largely kept quiet about their gender rights in a country 
where they have faced rampant discrimination and received little legal 
protection against widespread violence and sexual abuse.

They were careful not to display any intention of wanting to advance one 
group's rights over those of another.

"We did not speak of our gender rights during these protests because it was not 
the right time. We spoke for the political and social rights of all Egyptians. 
If we were to campaign for our rights as women in parallel with the 
revolution's national goal, that would have been called political opportunism," 
says Hala Kamal, an assistant professor at Cairo University and a member of the 
Women in Memory Forum.

But only days into the post-Mubarak era, many women's rights activists have 
begun to feel suspicious that the national umbrella they rallied under, whose 
slogan was democracy, equality and freedom for all Egyptians, may be leaving 
them out.

Their disillusionment began when no women were selected by the military council 
to be among the 10-member constitutional committee responsible for making 
constitutional revisions.

Another disheartening setback that raises questions about the future of women's 
rights in Egypt is the return of sexual harassment to the streets.

Returning from the front lines

While the protests have been hailed for being harassment-free in a society 
infamous for widespread sexual harassment, Engy Gozlan, who works with 
HarassMap, an initiative that enables women to report sexual harassment via 
SMS, says sexual harassment incidents have returned to their pre-protests 
level. It is estimated that more than 80 per cent of Egyptian women have 
encountered sexual harassment.

Fears that the condition of Egyptian women could return to 'normal' after the 
uprising appear legitimate. After all, there have been several cases in history 
of uprisings that prove that "women can be used in a revolution and then

[proletar] Aljazeera: Gaddafi blames unrest on foreigners

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Gaddafi blames unrest on foreigners

Rebel-held towns continue to be under attack as defiant Libyan leader alleges 
plot to colonise his country.
Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 07:01 GMT

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said rebels in his country are being drugged and 
armed by foreign forces [Reuters]

Muammar Gaddafi, Libya's embattled leader, has once again alleged involvement 
of foreigners in the rebellion against his more than 41-year-old rule.

In an address on State TV , Gaddafi warned of a plot to colonise Libya. As 
proof, he said his security forces had captured several foreigners during a 
raid on Monday.
His focus this time was on alleging that foreign influence was driving the 
rebel movement in this country, and he warned of the potential for colonisation 
of Libya. As proof, he said his security forces have captured several 
foreigners during one raid on Tuesday."
"Yesterday, the mosque that the security forces regained power over, they had 
in this mosque, they had weapons and alcohol has well. Some of them come from 
Afghanistan, some of them come from Egypt, some of them come from Algeria, just 
to misguide our children alleging that foreign influence was driving the rebel 
movement in this country, and he warned of the potential for colonisation of 
Libya. As proof, he said his security forces have captured several foreigners 
during one raid on Tuesday.

"Yesterday, the mosque that the security forces regained power over, they had 
in this mosque, they had weapons and alcohol has well. Some of them come from 
Afghanistan, some of them come from Egypt, some of them come from Algeria, just 
to misguide our children," Gaddafi said.

He alleged "foreign forces" were recruiting vulnerable youngsters in Zentain, 
Az Zawiyah and Benghazi - cities currently being held by rebels ranged against 
him.

"Those who exhibit weakness are targeted ... Otherwise, why did they not come 
after you? ... so you see. This means only the scum who could not be strong," 
he said.

His address came after the rebels served him an ultimatum to step down within 
72 hours.

"If he leaves Libya immediately, during 72 hours, and stops the bombardment, we 
as Libyans will step back from pursuing him for crimes," Mustafa Abdel Jalil, 
head of the opposition National Council, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday.

"Conditions are that firstly he stops all combat in the fields, secondly that 
his departure is within 72 hours; thirdly we may waive our right of domestic 
prosecution ... for the crimes of oppression, persecution, starvation and 
massacres," Jalil said.

Conflicting reports

The offer came amid reports that Gaddafi had sent feelers to the opposition 
movement, expressing willingness to negotiate his exit.
Read more of our Libya coverage

Unconfirmed reports indicated that Gaddafi was willing to step down in return 
for having war crimes charges against him dropped and a guaranteed safe exit 
for him and his family.

He also reportedly wanted guarantees from the UN that he will be allowed to 
keep his money.

Libyan state television has, however, denied the reports. An official from the 
Libyan foreign ministry described the reports as "absolute nonsense".

Hoda Abdel-Hamid, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the eastern city of Benghazi, 
said she was hearing conflicting accounts of what happened.

"The head of the opposition National Council says there were indirect talks 
with people from Tripoli, who were given the green light from the regime," she 
said. "But the spokesman for the National Council denies any of that."

The US, on its part, rejected any possible amnesty for Gaddafi.

"Any departure from Libya does not exempt Mr Gaddafi or his family from any 
responsibility and accountability for what has occurred," PJ Crowley, spokesman 
for the White House, said on Tuesday.

No-fly zone debate

Gaddafi has triggered international outrage by seeking to violently quell the 
uprising sweeping across his North African nation.

His forces, backed by war planes, are attempting to wrest back territories 
under rebel control. The intense fighting has resulted in deaths and 
destruction, and the rebels have been pressing the international community to 
impose a no-fly zone.
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"We don't want a foreign military intervention, but we do want a no-fly zone," 
rebel fighter Ali Suleiman told AP news agency.

"We are all waiting for one,'' he said. The rebels can take on "the rockets and 
the tanks, but not Gaddafi's air force''.

But Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, told a British television 
network on Tuesday that a no-fly zone over Libya ought to have international 
backing rather being a US-led effort.

"We want to see international community support for it," said Clinton.

As the international community debates its future course of action, pro-Gaddafi 
forces have strengthened their military position, squeezing rebel-held towns in 
the west and checking the advance of rebel fighters westwards towards the 
c

[proletar] Aljazeera: Iraqi Kurdistan's Liberation Square

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Iraqi Kurdistan's Liberation Square

Hundreds of people have been gathering in Sulaimaniya's central square to 
demand an end to corruption.

Mohammed A. Salih Last Modified: 08 Mar 2011 10:19 GMT

Hundreds of protesters are gathering daily in Iraqi Kurdistan [Credit: Mohammed 
A. Salih]

The winds of change sweeping through the Middle East and North Africa have now 
reached an otherwise peaceful corner of northern Iraq. Nowhere is their arrival 
more visible than in Bardarki Sara, the central square of Sulaimaniya, which 
has turned into a venue for mass protests against the authorities in Iraqi 
Kurdistan.

Inspired by the protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square, the protesters have renamed 
their square 'Maydani Azadi', the Kurdish equivalent of Tahrir or Liberation 
Square.

Yesterday's protests were the largest so far, partly because it was the 20th 
anniversary of the Kurdish uprising against Saddam Hussein's regime in 
Sulaimaniya, but protesters have been turning up in their hundreds for the past 
two weeks, chanting slogans against the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and 
its two major ruling parties, singing patriotic songs and demanding a change in 
the status quo. A podium has been set up, from where speakers - intellectuals, 
students, members of parliament and imams - talk to the crowd.

Protest organisers have called for a period of civil disobedience and public 
strikes across the region. But there has been only limited participation since 
Saturday, when they were due to start. In the early hours of Sunday morning, 
masked men burned down tents that had been set up for a sit-in by protesters at 
Maydani Azadi and arrested a number of them.

"I'm here to ask for my rights. When are we going to see the benefits of the 
economic boom in Kurdistan?" asked one young demonstrator who makes his living 
selling goods on a small stand in downtown Sulaimaniya. "We want jobs, better 
living conditions, better services and social justice," said the 20-year-old, 
asking to be identified as Jivara - Kurdish for Che Guevara.

To live 'freely and proudly'

The protests were started on February 17 by a network of civil society groups 
expressing solidarity with the Egyptian and Tunisian people and voicing 
discontent over chronic corruption and the poor provision of public services.

But when protesters gathered in front of the Sulaimaniya headquarters of the 
Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and started throwing stones, the building's 
guards opened fire, killing one person and injuring dozens more. Angered by 
what they saw as a hugely disproportionate response, protesters took to the 
streets of towns across the province.

Eight people, including a policeman, have died to date in the protests, about 
200 have been injured and two television and radio stations in Sulaimaniya have 
been burned down by unknown assailants.

As elsewhere in the Arab world, social media sites have played a major role in 
empowering the protesters. There are numerous Facebook pages dedicated to 
getting out timely accounts of the protests and expressing the grievances of 
the demonstrators. 

And with the protests showing no sign of abetting, officials are now trying to 
appease the protesters.

"I call on the parliament to engage with all sides to study the possibility of 
holding early general elections so that the people can make their voices heard 
and have the final say," said Massoud Barzani, the president of Iraqi 
Kurdistan, in a televised speech on Thursday. He also called for the government 
to prepare for provincial elections.

"After looking into the whole situation, I have come to the conclusion that the 
situation calls for a fundamental remedy, rather than band-aid solutions."

Stressing his unity with the "voices calling for reform and social justice," 
Barzani added: "I would not like to live in a Kurdistan where its people did 
not live freely and proudly."

Zones of influence
A man sells fava beans from a cart among the protesting crowds [Credit: 
Mohammed A. Salih]

Barzani's call for early elections came weeks after a similar call by the main 
opposition group, Gorran (Kurdish for Change). But back then the KDP, headed by 
Barzani, and its coalition partner in the government, the Patriotic Union of 
Kurdistan (PUK), headed by Jalal Talabani, Iraq's president, lambasted Gorran 
for prescribing "a coup d'état".

"We welcome the call for elections as a way out of the current crisis. But to 
carry out clean elections, the current government needs to be dissolved because 
any elections under this KDP-PUK government will not be free of fraud and 
pressure," said Zana Rauf, a member of the Kurdish parliament from Gorran. 
"There needs to be an interim government run by technocrats and independents to 
prepare the ground for genuine elections."

Gorran accepted the results of the last Kurdish parliamentary elections in July 
2009 but expressed strong criticism of what it said were irregularities and 
fraud.

[proletar] Aljazeera: Protesters dig in at Bahraini financial hub

Protesters dig in at Bahraini financial hub
By Gregg Carlstrom in   

* Middle East

on March 7th, 2011.

For a country dependent on its reputation as a financial hub, the ongoing 
protests are believed to be costing the economy dear

Hundreds of anti-government protesters seem to be gearing up for a long stay 
outside a main financial hub in downtown Bahrain, one of three demonstrations 
across the capital on Monday.

A small group of demonstrators travelled to the US embassy in southern Manama 
this morning, where they waved signs asking the US to "stop supporting 
dictators." A spokesman for the US embassy said his government was "listening 
to all sides."

A second group, numbering several hundred, staged a protest outside an interior 
ministry office in the capital's Adliya neighbourhood.

The third - and longest-running - protest centred on the Bahrain Financial 
Harbour (BFH), a major commercial hub in the business district of Manama, where 
a number of protesters have been camped out on Sunday night.

About 300 protesters lined the streets outside, the financial centre on Monday 
afternoon, chanting the usual slogans ("Down with Hamad!", "We are brothers, 
Sunni and Shia, this country is not for sale") and waving Bahraini flags.

One pickup truck brought biryani and bottled water to the crowd, and another 
arrived carrying a speaker system, which protesters have used to chant slogans 
against the ruling family.

There was a tense moment when a woman motorist pulled over and got into an 
argument with the protesters, then sped away, knocking down two people in the 
process.

An ambulance quickly arrived to take away the injured protesters. Several 
people said they managed to take photographs of the woman and expect police to 
investigate the incident on the basis of this information.

One-dinar notes

Earlier, some of the protesters had been waving one-dinar notes - a reference 
to an [unconfirmed] story that Bahrain's prime minister bought the land on 
which BFH now sits for just one Bahraini dinar ($2.65).

They circulated photocopies of a "property contract" showing the alleged sale 
price, but obviously it is impossible to confirm the authenticity of the 
document.

Whether or not the story is true, it resonated with protesters frustrated by 
the kingdom's housing shortage. Real-estate prices have increased exponentially 
over the last few years, and many lower-income Bahrainis struggle to afford 
housing.

"Right now, to buy a plot of land that's 60 metres by 80 metres [roughly one 
acre], that would cost you 70,000 dinars ($185,000)," said Mohammed Ali, a 
protester who said he walked over from his job at the nearby foreign ministry.

Police asked the protesters to leave, but they did quite the opposite, pitching 
another tent on the street; some of them plan to spend the night, despite fears 
that police will use force to clear the street.

"I'd give it a 50 per cent chance that they will try to take this back 
tonight," said a man named Ali who declined to give his last name. "Lulu [Pearl 
Roundabout] is important, but there is money here, so this place is even more 
important."

The police presence is currently quite small, about a dozen officers. There 
were rumours that they issued an ultimatum to protesters - leave by 2pm, or 
else - but 2pm came and went, as did 3pm, and 4pm. The officers kept their 
distance, most of them standing across the busy King Faisal Highway.

Bahraini security forces have not clashed with protesters since last month, 
when seven people were killed.





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[proletar] Aljazeera: Saudi Arabia's voices of discontent

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http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/03/20113812947713373.html#

Saudi Arabia has mobilised thousands of troops to try to quell rising dissent 
in the kingdom. Protestors have called for a 'day of rage' and are using social 
network sites to rally protestors.
 
But will King Abdullah's announcement of billions of dollars worth of social 
reforms be enough to stave off a revolution? And is the House of Saud really 
listening to the growing voices of discontent?

There are three main population centres in the vast Arabian Peninsula state, 
where demonstrations could emerge:  The capital Riyadh, which has a population 
of more than four million, the main port city of Jeddah, with a population of 
more than two million and the Shia Muslim areas of the Eastern Province, which 
sit on much of the vast reserves of oil in the kingdom.

Joining the programme to discuss these issues are Abdulaziz Alkhames, a 
campaigner for Saudi Human Rights Centre; Mai Yamani, the author of Changed 
Identities: the challenge of the new generation in Saudi Arabia; and Khaled 
Almaeena, the editor-in-chief of the English-language daily Arab News.

This episode of Inside Story aired from Monday, March 7, 2011.





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[proletar] CNN: Egypt's Million Woman March fizzles into shouting matches


 
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Egypt's Million Woman March fizzles into shouting matches

Cairo, Egypt (CNN) -- Several hundred people showed up for a pro-women 
demonstration in a major Cairo square on Tuesday -- including some men who 
chanted anti-feminist slogans.

Egyptian activists had called for a Million Woman March on Tuesday, demanding 
"fair and equal opportunity for all Egyptian citizens -- beyond gender, 
religion or class."

But the turnout appeared to be no more than than 1,000, and the event quickly 
degenerated into shouting matches between the two sides.

"Men are men and women are women and that will never change and go home, that's 
where you belong," some of the anti-feminist demonstrators chanted.

There were men on both sides of the protest.

Organizers calling for the demonstration said on Facebook they were "not after 
minority rights. We are not after symbolic political representation."

Activists highlighted the role of women in the protests that swept Egypt this 
year.

"The bodies of women, so often used as ideological battlegrounds, have 
withstood all kinds of police violence, from tear gas to live bullets. The real 
battleground did not differentiate between women and men," they said on 
Facebook.

Women were very visible among demonstrators who toppled Egypt's President Hosni 
Mubarak last month, which feminists called a breakthrough for Egyptian society.

"The barrier of patriarchal control is one that Egyptians have managed to break 
since day one of the revolution," march organizers said in calling for the 
demonstration on Tuesday, which is International Women's Day.

"For a long time, (patriarchy) had stifled Egyptian society as a whole and was 
felt most acutely by women," they said.

But since protests took off in late January, "Egyptian women have resisted 
unjust control and fought to bring down the patriarchal regime and liberate 
themselves and their country," they said.

"What Egyptian women have done and continue to do in this revolution is not new 
to them," they argued.

"It is a continuation of the role they have always played throughout history 
for the advancement of their country and its liberation from various forms of 
tyranny. Women's roles shall not be ignored nor their sacrifices forgotten," 
they insisted.

The march started in Tahrir Square, the focal point of anti-Mubarak 
demonstrations, on Tuesday afternoon.

A survey in 2008 by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights claimed that 98% of 
foreign women and 83% of Egyptian women in the country had been sexually 
harassed.

CBS reporter Lara Logan was attacked in Tahrir Square after Mubarak stepped 
down, and other women reported incidents ranging from mild harassment to 
violent attacks.

Five years ago, the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights closed its program 
helping young women get involved in local politics because of lack of interest.

Today, the organization says it is inundated with young women wanting to get 
involved in its campaigns.

CNN's Nima Elbagir contributed to this report.
 
 
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[proletar] Yang masih bisa dilakukan orang Islam: unjuk kedunguan dan menyebar fitnah...


Orang Islam sudah kedodoran.

Game over.

Yang masih bisa, dan memang masih, dilakukan orang Islam: unjuk kedunguan dan 
kebusukan, kenistaan fikiran mereka dengan menyebar dusta serta fitnah yang 
menjijikkan...






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Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

artinya, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag

masa bahasa indonesia semudah itu nggak bisa...

---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

ayub yahya, yang paling dungu diantara anggota gerombolan orang yang otaknya 
sudah rusak dan jadi pada dungu kayak babi di mailing list ini, unjuk lagi isi 
otaknya yang busuk, nista  dan menjijikkan...

Karena saya bilang "Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja 
tidak menerima tunjangan itu." lantas dia bilagn "kalo nggak punya anak ... 
nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag), tapi tetap terima toeslag kan ?!"

Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga.

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[proletar] Belasan tahun orang kafir menunjukkan kedugnan dan kebusukan ajaran Islam


Belasan tahun orang kafir menjelaskan di mailing list ini bahwa ajaran agama 
taik anjing Islam itu  bukan saja dungu, tapi juga buas, kejam, keji, ganas, 
zalim lagi biadab..

Mengerikan.

Dan, ini yang penting juga, ajaran agama taik anjing Islam itu hanya 
berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif yang bilang, tanpa 
bukti tentu saja, buku taik anjing al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu Allah dan hadits 
taik kucing itu ada yang sahih...

Sudah entah berapa diantara orang Islam itu, seperti "anti-kejahatan" dan Abbas 
Amin, yang kedodoran dan kemudian tiarap atau lari kaing-kaing kayak anjing 
budug kena pentung.

Beberapa orang diantara mereka, seperti Dipo, johny-indon, ndeboost,  PAREWA 
PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang terus bertahan sambil tak 
henti-hentinya pamer kedunguan dan kedangkalan pengetahuan mereka serta 
kebusukan dan kenistaan fikiran mereka yang menjijikkan dengan menyebar dusta 
dan fitnah...

Akhirnya, mereka itu keleleran juga: orang kafir seperti "great pretender" dan 
"sebuah kenyataan" menghadapkan mereka kepada kenyataan yang pahit lagi 
menyilaukan: sesuai dengan QS 4:82 maka buku taik babi al-Mushaf susunan orang 
Arab primitif itu memang tidak berisi wahyu Allah.

Schaakmat.

End Game.

Game over.








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Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

Anjing.

Anda tahu apa yang namanay anjing?

Nah anda itu adalah manusia bermental anjing yang suka menyalak asal memfitnah.

Saya bilang "Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga." 

Anjing.

Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjing?

Nah anda itu adalah mansuia bermental anjing yang suka menyalak asal memfitnah.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> artinya, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag
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> sudah rusak dan jadi pada dungu kayak babi di mailing list ini, unjuk lagi 
> isi otaknya yang busuk, nista  dan menjijikkan...
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> Karena saya bilang "Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja 
> tidak menerima tunjangan itu." lantas dia bilagn "kalo nggak punya anak ... 
> nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag), tapi tetap terima toeslag kan ?!"
> 
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[proletar] Bill Gates' Philanthropy Costs Him Richest-Man Title

2011-03-09 Thread wawan

KOMPAS.com - Bill Gates didn't lose his title as the world's richest man last 
year; he gave it away by plowing billions into his charitable foundation, 
experts say.

Forbes will release its 2011 billionaires list on Wednesday and Gates, investor 
Warren Buffett and last year's richest man, Mexican tycoon Carlos Slim, will 
almost certainly be in the top three. The trio have topped the list for the 
past five years.

But it would be no contest if Microsoft co-founder Gates had not already given 
away more than a third of his wealth to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, 
which focuses on global health and development and US education.

"It wouldn't be a competition," said David Lincoln, director of global 
valuations at wealth research firm Wealth-X. "(Gates) would have a comfortable 
margin if he had never discovered philanthropy."

Lincoln said Gates was currently worth about $US49 billion ($48.4 billion), 
behind Slim, whose fortune he estimated at $US60 billion. Buffett, also a 
philanthropist, is now worth some $US47 billion.

But had Gates not given away any money, he would be worth $US88 billion, 
Lincoln said.

Gates and his wife Melinda have so far given $US28 billion to their foundation, 
the largest in the United States.

Forbes' 2010 billionaires list put Gates' fortune at $53 billion, but he was 
knocked into second spot by Slim's $53.5 billion, losing the crown for only the 
second time since 1995.

Slim has said businessmen do more good by creating jobs and wealth through 
investment, "not by being Santa Claus," and while he has still pledged several 
billion dollars to charity, his efforts have been a fraction of Gates' 
philanthropy.

Buffett, who Forbes ranked as the third richest man in the world last year with 
$47 billion, has also pledged almost all of his fortune to the Gates Foundation 
and has given $8 billion to the organization since 2006.

But Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc has fared better than Gates' Microsoft. 
Microsoft shares now trade about where they were a decade ago, while Berkshire 
shares have roughly doubled.

Since the end of 2009, Microsoft shares have fallen 16 percent, while Berkshire 
shares are up 29 percent. Slim's major companies, which include Mexico's former 
state telecoms monopoly Telmex, have also seen gains in their stock prices.

"Dramatic philanthropic influence"

Gates and Buffett have joined forces to encourage other billionaires to 
publicly pledge to give away at least 50 percent of their wealth during their 
lifetimes or upon their death as part of a campaign called The Giving Pledge.

Glen Macdonald, president of the Wealth and Giving Forum, said Gates' 
philanthropy had influenced the way other rich people in the United States 
approach their own philanthropy.

"Encouraging people and leading by example - there's no question that's going 
to have influence on people's giving patterns," said Macdonald. "They are going 
to give sooner and they are going to give in greater amounts."

But Macdonald, whose group has advised 600 wealthy US families on their 
philanthropy, disagrees with the public nature of The Giving Pledge, which 
requires billionaires to release a letter explaining their intentions.

So far 59 billionaires have joined The Giving Pledge, publishing their letter 
at www.givingpledge.org. The campaign does not accept any money nor tell people 
how to give away their wealth, it just asks for a moral commitment.

Paul Schervish, director of the Centre on Wealth and Philanthropy at Boston 
College, said Gates' influence had been "dramatic" and likened philanthropy to 
a gem, saying Gates was "changing the facets by learning and teaching others."

"He would be the first to admit that he is not the origin of the movement, of 
all the ideas in the movement, for which he is a leader," Schervish said.

"One of the things we're dramatically finding is (many more) people beginning 
foundations and endowing them at higher levels while they are still alive," he 
said. 





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[proletar] Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

2011-03-09 Thread wawan

KOMPAS.com  Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio?  
Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga cukup 
mahal ini.

Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.

Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).

Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 gram  
pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi dilakukan 
setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 relawan 
mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE dibandingkan 
skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang. 

Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan saat 
berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran darah 
menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui pengukuran 
ultrasound.

"Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri dan 
meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari Atatürk 
Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.

Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios juga 
kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset sebelumnya juga 
menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan impotensi atau DE.

Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda untuk segera membeli kacang pistachio, 
para peneliti menegaskan bahwa hasil penelitian ini masih dalam tahap awal. 
Jadi, bila Anda memang sedang mengalami problem fungsi seksual, berkonsultasi 
dengan dokter adalah langkah paling bijak daripada sekadar mengudap kacang 
impor ini. 





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[proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi


Ngomong-ngomong tentang kacang pistachio yang memang rada mahal itu, saya 
selalu teringat bahwa ketika saya dikirim majallah "Tempo" meliput kenaikan 
Khomeiny (saya sampai ke Iran setelah Syah minggat, jadi saya tidak meliput 
kejatuhan Syah) saya membawa beberapa bungkus kacang pistachio itu sebagai 
oleh-oleh untuk Marlene disamping caviar yang saya beli di bandar udara...

Di Leiden, saya ikut mencicipi.

Duh enaknya.

Tidak ada kacang psitachio yang saya kemudian saya beli di Leiden  yang bisa 
menyaingi rasa pistachio dari Iran itu...


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "wawan"  wrote:
>
> KOMPAS.com  Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio?  
> Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga 
> cukup mahal ini.
> 
> Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
> positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.
> 
> Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
> Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
> pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
> impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).
> 
> Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 
> gram  pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi 
> dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 
> relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE 
> dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang. 
> 
> Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan saat 
> berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran darah 
> menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui 
> pengukuran ultrasound.
> 
> "Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
> tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri dan 
> meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
> pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari Atatürk 
> Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.
> 
> Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
> perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios 
> juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset 
> sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan 
> impotensi atau DE.
> 
> Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda untuk segera membeli kacang 
> pistachio, para peneliti menegaskan bahwa hasil penelitian ini masih dalam 
> tahap awal. Jadi, bila Anda memang sedang mengalami problem fungsi seksual, 
> berkonsultasi dengan dokter adalah langkah paling bijak daripada sekadar 
> mengudap kacang impor ini.
>






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Re: [proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

2011-03-09 Thread Wong Matengwit

kacang tabah di tanah air,kecil-kecil namun lebih manis daripada yang hasil
rekayasa genetika. barangkali gambaran kacang pit...yang dibilang enak itu
perlu dipertandingkan dengan kacang anak negeri yang asli

2011/3/9 Jusfiq 

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> Ngomong-ngomong tentang kacang pistachio yang memang rada mahal itu, saya
> selalu teringat bahwa ketika saya dikirim majallah "Tempo" meliput kenaikan
> Khomeiny (saya sampai ke Iran setelah Syah minggat, jadi saya tidak meliput
> kejatuhan Syah) saya membawa beberapa bungkus kacang pistachio itu sebagai
> oleh-oleh untuk Marlene disamping caviar yang saya beli di bandar udara...
>
> Di Leiden, saya ikut mencicipi.
>
> Duh enaknya.
>
> Tidak ada kacang psitachio yang saya kemudian saya beli di Leiden yang bisa
> menyaingi rasa pistachio dari Iran itu...
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "wawan"  wrote:
> >
> > KOMPAS.com  Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio?
> Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga
> cukup mahal ini.
> >
> > Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek
> positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.
> >
> > Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of
> Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi
> pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala
> impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).
> >
> > Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100
> gram pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi
> dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17
> relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE
> dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang.
> >
> > Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan
> saat berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran
> darah menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui
> pengukuran ultrasound.
> >
> > "Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang
> relatif tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh
> arteri dan meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang
> melenturkan pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir,
> dari Atatürk Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.
> >
> > Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan
> menunjukkan perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan
> pistachios juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol.
> Riset sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol
> dan impotensi atau DE.
> >
> > Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda untuk segera membeli kacang
> pistachio, para peneliti menegaskan bahwa hasil penelitian ini masih dalam
> tahap awal. Jadi, bila Anda memang sedang mengalami problem fungsi seksual,
> berkonsultasi dengan dokter adalah langkah paling bijak daripada sekadar
> mengudap kacang impor ini.
> >
>
>  
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[proletar] Kkejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan


Kejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan di 
Eropa seperti Wilders dan Le Pen di Perancis..

Disatu pihak orang Islam di Eropa yang hingga sekarang suka bikin onar di Eropa 
dengan membunuh van Gogh, membom London, Madrid dan nuntut syariah juga akan 
sadar bahwa mereka berada di masyarakat yang justru diingini oleh orang Arab di 
Timur Tengah.

Dan dilain pihak "penduduk pribumi" Eropa yang hingga sekarang banyak yang 
merasa ngeri dengan Islam itu juga akan sadar bahwa orang Islam, termasuk 
mereka yang hidup di Eropa dan bukan hanya yang hidup di Timur Tengan dan 
Afrika Utara, bisa menjadi demokrat dan menghormati hak-hak azasi manusia, 
artinya, secara bertahap, meninggalkan syariah yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim 
ganas lagi biadab itu.







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Re: [proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

trus habis makan kacang pistachio... ngaceng nggak ???
jangan OOT dong ... hehehe

kesian amat.. 
belinya di Iran, nyicip-nya di leiden...( fitnah nih !! )

toeslag.. toeslag, nyiksa banget sih !!


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Ngomong-ngomong tentang kacang pistachio yang memang rada mahal itu, saya 
selalu teringat bahwa ketika saya dikirim majallah "Tempo" meliput kenaikan 
Khomeiny (saya sampai ke Iran setelah Syah minggat, jadi saya tidak meliput 
kejatuhan Syah) saya membawa beberapa bungkus kacang pistachio itu sebagai 
oleh-oleh untuk Marlene disamping caviar yang saya beli di bandar udara...



Di Leiden, saya ikut mencicipi.



Duh enaknya.



Tidak ada kacang psitachio yang saya kemudian saya beli di Leiden  yang bisa 
menyaingi rasa pistachio dari Iran itu...



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "wawan"  wrote:

>

> KOMPAS.com — Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio?  
> Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga 
> cukup mahal ini.

> 

> Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
> positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.

> 

> Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
> Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
> pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
> impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).

> 

> Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 
> gram  pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi 
> dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 
> relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE 
> dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang. 

> 

> Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan saat 
> berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran darah 
> menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui 
> pengukuran ultrasound.

> 

> "Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
> tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri dan 
> meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
> pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari Atatürk 
> Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.

> 

> Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
> perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios 
> juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset 
> sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan 
> impotensi atau DE.

> 

> Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda untuk segera membeli kacang 
> pistachio, para peneliti menegaskan bahwa hasil penelitian ini masih dalam 
> tahap awal. Jadi, bila Anda memang sedang mengalami problem fungsi seksual, 
> berkonsultasi dengan dokter adalah langkah paling bijak daripada sekadar 
> mengudap kacang impor ini.

>






 





 



  






  

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[proletar] Ketabahan Hati adalah Warisan Gen

2011-03-09 Thread wawan

http://www.faktailmiah.com/2011/03/08/ketabahan-hati-adalah-warisan-gen.html

Selasa, 8 Maret 2011 - Saat terjadi tragedi, sebagian besar dari kita dapat 
pulih dari trauma dengan sangat mengesankan. Dari mana datangnya kemampuan 
tersebut?

Ketika hal terburuk terjadi  kematian anggota keluarga, serangan teroris, 
epidemi penyakit mematikan, rasa takut di tengah peperangan  kita mengalami 
shock dan disorientasi yang besar. Namun ilmuan syaraf dan psikolog yang 
melihat kembali pada konsekuensi peristiwa dahsyat ini telah belajar sesuatu 
yang mengejutkan: sebagian besar korban tragedi segera mulai pulih dan akhirnya 
kembali stabil secara emosional. Sebagian besar dari kita menunjukkan kepulihan 
alamiah pada hal terburuk yang dapat terjadi dalam hidup kita.

Sigmund Freud telah menulis tahun 1917 mengenai kebutuhan "kesedihan" dimana 
kita mengambil kembali energi emosional atau yang diistilahkannya sebagai 
libido, yang kita investasikan dalam "objek yang telah tiada" atau dengan kata 
lain, orang-orang yang telah meninggal. Pandangan psikologi berusia seabad ini 
memandang jiwa sebagai sistem pipa untuk menyalurkan gaya-gaya hidup bawah 
sadar tetap diterima karena tidak adanya bukti penyangkal, hingga dekade kita 
sekarang. Saat ini para psikolog dan biologiwan syaraf mulai menjelajahi 
penjelasan-penjelasan alternatif.

Sudut Pandang Biologi Syaraf

Banyak jalur biologis  rantai interaksi antar protein  memberikan sumbangan 
pada fenomena kepulihan. Sejauh ini, para ilmuan telah menemukan lebih dari 
cukup petunjuk mengani profil biologis dari jiwa yang tegar. Sebagai contoh, 
pada bulan Mei 2010, Eric J. Nestler dari Pusat Medis Gunung Sinai dan 
rekan-rekannya melaporkan mengenai sebuah protein, DeltaFosB, tampak melindungi 
tikus dan mungkin manusia dalam menghadapi stress akibat sendirian dan 
terisolasi atau terancam oleh tikus yang lebih agresif. DeltaFosB bertindak 
sebagai saklar molekuler yang menyalakan seperangkat gen (yang menginduksi 
produksi protein-protein yang mereka sandikan). Ia banyak sekali pada tikus 
yang tegar sementara sedikit sekali pada jaringan otak pasien yang mengalami 
depresi. Obat yang mampu merangsang DeltaFosB dapat melindungi manusia dari 
depresi dan memperkuat ketegaran jiwa secara umum.

Sehamparan gen dan protein lainnya dapat ikut menyumbang, namun seperti 
DeltaFosB, para peneliti harus memperlakukannya dengan hati-hati. Gen 5-HTT, 
awalnya dipandang sebagai kunci "gen kepulihan", memberikan kisah bagaimana 
pendekatan genetika murni dapat menjebak kita. Hampir satu dekade lalu, 
sejumlah studi menunjukkan kalau orang yang memiliki versi panjang gen ini 
lebih mampu mengatasi depresi daripada mereka yang memiliki bentuk pendek  
dengan kata lain, mereka lebih tegar.

Gen ini terkenal tahun 2006 saat sebuah artikel New York Times Magazine 
menunjukkan kemunculan uji komersial pertama 5-HTT untuk membantu kepulihan 
trauma. Awalnya penderita stress memang mengalami optimisme tinggi, namun dalam 
waktu singkat, optimisme yang sangat tinggi ini segera berubah menjadi 
kebingungan (pola yang umum ditemukan dalam studi yang hanya berfokus pada 
perilaku kompleks satu gen saja). Dua studi meta analisis selanjutnya 
mengungkapkan bukti yang tidak membenarkan adanya hubungan antara gen 5-HTT dan 
depresi yang disebabkan peristiwa kehidupan traumatis. Studi lainnya justru 
menemukan hubungan ini, walaupun sangat lemah. Memang pada akhirnya studi 
psikologi ketegaran  akan membawa pada obat-obatan jenis baru yang mampu 
menghilangkan depresi manusia. Namun sekarang, pandangan cepat bukan datang 
dari mempelajari gen atau reseptor sel, namun dari metode gaya lama, wawancara 
tatap muka dengan mereka yang tenggelam dalam krisis kepribadian.

Sudut Pandang Psikologi

Bonanno mewawancarai sejumlah orang yang selamat dari pelecehan seksual di 
Universitas Katolik dan Universitas Columbia,  para penduduk New York yang 
selamat dari serangan 9/11 dan warga Hong Kong yang berhasil hidup dalam 
epidemi SARS. Kemanapun ia pergi, kisahnya tetap sama: "Sebagian besar yang 
selamat hidup seperti biasanya."

Pengenalan gangguan stress pasca trauma dalam Diagnostic and Statistical Manual 
of Mental Disorders tahun 1980 an membuat para psikolog cenderung berperspektif 
sempit. Kerangka yang dibangun manual diagnostik cenderung mendorong para 
peneliti hanya mempelajari kelompok yang mengalami gangguan stress pasca 
traumatis yang dipandang umum ditemukan setelah terjadi bencana. Walau begitu, 
penelitian Bonanno menunjukkan kelompok ini hanyalah sepertiga atau dua pertiga 
dari mereka yang selamat dari tragedi, sisanya biasa saja. Setelah enam bulan, 
tersisa kurang dari 10 persen saja.

Penelitian Bonanno memenangkan perhatian, namun tidak semua orang yakin kalau 
ketegaran jiwa adalah sifat naluriah manusia. Sebagian ilmuan mengklaim kalau 
definisi Bonanno terlalu luas, padahal anak kecil tidak seperti itu. Bonanno 
mengakui kalau trauma di masa kecil lebih kuat pengaruhnya da

[proletar] Kkejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan


Kejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan di 
Eropa seperti Wilders dan Le Pen di Perancis..

Disatu pihak orang Islam di Eropa yang hingga sekarang suka bikin onar di Eropa 
dengan membunuh van Gogh, membom London, Madrid dan nuntut syariah juga akan 
sadar bahwa mereka berada di masyarakat yang justru diingini oleh orang Arab di 
Timur Tengah.

Dan dilain pihak "penduduk pribumi" Eropa yang hingga sekarang banyak yang 
merasa ngeri dengan Islam itu juga akan sadar bahwa orang Islam, termasuk 
mereka yang hidup di Eropa dan bukan hanya yang hidup di Timur Tengan dan 
Afrika Utara, bisa menjadi demokrat dan menghormati hak-hak azasi manusia, 
artinya, secara bertahap, meninggalkan syariah yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim 
ganas lagi biadab itu.

Dengan kata lain, besar kemungkinan bahwa pasang pendukung Wilders dan Le Pen 
itu akan surut...






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Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

perlu copas tulisan lo sendiri ??

runyam banget sih idup lo pig 

dirinya sendiri di fitnah...


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Saya bilang "Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga." 


 




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:

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> artinya, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag

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> masa bahasa indonesia semudah itu nggak bisa...

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> ---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

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> Karena saya bilang "Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja 
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> nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag), tapi tetap terima toeslag kan ?!"

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> Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga.

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[proletar] Tawang yang dungu & angka 19, Sato Sakaki dan Baha'i.....

2011-03-09 Thread utusan.allah


Posting lama di maling list ini tentang asal usul numerologi angka 19:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/138358







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[proletar] Jadi Tawang, omong kosong tentang angka 19 itu berasaml dari Baha'i..


Seperti juga Nur Abdurrachman, anda itu adalah orang Islam
tipikal, artinya manusia yang telah berhasil, by a manner of
speaking, meredusir volume otaknya menjadi segede peler monyet
ouistiti.

Baca nih:

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Re: [proletar] Kkejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan

2011-03-09 Thread Wong Matengwit

sebentar lagi kalau ada kesempatan,sebgaian panganutnya di Indonesia akan
mengikuti. kontradiksi utama Indonesia salah satunya memang mengarah ke
situ. dengan demikian bagi yang berakar pada islam lokal ala NU mesti
memperkuat barisannya dengan yang tidak seekstrim mereka.

2011/3/9 Jusfiq 

>
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>
> Kejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan
> di Eropa seperti Wilders dan Le Pen di Perancis..
>
> Disatu pihak orang Islam di Eropa yang hingga sekarang suka bikin onar di
> Eropa dengan membunuh van Gogh, membom London, Madrid dan nuntut syariah
> juga akan sadar bahwa mereka berada di masyarakat yang justru diingini oleh
> orang Arab di Timur Tengah.
>
> Dan dilain pihak "penduduk pribumi" Eropa yang hingga sekarang banyak yang
> merasa ngeri dengan Islam itu juga akan sadar bahwa orang Islam, termasuk
> mereka yang hidup di Eropa dan bukan hanya yang hidup di Timur Tengan dan
> Afrika Utara, bisa menjadi demokrat dan menghormati hak-hak azasi manusia,
> artinya, secara bertahap, meninggalkan syariah yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim
> ganas lagi biadab itu.
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[proletar] Open letter to Vice -President Boediono + VP begins Australian visit

Open letter to  Vice -President Boediono ( who is visiting Australia) 
concerning human rights and political prisoners in West Papua





Australia West Papua Association (Sydney)
PO Box 28, Spit Junction, Sydney, Australia 2088
Ph/fax 61.2.99601698  email: bun...@bigpond.net.au



Open letter to  Vice -President Boediono




Vice -President Boediono,
C/- Indonesian Consulate
Perth , Western Australia
 
 
9 March 2011

Dear Vice -President Boediono,
 
 On behalf of the Australia West Papua Association (Sydney),  I am writing to 
you concerning  the human rights situation in West Papua[1]. 
 
We are concerned that the  human rights situation in West Papua has  continued 
to deteriorate in the past year.  One incident in particular highlighted the 
worsening human rights situation and that was the shocking video footage of 
West Papuans being tortured by Indonesian soldiers. The video showed several 
men in military fatigues torturing two Papuans. The soldiers in the video 
threaten the two men with sharp weapons and pressed a burning bamboo stick 
against one of the men's genitals.  The torture of the men prompted a wave of 
international criticism with human rights organisations around the world 
condemning the actions  of the Indonesian military.  This incident was not an 
isolated incident. 
 
A number of  military operation also took place in the Puncak Jaya region in 
the past year and these operations leave the local people traumatised and in 
fear for their lives.  Security forces  conduct regular sweeps  in the area to 
pursue members of the Free Papua Movement (OPM) and  many reports have pointed 
out that the security forces have great difficulty distinguishing  between what 
they term separatists  and the general public.  In further evidence of  human 
rights abuses another report  accused the police of burning down the village of 
Bigiragi in the Puncak Jaya district.  The report said that 16 Mobile Brigade 
officers had burned the village to the ground on October 11. The report said 
that at least 29 homes were destroyed in the incident leaving at least 150 
people homeless. In September 2010  the House of Representatives (DPR) Law 
Commission deputy chairman, Tjatur Sapto Edy lamented the military operations 
in the Puncak Jaya Regency following a report by the  National Commission for 
Human Rights (Komnas HAM). Tjatur said there should be no more military 
operations and such approaches  are no longer suitable in a democracy. A report 
by Komnas HAM's Papua chapter revealed 29 cases of rights abuses occurred in 
Puncak Jaya regency from 2004-2010, including the torture and rape of villagers 
in March 2010 by law enforcers.
 
 
AWPA is  also concerned about the large number of political prisoners in West 
Papua, the majority jailed merely because the were involved in peaceful 
demonstrations where their national flag, the Morning Star was raised. 
 
In July  2007,  Indonesia's Constitutional Court declared unconstitutional 
articles 154 and 155 of Indonesia's Criminal Code, commonly known as the "hate 
sowing" (Haatzai Artikelen) offenses. Articles 154 and 155 criminalized "public 
expression of feelings of hostility, hatred or contempt toward the government" 
and prohibited "the expression of such feelings or views through the public 
media."  These articles have been used to target activists, students, and human 
rights defenders to try and silence political discussion and  limit free 
expression in Indonesia.
 
A series of articles  from 1999 to 2002 refer to the Human Rights Bill of 1999 
. The law concerning protection of  human rights  of political prisoners is 
referred to in Article 4 of Law 39  in the Indonesian Constitution in  1999. In 
that same Law 39  in Article 6 , paras 1 and 2  particular mention is made of 
protection of rights of Indigenous people, including land rights.
 
Republic of Indonesia legislation  number 39 of 1999 concerning  human rights
Article 4 
The right to life, the right to not to be tortured, the right to freedom of the 
individual, to freedom of thought and conscience, the right not to be enslaved, 
the right to be acknowledged as an individual before the law, and the right not 
to be prosecuted retroactively under the law are human rights that cannot be 
diminished under any circumstances whatsoever.
Article 6 
(1) In the interests of upholding human rights, the differences and needs of 
indigenous peoples must be taken into consideration and protected by the law, 
the public and the Government. 
(2) The cultural identity of indigenous peoples, including indigenous land 
rights, must be upheld, in accordance with the development of the times.
 
AWPA  urges   the Indonesian Government to release all West Papuan political 
prisoners  imprisoned under these laws (contrary to Indonesia's constitution)  
as a sign of good faith to the West Papuan people.
 
Yours sincerely
 
Joe Collins
Secretary
AWPA (Sydney)


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[proletar] Story Saudi Arabia's voices of discontent

Reff: Untuk melihat video footage, click situs dibawah ini :


http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/03/20113812947713373.html#

Inside 
Story Saudi Arabia's voices of discontent 
Are social reforms enough to avert a revolution in the kingdom?
Inside Story Last Modified: 08 Mar 2011 13:56 GMT 

Saudi Arabia has mobilised thousands of troops to try to quell rising dissent 
in the kingdom. Protestors have called for a 'day of rage' and are using social 
network sites to rally protestors.
 
But will King Abdullah's announcement of billions of dollars worth of social 
reforms be enough to stave off a revolution? And is the House of Saud really 
listening to the growing voices of discontent?

There are three main population centres in the vast Arabian Peninsula state, 
where demonstrations could emerge:  The capital Riyadh, which has a population 
of more than four million, the main port city of Jeddah, with a population of 
more than two million and the Shia Muslim areas of the Eastern Province, which 
sit on much of the vast reserves of oil in the kingdom.

Joining the programme to discuss these issues are Abdulaziz Alkhames, a 
campaigner for Saudi Human Rights Centre; Mai Yamani, the author of Changed 
Identities: the challenge of the new generation in Saudi Arabia; and Khaled 
Almaeena, the editor-in-chief of the English-language daily Arab News.

This episode of Inside Story aired from Monday, March 7, 2011.


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[proletar] Tawang, "pemerhati dunia" dan angka 19


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[proletar] VP Boediono to receive honorary doctorate in Perth

Refleksi : Waktu SBY ke Australia tahun lalu tidak diberi gelar "Honory
Docterate"? Jadi kalah dengan Boedi. Sekalipun tidak diberikan gelar tsb
kepada SBY, tetapi SBY tidak pulang dengan tangan hampa. Diberikan bantuan US$
250,-- juta untuk kaum miskin Indonesia. Mudahan-mudahan uang tsb tidak hilang
dimakan rayap, melainkan bisa sampai dengan selamat kepada yang sangat
membutuhkannya.

http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/68882/vp-boediono-to-receive-honorary-doctorate-in-perth

VP Boediono to receive honorary doctorate in Perth
Mon, March 7 2011 17:23 | 477 Views

Boediono. (ANTARA)

"The core of the visit is in a effort to step up the already good relation
between Indonesia and Australia."
Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Vice President Boediono is slated to visit Australia
from March 9-13 to receive an honorary doctorate from the University of Western
Australia in Perth.

Besides, the vice president would also have a business meeting with the local
businessmen during the visit.

"The honorary doctorate will be awarded to the vice president because he is
considered to have given lot of meritorious services to the people during his
career in the government so far," vice presidential spokesman Yopie Hidayat
told newsmen at the vice presidential office here on Monday.

Yopie said Vice President Boediono would visit not only Perth but also Canberra
and Sydney.

He said the vice president obtained his bachelor`s degree from the University
of Western Australia with a Colombo Plan scholarship.

While in Perth, Vice President Boediono would attend a conference organized by
Australian think tank The Zone, and be the keynote speaker on the occasion.

"The vice president will also speak about Indonesia`s economic development and
its impact on Southeast Asia and Asia," Yopie Hidayat said, adding that
Boediono would also inspect a number of ocean wave energy technology centers in
Western Australia and meet with Governor Kim Hames.

On March 11 the vice president and his entourage would go to Canberra to meet
with Australian Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan and to attend a gathering with
Indonesian community there.

After spending one day in Canberra, Boediono would go to Sydney on March 12 to
meet with Australian business community to talk on Indonesia`s economic
progress and business opportunities Australian businessmen could avail of in
Indonesia.

"The core of the visit is in a effort to step up the already good relation
between Indonesia and Australia and continue to be strengthened in the future,"
Yopie Hidayat said.

Yopie said that during the visit, the vice president would be accompanied among
others by Trade Minister Mari Elka Pangestu, Finance Minister Agus
Martowardoyo, and State Minister for Administrative Reforms EE Mangindaan.
(Uu.O001/HAJM/F001)

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[proletar] Tawang yang otaknya sudah ciut, "pemerhati dunia", numerologi dan Luxenberg..


Tawang yang otaknya sudah ciut, "pemerhati dunia", numerologi dan Luxenberg..

Satu lagi nih: 

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Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

Anjing.

Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjng?

Nah anda itu adalah manusia beremtal anjng yang suka menggongong asal memfitnah.

Saya kutip tulisan saya untuk membuktikan bahwa anda itu menipu.

Anjing.

Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjng?

Nah anda itu adalah manusia bermental  anjing yang suka menggongong asal 
memfitnah.



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[proletar] Re: Kkejadian di Timur Tengah akan berpengaruh terhadap golongan ekstrim kanan

Saya yakin hal itu akan terjadi...

Hizb ut-Tahrir jelas akan mengkerut dan nggak akan sering buka bacot lagi.
 
FPI, saya yakin, akan dicampakkan nanti oleh polisi dan para habib khotbahnya 
juga cuman bisa didengar disekitar Petamburan sono..

Lagian PKS juga sudah membuka diri kok...


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Wong Matengwit  wrote:
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> sebentar lagi kalau ada kesempatan,sebgaian panganutnya di Indonesia akan
> mengikuti. kontradiksi utama Indonesia salah satunya memang mengarah ke
> situ. dengan demikian bagi yang berakar pada islam lokal ala NU mesti
> memperkuat barisannya dengan yang tidak seekstrim mereka.
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> > Eropa dengan membunuh van Gogh, membom London, Madrid dan nuntut syariah
> > juga akan sadar bahwa mereka berada di masyarakat yang justru diingini oleh
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> > merasa ngeri dengan Islam itu juga akan sadar bahwa orang Islam, termasuk
> > mereka yang hidup di Eropa dan bukan hanya yang hidup di Timur Tengan dan
> > Afrika Utara, bisa menjadi demokrat dan menghormati hak-hak azasi manusia,
> > artinya, secara bertahap, meninggalkan syariah yang buas, kejam, keji, zalim
> > ganas lagi biadab itu.
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[proletar] Kesia-siaan pameran kedunguan dan sebaran fitnah dan dusta yang dilakukan


Pameran kedunguan dan kebusukan serta kenistaan fikiran yang menjijikkan dengan 
sebaran fitnah dan dusta yang dilakukan oleh orang Islam yang memang 
dungu-dungu kayak babi itu sungguh sia-sia...

Kenyataan akan tetap sama seperti yang ditunjukkan orang kafir disini, yaitu:

- al-Mushnaf itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah..

- hadits dansirahnabi itu MUSTAHIL ada isinya yagn sahih..

Artinya, ajaran agama taik anjing Islam yang bukan saja dungu, tapi juga buas, 
kejam, keji, zalim, ganas buas dan biadab itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong 
dan kibulan orang Arab primitif.







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[proletar] Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya yang malang...


Hasan Basri ketangkap basah ngibul...

ayub yahya ketangkap basah pamer kedunguan...

Lalu mereka bergabing ke gerombolan orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak babi dan 
jadi tukang fitnan dan penyebar dusta yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

Menyedihkan.






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[proletar] Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...


Saya  ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam tipikal itu 
telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak mereka menjadi 
segede otak oustiti..

 





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Re: [proletar] Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

2011-03-09 Thread David Silalahi

bhuahahahaha

pasti banyak yang nyamber tuh kalo ditambahin perkataan kayak
begitu...hahahaha...

2011/3/9 Jusfiq 

>
>
>
> Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet
> oustiti...
>
> Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam tipikal itu
> telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak mereka
> menjadi segede otak oustiti..
>
>  
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[proletar] Re: Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

Diantara yang berebut nyamber @D_SH & Pak @Yusfiq cs. Tentulah iyo?
Jelas, nDeboost dkk cukup jadi penonton atau penggembira.
Teruskan.
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wrote:
>
> bhuahahahaha
>
> pasti banyak yang nyamber tuh kalo ditambahin perkataan kayak
> begitu...hahahaha...
>
> 2011/3/9 Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@...
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet
> > oustiti...
> >
> > Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam
tipikal itu
> > telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak
mereka
> > menjadi segede otak oustiti..
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[proletar] Re: Tawang yang dungu & angka 19, Sato Sakaki dan Baha'i.....

Kalik kalau Pak @Yusfiq milih nulis angka, masih pakai Romawi. Namun
karena sedikit cerdas, latin dia pakai
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[proletar] Re: Da`i: TKI Harus Tunjukkan Diri dari Negara Besar

nT omdo, bisanya cuma itu ya?
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>
> Refleksi :  Tanpa ucapan nasehat  duta besar Da'i,  Dengan TKI 
dibayar gaji terendah dan  tanpa perlindungan hukum  mereka sudah
menampilkan diri  bahwa mereka dari negeri  besar segalanya. Besar
penipuan terhadap rakyat, besar jumlah koruptor,  besar jumlah kaum
kemiskinan, bersar jumlah pembesar pembohong, apa lagi yang kurang
besarnya.
>
>
http://www.antaranews.com/berita/248844/dai-tki-harus-tunjukkan-diri-dar\
i-negara-besar
>
> Da`i: TKI Harus Tunjukkan Diri dari Negara Besar
> Minggu, 6 Maret 2011 23:13 WIB | 995 Views
>
>
> Duta Besar Indonesia untuk Malaysia, Da'i Bachtiar (FOTO ANTARA/R.
Rekotomo )
>
> Kuala Lumpur (ANTARA News) - Duta Besar Republik Indonesia untuk
Malaysia, Da`i Bachtiar meminta tenaga kerja Indonesia harus mampu
menunjukkan diri datang dari negara besar yang merantau ke Malaysia,
bukan untuk meminta-minta tapi turut membangun negeri jiran itu.
>
> "Tunjukkan anda datang dari negara besar yang punya potensi dan turut
membantu pembangunan Malaysia," kata Da`i dengan suara lantang dihadapan
para TKI yang hadir dalam acara Karnival Nusantara diselenggarakan
Perhimpunan Masyarakat Indonesia di Malaysia (Permai) di lapangan Sultan
Sulaiman, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Minggu.
>
> Dikatakannya, Indonesia memang berterima kasih kepada pemerintah
Malaysia, namun sebaliknya, Malaysia juga berterima kasih karena
kehadiran para TKI di negeri itu juga untuk kemajuan ekonominya.
>
> Oleh karenanya, kata Da`i, dirinya sangat sedih apabila ada warga
Indonesia yang melakukan kriminal di Malaysia. Tapi sebaliknya dirinya
sangat bangga bila warga Indonesia menunjukkan prestasinya termasuk di
tingkat perguruan tinggi.
>
> "Tolong jangan sampai Dubes RI di Malaysia malu karena tindak kriminal
yang dilakukan orang Indonesia," ungkapnya.
>
> "Kita semua harus mampu menjaga hubungan saling menguntungkan di kedua
belah pihak," tegasnya.
>
> Da`i selanjutnya mengutip perkataan mantan Perdana Menteri Malaysia,
Tun Mahathir Mohamad yang berbunyi "Kalau diseberang sini, Malaysia
tidak dijajah Inggris, ataupun diseberang sana, Indonesia tidak dijajah
Belanda, apakah ada Malaysia dan Indonesia,"
>
> Kutipan ini, menurut Da`i menunjukkan bahwa sejarah nenek moyang ke
dua bangsa serumpun ini, dulunya bersatu.
>
> "Banyak keturunan Indonesia di negeri ini, begitupula sebaliknya
bangsa Melayu adalah satu rumpun. Jadi kita harus mempererat hubungan
tersebut," kata Da`i.
>
> Dikatakanya, hubungan antar kedua pemerintahan sejauh ini terbina
dengan baik dan tidak ada masalah.
>
> Begitupula dengan hubungan bisnis antar pelaku usaha di kedua negara
juga berjalan lancar dan terus menunjukkan peningkatan yang positif.
>
> "Bahkan pengusaha Malaysia (para pemimpin perusahaan) dalam suatu
pertemuan telah mengeluarkan resolusi yang menyatakan meningkatkan
investasinya ke Indonesia pada 2011," kata Da`i dengan menyebutkan
investasi Malaysia di Indonesia diantaranya untuk sektor kelapa sawit,
pertambangan dan infrastruktur.
>
> Selanjutnya, hubungan persaudaraan dan persahabatan kedua belah pihak
juga terus diperkuat dengan meningkatkan rasa persaudaraan bangsa
serumpun.
>
> Oleh karena itu, kata Da`i, jembatan untuk mendekatkan hubungan
masyarakat kedua negara ini harus diperkokoh dan menjadi tugas bersama
baik secara individu dan antar masyarakat.
>
> "Menjadi tugas individu dan warga masyarakat untuk mempererat hubungan
kedua negara ini," kata Da`i.
>
> Sementara itu, Ketua Permai, M Machrodji Maghfur pada saat mengukuhkan
kepengurusan permai untuk masa bakti 2011-2013 mengingatkan agar mereka
bekerja secara iklas membangun silahturahmi antar sesama warga Indonesia
di Malaysia dengan menjunjung tinggi harkat dan martabat bangsa
Indonesia.
>
> "Kepada teman-teman di Permai diharapkan bersatu demi kepentingan
bangsa Indonesia tanpa memandang dari mana asalnya. Sehingga keberadaan
Permai ini menjadi wadah untuk meningkatkan komunikasi positif antar
sesama warga Indonesia di negeri ini," ungkapnya.
>
> Sedangkan acara Karnival Nusantara, selain d ramaikan bazar makanan
Indonesia juga dimeriahkan atas kehadiran penyanyi terkenal Indonesia,
Dewi Yull.
>
> Dewi membawakan sejumlah lagu-lagu yang menjadi hit di dalam negeri
seperti "Jangan ada dusta diantara kita" yang dipopulerkan bersama
almarhum Broery Pesolima serta lagu berjudul "Jujur" dari grup band
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>
> Berita Terkait
>   a.. FIFA Larang Nurdin Maju pada Kongres PSSI
>   b.. Kemlu: Masih Ada 61 WNI di Libya
>   c.. KBRI Kairo Kembali Evakuasi 13 TKI dari Libya
>   d.. KBRI Kairo Kembali Evakuasi 13 TKI dari Libya
>   e.. 60 Persen Permasalahan TKI di Malaysia Terkait Gaji
> Video
>   a.. TKI Tak Boleh Berangkat Tanpa Sertifikat
>   b.. Pemerintah Akan Benahi Nasib TKI
>   c.. Polisi Tangkap Dua Pengirim TKI
>
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[proletar] Re: House panel to examine Muslim radicalization

Bagus, tanya kenapa
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wrote:
>
> Kongres AS akan menganalisa mengapa orang islam itu pada jadi radikal,
mbunuhi orang, bunuh diri, ribut, demo, gak mau salaman natalan, anti
babi, menghancurkan gereja, masjid, dan segala macam,
>
> Sudah bisa kutebak hasilnya...
>
>
>
> House panel to examine Muslim radicalization
>
> By Jeremy Pelofsky
>
> WASHINGTON | Wed Mar 9, 2011 1:10am EST
>
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives will investigate
radicalization in the American-Muslim community, sparking outrage that
the probe is a witchhunt akin to the 1950s anti-Communist campaign.
>
> With al Qaeda and its affiliates openly trying to recruit Americans
and Muslims inside the United States for attacks, House Homeland
Security Committee Chairman Peter King called congressional hearings on
the subject "absolutely essential".
>
> "I am facing reality, my critics are not," King said on MSNBC. "Al
Qaeda is changing its tactics, they realize that it's very difficult to
attack from the outside, they're recruiting from within."
>
> King, who will lead a hearing on Thursday, has questioned the
cooperation by Muslim Americans with U.S. law enforcement authorities
and accused mosques of being a breeding ground for radicalization.
>
> His office did not respond to a request for comment.
>
> "I think there's positive to come from this if people are open to
hearing what comes out of the hearings, and not just a soundbite or
two," said Juan Carlos Zarate, a Bush administration terrorism adviser
who is now at the Center for Strategic & International Studies.
>
> Critics say the hearings smack of the effort in the 1950s by
Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy, who presided over congressional
hearings to expose and ostracize Communists and their sympathizers in
the United States.
>
> Muslim and civil rights advocates have condemned King's assertions,
countering that Muslims in the United States are being unfairly targeted
and pointing to tips they have provided to authorities in the past.
>
> "This hearing does not represent the mainstream view," said imam
Shamsi Ali, who organized a protest against the probe in New York.
>
> "I don't see any reason for that perception about Muslims not
cooperating," he said, noting a Muslim vendor alerted authorities to the
failed Times Square car bombing in 2010.
>
> That incident, coupled with an alleged bomb plot uncovered last month
involving a 20-year-old Saudi student studying in Texas, are among
several plots that have boosted concerns by U.S. officials that al Qaeda
and its affiliates are determined to strike inside the United States any
way they can.
>
> "I think the administration realizes they have to take on this issue
of domestic violent extremism," Zarate said, noting the administration
has been a little slow to do so. "They've got to take it on because it
is of increasing concern and more importantly it's becoming a divisive
issue."
>
> MUSLIM LEADERS 'PART OF THE SOLUTION'
>
> To that end, the White House on Sunday sent deputy National Security
Adviser Denis McDonough to reassure Muslim-American leaders, telling
them they are "not part of the problem, you're part of the solution" in
the fight against terrorism.
>
> Some Muslim leaders have said maintaining the trust of their community
is essential to foil plots, and the hearings could jeopardize that as
well as feed a view from outside the United States that the country is
anti-Muslim. The FBI has also been criticized for sending undercover
agents into mosques.
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[proletar] Re: Christians and Muslims clash in Cairo

Sepada?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Christian ini "kemarin" ikut berjemur ga numbangkan Mubarak? Atau
cukup
> berdoa di greja?
> Syiah di Afghan  "dimusuhi" karena mereka ini "mendekatkan diri" dg
> tentara koalisi. Yg Kristen Mesir gimana? nT punya sumber kopasan?
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" ambon@ wrote:
> >
> > http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article308450.ece
> >
> > Christians and Muslims clash in Cairo
> > By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI | AP
> >
> > Published: Mar 9, 2011 00:28 Updated: Mar 9, 2011 00:28
> >
> > CAIRO: Clashes between Christians and Muslims escalated on Tuesday
> with thousands of people burning tires, smashing parked cars and
cutting
> off a main road despite military moves to control a day of violent
> protests in Egypt's capital.
> >
> > Tensions have been simmering between Egypt's minority Christian
> community and its Muslim majority after a Muslim mob burned a church
in
> a Cairo suburb. Egypt's military rulers have since pledged to rebuild
> the church and Prime Minister Essam Sharaf met Monday with the
> protesters outside the state-television building.
> >
> > On Tuesday, thousands of Christians demonstrated in locations around
> the city, saying they were being persecuted. But several of the
> gatherings descended into violence when the two sides confronted each
> other in the streets.
> >
> > About 2,000 people cut off a main road running on the eastern side
of
> the city and pelted motorists with rocks. A crowd of garbage
collectors
> known as the zabaleen - who are predominantly Christians - also
> demonstrated on a main street near their neighborhood demanding equal
> rights and better quality of life.
> >
> > Tensions remain high in Egypt nearly a month after mass protests
> ousted President Hosni Mubarak after nearly 30 years in power. The
> upheaval has plunged many parts of the country into turmoil, with
> virtually incessant protests, strikes and a higher rate of violent
> crime.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy

Kwkwk ... Rakyatnya Paus ya termasuk nT pada. Nah mulai mbalelo kan?
Baikan luh jadi pengopas, ga usah nyoba ganti profesi.

Sekarang sejak adanya crude oil dipompa di KSA maka tanah suci rame-rame
didiami banyak kafirin, bule maupun ga. Mosok sih nT dkk bencong ga tau?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> Pengetahuanmu terlalu miskin, di tempat Paus tidak ada rakyat!
>
> Tanah neraka yang disebut suci tempat memperkosa TKW  atau lazim
dikenal Arab Saudia adalah target  mendatang, dan Allah tak akan bisa
menolong malapetaka akan dialami
>
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: ndeboost
>   To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:26 PM
>   Subject: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy
>
>
>
>   Yah, tinggal nunggu menjalar ke kerajaan para Paus.
>
>   --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" ambon@ wrote:
>   >
>   >
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR201103\
0703899.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions
>   >
>   > After the revolution, establishing democracy
>   >
>   > By Roza Otunbayeva
>   > Tuesday, March 8, 2011
>   >
>   > BISHKEK, KYRGYZSTAN
>   >
>   > In the heart of Central Asia we are watching with solidarity as
events unfold in the Middle East. The "people power" that the world
witnessed in Tunisia and Egypt reminds us in Kyrgyzstan of our own
victory last year against a corrupt dictator. Nothing can be more moving
than to see humans celebrate their freedom. There are many skeptics and
cynics who warn against popular revolutions, citing the violence and
instability that they unleash, and the unpredictable consequences. There
are those who dismiss national uprisings as shows set up by foreign
governments, international media and terrorist groups - claiming that
millions of people are all on hallucinogenic drugs.
>   >
>   > To these critics, our response is clear: We are humans.
Irrationality may be simply part of our nature. Muslim or Christian,
black or white, we are wired that way: The Almighty provided us with
such a powerful sense of dignity that we cannot tolerate the denial of
our unalienable rights and freedoms, no matter what real or supposed
benefits are provided by "stable" authoritarian regimes. It is the magic
of people, young and old, men and women of different religions and
political beliefs, who come together in city squares and announce that
enough is enough. During such times we discover that the youth we had
always grumbled about as uninterested and apathetic are also patriotic,
brave and so selflessly heroic that they choose liberty even at the cost
of their lives.
>   >
>   > Having paid such a high price, we cannot squander the historic
opportunity we have to right past wrongs and to build a better state and
a more just society. Our experience, however, tells us that there is no
highway to democracy. In fact, toppling the dictator may well be the
easiest part.
>   >
>   > Each country faces a unique set of challenges. After years of
totalitarian leadership, most countries must first untangle the
suffocating net of draconian rules that had been dictated into
legislation by the ruling few, who acted in their own interest. In
Kyrgyzstan, we brought together all political parties and a wide array
of civil society leaders to draft the new constitution. After several
weeks of frequent televised debates and a thorough search for a national
compromise, the Constitutional Council agreed to transform our country
from a strong presidential system into a parliamentary republic. Within
three months of the fall of the Bakiyev regime, the new constitution was
put to a national referendum.
>   >
>   > Whatever good intentions people have to build a democracy, no one
should be tricked into holding elections overnight. After years of
one-person rule it is important to first ensure that political parties
are able to compete around the country and have access to voters, that
there is a free press to provide for national dialogue, and that civic
associations have space and the opportunity to advocate their interests.
Most important, the rule of law must be provided for. This is the
hardest part. For years our societies have been repressed. Newly found
freedoms can be too intoxicating. Shortly after revolutions, law
enforcement bodies are mostly discredited and too weakened to provide
for the public order. This is where we most tragically stumbled:
Interethnic conflict between the Kyrgyz and Uzbeks took many lives last
year and almost tore apart our country.
>   >
>   > Support from the international community is vital. Sympathy and
understanding from immediate neighbors are even more crucial. The people
of Kyrgyzstan are forever indebted to the friends, near and far, who
helped us through our challenging times.
>   >
>   > The new country we are building is inclusive and grounded in the
rule of law. We choose to celebrate our differences and to resolve them
not in the streets but in parliament, via democ

[proletar] Re: Yesus tidak menghukum mati Pezina?

Otak Yusfiq, otak bonobo, otak-atik
Oo lala, gedenya sak kadal's ya Pak?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> Otak babi..
>
> Otak binatang.
>
> Masih ngurusin Yesus saat orang kafir seperti "great pertender" dan
"sebuah
> kenyataan" sudah membuktikan dengan telak bahwa buku taik anjing
al-Miushaf yang
> anda jadikan kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah yang nota bene
tidak
> berbukti ada.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> >
> > (KOPASAN)
> >
> >
> > Terdapat sebuah kisah yang, konon, dinisbahkan terjadi dalam
Alkitab,
> > bahwa pada suatu hari orang Yahudi berkesempatan mendapatkan satu
> > momentum untuk menyerahkan Yesus kepada pengadilan Romawi untuk
disalib.
> >
> > Jika kisah ini benar, karena seorang teolog bernama Bart Ehrman
dalam
> > bukunya Misquoting Jesus meragukan kisah ini benar terjadi, kejadian
ini
> > berlangsung ketika Yesus mengajar di Bait Allah. Ahli-ahli Taurat
dan
> > Farisi mencari Yesus ketika beliau dikerumuni orang banyak. Niat
mereka
> > adalah untuk mencobai/menjebak Yesus dan membuat beliau bersalah
> > dihadapan pemimpin-pemimpin termasuk pemimpin dalam pemerintahan
sipil
> > (Romawi). Pokok pencobaan itu dasarnya adalah bagaimana Yesus
memandang
> > Taurat Musa.
> >
> > Para pemimpin agama itu mencari kasus yang kira-kira mencolok mata,
> > apakah Yesus akan mempersalahkan perempuan yang berzinah dan
membiarkan
> > ia dihukum rajam sesuai ketentuan Taurat. Tetapi apabila Yesus
berbuat
> > demikian, maka Yesus akan dipersalahkan oleh penguasa sipil
(Romawi).
> > Sebab penguasa sipil Romawi tidak akan membiarkan hukuman itu
terjadi,
> > karena hukuman semacam ini tidak terdapat pada hukum-hukum sipil
Romawi.
> > Jadi kasus semacam ini dirasa cukup oleh pemimpin agama itu, apakah
> > Yesus akan mengelak keputusan penghukuman dan membiarkan dosa yang
> > diperbuat perempuan itu.
> >
> > Mereka menempatkan Yesus sebagai hakim atas kesalahan dan dosa yang
> > dilakukan oleh perempuan yang berzinah tersebut. Kendati hal itu
mereka
> > lakukan dengan maksud untuk mencobai Yesus (ayat 6a), namun alasan
yang
> > mereka ajukan begitu sangat serius, yakni perbedaan 2 hukum (hukum
agama
> > dan hukum sipil).
> >
> > Jika menuruti hukum Taurat Musa, perempuan yang demikian harus
dihakimi
> >  dihukum mati dengan cara dilempari dengan batu sampai mati
(ayat
> > 5, bdk. Imamat 20:10; Ulangan 22:22-24). Meski hal ini jelas
merupakan
> > tipe "penghakiman massa". Penghakiman dalam konteks demikian
> > tidak hanya dilakukan sebagai reaksi spontan atas tindak kejahatan
dan
> > dosa perzinahan tetapi juga semakin menemukan motifnya yang suci
yakni
> > sebagai usaha pembelaan atas tegaknya hukum Taurat.
> >
> > Dengan kata lain, melempari si pendosa itu dengan batu sampai mati
> > adalah suatu kebenaran menurut hukum. Tetapi pada masa itu hal
semacam
> > ini tidak sesuai hukum sipil Romawi. Jika hal ini dilakukan maka
> > mudharat akan lebih besar .
> >
> > Sang Nabi mengerti maksud mereka adalah untuk membenturkan beliau
dengan
> > penguasa Romawi, sehingga peristiwa Syahidnya Nabi Yahya atau
Yohanes
> > ditangan kejam Herodes Penguasa Yahudi wakil Romawi akan terulang
pada
> > diri beliau..
> >
> > Berikut kisahnya :
> >
> > Yohanes 8:2-11
> > 8:2 Pagi-pagi benar sang Nabi berada lagi di Bait Allah, dan seluruh
> > rakyat datang kepada beliau. Ia duduk dan mengajar mereka.
> > 8:3 Maka ahli-ahli Taurat dan orang-orang Farisi membawa kepada
beliau
> > seorang perempuan yang kedapatan berbuat zinah.
> > 8:4 Mereka menempatkan perempuan itu di tengah-tengah lalu berkata
> > kepada Yesus: "Rabi, perempuan ini tertangkap basah ketika ia sedang
> > berbuat zinah.
> > 8:5 Musa dalam hukum Taurat memerintahkan kita untuk melempari
> > perempuan-perempuan yang demikian. Apakah pendapat-Mu tentang hal
> > itu?"
> > 8:6 Mereka mengatakan hal itu untuk mencobai beliau, supaya mereka
> > memperoleh sesuatu untuk menyalahkan beliau. Tetapi Yesus membungkuk
> > lalu menulis dengan jari beliau di tanah.
> > 8:7 Dan ketika mereka terus-menerus bertanya kepada beliau, beliau
pun
> > bangkit berdiri lalu berkata kepada mereka: "Barangsiapa di antara
> > kamu tidak berdosa, hendaklah ia yang pertama melemparkan batu
kepada
> > perempuan itu."
> > 8:8 Lalu belaiu membungkuk pula dan menulis di tanah.
> > 8:9 Tetapi setelah mereka mendengar perkataan itu, pergilah mereka
> > seorang demi seorang, mulai dari yang tertua. Akhirnya tinggallah
Yesus
> > seorang diri dengan perempuan itu yang tetap di tempatnya.
> > 8:10 Lalu Yesus bangkit berdiri dan berkata kepadanya: "Hai
> > perempuan, di manakah mereka? Tidak adakah seorang yang menghukum
> > engkau?"
> > 8:11 Jawabnya: "Tidak ada, Tuan." Lalu kata Yesus: "Aku pun
> > tidak menghukum engkau. Pergilah, dan jangan berbuat dosa lagi mulai
> > dari sekarang."
> >
> > Kisah ini biasanya dipakai para pengikut Nasrani sekte Paul untuk
> > menjustifikasi bahwa Yesus datang untuk menghapus hukum Taurat..
> >
> >

[proletar] Gaddafi jets take off from Tripoli

Africa
Gaddafi jets take off from Tripoli
Reports say three private planes are heading to three different directions, 
having taken off from Libyan capital.

Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 11:36 GMT

Al Jazeera is getting reports that three of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's 
private planes have taken off from a military airstrip near Tripoli.

Karl Stango-Navarra, a journalist based in Valletta, Malta, told Al Jazeera 
that the three jets are flying in three different directions.

"One is suggested to be Vienna, the other is supposed to be Athens in Greece, 
and the other is Cairo, Egypt," Stango-Navarra said.

"Obviously, nobody knows who may be aboard the planes," he said. However, he 
added that one of the planes, which are being monitored by NATO, has been known 
to have made flights over the past two weeks to Belarus and Jordan.

The AFP news agency also has reports of a plane belonging to Gaddafi with 
unknown passengers on board crossing into Greek airspace en route to Egypt on 
Wednesday.

"A private plane of Gaddafi has crossed Greek airspace en route to Egypt,"  a 
Greek defence ministry source told AFP, adding: "We do not know who is on 
board."

A Greek air force source said the plane was a Libyan Airlines Falcon 900  that 
normally carries VIPs, though the pilot denied that dignitaries were on  board.

"The pilot tabled a flight plan from Tripoli to Cairo," the air force  source 
said, adding: "The plane crossed southwest of the island of Crete around  an 
hour ago. It should be landing in Cairo by now."





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[proletar] Aljazeera: Tunisia dissolves Ben Ali party

Africa
Tunisia dissolves Ben Ali party
Tunis court announces the end of the Rally for Constitutional Democracy in 
accordance with demands from protesters.
Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 09:24 GMT

Pro-democracy protesters have been calling for the party's dismantling since 
Ben Ali was ousted [EPA]

A Tunisian court has dissolved the former ruling party of the country's deposed 
leader Zine El Abidine Ben Ali.

The court in Tunis, the capital, announced the end of the Rally for 
Constitutional Democracy (RCD) on Wednesday, but the party said it would appeal 
against the decision.

The chamber "decided to dissolve the Rally for Constitutional Democacy and to 
liquidate its assets and funds," the court said in its ruling, triggering a 
burst of applause.

Pro-democracy activists have been demanding the party's dismantling since Ben 
Ali was ousted on January 14 after a popular uprising, that triggered unrest 
across the Arab world.

The RCD was suspended from official activities in February by the interior 
ministry, after Ben Ali fled the country.

The party, which claimed a membership of two million people out of a population 
of around 10.4 million, was accused of violating the constitution to set up a 
one-party "totalitarian regime" under Ben Ali.

Since it was created in 1988, the party had never been audited and had never 
filed annual accounts, the interior ministry said





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Re: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy

Mengapa rakyat Arab di semenjanjung Arab dan Afrika utara berontak, bukankah 
mereka dipimpin oleh WahyuAllah Islam dan rasul Muhammad? Kalau wahyu memberi 
kenyaman hidup kepada umat negara, tentu saja tidak berontak. Arab Saudia, 
tanah suci, yang tiap tahun ratusan ribu penduduk pergi cium batu hitam saja 
beontak, juga rakyatnya berontak. Untuk supaya lebih jelas lihat ini dari TV 
Aljazeerai : 

http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/03/20113812947713373.html#




  - Original Message - 
  From: ndeboost 
  To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:55 PM
  Subject: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy



  Kwkwk ... Rakyatnya Paus ya termasuk nT pada. Nah mulai mbalelo kan?
  Baikan luh jadi pengopas, ga usah nyoba ganti profesi.

  Sekarang sejak adanya crude oil dipompa di KSA maka tanah suci rame-rame
  didiami banyak kafirin, bule maupun ga. Mosok sih nT dkk bencong ga tau?

  --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
  >
  > Pengetahuanmu terlalu miskin, di tempat Paus tidak ada rakyat!
  >
  > Tanah neraka yang disebut suci tempat memperkosa TKW atau lazim
  dikenal Arab Saudia adalah target mendatang, dan Allah tak akan bisa
  menolong malapetaka akan dialami
  >
  >
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: ndeboost
  > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:26 PM
  > Subject: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy
  >
  >
  >
  > Yah, tinggal nunggu menjalar ke kerajaan para Paus.
  >
  > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" ambon@ wrote:
  > >
  > >
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR201103\
  0703899.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions
  > >
  > > After the revolution, establishing democracy
  > >
  > > By Roza Otunbayeva
  > > Tuesday, March 8, 2011
  > >
  > > BISHKEK, KYRGYZSTAN
  > >
  > > In the heart of Central Asia we are watching with solidarity as
  events unfold in the Middle East. The "people power" that the world
  witnessed in Tunisia and Egypt reminds us in Kyrgyzstan of our own
  victory last year against a corrupt dictator. Nothing can be more moving
  than to see humans celebrate their freedom. There are many skeptics and
  cynics who warn against popular revolutions, citing the violence and
  instability that they unleash, and the unpredictable consequences. There
  are those who dismiss national uprisings as shows set up by foreign
  governments, international media and terrorist groups - claiming that
  millions of people are all on hallucinogenic drugs.
  > >
  > > To these critics, our response is clear: We are humans.
  Irrationality may be simply part of our nature. Muslim or Christian,
  black or white, we are wired that way: The Almighty provided us with
  such a powerful sense of dignity that we cannot tolerate the denial of
  our unalienable rights and freedoms, no matter what real or supposed
  benefits are provided by "stable" authoritarian regimes. It is the magic
  of people, young and old, men and women of different religions and
  political beliefs, who come together in city squares and announce that
  enough is enough. During such times we discover that the youth we had
  always grumbled about as uninterested and apathetic are also patriotic,
  brave and so selflessly heroic that they choose liberty even at the cost
  of their lives.
  > >
  > > Having paid such a high price, we cannot squander the historic
  opportunity we have to right past wrongs and to build a better state and
  a more just society. Our experience, however, tells us that there is no
  highway to democracy. In fact, toppling the dictator may well be the
  easiest part.
  > >
  > > Each country faces a unique set of challenges. After years of
  totalitarian leadership, most countries must first untangle the
  suffocating net of draconian rules that had been dictated into
  legislation by the ruling few, who acted in their own interest. In
  Kyrgyzstan, we brought together all political parties and a wide array
  of civil society leaders to draft the new constitution. After several
  weeks of frequent televised debates and a thorough search for a national
  compromise, the Constitutional Council agreed to transform our country
  from a strong presidential system into a parliamentary republic. Within
  three months of the fall of the Bakiyev regime, the new constitution was
  put to a national referendum.
  > >
  > > Whatever good intentions people have to build a democracy, no one
  should be tricked into holding elections overnight. After years of
  one-person rule it is important to first ensure that political parties
  are able to compete around the country and have access to voters, that
  there is a free press to provide for national dialogue, and that civic
  associations have space and the opportunity to advocate their interests.
  Most important, the rule of law must be provided for. This is the
  hardest part. For years

[proletar] Aljazeera: Saudi scholars forbid protest calls

Middle East
Saudi scholars forbid protest calls

Warning follows similar announcement by interior ministry that security forces 
were authorised to crack down.

Last Modified: 06 Mar 2011 21:45 GMT

Saudi Arabia's leading religious authorities have issued a statement forbidding 
public protests and petitions for reforms in the country.

The warning from Saudi's council of senior scholars on Sunday follows a similar 
announcement by secular authorities a day earlier.

The 10-member council's statement, carried by state news agency SPA, said that 
"the correct way in sharia [Islamic law] of realising common interest is by 
advising, which is what the Prophet Muhammad established".

"Reform and advice should not be via demonstrations and ways that provoke 
strife and division, this is what the religious scholars of this country in the 
past and now have forbidden and warned against," the statement said.

"The council warns of deviant ideological and party-political connections since 
this nation is one and will adhere to the ways of the pious ancestors.

"The kingdom has not and will not allow ideas from the West or the East that 
take away from this Islamic identity and divide the unity of the whole."

A day earlier, the interior ministry said that protests violate Islamic law and 
the kingdom's traditions, and reminded potential demonstrators that security 
forces were authorised to crack down on public protests.

Protesters arrested

Saudi authorities have grown nervous after more than 17,000 people backed a 
call on the social networking website Facebook to hold two demonstrations in 
the kingdom this month, the first scheduled to take place on March 11.

In the capital Riyadh on Friday, dozens of men gathered at the exit of the 
al-Rajhi mosque, one of the city's most important, repeating slogans denouncing 
"oppression" and the monarchy, according to witnesses.

Three men were arrested, witnesses said.

There were also demonstrations last week in the area of Qatif and neighbouring 
Awwamiya in Saudi's Eastern Province, with demonstrators from the country's 
minority Shia population calling for the release of prisoners they said were 
bing held without trial.

The area is sensitive as the province is near Bahrain, which has also seen 
protests in recent weeks by the country's majority Shia Muslim against their 
Sunni Muslim rulers.

Videos posted on the March 11 Facebook page appeared to show heavily armed 
police confronting protesters.

Twenty-two people were arrested following the Qatif demonstrations, Saudi 
activists said.

Activist freed

Authorities made a limited concession on Sunday, according to a report by the 
Associated Press, by releasing Tawfiq al-Amer, a Shia cleric who was arrested 
last week after he called for a constitutional monarchy.

Sultan al-Qassemi, a columnist for the UAE's National newspaper, told Al 
Jazeera: "Protests have always been shunned in Saudi Arabia, and they've never 
been allowed by law, so this is not a new development it's just a confirmation 
of the ban.

"However, we've seen perhaps several hundred - some say several thousand - 
people go out in Qatif in the Eastern Province. I don't think this ban is going 
to change their mind, these individuals expect some reforms."

With pro-democracy uprisings throughout the Arab world, Gulf states are 
increasingly concerned. Both Bahrain and Oman have witnessed protests in recent 
weeks.

Asked what democratic model Gulf states could turn to, al-Qassemi said: "Kuwait 
is decades ahead of any Gulf state. Kuwaiti women several years ago won the 
right to vote and run in the parliament through democratic means.

"Kuwait is two or three decades ahead of any other Gulf states. The closest I 
can see to it is Bahrain, which has a very active parliament, and then of 
course the other Gulf states come behind."





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Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

akut dah !! ... 

dirinya sendiri di fitnah...

dirinya sendiri dikatain anjing...





--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

 







 



  



  
  
  Anjing.



Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjng?



Nah anda itu adalah manusia beremtal anjng yang suka menggongong asal memfitnah.

Saya kutip tulisan saya untuk membuktikan bahwa anda itu menipu.

Anjing.

Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjng?

Nah anda itu adalah manusia bermental  anjing yang suka menggongong asal 
memfitnah.



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:

>

> perlu copas tulisan lo sendiri ??

> 

> runyam banget sih idup lo pig 

> 

> dirinya sendiri di fitnah...

> 

> 

> ---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

> Â 

> 

> 

> 

> Saya bilang "Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga." 

> 

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> Â 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:

> 

> >

> 

> > artinya, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag

> 

> > 

> 

> > masa bahasa indonesia semudah itu nggak bisa...

> 

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> > 

> 

> > ---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

> 

> > 

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> Â 

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> > 

> 

> > Karena saya bilang "Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja 
> > tidak menerima tunjangan itu." lantas dia bilagn "kalo nggak punya anak ... 
> > nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag), tapi tetap terima toeslag kan 
> > ?!"

> 

> > 

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> > 

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> > 

> 

> > Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga.

> 

> > 

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> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:

> 

> > 

> 

> > >

> 

> > 

> 

> > > masih malu2 ngakunya...

> 

> > 

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> > > 

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> > 

> 

> > > kalo nggak punya anak ... nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag),

> 

> > 

> 

> > > tapi tetap terima toeslag kan ?!

> 

> > 

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> > > 

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> > 

> 

> > > hidden confirmed... hehehe

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> > 

> 

> > > --On Tue, 3/8/11, ajeg  wrote:

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> > 

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> > > Ãƒâ€š 

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> > > 

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> > 

> 

> > > --- "Jusfiq"  wrote:

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> > > > Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja tidak 

> 

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[proletar] Aljazeera (Sandy Tolan ) Pushing for a Palestinian Tahrir

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Pushing for a Palestinian Tahrir
Feeling abandoned by their political leadership, Palestinian youth are pushing 
for change.
Sandy Tolan Last Modified: 05 Mar 2011 14:55 GMT

Palestinian youth have been inspired by uprisings in Arab countries 
[GALLO/GETTY]

On a cool January evening at the height of Tunisia's Jasmine Revolution, Najwan 
Berekdar and a few friends were sitting at a smoky café in Ramallah, puffing on 
water pipes and strategising. "We were talking about what's happening in 
Tunisia, and we decided, maybe this is the momentum - we should use it," 
Berekdar remembers weeks later from her office at Sharek, a youth-oriented 
Palestinian NGO. "We were, like, five people. We were sitting with our laptops 
and we said, 'Okay, let's make an event.' We wanted something to encourage 
people to go out."

Within days, masses of Egyptians began filling Tahrir Square, and 27-year-old 
Berekdar, her friends and like-minded Palestinian youths were even more 
inspired. "We wanted to send this message that it is time for us to do 
something. And obviously we can do it. Look at other people. If they managed to 
do it, we can do it."

The demonstrations these Palestinian youths helped organise were quickly 
banned, sometimes with clubs, by a Palestinian Authority (PA) with deep 
historic and political ties to the Tunisian and Egyptian dictatorships. But 
then other groups began forming their own demonstrations. And Berekdar and her 
friends, through email loops and a face-to-face "thinking group" of about 20 
academics and intellectuals, organised new protests. "We were suppressed by the 
PA a second time and a third time," she says. Soon Palestinian authorities 
began to investigate the group.

"One of our group members was called by the police, and by the intelligence, 
and by - I don't know, we have four security forces, I think," Berekdar says. 
(Actually, there are five.) "They stayed at his home until one in the morning." 
The mukhabarat assumed the young man was the ringleader, Berekdar recalls with 
amusement. They pressed him for details of the hierarchy of what is in fact a 
loose, ever-shifting coalition that only recently got a name: Hirak Shebab, or 
Youth Movement. It is an informal, mostly leaderless group - a concept the 
centralised PA does not seem to grasp. 

As Berekdar spoke, at 1:30 on a recent afternoon, an email came in from a 
friend. About the demonstration that day at 6:00: Should they do it at Manara 
Square in the centre of Ramallah or outside the Muqata, the PA headquarters? 
Berekdar was not sure. Scarcely four hours before the event, she seemed 
unhurried, and confident of Hirak Shebab's ability to get sufficient numbers to 
show up at the last minute.

Berekdar is trying to involve young people, both unaffiliated and from 
different Palestinian parties, including Hamas. She estimates that so far about 
2,000 people connect with the group's message pushing for democracy and 
fundamental change. "It's about changing the whole discourse of the 
Palestinians," she says. "It is time for us to start doing something. Because 
obviously the political leadership is not doing anything."

The 'pulse of Palestine'

In the revolutionary spirit spreading across the Middle East, Palestinian youth 
groups have become a small but important catalyst in a building wave of 
discontent with PA repression and complicity in a failed "peace process" backed 
by the US. The groups' actions are sparked not only by events in the region, 
but by the US veto of the UN Security Council's condemnation of Israeli 
settlements. A widening circle of Palestinian groups are calling for an end to 
negotiations with Israel, an end to the political division between the West 
Bank and Gaza and wholesale reform of the PA and the Palestine Liberation 
Organisation (PLO). Some advocate dissolving the PA completely.

"Fatah and Hamas have failed Palestinian society," says Nader Said, a 
Palestinian pollster and political analyst. Youth, he says, "represent the 
pulse and conscience of Palestine". In Gaza, Said says, young people "are the 
ones who have demonstrated in the middle of the shooting, covering their faces 
with paper bags," so that security forces would refrain from possibly shooting 
a brother or cousin. "They are the soul of the Palestinians," but by 
themselves, "they're not strong enough to carry the emancipation agenda."

Yet the message is resonating well beyond the youth groups. As Palestinians 
under a 43-year occupation watch their Arab neighbours fight for democracy, 
pressure increases on the PA to reform itself - or at least, to appear to do 
so. Faced with the threat of the US veto, the PA sought to burnish its 
resistance credentials by refusing to yield to American pressure to call off 
the Security Council vote. And Salam Fayyad, the prime minister, recently sent 
a message to Palestinian youth via Facebook, asking for input as he forms a new 
Palestinian cabinet. Within hours, he rece

Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba


Gawat.

ayub yahya yang dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta serta bangsat penyebar 
fitnah ini bukan saja nggak bisa becus berbahasa Inggeris dan - tentu saja - 
nggak ngerti tulisan yang jelas-jelas bilang Hezbollah itu adalah milisia 
syiah..

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[proletar] Repost: Yesus tidak menghukum mati Pezina?

Adakah sesiapa disana?

(KOPASAN)

Terdapat sebuah kisah yang, konon, dinisbahkan terjadi dalam Alkitab,
bahwa pada suatu hari orang Yahudi berkesempatan mendapatkan satu
momentum untuk menyerahkan Yesus kepada pengadilan Romawi untuk disalib.

Jika kisah ini benar, karena seorang teolog bernama Bart Ehrman dalam
bukunya Misquoting Jesus meragukan kisah ini benar terjadi, kejadian ini
berlangsung ketika Yesus mengajar di Bait Allah. Ahli-ahli Taurat dan
Farisi mencari Yesus ketika beliau dikerumuni orang banyak. Niat mereka
adalah untuk mencobai/menjebak Yesus dan membuat beliau bersalah
dihadapan pemimpin-pemimpin termasuk pemimpin dalam pemerintahan sipil
(Romawi). Pokok pencobaan itu dasarnya adalah bagaimana Yesus memandang
Taurat Musa.

Para pemimpin agama itu mencari kasus yang kira-kira mencolok mata,
apakah Yesus akan mempersalahkan perempuan yang berzinah dan membiarkan
ia dihukum rajam sesuai ketentuan Taurat. Tetapi apabila Yesus berbuat
demikian, maka Yesus akan dipersalahkan oleh penguasa sipil (Romawi).
Sebab penguasa sipil Romawi tidak akan membiarkan hukuman itu terjadi,
karena hukuman semacam ini tidak terdapat pada hukum-hukum sipil Romawi.
Jadi kasus semacam ini dirasa cukup oleh pemimpin agama itu, apakah
Yesus akan mengelak keputusan penghukuman dan membiarkan dosa yang
diperbuat perempuan itu.

Mereka menempatkan Yesus sebagai hakim atas kesalahan dan dosa yang
dilakukan oleh perempuan yang berzinah tersebut. Kendati hal itu mereka
lakukan dengan maksud untuk mencobai Yesus (ayat 6a), namun alasan yang
mereka ajukan begitu sangat serius, yakni perbedaan 2 hukum (hukum agama
dan hukum sipil).

Jika menuruti hukum Taurat Musa, perempuan yang demikian harus dihakimi
 dihukum mati dengan cara dilempari dengan batu sampai mati (ayat
5, bdk. Imamat 20:10; Ulangan 22:22-24). Meski hal ini jelas merupakan
tipe "penghakiman massa". Penghakiman dalam konteks demikian tidak hanya
dilakukan sebagai reaksi spontan atas tindak kejahatan dan dosa
perzinahan tetapi juga semakin menemukan motifnya yang suci yakni
sebagai usaha pembelaan atas tegaknya hukum Taurat.

Dengan kata lain, melempari si pendosa itu dengan batu sampai mati
adalah suatu kebenaran menurut hukum. Tetapi pada masa itu hal semacam
ini tidak sesuai hukum sipil Romawi. Jika hal ini dilakukan maka
mudharat akan lebih besar .

Sang Nabi mengerti maksud mereka adalah untuk membenturkan beliau dengan
penguasa Romawi, sehingga peristiwa Syahidnya Nabi Yahya atau Yohanes
ditangan kejam Herodes Penguasa Yahudi wakil Romawi akan terulang pada
diri beliau..

Berikut kisahnya :

Yohanes 8:2-11
8:2 Pagi-pagi benar sang Nabi berada lagi di Bait Allah, dan seluruh
rakyat datang kepada beliau. Ia duduk dan mengajar mereka.
8:3 Maka ahli-ahli Taurat dan orang-orang Farisi membawa kepada beliau
seorang perempuan yang kedapatan berbuat zinah.
8:4 Mereka menempatkan perempuan itu di tengah-tengah lalu berkata
kepada Yesus: "Rabi, perempuan ini tertangkap basah ketika ia sedang
berbuat zinah.
8:5 Musa dalam hukum Taurat memerintahkan kita untuk melempari
perempuan-perempuan yang demikian. Apakah pendapat-Mu tentang hal itu?"
8:6 Mereka mengatakan hal itu untuk mencobai beliau, supaya mereka
memperoleh sesuatu untuk menyalahkan beliau. Tetapi Yesus membungkuk
lalu menulis dengan jari beliau di tanah.
8:7 Dan ketika mereka terus-menerus bertanya kepada beliau, beliau pun
bangkit berdiri lalu berkata kepada mereka: "Barangsiapa di antara
kamu tidak berdosa, hendaklah ia yang pertama melemparkan batu kepada
perempuan itu."
8:8 Lalu belaiu membungkuk pula dan menulis di tanah.
8:9 Tetapi setelah mereka mendengar perkataan itu, pergilah mereka
seorang demi seorang, mulai dari yang tertua. Akhirnya tinggallah Yesus
seorang diri dengan perempuan itu yang tetap di tempatnya.
8:10 Lalu Yesus bangkit berdiri dan berkata kepadanya: "Hai
perempuan, di manakah mereka? Tidak adakah seorang yang menghukum
engkau?"
8:11 Jawabnya: "Tidak ada, Tuan." Lalu kata Yesus: "Aku pun
tidak menghukum engkau. Pergilah, dan jangan berbuat dosa lagi mulai
dari sekarang."


KISAH INI BIASANYA DIPAKAI PARA PENGIKUT NASRANI SEKTE PAUL UNTUK
MENJUSTIFIKASI BAHWA YESUS DATANG UNTUK MENGHAPUS HUKUM TAURAT..

Bahkan kami menjawab,

Nabi Isa Al Masih atau dalam lidah bahasa Yunani dibahasakan menjadi
Nabi Yesus Kristus, tidak pernah permissive terhadap pelanggaran dosa.
Beliau sang Nabi sangat terkenal akan kegigihannya membela Hukum ALLAH.
Bahkan beliau mencela para Yahudi yang tidak bersedia menegakkan Hukum
ALLAH dengan melakukan hukum rajam kepada anak yang durhaka kepada kedua
orangtuanya, simak Perihal kemarahan sang Nabi kepada para Yahudi yang
enggan melakukan hukum rajam dalam Matius 15

15:3 Tetapi jawab Yesus kepada mereka: "Mengapa kamupun melanggar
perintah Allah demi adat istiadat nenek moyangmu?
15:4 Sebab Allah berfirman: Hormatilah ayahmu dan ibumu; dan lagi: Siapa
yang mengutuki ayahnya atau ibunya pasti dihukum mati.

Maka ketika disodorkan kisah Yesus tidak mau merajam

Re: Akhirnya ngaku.. [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Ba

Pakai logat Minang Pak.
'Dah lupa but CB?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
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> ayub yahya yang dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta serta bangsat penyebar 
> fitnah ini bukan saja nggak bisa becus berbahasa Inggeris dan - tentu saja - 
> nggak ngerti tulisan yang jelas-jelas bilang Hezbollah itu adalah milisia 
> syiah..
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> ...eh ternyata tulisan saya dalam bahasa Indonesiapun dia tidak bisa.
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> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> > Nah anda itu adalah manusia beremtal anjng yang suka menggongong asal 
> > memfitnah.
> > 
> > Saya kutip tulisan saya untuk membuktikan bahwa anda itu menipu.
> > 
> > Anjing.
> > 
> > Anda tahu apa yang namanya anjng?
> > 
> > Nah anda itu adalah manusia bermental  anjing yang suka menggongong asal 
> > memfitnah.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > perlu copas tulisan lo sendiri ??
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > runyam banget sih idup lo pig 
> > 
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> > > dirinya sendiri di fitnah...
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> > > ---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
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> > > Ã 
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> > > Saya bilang "Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun 
> > > juga." 
> > 
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> > > Ã 
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> > 
> > > > artinya, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
> > > > masa bahasa indonesia semudah itu nggak bisa...
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> > > > ---On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
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> > > > Karena saya bilang "Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu 
> > > > saja tidak menerima tunjangan itu." lantas dia bilagn "kalo nggak punya 
> > > > anak ... nggak terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag), tapi tetap terima 
> > > > toeslag kan ?!"
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> > > > Nggak ada saya bilang bahwa kami menerima toeslag apapun juga.
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> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> > > > > masih malu2 ngakunya...
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> > > > > tapi tetap terima toeslag kan ?!
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> > > > > --On Tue, 3/8/11, ajeg  wrote:
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Pengakuan TULUS..[proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

juspig udah akut... dirinya sendiri di fitnah

- bagi keluarga yg punya anak, terima tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag)
- bagi yg TIDAK PUNYA ANAK, terima toeslag minus kindertoeslag

lha, nulis sendiri.. fitnah sendiri
dirinya sendiri dikatain anjing..

gw baru tau, ada anjing gonggong-in dirinya sendiri... hehehe



--- On Tue, 3/8/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

  dia tidak tahu bahwa tunjangan anak (kindertoeslag) itu diberikan kepada 
keluarga yang punya anak.



Keluarga yang tidak punya anak seperti kami tentu saja tidak menerima tunjangan 
itu. 


 





 





 



  






  

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Re: [proletar] Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

jelaslah ada yg nyamber..
theory itu udah terbukti.. 
ada di salah satu otak anaknya ulama minang

as reminder only... hehehe

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, David Silalahi  wrote:

bhuahahahaha

pasti banyak yang nyamber tuh kalo ditambahin perkataan kayak
begitu...hahahaha...

2011/3/9 Jusfiq 

> Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet
> oustiti...
>
> Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam tipikal itu
> telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak mereka
> menjadi segede otak oustiti..
>
>  
>

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[proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy

Sudah tak ingatkan loh. nT ga usah coba ganti profesi.
nT masih ga bisa bedakan antara ajaran Muhammad saw sama manusianya.
Dulu, ada paus yang mbunuh paus, juga ada paus yang sifilis disamping
ada paus mati ditikam seorang suami yang isterinya sedang diselingkuhi
paus. Mana ada ajaran Yesus a.s kek gitu? Lalu akhir-akhir ini, nT kira
nutupin dan yang main belakang tindakan terpuji? Mana ada Yesus a.s
ngajar main belakang? Bersyukurnya nDeboost ga pernah ndaku suci bin
bebas dosa kek para paus maupun rohaniwan-wati. Luh coba respon, Yesus
a.s KATEBE di baptis, tanya kenapa? Apa ybs ada yang ngajarin mainan
full dosa?

Lalu nyiumin batu-hitam nT kira apaan? Ga dicium juga gpp. kok. Kita
juga shalat ga ada hubungannya sama batu-hitam ini.
nT ga sadar kalau ada tanduk kristus, batu kristus,mezbah kristus
disamping, ehm, Yesus Kristus? (OOT: Yang minyaki Yesus a.s, KATEBE
adalah pezina kan?)

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny"  wrote:
>
> Mengapa rakyat Arab di semenjanjung Arab dan Afrika utara berontak,
bukankah mereka dipimpin oleh WahyuAllah Islam dan rasul Muhammad? Kalau
wahyu memberi kenyaman hidup kepada umat negara, tentu saja tidak
berontak. Arab Saudia, tanah suci, yang tiap tahun ratusan ribu penduduk
pergi cium batu hitam saja beontak, juga rakyatnya berontak. Untuk
supaya lebih jelas lihat ini dari TV Aljazeerai :
>
>
http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/insidestory/2011/03/201138129477\
13373.html#
>
>
>
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: ndeboost
>   To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:55 PM
>   Subject: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing democracy
>
>
>
>   Kwkwk ... Rakyatnya Paus ya termasuk nT pada. Nah mulai mbalelo kan?
>   Baikan luh jadi pengopas, ga usah nyoba ganti profesi.
>
>   Sekarang sejak adanya crude oil dipompa di KSA maka tanah suci
rame-rame
>   didiami banyak kafirin, bule maupun ga. Mosok sih nT dkk bencong ga
tau?
>
>   --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" ambon@ wrote:
>   >
>   > Pengetahuanmu terlalu miskin, di tempat Paus tidak ada rakyat!
>   >
>   > Tanah neraka yang disebut suci tempat memperkosa TKW atau lazim
>   dikenal Arab Saudia adalah target mendatang, dan Allah tak akan bisa
>   menolong malapetaka akan dialami
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > - Original Message -
>   > From: ndeboost
>   > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:26 PM
>   > Subject: [proletar] Re: After the revolution, establishing
democracy
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Yah, tinggal nunggu menjalar ke kerajaan para Paus.
>   >
>   > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" ambon@ wrote:
>   > >
>   > >
>  
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR201103\
\
>   0703899.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions
>   > >
>   > > After the revolution, establishing democracy
>   > >
>   > > By Roza Otunbayeva
>   > > Tuesday, March 8, 2011
>   > >
>   > > BISHKEK, KYRGYZSTAN
>   > >
>   > > In the heart of Central Asia we are watching with solidarity as
>   events unfold in the Middle East. The "people power" that the world
>   witnessed in Tunisia and Egypt reminds us in Kyrgyzstan of our own
>   victory last year against a corrupt dictator. Nothing can be more
moving
>   than to see humans celebrate their freedom. There are many skeptics
and
>   cynics who warn against popular revolutions, citing the violence and
>   instability that they unleash, and the unpredictable consequences.
There
>   are those who dismiss national uprisings as shows set up by foreign
>   governments, international media and terrorist groups - claiming
that
>   millions of people are all on hallucinogenic drugs.
>   > >
>   > > To these critics, our response is clear: We are humans.
>   Irrationality may be simply part of our nature. Muslim or Christian,
>   black or white, we are wired that way: The Almighty provided us with
>   such a powerful sense of dignity that we cannot tolerate the denial
of
>   our unalienable rights and freedoms, no matter what real or supposed
>   benefits are provided by "stable" authoritarian regimes. It is the
magic
>   of people, young and old, men and women of different religions and
>   political beliefs, who come together in city squares and announce
that
>   enough is enough. During such times we discover that the youth we
had
>   always grumbled about as uninterested and apathetic are also
patriotic,
>   brave and so selflessly heroic that they choose liberty even at the
cost
>   of their lives.
>   > >
>   > > Having paid such a high price, we cannot squander the historic
>   opportunity we have to right past wrongs and to build a better state
and
>   a more just society. Our experience, however, tells us that there is
no
>   highway to democracy. In fact, toppling the dictator may well be the
>   easiest part.
>   > >
>   > > Each country faces a unique set of challenges. After years of
>   totalitarian leadership, most countries must first untangle the
>   suffocating net of draconi

Bls: [proletar] Sialan...hujan....

yg "sialan" dan "apes" itu adalah anda, bukan hujan dan pagi

--- Pada Rab, 9/3/11, Jusfiq  menulis:

Dari: Jusfiq 
Judul: [proletar] Sialan...hujan
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 9 Maret, 2011, 2:49 PM







 



  



  
  
  

Saya sudah bersiap-suap mau jogging, sudah push-up, sudah minum susu asam 
segelas dan makan sepotong roti...



Lalu, sambil ganti pakaian, saya layangkan pandangan ke jendela kaca dikamar 
tamu kami:  wah penuh dengan tetesan air hujan..



Sialan...



Saya lihat radar hujan (buienradar) di interhet..



Betul-betul sialan.



Yang paling nyebelin tu hujan juga, menurut buienradar, nggak bakalan terus 
menerus tapi setelah dua puluh menit akan berhenti, lalu bakal  turun lagi, 
lalu bakal berenti lagi



Apes pagi ini.






 





 



  







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Bls: [proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

Tidk ada bukti anda "meliput" kenaikan khomeini. Tapi terbukti anda membutuhkan 
kacang agar "gampang ereksi"

--- Pada Rab, 9/3/11, Jusfiq  menulis:

Dari: Jusfiq 
Judul: [proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi
Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 9 Maret, 2011, 4:06 PM







 



  



  
  
  

Ngomong-ngomong tentang kacang pistachio yang memang rada mahal itu, saya 
selalu teringat bahwa ketika saya dikirim majallah "Tempo" meliput kenaikan 
Khomeiny (saya sampai ke Iran setelah Syah minggat, jadi saya tidak meliput 
kejatuhan Syah) saya membawa beberapa bungkus kacang pistachio itu sebagai 
oleh-oleh untuk Marlene disamping caviar yang saya beli di bandar udara...



Di Leiden, saya ikut mencicipi.



Duh enaknya.



Tidak ada kacang psitachio yang saya kemudian saya beli di Leiden  yang bisa 
menyaingi rasa pistachio dari Iran itu...



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "wawan"  wrote:

>

> KOMPAS.com — Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio?  
> Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga 
> cukup mahal ini.

> 

> Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
> positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.

> 

> Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
> Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
> pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
> impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).

> 

> Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 
> gram  pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi 
> dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 
> relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE 
> dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang. 

> 

> Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan saat 
> berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran darah 
> menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui 
> pengukuran ultrasound.

> 

> "Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
> tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri dan 
> meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
> pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari Atatürk 
> Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.

> 

> Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
> perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios 
> juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset 
> sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan 
> impotensi atau DE.

> 

> Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda untuk segera membeli kacang 
> pistachio, para peneliti menegaskan bahwa hasil penelitian ini masih dalam 
> tahap awal. Jadi, bila Anda memang sedang mengalami problem fungsi seksual, 
> berkonsultasi dengan dokter adalah langkah paling bijak daripada sekadar 
> mengudap kacang impor ini.

>






 





 



  







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Bls: [proletar] Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

Lho, biji bapakmu kok dibawa-bawa

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Saya  ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...



Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam tipikal itu 
telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak mereka menjadi 
segede otak oustiti..






 





 



  







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Re: [proletar] Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet oustiti...

yg mau menjilat pantat korengan si jusfiq emang cuman orang nasarani macam 
david silalhi dan grepe. Dua2nya dongok emang.

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, David Silalahi  wrote:

bhuahahahaha

pasti banyak yang nyamber tuh kalo ditambahin perkataan kayak

begitu...hahahaha...

2011/3/9 Jusfiq 

> Saya ingat lagi istilah yang dulu suka saya pakai: biji peler monyet

> oustiti...

>

> Dulu saya pakai istilah itu untuk menujukkan bahwa orang Islam tipikal itu

> telah berhasil, by a manner of speaking, meredusir volume otak mereka

> menjadi segede otak oustiti..

>

>  

>

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[proletar] Re: Yesus a.s KATEBE (17)-Utk Orang Yahudi, Tauk!

Ngaca Pak.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
>
> "ndeboost" sudah keleleran, karena orang kafir seperti "great
pretender" dan "sebuah kenyataan" sudah membuktikan dengan telak bahwa
buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh "ndeboost" itu
tidak berisi wahyu Allah.
>
> Lalu "ndeboost" ributin Bible yagn sudah sejak berabad-abad disikapi
secara kritis oleh orang Nasrani.
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Richan S richansitumorang@ wrote:
> >
> > yang menulis dan senang tulisan itu kan hanya pengejek saja :D
> >
> > On 9/03/2011 8:26 AM, ndeboost wrote:
> > >
> > > Dari fihak mana nT para Christians merasa Yahudi?
> > >
> > > Lk 23:38 Ada juga tulisan di atas kepala-Nya: "Inilah raja Orang
Yahudi."
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: 75) Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus atau Tidak? http://jawab-kontradiksi-alkitab.blogspot.com

Alfa atau Alif keduanya disebut di Bibel, jadi bukan nDeboost.
Lalu apa sesungguhnya kata yang diucapkan Yesus a.s? Ikut yang LAI06
atau LAI76? Atau, adakah Yesus a.s memang pernah ke Yunani atau ke Arab
sedemikian sehingga penulis Bibel nyatat sabda beliau saw dalam kedua
bahasa tsb saat disana? Keknya ga tercatat demikian, karena di Injil ga
ada pernyataan Yesus a.s yg sejalan.

Lalu bagaimana dg al-awwal dan al-akhir? Khayalan nT (dkk)

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Richan S  wrote:
>
> orang Yunani bilang Alfa, orang Arab bilang Alif
> tentu yang benar Alif..karena yang jawab pro Arab hehe
>
> bagi kaum tertentu, hanya satu standard bahasa..yakni bahasa Arab.
Kalo
> berbeda dari Arab ini langsung dianggapnya salah semua. tapi yang
begini
> kan harus ada dan harus dimaklumi juga..
>
> perihal eli dan eloi sama saja dengan hal di bawah ini, tergantung
> dialek yang digunakan penulis ketika mencatat nya sebab bahasa yang
umum
> digunakan masa itu antara Ibrani dan Aramik.
>
> rs
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > Bekas Muslim siapmurtad@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Eli bhs Ibrani, Eloi bhs Aram, jadi diterjemahkan ke bahasa lain.
Sama
> > > seperti Ndeboost teriak Pergi, lalu karena Ndeboost nulisnya
> > ditujukan buat
> > > orang Inggris, maka Ndeboost tulislah "GO".
> > >
> > > 2011/3/8 ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yang diteriskkan Yesus saat sekarat Eli apa Eloi?
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > , siap murtad 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 75) Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus atau
> > > > Tidak?http://jawab-kontradiksi-alkitab.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > > 75) Dalam
> > > > > Matius 26:48-50 dikatakan Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus,
sedangkan
> > > > > dalam Yohanes 8:3-12 disebutkan Yudas tidak dapat mendekati
Yesus
> > > > untuk
> > > > > menciumnya?
> > > > > JAWAB : (Kategori : Salah mengutip ayat)
> > > > > 26:48
> > > > > Orang yang menyerahkan Dia telah memberitahukan tanda ini
kepada
> > > > > mereka: "Orang yang akan kucium, itulah Dia, tangkaplah Dia."
26:49
> > > > Dan segera ia maju mendapatkan Yesus dan berkata: "Salam Rabi,"
lalu
> > > > mencium Dia. 26:50
> > > > > Tetapi Yesus berkata kepadanya: "Hai teman, untuk itukah
engkau
> > > > > datang?" Maka majulah mereka memegang Yesus dan menangkap-Nya.
> > (Matius
> > > > 26:48-50)
> > > > > Yohanes 18:3-12 18:3
> > > > > Maka datanglah Yudas juga ke situ dengan sepasukan prajurit
dan
> > > > > penjaga-penjaga Bait Allah yang disuruh oleh imam-imam kepala
dan
> > > > > orang-orang Farisi lengkap dengan lentera, suluh dan senjata.
18:4
> > > > > Maka Yesus, yang tahu semua yang akan menimpa diri-Nya, maju
ke
> > depan
> > > > > dan berkata kepada mereka: "Siapakah yang kamu cari?" 18:5
> > > > > Jawab mereka: "Yesus dari Nazaret." Kata-Nya kepada mereka:
"Akulah
> > > > > Dia." Yudas yang mengkhianati Dia berdiri juga di situ
bersama-sama
> > > > > mereka. 18:6 Ketika Ia berkata kepada mereka: "Akulah Dia,"
> > > > mundurlah mereka dan jatuh ke tanah. 18:7 Maka Ia bertanya pula:
> > > > "Siapakah yang kamu cari?" Kata mereka: "Yesus dari Nazaret."
18:8
> > > > Jawab Yesus: "Telah Kukatakan kepadamu, Akulah Dia. Jika Aku
yang kamu
> > > > cari, biarkanlah mereka ini pergi." 18:9
> > > > > Demikian hendaknya supaya genaplah firman yang telah
dikatakan-Nya:
> > > > > "Dari mereka yang Engkau serahkan kepada-Ku, tidak seorang pun
yang
> > > > > Kubiarkan binasa." 18:10
> > > > > Lalu Simon Petrus, yang membawa pedang, menghunus pedang itu,
> > > > > menetakkannya kepada hamba Imam Besar dan memutuskan telinga
> > kanannya.
> > > > > Nama hamba itu Malkhus. 18:11 Kata Yesus kepada Petrus:
"Sarungkan
> > > > pedangmu itu; bukankah Aku harus minum cawan yang diberikan Bapa
> > > > kepada-Ku?" 18:12
> > > > > Maka pasukan prajurit serta perwiranya dan penjaga-penjaga
yang
> > > > disuruh
> > > > > orang Yahudi itu menangkap Yesus dan membelenggu Dia.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tampaknya
> > > > > pertanyaan di atas telah ditampilkan sebagai suatu
pertentangan
> > semu,
> > > > > karena tidak satupun ayat dalam Yohanes yang menyatakan
(seperti
> > yang
> > > > > dikemukakan oleh Shabbir) bahwa Yudas tidak dapat berada di
dekat
> > > > Yesus
> > > > > itu tidak ada hubungannya dengan apakah ia jadi mencium Yesus
atau
> > > > > tidak. Tampaknya Shabbir terlalu memaksakan pernyataan di
atas.
> > Bahwa
> > > > > Yohanes tidak menyebutkan sebuah ciuman, bukan berarti bahwa
Yudas
> > > > tidak
> > > > > menggunakan sebuah ciuman. Kita sering menemukan dalam
kitab-kitab
> > > > > Injil bahwa ada penulis yang dengan sengaja menuliskan
informasi
> > > > > tertentu sedangkan yang lainnya tidak. Tetapi itu tidak
berarti
> > bahwa
> > > > > keduanya bertentangan, melainkan sebagai saksi mata, mereka
melihat
> > > > > peristiwa dari maksud pandangan yang lain, sehingga mereka
> > menuliskan
> > > > > kesaksian-kesaksian berdasarkan apa yang mereka

[proletar] Re: Yesus a.s KATEBE (17)-Utk Orang Yahudi, Tauk!

Yg Crosstian Pauline ngerespon kok nT ga terima?
Memangnya nT merasa apa? Kwkwkwkwk 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> Otak babi..
>
> Otak binatang.
>
> Masih ngurusin Bible saat orang kafir seperti "great pertender" dan
"sebuah
> kenyataan" sudah membuktikan dengan telak bahwa buku taik anjing
al-Miushaf yang
> anda jadikan kitab suci itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah yang nota bene
tidak
> berbukti ada.
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote:
> >
> > Dari fihak mana nT para Christians merasa Yahudi?
> >
> > Lk 23:38 Ada juga tulisan di atas kepala-Nya: "Inilah raja Orang
Yahudi."
> >
>






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[proletar] Jusfiq dan Kontol...

sudah 3 hari kontol saya menunggu permintaan maaf dari jusfiq karena anda sudah 
melakukan fitnah dengan mengatakan kontol saya mencret.

saya menuntut jusfiq untuk berlutut dan berbicara kepada kontol saya, meminta 
maaf atas tuduhan dan fitnah anda terhadap kontol saya secara khusuk.  kontol 
saya tidak pernah mencret seperti tuduhan anda.







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[proletar] Re: Yesus a.s KATEBE (17)-Utk Orang Yahudi, Tauk!

Yang tak kopas asli kok. Kata atau kalimat "Inilah raja orang Yahudi" ga
dibantah Yesus kok, Yoh 18:37 (Re. postingan #302048). Atau nT merasa
lebih tahu yg ga demikian?

Mat 27:11 Lalu Yesus dihadapkan kepada wali negeri. Dan wali negeri
bertanya kepada-Nya: "Engkaukah raja orang Yahudi?" Jawab Yesus: "Engkau
sendiri mengatakannya."

Mrk 15:2 Pilatus bertanya kepada-Nya: "Engkaukah raja orang Yahudi?"
Jawab Yesus: "Engkau sendiri mengatakannya."

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Richan S  wrote:
>
> yang menulis dan senang tulisan itu kan hanya pengejek saja :D
>
> On 9/03/2011 8:26 AM, ndeboost wrote:
> >
> > Dari fihak mana nT para Christians merasa Yahudi?
> >
> > Lk 23:38 Ada juga tulisan di atas kepala-Nya: "Inilah raja Orang
Yahudi."
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[proletar] Re: 75) Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus atau Tidak? http://jawab-kontradiksi-alkitab.blogspot.com

Halo, siapa disana?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> "2.Ketakutan setengah mati sampai keringatnya keluar sak jagung2,jadi
dg
> Amrozy saja kalah kendel,soale calon Pengantin itu gak ada yg dijemput
> paksa."
>
> Kalah kendel maksudnya?
>
> Keknya "Yesus" bukan mati disalib namun mati ketakutan. Buktinya, yg
> dilarang diminum dia minum juga. Lalu bengok-bengok merasa di khianati
> tuhannya.
>
> Banyak kok yang disalib namun ga mati.
>
>
> http://www.hariankomentar.com/arsip/arsip_2008/mar_22/hl006.html
> 
> http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6301/gen1hires.jpg
> 
> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,841311,00.jpg
> 
>
> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/7401185_93326f34a4.jpg?v=0
>
> http://www.abcnyheter.no/files/images/2010-13/1270210851a798.jpg
> 
>
>
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6sQUIDVjIsIt-mt5mcDDkjzAG9AIQG\
\
> Y0aAxNt9sKxSc590dNGpA
>
 GY0aAxNt9sKxSc590dNGpA>
>
>
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" tawangalun@ wrote:
> >
> > Eloi Eloi lama sabahtani = Tuhan2 kenapa Engkau tinggalkan Aku.
> > Padahal sing bengok2 tadi Yesus sendiri yang jarene Tuhan,lo kok
> dirinya lupa sebagai Tuhan?Banyak kejanggalan2 menjelang mesias
disalib:
> > 1.Dia lupa bahwa dirinya Tuhan.
> > 2.Ketakutan setengah mati sampai keringatnya keluar sak jagung2,jadi
> dg Amrozy saja kalah kendel,soale calon Pengantin itu gak ada yg
> dijemput paksa.
> > 3.Pas hari H mesias malah ngumpet,setiap murid kon jaga malem biar
> kalau dari jauh kelihatan ada Romawi cepet2 bisa kabur.
> > 4.Padahal penyaliban itu tugas suci untuk nebus tapi kok Yesus
> kayaknya gak niat,malah ndonga sejadi jadinya ben gak ketangkep
> Romawi,gimana penyaliban bisa mulus kalau ybs ogah2-an?
> >
> > Shalom,
> > Tawangalun.
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Bekas Muslim siapmurtad@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Eli bhs Ibrani, Eloi bhs Aram, jadi diterjemahkan ke bahasa lain.
> Sama
> > > seperti Ndeboost teriak Pergi, lalu karena Ndeboost nulisnya
> ditujukan buat
> > > orang Inggris, maka Ndeboost tulislah "GO".
> > >
> > > 2011/3/8 ndeboost rambitesemak@
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yang diteriskkan Yesus saat sekarat Eli apa Eloi?
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, siap murtad 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 75) Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus atau
> > > > Tidak?http://jawab-kontradiksi-alkitab.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > > 75) Dalam
> > > > > Matius 26:48-50 dikatakan Yudas datang dan mencium Yesus,
> sedangkan
> > > > > dalam Yohanes 8:3-12 disebutkan Yudas tidak dapat mendekati
> Yesus
> > > > untuk
> > > > > menciumnya?
> > > > > JAWAB : (Kategori : Salah mengutip ayat)
> > > > > 26:48
> > > > > Orang yang menyerahkan Dia telah memberitahukan tanda ini
kepada
> > > > > mereka: "Orang yang akan kucium, itulah Dia, tangkaplah Dia."
> 26:49
> > > > Dan segera ia maju mendapatkan Yesus dan berkata: "Salam Rabi,"
> lalu
> > > > mencium Dia. 26:50
> > > > > Tetapi Yesus berkata kepadanya: "Hai teman, untuk itukah
engkau
> > > > > datang?" Maka majulah mereka memegang Yesus dan menangkap-Nya.
> (Matius
> > > > 26:48-50)
> > > > > Yohanes 18:3-12 18:3
> > > > > Maka datanglah Yudas juga ke situ dengan sepasukan prajurit
dan
> > > > > penjaga-penjaga Bait Allah yang disuruh oleh imam-imam kepala
> dan
> > > > > orang-orang Farisi lengkap dengan lentera, suluh dan senjata.
> 18:4
> > > > > Maka Yesus, yang tahu semua yang akan menimpa diri-Nya, maju
ke
> depan
> > > > > dan berkata kepada mereka: "Siapakah yang kamu cari?" 18:5
> > > > > Jawab mereka: "Yesus dari Nazaret." Kata-Nya kepada mereka:
> "Akulah
> > > > > Dia." Yudas yang mengkhianati Dia berdiri juga di situ
> bersama-sama
> > > > > mereka. 18:6 Ketika Ia berkata kepada mereka: "Akulah Dia,"
> > > > mundurlah mereka dan jatuh ke tanah. 18:7 Maka Ia bertanya pula:
> > > > "Siapakah yang kamu cari?" Kata mereka: "Yesus dari Nazaret."
18:8
> > > > Jawab Yesus: "Telah Kukatakan kepadamu, Akulah Dia. Jika Aku
yang
> kamu
> > > > cari, biarkanlah mereka ini pergi." 18:9
> > > > > Demikian hendaknya supaya genaplah firman yang telah
> dikatakan-Nya:
> > > > > "Dari mereka yang Engkau serahkan kepada-Ku, tidak seorang pun
> yang
> > > > > Kubiarkan binasa." 18:10
> > > > > Lalu Simon Petrus, yang membawa pedang, menghunus pedang itu,
> > > > > menetakkannya kepada hamba Imam Besar dan memutuskan telinga
> kanannya.
> > > > > Nama hamba itu Malkhus. 18:11 Kata Yesus kepada Petrus:
> "Sarungkan
> > > > pedangmu itu; bukankah Aku harus minum cawan yang diberikan Bapa
> > > > kepada-Ku?" 18:12
> > > > > Maka pasukan prajurit serta perwiranya dan penjaga-penjaga
yang
> > > > disuruh
> > > > > orang Yahudi itu menangkap Yesus dan membelenggu Dia.
>

Re: [proletar] Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

2011-03-09 Thread suryana

Habis Jogging minum teh hangat dan sambil ngemil kacang pistachio tak lupa 
sambil nge net asyik ngkali yah, jadi jago pus up dan push down. 
Huehueheuehuehue


sur.
- Original Message - 
From: "wawan" 


KOMPAS.com - Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio? 
Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga 
cukup mahal ini.

Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.

Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).

Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 
gram  pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi 
dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 
relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE 
dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang.

Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan 
saat berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran 
darah menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui 
pengukuran ultrasound.

"Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri 
dan meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari 
Atatürk Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.

Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios 
juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset 
sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan 
impotensi atau DE.

Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda 






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[proletar] Re: Yesus a.s KATEBE (17)-Utk Orang Yahudi, Tauk!

"ndeboost" sudah keleleran, karena orang kafir seperti "great
pretender" dan "sebuah kenyataan" sudah membuktikan dengan telak bahwa
buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh "ndeboost" itu
tidak berisi wahyu Allah.

Lalu "ndeboost" ributin Bible yagn sudah sejak berabad-abad disikapi
secara kritis oleh orang Nasrani.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost"  wrote:
>
> Ngaca Pak.
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > "ndeboost" sudah keleleran, karena orang kafir seperti "great
> pretender" dan "sebuah kenyataan" sudah membuktikan dengan telak bahwa
> buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh "ndeboost" itu
> tidak berisi wahyu Allah.
> >
> > Lalu "ndeboost" ributin Bible yagn sudah sejak berabad-abad disikapi
> secara kritis oleh orang Nasrani.
> >
> >
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Richan S richansitumorang@ wrote:
> > >
> > > yang menulis dan senang tulisan itu kan hanya pengejek saja :D
> > >
> > > On 9/03/2011 8:26 AM, ndeboost wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dari fihak mana nT para Christians merasa Yahudi?
> > > >
> > > > Lk 23:38 Ada juga tulisan di atas kepala-Nya: "Inilah raja Orang
> Yahudi."
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

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[proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog

anda sekitar 4-5 tahun yang lalu anda masih punya sepeda, lalu bercerita 
tentang bersepeda.  sekarang anda udah makin miskin dan sengsara, sepeda aja 
udah nggak punya lagi, lalu ceritanya jogging.

kesian...

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> How to Jog
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJm4zQJVbrY
>

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[proletar] Re: Jusfiq dan Kontol...(rezamautia, turutkan nasehat saya ini..)

Nah ikutilah nasehat saya ini: berentilah mengisap ganja, berentilah merokok 
tembakau seperti sigaret, berentilah mabok-mabokan, minum khamar jangan lebih 
dari dua atau tiga gelas se hari, maka besar kemungkinan anda tidak akan 
menderita premature ejaculation lagi.

Lantas mulai melakukan gerak badan, push-up dan jogging misalnya biar tu otak 
nggak terus mengkeret terus, bisa-bisa otak anda akan jadi lebih besar dari 
biji peler monyet ouistiti..

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> sudah 3 hari kontol saya menunggu permintaan maaf dari jusfiq karena anda 
> sudah melakukan fitnah dengan mengatakan kontol saya mencret.
> 
> saya menuntut jusfiq untuk berlutut dan berbicara kepada kontol saya, meminta 
> maaf atas tuduhan dan fitnah anda terhadap kontol saya secara khusuk.  kontol 
> saya tidak pernah mencret seperti tuduhan anda.
>

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copas bikin malu ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..

jadi anda kerjanya diperusahaan mana dan dapet pensiun dari perusahaan mana?

anda nggak pernah kerja, hidup parasit dan dipiara sama perempuan.




--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi - dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mailing list ini, dia tidak 
> melihat bahwa posting itu isinya sarat fitnah..
> 
> - "Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples"  dikibulkannnya 
> organisasi Islam, pada hal organisasi itu didirikan oleh orang Yahudi anggota 
> Partai Komunis Perancis (PCF) melawan ketidak adilan nazi selama perang dunia 
> ke II.
> 
> Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi HAM 
> PBB di Jenewa...
> 
> - Dan JustJoiningTheTribe itu juga ngibul bilang posting saya "on the 
> Internet are just about
> cursing and swearing at Muslims " pada hal yang saya sampaikan adalah 
> kenyataan tentang agama taik anjing Islam yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh orang 
> Islam.
> 
> Dia juga memfitnah bahwa posting saya cuman "licking the ass of his christian 
> friends." pada hal saya mengeritik dengan keras kesalahan orang Nasrani, tapi 
> saya memang menghargai apa yang bagus di ajaran Nasrani dan apa yang patut 
> dipuji dari sifat kebanyakan orang Nasrani.
> 
> Dan tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan saya difitnahnya menerima " financial 
> support by providing him with
> meals, accomodation and Internet connection." dari Malène. Dan saya juga 
> difitnahnya " allegedly financed
> by Leiden church."
> 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> >
> > FITNAH ??
> > syah-syah aja kalo itu sekedar pembelaan diri...
> > 
> > 
> > --On Tue, 3/8/11, utusan.allah  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mÃ¹ailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > sadar bahwa dialah yang kudu merasa malu karena dia menyediakan dirinya 
> > jadi penyebar fitnah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan orang Islam...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > gara2 cuma gw posting copas.. trus kalap
> > 
> > > percuma marah2 di milis pig
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > harusnya malu...
> > 
> > > copas dgn fitnah beda jauh lah..
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > copas yg ini pig ?!
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > >MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66) ini mengatakan:
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > >Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil
> > 
> > > >activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by
> > 
> > > >providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection.
> > 
> > > >He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > ---On Tue, 3/8/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > ayub yahya aadalah yang paling goblok diantara gerombolan orang-orang 
> > > dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta dan bangsat tukang fitnah yang 
> > > terdiri dari orang Islam dan Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya.. 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Dia bertanya apakah Hezbollah itu sunni pada hal berita yang 
> > > dikomentarinya dengan jelas bilang Hezbollah itu militia syiah...
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Dan..
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Dia menolak penghargaan yang jelas-jelas TIDAK diberikan kepadanya
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
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> > > 
> > 
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> > >  
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> > >  
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> > >   
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> > 
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> > 
> > > 
> > 
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> > 
> > >   
> > 
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> > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
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>






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[proletar] Re: jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
> 
> Belum tentu, bisa juga cuma: 
> 
> 1. kehilangan arah... (nyasar ke kandang bebek) 
> 2. malfungsi jadi sikat gigi.. 
> 3. (ada yang mau nambahin?) 
> 4. ... 
> 5. ... 
> 

bisa juga si jusfiq 'too stone to fuck' sehingga arahnya melesat ke pantat 
(salah kamar).  beda tipis sih...

>  
> > --- Jusfiq  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Asuransi jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di negeri Belanda misalnya 
> > sungguhlayak ditiru,
>

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[proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog

Sekarang juga saya masih punya sepeda, barusan saya pergi pake sepeda 
belanja ke supermarket Lidle buat beli smoked salmon dan beras Siam yang belum 
naik harganya, masih 1 euro 49 cen sekilo ( di super market lain sudah lebih 
dari dua euro), cashew nuts dan bier Jerman buat mengiringi cap cai.. .

Karena threat posting ini soal jongging, saya kembali ke jogging..

Kalau anda mulai nanti jogging yang penting anda perhatikan itu sepatu 
joggingnya. Saya sendiri pake New Balance, bikinan Inggeris, yang paling mahal 
diantara sepatu jogging yang ada di toko sepatu untuk sport di Leiden - hampir 
150 euro. Juga kaus kaki bagusnya yang khusus untuk jogging biar nggak suka 
lecet..   

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>
> 
> anda sekitar 4-5 tahun yang lalu anda masih punya sepeda, lalu bercerita 
> tentang bersepeda.  sekarang anda udah makin miskin dan sengsara, sepeda aja 
> udah nggak punya lagi, lalu ceritanya jogging.
> 
> 
> kesian...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > How to Jog
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJm4zQJVbrY
> >
>

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[proletar] Re: Jusfiq dan Kontol...(rezamautia, turutkan nasehat saya ini..)

kontol saya menuntut anda minta maaf karena anda telah melakukan fitnah.

apa anda tidak mau maengakui bahwa anda telah melakukan fitnah?



--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nah ikutilah nasehat saya ini: berentilah mengisap ganja, berentilah merokok 
> tembakau seperti sigaret, berentilah mabok-mabokan, minum khamar jangan lebih 
> dari dua atau tiga gelas se hari, maka besar kemungkinan anda tidak akan 
> menderita premature ejaculation lagi.
> 
> Lantas mulai melakukan gerak badan, push-up dan jogging misalnya biar tu otak 
> nggak terus mengkeret terus, bisa-bisa otak anda akan jadi lebih besar dari 
> biji peler monyet ouistiti..
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > sudah 3 hari kontol saya menunggu permintaan maaf dari jusfiq karena anda 
> > sudah melakukan fitnah dengan mengatakan kontol saya mencret.
> > 
> > saya menuntut jusfiq untuk berlutut dan berbicara kepada kontol saya, 
> > meminta maaf atas tuduhan dan fitnah anda terhadap kontol saya secara 
> > khusuk.  kontol saya tidak pernah mencret seperti tuduhan anda.
> >
>






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copas bikin malu ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..


Di negeri Perancis dan Belanda yang mengelola pensiun itu bukan perusahaan, 
tapi lembaga pensiun yang mengumpulkan iuran pensiun dan kemdian 
membagi-baginya..

Saya menerima pensiun dari lembaga pensiun Perancis dan sebuah lembaga pensiun 
di negeri Belanda.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> jadi anda kerjanya diperusahaan mana dan dapet pensiun dari perusahaan mana?
> 
> anda nggak pernah kerja, hidup parasit dan dipiara sama perempuan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi - dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > melihat bahwa posting itu isinya sarat fitnah..
> > 
> > - "Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples"  
> > dikibulkannnya organisasi Islam, pada hal organisasi itu didirikan oleh 
> > orang Yahudi anggota Partai Komunis Perancis (PCF) melawan ketidak adilan 
> > nazi selama perang dunia ke II.
> > 
> > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi HAM 
> > PBB di Jenewa...
> > 
> > - Dan JustJoiningTheTribe itu juga ngibul bilang posting saya "on the 
> > Internet are just about
> > cursing and swearing at Muslims " pada hal yang saya sampaikan adalah 
> > kenyataan tentang agama taik anjing Islam yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh 
> > orang Islam.
> > 
> > Dia juga memfitnah bahwa posting saya cuman "licking the ass of his 
> > christian friends." pada hal saya mengeritik dengan keras kesalahan orang 
> > Nasrani, tapi saya memang menghargai apa yang bagus di ajaran Nasrani dan 
> > apa yang patut dipuji dari sifat kebanyakan orang Nasrani.
> > 
> > Dan tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan saya difitnahnya menerima " financial 
> > support by providing him with
> > meals, accomodation and Internet connection." dari Malène. Dan saya juga 
> > difitnahnya " allegedly financed
> > by Leiden church."
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > >
> > > FITNAH ??
> > > syah-syah aja kalo itu sekedar pembelaan diri...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --On Tue, 3/8/11, utusan.allah  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mÃ¹ailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > > sadar bahwa dialah yang kudu merasa malu karena dia menyediakan dirinya 
> > > jadi penyebar fitnah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan orang Islam...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > gara2 cuma gw posting copas.. trus kalap
> > > 
> > > > percuma marah2 di milis pig
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > harusnya malu...
> > > 
> > > > copas dgn fitnah beda jauh lah..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > copas yg ini pig ?!
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66) ini mengatakan:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil
> > > 
> > > > >activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by
> > > 
> > > > >providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection.
> > > 
> > > > >He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > ---On Tue, 3/8/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > ayub yahya aadalah yang paling goblok diantara gerombolan orang-orang 
> > > > dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta dan bangsat tukang fitnah yang 
> > > > terdiri dari orang Islam dan Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya.. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dia bertanya apakah Hezbollah itu sunni pada hal berita yang 
> > > > dikomentarinya dengan jelas bilang Hezbollah itu militia syiah...
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > > Dan..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > > Dia menolak penghargaan yang jelas-jelas TIDAK diberikan kepadanya
> > > 
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> > > >   
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > 
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[proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog

anda tukang bohong, penipu, sering berhalusinasi.
siapa yang percaya anda punya new balance yang termahal?

in fact, nggak ada orang yang percaya bahwa junkie tua seperti anda jogging di 
salju yang tebalnya 15 cm dan push up 100X.

kalo anda minum alkohol setiap hari, baru dah percaya, abis otaknya udah sedeng 
sih.  buktinya, anda tiap hari dijitakin palanya sama member prol.

tolol kan?

dungu kan?

sarap kan?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
>
> 
> Sekarang juga saya masih punya sepeda, barusan saya pergi pake sepeda 
> belanja ke supermarket Lidle buat beli smoked salmon dan beras Siam yang 
> belum naik harganya, masih 1 euro 49 cen sekilo ( di super market lain sudah 
> lebih dari dua euro), cashew nuts dan bier Jerman buat mengiringi cap cai.. 
> .
> 
> Karena threat posting ini soal jongging, saya kembali ke jogging..
> 
> Kalau anda mulai nanti jogging yang penting anda perhatikan itu sepatu 
> joggingnya. Saya sendiri pake New Balance, bikinan Inggeris, yang paling 
> mahal diantara sepatu jogging yang ada di toko sepatu untuk sport di Leiden - 
> hampir 150 euro. Juga kaus kaki bagusnya yang khusus untuk jogging biar nggak 
> suka lecet..   
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > anda sekitar 4-5 tahun yang lalu anda masih punya sepeda, lalu bercerita 
> > tentang bersepeda.  sekarang anda udah makin miskin dan sengsara, sepeda 
> > aja udah nggak punya lagi, lalu ceritanya jogging.
> > 
> > 
> > kesian...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > How to Jog
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJm4zQJVbrY
> > >
> >
>

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[proletar] Re: Kacang Ini Bikin Gampang Ereksi

Asyik memang..

Tapi, sehubungan dengan jogging, yang asyik betul di negeri Belanda itu 
pengawasan kesehatan (prevensi), termsuk, tentu saja, kesehtan  jogger.

Bayangin, karena senior citizen itu (ini istilah orang Amerika kayaknya) 
diintip resiko diabetes dan tekanan darah tinggi, maka jogger yang mau - dan 
saya mau - diikuti oleh jururawat ahli dan dietis. 

Sekali tiga bulan kadar glucose diperiksa. Sekali enam bulan dapat ABPm (sehari 
penuh tekanan darah dan denyutan jantung diukur dengan pengukur tekanan darah 
dan denyutan jantung), dapat ECG, kencing juga diperiksa.

Dietis mencatat kebiasaan makan, apa yang dimakan dan jam-jam makan.. (Dari 
analisa kencing saya terakhir dietist melihat saya terlalu banyak makanan yang 
mengandung protein: saya memang senang, disamping daging juga ikan yang 
berlemak .). Dan mengusulkan penyesuaian sesuai dengan umur, berat badan dan 
life style.

Ini semua dibayar oleh perusahaan asuransi. (Tapi preminya memang tinggi..)

Nggak heran umur orang di negeri Belanda itu banyak yang panjang-panjang dan 
hidupnya juga nikmat, karena jaminan kesehatan di negeri Belanda bukan saja 
berusaha menyembuhkan penyakit, tapi juga menjaga quality of life.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana"  wrote:
>
> Habis Jogging minum teh hangat dan sambil ngemil kacang pistachio tak lupa 
> sambil nge net asyik ngkali yah, jadi jago pus up dan push down. 
> Huehueheuehuehue
> 
> 
> sur.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "wawan" 
> 
> 
> KOMPAS.com - Apakah Anda salah seorang penggemar kacang pistachio? 
> Beruntunglah bila Anda pria yang rutin mengonsumsi camilan impor berharga 
> cukup mahal ini.
> 
> Menurut sebuah penelitian, kebiasaan mengudap kacang ini ternyata berefek 
> positif bagi kaum Adam dalam mempertahankan kejantanan.
> 
> Seperti yang dipublikasikan dalam edisi terbaru International Journal of 
> Impotence Research: The Journal of Sexual Medicine, kebiasaan mengonsumsi 
> pistachio dapat memperbaiki fungsi seksual pada pria yang memiliki gejala 
> impotensi atau disfungsi ereksi (DE).
> 
> Para peneliti di Turki melibatkan para relawan yang diberikan camilan 100 
> gram  pistachio (sekitar satu cangkir) pada saat makan siang. Konsumsi 
> dilakukan setiap hari selama tiga pekan. Pada akhir penelitian ditemukan, 17 
> relawan mencatat skor 50 persen yang lebih baik pada kuisioner seputar DE 
> dibandingkan skor mereka sebelum konsumsi kacang.
> 
> Para relawan ini juga menunjukkan perbaikan pada fungsi ereksi, kepuasan 
> saat berhubungan intim, fungsi orgasme, dan gairah seksual. Bahkan, aliran 
> darah menuju penis juga menunjukkan peningkatan sekitar 22 persen melalui 
> pengukuran ultrasound.
> 
> "Kacang pistachio mengandung asam amino non-esensial arginine yang relatif 
> tinggi, yang tampaknya dapat mempertahankan fleksibilitas pembuluh arteri 
> dan meningkatkan aliran darah dan memicu nitrat oksida, zat yang melenturkan 
> pembuluh darah," ungkap salah seorang peneliti, Mustafa Aldemir, dari 
> Atatürk Teaching and Research Hospital di Turki.
> 
> Para relawan pria yang terlibat penelitian ini juga dilaporkan menunjukkan 
> perbaikan kadar kolesterol yang signifikan. Hal ini dikarenakan pistachios 
> juga kaya akan asam lemak tak jenuh, serat, dan plant sterol. Riset 
> sebelumnya juga menunjukkan adanya hubungan antara level kolesterol dan 
> impotensi atau DE.
> 
> Meskipun temuan ini dapat menggoda Anda
>

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[proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog


Inilah nasehat saya berikutnya rezamautia: berhentlah pameran isi otak anda 
yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

Perbuatan sia-sia yang betul-betul nggak ada gunanya.

Saya bercerita bahwa saya tetap joggging ketika Leiden ditutupi salju 15 cm, 
tapi cuma tahan sekitar 30 menit, sedangkan saya biasanya jogging antara 
sekitar satu jam (paling kurang) hingga dua jam lebih).

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> anda tukang bohong, penipu, sering berhalusinasi.
> siapa yang percaya anda punya new balance yang termahal?
> 
> in fact, nggak ada orang yang percaya bahwa junkie tua seperti anda jogging 
> di salju yang tebalnya 15 cm dan push up 100X.
> 
> kalo anda minum alkohol setiap hari, baru dah percaya, abis otaknya udah 
> sedeng sih.  buktinya, anda tiap hari dijitakin palanya sama member prol.
> 
> tolol kan?
> 
> dungu kan?
> 
> sarap kan?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Sekarang juga saya masih punya sepeda, barusan saya pergi pake sepeda 
> > belanja ke supermarket Lidle buat beli smoked salmon dan beras Siam yang 
> > belum naik harganya, masih 1 euro 49 cen sekilo ( di super market lain 
> > sudah lebih dari dua euro), cashew nuts dan bier Jerman buat mengiringi cap 
> > cai.. .
> > 
> > Karena threat posting ini soal jongging, saya kembali ke jogging..
> > 
> > Kalau anda mulai nanti jogging yang penting anda perhatikan itu sepatu 
> > joggingnya. Saya sendiri pake New Balance, bikinan Inggeris, yang paling 
> > mahal diantara sepatu jogging yang ada di toko sepatu untuk sport di Leiden 
> > - hampir 150 euro. Juga kaus kaki bagusnya yang khusus untuk jogging biar 
> > nggak suka lecet..   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > anda sekitar 4-5 tahun yang lalu anda masih punya sepeda, lalu bercerita 
> > > tentang bersepeda.  sekarang anda udah makin miskin dan sengsara, sepeda 
> > > aja udah nggak punya lagi, lalu ceritanya jogging.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > kesian...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > How to Jog
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJm4zQJVbrY
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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[proletar] Re: Jusfiq dan Kontol...(rezamautia, turutkan nasehat saya ini..)


Jangan lupa bahwa yang bercerita bahwa anda menderita premature ejaculation, 
artinya kontol mencret, itu anda sendiri dan bukan saya.
 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> kontol saya menuntut anda minta maaf karena anda telah melakukan fitnah.
> 
> apa anda tidak mau maengakui bahwa anda telah melakukan fitnah?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nah ikutilah nasehat saya ini: berentilah mengisap ganja, berentilah 
> > merokok tembakau seperti sigaret, berentilah mabok-mabokan, minum khamar 
> > jangan lebih dari dua atau tiga gelas se hari, maka besar kemungkinan anda 
> > tidak akan menderita premature ejaculation lagi.
> > 
> > Lantas mulai melakukan gerak badan, push-up dan jogging misalnya biar tu 
> > otak nggak terus mengkeret terus, bisa-bisa otak anda akan jadi lebih besar 
> > dari biji peler monyet ouistiti..
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> > >
> > > sudah 3 hari kontol saya menunggu permintaan maaf dari jusfiq karena anda 
> > > sudah melakukan fitnah dengan mengatakan kontol saya mencret.
> > > 
> > > saya menuntut jusfiq untuk berlutut dan berbicara kepada kontol saya, 
> > > meminta maaf atas tuduhan dan fitnah anda terhadap kontol saya secara 
> > > khusuk.  kontol saya tidak pernah mencret seperti tuduhan anda.
> > >
> >
>






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Re: [proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog

2011-03-09 Thread Roman Proteus

Mendingan nasehatnya elo pake buat diri sendiri PIG

Masak orang edan ngasi nasehat

Betul PIG?




-Original Message-
From: "Jusfiq" 
Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:46:29 
To: 
Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [proletar] Re: Youtube: How to Jog


Inilah nasehat saya berikutnya rezamautia: berhentlah pameran isi otak anda 
yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.

Perbuatan sia-sia yang betul-betul nggak ada gunanya.

Saya bercerita bahwa saya tetap joggging ketika Leiden ditutupi salju 15 cm, 
tapi cuma tahan sekitar 30 menit, sedangkan saya biasanya jogging antara 
sekitar satu jam (paling kurang) hingga dua jam lebih).

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> anda tukang bohong, penipu, sering berhalusinasi.
> siapa yang percaya anda punya new balance yang termahal?
> 
> in fact, nggak ada orang yang percaya bahwa junkie tua seperti anda jogging 
> di salju yang tebalnya 15 cm dan push up 100X.
> 
> kalo anda minum alkohol setiap hari, baru dah percaya, abis otaknya udah 
> sedeng sih.  buktinya, anda tiap hari dijitakin palanya sama member prol.
> 
> tolol kan?
> 
> dungu kan?
> 
> sarap kan?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Sekarang juga saya masih punya sepeda, barusan saya pergi pake sepeda 
> > belanja ke supermarket Lidle buat beli smoked salmon dan beras Siam yang 
> > belum naik harganya, masih 1 euro 49 cen sekilo ( di super market lain 
> > sudah lebih dari dua euro), cashew nuts dan bier Jerman buat mengiringi cap 
> > cai.. .
> > 
> > Karena threat posting ini soal jongging, saya kembali ke jogging..
> > 
> > Kalau anda mulai nanti jogging yang penting anda perhatikan itu sepatu 
> > joggingnya. Saya sendiri pake New Balance, bikinan Inggeris, yang paling 
> > mahal diantara sepatu jogging yang ada di toko sepatu untuk sport di Leiden 
> > - hampir 150 euro. Juga kaus kaki bagusnya yang khusus untuk jogging biar 
> > nggak suka lecet..   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > anda sekitar 4-5 tahun yang lalu anda masih punya sepeda, lalu bercerita 
> > > tentang bersepeda.  sekarang anda udah makin miskin dan sengsara, sepeda 
> > > aja udah nggak punya lagi, lalu ceritanya jogging.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > kesian...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > How to Jog
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJm4zQJVbrY
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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[proletar] Re: jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

Anda tidak memperhatikan pelajaran bahasa Inggeris yang saya berikan: tulisan 
yang benar adalah "stoned" bukan "stone".

Dan jangan lupa nasehat saya: berhentilah pamer isi otak anda yang busuk, nista 
lagi menjijikkan, karena  pearbuatan itu sungguh sia-sia dan hanya menunjukkan 
bahwa anda itu bukan orang yang waras.

Satu lagi: karena saya bukan pengisap ganja dan bukan pemakai narkoba (ngisap 
sigaret aja juga sudah puluhan tahun saya hentikan..) maka saya tidak pernah 
stoned.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
> > 
> > Belum tentu, bisa juga cuma: 
> > 
> > 1. kehilangan arah... (nyasar ke kandang bebek) 
> > 2. malfungsi jadi sikat gigi.. 
> > 3. (ada yang mau nambahin?) 
> > 4. ... 
> > 5. ... 
> > 
> 
> 
> bisa juga si jusfiq 'too stone to fuck' sehingga arahnya melesat ke pantat 
> (salah kamar).  beda tipis sih...
> 
> 
> 
> >  
> > > --- Jusfiq  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Asuransi jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di negeri Belanda misalnya 
> > > sungguhlayak ditiru,
> >
>

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copas bikin malu ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..


Sebelum saya lupa satu lagi nasehat saya: hindarkan ikut-ikut melahap fitnah 
yang disebar orang Islam yang kalap seperti yang dilakukan ayub yahya itu: baca 
tulisan saya yang menjelaskan bahwa tulisan yang dilahap oleh ayub yahya itu 
isinya fitnah.

Saya tahu, dan sudah lama tahu, bahwa otak anda sudah rusak berat, dan anda 
jadi rada debil, tapi latihlah diri anda untuk berfikir dengan normal kembali.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> jadi anda kerjanya diperusahaan mana dan dapet pensiun dari perusahaan mana?
> 
> anda nggak pernah kerja, hidup parasit dan dipiara sama perempuan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi - dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > melihat bahwa posting itu isinya sarat fitnah..
> > 
> > - "Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples"  
> > dikibulkannnya organisasi Islam, pada hal organisasi itu didirikan oleh 
> > orang Yahudi anggota Partai Komunis Perancis (PCF) melawan ketidak adilan 
> > nazi selama perang dunia ke II.
> > 
> > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi HAM 
> > PBB di Jenewa...
> > 
> > - Dan JustJoiningTheTribe itu juga ngibul bilang posting saya "on the 
> > Internet are just about
> > cursing and swearing at Muslims " pada hal yang saya sampaikan adalah 
> > kenyataan tentang agama taik anjing Islam yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh 
> > orang Islam.
> > 
> > Dia juga memfitnah bahwa posting saya cuman "licking the ass of his 
> > christian friends." pada hal saya mengeritik dengan keras kesalahan orang 
> > Nasrani, tapi saya memang menghargai apa yang bagus di ajaran Nasrani dan 
> > apa yang patut dipuji dari sifat kebanyakan orang Nasrani.
> > 
> > Dan tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan saya difitnahnya menerima " financial 
> > support by providing him with
> > meals, accomodation and Internet connection." dari Malène. Dan saya juga 
> > difitnahnya " allegedly financed
> > by Leiden church."
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > >
> > > FITNAH ??
> > > syah-syah aja kalo itu sekedar pembelaan diri...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --On Tue, 3/8/11, utusan.allah  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mÃ¹ailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > > sadar bahwa dialah yang kudu merasa malu karena dia menyediakan dirinya 
> > > jadi penyebar fitnah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan orang Islam...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > gara2 cuma gw posting copas.. trus kalap
> > > 
> > > > percuma marah2 di milis pig
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > harusnya malu...
> > > 
> > > > copas dgn fitnah beda jauh lah..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > copas yg ini pig ?!
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66) ini mengatakan:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > >Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil
> > > 
> > > > >activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by
> > > 
> > > > >providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection.
> > > 
> > > > >He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > ---On Tue, 3/8/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > ayub yahya aadalah yang paling goblok diantara gerombolan orang-orang 
> > > > dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta dan bangsat tukang fitnah yang 
> > > > terdiri dari orang Islam dan Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya.. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dia bertanya apakah Hezbollah itu sunni pada hal berita yang 
> > > > dikomentarinya dengan jelas bilang Hezbollah itu militia syiah...
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dan..
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Dia menolak penghargaan yang jelas-jelas TIDAK diberikan kepadanya
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >

[proletar] Perubahan yang dialami rezameutia..


Beberapa tahun yang lalu, rezameutia yang otaknya sudah rusak berat itu menolak 
untuk mengakui kesalahannnya. Dia bilang, seingat saya, kata yang keluar tidak 
bisa ditarik oleh seratus ekor kudapun.

Tapi beberapa hari yang lalu dia sudah bersedia mengakui bahwa dia salah 
menulis kata "stone" yang mestinya "stoned".

Kesediaan mengakui kesalahan itu saya anggap sebagai perubahan sikap rezameutia 
yang signifikan.

Ada harapan bahwa dia akan bisa sembuh dan otaknya bisa berhenti ciut dan bisa 
akan jadi lebih gede dari biji peler monyet ouistiti.






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[proletar] Aljazeera: Libya dispatches emissaries

Africa
Libya dispatches emissaries
Libyan deputy defence minister lands in Cairo and envoys are also sent to NATO 
and EU headquarters in Brussels.
Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 16:10 GMT

Abdelrahman al-Zawi, the Libyan deputy defence minister, has arrived in the 
Egyptian capital, Cairo.

Envoys were also sent to the headquarters of the European Union in Brussels.

A private jet carrying al-Zawi, who is also an army general in charge of 
logistics and supplies, landed in Cairo after three planes belonging to Libyan 
leader Muammar Gaddafi took off from a military airstrip near Tripoli on 
Wednesday morning.

There were reports that al-Zawi was carrying a message from Gaddafi and was to 
meet with Amr Moussa, head of the Arab league.

The state-owned Al-Ahram newspaper said the official was to meet with the 
military council which is ruling Egypt.

Al Jazeera's Ayman Mohyeldin, in Cairo, said the private jet landed on a 
military airstrip around 1pm, carrying al-Zawi and an official.

"As soon as the plane landed, those on board ... were immediately whisked away 
by private cars," he said.

He said Essam Sharaf, the Egyptian prime minister, had cut a cabinet meeting 
short to go to a meeting with the military council.

The Arab league is due to meet on Saturday to discuss the possibility of 
imposing a no-fly zone over Libya. Libyan delegates have been barred from 
attending the League's meetings addressing the situation in the country.

NATO and EU

Meanwhile, Franco Frattini, the Italian foreign minister, said officials were 
heading to Belgium.

"Two aircraft of the Libyan regime appear to have left Libya for Brussels with 
the intention of enabling emissaries of
Gaddafi to meet representatives taking part in the meetings of the EU and NATO 
tomorrow and the next day," Frattini said.

"I don't know what will be said in Cairo, I don't know who will meet whom in 
Brussels but these movements are a fact that we have to take account of," he 
said.

Earlier, a Maltese official said Libyan emissaries had arrived on the 
Mediterranean island on Wednesday for talks with
Maltese officials, and then flown to Portugal.





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[proletar] CNN: Bahrain hard-liners call for royal family to go


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Bahrain hard-liners call for royal family to go

(CNN) -- Three hard-line groups in the Gulf kingdom of Bahrain have united and 
called for the ruling family to step aside, they announced.

The Haq, Wafa and Bahrain Freedom Movement parties have formed a "Coalition for 
a (Bahraini) Republic," the groups said late Tuesday.

"The people want to overthrow the regime," said Hassan Mushaima, secretary 
general of Haq movement, at a news conference. Video of the event was posted on 
YouTube.

He said the coalition was "motivated by the rules of our Islamic religion and 
international charters on human rights to freely decide their faith, and 
expressing our gratitude to the Bahraini community who suffered from the rule 
of the corrupt family of Al-Khalifah."

Anti-government protesters have been camped out in the Pearl Roundabout in the 
capital city, Manama, for nearly a month.

The new coalition is calling for a democratic republic with no ruling family -- 
a step further than other opposition groups, which are calling for a 
constitutional monarchy.

It appeared the hard-line groups represented a minority of the protesters at 
the roundabout, with more moderate protesters in the majority.

The government has promised to build 50,000 new housing units and hire an 
additional 20,000 police officers, roughly doubling the size of the force, amid 
protests.

Members of Bahrain's majority Shiite Muslim community are not allowed to join 
the force. Sunni Muslims -- a majority worldwide, but a minority in the kingdom 
-- dominate the government of Bahrain.

A large number of people protested outside the palace where Bahrain's cabinet 
was meeting Sunday, the first time a protest had been allowed at the site.

Protesters chanted slogans calling for the downfall of Prime Minister Sheikh 
Khalifa Bin Salman Al-Khalifa.

The protest, which lasted about 2 1/2 hours, was peaceful and broke up before 
the Cabinet meeting ended.

Anti-government demonstrators remain at the Pearl Roundabout, where seven 
people died when security tried to clear the area in mid-February.

More than 500 people have been injured in Bahrain since the protest began as 
part of a wave of popular unrest crashing through the Arab world, according to 
human rights activists.

A few dozen of those injured remain in the hospital. Four of them are in 
serious condition, said Nabeel Rajab, president of the Bahrain Center for Human 
Rights.

Protesters initially took to the streets of Manama to demand reform and the 
introduction of a constitutional monarchy.

The royal family has led the Persian Gulf state since the 18th century.

Sunday, Crown Prince Salman bin Hamad Al Khalifa addressed the nation on 
television, saying that a consensus has emerged around 70% to 80% of the 
people's demands, according to a release from the government.

"Everybody wants better services. Everybody wants dignity. Everybody wants to 
be heard," he said.

"Instead of having winners and losers, let's have victory for all, security and 
stability for all, and respect for all."

Bahrain's king reshuffled his cabinet last month as protesters continued to 
call for reforms. He has also touted a "national dialogue" and urged Bahrainis 
"to engage in this new process" and "move away from polarization."

"Today we are drawing the future of a country," the crown prince said. "I can 
assure you that Bahrain will not go back to its former state because the one 
thing that is certain in life is change."

The young Shiite Muslim majority has staged protests in recent years to 
complain about discrimination, unemployment and corruption, issues they say the 
country's Sunni rulers have done little to address.

The Bahrain Center for Human Rights said authorities launched a clampdown on 
dissent in 2010. It accused the government of torturing some human rights 
activists.

CNN's Jenifer Fenton contributed to this report.
 
 
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[proletar] Aljazeera: Copts, Muslims clash in Cairo

Middle East
Copts, Muslims clash in Cairo
At least 11 people killed in sectarian clashes after Coptic protest against the 
torching of a church.
Last Modified: 09 Mar 2011 09:11 GMT

Coptic protesters had gathered in Cairo to demonstrate against the burning of a 
church last week [Reuters]

At least 11 people have been killed and around 100 others injured in religious 
clashes with Muslims in the Egyptian capital Cairo.

A security source told Al Jazeera that of the 11 that were killed on Tuesday, 
six were Coptic, five were Muslim and that at least 25 people were arrested by 
the country's military police for their involvement in the clashes.

The deaths on Tuesday occurred in the working-class district  of Moqattam after 
at least 1,000 Copts gathered to protest the burning of a church last week.

It was the second burst of sectarian fighting in as many days and the latest in 
a string of violent protests over a variety of topics as simmering unrest 
continues nearly a month after mass protests led to the ouster of President 
Hosni Mubarak.

Al Jazeera's Ayman Mohyeldin, reporting from the capital Cairo, said that 
Christians were demanding "an end to what they describe as discrimination by 
the state."

"The military intervened to prevent further clashes, but the episode 
underscores the simmering tension between the two communities," he said.

Fighting broke out mid-afternoon, and people threw rocks from both sides. 
Witnesses said soldiers at the scene fired shots into the air to disperse the 
crowds.

The protest outside Cairo's radio and television building also came a day after 
at least 2,000 Copts demanded the re-building of the torched church, and that 
those responsible be brought to justice.

The Shahedain [Two Martyrs] church, in the Helwan provincial city of Sol, was 
set ablaze on Friday after clashes between Copts and Muslims left at least two 
people dead.

The violence was triggered by a feud between two families, which disapproved of 
a romantic relationship between a Christian man and a Muslim woman in Sol.

There are around 7,000 Christians in Sol, out of a total population of  50,000.

"Problems escalated in the village when a group of Muslims headed to the burned 
out church and conducted a mass prayer there," Maged Ibrahim, a local resident 
told state television.

On Monday, Egypt's ruling military council vowed to have the church rebuilt and 
prosecute those behind the arson attack.

History of animosity

There is a long history of animosity between Copts and Muslims in Egypt, though 
there have been recent signs of a rapprochement following a deadly New Year's 
Day bombing of a church in Alexandria and during the recent popular uprising 
that unseated long-time president Mubarak.

Twenty-one people died and dozens more were wounded when what was believed to 
be a suicide bomber blew himself up just after midnight on New Year's as 
worshippers left a church in the port city of Alexandria.

No one has yet claimed responsibility for the attack, which came after an 
al-Qaeda-linked group said it was behind a deadly church hostage-taking in the 
Iraqi capital of Baghdad,and threatened Coptic Christians as well.

But as Copts celebrated their Christmas on January 7, thousands of Muslims 
gathered at churches across the country, forming human shields to protect them 
as they worshipped.

And during anti-Mubarak protests in Cairo in January, there were also cases of 
Copts doing the same for Muslims as they prayed in Tahrir Square.

Christians, who make up about 10 per cent of Egypt's 80 million population, 
complain of systematic discrimination and have been the target of several  
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copas bikin malu ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..


Sebelum saya lupa satu lagi nasehat saya: hindarkan ikut-ikut melahap fitnah 
yang disebar orang Islam yang kalap seperti yang dilakukan ayub yahya itu: baca 
tulisan saya yang menjelaskan bahwa tulisan yang dilahap oleh ayub yahya itu 
isinya fitnah.

Saya tahu, dan sudah lama tahu, bahwa otak anda sudah rusak berat, dan anda 
jadi rada debil, tapi latihlah diri anda untuk berfikir dengan normal kembali.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
>
> jadi anda kerjanya diperusahaan mana dan dapet pensiun dari perusahaan mana?
> 
> anda nggak pernah kerja, hidup parasit dan dipiara sama perempuan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi - dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > melihat bahwa posting itu isinya sarat fitnah..
> > 
> > - "Movement against Racism and for Friendship among Peoples"  
> > dikibulkannnya organisasi Islam, pada hal organisasi itu didirikan oleh 
> > orang Yahudi anggota Partai Komunis Perancis (PCF) melawan ketidak adilan 
> > nazi selama perang dunia ke II.
> > 
> > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi HAM 
> > PBB di Jenewa...
> > 
> > - Dan JustJoiningTheTribe itu juga ngibul bilang posting saya "on the 
> > Internet are just about
> > cursing and swearing at Muslims " pada hal yang saya sampaikan adalah 
> > kenyataan tentang agama taik anjing Islam yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh 
> > orang Islam.
> > 
> > Dia juga memfitnah bahwa posting saya cuman "licking the ass of his 
> > christian friends." pada hal saya mengeritik dengan keras kesalahan orang 
> > Nasrani, tapi saya memang menghargai apa yang bagus di ajaran Nasrani dan 
> > apa yang patut dipuji dari sifat kebanyakan orang Nasrani.
> > 
> > Dan tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan saya difitnahnya menerima " financial 
> > support by providing him with
> > meals, accomodation and Internet connection." dari Malène. Dan saya juga 
> > difitnahnya " allegedly financed
> > by Leiden church."
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > >
> > > FITNAH ??
> > > syah-syah aja kalo itu sekedar pembelaan diri...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --On Tue, 3/8/11, utusan.allah  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Karena ayub yahya itu dungu kayak babi dan yang paling dungu diantara 
> > > anggota gerombolan manusia berotak busuk di mÃ¹ailing list ini, dia tidak 
> > > sadar bahwa dialah yang kudu merasa malu karena dia menyediakan dirinya 
> > > jadi penyebar fitnah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan orang Islam...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/188493
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > gara2 cuma gw posting copas.. trus kalap
> > > 
> > > > percuma marah2 di milis pig
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > > harusnya malu...
> > > 
> > > > copas dgn fitnah beda jauh lah..
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> > > > copas yg ini pig ?!
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> > > 
> > > > >MARLENE VAN DOORN'S jusfiq hadjar (66) ini mengatakan:
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> > > > >Marlene Van Doorn is very supportive of his life partner's evil
> > > 
> > > > >activities on the Internet, and gives her financial support by
> > > 
> > > > >providing him with meals, accomodation and Internet connection.
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> > > > >He is also allegedly financed by Leiden church.
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> > > > ayub yahya aadalah yang paling goblok diantara gerombolan orang-orang 
> > > > dungu kayak babi dan bajingan pendusta dan bangsat tukang fitnah yang 
> > > > terdiri dari orang Islam dan Hasan Basri dan ayub yahya.. 
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> > > > Dia bertanya apakah Hezbollah itu sunni pada hal berita yang 
> > > > dikomentarinya dengan jelas bilang Hezbollah itu militia syiah...
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[proletar] Bagi yang ingin mendukung resolusi DK PBB tentang no-fly zone di Libya..


Bagi yang ingin mendukung resolusi DK PBB tentang no-fly zone di Libya..

http://www.avaaz.org/en/libya_no_fly_zone_1/?vl







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[proletar] Kutukan Energi

Refleksi : Kalau pemerintahan negara  dikuasai oleh kaum tukang copet bin 
garong maka mereka akan seperti kacang lupa kulitnya, jadi pada tempatnya  
makin banyak problem yang tak selesaikan, karena makin berbelit-berlit 
masalahnya  makin banyak pula duit masuk kantong yang berwenang. Situasi ini 
sengaja dipertahankan agar yang berpendapatan banyak menjadi tetap ungul.

http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2011/03/10/208962/70/13/Kutukan-Energi

Editorial


Kutukan Energi 
Kamis, 10 Maret 2011 00:01 WIB  
Bicara energi di Indonesia adalah bicara tentang kebodohan. Bodoh karena dari 
waktu ke waktu terjebak dalam kesalahan yang itu-itu lagi. Sehingga sumber 
energi yang kaya dan beragam, berubah menjadi kutukan. 

Kutukan pertama dan utama adalah jebakan subsidi bahan bakar minyak. Subsidi 
memang menjadi kewajiban pelayanan negara terhadap publiknya. Tetapi dalam soal 
minyak, Indonesia melanggar sangat serius prinsip subsidi itu sendiri. Yaitu, 
negara hanya menyubsidi produk yang berkelimpahan di dalam negeri. 

Apakah Indonesia berkelimpahan minyak bumi? Jawabnya, tidak. Kutukan kedua, 
adalah subsidi yang salah arah sehingga terjadi pemborosan luar biasa. 
Menyubsidi langsung pengguna kendaraan bermotor adalah kekeliruan fatal. 

Seyogianya subsidi BBM diberikan kepada PLN agar pada gilirannya rakyat dan 
industri memperoleh listrik murah. Atau subsidi kepada pengelola angkutan 
publik seperti kereta api dan bus umum sehingga menekan ongkos transportasi 
khalayak serta mendongkrak daya saing industri. 

Kutukan ketiga, macetnya migrasi energi fosil ke energi nonfosil. Bappenas dan 
Dana Moneter Internasional telah mengeluarkan peringatan bahwa minyak bumi 
Indonesia akan kering sama sekali dalam tempo yang tidak terlalu lama lagi. 

Bappenas menyebut 14 tahun dari sekarang, sementara IMF menunjuk tahun 2020, 
sembilan tahun lagi. Tetapi energi alternatif sampai hari ini tidak terlihat 
menjadi pilihan prioritas. 

APBN 2011 menetapkan harga patokan minyak US$80/barel. Dengan patokan harga itu 
defisit ditetapkan pada angka Rp120 triliun. Setiap kenaikan harga US$1 per 
barel akan menambah beban anggaran sekitar Rp0,8 triliun. 

Sekarang ini harga minyak dunia sudah mendekati US$120/barel--kenaikan mencapai 
US$40/barel. Berarti defisit anggaran bisa membengkak sekitar Rp32 triliun. 
Bila politik subsidi BBM tetap dipertahankan seperti sekarang di tengah 
fluktuasi liar harga minyak dunia, APBN bisa jebol. 

Supaya keluar dari kutukan energi, tidak ada pilihan lain kecuali melakukan 
revisi total dan berani terhadap politik energi nasional. Selama ini kita 
terjebak dalam politik energi yang tidak berpihak kepada pasar dalam negeri 
sehingga Indonesia seperti tikus yang mati di lumbung padi. 

Batu bara berlimpah, gas berlimpah, tapi semuanya diabdikan bagi pasar global. 
Pasar dalam negeri merana. 

Keberpihakan politik energi bagi kepentingan dalam negeri juga harus 
diperlihatkan dalam hal kepemilikan sumber energi itu. Dari 900 ribu barel per 
hari minyak yang dikuras dari perut bumi Indonesia, yang dikuasai negara 
(Pertamina) kurang dari 20%. Karena itu, bila masa kontrak 
kontraktor-kontraktor minyak itu selesai, harus berani tidak diperpanjang dan 
diserahkan kepada Pertamina. 

Kebijakan seperti ini juga harus diterapkan dengan berani dan konsisten untuk 
semua jenis tambang yang dikelola pihak asing. Tanpa keberanian itu kita akan 
menjadi hamba pada pasar global. Ini hanya bisa dijalankan oleh sebuah politik 
nasional yang benar-benar mengabdi pada kepentingan umum. Bukan politik dusta.


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[proletar] Merekonstruksi Trias Politika yang Korup

http://www.mediaindonesia.com/read/2011/03/10/208908/68/11/Merekonstruksi-Trias-Politika-yang-Korup

Merekonstruksi Trias Politika yang Korup 


Kamis, 10 Maret 2011 00:01 WIB 
Korupsi di negeri ini nyaris sudah 'menyatu' dengan sistem kekuasaan, meskipun 
tentunya harus tetap diyakini bahwa masih ada peluang untuk membersihkan benalu 
korupsi dari roda birokrasi kekuasaan negara asal ada kemauan, komitmen, dan 
kejujuran dari semua pihak, khususnya para elite di lingkungan legislatif, 
eksekutif, dan yudikatif. 

Korupsi di negeri ini dalam cara pandang filsafat fondasionalisme dilihat 
sebagai dampak dari penyalahgunaan kekuasaan (abuse of power) di lingkungan 
kekuasaan negara. Kekuasaan yang absolut ditambah lemahnya sistem pengawasan 
dan ketertutupan mekanisme penyelenggaraan kekuasaan telah membuka peluang 
terjadinya korupsi (absolute power tends to corrupt). Musuh terbesar dari upaya 
perwujudan kepemerintahan yang bersih (clean governance) adalah nihilisme atau 
absennya sistem pengawasan. Kekuasaan yang tertutup dan jauh dari kontrol 
publik membawa pada hasrat subjek yang berkuasa untuk mendominasi dan 
memanipulasi. Dalam kondisi tersebut, Pierre Bourdieu mengajak untuk membongkar 
selubung dominasi menggunakan strategi praktis dengan cara mengobjektivasi 
subjek. Artinya, peluang untuk melakukan tindakan-tindakan koruptif harus 
dieliminasi dengan menerapkan sistem pengawasan efektif pada setiap lini 
penggunaan wewenang (authority) pada pusat-pusat kekuasaan dan memperkokoh 
sistem saling mengawasi (checks and balances) antarporos-poros kekuasaan 
negara. 

Belitan korupsi di lingkungan birokrasi kekuasaan eksekutif dapat diurai dengan 
menelusuri kembali rentang kendali (span of control) organisasi kekuasaan 
eksekutif (pusat/daerah), sambil mengefektifkan berbagai jalur pengawasan 
melalui kebijakan pengawasan terpadu yang puncaknya secara langsung 
dikendalikan presiden/wapres. Hal itu sangat penting mengingat gurita korupsi 
yang melilit birokrasi eksekutif sangat luas cakupannya. Korupsi di negeri ini 
kini menjadi rimba permasalahan yang kian tak jelas batas-batasnya dan cara 
menyelesaikannya. Sebuah kejahatan struktural yang di dalamnya berkelindan 
permainan posisi/kekuasaan, ambisi, amoralitas, penyalahgunaan wewenang (abuse 
of power) dan berakar pada apa yang oleh Nietzsche disebut kehendak berkuasa 
(the will of power). Nietzsche semasa hidupnya mengatakan bahwa hakikat dunia 
ini tak lain adalah kekuatan. Hidup adalah kumpulan kekuatan-kekuatan yang 
berada di bawah satu penguasaan. 

Reduksi dalam pengungkapan jaringan mafia pajak dalam proses penegakan hukum 
berkelindan dengan transaksi kepentingan politik yang kian membawa hukum di 
negeri ini memasuki dunia kamuflase semiotik. Hukum telah menjadi sebuah 
fatamorgana (mirage), yaitu sebuah ontologi citraan dan semiotika yang dibangun 
di atas sebuah tanda dusta (false sign) atau kebohongan. Hukum telah menjadi 
penanda yang hampa (empty signifier) di saat konstitusi pun tak lagi sahih 
mengatur perilaku lembaga-lembaga negara dan aparat penegak hukum diperkuda 
hasrat epithumia, yaitu naluri irasional/instingtif sehingga bertekuk lutut di 
hadapan uang. Citra kamuflase (camouflage image) telah menjadikan hukum sekadar 
bersifat transaksional dan instrumental di bawah kendali aktor-aktor 
kepentingan politik dan ekonomi. Hukum dalam kamuflase semiotik hanya 
berganti-ganti permukaan tanda atau kulit luar (form), tetapi substansi di 
baliknya (content) tetap tak berubah. 

Pengungkapan seluruh jaringan mafia pajak dengan kasus Gayus sebagai puncak 
gunung esnya dalam pandangan Ricoeur akan menarik garis hubungan sirkuler 
mutual (mutual-circular) antara fiksi bahwa pajak di negeri diwartakan sebagai 
instrumen kebijakan untuk melakukan redistribusi kesejahteraan (welfare 
redistribution/fungsi mengatur) dan realitas bahwa negeri ini kian salah urus 
dalam mengelola pajak dan kekayaan negara yang menjadikannya hanya 
menguntungkan oknum yang korup yang bersembunyi di balik birokrasi negara. 

Pemilu kada yang seharusnya menjadi forum kedaulatan rakyat kini tak ubahnya 
sebuah arena kontestasi kekuatan yang distimulasi kehendak berkuasa dan di 
dalamnya tak jarang menghadirkan amoralitas permainan kekuasaan politik. 
Kalaulah demokrasi menjadi pembungkus dari pemilu kada, struktur perpolitikan 
yang tak terbiasa untuk melihat yang lain (baca: lawan politik) dari kedekatan 
dan dengan hati (passion), menjadikan pemilu kada sebuah pertarungan harga diri 
kelompok yang berkelindan dengan ambisi serta hasrat berkuasa. Padahal dalam 
pandangan Martin Heidegger bagaimana individu-individu menjadikan dirinya 
subjek yang mencintai kebebasan atau keberkuasaan dan mengakui hadirnya yang 
lain dengan penuh hormat dan kesanggrahan (hospitality) atau mengada di dunia 
dengan perhatian (care) menentukan kebusukan atau keharuman sebuah masyarakat. 

Di lingkungan kekuasaan legislatif, benang kusut korupsi perlu diurai dengan 
membongkar

Dirinya sendiri difitnah ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..

penasaran, gw search di google... akhirnya ketemu
List members "Conseil National".. tapi nama lo kagak ada pig !!

hehehe.. jangan fitnah diri sendiri dong

nama lo ada, tapi cuma postingan lo dari milis 'islam-kristen'
elo ngaku2 anggota conseil-national juga... payah !!
masa anjing gonggongin dirinya sendiri...

kagak terbukti nama lo ada di list-member conseil-national..

pengin liat.. juspig nyalahin google

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

> > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi HAM 
> > PBB di Jenewa...

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Dirinya sendiri difitnah ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..

Dungu.

Goblok.

Tolol.

Bodoh.

Otak busuk.

Saya bilang: "Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama 
beberapa tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi 
HAM PBB di Jenewa... " 

Saya nggak bilang saya masih anggota Conseil National MRAP. 

Sudah tahunan saya nggak aktif lagi di organisai itu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
>
> penasaran, gw search di google... akhirnya ketemu
> List members "Conseil National".. tapi nama lo kagak ada pig !!
> 
> hehehe.. jangan fitnah diri sendiri dong
> 
> nama lo ada, tapi cuma postingan lo dari milis 'islam-kristen'
> elo ngaku2 anggota conseil-national juga... payah !!
> masa anjing gonggongin dirinya sendiri...
> 
> kagak terbukti nama lo ada di list-member conseil-national..
> 
> pengin liat.. juspig nyalahin google
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
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> > > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi 
> > > HAM PBB di Jenewa...
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meratap.. [proletar] Re: jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

lama2 gak tega juga..  

udah aki2 ampe meratap-ratap ginih
kesian yach..

toeslag.. toeslag.. 

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

Anda tidak memperhatikan pelajaran bahasa Inggeris yang saya berikan: tulisan 
yang benar adalah "stoned" bukan "stone".

Dan jangan lupa nasehat saya: berhentilah pamer isi otak anda yang busuk, nista 
lagi menjijikkan, karena  pearbuatan itu sungguh sia-sia dan hanya menunjukkan 
bahwa anda itu bukan orang yang waras.

Satu lagi: karena saya bukan pengisap ganja dan bukan pemakai narkoba (ngisap 
sigaret aja juga sudah puluhan tahun saya hentikan..) maka saya tidak pernah 
stoned.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:

>

> 

> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:

> > 

> > Belum tentu, bisa juga cuma: 

> > 

> > 1. kehilangan arah... (nyasar ke kandang bebek) 

> > 2. malfungsi jadi sikat gigi.. 

> > 3. (ada yang mau nambahin?) 

> > 4. ... 

> > 5. ... 

> > 

> 

> 

> bisa juga si jusfiq 'too stone to fuck' sehingga arahnya melesat ke pantat 
> (salah kamar).  beda tipis sih...

> 

> 

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> >  

> > > --- Jusfiq  wrote:

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> > > Asuransi jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di negeri Belanda misalnya 

> > > sungguhlayak ditiru,

> >

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Re: Dirinya sendiri difitnah ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..

WAKAKAKAKA... dirinya sendiri difitnah
tapi di koreksi sendiri...

apa gw bilang.. "Ada anjing gonggongin dirinya sendiri"
kiplik.. kiplik... ehehehehe

makin o'on lo pig ..!!

--- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

Saya bilang: "Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama 
beberapa tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi 
HAM PBB di Jenewa... " 

Saya nggak bilang saya masih anggota Conseil National MRAP. 

Sudah tahunan saya nggak aktif lagi di organisai itu.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:

>

> penasaran, gw search di google... akhirnya ketemu

> List members "Conseil National".. tapi nama lo kagak ada pig !!

> 

> hehehe.. jangan fitnah diri sendiri dong

> 

> nama lo ada, tapi cuma postingan lo dari milis 'islam-kristen'

> elo ngaku2 anggota conseil-national juga... payah !!

> masa anjing gonggongin dirinya sendiri...

> 

> kagak terbukti nama lo ada di list-member conseil-national..

> 

> pengin liat.. juspig nyalahin google

> 

> 

> 

> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:

> Â 

> 

> > > Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu selama beberapa 
> > > tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan Sub Komisi 
> > > HAM PBB di Jenewa...

> Â 

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meratap.. [proletar] Re: jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??


Betul-betul gawat sudh keadaan ayub yahya ini: zaya memberi nasehat kepada 
rezameutia dibilang meratap-ratap.
  


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> lama2 gak tega juga..Â  
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> udah aki2 ampe meratap-ratap ginih
> kesian yach..
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> toeslag.. toeslag.. 
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> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
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> Anda tidak memperhatikan pelajaran bahasa Inggeris yang saya berikan: tulisan 
> yang benar adalah "stoned" bukan "stone".
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> Dan jangan lupa nasehat saya: berhentilah pamer isi otak anda yang busuk, 
> nista lagi menjijikkan, karena  pearbuatan itu sungguh sia-sia dan hanya 
> menunjukkan bahwa anda itu bukan orang yang waras.
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> Satu lagi: karena saya bukan pengisap ganja dan bukan pemakai narkoba (ngisap 
> sigaret aja juga sudah puluhan tahun saya hentikan..) maka saya tidak pernah 
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> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia"  wrote:
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Re: [proletar] Tak Mampu

2011-03-09 Thread ajeg

Nanti dulu. Belum ada bukti dia takut punya anak. 
Jejeritan histeris "TIDAK tidak punya anak" begitu 
kan lebih bernuansa 'tidak mampu' ketimbang 
tidak mau. 

Jadi, sejauh ini belum ada bukti dia takut 
punya anak. 

--- "Tawangalun"  wrote:

> Tapi ada asuransipun toh ada yg takut punya anak ,was was kalau gak 
> bisa mangan.Jadi kasihan kalau mati nanti gak ada yg nangisi malah 
> banyak wong Proletar yg seneng seneng.
> 
> Shalom,
> Tawangalun.
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> --- "Jusfiq"  wrote:
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> > Dan Dipo yang memang gila itu bilang tidak ada yang bisa ditiru 
> > dari negeri Belanda..
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> > Asuransi jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di negeri Belanda misalnya 
> > sungguhlayak ditiru, hingga hal-yang menyedihkan seperti dibawah 
> > ini tidak perlu terjadi lagi di Indonesia.
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> > --- "sunny"  wrote:
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> > > Refl: Beginilah keadaan pelayanan kesehatan kerajaan 
> > > neo-Mojopahit terhadap warganegaranya. Masihkah anda ragu-ragu 
> > > untuk tidak mempertahankan harga matinya?
> > > 
> > > http://metro-daerah.blogspot.com/2011/03/tak-mampu-bayar-persalinan-ibu-dan-bayi.html
> > > 
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Dirinya sendiri difitnah ..Re: [proletar] yang paling goblok itu ayub yahya..


Wah betul-betul payah sudah keadaan ayub yahya ini: saya kasih keterangan dan 
penjelasan dibilang "dirinya sendiri difitnah  tapi di koreksi sendiri..."

Betul-betul sudah gawat keadaan orang ini.


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> WAKAKAKAKA... dirinya sendiri difitnah
> tapi di koreksi sendiri...
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> apa gw bilang.. "Ada anjing gonggongin dirinya sendiri"
> kiplik.. kiplik... ehehehehe
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> makin o'on lo pig ..!!
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> --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Jusfiq  wrote:
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> Saya bilang: "Dan saya adalah anggota "Conseil National" organisasi itu 
> selama beberapa tahun dan menjadi wakil organisasi itu ke Sidang Komisi dan 
> Sub Komisi HAM PBB di Jenewa... " 
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> Saya nggak bilang saya masih anggota Conseil National MRAP. 
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> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ayub yahya  wrote:
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> > penasaran, gw search di google... akhirnya ketemu
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> > List members "Conseil National".. tapi nama lo kagak ada pig !!
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> > hehehe.. jangan fitnah diri sendiri dong
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> > nama lo ada, tapi cuma postingan lo dari milis 'islam-kristen'
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> > pengin liat.. juspig nyalahin google
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Re: [proletar] jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

2011-03-09 Thread ajeg

--- "rezameutia"  wrote:

> ---  wrote:
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> > Belum tentu, bisa juga cuma: 
> > 
> > 1. kehilangan arah... (nyasar ke kandang bebek) 
> > 2. malfungsi jadi sikat gigi.. 
> > 3. (ada yang mau nambahin?) 
> > 4. ... 
> > 5. ... 
> > 
> 
> bisa juga si jusfiq 'too stone to fuck' sehingga arahnya melesat ke 
> pantat (salah kamar).  beda tipis sih...

Tapi dia ngakunya nggak mabok tuh? 
Selalu sadar sepenuhnya. 

Berarti dia emang super tolol donk, 
urusan ginian OOT juga.. 

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[proletar] Re: Tak Mampu (Dipo juga bikin kemajuan kecil..)

Kemajuan.

Kemajuan kecil, tapi kemajuan.

Kali ini Dipo betul, kami tidak takut punya anak..

Tapi tidak punya anak, adalah pilihan kami, pilihan yang juga diambil oleh 
banyak pasangan di negeri maju.

Di banyak negeri makmur seperti negeri Beladna, bagusnya ada kemungkinan untuk 
memlih tidak punya anak. 

Tidak ada tekanan sosial untuk punya anak dan ada kesadaran bahwa bumi ini 
telah terlalu pênuh. 

Bagus dah, Dipo juga sudah bikin kemajuan kecil.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
>
> 
> Nanti dulu. Belum ada bukti dia takut punya anak. 
> Jejeritan histeris "TIDAK tidak punya anak" begitu 
> kan lebih bernuansa 'tidak mampu' ketimbang 
> tidak mau. 
> 
> Jadi, sejauh ini belum ada bukti dia takut 
> punya anak. 
> 
> --- "Tawangalun"  wrote:
> 
> > Tapi ada asuransipun toh ada yg takut punya anak ,was was kalau gak 
> > bisa mangan.Jadi kasihan kalau mati nanti gak ada yg nangisi malah 
> > banyak wong Proletar yg seneng seneng.
> > 
> > Shalom,
> > Tawangalun.
> > 
> > --- "Jusfiq"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Dan Dipo yang memang gila itu bilang tidak ada yang bisa ditiru 
> > > dari negeri Belanda..
> > > 
> > > Asuransi jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di negeri Belanda misalnya 
> > > sungguhlayak ditiru, hingga hal-yang menyedihkan seperti dibawah 
> > > ini tidak perlu terjadi lagi di Indonesia.
> > > 
> > > --- "sunny"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Refl: Beginilah keadaan pelayanan kesehatan kerajaan 
> > > > neo-Mojopahit terhadap warganegaranya. Masihkah anda ragu-ragu 
> > > > untuk tidak mempertahankan harga matinya?
> > > > 
> > > > http://metro-daerah.blogspot.com/2011/03/tak-mampu-bayar-persalinan-ibu-dan-bayi.html
> > > > 
> > > 
> >
>

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[proletar] Re: jusfiq pentang bacot soal Persalinan, Ibu dan Bayi..??

Betul, saya nggak mabok ketika saya ngisap ganja itu.

Saya juga ngisapnya nggak banyak, karena nggak berasa ada enaknya.

Makanya saya juga nggak mau ngisap ganja lagi.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ajeg"  wrote:
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> 
> --- "rezameutia"  wrote:
>  
> > ---  wrote:
> > 
> > > Belum tentu, bisa juga cuma: 
> > > 
> > > 1. kehilangan arah... (nyasar ke kandang bebek) 
> > > 2. malfungsi jadi sikat gigi.. 
> > > 3. (ada yang mau nambahin?) 
> > > 4. ... 
> > > 5. ... 
> > > 
> > 
> > bisa juga si jusfiq 'too stone to fuck' sehingga arahnya melesat ke 
> > pantat (salah kamar).  beda tipis sih...
> 
> 
> Tapi dia ngakunya nggak mabok tuh? 
> Selalu sadar sepenuhnya. 
> 
> Berarti dia emang super tolol donk, 
> urusan ginian OOT juga..
>

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[proletar] Nasehat buat Dipo..