[proletar] BALAS DENDAM jilid 1: 69 tewas di Pakistan
Teriak Allahu Akbar lalu jlegurrr 69 orang TIDAK BERDOSA MATI. Penganut agama tidak bermoral beraksi. Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 69 Dead in Pakistan Published May 13, 2011 May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. AP May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. Twin explosions struck a paramilitary training center in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing at least 69 people, in what the Pakistani Taliban described as its first revenge for the killing of Usama bin Laden. The group threatened bigger attacks to come, in a statement shortly after the explosions. The blasts targeted newly trained recruits about to be bussed home on leave in Pakistan's Charsadda district, near the Afghan border. A suicide bomber detonated at least one of the blasts at the main gate of the facility for the Frontier Constabulary, a poorly equipped but front-line force in Pakistan's battle against Al Qaeda and allied Islamist groups close to the Afghan border. Like other branches of Pakistan security forces, it has received U.S. funding. More than 100 people were wounded, and nearly all the victims were recruits. This was the first revenge for Usama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location. The scene of the blast was littered with shards of glass mixed with blood and human flesh. The explosions destroyed at least 10 vans the recruits were boarding to go home for a short break at the end of a recent training session. Dr. Abdul Hameed Afridi of Lady Rieding Hospital in Peshawar said 117 people have been treated at the hospital, including 40 with critical wounds. About 3 to 4 pounds of explosives were used in one explosion, said police officer Jahanzeb Khan. Ball bearings and nails were used in another, heightening the death toll, he said. A vegetable vendor at the site said some recruits were seated in white minivans and others were loading luggage atop the vehicles. There was a big blast, he said. I saw smoke, blood and body pieces all around. The attack was a savage reminder of the toll militant groups are taking on Pakistan even as it faces international suspicion that elements within its security forces may have been harboring bin Laden, who was killed in a raid about three hours' drive from Peshawar. Police official Nisar Khan said a suicide bomber, a man in his late teens or early 20s, set off one blast. The cause of the other explosion was not yet known, he said. The first blast occurred in the middle of the road, and after that there was a huge blast that was more powerful than the first, said Abdul Wahid, a 25-year-old recruit whose legs were wounded in the blasts. He said he was knocked to the ground by the force of the explosions. After falling, I just started crawling and dragging myself to a safer place ... along the wall of a roadside shop, he said. Ahmad Ali, a wounded paramilitary policeman, recalled the horror when the explosions turned a festive Friday morning into a bloodbath. I was sitting in a van waiting for my colleagues. We were in plain clothes and we were happy we were going to see our families, he told AFP by telephone from Shabqadar hospital. I heard someone shouting 'Allah Akbar' and then I heard a huge blast. I was hit by something in my back shoulder. In the meantime I heard another blast and I jumped out of the van. I felt that I was injured and bleeding. The Pakistani Taliban last week threatened to attack security forces to avenge bin Laden's killing. The Sept. 11 mastermind and at least four others were killed by U.S. Navy SEALs who raided bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a garrison city. Bin Laden is believed to have lived in the large house for up to six years. Pakistani officials have denied knowing he was there but have criticized the American raid ordered by President Obama as a violation of their country's sovereignty. Pakistani leaders have also repeatedly pointed out that tens of thousands of their own citizens have died in suicide and other attacks since Sept. 11, 2001, when Islamabad became an ally of the U.S. in taking on Islamist extremists. Many of the attacks in Pakistan have targeted security forces, including young cadets or recruits. The Associated Press and NewsCore contributed to this report. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/12/police-68-killed-bombings-nw-pakistan/#ixzz1MD7aN7I0 Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your
[proletar] Re: STUDI ALIEN DAN AGAMA
Baik. Kuliahmu menjadi studi kasus yang baik. Lanjutkan!! Aku juga berjanji akan mengkaji ini lebih dalam. Dalam agama non Islam juga banyak pengaruh alien2 ini. pemdun --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@... wrote: Kok jauh amat? Ada yg nyembah cor-coran, semen atau logam, ada kayu dipaku kiri-kanan, atau patung lalu manusia jongkok hormat didepannya. Sekarang ini lho dan kamu bisa lihat saja sendiri. Ada juga yg nyembah api, juga yg sangat memuliakan daya fikirnya atau posisi maupun harta duniawi. Atau mengigau memuja arwah nenek moyang atau setan gentayangan. Vatikan saja pernah kok punya tempat khusus muja satan, meski yg namanya pedofil atau homo dan diwariskan kepada para rohaniwannya. Kalik orang tuamu maupun kamu sendiri termasuk pemuja dari antara yg nDeboost paparkan diatas. Coba kamu bayangkan, ada yg mampu melihat langit terbuka atau 1/3 jumlah bintang diseret ekor naga ke bumi. Atau ada sosok ga bersilsilah, ga ada awal atau akhir. Lalu peperangan antara malaikat jahat vs malaikat baik di surga. Atau ada sosok (mayat) naik ke surga. Mengapa kamu mengecualikan yg itu? Kalau Al Qur'an menyampaikan ada makhluk diantara langit dan bumi namun ga disebut dimana ga ada hubungannya dg kepercayaan Arab kuno. Orang Arab jahiliah dulu entah apa-apa yg mereka sembah, wallahua'lam. Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia 'Mangnya ada berapa Kaba? Kamu mengigau atau mitenah? Melek dong. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. Jadi utk apa ngajak studi yg demikian gak netralnya? Kamu tujukan saja kepada gereja biar ga dipermalukan. Ga lagi mengulangi kezaliman yg ditimpakan misalnya kpd Galileo. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Mengingat bahwa agama itu asalnya adalah supranatural: malaikat, Allah, dewa, hantu, penampakan, langit yang artinya kemungkinan besar adalah ALIEN dari ANGKASA LUAR, maka aku mengajak kalian semua yg obyektif dan rasional untuk menguji semua agama berdasarkan hipotesis ini, sekaligus mengenali alien dengan berbagai varian dan tujuan mereka. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. ALIEN GODS -ISLAM BAHAYA LATENT Bulan itu ada penduduknya. Banyak orang bersaksi pernah melihatnya. Mungkinkah simbol Bulan Bintang itu berkaitan dengan fakta bahwa Alloh itu adalah ALIEN?? ALIEN KATA ORANG PUNYA MARKAS DI BULAN. Banyak sekali kalau dicari di google Alien Moon http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html Alien moon,Why NASA Never Returned To The Moon,1of3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjn10Of2hPs http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6507661008750185648# masih sangat banyak lagi di youtube dan di web DEWI BULANnya orang Arab , AL-ILAH Lalu orang Arab pra-Islam menyembah bulan dan tuhannya yang bernama al-Ilah (Al-Lat yang disebut di Qur'an?). Moon worship, agama Arab jahiliyah dewanya bernama al-ilah http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm Translated dari English # ibadah Dewi Bulan telah dipraktikkan di Saudi sejak tahun 2000 SM. Bulan sabit adalah simbol paling umum dari ibadah pagan bulan sejauh 2000 SM. # Di Mekah, ada dewa bernama Hubal yang Tuhannya Kabah. # Hubal adalah dewa bulan. # Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia: Sekitar empat ratus tahun sebelum kelahiran Muhammad bin Amr satu Lahyo ... keturunan dari Qahtan dan raja Hijaz, telah menempatkan berhala bernama Hubal di atap Ka'bah. Ini adalah salah satu dewa utama dari Quraisy sebelum Islam. (Muhammad Nabi saw, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim) # Dewa Bulan juga disebut sebagai al-ilah. Ini bukan nama yang tepat dari suatu dewa tunggal tertentu, tetapi referensi generik berarti dewa. Setiap kafir lokal suku Arab akan lihat sendiri kafir suku lokal mereka tuhan sebagai al-ilah. # Al-ilah kemudian disingkat menjadi Allah sebelum Muhammad mulai mempromosikan agama barunya di 610 AD. # Ada bukti bahwa Hubal disebut sebagai Allah. # Ketika Muhammad datang, dia menjatuhkan semua referensi nama Hubal tapi mempertahankan Allah generik. # Muhammad ditahan hampir semua ritual pagan bangsa Arab di Kaba dan didefinisikan ulang mereka dalam hal monoteistik. # Terlepas dari spesifik dari fakta, jelas bahwa Islam adalah berasal dari paganisme yang pernah menyembah dewa-bulan. # Meskipun Islam adalah agama monoteis hari ini, akarnya dalam paganisme.
[proletar] Re: BALAS DENDAM jilid 1: 69 tewas di Pakistan
Tereak Allahu Akbar kini sudah menjadi tradisi teriakan setiap pihak. Jadi tak menjadi jaminan bahwa itu beragama Islam. Setelah itu korbannya pun ternyata umat Islam juga ! Jadi ini adalah masalah politik; yang kemudian diagamakan oleh kelompok pembenci Islam. Sehingga kelihatannya buat pembenci Islam tak ada prinadi atau kelompok Yang ada adalah ISLAM Jahat dan agama tak bermoral ! Padahal pelakunya sendiri belum tentu shalat; yang artinya bukan orang Islam yang baik ! Kalau orang Islam yang tak baik ini dijadikan ukuran, maka... kita tahu akibatnya dan ini hanyalah manipulasi orang pembenci Islam ! Berbau FITNAH ! Cobalah beri kesempatan orang Islam demham kelom[oknya jangan dipukul rata ! Kalau yang menzalimi dan yang dizalimi sama2 orang yang NGAKU Islam; maka tak bisa disebut Islam ajaran tak bermoral; karena mereka bukan mewakili AGAMA ! Mereka bertindak atas kelompoknya masing2. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Teriak Allahu Akbar lalu jlegurrr 69 orang TIDAK BERDOSA MATI. Penganut agama tidak bermoral beraksi. Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 69 Dead in Pakistan Published May 13, 2011 May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. AP May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. Twin explosions struck a paramilitary training center in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing at least 69 people, in what the Pakistani Taliban described as its first revenge for the killing of Usama bin Laden. The group threatened bigger attacks to come, in a statement shortly after the explosions. The blasts targeted newly trained recruits about to be bussed home on leave in Pakistan's Charsadda district, near the Afghan border. A suicide bomber detonated at least one of the blasts at the main gate of the facility for the Frontier Constabulary, a poorly equipped but front-line force in Pakistan's battle against Al Qaeda and allied Islamist groups close to the Afghan border. Like other branches of Pakistan security forces, it has received U.S. funding. More than 100 people were wounded, and nearly all the victims were recruits. This was the first revenge for Usama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location. The scene of the blast was littered with shards of glass mixed with blood and human flesh. The explosions destroyed at least 10 vans the recruits were boarding to go home for a short break at the end of a recent training session. Dr. Abdul Hameed Afridi of Lady Rieding Hospital in Peshawar said 117 people have been treated at the hospital, including 40 with critical wounds. About 3 to 4 pounds of explosives were used in one explosion, said police officer Jahanzeb Khan. Ball bearings and nails were used in another, heightening the death toll, he said. A vegetable vendor at the site said some recruits were seated in white minivans and others were loading luggage atop the vehicles. There was a big blast, he said. I saw smoke, blood and body pieces all around. The attack was a savage reminder of the toll militant groups are taking on Pakistan even as it faces international suspicion that elements within its security forces may have been harboring bin Laden, who was killed in a raid about three hours' drive from Peshawar. Police official Nisar Khan said a suicide bomber, a man in his late teens or early 20s, set off one blast. The cause of the other explosion was not yet known, he said. The first blast occurred in the middle of the road, and after that there was a huge blast that was more powerful than the first, said Abdul Wahid, a 25-year-old recruit whose legs were wounded in the blasts. He said he was knocked to the ground by the force of the explosions. After falling, I just started crawling and dragging myself to a safer place ... along the wall of a roadside shop, he said. Ahmad Ali, a wounded paramilitary policeman, recalled the horror when the explosions turned a festive Friday morning into a bloodbath. I was sitting in a van waiting for my colleagues. We were in plain clothes and we were happy we were going to see our families, he told AFP by telephone from Shabqadar hospital. I heard someone shouting 'Allah Akbar' and then I heard a huge blast. I was hit by something in my back shoulder. In the meantime I heard another blast and I jumped out of the van. I felt that I was injured and bleeding. The Pakistani Taliban last week threatened to attack security forces to avenge bin Laden's killing. The Sept. 11 mastermind and at least four others were killed by U.S. Navy SEALs who
[proletar] Re: STUDI ALIEN DAN AGAMA
Alien itu jelas banyak; hadi jelas bukan Tuhan Yang SATU --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Baik. Kuliahmu menjadi studi kasus yang baik. Lanjutkan!! Aku juga berjanji akan mengkaji ini lebih dalam. Dalam agama non Islam juga banyak pengaruh alien2 ini. pemdun --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kok jauh amat? Ada yg nyembah cor-coran, semen atau logam, ada kayu dipaku kiri-kanan, atau patung lalu manusia jongkok hormat didepannya. Sekarang ini lho dan kamu bisa lihat saja sendiri. Ada juga yg nyembah api, juga yg sangat memuliakan daya fikirnya atau posisi maupun harta duniawi. Atau mengigau memuja arwah nenek moyang atau setan gentayangan. Vatikan saja pernah kok punya tempat khusus muja satan, meski yg namanya pedofil atau homo dan diwariskan kepada para rohaniwannya. Kalik orang tuamu maupun kamu sendiri termasuk pemuja dari antara yg nDeboost paparkan diatas. Coba kamu bayangkan, ada yg mampu melihat langit terbuka atau 1/3 jumlah bintang diseret ekor naga ke bumi. Atau ada sosok ga bersilsilah, ga ada awal atau akhir. Lalu peperangan antara malaikat jahat vs malaikat baik di surga. Atau ada sosok (mayat) naik ke surga. Mengapa kamu mengecualikan yg itu? Kalau Al Qur'an menyampaikan ada makhluk diantara langit dan bumi namun ga disebut dimana ga ada hubungannya dg kepercayaan Arab kuno. Orang Arab jahiliah dulu entah apa-apa yg mereka sembah, wallahua'lam. Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia 'Mangnya ada berapa Kaba? Kamu mengigau atau mitenah? Melek dong. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. Jadi utk apa ngajak studi yg demikian gak netralnya? Kamu tujukan saja kepada gereja biar ga dipermalukan. Ga lagi mengulangi kezaliman yg ditimpakan misalnya kpd Galileo. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Mengingat bahwa agama itu asalnya adalah supranatural: malaikat, Allah, dewa, hantu, penampakan, langit yang artinya kemungkinan besar adalah ALIEN dari ANGKASA LUAR, maka aku mengajak kalian semua yg obyektif dan rasional untuk menguji semua agama berdasarkan hipotesis ini, sekaligus mengenali alien dengan berbagai varian dan tujuan mereka. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. ALIEN GODS -ISLAM BAHAYA LATENT Bulan itu ada penduduknya. Banyak orang bersaksi pernah melihatnya. Mungkinkah simbol Bulan Bintang itu berkaitan dengan fakta bahwa Alloh itu adalah ALIEN?? ALIEN KATA ORANG PUNYA MARKAS DI BULAN. Banyak sekali kalau dicari di google Alien Moon http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html Alien moon,Why NASA Never Returned To The Moon,1of3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjn10Of2hPs http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6507661008750185648# masih sangat banyak lagi di youtube dan di web DEWI BULANnya orang Arab , AL-ILAH Lalu orang Arab pra-Islam menyembah bulan dan tuhannya yang bernama al-Ilah (Al-Lat yang disebut di Qur'an?). Moon worship, agama Arab jahiliyah dewanya bernama al-ilah http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm Translated dari English # ibadah Dewi Bulan telah dipraktikkan di Saudi sejak tahun 2000 SM. Bulan sabit adalah simbol paling umum dari ibadah pagan bulan sejauh 2000 SM. # Di Mekah, ada dewa bernama Hubal yang Tuhannya Kabah. # Hubal adalah dewa bulan. # Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia: Sekitar empat ratus tahun sebelum kelahiran Muhammad bin Amr satu Lahyo ... keturunan dari Qahtan dan raja Hijaz, telah menempatkan berhala bernama Hubal di atap Ka'bah. Ini adalah salah satu dewa utama dari Quraisy sebelum Islam. (Muhammad Nabi saw, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim) # Dewa Bulan juga disebut sebagai al-ilah. Ini bukan nama yang tepat dari suatu dewa tunggal tertentu, tetapi referensi generik berarti dewa. Setiap kafir lokal suku Arab akan lihat sendiri kafir suku lokal mereka tuhan sebagai al-ilah. # Al-ilah kemudian disingkat menjadi Allah sebelum Muhammad mulai mempromosikan agama barunya di 610 AD. # Ada bukti bahwa Hubal disebut sebagai Allah. # Ketika Muhammad datang, dia menjatuhkan semua referensi nama Hubal tapi mempertahankan Allah generik. # Muhammad ditahan hampir semua ritual pagan bangsa Arab di Kaba dan
[proletar] Aljazeera: Scores killed in Pakistan twin bomb attacks
Central South Asia Scores killed in Pakistan twin bomb attacks Early morning bomb blasts kill at least 73 people, mostly paramilitary recruits, in northwest of country. Last Modified: 13 May 2011 07:39 Twin bomb blasts targeting a paramilitary training centre in northwest Pakistan have killed at least 73 people, mostly paramilitary personnel, and wounded at least 100 others, police officials say. A police official said Friday's attack in Charsadda district appeared to be the work of two suicide bombers, though there was a possibility of the second bomb being planted. The Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility for the attack, terming it the first revenge for the killing of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader who was killed by US forces in Abbottabad on May 2. This was the first revenge for Osama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Ehsanullah Ehsan, a spokesman for the group, told the AFP news agency. The bombers attacked the Frontier Constabulary fort at Shabqadar early in the morning, attacking the men as they exited the fort to board buses and coaches. The attackers were riding motorbikes, with the first bomber striking at about 5:55am. The second explosion took place about eight minutes later, killing and wounding many of those who had rushed to the aid of the victims of the first blast. Some of the wounded were in critical condition and were moved to the Lady Reading hospital in Peshawar, the capital of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province, Al Jazeera's correspondent Kamal Hyder reported. Nisar Khan Marwat, the district police chief for Charsadda, told AFP that five of the dead were civilians. Sixty-five of them are from the paramilitary police. Five dead bodies of civilians were taken to Shabqadar hosiptal, he said. He added that the suicide bomber who detonated the first bomb was in his late teens or early 20s. Twelve vehicles and around 20 shops were also destroyed in the blasts, Marwat said. Between one and two kilograms of explosives were used in one explosion, police officer Jahanzeb Khan said. He added that ball bearings and nails were used in the other, increasing the death toll. 'Blood and body pieces' It is thought that there have not been a great number of civilian casualties due to the time that the attack took place, Hyder reported. The men who were attacked were going on a 10-day leave after having completed their training at the fort. A vegetable vendor at the site of the blasts told the Associated Press that some of the recruits were seated in white minivans, while others were loading luggage on top of the vehicles. There was a big blast,'' he said. I saw smoke, blood and body pieces all around.'' Relief efforts have been slow, and the local hospital is poorly equipped to deal with the large number of casualties caused by the blasts. I was sitting in a van waiting for my colleagues. We were in plain clothes and we were happy we were going to see our families, Ahmad Ali, a wounded paramilitary policeman, told the AFP news agency by telephone from the Shabqadar hospital. I heard someone shouting 'Allah Akbar' and then I heard a huge blast. I was hit by something in my back shoulder. In the meantime I heard another blast and I jumped out of the van. I felt that I was injured and bleeding. The first blast occurred in the middle of the road, and after that there was a huge blast that was more powerful than the first,'' said Abdul Wahid, a 25-year-old recruit whose legs were wounded in the blasts. He said he was knocked to the ground by the force of the explosions. After falling, I just started crawling and dragging myself to a safer place ... along the wall of a roadside shop,'' he said. Why are we being killed? Whose war is this? What is our sin?, asked an elderly man with a grey beard as the body of his teenage son was carried into the Peshawar hospital on a stretcher. The attack is the bloodiest since Osama bin Laden was killed. Militants in Pakistan said they would avenge bin Laden by attacking Pakistani state targets. More than 4,300 people have been killed in suicide and bomb attacks across Pakistan in the last four years. Pakistani lawmakers are due to receive a briefing on the bin Laden killing from high-ranking members of the military establishment on Friday during a joint session of parliament that is to be held behind closed doors. In a separate development on Friday, General Khalid Shameem Wynne, the chairman of the Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff, cancelled a visit to the United States, a military official told AFP. The official said that the trip had initially been scheduled for May 22-27, but has been cancelled in view of the prevailing environment. Wynne called Admiral Michael Mullen, his American counterpart, to cancel the visit, the official said. Source: Al Jazeera and agencies Post message:
[proletar] Re: BALAS DENDAM jilid 1: 69 tewas di Pakistan
Saya kutip: This was the first revenge for Usama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Abbas abas_amin08@... wrote: Tereak Allahu Akbar kini sudah menjadi tradisi teriakan setiap pihak. Jadi tak menjadi jaminan bahwa itu beragama Islam. Setelah itu korbannya pun ternyata umat Islam juga ! Jadi ini adalah masalah politik; yang kemudian diagamakan oleh kelompok pembenci Islam. Sehingga kelihatannya buat pembenci Islam tak ada prinadi atau kelompok Yang ada adalah ISLAM Jahat dan agama tak bermoral ! Padahal pelakunya sendiri belum tentu shalat; yang artinya bukan orang Islam yang baik ! Kalau orang Islam yang tak baik ini dijadikan ukuran, maka... kita tahu akibatnya dan ini hanyalah manipulasi orang pembenci Islam ! Berbau FITNAH ! Cobalah beri kesempatan orang Islam demham kelom[oknya jangan dipukul rata ! Kalau yang menzalimi dan yang dizalimi sama2 orang yang NGAKU Islam; maka tak bisa disebut Islam ajaran tak bermoral; karena mereka bukan mewakili AGAMA ! Mereka bertindak atas kelompoknya masing2. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Teriak Allahu Akbar lalu jlegurrr 69 orang TIDAK BERDOSA MATI. Penganut agama tidak bermoral beraksi. Taliban's 'First Revenge' for Bin Laden Killing Leaves 69 Dead in Pakistan Published May 13, 2011 May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. AP May 13: In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, people transfer an injured man to a hospital in Peshawar, Pakistan. Twin explosions struck a paramilitary training center in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing at least 69 people, in what the Pakistani Taliban described as its first revenge for the killing of Usama bin Laden. The group threatened bigger attacks to come, in a statement shortly after the explosions. The blasts targeted newly trained recruits about to be bussed home on leave in Pakistan's Charsadda district, near the Afghan border. A suicide bomber detonated at least one of the blasts at the main gate of the facility for the Frontier Constabulary, a poorly equipped but front-line force in Pakistan's battle against Al Qaeda and allied Islamist groups close to the Afghan border. Like other branches of Pakistan security forces, it has received U.S. funding. More than 100 people were wounded, and nearly all the victims were recruits. This was the first revenge for Usama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location. The scene of the blast was littered with shards of glass mixed with blood and human flesh. The explosions destroyed at least 10 vans the recruits were boarding to go home for a short break at the end of a recent training session. Dr. Abdul Hameed Afridi of Lady Rieding Hospital in Peshawar said 117 people have been treated at the hospital, including 40 with critical wounds. About 3 to 4 pounds of explosives were used in one explosion, said police officer Jahanzeb Khan. Ball bearings and nails were used in another, heightening the death toll, he said. A vegetable vendor at the site said some recruits were seated in white minivans and others were loading luggage atop the vehicles. There was a big blast, he said. I saw smoke, blood and body pieces all around. The attack was a savage reminder of the toll militant groups are taking on Pakistan even as it faces international suspicion that elements within its security forces may have been harboring bin Laden, who was killed in a raid about three hours' drive from Peshawar. Police official Nisar Khan said a suicide bomber, a man in his late teens or early 20s, set off one blast. The cause of the other explosion was not yet known, he said. The first blast occurred in the middle of the road, and after that there was a huge blast that was more powerful than the first, said Abdul Wahid, a 25-year-old recruit whose legs were wounded in the blasts. He said he was knocked to the ground by the force of the explosions. After falling, I just started crawling and dragging myself to a safer place ... along the wall of a roadside shop, he said. Ahmad Ali, a wounded paramilitary policeman, recalled the horror when the explosions turned a festive Friday morning into a bloodbath. I was sitting in a van waiting for my colleagues. We were in plain clothes and we were happy we were going to see our families, he told AFP by telephone from Shabqadar hospital. I heard someone shouting 'Allah Akbar'
[proletar] Re: pantesab koruptor makin merajalela. (Abbas Amin sudah nggak waras...)
Abbas Amin jelas sudah nggak waras.. Dia harap item abu kudu on-line terus menerus buat ngeladeni omongannya (Abbas Amin) yang suka ngaco serta pemeran isi otaknya yang busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Abbas abas_amin08@... wrote: ndeboost. mana tuh si item abugosok ? kok ngilang lagi sih? Baru kutinggal jum'atan sebentar. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Bro, koruptor keknya haram mereka sentuh. Artinya wajib dibela (paling ga dg cara soft, ga diberitakan banget) karena kalau ga ada koruptor maka pendidikan dan kondisi sos-ek rakyat Indonesia yg mayoritas Islam akan sangat membaik dan ini membahayakan kelangsungan hidupnya gereja maupun Yahudi dan antek-anteknya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Abbas Amin abas_amin08@ wrote: Gereja sudah melarang hukuman berat kok. kata Jusfiq. Jadi dengan hukuman berat saja maling tak takut ! Apalagi tanpa hukuman berat ! Hehehehe si Jusfiq, menjilat pantat PAUS agar pengikutnya mendukung kezaliman dia. Dimana yang didukungpun sebenarnya tak masuk akal sehat sama sekali; sebab sepertinya membiarkan KORUPTOR dan penyelewengan merajalela. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: pantesab koruptor makin merajalela. (Abbas Amin penipu..)
Abbas Amin ini jelas sduah nggak waras. Ngomong asal cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yagn baru dientotin monyet bonobo sekedar unjuk isi otaknya yang sudah busuk, nista lagi menjjikkan. Pertama: yang saya bilang adalah: gereja katolik Roma dan gereja anggota WCC menentang hukuman mati... Dan ini betul. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Abbas Amin abas_amin08@... wrote: Gereja sudah melarang hukuman berat kok. kata Jusfiq. Jadi dengan hukuman berat saja maling tak takut ! Apalagi tanpa hukuman berat ! Hehehehe si Jusfiq, menjilat pantat PAUS agar pengikutnya mendukung kezaliman dia. Dimana yang didukungpun sebenarnya tak masuk akal sehat sama sekali; sebab sepertinya membiarkan KORUPTOR dan penyelewengan merajalela. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... tuh kan.., dari sulu udah dikasih tau kalo lagi on-line jangan stoned. dasar junkie nggak bisa dibilangin sih... btw, emangnya diapain tuh komp bisa sampe rusak gitu? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: bintang merahnya trus bersinar..
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Aku tahu kalian di sini untuk membunuhku. Tembak, pengecut! Kalian hanyalah pembunuh. - che (14 Mei 1928 - 9 Oktober 1967) baru aja nonton film 'apocalypse now redux'. katanya perang itu mencakup 3 hal, kekuasaan, uang, dan pameran senjata, dan semuanya itu dibungkus menjadi satu, keserakahan. my fav scene... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Decko2h-S20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_712bA8Zo Hasta siempre, comandante (let's start) Hasta siempre, comandante (mars track) Hasta siempre, comandante (revolution never stopped) Hasta siempre, comandante (revolution will never die) Hasta siempre, comandante (Mahatma Gandhi) Hasta siempre, comandante (Bung Karno) Hasta siempre, comandante (Cut Nya Dien) Hasta siempre, comandante (as always) Hasta siempre, comandante (bangkit) Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Rp 50m Paycheck For DPR Members
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: 55 juta sebln? Hehehe... mana cukup tuh, makanya anggota DPR itu nyari proyek lain spy bisa dpt ratusan juta atau lebih seblm. iya, emang goblok tuh anggota dpr. mendingan dia jadi pendeta kristen yang bisa nyolobg duit perpuluhan umatnya, seperti pendeta tong. kalo dpr ketahuan nyolong, bisa repot dihujat sana-sini sama rakyat. kalo pendeta ketahuan nyolong perpululan umatnya, ma\ereka diem aja kayak babi bengong. abis umatnya pada bego semua sih kayak elu. Emangnya, anggota DPR itu kalah dgn Gayus yg bisa ngumpulin 100 M lebih dlm tempo 5 thn? emangya pendeta tong bisa lebih banyak nyolong duitnya dari pada gayus ya? From: sunny ambon@... To: Undisclosed-Recipient@... Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 4:39:54 AM Subject: [proletar] Rp 50m Paycheck For DPR Members Refl. Sekalipun gaji Rp 50,-- juta ditambah tunjangan legal mau pun tidak legal sudah lumayan besar, tetapi agaknya masih saja kurang jadi perlu dinaikan menjadi misalnya Rp 100,-- juta atau lebih lagi, agar anggota DPR pada waktu sidang bisa lebih sering nonton film porno atau main tetris seperti wanita yang terlihat pada gambar.Siapa yang tidak mau gaji besar dengan berkedudukan menjadi anggota DPR? http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/rp-50m-paycheck-for-dpr-members/440842 Rp 50m Paycheck For DPR Members Anita Rachman | May 13, 2011 A house member playing Tetris on her iPad during a plenary meeting at the House of Representatives. Indonesian lawmakers' take home pay could reach as much at Rp 51.5 million per month. JG Photo/Yudhi Sukma Wijaya How much money do Indonesian lawmakers actually take home every month? Judging from what one lawmaker has to say about it, the figure exceeds Rp 51 million ($6,000) - too much, many would think. Basuki Tjahaja Purnama, from the Golkar Party, said that every month, he receives Rp 51.5 million in take-home pay after taxes. This includes his basic salary, allowances and benefits. He said that the various sums of money he received each month included an intensive communications stipend, a monitoring and budgeting allowance, a committee allowance, a phone and electricity allowance, an aspiration allowance (for meeting with constituents) and even an honor allowance. House leaders, he said, had even more pay and stipends, with a commission chairman taking home Rp 54.9 million per month and deputies Rp 53.6 million. Roy Salam, from the Indonesian Budget Center, told the Jakarta Globe that based on their current performance, members of the House of Representatives did not deserve such high wages. He cited a slow legislation process, poor attendance of meetings and wasteful trips overseas. Why are we paying them that much for their poor performances? Roy asked. It must be revised, it must be adjusted to their performance. Basuki said political parties usually garnished the salaries of their lawmakers. Golkar, for instance, took Rp 3.3 million from him each month. Basuki added that since the completion of a housing complex for lawmakers, they no longer received a Rp 12.5 million monthly housing allowance. However, he said that other sources of state funds had been found or were being sought to offset the loss. They have been looking for new [budget] posts, so our total take-home pay has only been reduced by about Rp 6 million. Basuki said that he even heard that lawmakers were trying to add more budget posts so that they would still receive the same allowance as before the housing complex was completed. Syarifuddin Sudding, from the People's Conscience Party (Hanura), told the Globe that he never paid attention to the details of his salary and allowances. All lawmakers receive about the same income, he said, adding that the amounts were not regulated by the lawmakers themselves. It's the Household Affairs Committee [BURT] and the House Secretariat that sets the standard, Syarifuddin said. He added that the allowances received by lawmakers were reasonable, given the fact that they needed financial support to communicate with constituents as well as pass laws. However, Refrizal, BURT deputy chairman, denied it was his committee that set salaries and allowances, saying it was the House Secretariat, which was just following state guidelines. Refrizal also said the take-home pay was not as high as Basuki claimed. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage:
[proletar] Re: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,
Apa nggak ada yang bisa membawa rezameutia ini ke psikiater? Keadaannnya makin parah aja. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... tuh kan.., dari sulu udah dikasih tau kalo lagi on-line jangan stoned. dasar junkie nggak bisa dibilangin sih... btw, emangnya diapain tuh komp bisa sampe rusak gitu? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Bls: [proletar] Jusfiq saking begonya nggak mampu punya anak...
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe... dgn orang Islam ngoceh ga keruan ttg auloh berkontol apa kagak, orang Islam itu ngaku bhw auloh itu ga punya kontol. Kasihan ga tuh, auloh aja kalah dgn anjing gua krn anjing gua punya kontol, auloh kagak. ya udah, lu jadiin aja anjing lu sebagai allah. kalo allah bisa punya anak seperti tuhan jesus, tentunya tuhan jesus juga bisa punya anjing kan? bisa aja tuh anjing lu dikatakan allah sama seperti tuhan jesus. hahaha Gua ga nanya siapa nama anak si keparat pedophile yg jadi tauladan lu, gua nanya siapa bininya yg beranak selain Khadijah. Dan ga ada bininya yg beranak selain Khadijah, krn Ibrahim itu bukan anak dr bini si keparat pedophile itu. Kayaknya lu ga tau siapa yg beranak ngelahirin Ibrahim, heheheh kasihan amat sih lu ini. tuh kan, tipikal anjing sipit yang langsung ngacir dan oot. kemarin bilangnya nabi muhammad nggak punya anak selain dari khadijah. setelah gw kasih tau punya anak dari maria yang bernama ibrahim, langsung oot. udah lah.., sebaiknya lu lu berlutut, ngomong ama kontol gw sambil minta maaf, karena level intelektualitas lu emang lebih rendah dari manusia normal, makanya lebih cocok ngomong ama kontol gw aja deh. cepetan berlutut dan ngomong ama kontol gw ya. ditunggu ama kontol gw ya.. Lu bangga2in kontol lu, padahal auloh lu itu ga punya kontol. Nyindir auloh yah? Hehehe ... lu bangga2in anjing lu punya kontol, itu karena anjing lu ngencuk anak sendiri sama seperti elu ya? cuman, anjing elu nggak piara cabo yang namanya sama seperti ibunya sendiri, kayak elu piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibu lu sendiri. kalo gitu dalam hal ini siapa yang lebih rendah moralnya, elu atau anjing elu? hehehe From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:29:20 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [proletar] Jusfiq saking begonya nggak mampu punya anak... nih orang begonya emang kelewatan. karena tuhannya yang disembah dan dipuja si item adalah orang bule berkulit putih, berambut pirang, bermata biru, dan punya kontol lalu piara cabo pula, maka dia juga berpikiran tuhan2 yang lain juga punya kontol seperti tuhan jesus. mana ada tuhan islam, tuhan buddha, tuhan yahudi, tuhan hindu dan tuhan2 lainnya yang punya kontol seperti tuhan jesus? apa elu juga berpikiran bahwa tuhan islam, tuhan buddha, tuhan yahudi, dan tuhan2 lainnya itu pecundang tolol seperti tuhan jesus juga? orang kristen emang begonya kelewatan sampe dia punya pikiran tuhan itu punya kontol. hehehe... btw, nabi muhammad punya anak laki2, namanya ibrahim. setelah gw sebutin nama anaknya nabi muhammad seperti permintaan elu, sekarang gw minta elu berlutut dan minta maaf secara khusuk kepada kontol gw. itu dikarenakan karena elu levelnya sederajat dengan kontol gw. ditunggu ama kontol gw ye... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hihihi... apa auloh itu punya kontol? Pertanyaan ini ga pernah dijawab oleh orang Islam. Ga ada yg berani jawab, hehehe... Padahal dgn bilang bhw auloh itu ga bisa punya anak berhubung ngejomblo, maka auloh itu ngaku bhw sebetulnya auloh itu punya kontol jg. Kalo ga punya kontol, ngapain hrs ngomong spt itu, bilang aja ane ga berkontol jadi ane ga bisa punya anak/ Hehehe gua bilang nabi pedophile itu ga punya anak dr bini2nya selain dr Khadijah. Kalo ga percaya, sebutin deh bininya yg beranak dr sekian belas bini si keparat itu. From: rezameutia rezameutia@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 12:59:25 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [proletar] Jusfiq saking begonya nggak mampu punya anak... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Apa auloh itu punya kontol? hahaha tuhan punya kontol seperti tuhan jesus? ntar, tu tuhan juga piara cabo seperti tuhan jesus? Ngomong2, nabi Islam itu jg ga bisa punya anak dr bini2nya selain dgn Khadijah, hehehe hehehe kata siapa nabi muhammad nggak punya anak selain dari khadijah? si anjing sipit pemakan taik di faithfreedom nggak tau kalo nabi muhammad punya anak dari perempuan lain selain khadijah. gw dah bilang, nabi muhammad gagah perkasa, nggak seperti tuhan jesus si pecundang tolol yang dikibulin dan ditinggal kabur sama murid2nya sendiri. Apa kontol nabi Islam itu cuma asesoris aja? kayak kontolnya tuhan jesus yang kegunaannya cuma bisa dipake kencing doang? btw, kenapa sih tuhan jesus piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibunya sendiri? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Ogah, ngapain gua baca sampah. hehehe... takut ya? malu ya? itu kan tulisan elu sendiri, kok bisa2nya tulisan elu sendiri dikatakan sampah? ini kan kebiasaan orang bego, belum baca apa2 tapi udah mengambil kesimpulan sendiri dengan mengatakan tulisan sampah. padahal, elu sendiri punya mental anjing yang demen baca tulisan sampah di faithfreedom. baca dong tulisan sampah karya elu sendiri. gw cuman mau minta penjelasan tentang tulisan ini, apakah lu 'sharing everything' dengan si anjing tua atau elu cuman kebetulan lagi ngeloco bareng sambi menjilati pantat masing2 seperti layaknya anjing tua dan anjing sipit? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 kalo auloh bisa bersumpah demi apa aja nunjukin bhw dia maha kuasa, tukang jual obat jg maha kuasa krn bisa ngibul apa aja.\ Sebetulnya kasihan jg gua ngeliat orang Islam, krn punya auloh yg bersumpah demi apa aja. Sumpah demi buah tin, demi kota, demi pena, demi bintang yg terbenam, demi fajar yg kesiangan dll. Lebih parah lagi, sumpah demi fajar kesiangan itu apa artinya? Ga ada fajar yg kesiangan, berarti auloh itu bersumpah demi barang fiktif. Alias ngibul tulen. From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:06:25 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe gua sih kalo mau jg bisa ngibul apa aja, bisa sumpah demi apa aja kayak auloh. Cuma gua aja yg enggan melakukan hal2 spt itu, krn merendahkan derajat gua sendiri. hehehe coba deh lu jangan ngacir, jangan oot, jangan ngibul dan kasih penjelasan tentang tulisan ini. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Suryana orang Nasrani yang nista...
Berbeda dengan peserta mailing list ini yang beragama Islam yang rata-rata otaknya sudah pada rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan dan jadi bajingan tukang fitnah dan bangsat pendusta, orang Nasrani sebaliknya berusaha betul menghindarkan dusta dan fitnah. Kecuali Suryana, yang seperti juga orang Islam suka berdusta dan memfitnah. Dan yang menyolok pula dengan Suryana ini adalah bahwa walaupun rezamrutia yang psikopat dan, kampiun tukang fitnah itu tidak henti-hentinya menghina dan menyebar dusta tentang agama Nasrani tapi duh mesranya hubungan mereka berdua, kayak hubungan sado-masochist antara Saud Abdulaziz bin Nasser al Saud dan Bandar Abdulaziz Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad di perang badar? dari semua perang badar, uhud, khandaq, nabi muhammad tidak pernah membunuh orang. sebutin siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dalam perang2 tersebut? pampasan perang dan ngerampok beda dong. bego banget sih lu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe... contohnya di perang Badr yg terbesar, nabi lu itu kan ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Lu tau ga perang Badr yg terbesar? From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:10:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan sebutin dong, siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dan kapan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: STUDI ALIEN DAN AGAMA
lah tuhan juga bukan cuma satu tapi ada banyak, jadi ya sama dengan Alien. Rahayu --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Abbas abas_amin08@... wrote: Alien itu jelas banyak; hadi jelas bukan Tuhan Yang SATU --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Baik. Kuliahmu menjadi studi kasus yang baik. Lanjutkan!! Aku juga berjanji akan mengkaji ini lebih dalam. Dalam agama non Islam juga banyak pengaruh alien2 ini. pemdun --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kok jauh amat? Ada yg nyembah cor-coran, semen atau logam, ada kayu dipaku kiri-kanan, atau patung lalu manusia jongkok hormat didepannya. Sekarang ini lho dan kamu bisa lihat saja sendiri. Ada juga yg nyembah api, juga yg sangat memuliakan daya fikirnya atau posisi maupun harta duniawi. Atau mengigau memuja arwah nenek moyang atau setan gentayangan. Vatikan saja pernah kok punya tempat khusus muja satan, meski yg namanya pedofil atau homo dan diwariskan kepada para rohaniwannya. Kalik orang tuamu maupun kamu sendiri termasuk pemuja dari antara yg nDeboost paparkan diatas. Coba kamu bayangkan, ada yg mampu melihat langit terbuka atau 1/3 jumlah bintang diseret ekor naga ke bumi. Atau ada sosok ga bersilsilah, ga ada awal atau akhir. Lalu peperangan antara malaikat jahat vs malaikat baik di surga. Atau ada sosok (mayat) naik ke surga. Mengapa kamu mengecualikan yg itu? Kalau Al Qur'an menyampaikan ada makhluk diantara langit dan bumi namun ga disebut dimana ga ada hubungannya dg kepercayaan Arab kuno. Orang Arab jahiliah dulu entah apa-apa yg mereka sembah, wallahua'lam. Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia 'Mangnya ada berapa Kaba? Kamu mengigau atau mitenah? Melek dong. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. Jadi utk apa ngajak studi yg demikian gak netralnya? Kamu tujukan saja kepada gereja biar ga dipermalukan. Ga lagi mengulangi kezaliman yg ditimpakan misalnya kpd Galileo. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Mengingat bahwa agama itu asalnya adalah supranatural: malaikat, Allah, dewa, hantu, penampakan, langit yang artinya kemungkinan besar adalah ALIEN dari ANGKASA LUAR, maka aku mengajak kalian semua yg obyektif dan rasional untuk menguji semua agama berdasarkan hipotesis ini, sekaligus mengenali alien dengan berbagai varian dan tujuan mereka. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. ALIEN GODS -ISLAM BAHAYA LATENT Bulan itu ada penduduknya. Banyak orang bersaksi pernah melihatnya. Mungkinkah simbol Bulan Bintang itu berkaitan dengan fakta bahwa Alloh itu adalah ALIEN?? ALIEN KATA ORANG PUNYA MARKAS DI BULAN. Banyak sekali kalau dicari di google Alien Moon http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html Alien moon,Why NASA Never Returned To The Moon,1of3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjn10Of2hPs http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6507661008750185648# masih sangat banyak lagi di youtube dan di web DEWI BULANnya orang Arab , AL-ILAH Lalu orang Arab pra-Islam menyembah bulan dan tuhannya yang bernama al-Ilah (Al-Lat yang disebut di Qur'an?). Moon worship, agama Arab jahiliyah dewanya bernama al-ilah http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm Translated dari English # ibadah Dewi Bulan telah dipraktikkan di Saudi sejak tahun 2000 SM. Bulan sabit adalah simbol paling umum dari ibadah pagan bulan sejauh 2000 SM. # Di Mekah, ada dewa bernama Hubal yang Tuhannya Kabah. # Hubal adalah dewa bulan. # Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia: Sekitar empat ratus tahun sebelum kelahiran Muhammad bin Amr satu Lahyo ... keturunan dari Qahtan dan raja Hijaz, telah menempatkan berhala bernama Hubal di atap Ka'bah. Ini adalah salah satu dewa utama dari Quraisy sebelum Islam. (Muhammad Nabi saw, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim) # Dewa Bulan juga disebut sebagai al-ilah. Ini bukan nama yang tepat dari suatu dewa tunggal tertentu, tetapi referensi generik berarti dewa. Setiap kafir lokal suku Arab akan lihat sendiri kafir suku lokal mereka tuhan sebagai al-ilah. # Al-ilah kemudian disingkat menjadi Allah sebelum Muhammad mulai mempromosikan agama
[proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala
udah nggak bisa diskusi lagi, langsung oot dan ngayal.
pendidikan agama kristen yang penuh dogma sehingga nggak heran cara berpikirnya
orang kristen seperti zombie, demen ngayal seperti orang retarded, seperti
tipikal orang kristen bego.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote:
Hehehe... auloh ngasih perintah, lalu orang islam mikir koq perintah auloh
itu
bejad.
Maka auloh ngoceh bisa jadi ente mikir perintah ane itu bejad, tp ente itu
dungu2 kayak kebo, ga tau perintah ane ini perintah yg baik, ente itu hrsnya
jadi zombie idiot aja, kalo disuruh2 jangan mikir, tp lakukan aja, krn ane
ini
maha tahu sedangkan ente ini maha goblok
Maka, jadilah orang Islam sbg zombie idiot, krn auloh itu maha kuasa, cukup
auloh bilang Quran itu buat orang mikir, maka zombie idiot ini pada
berpendapat
bhw mereka itu udah mikir.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@...
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:07:31 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada
di
Kepala
hehehe..., si anjing sipit oot dan muter2 kayak anjing ngejar ekornya.
gw kan udah tulis tuh dibawah nama suratnya sekalian. disitu kan jelas
dituls
('boleh jadi kamu...). kalo lu baca surat ini dan punya pengertian lain,
silahkan ditulis apa pengertian lu tentang surat ini.
masalahnya kristen bego otaknya nggak terbiasa dipake mikir sih.
gw kan udah bilang, lu baca quran musti dipake otak nya karena al quran untuk
orang2 yang berpikir. beda dengan alkitab yang berisi tulisan cabul seperti
kitab porno.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe lu baca bagian yg gua hapus dan gua ganti dgn ... , di situ
jelas
koq
auloh ngasih perintah, jadi yg dianggap bejad itu adalah perintah auloh,
bukan
musibah.
Gua kelupaan ngasih ayat lengkapnya, 2:216.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 12:49:48 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang
Ada di
Kepala
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe... Islam itu adalah agama buat zombie idiot, auloh sendiri yg
ngelarang
orang Islam buat mikir.
216. ... Boleh jadi kamu membenci sesuatu, padahal ia amat baik bagimu,
dan
boleh jadi (pula) kamu menyukai sesuatu, padahal ia amat buruk bagimu;
Allah
mengetahui, sedang kamu tidak mengetahui.
Kalo orang bisa mikir, dia akan bertanya koq orang bisa ngebenci perintah
auloh.
Artinya perintah auloh itu bisa merupakan perintah bejad di pandangan
orang
pada
umumnya.
hmmm...,
lu tinggal baca ayat sederhana di al baqarah kayak gini aja nggak ngerti?
coba deh lu pake otak lu, ayat ini kan artinya sederhana sekali, bahwa
dalam
setiap musibah pasti ada hikmahnya. manusia nggak suka dan membenci setiap
musibah yang menimpanya, tapi dibalik musibah itu pasti ada kebaikannya
(hikmahnya). ngerti nggak?!
kalo elu masih nggak ngerti juga, gw kasih contoh kongkritnya bapak lu
mati.
kematian itu kan merupakan suatu musibah, tapi dibalik musibah itu
merupakan
suatu hikmah karena bapak lu udah nggak pusing dan sedih lagi punya anak
yang
'lahirnya kesasar' sehingga begonya kelewatan seperti elu.
elu dari sejak lahir udah karena kesasar.
seharusnya kan elu keluarnya dari pantat jadinya taik, tapi elu kesasar ke
memek
sehingga keluarnya jadi elu dah. makanya nggak heran kalo kepala lu isinya
taik
dan begonya kelewatan.
iya kan?!
hehehe
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[proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/afghanistan.madrassa/index.html?hpt=Mid
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote:
udah nggak bisa diskusi lagi, langsung oot dan ngayal.
pendidikan agama kristen yang penuh dogma sehingga nggak heran cara
berpikirnya orang kristen seperti zombie, demen ngayal seperti orang
retarded, seperti tipikal orang kristen bego.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe... auloh ngasih perintah, lalu orang islam mikir koq perintah auloh
itu
bejad.
Maka auloh ngoceh bisa jadi ente mikir perintah ane itu bejad, tp ente itu
dungu2 kayak kebo, ga tau perintah ane ini perintah yg baik, ente itu
hrsnya
jadi zombie idiot aja, kalo disuruh2 jangan mikir, tp lakukan aja, krn ane
ini
maha tahu sedangkan ente ini maha goblok
Maka, jadilah orang Islam sbg zombie idiot, krn auloh itu maha kuasa,
cukup
auloh bilang Quran itu buat orang mikir, maka zombie idiot ini pada
berpendapat
bhw mereka itu udah mikir.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:07:31 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang
Ada di
Kepala
hehehe..., si anjing sipit oot dan muter2 kayak anjing ngejar ekornya.
gw kan udah tulis tuh dibawah nama suratnya sekalian. disitu kan jelas
dituls
('boleh jadi kamu...). kalo lu baca surat ini dan punya pengertian lain,
silahkan ditulis apa pengertian lu tentang surat ini.
masalahnya kristen bego otaknya nggak terbiasa dipake mikir sih.
gw kan udah bilang, lu baca quran musti dipake otak nya karena al quran
untuk
orang2 yang berpikir. beda dengan alkitab yang berisi tulisan cabul
seperti
kitab porno.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe lu baca bagian yg gua hapus dan gua ganti dgn ... , di situ
jelas
koq
auloh ngasih perintah, jadi yg dianggap bejad itu adalah perintah auloh,
bukan
musibah.
Gua kelupaan ngasih ayat lengkapnya, 2:216.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 12:49:48 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang
Ada di
Kepala
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe... Islam itu adalah agama buat zombie idiot, auloh sendiri yg
ngelarang
orang Islam buat mikir.
216. ... Boleh jadi kamu membenci sesuatu, padahal ia amat baik
bagimu, dan
boleh jadi (pula) kamu menyukai sesuatu, padahal ia amat buruk bagimu;
Allah
mengetahui, sedang kamu tidak mengetahui.
Kalo orang bisa mikir, dia akan bertanya koq orang bisa ngebenci
perintah
auloh.
Artinya perintah auloh itu bisa merupakan perintah bejad di pandangan
orang
pada
umumnya.
hmmm...,
lu tinggal baca ayat sederhana di al baqarah kayak gini aja nggak ngerti?
coba deh lu pake otak lu, ayat ini kan artinya sederhana sekali, bahwa
dalam
setiap musibah pasti ada hikmahnya. manusia nggak suka dan membenci
setiap
musibah yang menimpanya, tapi dibalik musibah itu pasti ada kebaikannya
(hikmahnya). ngerti nggak?!
kalo elu masih nggak ngerti juga, gw kasih contoh kongkritnya bapak lu
mati.
kematian itu kan merupakan suatu musibah, tapi dibalik musibah itu
merupakan
suatu hikmah karena bapak lu udah nggak pusing dan sedih lagi punya anak
yang
'lahirnya kesasar' sehingga begonya kelewatan seperti elu.
elu dari sejak lahir udah karena kesasar.
seharusnya kan elu keluarnya dari pantat jadinya taik, tapi elu kesasar
ke
memek
sehingga keluarnya jadi elu dah. makanya nggak heran kalo kepala lu
isinya
taik
dan begonya kelewatan.
iya kan?!
hehehe
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[proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
Auloh @dapurmu cs dan sosok full dongeng yg disetarakan anak auloh yg bernama Meslkisedek juga dapet kok bagian rampasan perang. Disamping haus emas, auloh @dapurmu cs malah minta cewe 3+ tahun. Karena @dapurmu cs kelak hidup mbujang spt malaikat, maka hanya auloh @dapurmu cs yg boleh ngembat bangsanya nun, nabiat dst. @dapurmu cs tinggal ngejomblo dan melongo. Mau cari malaikat cewe jumlahnya hanya dua, ga mungkin donk utk Kristen sekian banyak. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad di perang badar? dari semua perang badar, uhud, khandaq, nabi muhammad tidak pernah membunuh orang. sebutin siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dalam perang2 tersebut? pampasan perang dan ngerampok beda dong. bego banget sih lu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe... contohnya di perang Badr yg terbesar, nabi lu itu kan ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Lu tau ga perang Badr yg terbesar? From: rezameutia rezameutia@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:10:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan sebutin dong, siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dan kapan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] kemampuan metacognition...
Ini pentingnya anda punya kemampuan Metacognition - awareness of ones own thinking 1. Semua pengetahuan masuk ke otak kita melalui indera (ini adalah fact) 2. Saya pinjam statemen holbach All children are born Atheists; they have no idea of God. 3. and then ada konsep/idea sesuatu yang tidak terindera kita definisikan sbg god dimasukan ke alam bawah sadar anda (oleh orang tua, atau guru, or etc), dan tentunya masuknya lewat indera --- Ini hanya bisa disadari kalau anda punya kemampuan metacognition yang baik ;-) tanya: pertanyaan selanjutnya: kemampuan metacognition tersebut bisa dibangun? bagaimana bro wawan setiawan? ws: ini bagian dari kemampuan logiclogic intelijensia saya sudah cukup banyak menulis bagaimana melatih kemampuan logic, diantaranya stimulan dopamine (kopi, coklat), permainan tetris, sudoku, komputer, atau alat2 mekanis...;-).prinsipnya latih kemampuan prefrontal cortex anda ;-) Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: STUDI ALIEN DAN AGAMA
Ga usah janji, kamu terusin saja, kan garis besar bahan sdh kukasih? Silahkan dilacak-diperdalam terutama mengenai apa-bagaimana sosok auloh yg kalahan namun doyan cewe 3+tahun. Juga yg ga bersilsilah, tidak berawal maupun tidak berakhir hidupnya namun doyan harta hasil perang. Adakah dia ini sosok alien? Bahan sampingan silahkan kisahkan para sosok yg dipuja dg hio di kelentheng-kelentheng karena dianggap bisa mengabulkan permintaan para konglomerat maupun calon. Adakah para pengabul ini alien juga? Kalau tanpa hio hasilnya bagaimana? Misalnya disuguhin musik dangdut lengkap? Kalau nDeboost cukup dari Al Qur'an, yg ngasih tahu adanya alien diantara bumi dan langit. Tolong kasih tahu sanak-keluargamu kalau-kalau kita sdh ga sempat, yg Al Qur'an menyampaikan demikian. Urusan kamu percaya apa ga, nDeboost sdh menyampaikannya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Baik. Kuliahmu menjadi studi kasus yang baik. Lanjutkan!! Aku juga berjanji akan mengkaji ini lebih dalam. Dalam agama non Islam juga banyak pengaruh alien2 ini. pemdun --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ndeboost rambitesemak@ wrote: Kok jauh amat? Ada yg nyembah cor-coran, semen atau logam, ada kayu dipaku kiri-kanan, atau patung lalu manusia jongkok hormat didepannya. Sekarang ini lho dan kamu bisa lihat saja sendiri. Ada juga yg nyembah api, juga yg sangat memuliakan daya fikirnya atau posisi maupun harta duniawi. Atau mengigau memuja arwah nenek moyang atau setan gentayangan. Vatikan saja pernah kok punya tempat khusus muja satan, meski yg namanya pedofil atau homo dan diwariskan kepada para rohaniwannya. Kalik orang tuamu maupun kamu sendiri termasuk pemuja dari antara yg nDeboost paparkan diatas. Coba kamu bayangkan, ada yg mampu melihat langit terbuka atau 1/3 jumlah bintang diseret ekor naga ke bumi. Atau ada sosok ga bersilsilah, ga ada awal atau akhir. Lalu peperangan antara malaikat jahat vs malaikat baik di surga. Atau ada sosok (mayat) naik ke surga. Mengapa kamu mengecualikan yg itu? Kalau Al Qur'an menyampaikan ada makhluk diantara langit dan bumi namun ga disebut dimana ga ada hubungannya dg kepercayaan Arab kuno. Orang Arab jahiliah dulu entah apa-apa yg mereka sembah, wallahua'lam. Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia 'Mangnya ada berapa Kaba? Kamu mengigau atau mitenah? Melek dong. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. Jadi utk apa ngajak studi yg demikian gak netralnya? Kamu tujukan saja kepada gereja biar ga dipermalukan. Ga lagi mengulangi kezaliman yg ditimpakan misalnya kpd Galileo. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Mengingat bahwa agama itu asalnya adalah supranatural: malaikat, Allah, dewa, hantu, penampakan, langit yang artinya kemungkinan besar adalah ALIEN dari ANGKASA LUAR, maka aku mengajak kalian semua yg obyektif dan rasional untuk menguji semua agama berdasarkan hipotesis ini, sekaligus mengenali alien dengan berbagai varian dan tujuan mereka. Ini akan menjadi studi baru, jurusan baru dalam ILMU AGAMA. ALIEN GODS -ISLAM BAHAYA LATENT Bulan itu ada penduduknya. Banyak orang bersaksi pernah melihatnya. Mungkinkah simbol Bulan Bintang itu berkaitan dengan fakta bahwa Alloh itu adalah ALIEN?? ALIEN KATA ORANG PUNYA MARKAS DI BULAN. Banyak sekali kalau dicari di google Alien Moon http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html Alien moon,Why NASA Never Returned To The Moon,1of3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjn10Of2hPs http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6507661008750185648# masih sangat banyak lagi di youtube dan di web DEWI BULANnya orang Arab , AL-ILAH Lalu orang Arab pra-Islam menyembah bulan dan tuhannya yang bernama al-Ilah (Al-Lat yang disebut di Qur'an?). Moon worship, agama Arab jahiliyah dewanya bernama al-ilah http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm Translated dari English # ibadah Dewi Bulan telah dipraktikkan di Saudi sejak tahun 2000 SM. Bulan sabit adalah simbol paling umum dari ibadah pagan bulan sejauh 2000 SM. # Di Mekah, ada dewa bernama Hubal yang Tuhannya Kabah. # Hubal adalah dewa bulan. # Satu apologis Muslim mengaku bahwa patung dewa Hubal bulan ditempatkan di atas atap Kaba sekitar 400 tahun sebelum Muhammad. Hal ini mungkin sebenarnya asal mengapa bulan sabit berada di atas setiap menara di Kaba hari ini dan simbol pusat Islam di atas setiap masjid di seluruh dunia: Sekitar empat ratus tahun sebelum kelahiran Muhammad bin Amr satu Lahyo ... keturunan dari Qahtan dan raja Hijaz, telah menempatkan berhala bernama Hubal di
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[proletar] France24: Attack on police revenge for bin Laden death, Taliban says
Attack on police `revenge' for bin Laden death, Taliban says By News Wires the 13/05/2011 - 07:35 Two bomb explosions at a police camp in north-west Pakistan killed at least 80 people on Friday. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, calling it the first of more violence to come in revenge for the death of Osama bin Laden. REUTERS - Pakistani Taliban suicide bombers killed at least 80 people at a paramilitary force academy in the northwest on Friday, and vowed further bloodshed in retaliation for the death of Osama bin Laden in a U.S. raid in the country. The first major bombing in Pakistan since bin Laden's death on May 2, it will reinforce the common view that his elimination will not ease violence because al Qaeda is not centralised and will keep inspiring groups, like the Pakistani Taliban, which are scattered globally and loosely bound by ideology. It's the first revenge for the martyrdom of ... bin Laden. There will be more, Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said by telephone from an undisclosed location. The bomber struck soon after dawn as the recruits were on their way out of the gates of the Frontier Constabulary academy in the town of Charsadda on leave. It was a suicide bombing, said Nisar Sarwat, police chief of Charsadda, a market town surrounded by wheat fields 135 km (85 miles) from the capital Islamabad. One of the suicide bombers was on a motorcycle and police were investigating reports that the other attacker was too, he said. Of the dead, 65 were recruits. Sixty people were wounded. In the last major attack in Pakistan, an unstable South Asian country with a stagnant economy, two Taliban suicide bombers killed at least 41 people at a Sufi shrine on April 3 in a central city. A new push by militants is the last thing Pakistan needs now. The U.S. special forces operation to kill bin Laden embarrassed the Pakistani government and military, who are under pressure to explain how the al Qaeda chief lived undetected in the garrison town of Abbottabad, about a two hour drive from intelligence headquarters in Islamabad. The United States, which has questioned Pakistan's reliability as a partner in the American war on militancy, provides billions of dollars of aid to Islamabad. Security force camps, posts and training grounds have been attacked repeatedly in Pakistan over recent years and many civilians have died. `Whose war?' The scene outside the academy was familiar -- pools of blood mixed with soldiers caps and shoes. The wounded, looking dazed with parts of their clothes ripped by shrapnel, were loaded into trucks. Body parts of the suicide bomber served as a reminder of the steady supply of Pakistanis willing to blow themselves up, inspired by al Qaeda's calls for holy war. As we were sitting in the buses there was a small blast. Within moments there was a second, big blast. I fell on the road and became unconscious, said soldier Shafeeq-ur-Rehman, whose leg was wounded in the blast. As he spoke from a bed at Lady Reading hospital in the city of Peshawar, tearful people brought in dead and wounded relatives to the facility that has treated thousands of victims of the struggle between the army and militant groups. Why are we being killed? Whose war is this? What is our sin, asked an elderly man with a grey beard as the body of his teenage son was carried in on a stretcher. The Pakistani Taliban launched their insurgency in 2007 after a military raid on Islamabad's Lal Masjid, or Red Mosque, where militant leaders and others were holed up. A series of army offensives against their bases in the lawless Pashtun tribal belt on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border have failed to break their resolve. They just move from one mountain area to another when the heat is on. The killing of bin Laden in Pakistan is thought unlikely to weaken the Pakistan Taliban, while the United States has stepped up drone attacks on militants since bin Laden's death. One of bin Laden's widows told investigators he lived in Pakistan for more than seven years, security officials said. Source URL: http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-%20pakistan-bombs-revenge-osama-bin-laden-taliban-suicide-attack-violence Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com
[proletar] Abbas Amin senewenan membaca rangkaian posting...item abu
Abbas Amin senewenan membaca rangkaian posting...item abu Nggak tahan melihat kenyataan pahit lagi menyilaukan yang disampaikan item abu: ajaran agama Islam itu sungguh dungu, buas, kejam, keji, zalim lagi biadab... Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Bagian VII, Bab 6 1000+ Kesalahan Quran http://secretofquran.wordpress.com/
http://secretofquran.wordpress.com/ Bagian VII, Bab 6 “TANDA” dan “Bukti” Lain – TIDAK SATU DARI MEREKA SECARA LOGIKA VALID SEBAGAI BUKTI UNTUK ALLAH, UNTUK AJARAN-AJARAN MUHAMMAD, ATAU UNTUK ISLAM (Suatu pengecualian: Beberapa bukti dipinjam dari Alkitab, tetapi dipakai dalam kasus untuk Yahweh) Dalam bab VIII / 5 dikutip sejumlah – meskipun jauh dari semua – tempat di mana Quran / Muhammad telah mengambil fenomena alam dan menggunakan mereka sebagai “bukti” untuk Allah – - – tanpa satu kali pun untuk membuktikan bahwa Allah berada di balik fenomena yang . Kata-kata yang sangat murah, dan setiap imam di agama apapun bisa mengatakan hal yang sama tentang tuhan nya atau dewa-dewa – ya, kita bahkan tidak harus menjadi imam, karena setiap pria dan wanita bisa mengatakan hal yang sama. Kata-kata adalah yang murah dan mudah. Ingat juga bahwa dalam Quran “Daftar” sering sinonim dengan “Bukti”. Muhammad bahkan banyak kali diminta untuk bukti, tetapi hanya beberapa bicara cepat dan laporan tak terbukti + beberapa membual tentang apa yang Allah bisa melakukan “jika ia menghendaki”, untuk menawarkan (?) – bukan gumpalan sedikit pun bukti. Dalam buku “Pesan dari Quran”, bersertifikat oleh Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Akademi Riset Islam di Kairo (salah satu 2-3 universitas ternama di dunia Muslim pada subyek tersebut) Continue reading → * Recent Posts * BAGIAN VII, BAB 9 * BAGIAN VII, BAB 8 * BAGIAN VII, BAB 7 * Bagian VII, Bab 6 * BAGIAN VII, BAB 5 FENOMENA ALAM (Tidak) Digunakan sebagai “TANDA” dan “bukti” Invalid dalam QURAN * Bagian VII Bab 4 PERMINTAAN bukti untuk ALLAH DALAM QURAN * Bagian VII Bab 3 DARI Mana MUHAMMAD (atau ALLAH?) meminjam kisah-kisah DI QURAN? * BAGIAN VII BAB 2 Adakah ALLAH Tuhan yang BAIK? * Bagian VII Quran dan Allah * Bagian VI Kehidupan Muslim di negara-negara Islam * Bagian V – BAB 7 Klaim Masa Keemasan dari Koeksistensi ANTARA Memimpin ISLAM dan MUSLIM DAN NON-MUSLIM * Bagian V – Bab 6 Non-Muslim di Masa Depan dalam Dunia Muslim * Bagian V – BAB 5 ISLAM dan BUDAK MENURUT QURAN * Bagian V – Bab 4 Banyak Hasutan dalam Quran untuk tidak menyukai, memandang rendah, diskriminasi dan benci non-Muslim * Bagian V – Bab 3 Jangan Berteman dengan orang-orang Kafir * Bagian V – Bab 1 Surah Baik untuk non-Muslim * Bagian V – Bab 2 Muslim Lebih Baik daripada Orang Lainnya * Bagian IV – Bab 3 Terorisme atas nama Islam dalam Quran * Bagian IV – Bab 2: Perang dan Perang Suci – jihad – dalam Quran * Bagian IV – Bab 1 Berbagai Hasutan, Tekanan dan Perintah untuk perang di Quran * Bagian III – Bab 4 Quran tentang Yesus * Bagian III – Bab 3 Tuntutan Islam untuk Bukti dari Agama Lain * Bagian III – Bab 2 Kontradiksi Quran dibandingkan dengan Alkitab – Terlalu Banyak * Bagian III – Bab 1 Alkitab menurut Quran telah Dipalsukan? * Bagian II – Bab 9 134 Pembatalan dalam Quran. Allah mencoba dan gagal? Atau berubah pikiran? * Bagian II – Bab 8 Kontradiksi Eksternal dalam Quran (Sambungan) * Bagian II – Bab 8 350+ Kontradiksi dalam Quran * Bagian II – Bab 6 Apakah Allah adalah Tuhan yang sama dengan Yahweh? * Bagian II – Bab 5 Muhammad dalam Alkitab menurut Quran? * Bagian II – Bab 4 Animisme dan Antropomorfisme dalam Quran * Bagian II – Kesimpulan * Bagian II – Sambungan 13 * Bagian II – Sambungan 12 * Bagian II – Sambungan 11 * Bagian II – Sambungan 10 * Bagian II – Sambungan 9 * Bagian II – Sambungan 8 * Bagian II – Sambungan 7 * Bagian II – Sambungan 6 * Bagian II – Sambungan 5 * Bagian II – Sambungan 4 * Bagian II – Sambungan 3 * Bagian II – Sambungan 2 * Bagian II – Beberapa Kesalahan Nyata (Sambungan) * Bagian II – Beberapa Kesalahan Nyata Quran tentang Allah * Bagian II – 5 Mega Kesalahan * Bagian II – Manusia dan Binatang – Kesalahan penciptaan, kehidupan di Bumi dan kebangkitan * Bagian II: Alam Semesta seperti yang dijelaskan dalam Quran * Bagian II: MEGA KESALAHAN QURAN * Bagian II: Kesalahan dalam Quran * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 14) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 13) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 12) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 11) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 10) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 9) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 8) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 7) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 6) * 1000 Kesalahan Quran (Bab 5) * 1000+ KESALAHAN QURAN (Bab 4) * 1000+ KESALAHAN QURAN (Bag 3) * 1000+ KESALAHAN QURAN (Bag 2) * 1000+ KESALAHAN QURAN (Bag 1) * Daftar Isi Buku 1000+ Kesalahan Quran * Buku Baru yang akan Membuat Anda Muslim Murtad [Non-text portions of this
Re: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: Qur’an or Science?
Quran itu jelas bikinan orang banyak selama berthn2. From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:42:08 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: Qur’an or Science? habis , kan gak mungkin dari TAIK Anjiang bukan ? Dari siapa lagi --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Ga ada bukti sama sekali. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:40:52 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: QurÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢an or Science? Memang bener dicetak oleh manusia kok. Tapi isinya dari Allah. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Kalo lu make logika, maka akan kliatan bhw Quran penuh dg kesalahan2 yg berarti Quran itu cuma bikinan orang doang. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:33:22 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: QurÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢an or Science? Dan Allah Maha Logika --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Dgn orang Islam coba ngebuktikan kebenaran Quran make sains gaya Bucaille, orang Islam itu sebetulnya udah bilang bhw auloh itu tunduk pd sains. Abbas ini kliatannya masih punya logika, cuma sayangnya begitu Islam yg dinilai, logikanya ngedadak ngilang. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 10:17:26 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: QurÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢an or Science? Justru Allah diluar semua hukum alam; tapi Allah sendiri yang mencipta segala hukum alam ini; untuk kepentingan ciptaanNya. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Kalo Quran itu berisi sains yg menunjukkan Quran itu dr auloh, berarti auloh itu tunduk pd hukum sains, hehehe... Sayangnya, orang Islam yg dungu2 itu umumnya ga bisa ngerti apa yg gua bilang ini dan konsekuensinya. From: Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 10:29:42 PM Subject: [proletar] Ziauddin Sardar: Between Two Masters: QurÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢an or Science? http://ziauddinsardar.com/2011/02/quran-science/ Between Two Masters: Qur'an or Science? The headline in the Bulletin of the Islamic Medical Association of South Africa announces a staggering discovery. Canadian scholar confirms Quran and Ahadith on Human Embryology (1). The story tells us that a certain Dr Keith Moore, Chairman of the anatomy department of the University of Torontos School of Medicine, has discovered the happy marriage between the Islamic revelation and contemporary human developmental anatomy. I am amazed at the scientific accuracy of these statements which were made in the seventh centuryIt is quite reasonable for Muslims to believe that these verses are revelations from God, Moore is reported to have said. What has Keith Moore discovered that has excited the Muslim doctors, scientists and scholars so much? His paper, Highlights of human embryology in the Koran and the Hadith, was first presented at the Seventh Saudi Medical Meeting, and has since then been reprinted in a number of places (2). It simply reads modern biology into certain Quranic verses, describing the development of a foetus and illustrating them with clinical drawings and text book descriptions. For example, the Quranic verse, verily, we fashioned man from a small quantity of mingled liquids (Nut-fatin Imthjin) (76:2) is explained by Moore as referring to the mixture of a small quantity of sperms with the oocyte and its associated follicular fluid, or the male and female sexual secretion. The resulting mixed drop, made up of the ovum and penetrating sperm, becomes the zygote, the precursor of the embryo. Similarly, explanation, for example, is given of the following verses, Verily, we created man from a product of wet earth; then placed him as a drop (of seed) (Nutfatun) in a safe lodging; then fashioned We the drop a clot (alaga), then fashioned We the clot a little lump, (Mudgha) then
Re: [proletar] Re: Reposting:Dan Suryana yang dungu kayak anjing masih percaya rezameutia ini waras
6:101. Dia Pencipta langit dan bumi. Bagaimana Dia mempunyai anak padahal Dia tidak mempunyai isteri. Dia menciptakan segala sesuatu; dan Dia mengetahui segala sesuatu. tuh, auloh bilang dia ga punya anak krn ngejomblo. Coba auloh punya bini, bisa jadi auloh punya anak. Sebetulnya ayat itu ga bilang soal auloh berbini, tp auloh punya cewek, ga hrs bini. Berarti sampe pasangan kumpul kebo aja auloh kagak punya. From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:44:42 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Reposting:Dan Suryana yang dungu kayak anjing masih percaya rezameutia ini waras OH jadi ada ayat yang mengatakan Allah ngejomblo ? Dimana kau temukan itu ? Jadi kalau aku gak tahu bukan kamu yang ngawur tapi gak nyampe kan ? Supaya nyampe coba jelaskan lagi --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Logika lu yg ga nyampe, bukan logika gua yg ngawur. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:44:16 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Reposting:Dan Suryana yang dungu kayak anjing masih percaya rezameutia ini waras Hehehehe, omonganmu makin NGAWUR saja item abu ! Dikemanain logika lu !? Udah kau gade ke jusfiq yah ? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: auloh sendiri yg bilang dia ga mungkin punya anak krn ngejomblo. auoh ngaku spt itu, koq lu bisa ngomong yg lain ttg auloh lu, emangnya lu lebih tinggi dr auloh lu? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur
Tkw itu dituduh sbg pelacur dan tukang kumpul kebo dan tukang ngentot. Tkw itu jg sodara seiman lu. Apa yg akan lu perbuat, lu mau ngebela tkw itu atau lu diamkan fitnah itu? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:46:25 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Kamu bener2 gak nyambung ! yang kubilang mungkin itu bukan fitnah, tapi kenyataan; mungkin LZ tahu. Jadi jangan buru2 nuduh FITNAH ! Dasar Bego luh ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Jadi kalo sodara seiman lu itu ngefitnah tkw, maka nurut lu gua ga boleh ngeributin. Berarti, lu ga keberatan sama sekali kalo tkw difitnah. Gua ngebela tkw yg dianiaya, lu ngebela penganiaya tkw, hehehe... From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:53:07 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Mungkin saja LZ tahu hal tersebut. Kenapa kau ributin ? Kau hanya ingin menang2an doang kan ? Bukan isi diskusi atau kebenaran yang kau CARI. Jadi memang niat elo udah jelek sekali yaitu cari MUNGSUH ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Ini yg diomongin sdr lu yg baik hati, hehehe... Inikan omong kosong,hanya 1 anak bayi saja yang bertampang arab yang 3 lain nya tidak,dia juga pada ngentot dengan sesama orang indonesia malah perempuan2 itu ada yang jadi pelacur bayaran buat TKI laki2 indonesia ada juga yang kumpul kebongentot dimana saja sama enak nya. Sdr lu yg baik hati ini nuduh tkw jadi pelacur bayaran atau kumpul kebo, setelah tkw dianiaya oleh bangsat Arab. Ayo, terusin deh ngejilat pantat sodara lu yg baik hati itu. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:41:12 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Led Zeppelin jelas sdr gue yang baik hati; gak mungkin lah fitnah. Kau yang terus2an memfitnah. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gini deh, lu jawab aja pertanyaan gua ini. Si Led Zeppelin sodara muslim lu itu lagi ngejilat pantat Arab majikannya apa kagak dgn ngefitnah tkw? From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 10:42:38 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Ah orang arab bukan majikan gua kok. jangan asal tuduh ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe demi ngebela Arab majikannya, maka orang Islam Indonesia ga segan2 ngefitnah dan ngehina tkw bangsanya sendiri. Emang tuh, kerabat nabi orang Arab itu hrs dijilatin pantatnya sampe masuk ke dlm lobang pantatnya dan kena taik dlm lobang pantatnya. Spy dikasih pahala oleh auloh From: Led Zeppelin led.zeppelin31@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 7:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Inikan omong kosong,hanya 1 anak bayi saja yang bertampang arab yang 3 lain nya tidak,dia juga pada ngentot dengan sesama orang indonesia malah perempuan2 itu ada yang jadi pelacur bayaran buat TKI laki2 indonesia ada juga yang kumpul kebongentot dimana saja sama enak nya. --- On Mon, 5/9/11, item abu itemabu@ wrote: From: item abu itemabu@ Subject: Re: [proletar] Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 1:53 AM Hehehe... dr 2.351 TKI ada 120 yg hamil, 114 anak2 dan 74 bayi. Jika kita berasumsi ibu yg hamil tdk punya anak di dlm kapal, dan tiap ibu hanya beranak 1, berarti ada 120 + 114 + 74 = 308 tkw yg udah diembat di Saudi. Jika asumsi ditambah semua itu hasil pemerkosaan oleh orang Saudi, maka ada 308 kasus tkw diperkosa, dari 2.351 TKI yg berarti termasuk jg yg cowok. Apa ada tkw yg diperkosa tp ga hamil? Pasti banyak tuh. Dan berapa tkw + tki pria yg disiksa, dirampok dsb? Lalu, apa ada satu ekor muslim yg ngebela sesamanya? Hehehe... paling2 si suryana dan habe yg teriak2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut krn gua ngaduk2 milis borjuis ini. From: sunny ambon@ To: Undisclosed-Recipient@ Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 2:59:52 PM Subject: [proletar] Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Refleksi: Banyak TKW membawa anak dari luarnegeri, antara lain dari Arab
Re: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur
Hehehe... kalo ngerampok, malak, ngebunuh, merkosa, pedophilia, perbudakan, nyiksa cewek itu bejad apa kagak? Semua itu ada di Islam koq. From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:47:33 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Kamu lah yang GOBLOK ! Masa nyantunin anak yatim, kau bilang kebejadan ISLAM !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Tolol, Jusfiq dan jg gua, ngomongin orang Islam secara umum, ga hrs tkw. Yg diomongin itu adalah kebejadan Islam dan ketololan orang Islam yg masih percaya dgn Islam. Ga tau yg mana lu maksud dgn Jusfiq ngefitnah, yg jelas sih gua ga ngefitnah orang Islam, krn faktanya emang begitu. Tp sodara seiman lu itu ngefitnah tkw. Ngehina dan ngefitnah itu ga sama, ngehina itu ga berarti kejahatan, tp ngefitnah itu adalah kejahatan, kecuali kalo yg ngefitnah itu orang Islam dan yg nilai jg orang Islam, bukan? Jadi buat gua, orang kayak si Led Zeppelin itu adalah bajingan keparat krn dia ngefitnah tkw. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:54:59 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur TKW itu orang Islam; dan Jusfiq selalu memfitnah umat Islam. Gih marahin Jusfiq karena telah menghina TKW ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngurusin Jusfiq, tp Jusfiq ga akan ngefitnah tkw, yg ngefitnah tkw itu adalah sesama lu orang Islam. Yg nyiksa dan merkosa tkw itu adalah sesama lu orang Islam jg. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:43:28 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Semua itu pasti fakta nyata; kenapa dibilang fitnah ? Apakah karena keluarnya kata2 dari lZ jadi disebut fitnah ? Sedang dari Jusfiq yang begitu BUSUKNYA kau anggap KEBENARAN !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe si ndeboost ini sok kliatan suci dan bijak, tp ga ada satu kata jg yg nongol dr mulutnya mengenai si Led Zeppelin yg ngehina dan ngefitnah tkw. Sama jg pd kasus si tawangalun yg ngefitnah, si ndeboost itu bukannya konsisten nyebut si tawangalun sbg kriminal, dia malahan ngebela si tawangalun. Jadi ga heran deh kalo si ndeboost akan ngejilat pantat si Led Zeppelin krn ngefitnah dan ngehina tkw dlm rangka ngebela Arab bangsat tukang perkosa tkw yg gua tuding. From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 11:01:36 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Kalau pulang bawa devisa, dijemput dielu-elukan di bandara dikalungi bunga seberat entah berapa bergelar pahlawan devisa. Kalau pulang (karena gagal) jadi beban, merapat di dermaga , siapa lupa ngejek, melecehkan dan menyumpahi? Rombongan (gagal) ini ada yg pulang tinggal nama, ada yg frustasi, ada yg bawa janin, yg bawa bayi, pasrah, ikhlas dan ada yg dg segudang dendam. Itupun dipulangkan setelah desakan kiri-kanan, tidak spt kasus di Mesir atau Libya. Pesawat terbang! Kasus spt ini masih bersyukur ada yang mau meliput, namun bukan sebagai bahan lesson-learnt melainkan lebih dalam tanpa mau melihat kenapa bisa terjadi demikian. --- In proletar@ m, Abbas abas_amin08@ wrote: Ah orang arab bukan majikan gua kok. jangan asal tuduh ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe demi ngebela Arab majikannya, maka orang Islam Indonesia ga segan2 ngefitnah dan ngehina tkw bangsanya sendiri. Emang tuh, kerabat nabi orang Arab itu hrs dijilatin pantatnya sampe masuk ke dlm lobang pantatnya dan kena taik dlm lobang pantatnya. Spy dikasih pahala oleh auloh From: Led Zeppelin led.zeppelin31@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 7:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur Inikan omong kosong,hanya 1 anak bayi saja yang bertampang arab yang 3 lain nya tidak,dia juga pada ngentot dengan sesama orang indonesia malah perempuan2 itu ada yang jadi pelacur bayaran buat TKI laki2 indonesia ada juga yang kumpul kebongentot dimana saja sama enak nya. --- On Mon, 5/9/11, item abu itemabu@ wrote: From: item abu itemabu@ Subject: Re: [proletar] Kapal Pembawa TKI Bersandar di Teluk Bayur To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 1:53 AM Hehehe... dr 2.351 TKI ada 120
Re: [proletar] Re: 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London
Yg tukang ngibul itu kan orang Islam, bukan kafir. Ngapain kafir di Londonistan hrs ngibul soal air zam zam, ga ada untungnya. Sebaliknya, orang Islam itu punya segala kepentingan unt ngibul soal air zam zam. From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:49:47 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London Atau waktu analisa air, sengaja doicampur arsenik ! dan orang anti Islam, menerima penelitian ini sangat anthusias bagaikan anjang yang caliek TAIK Anget ! Langsug diumumkan bahwa air zamzam mengandung arsenik !!! Bodoh beneeer kamu ini ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Dasar goblok, berapa orang yg minum air zam zam secara rutin tiap hari selama bertahun-tahun? Arsenik di air zam zam itu pasti jg baru nongol belakangan. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:57:10 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London Yang TOLOL bin GOUBLOK tuh ya kamu. telah berabad abad kok orang minum air zam zam. Tk ada kok keluhan. Malah yang ada adalah orang sakit malah jadi sehat ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Lu ini tolol, emangnya berapa kali sih lu minum air zam zam? Paling banter lu minum beberapa liter seumur hidup lu. Itu sama dgn orang yg ngerokok beberapa batang rokok seumur hidupnya, jadi bisa dibilang ga akan ada pengaruhnya sama sekali. Tp tetap aja ngerokok itu bukan sesuatu yg sehat dan dianjurkan, demikian jg minum air zam zam yg ngandung arsenik. Ada berapa orang yg tiap hari minum air zam zam? Kayaknya ga ada tuh. Tapi tetap aja air zam zam itu ngandung bahan berbahaya dan ga sehrsnya diminum biarpun sedikit jg. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:45:49 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London ya iyalah; kanker itu gak datang sekaligus ! Trus berapa ribu orang yang ribut sakit karena setelah sekian puluh tahun minum air zam zam ? Kau bisa Buktikan gak !? Atau hanya omong kosong tanpa otak ? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Ni orang tololnya minta ampun. Kalo ada yg kena kanker krn air zam zam, kankernya itu muncul setelah sekian thn kemudian, bukannya langsung setelah minum air zam zam itu. Emangnya, orang yg kena kanker paru2 krn kebanyakan ngerokok itu langsung koit begitu dia pertama kali ngerokok? Hehehe demi ngebela Islam, maka orang Islam rela pamer kedunguannya. Adanya arsenik di air zam zam ngebuktikan bhw auloh itu tukang tipu, hehehe From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 11:07:23 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London Ni orang dasar asal kopas dan asal nyanyi. Coba sedikit mikir, sudah berapa banyak orang dan sudah berapa (ratus) tahun orang pada minum tuh air? Lalu kok sekarang ada kasus? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hihihi... ternyata air zam zam itu mengandung arsenik melebihi ambang batas. http://www.londonnet.co.uk/news/2011/may/poisonous-muslim-holy-water-sal\ e-london.html 'Poisonous' Muslim Holy Water on Sale in London - Zam Zam with arsenic and other cancer-chemicals found in shops in south and east of capital Thursday, 5th May 2011 MUSLIM Holy water sold in London is poisonous, according to health experts. The sacred water, known as Zam Zam water, comes from a well in the Muslim Holy city of Mecca, but researchers have found that it is full of dangerous chemicals including arsenic. Bottles of Zam Zam water are allowed to be brought to the UK for personal use but, partly due to the health risks, they are not meant to be sold commercially. However, an investigation by the BBC has discovered that shops in east and south London have been selling the liquid. The water is poisonous, particularly because of the high levels of arsenic, which is a carcinogen and can cause cancer, said Dr Duncan Campbell, of the Association of Public Analysts. As well as arsenic, carcinogenic nitrates have also been found in the water. The limits set in drinking water are set there for very good reason, added Campbell. Once the water gets above that limit, it's not safe. Last year the Food Standards Agency advised that, Muslims need to be aware of the health risks associated with drinking this water. If consumers find any
Re: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
Apa 9:5 dan 9:29 itu larangan ngerampok dan ngebunuh? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:51:03 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Yang sudah jelas Allah melarang merampok dan membunuh ! Kecuali kamu merobahnya jadi FITNAH ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Jadi ga ada larangan ngerampok dan ngebunuh di Quran, hehehe Lebih tepatnya auloh itu justru nyuruh unt ngerampok, malak dan ngebunuh non Islam di Quran. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:00:27 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Lengkap dan sempurnanya Al Qur_an tak perlu dipertanyakan lagi. Yang ada adalah kebodohanmu mencari cari kelemahan Qur_an. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Jadi ga ada ayatnya di Quran yg katanya lengkap dan sempurna itu, hehehe... Kapan yah nabi lu itu dpt perintah auloh yg ga ada di Quran? Kalo nabi lu itu mau ngebantai orang, apa itu perintah auloh jg, atau cuma nabi lu aja yg pengen ngebantai orang? From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:49:14 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Hehehehe juga; Muhammad ngelarang atas perintah Allah --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe... apa auloh ga ngelarang ngerampok dan ngebunuh shg hrs nabi yg ngelarang? From: ndeboost rambitesemak@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 2:35:55 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Yg ditulis adalah hadist, bukannya ayat. Btw, adakah fungsi, manfaat atau pengaruhnya bagi (iman) nT? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, sunny ambon@ wrote: Tolong sebutkan ayatnya dimana ditulis. Syukran - Original Message - From: Abbas To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 5:35 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Nabi melarang merampok; apalagi membunuh ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Buat orang Islam itu tentunya kalo ngerebut harta orang lain pake senjata, termasuk dgn ngebunuh pemilik hartanya itu, bukan dianggap sbg ngerampok, tp sbg ibadah. Jadi ga heran kalo nabi Islam yg ngerampas harta orang lain dgn kekerasan itu, termasuk jg ngerampas cewek2nya setelah ngebantai keluarga si cewek, ga dianggap sbg perampok, tp dianggap sbg nabi suci. Makanya, pejihad2 Islam kayak perompak Somalia, Al Qaeda, Taliban, gerombolan Noordin M Top, gerombolan Abu Sayaf dll itu main rampok, bunuh dan perkosa krn mereka itu sebetulnya lagi berjihad di jalan auloh. Dan mereka dianggap sbg pahlawan oleh orang Islam lainnya, hehehe From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:13:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan loh udh dijelaskan kok masih terus ngeyel !? O Jadi ada penjelasan atau tidak Nabi Muhammad tetap harus difitnah !? Ada penjelasanpun pokokmya ISLAM harus dijelekkan !? AH benar2 kamu itu TAIK anjing juga kalau begitu ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hihihi orang Islam lagi kebakaran jembut krn ga bisa bantah nabinya itu tukang ngerampok. From: ajeg ajegilelu@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 10:27:57 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Si item kok seperti lagi ceritain nasibmu sebagai tukang keruk ya plik.. --- Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Item abu menulis: Hehehe... apa nabi lu itu kerjanya cuma ngeruk duit bini kayanya? Ga ada urusan nabi itu kaya apa kagak, emangnya lu pikir orang kaya itu ga doyan ngerampok jg? Faktanya tetap aja nabi lu ngerampok. Kalo lu punya niat ngebantai dan ngerampok kafir demi auloh, itu niat jahat atau bukan? Kalo demi auloh, hehehe... tentunya ga bakalan lu sebut niat jahat, melainkan lu bilang itu ibadah. Jadi, tetap aja asal demi auloh, segala kejahatan itu jadi halal dan jadi ibadah yg dpt pahala dr
Re: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala
Lu ngoceh standar gua dng standard Islam itu beda, jadi gua bilang bhw nurut gua ngembat anak ingusan itu pedophilia dan buat Islam itu kagak. Kenapa lu kebakarang jenggot? Apa lu setuju bhw ngembat anak ingusan itu adalah pedophilia dan perbuatan bejad? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:53:10 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala Fitnah yang benar2 GOBLOKKK ! Kamu ini lagi mengatas namakan non islam ; anti Islam kan ? Kok malu2in begini sih !? Ngomong kaya kamu ini tak perlu orang berpendidikan, asal anti Islam anak TK pun bisa ngomng kaya kamu ! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Emang tuh, nurut Islam, ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn itu bukan pedophilia, tapi sedang menikmati nikmat auloh. Jadi, Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt orang2 yg doyan anak ingusan, hehehe From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:01:15 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala Standard ukuran kamu dan Islam kan berbeda !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Nyatanya yg ngehalalin pedophilia itu kan negara2 Islam spt Saudi, Iran, Yemen. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:53:31 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala Ada kali; yaitu Ajaran Taik Anjiang; buku sucinya Dawkins. Rasulnya Jusfiq! --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@ wrote: memangnya ada ajaran agama yang mengajarkan pedopil, memperkosa, merampok? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Wong wong_gendeng05@ wrote: Ajaran yang nyuruh memperkosa, pedopil, ngerampok dll, saya setuju dengan sampeyan itu ajaran bejad. Rahayu --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Kalo ajaran yg ngehalalin pedophilia, merkosa, ngerampok, ngebunuh, ngeperbudak itu bejad apa kagak? Coba tuh lu pelajari isi Quran dan hadis, lalu lu bandingin berapa banyak yg nyuruh ngebantai kafir dibandingkan dgn yg nyuruh nyantunin yatim dan orang miskin. Kalo emang betul Quran nyuruh nyantunin anak yatim dan orang miskin, kenapa nyatanya non Islam yg paling banyak ngasih duit ke anak yatim dan orang miskin? From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 10:40:07 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala Jadi yang nyuruh santunin anak yatim; orang miskin; itu yang bikin BEJAD !@? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Tolol, ajaran Islam itu ajaran bejad, jadi yg tahu Islam itu ngritik bukan hanya krn kelakuan bejad orang Islam, tp terutama krn ajaran Islam itu yg bikin orang2 itu jadi bejad. Sebelum lu ngoceh ttg agama, baiknya lu pelajari dulu apa yg ada di agama tsb. From: Wong wong_gendeng05@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 9:10:11 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala Saya rasa bukan salah orang diluar Islam, jika mereka menilai negatif terhadap Islam. Saya ingin mengingatkan akan sebuah pepatah lama bahwa pohon di kenal dari buahnya. Sampeyan tahu maksud pepatah ini?, saya jelaskan sedikit saja. Buah mangga berasal dari pohon mangga, demikian juga buah durian pastilah berasal dari pohon durian. Pohon welas asih akan menghasil buah buah belas kasihan: sabar, toleran, penunh pengertian. lah sekarang kalo buahnya berupa: terror, bom bunuh diri, pembekaran mesjid, pembakaran gereja, mudah teringgung. Berasal dari pohon apakah buah buah semacam itu? Meskipun suatu pohon berasal dari bibit unggul, tapi kalo buah yang di hasilkan adalah yang jelek, yang asam, yang banyak bopengnya, yang banyak ulatnya, pastiah pak tani akan tidak segan menebang pohon itu. Betapaun baiknya kandungan isi ajaran Islam, tapi kalo buah yang dihasilkan faktanya seperti yang kita lihat sekarang, pastilah orang akan memberi penilaian negatif
Re: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
Hehehe... kapan tuh? thn dan bulan berapa? Nih, gua kasih lihat gimana nabi lu ngerampok tanpa peringatan. Bukhari Volume 3, Book 46, Number 717: Narrated Ibn Aun: I wrote a letter to Nafi and Nafi wrote in reply to my letter that the Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day. Nafi said that Ibn 'Umar had told him the above narration and that Ibn 'Umar was in that army. Jadi nabi lu itu perampok dan pembunuh, bukan? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:56:55 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Saat Nabi Muhammad melihat banyak sekali orang Islam dizalimi; maka dbeliau mengirim surat ke Makkah ( Quraisy ); isinya al ialah minta mereka enghentikan segala penindasan terhadap orang Islam; kalau tidak maka akan dibalas kafilah2 Makkah akan dicegat oleh umat Islam. Inilah surat peringatan Nabi kepada Kaum Quraisy. Yang menyusul kedua dan ketiga. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe kapan tuh nabi nyuratin sebelum ngerampok? Coba lu sebutin kejadiannya yg mana, entar gua kasih lihat nabi lu itu ngerampok ga pake surat. From: Abbas abas_amin08@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:27:12 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Udah dijelaskan diriwayat Islam tentang Muhammad, bahwa Nabi sebelum memerintah mencegat Kafilah Quraisy, lebih dulu nulis surat sampai tiga kali. Tapi semuanya diabaikan oleh Kaum Kafir Quraisy. Jadi Nabi tidak merampok, semua sudah jelas kok. Mana ada perampok nyuratin segala ? Nabi tahu aturan kok. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 9:50:58 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan hehehe, bagus ! Jawaban elo bukannya nyambung dengan pertanyaan GUA; tapi elo balik lagi ke asal. Jadi tujuanmu hanya ingin FITNAH kan !? Dan tak boleh dihalangi karena memang ingin mitnah. Jadi apapun alasan yang diajukan orang lain kau tak terima. Jadi ini PENGAKUAN kamu ? Bahwa kamu TUKANG FITNAH !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Emang nabi lu itu kan kerjanya ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Coba lu baca tuh kisah ngerampok di Naklakh, apa itu bukan ngerampok dan ngebunuh? Biarpun nabi lu ga ikut serta dlm ngerampok dan ngebunuh, nabi lu itu yg nyuruh orang ngerampok dan nabi lu nerima hasil rampokannya. Ini baru satu kasus, lu tau berapa kali nabi lu itu ngirim ekspedisi atau ikut serta dlm ekspedisi ngerampok? From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:39:38 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Jadi kamu tetap tak terima alasan apapun; karena INGIN memfitnah ISLAM ? Begitu kan mau elo? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Alamak, nabi lu itu kerjanya ngerampok dan ngebunuh. From: Abbas abas_amin08@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 10:41:26 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Nabi Muhammad ngelarang merampok, apalagi membunuh --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Led Zeppelin led.zeppelin31@ wrote: Buat orang Islam itu tentunya kalo ngerebut harta orang lain pake senjata, termasuk dgn ngebunuh pemilik hartanya itu, bukan dianggap sbg ngerampok, tp sbg ibadah.?' Badut bodoh iidak ada itu lihat eropa/kresten selama ratusan tahun kerja nya cuma merampok saja dinegara lain saat ini masih ada kejadian2 tersebut. Jadi ga heran kalo nabi Islam yg ngerampas harta orang lain dgn kekerasan itu, termasuk jg ngerampas cewek2nya setelah ngebantai keluarga si cewek, ga dianggap sbg perampok, tp dianggap sbg nabi suci.? Ahh inikan cerita2 eropah jaman doeloe yang anda gunakan ditempat yang salah. Makanya, pejihad2 Islam kayak perompak Somalia, Al Qaeda, Taliban, gerombolan Noordin M Top, gerombolan Abu Sayaf dll itu
[proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Lu ngoceh standar gua dng standard Islam itu beda, jadi gua bilang bhw nurut gua ngembat anak ingusan itu pedophilia dan buat Islam itu kagak. Kenapa lu kebakarang jenggot? ya tentu aja standarnya gw ama elu memang berbeda. lu standarnya sama kayak anjing, tega ngencuk anak sendiri. in fact, mungkin standar lu lebih rendah darpadai anjing,karena anjing nggak piara cabo seperti elu piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibu elu sendiri. Apa lu setuju bhw ngembat anak ingusan itu adalah pedophilia dan perbuatan bejad? iya dong... phedopil, ngencuk anak sendiri sampe bunting, ngencuk bini orang sampe bunting, piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibunya sendir seperti tuhan jesus, itu semuanya adalah perbuatan bejat kan?! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami
Jadi, Quran itu ga detil? Hehehe kacihan sekali lu ini. 006.114 YUSUFALI: Say: Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail. They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt. 6:114. Maka patutkah aku mencari hakim selain daripada Allah, padahal Dialah yang telah menurunkan kitab (Al-Qur'an) kepadamu dengan terperinci? Orang-orang yang telah Kami datangkan kitab kepada mereka, mereka mengetahui bahwa Al-Qur'an itu diturunkan dari Tuhanmu dengan sebenarnya. Maka janganlah kamu sekali-kali termasuk orang yang ragu-ragu. Bentar lagi lu akan diketawain Jusfiq krn lagi diajarin oleh al ustadz. From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 11:12:10 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami Lengkap dan sempurna OK ! Siapa yang mengatakan DETIL !? Karanganmu ya ? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Ga ada larangan ngembat mayat koq di Quran, jadi si sheik itu ga salah. Kan Quran itu lengkap, detil dan sempurna. From: PAREWA parewa70@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 6:44:09 PM Subject: Re: [proletar] Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami Nah tentulah ini sebuah fitnah, dan kalau benar ada org yg mengaku syech atau nama apapun maka jelas di juga tukang fitnah dan termasuk kedalam kategori 'ulama fasik' yaitu ulama yg menamakan dirinya ulama atau disebut oleh orang tetapi jahat. Tahukah anda hukuman yg akan diterima oleh 'ulama semacam itu'? Jauh lebih berat dibandingkan org biasa. Nah bacalah al quran. Mengentoti mayat bertentangan dengan al quran dan akal. Dua hal yang diakui menjadi salah satu sumber hukum islam. Org2 Muslim tahu mengentoti mayat bertentangan dengan hukum islam. Jadi marilah juga kita baca apa yg ada dalam text bible, yg walau sudah byk dihapus2, atau dihaluskan bunyi terjemahannya dalam bhsa indonesia, tetaplah berguna untuk dipahami dan memahami kenapa org2 seperti item dan anda begini busuk fikirannya thd islam. --- Pada Kam, 12/5/11, sunny ambon@... menulis: Dari: sunny ambon@... Judul: Re: [proletar] Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 12 Mei, 2011, 6:29 PM Tembakan penghormatan terakhir sebagai pemberian selamat jalan kepada sang isteri nan tercinta ke dunia seberang. Di Australia ada sejenis kodok yang disebut cane toad. Kodok ini rupanya jago sikat seperti Mr Necrophilia. Saya pernah lihat kodok betina yang digiling mobil, kepalanya sudah tidak ada, tetapi masih disikat oleh sang jantan. - Original Message - From: item abu To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:42 PM Subject: [proletar] Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami Halal ngembat mayat, kata ahli Islam di bawah ini. Buat yg ga tau, sheik itu artinya ahli Islam, tentunya udah belajar Islam dgn baik dan ilmu Islamnya sangat tinggi. Jadi fatwanya itu tentunya didasari dgn ilmu Islam yg tinggi, bukan sembarangan dikeluarkan. Tentunya cuma Islam aja yg bisa menghasilkan keputusan yg brilyan ini, membuktikan bhw Islam itu adalah agama yg benar, benar2 sinting dan konyol, hehehe http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.com/2011/05/fatwa-necrophilia-now-halal-says-sheikh.html l Fatwa: Necrophilia Now Halal Says Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami Meet Sheikh Abdelbari Zamzami who just made necrophilia halal. Don't you wish you lived under sharia law? More here: Zemzami justifies his ruling by means of analogy: Since a good Muslim couple will meet again in Heaven, and since death does not alter the marital contract (in his opinion) it is not a hindrance to the husband’s desire to have sexual intercourse with the corpse of his (freshly) deceased wife Posted by Blazing Cat Fur at 6:40 AM | 10 comments | link to this post | send email | [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings
Re: [proletar] Re: Mana itu item abu !
Lu ini tolol amat sih, ada banyak prestasi kafir, misalnya bikin penemuan obat, bikin komputer dll. Apa yg bisa dilbuat oleh orang Islam selain ngebantai, ngerampok, merkosa dan ngembat anak ingusan? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:57:51 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Mana itu item abu ! Nah sekarang sebutkan prestasi manusia kafir untuk kepentingan manusia !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Buset, emangnya gua online terus. From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@... To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:29:43 AM Subject: [proletar] Mana itu item abu ! Itemabu, karena sesuatu hal, aku balik lagi ke WARNET. Mumpung aku onlone, ayo mana jawabanmu !? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Bls: [proletar] Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,
Kalau komputernya udah baik, nah segeralah perbaiki otak anda --- Pada Kam, 12/5/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Judul: [proletar] Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi, Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 12 Mei, 2011, 7:06 PM Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam
Hehehe... gua salah baca, krn emang tulisan2 dr sebagian besar orang2 Islam itu ga gua baca, paling2 cuma sekilas gua liat doang. Jadi, apa yg lu mau tanya? Soal nabi lu ngerampok? From: rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:41:53 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Ogah, ngapain gua baca sampah. hehehe... takut ya? malu ya? itu kan tulisan elu sendiri, kok bisa2nya tulisan elu sendiri dikatakan sampah? ini kan kebiasaan orang bego, belum baca apa2 tapi udah mengambil kesimpulan sendiri dengan mengatakan tulisan sampah. padahal, elu sendiri punya mental anjing yang demen baca tulisan sampah di faithfreedom. baca dong tulisan sampah karya elu sendiri. gw cuman mau minta penjelasan tentang tulisan ini, apakah lu 'sharing everything' dengan si anjing tua atau elu cuman kebetulan lagi ngeloco bareng sambi menjilati pantat masing2 seperti layaknya anjing tua dan anjing sipit? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 kalo auloh bisa bersumpah demi apa aja nunjukin bhw dia maha kuasa, tukang jual obat jg maha kuasa krn bisa ngibul apa aja.\ Sebetulnya kasihan jg gua ngeliat orang Islam, krn punya auloh yg bersumpah demi apa aja. Sumpah demi buah tin, demi kota, demi pena, demi bintang yg terbenam, demi fajar yg kesiangan dll. Lebih parah lagi, sumpah demi fajar kesiangan itu apa artinya? Ga ada fajar yg kesiangan, berarti auloh itu bersumpah demi barang fiktif. Alias ngibul tulen. From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:06:25 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe gua sih kalo mau jg bisa ngibul apa aja, bisa sumpah demi apa aja kayak auloh. Cuma gua aja yg enggan melakukan hal2 spt itu, krn merendahkan derajat gua sendiri. hehehe coba deh lu jangan ngacir, jangan oot, jangan ngibul dan kasih penjelasan tentang tulisan ini. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas ..(rezameutia memfitnah item abu lagi..)
Argumen rezameutia yang memang gila itu ya fitnah seperti dibawah ini.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Lu ngoceh standar gua dng standard Islam itu beda, jadi gua bilang bhw nurut gua ngembat anak ingusan itu pedophilia dan buat Islam itu kagak. Kenapa lu kebakarang jenggot? ya tentu aja standarnya gw ama elu memang berbeda. lu standarnya sama kayak anjing, tega ngencuk anak sendiri. in fact, mungkin standar lu lebih rendah darpadai anjing,karena anjing nggak piara cabo seperti elu piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibu elu sendiri. Apa lu setuju bhw ngembat anak ingusan itu adalah pedophilia dan perbuatan bejad? iya dong... phedopil, ngencuk anak sendiri sampe bunting, ngencuk bini orang sampe bunting, piara cabo yang namanya sama dengan nama ibunya sendir seperti tuhan jesus, itu semuanya adalah perbuatan bejat kan?! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam
tentu saj lu ga mau baca, karena takut membaca firman tuhan. Ex: Yesaya36:12 dan 2 raja-raja 18:27 Tetapi juru minuman agung berkata: Adakah tuanku mengutus aku untuk mengucapkan perkataan-perkataan ini hanya kepada tuanmu dan kepadamu saja? Bukankah juga kepada orang-orang yang duduk di atas tembok, yang memakan tahinya dan meminum air kencingnya bersama-sama dengan kamu? Tetapi juru minuman agung berkata: Adakah tuanku mengutus aku untuk mengucapkan perkataan-perkataan ini hanya kepada tuanmu dan kepadamu saja? Bukankah juga kepada orang-orang yang duduk di atas tembok, yang memakan tahinya dan meminum air kencingnya bersama-sama dengan kamu? --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, item abu item...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: item abu item...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 5:19 PM Hehehe... gua salah baca, krn emang tulisan2 dr sebagian besar orang2 Islam itu ga gua baca, paling2 cuma sekilas gua liat doang. Jadi, apa yg lu mau tanya? Soal nabi lu ngerampok? From: rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:41:53 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Ogah, ngapain gua baca sampah. hehehe... takut ya? malu ya? itu kan tulisan elu sendiri, kok bisa2nya tulisan elu sendiri dikatakan sampah? ini kan kebiasaan orang bego, belum baca apa2 tapi udah mengambil kesimpulan sendiri dengan mengatakan tulisan sampah. padahal, elu sendiri punya mental anjing yang demen baca tulisan sampah di faithfreedom. baca dong tulisan sampah karya elu sendiri. gw cuman mau minta penjelasan tentang tulisan ini, apakah lu 'sharing everything' dengan si anjing tua atau elu cuman kebetulan lagi ngeloco bareng sambi menjilati pantat masing2 seperti layaknya anjing tua dan anjing sipit? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 kalo auloh bisa bersumpah demi apa aja nunjukin bhw dia maha kuasa, tukang jual obat jg maha kuasa krn bisa ngibul apa aja.\ Sebetulnya kasihan jg gua ngeliat orang Islam, krn punya auloh yg bersumpah demi apa aja. Sumpah demi buah tin, demi kota, demi pena, demi bintang yg terbenam, demi fajar yg kesiangan dll. Lebih parah lagi, sumpah demi fajar kesiangan itu apa artinya? Ga ada fajar yg kesiangan, berarti auloh itu bersumpah demi barang fiktif. Alias ngibul tulen. From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:06:25 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: tentang agama atau takhyul...Bintang Terbenam --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe gua sih kalo mau jg bisa ngibul apa aja, bisa sumpah demi apa aja kayak auloh. Cuma gua aja yg enggan melakukan hal2 spt itu, krn merendahkan derajat gua sendiri. hehehe coba deh lu jangan ngacir, jangan oot, jangan ngibul dan kasih penjelasan tentang tulisan ini. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314958 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
Hehehe kalo anak buahnya ngebunuh, apa itu ga berarti nabi lu itu adalah pembunuh? Spy lu tau aja, di perang Uhud, nabi lu itu ngebunuh orang dgn tangannya sendiri. Kayaknya lu kagak tau soal ini, hehehe... Pampasan perang? Hehehe nyerang orang lagi ngangon tanpa peringatan, orangnya dibunuh, hartanya diambil dan ceweknya diembat. Pampasan perang? Hehehe... Emang tuh, nyerang non Islam itu selalu dianggap perang demi auloh krn emang auloh nyuruh. Tp kalo ngembat anak ingusan, itu bukan pedophilia, tp nikmat auloh. From: rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:46:32 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad di perang badar? dari semua perang badar, uhud, khandaq, nabi muhammad tidak pernah membunuh orang. sebutin siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dalam perang2 tersebut? pampasan perang dan ngerampok beda dong. bego banget sih lu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe... contohnya di perang Badr yg terbesar, nabi lu itu kan ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Lu tau ga perang Badr yg terbesar? From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:10:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan sebutin dong, siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dan kapan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat.
PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Jadi, saya ulang: otak PAREWA PAREWA itu jelas sudah rusak... Dia bukan manusia normal lagi. Dia sudah gila. Saya rentang PAREWA PAREWA itu adalah korban kedunguan orang tuanya yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing dan yang tidak memberikan pendidikan yang memadai untuk dia: dia juga dungu kayak anjing seperti mereka. Dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya buat berfikir, dia tidak dilatih untuk berfikir kritis. Dia tidak dilatih untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Dia dilatih buat biasa bersikap seperti anjing budug lapar dihadapan taik angat: diajar untuk melahap apa saja yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Makanya, dia sama-sama tidak punya harga diri seperti orang tuanya yang dungu kayak anjing itu dan sama-sama bersedia menjadi korban kibulan orang Arab primitif. Lalu, berkat kemajuan teknologi, dia punya akses ke internet dan sempat melihat kenyataan lain yang pahit lagi menyilaukan yang ditunjukkan orang lain di internet: ajaran agama Islam yang dianutnya dan yang dikiranya berdasarkan kebenaran dan berdasarkan wahyu dari Allah itu ternyata cuman berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan hasil khayalan orang Arab primitif. Karena dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya untuk berfikir dan untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dia yakini selama ini maka dia bingung dihadapan kenyataan itu: groggy. Dia jadi gila. Gila dan lantas kalap. Lalu dia jadi tukang fitnah dan penyebar dusta. Seperti halnya hampir semua peserta Islam yang hadir disini yang seperti dia juga tidak terlatih untuk memakai otak mereka buat berfikir, untuk berfikir secara kritis. Untuk kembali menemukan keseimbangan, hanya psikiater yang bisa menolongnya. Tapi PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Mana itu item abu !
1 korintus 5:7 Buanglah ragi yang lama itu, supaya kamu menjadi adonan yang baru, sebab kamu memang tidak beragi. Sebab anak domba Paskah kita juga telah disembelih, yaitu Kristus. --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, item abu item...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: item abu item...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Mana itu item abu ! Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 5:12 PM Lu ini tolol amat sih, ada banyak prestasi kafir, misalnya bikin penemuan obat, bikin komputer dll. Apa yg bisa dilbuat oleh orang Islam selain ngebantai, ngerampok, merkosa dan ngembat anak ingusan? From: Abbas abas_ami...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:57:51 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Mana itu item abu ! Nah sekarang sebutkan prestasi manusia kafir untuk kepentingan manusia !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Buset, emangnya gua online terus. From: Abbas Amin abas_amin08@... To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:29:43 AM Subject: [proletar] Mana itu item abu ! Itemabu, karena sesuatu hal, aku balik lagi ke WARNET. Mumpung aku onlone, ayo mana jawabanmu !? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di Kepala
Hehehe ada yg cerita ke gua, ada ustad ceramah soal persodaraan di Islam,
di
mana orang2 Islam rela ngasih hartanya ke sesama Islam, termasuk jg ngasih
bininya. Udah tentu orang2 Islam itu pd manggut2 setuju, termasuk jg cewek2nya.
Ini nunjukin gimana orang Islam itu bisa berpikir, hehehe
From: rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:52:30 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada di
Kepala
udah nggak bisa diskusi lagi, langsung oot dan ngayal.
pendidikan agama kristen yang penuh dogma sehingga nggak heran cara berpikirnya
orang kristen seperti zombie, demen ngayal seperti orang retarded, seperti
tipikal orang kristen bego.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote:
Hehehe... auloh ngasih perintah, lalu orang islam mikir koq perintah auloh
itu
bejad.
Maka auloh ngoceh bisa jadi ente mikir perintah ane itu bejad, tp ente itu
dungu2 kayak kebo, ga tau perintah ane ini perintah yg baik, ente itu hrsnya
jadi zombie idiot aja, kalo disuruh2 jangan mikir, tp lakukan aja, krn ane
ini
maha tahu sedangkan ente ini maha goblok
Maka, jadilah orang Islam sbg zombie idiot, krn auloh itu maha kuasa, cukup
auloh bilang Quran itu buat orang mikir, maka zombie idiot ini pada
berpendapat
bhw mereka itu udah mikir.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@...
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 11:07:31 AM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang Ada
di
Kepala
hehehe..., si anjing sipit oot dan muter2 kayak anjing ngejar ekornya.
gw kan udah tulis tuh dibawah nama suratnya sekalian. disitu kan jelas
dituls
('boleh jadi kamu...). kalo lu baca surat ini dan punya pengertian lain,
silahkan ditulis apa pengertian lu tentang surat ini.
masalahnya kristen bego otaknya nggak terbiasa dipake mikir sih.
gw kan udah bilang, lu baca quran musti dipake otak nya karena al quran untuk
orang2 yang berpikir. beda dengan alkitab yang berisi tulisan cabul seperti
kitab porno.
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe lu baca bagian yg gua hapus dan gua ganti dgn ... , di situ
jelas
koq
auloh ngasih perintah, jadi yg dianggap bejad itu adalah perintah auloh,
bukan
musibah.
Gua kelupaan ngasih ayat lengkapnya, 2:216.
From: rezameutia rezameutia@
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 12:49:48 PM
Subject: [proletar] Re: Kebengisan atas Nama Islam itu Bermula dari yang
Ada
di
Kepala
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote:
Hehehe... Islam itu adalah agama buat zombie idiot, auloh sendiri yg
ngelarang
orang Islam buat mikir.
216. ... Boleh jadi kamu membenci sesuatu, padahal ia amat baik bagimu,
dan
boleh jadi (pula) kamu menyukai sesuatu, padahal ia amat buruk bagimu;
Allah
mengetahui, sedang kamu tidak mengetahui.
Kalo orang bisa mikir, dia akan bertanya koq orang bisa ngebenci perintah
auloh.
Artinya perintah auloh itu bisa merupakan perintah bejad di pandangan
orang
pada
umumnya.
hmmm...,
lu tinggal baca ayat sederhana di al baqarah kayak gini aja nggak ngerti?
coba deh lu pake otak lu, ayat ini kan artinya sederhana sekali, bahwa
dalam
setiap musibah pasti ada hikmahnya. manusia nggak suka dan membenci setiap
musibah yang menimpanya, tapi dibalik musibah itu pasti ada kebaikannya
(hikmahnya). ngerti nggak?!
kalo elu masih nggak ngerti juga, gw kasih contoh kongkritnya bapak lu
mati.
kematian itu kan merupakan suatu musibah, tapi dibalik musibah itu
merupakan
suatu hikmah karena bapak lu udah nggak pusing dan sedih lagi punya anak
yang
'lahirnya kesasar' sehingga begonya kelewatan seperti elu.
elu dari sejak lahir udah karena kesasar.
seharusnya kan elu keluarnya dari pantat jadinya taik, tapi elu kesasar ke
memek
sehingga keluarnya jadi elu dah. makanya nggak heran kalo kepala lu isinya
taik
dan begonya kelewatan.
iya kan?!
hehehe
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[proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan (rezameutia yang memng gila..)
rezameutia yang memang gila itutentu tidak bisa membedakan antara perampokan dan pampasan perang... Dia juga bilangn Afrika Selatan itu negeir bule kok.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe kalo anak buahnya ngebunuh, apa itu ga berarti nabi lu itu adalah pembunuh? Spy lu tau aja, di perang Uhud, nabi lu itu ngebunuh orang dgn tangannya sendiri. Kayaknya lu kagak tau soal ini, hehehe... Pampasan perang? Hehehe nyerang orang lagi ngangon tanpa peringatan, orangnya dibunuh, hartanya diambil dan ceweknya diembat. Pampasan perang? Hehehe... Emang tuh, nyerang non Islam itu selalu dianggap perang demi auloh krn emang auloh nyuruh. Tp kalo ngembat anak ingusan, itu bukan pedophilia, tp nikmat auloh. From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:46:32 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad di perang badar? dari semua perang badar, uhud, khandaq, nabi muhammad tidak pernah membunuh orang. sebutin siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dalam perang2 tersebut? pampasan perang dan ngerampok beda dong. bego banget sih lu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Hehehe... contohnya di perang Badr yg terbesar, nabi lu itu kan ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Lu tau ga perang Badr yg terbesar? From: rezameutia rezameutia@ To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:10:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan sebutin dong, siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dan kapan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] cara berpikir dng metacognition...
Metacognition (knowing about knowing): 1.Saya Atheist akibat kesimpulan saya thd analisis ttg penjelasan tuhan menggunakan methode logic dan ilmiah/scientific... 2. Jika saya melakukan analisis dan kesimpulan ttg tuhan tidak menggunakan methodologi logic dan ilmiah/scientific (misal menggunakan filsafat mantiq), maka saya akan menjadi believer Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] agnostic dan atheist...
Agnostic adalah atheist dalam bentuk negative, karena tidak membuat kesimpulan dari logika ;-) Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Bls: [proletar] PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat.
Anda jelas ngga sanggup membantah apa yg saya katakan, lalu menulis seenak jidat. --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: Jusfiq kesayangan.al...@gmail.com Judul: [proletar] PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 5:23 PM PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Jadi, saya ulang: otak PAREWA PAREWA itu jelas sudah rusak... Dia bukan manusia normal lagi. Dia sudah gila. Saya rentang PAREWA PAREWA itu adalah korban kedunguan orang tuanya yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing dan yang tidak memberikan pendidikan yang memadai untuk dia: dia juga dungu kayak anjing seperti mereka. Dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya buat berfikir, dia tidak dilatih untuk berfikir kritis. Dia tidak dilatih untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Dia dilatih buat biasa bersikap seperti anjing budug lapar dihadapan taik angat: diajar untuk melahap apa saja yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Makanya, dia sama-sama tidak punya harga diri seperti orang tuanya yang dungu kayak anjing itu dan sama-sama bersedia menjadi korban kibulan orang Arab primitif. Lalu, berkat kemajuan teknologi, dia punya akses ke internet dan sempat melihat kenyataan lain yang pahit lagi menyilaukan yang ditunjukkan orang lain di internet: ajaran agama Islam yang dianutnya dan yang dikiranya berdasarkan kebenaran dan berdasarkan wahyu dari Allah itu ternyata cuman berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan hasil khayalan orang Arab primitif. Karena dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya untuk berfikir dan untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dia yakini selama ini maka dia bingung dihadapan kenyataan itu: groggy. Dia jadi gila. Gila dan lantas kalap. Lalu dia jadi tukang fitnah dan penyebar dusta. Seperti halnya hampir semua peserta Islam yang hadir disini yang seperti dia juga tidak terlatih untuk memakai otak mereka buat berfikir, untuk berfikir secara kritis. Untuk kembali menemukan keseimbangan, hanya psikiater yang bisa menolongnya. Tapi PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan
ini pasti yg lu maksud Tem: Zakharia 14:2 Aku (yesus) akan mengumpulkan segala bangsa untuk memerangi Yerusalem; kota itu akan direbut, rumah-rumah akan dirampoki dan perempuan-perempuan akan dientotin. Maka sekarang bunuhlah semua laki-laki di antara anak-anak mereka, dan juga semua perempuan yang pernah bersetubuh dengan laki-laki haruslah kamu bunuh. Tetapi semua orang muda di antara perempuan yang belum pernah bersetubuh dengan laki-laki haruslah kamu biarkan hidup bagimu. (Bilangan 31:17-18). --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, item abu item...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: item abu item...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 5:22 PM Hehehe kalo anak buahnya ngebunuh, apa itu ga berarti nabi lu itu adalah pembunuh? Spy lu tau aja, di perang Uhud, nabi lu itu ngebunuh orang dgn tangannya sendiri. Kayaknya lu kagak tau soal ini, hehehe... Pampasan perang? Hehehe nyerang orang lagi ngangon tanpa peringatan, orangnya dibunuh, hartanya diambil dan ceweknya diembat. Pampasan perang? Hehehe... Emang tuh, nyerang non Islam itu selalu dianggap perang demi auloh krn emang auloh nyuruh. Tp kalo ngembat anak ingusan, itu bukan pedophilia, tp nikmat auloh. From: rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 3:46:32 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad di perang badar? dari semua perang badar, uhud, khandaq, nabi muhammad tidak pernah membunuh orang. sebutin siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dalam perang2 tersebut? pampasan perang dan ngerampok beda dong. bego banget sih lu.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe... contohnya di perang Badr yg terbesar, nabi lu itu kan ngerampok dan ngebunuh. Lu tau ga perang Badr yg terbesar? From: rezameutia rezameutia@... To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 12:10:30 PM Subject: [proletar] Re: Kondisi ABK makin Memprihatinkan sebutin dong, siapa yang dibunuh nabi muhammad dan kapan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu itemabu@ wrote: Gua ga ngefitnah, krn nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh itu adalah fakta yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. Yg ngefitnah itu adalah lu, krn lu bilang nabi lu itu ga ngerampok dan ngebunuh. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Bls: [proletar] pantesab koruptor makin merajalela.
betul sekali --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, Abbas Amin abas_ami...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Abbas Amin abas_ami...@yahoo.com Judul: [proletar] pantesab koruptor makin merajalela. Kepada: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 11:21 AM Gereja sudah melarang hukuman berat kok. kata Jusfiq. Jadi dengan hukuman berat saja maling tak takut ! Apalagi tanpa hukuman berat ! Hehehehe si Jusfiq, menjilat pantat PAUS agar pengikutnya mendukung kezaliman dia. Dimana yang didukungpun sebenarnya tak masuk akal sehat sama sekali; sebab sepertinya membiarkan KORUPTOR dan penyelewengan merajalela. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Ngga beda dgn omongan jusfiq dan item
7:2 Pusarmu seperti cawan yang bulat, yang tak kekurangan anggur campur. Perutmu timbunan gandum, berpagar bunga-bunga bakung. 7:3 Seperti dua anak rusa buah dadamu, seperti anak kembar kijang. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Rupanya Dari sini ide si item memfitnah nabi
Perintah ini sungguh kejam, biadab lagi sadis Bunuh orang kafir dan musyrik !! (Ulangan 13:6-9) Cungkil mata yang menyesatkan orang untuk berbuat dosa (Matius 5:-29) Potong kaki dan tangan orang yang menyesatkan ke arah dosa (Matius l8:8-9) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Bolehkah menganiaya-menzalimi manusia?
Nah lu bandingan deh dg sebagian firman ini (jgn2 semua fitnah dan ocehan soal kekejaman ajaran islam itu dari sini juga) Bunuh orang kafir dan musyrik !! (Ulangan 13:6-9) Cungkil mata yang menyesatkan orang untuk berbuat dosa (Matius 5:-29) Potong kaki dan tangan orang yang menyesatkan ke arah dosa (Matius l8:8-9) --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, item abu item...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: item abu item...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [proletar] Bolehkah menganiaya-menzalimi manusia? Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 6:06 AM Hehehe... jadi lu bilang ngerampok, merkosa dan ngebantai kafir itu adalah menganiaya? Kalo gitu, nabi lu itu tukang menganiaya, hehehe Dan auloh lu itu nyuruh menganiaya. From: PAREWA parew...@yahoo.co.id To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 6:08:22 PM Subject: [proletar] Bolehkah menganiaya-menzalimi manusia? Hadist Nabi: “Jagalah dirimu dari doa orang yang dianiaya, meskipun orang itu kafir. Karena doa orang yang dianiaya itu tidak terhalang” “Jagalah dirimu dari doa orang-orang yang dianiaya, karena doa orang yang dianiaya itu seperti bunga yang terus naik kelangit” Jadi tdklah benar fitnah golongan pemfitnah di milis ini. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] mgk dr sini si item dpt ide memfitnah.
Tetapi dari kota-kota bangsa-bangsa yang didirikan Tuhan, Allahmu,kepadamu menjadi milik pusakamu, janganlah kau biarkan hidup apapun yang bernafas, melainkan harus kau tumpas sama sekali, (Ulangan 20:16-17). (ini asli dari tuhan lo tem, tak pake diplintir2) Maka sekarang bunuhlah semua laki-laki di antara anak-anak mereka, dan juga semua perempuan yang pernah bersetubuh dengan laki-laki haruslah kamu bunuh. Tetapi semua orang muda di antara perempuan yang belum pernah bersetubuh dengan laki-laki haruslah kamu biarkan hidup bagimu. (Bilangan 31:17-18). Dalam penaklukan Yerikho, maka semua manusia dan hewan ternak ditumpas habis, tak satupun yang dibiarkan hidup. Mereka menumpas dengan mata pedang segala sesuatu yang di dalam kota itu, baik laki-laki maupun perempuan, baik tua maupun muda, sampai kepada lembu, domba dan keledai. (Yosua 6:21). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] France24: Tahrir Square masses rally for unity, order
http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-egypt-thousands-rally-unity-law-tahrir-square-coptic-christian-salafist-islam Tahrir Square masses rally for unity, order By News Wires the 13/05/2011 - 13:01 Thousands rallied in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday, waving flags, calling for national unity and demanding the law be enforced after last Saturday's attacks on two Coptic churches resulted in deadly sectarian clashes. AFP - Thousands of people rallied in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday calling for unity and the rule of law to be enforced after attacks on churches, state television reported. Footage aired from the iconic square, the epicentre of protests that overthrew president Hosni Mubarak in February, showed thousands of protesters waving flags and banners in support of national unity. Fifteen people were killed in clashes on Saturday after Muslims surrounded a church in Cairo demanding the handover of a woman they said Christians had detained after she converted to Islam and married a Muslim. The Muslims also set fire to a second church. The unrest threatened to drive Egypt's often tense religious tensions to the brink, prompting the military to arrest more than 200 people it said will swiftly be tried. Activists had called for a mass show of unity on Friday, which has become a traditional day of protest after the weekly Muslim prayers at noon. The protesters gathered in the square ahead of the prayers also waved Palestinian flags. Activists have called for a march to neighbouring Gaza at the weekend, coinciding with the anniversary of Israel's establishment, to protest the Israeli occupation. The interior ministry has urged them to cancel the march. The young Egyptian woman whose complicated love life led to last weekend's clashes was arrested on Thursday and charged with marrying more than one husband, a judicial source said. Abeer Talaat Fakhry, 26, was living with her Christian husband in the southern city of Assiut when she ran away from home, converted to Islam and informally married Muslim Yassin Thabet. Copts account for up to 10 percent of the country's 80 million people. They complain of discrimination, and have been the targets of fairly regular sectarian attacks. The most recent violence has been blamed on a hardline Islamist sect, the Salafists, who have regularly staged protests demanding the church release women they believe converted to Islam. The sect was mostly apolitical under Mubarak, but since February it has grown more assertive and its leaders say they will form parties to contest a parliamentary election in September. Source URL: http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-egypt-thousands-rally-unity-law-tahrir-square-coptic-christian-salafist-islam Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Bls: [proletar] PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat.
Jadi PAREWA PAREWA yang berogtak babi itu tidak membantah apa yang saya katakan. Karena yang saya katakan adalah kebenaran. Lalu, sebagaimana lazimnya, dia cuap-cuap kayak nonok bebek yang baru dientotin monyet bonobo sekedar unjuk isi otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA parewa70@... wrote: Anda jelas ngga sanggup membantah apa yg saya katakan, lalu menulis seenak jidat. --- Pada Jum, 13/5/11, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... menulis: Dari: Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... Judul: [proletar] PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 13 Mei, 2011, 5:23 PM Â PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. Jadi, saya ulang: otak PAREWA PAREWA itu jelas sudah rusak... Dia bukan manusia normal lagi. Dia sudah gila. Saya rentang PAREWA PAREWA itu adalah korban kedunguan orang tuanya yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing dan yang tidak memberikan pendidikan yang memadai untuk dia: dia juga dungu kayak anjing seperti mereka. Dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya buat berfikir, dia tidak dilatih untuk berfikir kritis. Dia tidak dilatih untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Dia dilatih buat biasa bersikap seperti anjing budug lapar dihadapan taik angat: diajar untuk melahap apa saja yang dikatakan orang sekelilingnya. Makanya, dia sama-sama tidak punya harga diri seperti orang tuanya yang dungu kayak anjing itu dan sama-sama bersedia menjadi korban kibulan orang Arab primitif. Lalu, berkat kemajuan teknologi, dia punya akses ke internet dan sempat melihat kenyataan lain yang pahit lagi menyilaukan yang ditunjukkan orang lain di internet: ajaran agama Islam yang dianutnya dan yang dikiranya berdasarkan kebenaran dan berdasarkan wahyu dari Allah itu ternyata cuman berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan hasil khayalan orang Arab primitif. Karena dia tidak dilatih untuk memakai otaknya untuk berfikir dan untuk mempertanyakan apa yang dia yakini selama ini maka dia bingung dihadapan kenyataan itu: groggy. Dia jadi gila. Gila dan lantas kalap. Lalu dia jadi tukang fitnah dan penyebar dusta. Seperti halnya hampir semua peserta Islam yang hadir disini yang seperti dia juga tidak terlatih untuk memakai otak mereka buat berfikir, untuk berfikir secara kritis. Untuk kembali menemukan keseimbangan, hanya psikiater yang bisa menolongnya. Tapi PAREWA PAREWA takut berobat. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Omong kosogn apa lagi yang akan disampaikan Abbas Amin besok atau lusa?
Omong kosong apa lagi yang akan disampaikan Abbas Amin yang dungu kayak babi itu besok atau lusa? Kasihan saya melihat orang Islam yang cuma bisa kaing-kaing kayak anjing kejept ekornya menghadapi orang kafir seperti item abu - dan buka nhanya item abu. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera::Bahrain targets Shia religious sites
Middle East Bahrain targets Shia religious sites Part three in our exclusive series on Bahrain reveals the government destroyed Shia mosques and religious institutions. Last Modified: 13 May 2011 11:59 The Bahraini government has destroyed a number of mosques in continuation of its aggressive crackdown on pro-democracy protesters, a special Al Jazeera investigation reveals. At least 28 mosques and Shia religious institutions have been destroyed in the Gulf state since the crackdown on Shia-led protests began in Mid-March, opposition group, Al Wefaq, told Al Jazeera's Charles Stratford. The Justice Ministry, however, said it was tearing down the mosques because they were not licenced. Ordinary Bahraini's were hesitant to speak to our correspondent; they were fearful of government informers who they said were everywhere. It is a war against identity, one man told our correspondent. This Sunni government of Bahrain is fighting the Shia, destroying their places of worship and holy places. Adel Al-Moawda, deputy Chairman of the Bahraini Parliament, denied the report that mosques were being destroyed. The mosques that have been demolished, most of them are not mosques, Al-Moawda told Al Jazeera. There were only expansions of mosques in some private territories. Very few numbers of mosques, which are illegally built, have been demolished. He said Sunni mosques were also among these few that had been demolished. What is happening in Bahrain now ... everybody is following the law and order that is all, he added. Strong sense of fear The sense of fear amongst the people that you are trying to talk to is really quite incredible, Stratford said. He said Al Jazeera found it very difficult to find Sunni voices since the crackdown began in mid-March. A lot of the sympathisers who were pushing for reform from the Sunni side have gone into hiding, seemingly very intimidated by the crackdown, our correspondent added. It is important to recognise that before the crackdown on the roundabout there were sizable demonstrations by the Sunni population. Earlier, Al Jazeera revealed that medics who worked to assist wounded protesters have been targeted, with hundreds facing arrest and investigation by the regime. Bahraini police also carried out raids on girls' schools, detaining and beating them, during its crackdown, secret filming by Al Jazeera's Stratford revealed. The government denied this report. The allegations made by Al Jazeera English are totally baseless and without credibility, sources quoted by the Bahraini news agency said. Al-Moawda repeated the denial, saying there is a big exaggeration in some of what I have just heard now about torturing doctors and nurses. This is the third in a series of exclusive reports from Bahrain. Source: Al Jazeera Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Bukan kafir lho yang meruntuhkan mesjid di Bahrain, tapi orang Islam sunni......
Bahrain targets Shia religious sites Lihat videonya: http://aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2011/05/2011513112016389348.html Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: Demonstrations flare across Syria
Demonstrations flare across Syria Anti-government protesters take to the streets in several major cities and in mainly Kurdish towns. Last Modified: 13 May 2011 12:22 Opposition figures have presented their demands to Bouthaina Shaaban, adviser to President Assad [Reuters] Thousands of people have taken to the streets across Syria for another day of anti-government protests. The first rallies on Friday erupted in the country's mainly Kurdish northeast, where protesters demanded an end to military actions that activists say have killed hundreds of protesters. Demonstrators chanting Syria for all its sons, Long live independent, free Syria, and The Syrian people are one, rallied after noon prayers in towns including Qamishli, Amouda, Ras al-Ain and Derbassieh. Organisers estimated 3,500 people, mainly Kurds, protested in Amouda and up to 4,000 marched in Qamishli, including Arabs and members of Syria's Christian Assyrian sect. The Kurds are now expanding their participation in demonstrations calling for freedom in the country, along with other fellow Syrians. The army's intervention is condemned, Ismail Hami, secretary-general of the Kurdish Yakiti Party, told Al Jazeera. This national army is only there to protect the borders and not to open fire on citizens. Protests were also held in the central cities of Homs and Hama and in the Damascus district of Midan. Homs was under full military lockdown on Friday, with the army controlling all roads leading in. Tanks and secret police were deployed to every major square, a witness told Al Jazeera. Young people were routinely being stopped and questioned with many arrested, the witness said, while telephone communications were limited, but not fully cut. The flashpoint areas of Bab Sabaa, Bab Dreib, Bab Amr and Bab Tadmor, where security forces opened fire on protesters in previous weeks, had hundreds of plain clothes security around them, the witness said. Syrian soldiers rolled into other key cities in tanks and set up sand barriers topped with machine guns, the Associated Press reported earlier. Troops 'will not fire' Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, reportedly ordered troops not to fire on pro-democracy demonstrators ahead of Friday's rallies. Louay Hussein, a Syrian political activist, said Assad's adviser Bouthaina Shaaban had told him in a phone call on Thursday that definitive presidential orders have been issued not to shoot demonstrators and whoever violates this bears full responsibility, according to Reuters. Live Blog Syria Hussein was among four opposition figures who saw Shaaban earlier this month and presented demands that included an end to violent repression of protesters and the introduction of political reform in the country, ruled by the Assad family since 1970. I hope we will see [no firing at demonstrators] tomorrow. I still call for non-violent form of any protest regardless of the response of the security apparatus, Hussein said on Thursday. The meetings were the first between the opposition and senior officials since demonstrations calling for political freedom and an end to corruption erupted in the southern city of Deraa on March 18. Shaaban made a similar statement to the one on Thursday at the beginning of the demonstrations in March. Authorities have since blamed most of the violence on armed terrorist groups backed by Islamists and foreign agitators. Broadening the crackdown Friday - the main congregated day of prayer for Muslims - offers the only chance for Syrians to assemble in large numbers, making it easier to hold demonstrations. This Friday will be an important test after the government said it had largely put down the unrest. The Geneva-based International Commission of Jurists said troops had killed 700 people, rounded up thousands and indiscriminately shelled towns during the protests. Tanks advanced in the southern towns of Dael, Tafas, Jassem and al-Harah on Thursday, broadening a crackdown before Friday. In Deraa, a witness, who declined to be named, said the first significant demonstration since tanks shelled the city's old quarter into submission two weeks ago, erupted on Thursday. Eighteen people were reportedly killed in shelling by tanks in residential areas across the country on Wednesday. Ammar Qurabi, head of Syria's National Organisation for Human Rights, said 13 people had been killed in the southern village of al-Harah. Tanks also shelled a residential district in Homs killing at least five people, a rights campaigner in the city said. A sixth person was killed by a sniper. Washington and its European allies have been criticised for a tepid response to the violence in Syria, in contrast with Libya where they are carrying out a bombing campaign they say will not end until leader Muammar Gaddafi is driven from power. Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said Washington and its allies would hold Assad's
[proletar] Aljazeera: Libyan rebels seek US endorsement
Africa Libyan rebels seek US endorsement Libyan rebels' foreign minister to hold talks with US national security adviser, seeking formal recognition. Last Modified: 13 May 2011 12:16 The US appears keen on a support role and says it is not ready to grant full status to the NTC [Getty/AFP] Mahmoud Jibril, a Libyan rebel leader, is holding meetings with the US national security advisor in Washington DC, a day after the British government invited the Libyan rebel council to open its first foreign office in London. Jibril, who serves as the foreign minister of the rebels' National Transitional Council (NTC), was to hold White House talks with Tom Donilon, the US national security adviser to US President Barack Obama, on Friday. The meeting at the White House comes ahead of a Russian call for negotiations between Libyan rebels and Muammar Gaddafi's government as soon as possible. The statement, released on Friday, emphasised Moscow's opposition to any foreign interference in Libya, Syria or other states in the region. In wide-ranging remarks in Kazakhstan, Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, also said Iran must engage in serious conversation with global powers to dispel concerns it could be seeking nuclear weapons, Russian news agencies reported. He suggested a resolution of the conflict would usher in a new government but that talks with Gaddafi's government were unavoidable. The result of dialogue will be a new political system, but it is necessary to seek agreement also with those upon whom the prospects for calming the situation depends, Lavrov said. Russia says a Western-led coalition conducting air strikes in Libya is overstepping its UN Security Council mandate to protect civilians, and has vocally opposed foreign intervention in other conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa. US hesitant US officials would not say whether President Barack Obama would drop by Jibril's meeting with Donilon, a practice sometimes used by the White House for guests for whom protocol does not dictate an official meeting. Asked what he expected from Friday's talks with the US administration, Jibril replied: We need the recognition. The Libyan opposition, based in the eastern city of Benghazi, wants the United States to recognise the body as the sole legitimate interlocutor of the Libyan people, he said. Unlike France, Italy, Gambia and Qatar, the United States has not yet formally recognised the NTC. Jibril told reporters he believed Jordan would join the ranks of those who recognise the opposition in the coming days. All we need is for the world to understand our cause and help us get our legitimate rights realised, he said. Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, however, has signalled that Washington, which helped launch the NATO military operation and has since taken a support role, is not ready to grant full status to the NTC. Jibril warned earlier that the council was facing a very acute financial problem and needed help from the US administration. Last week, Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said the Gaddafi regime's frozen assets in the United States would be used to help the Libyan people. Frozen assets Around $30 billion dollars in Libyan assets have been frozen in the United States as a result of economic sanctions. Jibril's visit comes as the Obama administration gradually steps up contacts with Gaddafi's opposition to better understand the movement before deciding on the extent of US assistance. Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, has said the air war in Libya cost the United States roughly $750 million to date, more than the Pentagon's initial estimate of $604 million. On Thursday, another senior rebel leader, Mustafa Abdul Jalil, met British Prime Minister David Cameron, who invited the NTC to open an office in London, its first foreign mission. In Libya, Salah Badi, who commanded the rebel assault on Misurata's airport, said rebel positions were now only 10km from Zliten, the next main centre on the 215km coastal road from Misurata to Tripoli. Canadian and British warships patrolling waters off Libya beat back an attack by an unspecified number of fast-moving small boats on the Misurata port hours after the city's airport fell to rebels, NATO said in a statement. The Canadian frigate HMCS Charlottetown and British destroyer HMS Liverpool joined a French gunboat not under NATO command to turn back the pro-Gaddafi forces early Thursday, the alliance said. Foreigners killed The attack came as rebels celebrated the breaking of the two-month siege of the city. Separately, a French private security contractor was shot dead and four others arrested in a murky incident at a checkpoint in Benghazi, officials said. During a police check in Benghazi last night, five French nationals were detained, French foreign ministry spokesman Bernard Valero said.One of them was wounded by a bullet and died
[proletar] Memperingati Kebangkitan Nasional Dengan Jiwa Revolusioner Bung Karno
Memperingati Kebangkitan Nasional Dengan Jiwa Revolusioner Bung Karno Sebentar lagi bangsa kita akan merayakan Hari Kebangkitan Nasional 20 Mei. Peringatan iini untuk mengenang jasa para pemuda, yang dengan diprakarsai Dr Sutomo mendirikan organisasi Boedi Oetomo pada tanggal 8 Mei 1908. Organisasi inilah yang merupakan cikal bakal lahirnya, di kemudian harinya, berbagai organisasi pemuda, yang mencerminkan mulainya kebangkitan bangsa, seperti (antara lain) Jong Java, Jong Sumatra, Jong Celebes, Jong Ambon. Lahirnya Boedi Oetomo telah menumbuhkan inspirasi bagi banyak kalangan untuk memperkuat gerakan melawan penjajahan Belanda, antara lain dengan lahirnya Sarekat Dagang Islam (tahun 1911) yang kemudian menjadi Sarekat Islam (1913). Jadi, meskipun Boedi Oetomo bukan organisasi politik, dan lebih bersifat sosial, ekonomi dan kebudayaan, namun telah menggugah kesedaran politik berbagai kalangan waktu itu. Ini kelihatan dari lahirnya Partai Komuns Indonesia (PKI) pada tanggal 23 Mei 1920, setahun lebih dahulu dari pada Partai Komunis Tiongkok. Pembrontakan PKI dalam tahun 1926 melawan kolonialisme Belanda adalah lanjutan atau pengembangan jiwa kebangkitan bangsa yang telah dicetuskan oleh Boedi Oetomo ; Kebangkitan bangsa yang dirintis oleh Boedi Oetomo ini lebih menonjol lagi dengan berlangsungnya Kongres Pemuda se Indonesia dalam tahun 1928 yang melahirkan Sumpah Pemuda (Satu bangsa, satu tanahair, satu bahasa) yang menjadi kebanggaan sebagai pemersatu bangsa Indonesia, sampai sekarang ini. Entah berapa puluh ribu jiwa yang telah dikorbankan untuk itu semua, sehinggga bangsa kita bisa merdeka. Keadaan negara yang serba rusak dan membusuk Oleh karena itu, memperingati Hari Kebangkitan Nasional adalah tugas atau kewajiban penting bagi bangsa kita. Ini dalam rangka pendidikan bangsa, untuk melaksanakan nation building and character building yang selalu digandrungkan Bung Karno. Sebab, kita semua harus mengakui terus terang terang,dan jujur ( !!!) , bahwa bangsa dan negara kita -- sudah sejak era Orde Baru dalam keadaan rusak, membusuk, ambur adul, brengsek, kacau, kehilangan arah, kehilangan kepemimpinan nasional, kehilangan harga diri. Melihat segala hal yang negatif tentang negara dan bangsa kita dewasa ini kita bisa bertanya-tanya apakah negara dan bangsa semacam yang kita saksikan dewasa inikah yang dulu dicita-citakan bangsa sejak lahirnya Boedi Oetomo, Sarekat Islam, Partai Komunis Indonesia, Partai Nasional Indonesia, Sumpah Pemuda, lahirnya Pancasila dan Bhinneka Tunggal Ika dan revolusi 17 Agustus 45 ? Kerusakan moral di kalangan pejabat-pejabat tinggi (eksekutif, legislatif, dan judikatif) dan kebejatan rohani di kalangan para tokoh dan pemuka di berbagai bidang (organisasi kemasyarakatan dan agama) sudah sedemikian luasnya dan parahnya, sehingga sulit diperkirakan bisakah dan kapankah dan bagaimanakah kerusakan yang begitu hebat ini diperbaiki ??? Barangkali sulit kita temukan di Indonesia sekarang ini adanya pakar-pakar segala ilmu politik, sosial, ekonomi dan kebudayaan (termasuk agama) atau « tokoh-tokoh » yang bisa menjawab pertanyaan yang begitu besar dan penting ini. Yang jelas adalah bahwa kerusakan atau pembusukan sudah begitu meluas dan begitu besar, sehingga tidak bisa diatasi atau diperbaiki dalam tempo 5 atau 10 atau 15 tahun, dengan cara-cara biasa dan oleh orang-orang sejenis yang memegang kekuasaan dan pengaruh seperti sekarang ini. Perjalanan bangsa yang panjang dan berliku-liku Dengan memperingati Hari Kebangkitan Nasional ini kita melihat betapa panjangnya dan sangat berliku-likunya perjalanan bangsa Indonesia untuk mencapai kemerdekaan nasional. Begitu banyak pengorbanan yang telah diberikan oleh banyak pejuang dari berbagai golongan, suku, agama, sejak didirikannya Boedi Oetomo, sampai proklamasi 17 Agustus 45. Peringatan Kebangkitan Nasional kali ini adalah kesempatan yang baik sekali untuk merenungkan itu semua, dan mencoba memandang masa depan bangsa dan negara kita, di tengah-tengah situasi dunia yang mengalami banyak pergolakan dan menyongsong adanya perubahan, baik di negara-negara Arab atau di Timur Tengah, Eropa, Asia, Afrika dan Amerika Latin. Kita semua melihat bahwa Tiongkok yang pernah dimusuhi oleh rejim militer Suharto puluhan tahun sekarang menjadi kekuatan polilik, ekonomi dan militer yang tidak bisa diremehkan di dunia. India yang pernah juga dianggap negara yang miskin dan terbelakang sekarang sudah bangkit juga. Amerika Latin yang dalam jangka lama menjadi daerah « setengah jajahan » AS sekarang menjadi kekuatan yang tidak bisa dipermainkan lagi oleh AS (ingat kasus Kuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Brasilia, , Nicaragua). Ketika di Indonesia ada kalangan-kalangan yang ingin merobah NKRI dan menggantikannya dengan Negara Islam Indonesia yang menjalankan Syariah Islam, maka jelaslah cita-cita semacam itu bertentangan sama sekali atau merupakan pengkhianatan terhadap isi dan tujuan perjuangan bangsa, yang
[proletar] France24: Egyptian authorities seek to halt march to Gaza
Egyptian authorities seek to halt march to Gaza By News Wires the 13/05/2011 - 15:02 Egyptian authorities created a hurdle for organisers of a planned march from Cairo to Gaza by blocking access Thursday to the Sinai Penisula. Due to depart on Saturday, the march is in protest of Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories. AFP - Egyptian authorities on Friday blocked access to the Sinai peninsula, where it stepped up security, to prevent a march from Cairo to Gaza, an AFP correspondent said. The march was due to leave from Cairo's Tahrir Square on Saturday to protest the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land, and call for the right of return of Palestinian refugees and the release of all Palestinian prisoners. Peace Bridge, one of the main access routes to Sinai from mainland Egypt, has been closed to all but residents of the peninsula. The army also stepped up security around the peninsula, a security official said. The march is timed to coincide with the anniversary of the day Israel was established, often referred to in Arabic as the Nakba, or catastrophe. Meanwhile, dozens of protesters gathered outside the Israeli embassy in central Cairo on Friday to demand the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador and the severance of ties with the Jewish state. Millions of martyrs to Jerusalem, the protesters chanted as army and police officers stepped up security around the building housing the embassy. Source URL: http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-egypt-authorities-stop-march-israel-palestinian-territories-tahrir-square-gaza Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Aljazeera: (MJ Rosenberg ) Who cares if Hamas recognises Israel?
Opinion Who cares if Hamas recognises Israel? Abbas, as head of the PLO, will be negotiating with Israel - not Hamas. So why is Israel rejecting a unity government? MJ Rosenberg Last Modified: 13 May 2011 08:17 Listen to this page using ReadSpeaker The media is full of conflicting reports about whether or not Hamas is ready to recognise Israel. In some reports, Hamas spokesmen imply that it would. Others reports have them saying never. This story encapsulates this contradiction in its headline: Hamas accepts 1967 borders, but will never recognise Israel, top official says. But why does it matter whether Hamas recognises Israel or not, so long as it agrees to permanently end attacks against Israel? Who needs its recognition? The issue of Hamas recognition of Israel would be valid if Israel was about to enter negotiations with it. Those negotiations would, in fact, be meaningless if Hamas ruled out recognition as an end-result of negotiations - as meaningless as if Israel ruled out withdrawing from the West Bank. But no one is proposing Israeli/Hamas negotiations. The issue now is whether Israel and/or the United States should consider dealing with a government that includes Hamas. Does the Hamas presence rule out negotiating with that government? It shouldn't, not when both Fatah and Hamas say that it will be president Mahmoud Abbas, as head of the Palestine Liberation Organisation, who will be in charge of relations with Israel. Abbas is fully committed to peace with Israel. He opposes all forms of violence. His forces have worked with Israel's to thwart terrorism, earning the Israeli government's praise as a partner for peace. Hamas as an excuse In fact, since the death of his predecessor, Yasir Arafat, Abbas has made the establishment of a Palestinian state at peace with Israel his number one goal. Why does it matter what Hamas thinks about negotiations when it will be the PLO that will be conducting them? All that is necessary from Hamas is that it pledge an end to violence, and keep it. Hamas' presence in the Palestinian government should no more rule out negotiations with it than the presence of Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu party in Netanyahu's coalition makes negotiations with Netanyahu beyond the pale. Lieberman, after all, opposes negotiations with the Palestinians and favours transfer, a version of ethnic cleansing, under which Palestinians would be forcibly moved to Arab lands. Unlike Hamas, which would have no role in foreign policy in the proposed unity government, Lieberman is Israel's foreign minister. But that should not matter, the same way Hamas' presence should not matter. Governments have all kinds of partners in their ruling coalitions; what matters is the policies the coalition adopts - not the views of its various components. If Netanyahu and Abbas agree to negotiate, the views of Hamas and Yisrael Beiteinu are beside the point, again with the caveat that all forms of violence are utterly and completely proscribed. That is why both Israel and the United States should drop its demand that Hamas recognise Israel in advance of negotiations. First of all, Hamas is not going to do it. The only card it has in its dealings with Israel is the recognition card and it is not going to play it in advance of negotiations. Demanding that it play it now is like demanding that Israel not freeze, but dismantle, settlements prior to negotiations. It won't happen. And it doesn't matter. Politics vs peace It appears that the Obama administration may understand this. Asked about the implications of the unity agreement, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was equivocal: There are many steps that have yet to be undertaken in order to implement the agreement. And we are going to be carefully assessing what this actually means, because there are a number of different potential meanings to it, both on paper and in practise. Congress, of course, responded the way it usually does, with an AIPAC-authored letter warning Palestinians not to unite. No one could expect anything else in the midst of the pre-2012 fundraising season. But then Congress has never given much evidence of caring whether the Israelis and Palestinians come to terms - while the White House has. Besides, it is the president who needs to worry about the implications of a deepening Israeli-Palestinian conflict on the national interest. Maybe Congress should too, but it rarely, if ever, has. Unfortunately, if past is prologue, the White House will ultimately join the Israelis in ignoring the possibility that Hamas may be ready to live in peace alongside Israel - even if it won't explicitly say so. It will do the same thing both the Bush and Obama administrations did with the unprecedented Arab League initiative which offered Israel full peace and normalisation in exchange for territorial withdrawal. It will ignore it and, with the Israelis, hope
Re: [proletar] Kontol rezameutia tak sudi memaafkan uplik
uplik..uplik... Tukang ngayal kelas comberan. Omongan reza soal lagu dia khayalin sebagai kebenaran. Akibatnya, si uplik ketipu khayalannya sendiri, alias dikibulin mentah-mentah oleh dirinya sendiri dan, kena! Nggak ada reza ngomong soal ejakulasi lantaran liat orang dengerin lagu. Yang ada cuma si uplik yang (lagi- lagi) nggak tau apa yang dia omongin. Liat aja, si uplik nyangka ejakulasi itu berhubungan dengan diare. Artinya, si uplik kagak tau ejakulasi itu apaan. Tapi harus diakui si uplik itu hebat. Gagah berani pamer ketololan di muka umum. Terang-terangan ngibul selagi ada saksi yang waktu itu ngobrol sama reza, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/305115 --- Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Kontol rezameutia itu menderita premature ejaculation Cuma melihat orang berpelukan sembari dengarin lagu dia lantas dapat argasme, tanpa penetrasi tentu saja. Nggak heran hidupnya jadi sengsara. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Kontol rezameutia tak sudi memaafkan uplik
Ni satu lagi orang Islam gila yang demen pamer isi otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk nista lagi menjijikkan. Saya yang menganggap serius omongan rezameutia yang bercerita dia dapat orgamse karena melihat orang berpelukan + ganja + dengerin lagu eh diributin.. Ni ornag jeals gila... Dia juga bilang antara lain Indonesia yang dedel duwel itu perlu membantu Belanda yang adalah salah satu negeri makmur di dunia.. Yang bilang kebijaksanaan pemerintah Belanda untuk memberi tunjangan sekitgar 700 euro tiap bulan untuk gelandangan melanggar HAM.. Yang suka ngeributin orang Belanda yang dianggap miskin bila penghasilannnya dibvawah 1,200 euro sebulan (lalu mendapat berbagai tunjangan dan subsidi..).. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: uplik..uplik... Tukang ngayal kelas comberan. Omongan reza soal lagu dia khayalin sebagai kebenaran. Akibatnya, si uplik ketipu khayalannya sendiri, alias dikibulin mentah-mentah oleh dirinya sendiri dan, kena! Nggak ada reza ngomong soal ejakulasi lantaran liat orang dengerin lagu. Yang ada cuma si uplik yang (lagi- lagi) nggak tau apa yang dia omongin. Liat aja, si uplik nyangka ejakulasi itu berhubungan dengan diare. Artinya, si uplik kagak tau ejakulasi itu apaan. Tapi harus diakui si uplik itu hebat. Gagah berani pamer ketololan di muka umum. Terang-terangan ngibul selagi ada saksi yang waktu itu ngobrol sama reza, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/305115 --- Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Kontol rezameutia itu menderita premature ejaculation Cuma melihat orang berpelukan sembari dengarin lagu dia lantas dapat argasme, tanpa penetrasi tentu saja. Nggak heran hidupnya jadi sengsara. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] bayi sarap
Sedih juga si gaek uzur itu nggak dianggap pikun... :( Tapi, ayo kita mari bergumbira saja karena si gaek itu dinyatakan masih bayi dan sudah sarap. --- blubps blubps@... wrote: kapan tu ada yang iseng nanyain gw via japri, gimana sih perasaan lu sebage perempuan dikatain oleh orang tua pikun itu sebage lonte, lonte kegatelen pulak? pertanyaan itu gak gw tanggepin. meskipun benernya pertanyaannya cukup menggiurkan gituh. tapi gw diemin ajah waktu ituh. abisnya, gw ga nganggep orang tua itu pikun, sih. gw lebih ngganggep doi tu bayi, bayi sarap blub! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] dicari: penolong tuhan
Payah nih, gua tinggal liburan bukannya dimanfaatin buat belajar baca-tulis yang bener malah rajin mengasah ketololan. Sekarang, coba baca keras-keras Mazmur 22:2. Seperti apa bunyinya. Jangan salah, ini bukan soal ayat-ayatan, tapi soal pelajaran baca-tulis. Jadi, jangan ngebet ngebahas soal isi ayat sebelon buta huruf ilang. Jangan juga sok nebak mana subyek mana obyek siapa pelengkap penderita di ayat tsb. Cukup dibunyiin aja kalimatnya sampe orang-orang di sini pada denger. Nah, coba bunyiin yang keras itu Mazmur 22:2. Mau dieja juga boleh kalo belon lancar mah. Hehe.. --- item abu itemabu@... wrote: Hehehe... Tuhan yg kena salib itu ga minta tolong koq, beda dgn auloh yg minta2 tolong. From: ajeg ajegilelu@... Tulungin tuh tuhan lu yang kena salib lagi sama orang-orang kanan, hehe.. --- item abu itemabu@... wrote: 47:7. Hai orang-orang mu'min, jika kamu menolong (agama) Allah, niscaya Dia akan menolongmu dan meneguhkan kedudukanmu. Kayaknya sampe sekarang blm ada tuh orang Islam yg jadi penolong auloh, padahal auloh udah minta tolong, hehehe... From: ajeg ajegilelu@... Bisik-bisik telah sampai pada kesimpulan yang tepat: para penunggang itu menyalib tuhan lagi! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: bayi sarap (Dipo lagi pamer aotaknya yagn busuk...)
Dipo yang dungu kayak bagi, korban kibulan orang Arab primitif dan yang otaknya sudah rusak lagi pamer isi otaknya yang sudah jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Dia tentu tidak tahu bahwa yang mengganggap saya pikun itu ya perempuan yang suka bersikap sebagai lonte gatelan dan tukang fitnah yang otaknya juga sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Dokter keluarga (huisart) saya yang kompeten menyatakan saya sehat walafiat tidak kurang suatu apapun juga dan punya daya ingatan yang melebihi rata-rata manusia dewasa... Antara lain karena saya rajin jogging dan dieteist juga mengikuti menu yang saya makan tiap hari.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Sedih juga si gaek uzur itu nggak dianggap pikun... :( Tapi, ayo kita mari bergumbira saja karena si gaek itu dinyatakan masih bayi dan sudah sarap. --- blubps blubps@ wrote: kapan tu ada yang iseng nanyain gw via japri, gimana sih perasaan lu sebage perempuan dikatain oleh orang tua pikun itu sebage lonte, lonte kegatelen pulak? pertanyaan itu gak gw tanggepin. meskipun benernya pertanyaannya cukup menggiurkan gituh. tapi gw diemin ajah waktu ituh. abisnya, gw ga nganggep orang tua itu pikun, sih. gw lebih ngganggep doi tu bayi, bayi sarap blub! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: bayi sarap (Dipo lagi pamer aotaknya yagn busuk...)
Dipo yang dungu kayak bagi, korban kibulan orang Arab primitif dan yang otaknya sudah rusak lagi pamer isi otaknya yang sudah jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Dia tentu tidak tahu bahwa yang mengganggap saya bayi itu ya perempuan yang suka bersikap sebagai lonte gatelan dan tukang fitnah yang otaknya juga sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Pertama dokter keluarga (huisart) saya yang kompeten menyatakan saya sehat walafiat tidak kurang suatu apapun juga .. Antara lain karena saya rajin jogging dan dieteist juga mengikuti menu yang saya makan tiap hari.. Dan ya buka bayi lagi. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Sedih juga si gaek uzur itu nggak dianggap pikun... :( Tapi, ayo kita mari bergumbira saja karena si gaek itu dinyatakan masih bayi dan sudah sarap. --- blubps blubps@ wrote: kapan tu ada yang iseng nanyain gw via japri, gimana sih perasaan lu sebage perempuan dikatain oleh orang tua pikun itu sebage lonte, lonte kegatelen pulak? pertanyaan itu gak gw tanggepin. meskipun benernya pertanyaannya cukup menggiurkan gituh. tapi gw diemin ajah waktu ituh. abisnya, gw ga nganggep orang tua itu pikun, sih. gw lebih ngganggep doi tu bayi, bayi sarap blub! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: bayi sarap (Dipo lagi pamer aotaknya yagn busuk...)
Dipo yang dungu kayak bagi, korban kibulan orang Arab primitif dan yang otaknya sudah rusak lagi pamer isi otaknya yang sudah jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Dia tentu tidak tahu bahwa yang mengganggap saya bayi itu ya perempuan yang suka bersikap sebagai lonte gatelan dan tukang fitnah yang otaknya juga sudah busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan.. Pertama dokter keluarga (huisart) saya yang kompeten menyatakan saya sehat walafiat tidak kurang suatu apapun juga .. Antara lain karena saya rajin jogging dan dieteist juga mengikuti menu yang saya makan tiap hari.. Dan ya bukan bayi lagi. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Sedih juga si gaek uzur itu nggak dianggap pikun... :( Tapi, ayo kita mari bergumbira saja karena si gaek itu dinyatakan masih bayi dan sudah sarap. --- blubps blubps@ wrote: kapan tu ada yang iseng nanyain gw via japri, gimana sih perasaan lu sebage perempuan dikatain oleh orang tua pikun itu sebage lonte, lonte kegatelen pulak? pertanyaan itu gak gw tanggepin. meskipun benernya pertanyaannya cukup menggiurkan gituh. tapi gw diemin ajah waktu ituh. abisnya, gw ga nganggep orang tua itu pikun, sih. gw lebih ngganggep doi tu bayi, bayi sarap blub! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Dipo yang gila LHC..
Dipo yang memang gila itu menulis di http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/264319 Di semua pemberitaan, termasuk dalam berita CNN ini, disebut bahwa percobaan itu sebagai upaya para ilmuwan dalam kaitan dengan keberadaan tuhan / ketuhanan. Alias, para ilmuwan berharap bisa membuktikan keberadaan partikel tuhan. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Game over..
Jelas gamblang si uplik dah KO sampe sengklek termehek-mehek.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/313655 Ini juga soal pelajaran baca-tulis arti kata kok. Bukan soal ayat-ayatan. --- Abbas abas_amin08@... wrote: Jadi JELAS bahwa Jusfiak sudah kalah TELAK ! Sudah KO --- Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Game over.. Game over.. Nggak ada tuh orang Islam yang hadir disini yang bisa membantah apa yang dibuktikan secara telak oleh great pretender dan sebuah kenyataan: sesuai dengan bunyi QS 4:82 buku taik anjing al-Mushaf yang dijadikan kitab suci oleh orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak babi seperti Abbas Amin, Dipo, johny-indon,ndeboost, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, Tawang dll itu TIDAK berisi wahyu Allah yang nota bene tidak berbukti ada. Dengan kata lain ajaran agama taik anjing Islam itu hanya berdasarkan omong kosong dan kibulan orang Arab primitif doang. Diskusi tentang agama taik anjing Islam itupun selesai sudah. Game over.. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: nggak ada game over
Dipo yang memang sudah gila tidak tahu apa arti kata Kalau... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Nggak ada game over sebelum si uplik jelasin arti 'kalau' di QS 4:82. Game over cuma hayalan si uplik tolol. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Karena yang ada dibatok kepala Dipo itu adalah otak babi...
Karena yang ada dibatok kepala Dipo itu adalah otak babi maka dia tidak tahu arti kata Kalau.. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/313655 Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Nurcholis Majid Meramu Islam Pluralistik Sesuai HAM !!!
Contoh omongan sedeng Dipo yang memang gila itu.. Dia bilang menulis: Mus, term Hak Asasi Manusia alias Human Rights itu mah temuan baru sejak bangsa Barat merasa menderita akibat Perang Dunia II (1945). Menderita karena kewalahan menghadapi Jerman, Jepang, Itali, dan lebih-lebih lagi menderita karena terpaksa melepas tanah-tanah jajahan mereka :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Mus, term Hak Asasi Manusia alias Human Rights itu mah temuan baru sejak bangsa Barat merasa menderita akibat Perang Dunia II (1945). Menderita karena kewalahan menghadapi Jerman, Jepang, Itali, dan lebih-lebih lagi menderita karena terpaksa melepas tanah-tanah jajahan mereka :) Sedangkan Islam, sejak abad ketujuh Masehi sudah menerapkannya dalam kehidupan sehari-hari walau tanpa treak-treak ham-him-hum apalagi hompimpah. Prof. Christopher Weeramantry juga bilang begitulah... Sebagai wanita yang ngaku-ngaku anggota PBB, situ mustinya hadir dong dalam kuliah umum si profesor di depan sidang Komisi Hak Asasi Manusia PBB di Jenewa. Ya nggak? Kan di sana, Weeramantry keluarin pendapat yang lebih mengerikan lagi: âUmmat manusia berhutang budi pada Islam yang telah melahirkan dan memperkenalkan Hak Asasi Manusia kepada bumi ini,â Begitu dia bilang. Inget nggak? Atau waktu itu musmus bolos kuliah umum di sidang Jenewa? Kalau waktu sidang itu musmus lagi ketiduran alias ditiduri, ya nggak papa. Makanya coba deh mulai sekarang kejar ketertinggalanmu dengan mulai baca-baca buku si profesor. Nih ya, di bukunya yang terkenal (Universalising International Law), bekas hakim Mahkamah Internasional itu terang-terangan bilang hukum internasional yang konon modern itu hanyalah bentuk yang keluar dari cetakan Graeco-Judeo-Christian era sesudah penyaliban si gondrong, alias era westernisasi keyakinan semit. So, international law takes on aspects of a western religious and philosophical culture. Oleh karenanya wajar jika syariah internasional itu tetap sarat dengan ukuran-ukuran kepentingan Barat kendati nekat pasang papan nama internasional dan ngaku-ngakunya untuk, dan tentang, manusia, seluruh manusia. Selamat nguber. --- muskitawati muskitawati@ wrote: Nurcholis Majid Meramu Islam Pluralistik Sesuai HAM !!! Aselinya Islam adalah ajaran yang melanggar HAM dan anti-Pluralistik, padahal lingkungan umat Islam di Indonesia sangat pluralistik dan negara ini telah dengan tegas menolak Syariah Islam karena Syariah Islam melanggar HAM. Negara Indonesia yang berdasarkan Pancasila yang pluralistik ini harus atau wajib menegakkan HAM bukan menentang atau melanggar HAM karena negara kita telah menandatangani deklarasi HAM bersama negara2 anggauta United Nation lainnya. Karena faktanya Indonesia bukan negara Syariah Islam, maka tidak bisa kita mengamalkan ajaran Islam yang melanggar HAM dan anti-pluralistik. Untuk itulah, Prof. Dr. Nurcholis Majid telah meramu ibadah Islam yang disesuaikan dengan lingkungan yang pluralistik di Indonesia ini untuk mencegah atau menghindari konflik2 yang hanya merusak kedamaian kehidupan bangsa ini semua. muhamad.syukur muhamad.syukur@ wrote: PLURALISME DAN PEMURTADAN Oleh: Azhari Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Nurcholis Majid (Contoh omongan sedeng Dipo yang memang gila itu..)
Contoh omongan sedeng Dipo yang memang gila itu.. Dia bilang menulis: Mus, term Hak Asasi Manusia alias Human Rights itu mah temuan baru sejak bangsa Barat merasa menderita akibat Perang Dunia II (1945). Menderita karena kewalahan menghadapi Jerman, Jepang, Itali, dan lebih-lebih lagi menderita karena terpaksa melepas tanah-tanah jajahan mereka :) --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Mus, term Hak Asasi Manusia alias Human Rights itu mah temuan baru sejak bangsa Barat merasa menderita akibat Perang Dunia II (1945). Menderita karena kewalahan menghadapi Jerman, Jepang, Itali, dan lebih-lebih lagi menderita karena terpaksa melepas tanah-tanah jajahan mereka :) Sedangkan Islam, sejak abad ketujuh Masehi sudah menerapkannya dalam kehidupan sehari-hari walau tanpa treak-treak ham-him-hum apalagi hompimpah. Prof. Christopher Weeramantry juga bilang begitulah... Sebagai wanita yang ngaku-ngaku anggota PBB, situ mustinya hadir dong dalam kuliah umum si profesor di depan sidang Komisi Hak Asasi Manusia PBB di Jenewa. Ya nggak? Kan di sana, Weeramantry keluarin pendapat yang lebih mengerikan lagi: âUmmat manusia berhutang budi pada Islam yang telah melahirkan dan memperkenalkan Hak Asasi Manusia kepada bumi ini,â Begitu dia bilang. Inget nggak? Atau waktu itu musmus bolos kuliah umum di sidang Jenewa? Kalau waktu sidang itu musmus lagi ketiduran alias ditiduri, ya nggak papa. Makanya coba deh mulai sekarang kejar ketertinggalanmu dengan mulai baca-baca buku si profesor. Nih ya, di bukunya yang terkenal (Universalising International Law), bekas hakim Mahkamah Internasional itu terang-terangan bilang hukum internasional yang konon modern itu hanyalah bentuk yang keluar dari cetakan Graeco-Judeo-Christian era sesudah penyaliban si gondrong, alias era westernisasi keyakinan semit. So, international law takes on aspects of a western religious and philosophical culture. Oleh karenanya wajar jika syariah internasional itu tetap sarat dengan ukuran-ukuran kepentingan Barat kendati nekat pasang papan nama internasional dan ngaku-ngakunya untuk, dan tentang, manusia, seluruh manusia. Selamat nguber. --- muskitawati muskitawati@ wrote: Nurcholis Majid Meramu Islam Pluralistik Sesuai HAM !!! Aselinya Islam adalah ajaran yang melanggar HAM dan anti-Pluralistik, padahal lingkungan umat Islam di Indonesia sangat pluralistik dan negara ini telah dengan tegas menolak Syariah Islam karena Syariah Islam melanggar HAM. Negara Indonesia yang berdasarkan Pancasila yang pluralistik ini harus atau wajib menegakkan HAM bukan menentang atau melanggar HAM karena negara kita telah menandatangani deklarasi HAM bersama negara2 anggauta United Nation lainnya. Karena faktanya Indonesia bukan negara Syariah Islam, maka tidak bisa kita mengamalkan ajaran Islam yang melanggar HAM dan anti-pluralistik. Untuk itulah, Prof. Dr. Nurcholis Majid telah meramu ibadah Islam yang disesuaikan dengan lingkungan yang pluralistik di Indonesia ini untuk mencegah atau menghindari konflik2 yang hanya merusak kedamaian kehidupan bangsa ini semua. muhamad.syukur muhamad.syukur@ wrote: PLURALISME DAN PEMURTADAN Oleh: Azhari Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: Protesters, security forces clash in Syria
CNN.com Powered by Protesters, security forces clash in Syria (CNN) -- Demonstrators hurling rocks and security forces firing tear gas clashed Friday in a Syrian city, the latest expression of unrest amid a nationwide wave of anti-government rage. The fighting took place in Hama, a western city where the government suppressed an uprising by Sunni Muslims in 1982, and there were also demonstrations in the western city of Homs. Protesters have taken to the streets every Friday recently after the weekly Muslim prayers, and security forces were deployed in force to greet the turnouts. A U.N. official says that as many as 850 people may have died since protests began in mid-March, but there were no immediate reports of casualties on Friday. Activists have labeled this The Friday of Free Syrian Women, a commemoration of those females rallying for freedom and a remembrance of those who have been slain. This is history, said activist Wissam Tarif, executive director of the human rights group Insan. This is a new Middle East, those are the people, the young people of the country standing up saying, 'We want to live with dignity, we want freedom and we want prosperity and we can do it. ' We have the capacity and we have the knowledge and we can do it. And we have an obstacle: the obstacles are oppression, are the regimes and the Syrian people are now standing up and saying it. In Hama, thousands of demonstrators rallied for the end of the Bashar al-Assad regime and chanted anti-government slogans, two witnesses said. Security forces responded by firing tear gas at the crowds while the protesters threw stones at the forces. One of the witnesses said demonstrators tore down a large picture of al-Assad on a government building, and security forces beat protesters with sticks. The Baathist government of Hafez al-Assad, Bashar's late father who once ruled Syria, crushed a revolt in Hama decades ago against the Sunnis, who are the majority religious group in Syria. Estimates put the death toll anywhere between 10,000 and 30,000 people, though the exact number was never known. The government has been dominated by the al-Assad family's Alawite community, a minority religious group that's an offshoot of Shiite Islam. The memory of the fierce government action in 1982 is alive among protesters defying the regime. One eyewitness in Homs, a retired teacher and a political activist, said a few thousand people demonstrated in the Bab Sebaa neighborhood after Friday prayers. He said security fired into the air to disperse protesters. He also saw a smaller demonstration in the Bab Amr district. Videos of purported marches in Idlib, Homs, and Daraa also surfaced on Friday. The government has been clamping down on street demonstrations over the past two months in Daraa, Homs, Banias and other cities, and deadly clashes have erupted during anti-government protests, in which citizens have denounced the lack of political freedom. The regime has blamed armed groups for the violence and has reported the deaths of security personnel. But the demonstrators, emboldened by the tough crackdown and the mass anti-government rallies in other Arab nations this year, have blamed the killings on the government. The number killed in clashes with government forces has been put by various human rights groups at between 700 and 850, according to Rupert Colville, a spokesman for the U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. Colville said thousands of arrests have been reported, including the detentions of many Syrian opposition leaders and activists. Two activists, Najati Tayara and Rayzan Zaytouni, were arrested this week. We cannot verify these numbers for sure, but believe they are likely to be close to reality, Colville told reporters during a briefing in Geneva, Switzerland. Syria said many people have been arrested in what it calls riots. On Friday, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency quoted an Interior Ministry official as saying that more than 5,077 people had turned themselves in to authorities and were freed after pledging not to repeat any act(s) that harm security of the homeland and citizens. The ministry had earlier urged those who were misled into participating in or committing unlawful acts punishable by law to turn themselves in before Friday and inform about saboteurs and terrorists and the whereabouts of weapons. Those who do will be exempted from punishment and the legal consequences and prosecutions, the report said. The Syrian regime has drawn international condemnation for its fierce reaction to peaceful demonstrations. Demonstrations spread Wednesday to Aleppo University, where an activist said security personnel and pro-government forces roughed up demonstrations. The U.N. human rights agency expressed concern over the shelling of the Bab Amr district in Homs. We urge the government to exercise utmost restraint, cease
[proletar] CNN: Security forces kill 4 protesters in Yemen, witnesses say
CNN.com Powered by Click Here to Print SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Security forces kill 4 protesters in Yemen, witnesses say (CNN) -- Security forces in Yemen killed four people when they opened fire on anti-government protesters on their way to a funeral Friday in southwestern Yemen, medical workers and witnesses said. At least 12 other protesters were shot, with three of them in critical condition, medical workers said. The security forces were trying to disperse the crowd gathered in Ibb province to mourn a protester who was killed on Wednesday, the medical workers and witnesses said. The province is about 120 miles from the capital, Sanaa. Yemen is among the Arab countries swept up in protests against longtime rulers since the January revolt that ousted Tunisian strongman Zine El Abedine Ben Ali. The impoverished and unstable nation has been wracked by anti-government protests and clashes between demonstrators and security forces for many weeks. We were walking to the graveyard to bury our dead, and the government killed three more, said a protester who attended Friday's funeral. This is the strategy of a dictatorship ruler. The protester spoke before the fourth death was confirmed Friday. Medical workers have been trailing protesters in ambulances, anticipating violence. CNN is not able to independently verify the witness accounts. On Yemen TV, President Ali Abdullah Saleh said, The opposition want to destroy the Yemeni economy, but we will not allow them to do so. All Yemenis must unite to stand against the crises, he said. Yemen is on the verge of an economic catastrophe due to ongoing political unrest and frequent bomb attacks against oil pipelines, Saba quoted Oil and Minerals Minister Amir al-Aydarous as saying Thursday. Acts of sabotage against the pipeline in Wadi Ubaida in Marib have hampered the flow of oil since mid-March and undermined the trust of investors in the country, Aydarous was quoted as saying. Several oil companies have quit the country and the refineries in the southwestern governorate of Aden came to a standstill a week ago, he told the Yemeni parliament, according to Saba. Minister of Trade and Industry Hisham Sharaf has estimated that the protests have cost the nation's economy $5 billion, or about 17 percent of Yemen's 2009 gross domestic product, Saba said. GDP is the market value of all final goods and services produced in a given period. On Friday, Saleh's regime reacted positively to news that Qatar had withdrawn from efforts to end the upheaval in Yemen. The Persian Gulf emirate walked away over Saleh's reluctance to leave the country to sign a deal that Qatar had helped negotiate between Saleh and opposition leaders through the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council. As protests against his 32-year rule mount in Yemen, Saleh has said he won't leave the country to sign the deal because he fears a coup, a senior official of his ruling party said last week. Yemen is ready to deal positively with the Gulf initiative without the participation of Qatar, according to Saba, Yemen's state-run news agency. It has become clear that Qatar has its own agenda, Saba quoted an official source at the General People's Congress and the National Democratic Coalition Parties as saying. The Gulf Cooperation Council is made up of Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The agreement says that Saleh will transfer power and leave office within 30 days. It provides immunity for him and those who served in his regime and calls for a unity government to be formed within seven days. Saleh wanted an aide to go Saudi Arabia and sign the deal on his behalf. But Saleh's opposition threatened to back out of the deal if he did not personally sign the agreement. Links referenced within this article Find this article at: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/13/yemen.violence/index.html?hpt=T2 Click Here to Print SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Uncheck the box to remove the list of links referenced in the article. © 2008 Cable News Network. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] bintang merahnya trus bersinar..
--- rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: --- ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Aku tahu kalian di sini untuk membunuhku. Tembak, pengecut! Kalian hanyalah pembunuh. - che (14 Mei 1928 - 9 Oktober 1967) baru aja nonton film 'apocalypse now redux'. katanya perang itu mencakup 3 hal, kekuasaan, uang, dan pameran senjata, dan semuanya itu dibungkus menjadi satu, keserakahan. Tepatnya, 3in1 itu adalah visi-misinya penjajah. Kalo perang bisa juga merupakan langkah jawaban atas penjajahan imperialism. Seperti yang digebrak arek-arek di Suroboyo maupun arek-arek Bandung Selatan dll. Termasuk, apa yang dijalani che guevara arek- arek di Amerika selatan sana. Sekarang, bangsa-bangsa nekolim yang panik karena negerinya semakin dedel-duwel, menunjukkan tabiat aslinya. Mereka main fitnah; main serbu; main bunuh; main rampok; main sembur bom ke atas kepala rakyat sipil di negara lain. Ya sembur, seolah mereka itu mbah dukun yang lagi mengobati dedel-duwel di negeri sendiri. Kekejaman mereka sekarang jauh lebih terbuka dan lebih kasar dari kebejadan mereka di jaman kolonial, tapi masih memakai cara ampuh yang sama yakni, menunggangi tuhan. Dalam tulisan dicari: penolong tuhan (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/314984) saya yakin penunggangan ini adalah juga kerjaan orang-orang Kanan seperti di jaman kolonial dulu. Di Eropa orang menyebut-nyebut sekarang ini era kebangkitan Kanan Baru. my fav scene... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Decko2h-S20 Coppola memang jagonya drama kemanusiaan. Dia selalu kasih bahan permenungan yang bagus. Bakal tambah bagus kalo diwarnai fakta kehidupan dari jagonya dokumenter ini, http://www.youtube.com/user/southoftheborderdoc?blend=7ob=5 for the first time in the region the leaders look like the people they govern - cristina kirchner for the first time the poor are treated like human beings - lula da silva the concrete evidence that we can change the course of history - chavez Padahal, the very-very first time itu berangkat dari bangsa Indonesia, yang lahir untuk build the world a new. Sedangkan the very-very old stupido junkies adalah dia yang sudah tak asing lagi... uplik the bloon..! Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] France24: Syrian troops open fire, defying presidential order
Syrian troops open fire, defying presidential order By News Wires the 13/05/2011 - 18:24 Security forces killed two demonstrators in a central Syrian city on Friday, a rights activist has said. President Bashar al-Assad reportedly ordered troops not to fire on anti-government protesters, who once more rallied across the country. AFP - Syrian security forces killed two demonstrators in the central city of Homs on Friday despite orders by President Bashar al-Assad not to open fire on protesters, a human rights activist said. Activist Nawar al-Omar said Fuad Rajab, 40, was hit in the head with a bullet when security forces opened fire to break up a demonstration in Syria's third-largest city. A second protester was also killed, the activist said, without providing further details. Meanwhile, troops deployed in large numbers to protest hubs across the country, including the Damascus suburb of Saqba, where they tore down banners and signs hung in the streets, activists told AFP. Regime opponents took to the streets across Syria for rallies, as Assad's forces pressed on with a campaign of sweeping arrests in protest hotspots. Source URL: http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-syria-troops-open-fire-defy-order-al-assad-homs Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Setelah Pil, Kini Ada 'Kondom Viagra'
Sedia yang ukuran segini? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/message/305966 --- sunny ambon@... wrote: Refl: Kemajuan ilmu kimia, biokimia etc samasekali tidak melupakan kepentingan jasmaniah dan rochaniah surga dunia.. http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/kesehatan/2011/05/11/brk,20110511-333721,id.html Setelah Pil, Kini Ada 'Kondom Viagra' Rabu, 11 Mei 2011 | 11:07 WIB intelligentvending.co.uk TEMPO Interaktif, Ini kabar baik bagi pria yang punya masalah ereksi. Para pria yang sulit ejakulasi kini punya pilihan lain. Selain pil biru atau yang dikenal sebagai viagra, kini ada 'kondom viagra'. Kondom ini bisa membuat ereksi lebih keras dan lama. Seperti dikutip dari Daily Mail, Selasa 10 Mei 2011, para desainer di balik peluncuran 'kondom viagra' ini mendapat masukan dari banyak pria. Mereka rata-rata mengeluh sulitnya mempertahankan ereksi bila mengenakan kondom ketika bercinta. Kondom yang bernama CSD500 ini memiliki gel khusus. Gel ini bisa memperbaiki dan memperlancar aliran darah ke penis. Umumnya gel tersebut dipakai untuk memperlancar aliran darah ke jantung. Pembuat kondom ini mengklaim pria yang memakai kondom ereksinya lebih keras dan kuat. Mereka juga tahan lebih lama ketika bercinta dengan pasangannya. Kondom CSD500 kemungkinan bisa dipasarkan pada tahun ini di Inggris. Kondom ini tengah menunggu persetujuan dari badan yang berwenang disahkan penjualannya. James Barder, dari Futura Medical yang membuat kondom, mengatakan kondom CSD500 bukan hanya untuk mereka yang punya masalah ereksi, tapi bagi mereka yang sering kecewa dengan kondom yang suka lepas ketika bercinta. DAILY MAIL | PGR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: helm (Satu lagi omongan Dipo yang memang sudah gila itu...)
Satu lagi omongan Dipo yang memang sudah gila itu.. Sekedar cuap-cuap njuk isi otaknya yang rusak dan sudah jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Mumpung lelaki Prancis dikenal romantis dan penakluk perempuan, Jusfiq lalu mentang-mentang. Bermodalkan paspor Prancis dia keliling pusat pertokoan obat tradisional Asia dengan maksud unjuk kepongahan seolah dirinya lebih penakluk dari Alain Delon. Juicefique (begitu nama yang tertulis di Paspor) berniat pura-pura atau pura-pura berniat beli kondom di setiap toko yang dia masuki. Penuh percaya diri dia menghampiri toko pertama milik orang Arab. Sang pemilik toko sedang bersih-bersih kaca etalase. Ngerti kan, kenapa toko Arab yang jadi sasaran pertamanya... Ada jual kondom? tanyanya sambil mengipas-ngipas paspor di tangan kiri dan tangan kanan menimang-nimang anunya. Pongah sekali. Si Arab mendelik. Dia menjawab dengan gugup, Ti..ti..ti..tidak ada mister...!? si Arab bersiap-siap menutup lagi tokonya. Nah lho, gawat betul tu ukuran kalo orang Arab aja sampe gemeter... Juicefique bersiul-siul bangga meninggalkan toko orang Arab sambil melihat-lihat toko yang lain. Kemudian dia masuk ke sebuah toko yang pemiliknya orang Cina. Bertanya lagilah si Juicefique, Ada jual kondom?! sambil mengipas-ngipas paspor dan menimang-nimang anunya. Si penjaga toko dengan terbata-bata berkata, Haiya..ukulan segitu..tak ada la di sini..haiya...!?? Lagi, Juicefique dengan bangga meninggalkan toko. Begitu terus kelakuan Juicefique di setiap toko obat yang dia lalui. Sampai terlihatlah oleh Juicefique toko obat milik orang Indonesia. Bergegas dia menghampiri dan masuk. Di dalam cuma ada penjaga toko yang tampaknya dari Korea. Si pemilik kebetulan sedang merapikan gudang. Lebih dari yang sudah-sudah kali ini Juicefique super pongah, memutar-mutar anunya sambil dikipas-kipas dengan paspor, seolah anunya berputar karena kesaktian paspor keluaran Prancis. Bertanya dia pada Korea penjaga toko, Heh! Di sini jual kondom?! Berusaha tenang penjaga toko berkata, Tunggu sebentar...majikan saya lagi di belakang. Dengan tangkas penjaga toko memencet interkom dan memberi tahu majikannya ada pembeli istimewa mau beli kondom. Aneh, soal kondom aja si pembantu tidak bisa atasi, pikir Indonesia. Tak berapa lama pemilik toko yang orang Indonesia muncul. Melihat Juicefique sekilas dan pahamlah dia kenapa pembantunya bingung. Dengan santai dia lalu berkata kepada pembantunya, Kim.. tolong kasih dia helm sikat gigi.. Si pembantu kontan ngakak sepuasnya sambil klojotan di lante. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] France24: Libyan govt denies report of Gaddafi wounding
Libyan govt denies report of Gaddafi wounding By News Wires the 13/05/2011 - 17:35 Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi is probably wounded and likely not in Tripoli, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini (pictured right) has told reporters in Tuscany. The Libyan government immediately denied the report. REUTERS - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has very likely left the capital Tripoli and has most likely been wounded, Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said on Friday. A Libyan government spokesman denied that Gaddafi had been wounded. Frattini told reporters that he believed what he had been told by Giovanni Innocenzo Martinelli, the Catholic bishop in Tripoli, that Gaddafi was most probably outside Tripoli and probably even wounded by NATO airstrikes. I tend to give credence to the comment of the bishop of Tripoli, Monsignor Martinelli, who has been in close contact over recent weeks, when he told us that Gaddafi is very probably outside Tripoli and is probably also wounded. We don't know It's nonsense, Libyan government spokesman Mussa Ibrahim said in Tripoli. The leader is in high morale. He's in good spirits. He is leading the country day by day. He hasn't been harmed at all. Contacted from Rome, Martinelli's office said he had left the Libyan capital for Tunis. As the Vatican's top official in Tripoli, Martinelli has been in contact with Gaddafi's entourage. The Italian prelate joined a Muslim cleric in blessing the bodies of Gaddafi's youngest son and three grandchildren who were killed in a NATO raid on April 30. Since the start of the NATO operation, Martinelli has been highly outspoken and critical of the military strikes, saying that many civilians had been killed. Source URL: http://www.france24.com/en/20110513-gaddafi-wounded-italy-frattini-libya-denies Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Major militant attacks in Pakistan since 2007 By The Associated Press Posted: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT Updated: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT A look at some of the major attacks in Pakistan in recent years: 2011: May 13: A pair of Taliban suicide bombers attack paramilitary police recruits in Shabqadar, killing 80 in retaliation for the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden. 2010: Nov. 5: A suicide bomber strikes a Sunni mosque in Darra Adam Khel in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 67 during Friday prayers. Sept. 1: A triple Taliban suicide attack on a Shiite Muslim procession kills 65 in the southwestern city of Quetta. July 9: A pair of suicide bombers kills 102 people in the Mohmand tribal region. July 2: Twin suicide bombers attack Pakistan's most revered Sufi shrine in the eastern city of Lahore, killing 47 people. May 29: Two militant squads armed with hand grenades, suicide vests and assault rifles attack two mosques of the Ahmadi minority sect in Lahore, killing 97. March 13: Two suicide bombers targeting army vehicles in Lahore kill more than 55 people. Jan. 1: A suicide bomber drives a truckload of explosives into a volleyball field in Lakki Marwat district in the northwest, killing at least 97 people. 2009: Dec. 28: Bomb blast kills at least 44 at a Shiite procession in southern city of Karachi. Dec. 7: Two bombs kill 48 at a market in eastern city of Lahore, while a suicide bomber kills 10 people outside a Peshawar court. Advertisement Oct. 9: Suicide car bomb in busy market area in Peshawar kills 53. May 27: A suicide car bomber targets police and intelligence offices in the eastern city of Lahore, killing about 30 people. March 27: A suicide bomber demolishes a packed mosque near the northwestern town of Jamrud, killing about 50. March 3: Gunmen attack the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore, wounding several of the players and killing six policemen and a driver. 2008 Sept. 20: A suicide truck bomb kills at least 54 as it devastates the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. Aug. 21: Suicide bombers blow themselves up at two gates of a weapons factory in the town of Wah, killing at least 67 people. 2007 Dec. 27: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and 20 other people are killed in a suicide bombing and shooting attack in Rawalpindi. Oct. 18: Suicide bombing aimed at Bhutto kills some 150 people in Karachi during celebrations welcoming her home from self-exile. July 3-11: An eight-day standoff between security forces and militants inside the compound of the Red Mosque, or Lal Masjid, kills 102 people. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Islam itu, sekarang ini, adalah ikon kebiadaban dan kebengisan... Bagusnya orang Arab di Timur Tengah dan Afrika Utara sekarang ini sedang menuntut demokrasi, freedom, keadilan serta lowongan kerja dan bukan syariah... Syariah, dengnkata lain Islam, sedang karam, sedang dipurukkan oleh kecerdasan manusia dan kemajuan ilmu pengetahuan... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Major militant attacks in Pakistan since 2007 By The Associated Press Posted: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT Updated: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT A look at some of the major attacks in Pakistan in recent years: 2011: May 13: A pair of Taliban suicide bombers attack paramilitary police recruits in Shabqadar, killing 80 in retaliation for the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden. 2010: Nov. 5: A suicide bomber strikes a Sunni mosque in Darra Adam Khel in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 67 during Friday prayers. Sept. 1: A triple Taliban suicide attack on a Shiite Muslim procession kills 65 in the southwestern city of Quetta. July 9: A pair of suicide bombers kills 102 people in the Mohmand tribal region. July 2: Twin suicide bombers attack Pakistan's most revered Sufi shrine in the eastern city of Lahore, killing 47 people. May 29: Two militant squads armed with hand grenades, suicide vests and assault rifles attack two mosques of the Ahmadi minority sect in Lahore, killing 97. March 13: Two suicide bombers targeting army vehicles in Lahore kill more than 55 people. Jan. 1: A suicide bomber drives a truckload of explosives into a volleyball field in Lakki Marwat district in the northwest, killing at least 97 people. 2009: Dec. 28: Bomb blast kills at least 44 at a Shiite procession in southern city of Karachi. Dec. 7: Two bombs kill 48 at a market in eastern city of Lahore, while a suicide bomber kills 10 people outside a Peshawar court. Advertisement Oct. 9: Suicide car bomb in busy market area in Peshawar kills 53. May 27: A suicide car bomber targets police and intelligence offices in the eastern city of Lahore, killing about 30 people. March 27: A suicide bomber demolishes a packed mosque near the northwestern town of Jamrud, killing about 50. March 3: Gunmen attack the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore, wounding several of the players and killing six policemen and a driver. 2008 Sept. 20: A suicide truck bomb kills at least 54 as it devastates the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. Aug. 21: Suicide bombers blow themselves up at two gates of a weapons factory in the town of Wah, killing at least 67 people. 2007 Dec. 27: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and 20 other people are killed in a suicide bombing and shooting attack in Rawalpindi. Oct. 18: Suicide bombing aimed at Bhutto kills some 150 people in Karachi during celebrations welcoming her home from self-exile. July 3-11: An eight-day standoff between security forces and militants inside the compound of the Red Mosque, or Lal Masjid, kills 102 people. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Sampai kapan IBLIS menuntut nyawa dan darah manusia??? sampai kapan pembunuh dan pendusta (pencuci-otak dan mengaku-tuhan) ini bertahan di planet ini?? kasihan kau Pakistan, Mesir, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yordania, Sudan ... tempat2 yang pernah disemai bibit kebenaran dan perdamaian, ketika Isa dan pengikutnya berkunjung dan diterima di sana. Tetapi sekarang menjadi tempat keterbelakangan dan pembantaian manusia, tahta IBLIS yang tidak rela sistem kekuasaannya di planet ini diruntuhkan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Major militant attacks in Pakistan since 2007 By The Associated Press Posted: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT Updated: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT A look at some of the major attacks in Pakistan in recent years: 2011: May 13: A pair of Taliban suicide bombers attack paramilitary police recruits in Shabqadar, killing 80 in retaliation for the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden. 2010: Nov. 5: A suicide bomber strikes a Sunni mosque in Darra Adam Khel in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 67 during Friday prayers. Sept. 1: A triple Taliban suicide attack on a Shiite Muslim procession kills 65 in the southwestern city of Quetta. July 9: A pair of suicide bombers kills 102 people in the Mohmand tribal region. July 2: Twin suicide bombers attack Pakistan's most revered Sufi shrine in the eastern city of Lahore, killing 47 people. May 29: Two militant squads armed with hand grenades, suicide vests and assault rifles attack two mosques of the Ahmadi minority sect in Lahore, killing 97. March 13: Two suicide bombers targeting army vehicles in Lahore kill more than 55 people. Jan. 1: A suicide bomber drives a truckload of explosives into a volleyball field in Lakki Marwat district in the northwest, killing at least 97 people. 2009: Dec. 28: Bomb blast kills at least 44 at a Shiite procession in southern city of Karachi. Dec. 7: Two bombs kill 48 at a market in eastern city of Lahore, while a suicide bomber kills 10 people outside a Peshawar court. Advertisement Oct. 9: Suicide car bomb in busy market area in Peshawar kills 53. May 27: A suicide car bomber targets police and intelligence offices in the eastern city of Lahore, killing about 30 people. March 27: A suicide bomber demolishes a packed mosque near the northwestern town of Jamrud, killing about 50. March 3: Gunmen attack the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore, wounding several of the players and killing six policemen and a driver. 2008 Sept. 20: A suicide truck bomb kills at least 54 as it devastates the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. Aug. 21: Suicide bombers blow themselves up at two gates of a weapons factory in the town of Wah, killing at least 67 people. 2007 Dec. 27: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and 20 other people are killed in a suicide bombing and shooting attack in Rawalpindi. Oct. 18: Suicide bombing aimed at Bhutto kills some 150 people in Karachi during celebrations welcoming her home from self-exile. July 3-11: An eight-day standoff between security forces and militants inside the compound of the Red Mosque, or Lal Masjid, kills 102 people. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Dan jangan lupa: kasihan Indonesia yang juga disatroni oleh pengikut agama taik anjng Islam yang ajarannnya bukan saja dungu, tapi juga buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas buas lagi biadab... Ingat bom yang meledakdi Bali, di Jakarta dll. dan inga pula minoritas seperti pengikut agama Nasrani dan Jemaah Ahmadiyah yang ditindas dan dibunuhi... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Sampai kapan IBLIS menuntut nyawa dan darah manusia??? sampai kapan pembunuh dan pendusta (pencuci-otak dan mengaku-tuhan) ini bertahan di planet ini?? kasihan kau Pakistan, Mesir, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yordania, Sudan ... tempat2 yang pernah disemai bibit kebenaran dan perdamaian, ketika Isa dan pengikutnya berkunjung dan diterima di sana. Tetapi sekarang menjadi tempat keterbelakangan dan pembantaian manusia, tahta IBLIS yang tidak rela sistem kekuasaannya di planet ini diruntuhkan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Major militant attacks in Pakistan since 2007 By The Associated Press Posted: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT Updated: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT A look at some of the major attacks in Pakistan in recent years: 2011: May 13: A pair of Taliban suicide bombers attack paramilitary police recruits in Shabqadar, killing 80 in retaliation for the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden. 2010: Nov. 5: A suicide bomber strikes a Sunni mosque in Darra Adam Khel in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 67 during Friday prayers. Sept. 1: A triple Taliban suicide attack on a Shiite Muslim procession kills 65 in the southwestern city of Quetta. July 9: A pair of suicide bombers kills 102 people in the Mohmand tribal region. July 2: Twin suicide bombers attack Pakistan's most revered Sufi shrine in the eastern city of Lahore, killing 47 people. May 29: Two militant squads armed with hand grenades, suicide vests and assault rifles attack two mosques of the Ahmadi minority sect in Lahore, killing 97. March 13: Two suicide bombers targeting army vehicles in Lahore kill more than 55 people. Jan. 1: A suicide bomber drives a truckload of explosives into a volleyball field in Lakki Marwat district in the northwest, killing at least 97 people. 2009: Dec. 28: Bomb blast kills at least 44 at a Shiite procession in southern city of Karachi. Dec. 7: Two bombs kill 48 at a market in eastern city of Lahore, while a suicide bomber kills 10 people outside a Peshawar court. Advertisement Oct. 9: Suicide car bomb in busy market area in Peshawar kills 53. May 27: A suicide car bomber targets police and intelligence offices in the eastern city of Lahore, killing about 30 people. March 27: A suicide bomber demolishes a packed mosque near the northwestern town of Jamrud, killing about 50. March 3: Gunmen attack the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore, wounding several of the players and killing six policemen and a driver. 2008 Sept. 20: A suicide truck bomb kills at least 54 as it devastates the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. Aug. 21: Suicide bombers blow themselves up at two gates of a weapons factory in the town of Wah, killing at least 67 people. 2007 Dec. 27: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and 20 other people are killed in a suicide bombing and shooting attack in Rawalpindi. Oct. 18: Suicide bombing aimed at Bhutto kills some 150 people in Karachi during celebrations welcoming her home from self-exile. July 3-11: An eight-day standoff between security forces and militants inside the compound of the Red Mosque, or Lal Masjid, kills 102 people. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Aku berkabung untuk kau, Alexandria, Philadelphia (=Amman), Antioch dan Damaskus, Jerusalem, Cyrene, Pakistan Kashmir dan lembah Hindus, Afghanistan, Mesopotamia, Persia, bahkan lembah Nil dan Asia Minor serta Konstantinopel. Negeri2 yang indah dan aman ketika Isa datang dan diterima di sana... Mengapa sekarang tidak ada yang mendoakan mereka??? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Sampai kapan IBLIS menuntut nyawa dan darah manusia??? sampai kapan pembunuh dan pendusta (pencuci-otak dan mengaku-tuhan) ini bertahan di planet ini?? kasihan kau Pakistan, Mesir, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Yordania, Sudan ... tempat2 yang pernah disemai bibit kebenaran dan perdamaian, ketika Isa dan pengikutnya berkunjung dan diterima di sana. Tetapi sekarang menjadi tempat keterbelakangan dan pembantaian manusia, tahta IBLIS yang tidak rela sistem kekuasaannya di planet ini diruntuhkan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Major militant attacks in Pakistan since 2007 By The Associated Press Posted: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT Updated: 05/13/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT A look at some of the major attacks in Pakistan in recent years: 2011: May 13: A pair of Taliban suicide bombers attack paramilitary police recruits in Shabqadar, killing 80 in retaliation for the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden. 2010: Nov. 5: A suicide bomber strikes a Sunni mosque in Darra Adam Khel in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 67 during Friday prayers. Sept. 1: A triple Taliban suicide attack on a Shiite Muslim procession kills 65 in the southwestern city of Quetta. July 9: A pair of suicide bombers kills 102 people in the Mohmand tribal region. July 2: Twin suicide bombers attack Pakistan's most revered Sufi shrine in the eastern city of Lahore, killing 47 people. May 29: Two militant squads armed with hand grenades, suicide vests and assault rifles attack two mosques of the Ahmadi minority sect in Lahore, killing 97. March 13: Two suicide bombers targeting army vehicles in Lahore kill more than 55 people. Jan. 1: A suicide bomber drives a truckload of explosives into a volleyball field in Lakki Marwat district in the northwest, killing at least 97 people. 2009: Dec. 28: Bomb blast kills at least 44 at a Shiite procession in southern city of Karachi. Dec. 7: Two bombs kill 48 at a market in eastern city of Lahore, while a suicide bomber kills 10 people outside a Peshawar court. Advertisement Oct. 9: Suicide car bomb in busy market area in Peshawar kills 53. May 27: A suicide car bomber targets police and intelligence offices in the eastern city of Lahore, killing about 30 people. March 27: A suicide bomber demolishes a packed mosque near the northwestern town of Jamrud, killing about 50. March 3: Gunmen attack the Sri Lankan national cricket team in Lahore, wounding several of the players and killing six policemen and a driver. 2008 Sept. 20: A suicide truck bomb kills at least 54 as it devastates the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad. Aug. 21: Suicide bombers blow themselves up at two gates of a weapons factory in the town of Wah, killing at least 67 people. 2007 Dec. 27: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and 20 other people are killed in a suicide bombing and shooting attack in Rawalpindi. Oct. 18: Suicide bombing aimed at Bhutto kills some 150 people in Karachi during celebrations welcoming her home from self-exile. July 3-11: An eight-day standoff between security forces and militants inside the compound of the Red Mosque, or Lal Masjid, kills 102 people. Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] PRESTASINYA PENGIKUT MUHAMMAD SAW
Ya, kenapa? Kenapa si uplik yang begitu semangat susah-payah ikut ribut-ribut 2 kali di topik ini nggak dapet perhatian dari dunia??? Kesian. Jadi loper lagi dah si uplik.. --- pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote: Aku berkabung untuk kau, Alexandria, Philadelphia (=Amman), Antioch dan Damaskus, Jerusalem, Cyrene, Pakistan Kashmir dan lembah Hindus, Afghanistan, Mesopotamia, Persia, bahkan lembah Nil dan Asia Minor serta Konstantinopel. Negeri2 yang indah dan aman ketika Isa datang dan diterima di sana... Mengapa sekarang tidak ada yang mendoakan mereka??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: PRESTASINYA (Satu lagi omongan sedeng Dipo yang gila ...)
Satu lagi omongan sedeng Dipo yang memang gila... Karena saya mengomentari posting pemerhatidunia yang bersambung, dia bertanya-tanya apakah karena saya nggak dapet perhatian dari dunia??? Keadaan orang ini betul-betul sudah gawat. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, ajeg ajegilelu@... wrote: Ya, kenapa? Kenapa si uplik yang begitu semangat susah-payah ikut ribut-ribut 2 kali di topik ini nggak dapet perhatian dari dunia??? Kesian. Jadi loper lagi dah si uplik.. --- pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote: Aku berkabung untuk kau, Alexandria, Philadelphia (=Amman), Antioch dan Damaskus, Jerusalem, Cyrene, Pakistan Kashmir dan lembah Hindus, Afghanistan, Mesopotamia, Persia, bahkan lembah Nil dan Asia Minor serta Konstantinopel. Negeri2 yang indah dan aman ketika Isa datang dan diterima di sana... Mengapa sekarang tidak ada yang mendoakan mereka??? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: Protesters, security forces clash in Syria
Lihat videonya: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/13/syria.unrest/index.html?hpt=T1 Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] CNN: Protesters, security forces clash in Syria
Lihat videonya: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/13/syria.unrest/index.html?hpt=T1 CNN.com Protesters, security forces clash in Syria (CNN) -- Demonstrators hurling rocks and security forces firing tear gas clashed Friday in a Syrian city, the latest expression of unrest amid a nationwide wave of anti-government rage. The fighting took place in Hama, a western city where the government suppressed an uprising by Sunni Muslims in 1982, and there were also demonstrations in the western city of Homs. Protesters have taken to the streets every Friday recently after the weekly Muslim prayers, and security forces were deployed in force to greet the turnouts. A U.N. official says that as many as 850 people may have died since protests began in mid-March, but there were no immediate reports of casualties on Friday. Activists have labeled this The Friday of Free Syrian Women, a commemoration of those females rallying for freedom and a remembrance of those who have been slain. This is history, said activist Wissam Tarif, executive director of the human rights group Insan. This is a new Middle East, those are the people, the young people of the country standing up saying, 'We want to live with dignity, we want freedom and we want prosperity and we can do it. ' We have the capacity and we have the knowledge and we can do it. And we have an obstacle: the obstacles are oppression, are the regimes and the Syrian people are now standing up and saying it. In Hama, thousands of demonstrators rallied for the end of the Bashar al-Assad regime and chanted anti-government slogans, two witnesses said. Security forces responded by firing tear gas at the crowds while the protesters threw stones at the forces. One of the witnesses said demonstrators tore down a large picture of al-Assad on a government building, and security forces beat protesters with sticks. The Baathist government of Hafez al-Assad, Bashar's late father who once ruled Syria, crushed a revolt in Hama decades ago against the Sunnis, who are the majority religious group in Syria. Estimates put the death toll anywhere between 10,000 and 30,000 people, though the exact number was never known. The government has been dominated by the al-Assad family's Alawite community, a minority religious group that's an offshoot of Shiite Islam. The memory of the fierce government action in 1982 is alive among protesters defying the regime. One eyewitness in Homs, a retired teacher and a political activist, said a few thousand people demonstrated in the Bab Sebaa neighborhood after Friday prayers. He said security fired into the air to disperse protesters. He also saw a smaller demonstration in the Bab Amr district. Videos of purported marches in Idlib, Homs, and Daraa also surfaced on Friday. The government has been clamping down on street demonstrations over the past two months in Daraa, Homs, Banias and other cities, and deadly clashes have erupted during anti-government protests, in which citizens have denounced the lack of political freedom. The regime has blamed armed groups for the violence and has reported the deaths of security personnel. But the demonstrators, emboldened by the tough crackdown and the mass anti-government rallies in other Arab nations this year, have blamed the killings on the government. The number killed in clashes with government forces has been put by various human rights groups at between 700 and 850, according to Rupert Colville, a spokesman for the U.N. Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. Colville said thousands of arrests have been reported, including the detentions of many Syrian opposition leaders and activists. Two activists, Najati Tayara and Rayzan Zaytouni, were arrested this week. We cannot verify these numbers for sure, but believe they are likely to be close to reality, Colville told reporters during a briefing in Geneva, Switzerland. Syria said many people have been arrested in what it calls riots. On Friday, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency quoted an Interior Ministry official as saying that more than 5,077 people had turned themselves in to authorities and were freed after pledging not to repeat any act(s) that harm security of the homeland and citizens. The ministry had earlier urged those who were misled into participating in or committing unlawful acts punishable by law to turn themselves in before Friday and inform about saboteurs and terrorists and the whereabouts of weapons. Those who do will be exempted from punishment and the legal consequences and prosecutions, the report said. The Syrian regime has drawn international condemnation for its fierce reaction to peaceful demonstrations. Demonstrations spread Wednesday to Aleppo University, where an activist said security personnel and pro-government forces roughed up demonstrations. The U.N. human rights agency expressed concern over the shelling of the Bab Amr district
Re: [proletar] Re: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,
sssh, jangan dipanas2in. nanti komputer-nya ditendang, jadi rusak lagi deh. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM, rezameutia rezameu...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@... wrote: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... tuh kan.., dari sulu udah dikasih tau kalo lagi on-line jangan stoned. dasar junkie nggak bisa dibilangin sih... btw, emangnya diapain tuh komp bisa sampe rusak gitu? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] CNN: Protesters, security forces clash in Syria
Liga Arab dan OIC tidak minta Syria dibom? - Original Message - From: Jusfiq To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: [proletar] CNN: Protesters, security forces clash in Syria Lihat videonya: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/13/syria.unrest/index.html?hpt=T1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [proletar] Rupanya Dari sini ide si item memfitnah nabi
Betul kejam maka oleh karena itu di negeri-negeri Arab rakyat berontak mau demokrasi. - Original Message - From: PAREWA To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: [proletar] Rupanya Dari sini ide si item memfitnah nabi Perintah ini sungguh kejam, biadab lagi sadis Bunuh orang kafir dan musyrik !! (Ulangan 13:6-9) Cungkil mata yang menyesatkan orang untuk berbuat dosa (Matius 5:-29) Potong kaki dan tangan orang yang menyesatkan ke arah dosa (Matius l8:8-9) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Masyarakat Yordania Anggap Indonesia Negara Miskin
Refleksi : Bukan hal aneh bin ajaib apabila masyarakat Yordania menganggap Indonesia negara, karena mereka melihat puluhan bahkan ratusan ribu, karena pekerjaan yang dilakukan dimata masyarakat dinilai rendah, istilah kasarnya babu dan jongos. Anggapan ini bukan saja di Yordania, tetapi banyak negeri, teristimewa negeri-negeri yang disebut oleh pemerintah Indonesia, negeri-negeri sahabat [Timur Tengah]. Umumnya orang miskin itu rendah dan hina, maka oleh karena itu mereka disana sebut bagar dan hamal. Bila jumlah penderita TBC sesuatu negeri tinggi angkanya, hal ini menunjukan negeri miskin, Faktor-faktor yng berpengaruh antara lain: kekurangan gizi, masalah higenis (kkekurang air besih dan kesehatan lingkungan) dan pelayanan kesehatan kepada rakyat tidak adekwat. http://www.vivaborneo.com/masyarakat-yordania-anggap-indonesia-negara-miskin.htm Masyarakat Yordania Anggap Indonesia Negara Miskin May 12, 2011 by admin SAMARINDA - vivaborneo.com - Duta Besar (Dubes) Indonesia untuk Yordania Zainulbahar Noor mengatakan mayoritas masyarakat Yordania menganggap Negara Indonesia hanyalah sebuah Negara miskin yang hanya bisa mengirim Pembantu Rumah Tangga (PRT). Hal ini dikarenakan banyaknya Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (TKI) yang mayoritas bekerja sebagai pembantu rumah tangga yang memiliki pendidikan dan keterampilan rendah. Karena dianggap sebagai Negara pembantu, maka Indoensia hanya dikenal sebagai Negara miskin, kumuh, dan tidak memiliki sumber daya alam dan kelebihan-kelebihan lainnya. Pandangan inilah yang harus kita ubah dengan memberikan pemahaman yang lebih baik tentang Indonesia, ujarnya. Zainul menjelaskan bahwa saat ini Pemerintah Indonesia memberlakukan moratorium pengiriman Tenaga Kerja sejak 29 Juli 2009. Namun, akibat dari moratorium ini, banyak Tenaga Kerja Indonesia (TKI) yang datang ke Yordania secara illegal. Tenaga kerja ilegal inilah yang banyak menjadi sumber masalah. Betapa tidak, dengan pendidikan dan keterampilan yang rendah, seluruh dokumen kerja mereka sebagian besar palsu dan banyak yang tidak mendapat upah layak. Upah tenaga kerja di Timur Tengah khususnya Yordania itu paling rendah, karena hanya sebesar US 125 dolar per bulan dan banyak yang tidak dibayar karena illegal. Upah yang lebih tinggi untuk TKI yang berasal dari Hongkong, Korea Selatan dan Tokyo yang mencapai US 500 dolar, jelasnya. Lanjut Zainul, diperkirakannya saat ini ada 50-60 ribu TKI illegal yang berada di Yordania. Selain dianggap sebagai pengekspor TKI dengan pendidikan dan keterampilan rendah, tenaga kerja Indonesia juga dianggap sebagai pembawa penyakit Tuberculosis (TBC). Ini yang menyakitkan, TKI kita juga dianggap sebagai pembawa penyakit TBC karena dokumen kesehatan yang dibawa oleh para TKI illegal, umumnya dipalsukan. Semua dibilang sehat, padahal tidak melalui pemeriksaan kesehatan yang semestinya, tegasnya.(vb/yul) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,(Udah kawin dungunya tetep aja sama...
Ni orang udah kawin dungunya tetep aja sama... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Leo Susanto leosusanto@... wrote: sssh, jangan dipanas2in. nanti komputer-nya ditendang, jadi rusak lagi deh. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... tuh kan.., dari sulu udah dikasih tau kalo lagi on-line jangan stoned. dasar junkie nggak bisa dibilangin sih... btw, emangnya diapain tuh komp bisa sampe rusak gitu? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[proletar] Re: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi,,,,,(Udah kawin dungunya tetep aja sama...
Ni orang udah kawin dungunya tetep aja sama dari dulu... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Leo Susanto leosusanto@... wrote: sssh, jangan dipanas2in. nanti komputer-nya ditendang, jadi rusak lagi deh. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:01 AM, rezameutia rezameutia@... wrote: --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Jusfiq kesayangan.allah@ wrote: Sialan, komputer saya rusak lagi. Baru selesai diperbaiki hari ini... tuh kan.., dari sulu udah dikasih tau kalo lagi on-line jangan stoned. dasar junkie nggak bisa dibilangin sih... btw, emangnya diapain tuh komp bisa sampe rusak gitu? Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
