Re: Aligning Vocals

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Have a listen to this link. You’ll see what I’m talking about it happened in 
the first or second phrase. It’s like she rushed it’s just a little bit. Other 
things that happened that were wrong in the project we’re just because it was 
the second multi track project that I had ever tried to record mix and finalize 
in my life. This is a link in dropbox generated by me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/50fq13sam7i9c5m/Forever.mp3?dl=0

J. R.



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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 22:17, J. R. Westmoreland  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> The last project I tried the elastic audio with for vocals was highly 
> unsuccessful. I tried it myself and even had someone else cited try it and 
> all it did was make the problem worse. I had a situation where the vocal was 
> about an eighth of a beat or thereabouts off it was enough that you could 
> hear it by ear but not so significant that it ruined the entire song. It was 
> for a class project I was doing and I finally just gave up and the instructor 
> Finally told me that it was close enough and I had already made the a grade 
> for the class. So, at that point I just threw up my hands and said forget it. 
> In fact, it was the instructor who is the sighted person who tried to do it 
> and since he was a proctor for the exams I figured you probably really knew 
> what he was doing and if it didn’t work after he fought with it for a couple 
> of hours I figured I certainly is an office user was not going to make it 
> work and you better.
> 
> I don’t know if that helps but I figured I’d at least put in a couple of 
> pennies worth.
> 
> J. R.
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 17:44, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> You could conceivably use Elastic Audio but, in my opinion, it's clunky. 
>> X-Form works a lot more smoothly. Macros are in the Drop Box. VocALign 
>> Project is more basic, not too many options and somewhat cheaper. VocALign 
>> Pro offers a bit more flexibility, somewhat better results and is a bit more 
>> expensive. Looking out for SynchroArts sales is a good idea.
>> HTH,
>> slau
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Alex Coleman  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Slau. Two things:
>>> 1. Where can I find instructions on how to time-stretch a clip or
>>> section of a clip? Would that be via Elastic Audio?
>>> 2. Where can I acquire the macros for VocALign Pro, and is there a
>>> difference between Pro and Project?
>>> Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 4/18/20, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>>> A course of action would surely be determine by how close or how far out of
>>>> sync the vocal performances might be. One can usually do quite a bit with
>>>> some pure editing. However, plug-ins like VocALign Pro and VocALign Project
>>>> do a great job. they're not accessible out of the box but I've created a
>>>> series of free macros for each that make them very accessible.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Alex Coleman 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> One more question, if I may:
>>>>> What is the best technique for aligning (phrasing) multiple vocal
>>>>> tracks, for example, a lead part and two supporting harmony parts,
>>>>> when each singer is not cutting off at the same time or just singing
>>>>> out-of-sync with the other vocals, etc.?
>>>>> Should I be trying to stretch audio clips to make syllables line up?
>>>>> If so, how can I do this with the keyboard?
>>>>> Or, should I be using a 3rd-party plugin? I seem to remember something
>>>>> on-list about ReVoice, but am not sure if that is accessible or the
>>>>> recommended tool for voiceover users.
>>>>> Thanks again for any clarification and tips anyone might be able to
>>>>> share.
>>>>> AC
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Re: Aligning Vocals

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi everyone,

The last project I tried the elastic audio with for vocals was highly 
unsuccessful. I tried it myself and even had someone else cited try it and all 
it did was make the problem worse. I had a situation where the vocal was about 
an eighth of a beat or thereabouts off it was enough that you could hear it by 
ear but not so significant that it ruined the entire song. It was for a class 
project I was doing and I finally just gave up and the instructor Finally told 
me that it was close enough and I had already made the a grade for the class. 
So, at that point I just threw up my hands and said forget it. In fact, it was 
the instructor who is the sighted person who tried to do it and since he was a 
proctor for the exams I figured you probably really knew what he was doing and 
if it didn’t work after he fought with it for a couple of hours I figured I 
certainly is an office user was not going to make it work and you better.

I don’t know if that helps but I figured I’d at least put in a couple of 
pennies worth.

J. R.

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 17:44, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> You could conceivably use Elastic Audio but, in my opinion, it's clunky. 
> X-Form works a lot more smoothly. Macros are in the Drop Box. VocALign 
> Project is more basic, not too many options and somewhat cheaper. VocALign 
> Pro offers a bit more flexibility, somewhat better results and is a bit more 
> expensive. Looking out for SynchroArts sales is a good idea.
> HTH,
> slau
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:06 PM, Alex Coleman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Slau. Two things:
>> 1. Where can I find instructions on how to time-stretch a clip or
>> section of a clip? Would that be via Elastic Audio?
>> 2. Where can I acquire the macros for VocALign Pro, and is there a
>> difference between Pro and Project?
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/18/20, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> A course of action would surely be determine by how close or how far out of
>>> sync the vocal performances might be. One can usually do quite a bit with
>>> some pure editing. However, plug-ins like VocALign Pro and VocALign Project
>>> do a great job. they're not accessible out of the box but I've created a
>>> series of free macros for each that make them very accessible.
>>> HTH,
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Alex Coleman 
 wrote:
 
 One more question, if I may:
 What is the best technique for aligning (phrasing) multiple vocal
 tracks, for example, a lead part and two supporting harmony parts,
 when each singer is not cutting off at the same time or just singing
 out-of-sync with the other vocals, etc.?
 Should I be trying to stretch audio clips to make syllables line up?
 If so, how can I do this with the keyboard?
 Or, should I be using a 3rd-party plugin? I seem to remember something
 on-list about ReVoice, but am not sure if that is accessible or the
 recommended tool for voiceover users.
 Thanks again for any clarification and tips anyone might be able to
 share.
 AC
 
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Re: ProTools Dock for iPad

[J. R. Westmoreland]

When I took my PT class I tried an early  version of this application. I was 
able to make it work. Was it perfect? Not fully. I could make it do most things 
but they were lots slower than using a mixing surface. For the sighted people 
in my class, they loved it. It worked well enough that they were able to do the 
projects assigned in the PT101 and PT110 classes.

I will have to reload PT on my Mac and the iPad and see what it does.

Just my two cents worth.

J. R.



> On Dec 15, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Awe, dang! I was really hoping there! Dad gummit! LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: ProTools Dock for iPad
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> I believe the Dock app is specifically designed to help interface the iPad 
> with the Pro Tools Dock, a hardware controller that includes transport and 
> scrub wheel along with several other dedicated buttons. I'm not sure that it 
> offers any benefit without the hardware surface.
> Slau
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Peter Bosher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> In the PT Application Manager today I noticed a new app for the iPad called 
>> ProTools Dock, which seems to allow the iPad to work as a controller.  Has 
>> anyone tried this, or does anyone have an iPad to test for accessibility?
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
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Re: audio player for mac

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I would agree. I use VLC Media Player.
It also appears to work well for video as well.

J. R.



> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned last time this question was brought up, I strongly suggest VLC.
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> - Original Message - From: "Steve Sparrow" 
> To: "'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 9:23 PM
> Subject: audio player for mac
> 
> 
> Hi guys. i know this is a bit off topic, but i’m looking for a good music 
> player for the mac. something to basically play mp3 files, wav files m 4 a 
> and other things. iTunes is fine, and sounds great. but personaly i find the 
> interface a bit annoying at times. The other thing that annoys me with iTunes 
> is the fact that you seem to have to import the files in to iTunes to be able 
> to play things. I don’t know how many windows users are on here, but 
> something similar  to win amp or windows media player would be what i’m 
> after. I used to use VLC but it’s been very glitchy lately with some mp3 
> files. So is there anything else out there for mac to do this work that is 
> accessible.
> Cheers
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Re: Would really like to talk to ProTools users who have braille displays

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have several displays that are mine and use them all the time.
I’m happy to talk with you via Skype or phone.
Contact me off list at j...@jrw.org  and we can exchange 
data for the rest.

J. R.



> On Oct 16, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Guys, this subject has briefly come up a time or two, though it's been 
> discussed in only very little detail from what I can see.
>  
> Recently, I was very very fortunate to be given an Alva Satelite Pro 584 80 
> cell display. Yes, you heard right, donated! Don't ask. It was offered, and I 
> took it before the person could change their mind. LOL!
>  
> Anyway, so, I'm curious. Be it this display, or another one, doesn't matter, 
> for those of you who own displays, be it stand alones, or be it ones on a 
> note taker that you sometimes connect to yolur mac as a display, have you all 
> found really any benefits of using both braille as well as speech output?  
> Are there things you seem to be able to monitor or keep track of better with 
> having a display, that without one, you feel it would make your workflow ever 
> so slightly more difficult? Now that I have a display, and it's not one I'm 
> borrowing or one that the state could take back or anything, this thing's 
> mine forever, I'd really like to know how I could maybe put it to use in my 
> music production, if at all.
>  
> I'm thinking about seeing if Hadley  School has a braille music corse, but 
> that's a whole different topic.
>  
> Anyway, like I said, I'd be extremely interested in talking with any of you 
> either on list, off list, via phone, via Skype, e-mail, however you all see 
> fit. I would just like to see how far I could maybe take this with my display 
> to further enhance things, if at all.  Or, on the contrary, do you all find 
> that braille with PT more slows you down?
>  
> Let me know.
>  
> Chris.
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Re: accessible iLok License Manager is now available for download

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Anyone have multiple iloc keys? I have 2 attached to my account and that is 
where The issue seems to be coming from.

J. R.



> On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Well, folks, it's finally here. Go to iLok.com to download version 2.6 which 
> is fully accessible on the Mac.
> I've done an audio quick start guide which was recorded a few days ago. I'll 
> be recording a new one with some updated information and corrections but this 
> version is still pretty much 99% accurate. You can grab it from the following 
> link:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/iLok%20License%20Manager%20v2.6%20Quick%20Start%20Guide%20for%20VoiceOver%20Users.m4a
> 
> I'll post some more information shortly.
> 
> Slau
> 
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RE: accessible iLok License Manager is now available for download

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Slau,

You are a gentleman indeed. Thanks again for your help I'm very greatful to 
have things working correctly. 

J. R.


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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:40 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: accessible iLok License Manager is now available for download

Well, folks, it's finally here. Go to iLok.com to download version 2.6 which is 
fully accessible on the Mac.
I've done an audio quick start guide which was recorded a few days ago. I'll be 
recording a new one with some updated information and corrections but this 
version is still pretty much 99% accurate. You can grab it from the following 
link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/iLok%20License%20Manager%20v2.6%20Quick%20Start%20Guide%20for%20VoiceOver%20Users.m4a

I'll post some more information shortly.

Slau


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Re: accessible iLok License Manager is now available for download

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I’m not feeling really fuzzy and happy over this accessible application.

I uninstalled the old LM and installed the new one.
I open the tool, login, and see that I have 7 licenses. Okay I buy that I think.
I have yet to be able to find a place where I can see all the licenses that I 
have. It says I have the newest one sale\\\selected. It also seems to tell me 
that the key I have put\gged in is assigned to another account and that the key 
it thinks is assigned to this account is not online.
If I login to the web site I see both keys for my account.

Finally, the application seems to crash a log. 

Ideas, suggestions, etc?

Thanks,
J. R.



> On Nov 10, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Well, folks, it's finally here. Go to iLok.com to download version 2.6 which 
> is fully accessible on the Mac.
> I've done an audio quick start guide which was recorded a few days ago. I'll 
> be recording a new one with some updated information and corrections but this 
> version is still pretty much 99% accurate. You can grab it from the following 
> link:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3016244/iLok%20License%20Manager%20v2.6%20Quick%20Start%20Guide%20for%20VoiceOver%20Users.m4a
> 
> I'll post some more information shortly.
> 
> Slau
> 
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Re: Bohemian Rhapsody?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

It appears to have been pretty well pulled from the net. I found it on a 
BitTorrent but only as a Audacity project.
I can’t remember, Can they be imported into Pro Tools?

J. R.



> On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> The Bohemian Rhapsody multitracks have been circulating for at least a 
> decade. Google is your friend.
> 
> On Aug 28, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  > wrote:
> 
>> How do I get the Bohemian Rhapsody session for PT12?  By the way Slau makes 
>> it sound in his recording, it's something we all should have.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
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Accessible ILOK License Manager?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I’m finally getting around to installing my PT12. Yes, I know I’m behind the 
times but you know how that stuff goes sometimes.

I’m going to install on Yosemite since I recall seeing that El Capitan isn’t 
supported yet? Next, I saw something about the ILOK license manager and an 
accessible version of the app? Is it possible to get it and where? 

Thanks for the answers etc.

Best,
J. R.



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RE: Some notes regarding Pro Tools 11 and El Capitan.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

More affordable upgrade path for users? I'm all over that one. Three cheers. LOL

J. R.



-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Reeves
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:27 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some notes regarding Pro Tools 11 and El Capitan.

Pro Tools has always had a history of supporting the most current OS with at 
least 1 prier version. Even though they were at 11, they still released a few 
incremental 10 versions that supported latest OS and had a few other bug fixes.

This may not be the case with 12, as they are moving to a more affordable 
upgrade path for users.

Kevin



On 9/26/2015 1:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Why would they still be making betas for version 11, when they're up 
> to 12.3.  Did I miss something here?  To my sense of logic, no pun 
> intended, that doesn't make sense.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Some notes regarding Pro Tools 11 and El Capitan.
>
>
> Oh, I just re-read the subject line and you seem to be using version 
> 11. I'm not surprised that there are issues. Most beta users are using 
> version 12 and probably don't experience as many issues with OS betas.
> That said, there are still version 11 betas that come down the pike, 
> although they're much fewer these days. I haven't seen one for a 
> couple of months. I wonder whether version 11 will ever support El 
> Capitan.
>
> Slau
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 4:40 AM, Kevin Reeves  wrote:
>
>> Hey folks.
>> I upgraded one of my machines to the El Capitan Beta.
>> As a rule, I never upgrade a mission critical machine to a beta or 
>> release that is not yet documented to work with Pro Tools, or other 
>> mission critical software.
>> However, it came to my attention that El Capitan was much snappier in 
>> regards to voiceover performance, and I desperately needed that kind 
>> of speed, as the latest version of Mavericks was laggy and throwing 
>> up busy signals left and right.
>> With all of that said, I upgraded knowing full well that Pro Tools 
>> could break, and I have a laptop capable of letting me get all of my 
>> work done, if that were to happen.
>> Well, allow me to warn you, El Capitan breaks pro tools in some weird 
>> ways that will put you at work stoppage.
>>
>> 1. Importing audio gives you this error.
>> Could not complete the Import Audio command because Assertion in 
>> "/Volumes/Development/151228/ProTools/NewFileLibs/Cfd/MacBuild/../Mac
>> OS/Cfd_ImportAudioDialogMacOS.mm",
>> line 559.
>> 2. You can not arm tracks with either the mouse, voiceover commands, 
>> or using the Shift R command while in the tracks list.
>> 3. You can not instantiate any plugs what so ever. When you press 
>> enter, VO space, VO Shift space, or mouse click on any plug.
>> When you return to the mix window after performing any of these 
>> actions, the slot you tried to put the plug on remains empty.
>>
>> I skimmed a thread on the DUC, and others were having the problem 
>> with importing audio, while others were reporting no problems at all.
>> So, YMMV, but you have been severely warned.
>>
>> None of the above findings are complaints, whines, etc. I knew full 
>> well that this could happen, and have a backup machine to start using 
>> immediately.
>> I just want to let you all know what the deal is.
>> I’m sure avid will release a compatibility update soon, and I imagine 
>> that this is potentially old news to the beta team. I just thought 
>> you all should know.
>>
>> Kevin
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Midi Editor in current PT release

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Good morning everyone

I'm asking this question because a friend and I were having a discussion and I 
thought I'd recalled that Avid had fixed the issue in the current release.
Is the Midi Editor accessible now? Or, have I mis-remembered? The later item 
wouldn't be the first time. lOL

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Re: OT: Recording pregnant woman

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Most of the ultrasound devices today have even an output jack that you could 
probably tap into to get the sound.
If they want to charge you for a trip to the Lab for such a thing then try 
contacting a local Midwife or Doula to see if they have a device and might be 
willing to do it for you.

J. R.



On Jun 9, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hiya all,
 I know this is pretty off topic so I'm sorry, but google has turned up 
 nothing.
 
 My sister is pregnant, and would like to get a home recording of her baby's 
 heart beat.
 
 We tried simply putting a mic hard against her abdomen, but aside from 
 getting an ear full of her latest meal, there was no baby noise.
 
 Is there a way with non medical kit (specifically a Rode NT1-A and Pro 
 Tools), to capture a passable recording of baby?
 
 Cheers, and sorry again for the off topicness.
 
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PT11.1 question

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I just downloaded my free PT11.1 and I'm wondering why the installed is so
small? The others have been a couple gb in size and this one is 900mb.

It lists as an upgrade. Do I have to install PT11.0 first?

 

J. R.

 

 

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RE: my post on the Avid blog

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Slau

 

Great post. It is a wonderful summary of the advances made by Avid and blind
users of Pro Tools in audio production.

 

After spending the last several months as the accessibility programming
engineer, and a blind software engineer at that, I've found that there are a
number of ways to make some graphic information accessible if you have
access to the data that drives that graphic. Granted, much of this is part
of iOS but I suspect that some or maybe even all of it could be done with OS
x. 

 

I won't bore the whole list with some of the technical details that I have
used and have also found pointers for on the net and from Apple but if you
like we could talk about it off list and maybe this could point some of the
engineering staff at Avid down a few new paths.

 

I have been dragging my feet on the upgrade, even though it is free to me,
for a number of reasons the biggest of which is time to play with it. Now
that I have graduated with a shiny new BS in Computer Science it is time to
look into ways I can now apply the knowledge I have gained.

 

Thanks again for a well written post and insight into the use of Pro Tools
by blind and visually impaired professional audio engineers.

 

Best,

J. R. Westmoreland

 

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:00 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: my post on the Avid blog

 

As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid
blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this
afternoon at:

http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-
audio-professionals/

Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely
chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were
several photos in the post which are not included below.

 

 

I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five
Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early
training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape
machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had
certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade
earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 

During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation
(DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that
led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I
sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a
waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice
quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted.

I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class
with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as
inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years
earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my
vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile:
mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time
I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence
of this glowed from a VGA before me-everything, all under one roof, one box.
Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I
know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its
accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.

After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New
York City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the
analog multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual
tracks slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became
more difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio.
LCD displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear
became tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro
Tools, using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without
having to look at the screen. 

With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the
digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of
blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the
program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved
to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not
that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with
aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips
crapping out in the middle of a session.

 

Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new
OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software
available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued

RE: Mac Mini VS Macbook Pro Retina

[J. R. Westmoreland]

My iMac does a great job but I mostly use it for mixing, editing and the
like where portability isn't an issue.

J. R.



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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:41 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mac Mini VS Macbook Pro Retina

Yep, for those who want an all-in-one solution without the need for quick
portability, the iMacs are certainly a good choice these days.

Slau

On May 8, 2014, at 8:49 AM, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:

 don't forget the iMacs, Some bang for bucks can be had in the desktop
configuration space there.
 On May 8, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I seem to remember hearing that the Mini Server edition did not play
nicely with Pro Tools. I'd just be careful about looking into that for
anyone considering that route.
 
 Slau
 
 On May 8, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Ashley ashleycox...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 SO do I, generally... If I went the mini route, I'd definitely be
upgrading the ram myself. As for SSD's; apple are charging £160 for a single
256GB ssd, which isn't far off everywhere else. For 2 of them, however, they
want £480... work that one out.
 
 If it were just 1 SSD, I'd go with apple's; beats taking the logic board
out, and besides if you have a non apple SSD with OSX, you must install trim
enabler - and run it every time you do an update, which would become
annoying. There's a special bracket required to put 2 drives in a mini -
it's not, unfortunately, a standard thing in every mini; only certain
configurations!
 
 Ashley
 
 On 08/05/2014 12:43, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Ah, who designed that! Apple are missing an obvious configuration 
 there. Had no idea that was the case as I generally pick up parts 
 and upgrade after purchase to save a few quid.
 
 Good luck with the new machine. May she be speedy.
 
 Scott
 
 On 5/8/14, Ashley ashleycox...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Thanks Scott, Nick and Slau - it looks like I'll probably forget 
 the mini, as it's a little behind in terms of technology.
 
 I was considering a mac mini server; however, I wanted an SSD. If 
 you add an SSD to a server, you don't get the extra 1TB hard drive 
 in addition - the choices are either:
 2 1TB drives
 1 SSD
 2 SSD's
 For the price of apple's 2 SSD's I could buy a thunderbolt drive. 
 It's a shame; a server mini with an SSD and a 1TB drive would be
perfect.
 
 However; what I ultimately need is speed; and the macbook pro will 
 give me more of that than the mini.
 
 
 On 08/05/2014 03:21, Scott Chesworth wrote:
 Since you said you preferred desktops, if you do go the Mac Mini 
 route, look into the Mac Mini server line.
 
 On 5/7/14, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:
 Hi, I would go with the mac book pro as you can take it with you 
 and have editing abilities on the road.  That is why I bought my 
 mac book pro for just this reason.  Nick Gawronski On 5/7/2014 
 3:17 PM, Ashley wrote:
 Hey all,
 What are your thoughts on the below machines:
 Mac mini. 2.6GHZ Ivybridge Core I7 quad core CPU. 16GB ram, 256GB
SSD.
 vs...
 Macbook pro, retina, 15. 2.6GHZ Haswell I7. 16GB ram. 1TB 
 PCE-Based Flash
 
 I'd like a decent machine for ProTools. I do like desktop 
 machines; but if the macbook pro would be considerably faster, 
 I'll use a laptop. Drive space isn't a consideration.
 
 Thoughts?
 Thanks
 Ashley
 
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RE: Clearing solo for all tracks.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I use it all the time for VMWare to make it work correctly with JAWS. It
appears to work fine. But once in a while I get a funny thing where the
arrow keys, only under Windows, don't work right and it requires a reboot.
With a very fast Mac Book and a big SSD even that isn't too troublesome. LOL

J. R.




-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 5:00 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.

I stopped using Key Remap because I believe I was having compatibility
issues with my MBP Retina. I wonder how the other new machines are fairing.
Frankly, while the frequency of updates to it are annoying, one would think
that it's because he's keeping up with new developments and models and yet
the other part of me thinks he just makes a lot of mistakes he needs to fix
on a regular basis ;)

Slau

On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Just FYI, there is a workaround for getting modifiers through until 
 VoiceOver supports it. If you install KeyRemap4MacBook, it's possible 
 to have a key combo trigger a mouse click. Unlike the standard VO 
 keystroke, modifiers do get passed along with it this way. I usually 
 use F/N+Space.
 
 Hth someone
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 1/10/14, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 This discussion is a good illustration of why control surfaces are 
 practically a necessity. Many have dedicated solo clear buttons not 
 to mention the solo buttons themselves which can quickly be turned on or
off.
 Anyway, always good to know multiple ways of getting to the same 
 result. Too bad VoiceOver doesn't support modified clicks yet. I've 
 been suggesting that for some time. Maybe some day but, for now, yes, 
 routing the pointer and clicking a physical mouse or track pad with the
modifier is the way to go.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 10, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I will try that Matt. For safe solo, it would make mixing much 
 easier when I get a high track count of instruments that I want to 
 bus and have to rename each instrument track by track because the 
 client baught that music and it is just labeled with the producers 
 name rather than the instrument for that track.
 - Original Message - From: matt diemert 
 mcdiem...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Clearing solo for all tracks.
 
 
 Poppa, As far as I'm able to tell, the only way to solo safe a 
 track is to physically click the solo button in track strip while 
 holding down command. In other words, when I'm on the solo button, 
 I press voiceover command f5 to bring mouse focus to the button, 
 and while holding down command, click on my mouse.
 
 In regards to the other question, I typically keep my solo on xhor 
 so that my solo follows what ever track is selected, if I need to 
 sol up ultiple things I make my selection across those tracks first 
 then solo.
 Hope this helps.
 
 On 1/10/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't want to highjack your post, but I am wondering something 
 about soloing as well, is there a shortcut key command to put 
 tracks on safe solo mode?
 - Original Message -
 From: studiojay
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:42 PM
 Subject: Clearing solo for all tracks.
 
 
 Hi everyone, is there a way to clear solos for all tracks in a 
 session?
 Some times, I may have a track soloed and I can't remember which 
 track it is especially in large sessions and the soloed track may 
 not be playing at the posision in the session I am currently 
 playing. I have to go through each track to find the soloed track. 
 Thanks in advance for any help. Jason
 
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Re: FYI Pro Tools 11.1 is now available.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Very neat. I have to look into this. That is, if I can keep my iPad behaving 
correctly. I tried using an app whose name I don't remember right now with an 
older version of PT and it worked a bit but not as well as I'd hoped.
Thanks Gordon, this is great news. We love that braille, yes?

Best,
J. R.


On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:

 This is good news.  I was actually playing around a bit last night with the 
 pro remote app for the iphone and pt10.  It does give you a lot of stuff and 
 you can do things like mix automation and select regions and run the 
 transport.  I haven’t figured out how to get at inserts and sends in the mix 
 view yet.  I should try it on the iPad instead because it would fit a lot 
 more at once.  You can run four instances of it to handle 32 tracks at once.  
 If I could get it to take the whole screen on the iPad i imagine I could get 
 at a lot of stuff.  You do get values for everything, and PT responds quickly 
 to your commands.  It’s a bit quirky getting it to connect to your wifi 
 network sometimes but once it is on it works wherever you go.  I want to try 
 it with braille so that I can do vocals and stuff with no speech going.
 Gord
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As many of you will recall, I practically threw in the towel a couple of 
 months ago. As it turned out, there were programmers turning wheels without 
 my knowledge. When I was made aware of this, frankly, it was a bit of a 
 surprise. Actually, there are things in the works now that will bring even 
 more improvements in the next release. I'm not supposed to say yet but, if 
 all goes according to plan, I believe the next two releases will bring us to 
 as close as full access as we can get. Very exciting times.
 
 slau
 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is great, thanks to all who have been behind the seens to continue to 
 carry this torch mile after mile, and big thanks to Slau who has put in 
 only God knows how much energy to keep this on the board as a extremely 
 viable option for blind producers and musicians.
 - Original Message -
 From: Slau Halatyn
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM
 Subject: Re: FYI Pro Tools 11.1 is now available.
 
 The fixes mentioned sound pretty obscure when they're worded in that 
 fashion but, for what it's worth, there are a ton of fixes not the least of 
 which is access to plug-ins unlike that which we had in the past. I'd love 
 to list all of the improvements but there are so many that it would be 
 difficult.
 
 Best,
 
 Slau
 
 On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:55 AM, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Also, for those interested 10.3.8 was released Monday as well.
 Grabbing it now to determine if there are any useful upgrades. I
 ordered my pt 11 Upgrade just now, but have to wait until eye balls
 are around for iLock purposes!
 
 
 On 12/27/13, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 That's pretty amazing.
 
 I'll be tapping that when I've got another mac! :-)
 
 Have fun all, and hope you all had a merry christmas etc.
 
 On 27/12/2013 14:42, matt diemert wrote:
 Here is a list of accessibility fixes that I found on a forum.
 Certainly not saying this is exhaustive, but It's all I've been able
 to track down thus far!
 ◾PTSW-184656: AudioSuite window now includes Plug-In name.
 ◾PTSW-180095: Added Applescript support for the “Save Session Copy”
 command.
 ◾PTSW-180085: Improved support for Nudge values with the VoiceOver
 accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180084: Improved support for memory locations with the VoiceOver
 accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180083: Improved support for the Click II plug-in with the
 VoiceOver accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180082: Improved support for Memory Locations with the VoiceOver
 accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180080: Improved support for window configurations with the
 VoiceOver accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-189731: Improved support for track selector, preset selection,
 and automation controls from within plug-in windows with the VoiceOver
 accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180081: Improved support for Delete Unused Playlist dialogs with
 the VoiceOver accessibility option in OSX.
 ◾PTSW-180078: Improved support for Beat Detective with the VoiceOver
 accessibility option in OSX
 
 
 On 12/27/13, Dread Beat Dadz dreadbeatd...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is the update with the accessibility improvements. I have not 
 gotten
 a
 
 chance to play around with it extensively, but at first glance it does
 seem
 
 to be more accessible than 11.0.3. The update was release on 12/23/2013.
 
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RE: FYI Pro Tools 11.1 is now available.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Gordon

 

I can’t find the app on the app store. Is it there? What is the exact name?

 

J. R.

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon Kent
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 2:33 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FYI Pro Tools 11.1 is now available.

 

Yeah, I thik it may have potential.  There’s just so much stuff around now to 
play around with that it’s hard to cover all of it and still get real work 
done.  I’ll have to bring the iPad over to the studio and install the app on it 
to give it a try.  I have a focus 40 blue that I can pair up the ipad to.  THe 
tricky thing is that I’ll have to remember to turn blue tooth off on the mac 
then.  I could use the braille note but it doesn’t have the whiz wheels and all 
the navigation stuff the focus has.  I have that real little one, the braille 
pen, that is only 12 characters but does have a nifty joy stick but I thik the 
40 character display is the way to go.

Gord

On Dec 28, 2013, at 3:16 AM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote:





Very neat. I have to look into this. That is, if I can keep my iPad behaving 
correctly. I tried using an app whose name I don't remember right now with an 
older version of PT and it worked a bit but not as well as I'd hoped.

Thanks Gordon, this is great news. We love that braille, yes?

 

Best,

J. R.

 

 

On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:





This is good news.  I was actually playing around a bit last night with the pro 
remote app for the iphone and pt10.  It does give you a lot of stuff and you 
can do things like mix automation and select regions and run the transport.  I 
haven’t figured out how to get at inserts and sends in the mix view yet.  I 
should try it on the iPad instead because it would fit a lot more at once.  You 
can run four instances of it to handle 32 tracks at once.  If I could get it to 
take the whole screen on the iPad i imagine I could get at a lot of stuff.  You 
do get values for everything, and PT responds quickly to your commands.  It’s a 
bit quirky getting it to connect to your wifi network sometimes but once it is 
on it works wherever you go.  I want to try it with braille so that I can do 
vocals and stuff with no speech going.

Gord

On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:





As many of you will recall, I practically threw in the towel a couple of months 
ago. As it turned out, there were programmers turning wheels without my 
knowledge. When I was made aware of this, frankly, it was a bit of a surprise. 
Actually, there are things in the works now that will bring even more 
improvements in the next release. I'm not supposed to say yet but, if all goes 
according to plan, I believe the next two releases will bring us to as close as 
full access as we can get. Very exciting times.

 

slau

 

On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:





This is great, thanks to all who have been behind the seens to continue to 
carry this torch mile after mile, and big thanks to Slau who has put in only 
God knows how much energy to keep this on the board as a extremely viable 
option for blind producers and musicians.

- Original Message -

From: Slau Halatyn mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com 

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 8:41 AM

Subject: Re: FYI Pro Tools 11.1 is now available.

 

The fixes mentioned sound pretty obscure when they're worded in that fashion 
but, for what it's worth, there are a ton of fixes not the least of which is 
access to plug-ins unlike that which we had in the past. I'd love to list all 
of the improvements but there are so many that it would be difficult.

 

Best,

 

Slau

 

On Dec 27, 2013, at 9:55 AM, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:





Also, for those interested 10.3.8 was released Monday as well.
Grabbing it now to determine if there are any useful upgrades. I
ordered my pt 11 Upgrade just now, but have to wait until eye balls
are around for iLock purposes!


On 12/27/13, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:



That's pretty amazing.

I'll be tapping that when I've got another mac! :-)

Have fun all, and hope you all had a merry christmas etc.

On 27/12/2013 14:42, matt diemert wrote:



Here is a list of accessibility fixes that I found on a forum.
Certainly not saying this is exhaustive, but It's all I've been able
to track down thus far!
◾PTSW-184656: AudioSuite window now includes Plug-In name.
◾PTSW-180095: Added Applescript support for the “Save Session Copy”
command.
◾PTSW-180085: Improved support for Nudge values with the VoiceOver
accessibility option in OSX.
◾PTSW-180084: Improved support for memory locations with the VoiceOver
accessibility option in OSX.
◾PTSW-180083: Improved support for the Click II plug-in with the
VoiceOver accessibility option in OSX.
◾PTSW-180082: Improved support for Memory Locations

RE: Time Compression/Expansion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Chuck

 

I used it in my class a year ago and as I recall I only had marginal
success. I would be interested in your observations when you finish playing
with it.

 

I really need to install PT on my new Mac Book Pro just for kicks. I haven't
carried my laptop PC since early March and have no plans to go back soon. J

 

J. R.

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:13 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Time Compression/Expansion

 

Hi List,

Just wondering if anybody has used Time Compression/Expansion with any
success yet?

If so How does voiceOver work with it?

I heard a demo of it being used and I am taking a deeper Look at using it.
:)

Short snip from the Audio Plug-Ins Guide.pdf.

Audio Plug-Ins Guide.pdf (page 95.

Chapter 18: Time Compression/Expansion

Time Compression/Expansion is a time-process- ing plug-in that comes in
AudioSuite format only.

The Time Compression/Expansion plug-in adjusts the duration of selected
regions, increasing or decreasing their length without changing pitch.

TIA

 

 

CHUCK REICHEL

soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com

www.SoundPictureRecording.com

954-742-0019

GUFFAWING :)

In GOD I Trust

 

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RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation
where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time
gun. LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

Krister,

I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the
control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have
recently researched this can contribute some suggestions.

As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd
say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not
under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend
it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one
track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not
working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's
probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a
moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations
without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing
whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.

Slau


On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have
to live with that. smiles.
 Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need
be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you
say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would
that at all be practical?
 /Krister
 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Krister,
 
 A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try
doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several
tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more
efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly
change multiple track volumes, etc.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
 
 Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
 Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for
protools.
 
 
 Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard
with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind
person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi
keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a
keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang
of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also
does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I
googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url
can't be found on this server message.
 Thanks for any answers.
 /Krister
 
 
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 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 
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RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

That is true. I have the command-8 and it doesn't have the scrub wheel. In
spite of all that it is still a very nice surface.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:04 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?

And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it
includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite
helpful.

Slau

On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:

 I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on
the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control
surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the
Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as
a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers.
You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores.
Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack.
 HTH
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn 
 slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
 
 
 Hey J. R.,
 
 Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, 
 there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
 
 I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the 
 situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have 
 been under the time gun. LOL
 
 J. R.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind
person?
 
 Krister,
 
 I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not 
 followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps 
 others who have recently researched this can contribute some
suggestions.
 
 As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind 
 user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients 
 and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but 
 I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited 
 to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine 
 working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting 
 in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. 
 Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader 
 gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without 
 a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing 
 whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of
course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way.
 
 Slau
 
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
 Hi Slau,
 Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess 
 you'll have
 to live with that. smiles.
 Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if 
 need
 be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what 
 would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record 
 and so on, would that at all be practical?
 /Krister
 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Krister,
 
 A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control
 surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible 
 to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to 
 mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be 
 able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, 
 unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc.
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote:
 
 Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt.
 Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your 
 intent for
 protools.
 
 
 Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple 
 keyboard
 with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a 
 blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? 
 Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that 
 too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm 
 still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me 
 for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the 
 Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a 
 link but it didn't work. I got a the requested url can't be found on
this server message.
 Thanks for any answers.
 /Krister
 
 
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 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please

RE: A new book on Pro Tools

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Nook format is pretty accessible the Kindle format still has a way to go to
be really usable. At least that is one man's opinion from watching the net
and doing a bit of playing with it. I have I-devices so would really prefer
it to be a iBook, which works best. But, I have the Nook reader and it works
pretty well. Of course they all suffer from being read by the synth voices.
LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Simone Corelli
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:19 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A new book on Pro Tools

Hi Trevor,
there's only the Kindle version.
Is it a problem? You can read it on all the devices including iPad, Mac and
Pc with a special free software.

Sent from my iPhone

On 18/dic/2012, at 10:06, trevor trevor.sco...@btopenworld.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Is there either a text or a PDF version of the book please.
 
 Thank you,
 Trevor

RE: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have a 2tb drive that is same specs and brand. I have been using it for a
couple of years and it is working great and very nice for editing. I can
record to my regular internal drive on the Mac Book Pro, which is also a
7200 WD drive, and it works fine. In fact, I used said setup last night to
record the Messiah in which my wife performed.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:49 AM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

Yes 4 GB ram will be fine for a start but if you can aford the 8 GB from the
start it will obviously be better. As I understand you are looking to get
the quad core mini with the 1 TB hard drive and 4 GB of ram and this will be
fine together with a 7200 RPM external firewire
800 drive. I only have experience with Seegate and western digital drives
and can highly recommend both. I would suggest rather getting a drive which
is spesifically only firewire 800, those combo things could be nice if using
the drive on different devices, but it often doesn't have the best quality
firewire chips and what you're looking for here is a quality drive with
quality firewire chips and you'll get the best quality from seagate or
western digital.

Cameron Strife wrote:
 Yeah, four gigs will be fine in the short term.

 Cameron.




 On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
  No, I will get the 7200 rbm, and I will get the i7 quad, no server.
  The problem now  the ram, the store refuse to take the 2 gb ram,so 
  If I will update my machine from 4 to 8, I will pay the money to 
  udate, and I will not sell my 2gb pieces.
  So, can't I work with 4 gb of ram?
 
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
  Msn and aim messengers:
  flutelo...@link.net
  Studio email:
  harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
  facebook profile:
  http://www.facebook.com/
  Twitter:
  moustafa.r...@gmail.com
  youtube chanael:
  www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:17 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?
 
  Hi. I've only had one of their drives and it worked fine for me.
  firewire 800 is your best option and if you got a mac mini server 
  edition, you've got one firewire 800 port available.
 
  What is the rpm of the hard drive you're looking at?
 
  Cameron.
 
 
 
 
  On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
  HI alL:
 
  I found a lacie hard disk, usb 2.0 fire wire 400 and 800 Is it 
  ok?
  What about this company, ok?
 
 
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
  Msn and aim messengers:
  flutelo...@link.net
  Studio email:
  harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
  facebook profile:
  http://www.facebook.com/
  Twitter:
  moustafa.r...@gmail.com
  youtube chanael:
  www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:14 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Using 1 hd for recording
 
  OSX server will work fine. its regular OSX with the server app also 
  included.  It no different from OSX other than the server app gives 
  you some more advanced administrative control if you want to use it 
  as a actual server. If you can afford the FUSION drives go for that 
  since the 7200RPM drives are no longer available. In the end 
  5400RPM drives will slow things down a little bit  when loading 
  stuff in and out memory, but its not impossible to use them 
  especially if you aren't ever gonna be using more than a few tracks 
  at a time. However if you can get a 7200RPM  external drive i'd 
  suggest getting one of those and using it as the recording
  drive.
  Fusion drives  will work  well sawwell, cuz as i understand it it's 
  keeps the most frequently used stuff in the sad part of the drive 
  so its gonna
  be
  like reading it off an SSD which is super fast. Also all mac mini's 
  have two drive bays in there so you can put in a second HD after 
  the fact if you feel comfortable with that. the only one sold with 
  two HD's are the mini server though as you said.
 
  On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Ramy Moustafa 
  moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Very great words, thanks so much
  No mac mini with 2 hard drives except the server one.
  It has 2 tp hard drives, and 8 gb of ram, but it has the osx 
  server Will it affect anything?
 
  Cheers:
  Ramy Moustafa
  If music be the food of love... play on.
  Mobile:
  0020102221750
  Personal email:
  ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com

RE: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

You are right about the badness of upgrading the new retina Mac Books. That
is why my new one will have 16gb of RAM from the get go. LOL It also has the
768gb SSD as well.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TheOreoMonster
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:26 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?

Just to point out most external hard rives you  buy are just a branded
interface with Western Digital  or Segate drives installed in them.  I think
those two companies are just about the only two companies left that still
actually manufacturer Hard drives anymore, there is a lot of rebranding
going on in that space. Also Ran is very easy to upgrade on most apple
computers minus the the new Retinas and macbook airs.. Especially on the
minis, iMacs and macbook pros.. 
On Dec 16, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Earlyer I couldn't remember the firewire chips to look out for. As I
 said the drives with USB and firewire is not nececeraly the best
 quality, except if you make sure that the external drive has a oxford
 bridge firewire chip. The drives with these oxford chips are usually a
 bit more expensive but it is highly recommended to get one of them
 especially if you will use a drive for recording where it constantly
 streems data back and forth. A firewire only drive with oxford chips
 or a firewire and USB combo with oxford chips would work fine, most
 manufacturers would state that their external drive has oxford chips,
 it would be stupid if they don't state it, because it's a sign of
 quality. Another option if you can't find the right external drive
 then make one up yourself or ask someone to help you. Buy a bair 1 TB
 or 2 TB 7200 RPM SATA drive and a firewire drive enclosure obviously
 with oxford chips, then incert the drive yourself.
 
 On Dec 16, 11:49 am, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes 4 GB ram will be fine for a start but if you can aford the 8 GB
 from the start it will obviously be better. As I understand you are
 looking to get the quad core mini with the 1 TB hard drive and 4 GB of
 ram and this will be fine together with a 7200 RPM external firewire
 800 drive. I only have experience with Seegate and western digital
 drives and can highly recommend both. I would suggest rather getting a
 drive which is spesifically only firewire 800, those combo things
 could be nice if using the drive on different devices, but it often
 doesn't have the best quality firewire chips and what you're looking
 for here is a quality drive with quality firewire chips and you'll get
 the best quality from seagate or western digital.
 
 
 
 Cameron Strife wrote:
 Yeah, four gigs will be fine in the short term.
 
 Cameron.
 
 On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, I will get the 7200 rbm, and I will get the i7 quad, no server.
 The problem now  the ram, the store refuse to take the 2 gb ram,so If I
 will
 update my machine from 4 to 8, I will pay the money to udate, and I
will
 not
 sell my 2gb pieces.
 So, can't I work with 4 gb of ram?
 
 Cheers:
 Ramy Moustafa
 If music be the food of love... play on.
 Mobile:
 0020102221750
 Personal email:
 ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
 Msn and aim messengers:
 flutelo...@link.net
 Studio email:
 harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
 facebook profile:
 http://www.facebook.com/
 Twitter:
 moustafa.r...@gmail.com
 youtube chanael:
 www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Cameron Strife
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:17 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Lacie hard drives, r they good?
 
 Hi. I've only had one of their drives and it worked fine for me.
 firewire 800 is your best option and if you got a mac mini server
 edition, you've got one firewire 800 port available.
 
 What is the rpm of the hard drive you're looking at?
 
 Cameron.
 
 On 12/16/12, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI alL:
 
 I found a lacie hard disk, usb 2.0 fire wire 400 and 800
 Is it ok?
 What about this company, ok?
 
 Cheers:
 Ramy Moustafa
 If music be the food of love... play on.
 Mobile:
 0020102221750
 Personal email:
 ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
 Msn and aim messengers:
 flutelo...@link.net
 Studio email:
 harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
 facebook profile:
 http://www.facebook.com/
 Twitter:
 moustafa.r...@gmail.com
 youtube chanael:
 www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of TheOreoMonster
 Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:14 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using 1 hd for recording
 
 OSX server will work fine. its regular OSX with the server app also
 included.  It no different from OSX other than the server app gives
you
 some
 more advanced administrative control if 

RE: Selecting Between Markers

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Slau,

Thanks for that one. I'm sure Kevin told me about that one but I didn't
write it down in my cheat sheet.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 7:12 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting Between Markers

Hey Jon,

Yep. Go to the first marker using the num pad then hold down the Shift key
while entering the second marker location of the num pad.

HTH,

Slau

On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Jon Solitro wrote:

 Is there a way to select the area between two markers? Such as, if Ive
marked the beginning and end of a verse with markers, is there a way to
select that area?

RE: Apple's initial response

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Well, as a programmer I think you might be right.

As an Apple developer, if they looked at my code and found accessibility
issues and that is what I was reporting then they would be within their
right to ask that either I fix the issues or show why I believe they aren't
causing the problem.

This really can be kindly passed along to all parties and ask that they
JOINTLY look at the issue and see what can be done.

Please be careful before categorically stating that one or the other party
has no responsibility. If they are responsible engineers they shouldn't
flatly state they aren't at fault and at least be willing to entertain the
idea of a joint look.

 

Has the inspector been used by Avid? If so, I'd hope they are aware of the
issues generated by the inspector and what they might mean and there
potential side effects.

 

Best,

J. R.

 

P. S. I'm just glad I kept my Lion partition around just to use with, yes we
will say it quietly, Pro Tools. It is the only thing still over there that
requires that partition. I have to do a recording for a concert in a few
weeks and while PT might be overkill it is still pretty good. grin

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Norman
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:16 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple's initial response

 

Well, the reason I mention Avid is simple. If Apple start looking at the
flood of reports about the same bug, all pertaining to Pro Tools, they'll do
what they've done already, and try and palm it off on Avid. If they continue
to get the bug returned to them, and the look into it, I'm sure they have
actual programmers who really understand the stuff this tool is telling me,
and what it's saying, is that Pro Tools isn't exactly squeaky clean. A few
accessibility descriptions here and there, and so it gives them more reason
to try and pass the book to Avid.

 

I have already emailed Apple about it, and as I previously said, got the
same response as Chris, and you Slau, and presumably everyone else who's
emailed them, but I don't think we should hold Apple soully responsible for
this problem, just because your friend, who is remaining nameless, told you
it's a bug on Apple's end. I have no clue about the stuff I'm seeing, but it
still can't hurt, if this information is packageable, to send it to Avid,
and point out that although most likely, the edit values are an Apple bug,
Pro Tools does have some accessibility flaws, which Apple will likely want
sorting before it'll even consider the possibility that it's largest piece
of software has a bug.

 

Cheers,


Take care,

Chris Norman

chris.norm...@googlemail.com

 

 

 

On 13 Nov 2012, at 22:06, Slau Halatyn wrote:





Please, forget about Avid. As I said several times, this has nothing to do
with them. Focus on Apple.

 

Thanks,

 

Slau

 

On Nov 13, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Chris Norman wrote:





OK, I found it, and I can happily examine the control. It seems to be
telling me it's a button, but then text area is mentioned too. Is there any
way to bundle up all the information I found, and send it off to Apple, and
/ or Avid for analysis?

 

Funnily enough, when I ran a full accessibility analysis of Pro Tools, the
only things that kicked off errors were the pan knobs having a press action,
and about 140 errors from what looked like Apple's own inputs menu.

 

Cheers,

 

Just downloading xCode on my Lion in


Take care,

Chris Norman

chris.norm...@googlemail.com

 

 

 

On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:54, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:





Man these people changed the whole structure again, so i have to look for
it.

 

Sometimes this company frustrates the hell out of me. 

 

 

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don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended recipient.
However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, honey pot open
relay servers or an honest mistake caused a transmission error, please
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On 14/11/2012, at 9:44 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com
wrote:





I have Xcode on my laptop. How would I do that?

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On 13 Nov 2012, at 20:40, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Scott,

 

I think you guys should try to pinpoint the issue ui elements with the
accessibility inspector that's bundled with x-code. At least you can see
what part of the interface has problems, and it even tells you whether the
axaccessibility api has been properly coded.

 

 

Cheers 

 

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RE: we need to email Apple about something

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Did it work with Lion? As I recall it did. Jusat wanted to make sure of all
the facts.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:49 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: we need to email Apple about something

Folks,

I've spoken with a few people regarding this issue and it appears that we
need to email accessibil...@apple.com to ensure its resolution.

The issue of counters in Pro Tools 10 not reading correctly under Mountain
Lion appears to be a VoiceOver issue rather than an issue with Pro Tools
itself. Not only are counters not being read but edit modes and tool
selections are not being indicated.

I encourage everybody to email accessibil...@apple.com identifying the
issue, explaining it and urging Apple to resolve it. Just so everybody's
straight with the details, here's the situation:

Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, Pro Tools' counter displays read fine but
under Mountain Lion, they're simply identified by labels like, Main
Counter, numeric text, Edit Start Time, numeric text, etc. Under Snow
Leopard and Leopard, edit modes and tool selections are spoken properly by
VoiceOver but, under Mountain Lion, there's no way to tell what edit mode is
selected or which tool is selected.

We know that a programmer at Avid followed Apple's own guidelines and we
know that the exact same version of Pro Tools behaves fine under snow
Leopard and Leopard but not so under Mountain Lion.

Please feel free to elucidate these facts in your own words and email
accessibil...@apple.com and urge them to look into it.

Thanks,

Slau

RE: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML

[J. R. Westmoreland]

. Beta testing is something entirely
different. Hopefully, that explains that.
 
 You might think I have a negative attitude about the whole thing but I
certainly don't. I'm optimistic. Otherwise, I wouldn't be flying out to San
francisco next month to meet with folks at Avid. To be clear, while I'm
optimistic, I also have a realistic outlook on the situation and I know that
there's a long road ahead. There always will be, always.

[J. R. W.] I can't agree with you more. My experience while a bit
frustrating was on the whole a great success. Will I take the tests? Yes I
probably will. It will require some more study on my part but I'm willing to
do that to get to the goal.
 
 Any successful audio professional will tell you, if you're thinking of
audio as a profession, be prepared to sacrifice a lot because it's one of
the most difficult fields to be in. It's competitive and it involves long
hours, sometimes little pay and you should only be in it if you feel that
there's nothing else you can see yourself doing in life. For a blind person,
that statement should carry all that much more weight because it's doubly
difficult. Let's be clear about something, there are blind musicians who
just want to record their own songs and they want to do it in Pro Tools.
There are blind audio engineers who have been trained to work in an industry
where, currently, Pro Tools just happens to be a ubiquitous tool. Both
deserve access, of course, but to those for whom it's a matter of their
livelihood, it's especially urgent, naturally. Believe me, I fall squarely
into both camps so I can appreciate all sides of any argument.

[J. R. W.] Unfortunately, I'm not a musician but I understand their side of
the issue. I just like to take what they have done and help them make
something really great.
 
 I get the impression that you feel that Avid have not done enough. Yes,
it's not enough for us. It never will be. I do hope and I do believe the
work will continue but, you know what? If it doesn't, I'll cross that bridge
when I get to it. we'll all be crossing it in one way or another. It's the
same story blind musicians and engineers have faced for decades and the
wheels will continue to turn.

[J. R. W.] I don't think I'd go quite that far. I'm pleased at the progress
that Avid has made. As a rule their customer service, front line, support
have been great people to work with. That is also part of the reason that I
have been willing to pay the fairly significant upgrade cost for Pro Tools.
I'm a software engineer myself and I fully understand what development costs
can be. Having said that I am in that case I guess a lover of audio
production rather than one who would spend, at least at this point, my life
doing that battle. I want to learn to do this well enough that I can help a
few people I know to produce a great audio project.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 4, 2012, at 8:31 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:
 
 Specifically I'm thinking of items that are in their course ware and 
 can't be done by visually impaired users.
 This is not a kick at the few people I know who test with PT. I'm 
 pointing the finger at Avid specifically. I feel that their beta 
 program goes out of its way to exclude some valuable input from 
 students in particular who are learning the system and would have 
 some input that might help them in the realm of usability. Working 
 through some of the exercises in the course I found that they loved 
 to have you work with some of the really showy items, elastic audio, 
 warping audio, pencil fitting, etc. These items are completely 
 inaccessible and I believe there should be some way that we as visually
impaired users of the product can do the equivalent things.
 
 Having said all that I also wonder if they might not benefit from 
 some input on the testing program so the tests might be more 
 accessible. I have an instructor who is willing to proctor the tests 
 for me and make the accommodations necessary to take them but he will 
 have to do some significant adjusting of the tests in a few places. 
 Unfortunately he is only able to do the testing for PT101 and PT110. 
 If I were to want to proceed further I'm not sure what could be done.
 
 As Mark put it, if you were to go to a studio and have a 
 certification they would be much more willing to allow you to do 
 things yourself. Also, having that cert could assist you in getting a 
 potential job even as an entry level. For example, if I were to call 
 you and say I would like to use your facilities to do a project and 
 had that certification you'd feel much more comfortable in allowing 
 me to do it. It would make you feel confident in my ability to not damage
your facility.
 
 I would really like to see the certification process work for those 
 who are visually impaired as well as the rest of the world.
 
 If I had the money to do so I'd have Kevin or someone like him fly 
 here and go through the labs together working with Mark to adjust 
 where

RE: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hmmm. Maybe that is why some things don't fall to the top of the list? If
you are an expert you find ways around the problems so you can get your work
done. It's like when I use a screen reader. If I have used it for a long
time I find myself not reporting some things as bugs that others who are
newer to the product find very annoying. Is there rightness on both sides of
the question? Or course there is.

Fortunately, there is this list where we as NON-EXPERTS can pick the brains
of those who have used the product for many years and usually benefit from
the workarounds they have found. So I will be quiet for now before Kefin
calls me on the phone and tells me to be quiet and stop making trouble. LOL

Back on my head in the homework pile.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:18 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML

Pro Tools beta is like fight club. Nobody talks about pro tools beta the
same way nobody talks about fight club. And with that, I'm gonna shut up
before someone decides to take me deep see fishing with some shackles and
brick boots. Lol.

Kevin


On Sep 1, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

 Chris,
 
 Avid uses a pool of beta testers who have been using Pro Tools for years
and years and who would generally be considered experts in the use of the
program.
 
 On Aug 31, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 Slau, I didn't mean specifically beta testing for Voiceover performance,
I meant more just for beta testing P T in general.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML
 
 
 Chris,
 
 It's not clear yet but there's probably something about how ML is reading
the window class of the given controls. Again, until it's certified, we
don't know what changes will take place in Pro Tools that might affect how
things are read. We'll cross that bridge soon. To answer your other
question, Avid is not looking for beta testers for VoiceOver.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 
 What I'd like to know is exactly what in the first place, supported or
not would cause it not to read in one O S, while it does in another.  Is it
how Voiceover actually handles rendering things?  I guess what I mean is, is
it most likely an issue of Voiceover not reading correctly, or is it more an
issue of something changed in ml that caused those meters through the PT
side of things to need to be recoded.  Maybe kind of a stupid question, and
being no one on here probably has access to the O S X source code nor the PT
source code, I'm sure probably that none of us really exactly know.  or...
do we?...
 
 Kind a makes you wonder if Avid is looking for Beta testers, who could
from a blind perspective run the alphas of P T... obviously not on a
production machine, and be able to test things.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 

RE: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Specifically I'm thinking of items that are in their course ware and can't
be done by visually impaired users.
This is not a kick at the few people I know who test with PT. I'm pointing
the finger at Avid specifically. I feel that their beta program goes out of
its way to exclude some valuable input from students in particular who are
learning the system and would have some input that might help them in the
realm of usability. Working through some of the exercises in the course I
found that they loved to have you work with some of the really showy items,
elastic audio, warping audio, pencil fitting, etc. These items are
completely inaccessible and I believe there should be some way that we as
visually impaired users of the product can do the equivalent things. 

Having said all that I also wonder if they might not benefit from some input
on the testing program so the tests might be more accessible. I have an
instructor who is willing to proctor the tests for me and make the
accommodations necessary to take them but he will have to do some
significant adjusting of the tests in a few places. Unfortunately he is only
able to do the testing for PT101 and PT110. If I were to want to proceed
further I'm not sure what could be done.

As Mark put it, if you were to go to a studio and have a certification they
would be much more willing to allow you to do things yourself. Also, having
that cert could assist you in getting a potential job even as an entry
level. For example, if I were to call you and say I would like to use your
facilities to do a project and had that certification you'd feel much more
comfortable in allowing me to do it. It would make you feel confident in my
ability to not damage your facility.

I would really like to see the certification process work for those who are
visually impaired as well as the rest of the world. 

If I had the money to do so I'd have Kevin or someone like him fly here and
go through the labs together working with Mark to adjust where necessary to
make a final class that would produce a successful testing experience. I
believe that at that point the class could be taken back to Avid and they
would be willing to incorporate it in their curriculum.

I'm trying to write quickly so I hope it makes some sense.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:29 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML


On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:09 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:

 Hmmm. Maybe that is why some things don't fall to the top of the list? 

J. R., what specifically are you referring to that hasn't fallen to the top
of the list?

slau

RE: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML

[J. R. Westmoreland]

One other thing.

I made it through the labs but there were places where Mark had to just say
let me describe what I'm doing and click it since there isn't a way I can
see to help you do it independently. He personally really understands since
he has to use screen magnification to work with the product himself.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:29 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another problem with Pro Tools and ML


On Sep 4, 2012, at 7:09 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:

 Hmmm. Maybe that is why some things don't fall to the top of the list? 

J. R., what specifically are you referring to that hasn't fallen to the top
of the list?

slau

RE: Is anyone interested in doing this?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

A list might be a bit of overkill for this. Just handle it as a reply-all
function and add people to your mailing as necessary.
I'd love to play with it on my mixing surface.

Back in school for hopefully the term in which I will have the first degree
my AAS CS. So, I will have to play with it around the stufy times. grin

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Norman
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:12 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Is anyone interested in doing this?

I'd love to take part. Perhaps take it off list, and get another list
started? Promises to be a lot of fun. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Aug 2012, at 23:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
wrote:

 OK, let me start by saying, this is *NOT!* a contest, nor! has this got
any prise assicated with it.  NO one's gonna do this for money, or anything
of the like.  This is gonna be just a bunch of us blind individuals getting
together and doing something we love... recording/playing/mixing, in one of
the best DAWS out there... ProTools, just for the fun of doing it.  I'm
thinking of taking the song, The Rose, by Bette Middler, and doing the piano
part of it.  Then, what I'll do, is provide you all a direct link on Dropbox
to the zipped file of the PT session.  It will have nothing but piano only.
I'd then like to see what you all can do with it.  Maybe have one person put
down a base guitar line, have someone put down a drum part, maybe someone
put an orchestrated part with strings, horns, whatever you see fit, another
person could record the lead vocal, be it man or lady, it doesn't matter,
I'll be doing it in the key of C, so it won't be too high either way, nor
too low, maybe have someone lay the drums down, then maybe have someone
finally listen to the final session when done, and mix it, and bounce to an
mp3.  Then, if kevin wants to, he could even put the final mp3 up on the p t
access blog.
 
 I'm asking here first, as I know a lot of you do this stuff for a living
and have more important higher paid priorities to deal with before you take
something like this on, however, remember for one thing, I'm not asking
anyone to do the whole song.  If we do this, I want it to be a group effort.
Each person who agrees to add something to it, won't be doing so cause they
have to, nor are obligated to, but because they think this could actually be
really fun.  Also remember you're only gonna be doing one part.  OK, you
might wind up doing two vocal parts or so if you're doing the backing vocal,
but then maybe not, you may just do one backing part and leave someone else
to do another part if they want to.  I dono where it would go.  I just wanna
see what people here can do, and hopefully make a masterpiece out of this in
the long run.  I'm asking here first though, as I don't wanna take this on
at all, until I know that I at least have a couple of people who're willing
to promise that they'll at least attempt to take it on.  I don't have any
timeframe for this either.  It's not like this has to be done in a week's
time.  If it takes 2 weeks, so what? If it tkaes a month, so what? If it
takes 2 months, so what?  This isn't a race against the clock.
 
 So, let me know if you all are interested.  If so, I'll start with the
piano part, and get it uploaded.
 
 Chris. 

Did I read that correctly?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Sony is going to release a new version of Soundforge for the Mac.

Interesting. I wonder how accessible it will be?

The Windows version is not always a stunning success but I guess you never
know.

 

J. R.

 

RE: Did I read that correctly?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I thought I saw it on twitter but I can’t put my hand on it right now. I
think I recall who tweeted it so let me check again with her if no one here
has seen it.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:21 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Did I read that correctly?

 

Hi,

 

where did you read this?

Jürgen

 

Am 23.08.2012 um 19:36 schrieb J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org:





Sony is going to release a new version of Soundforge for the Mac.

Interesting. I wonder how accessible it will be?

The Windows version is not always a stunning success but I guess you never
know.

 

J. R.

 

 

RE: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Slau,

Can you briefly tell me why you have concerns about PT10? I used it a few
months back for my class for recording and editing and it pretty much did as
I expected.
The isues I ran into were related to areas that had problems under both v9
and v10.
Sorry if this is being stupid or whatever I'm just curious since I actually
have the real versions of both and licenses for them as well.
Thanks in advance and if it seems better go ahead and write me off list.

Best,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:00 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

Hi Naama,

Absolutely, you'll need either Snow Leopard or Lion for now. Also, Pro Tools
9 would be recommended. Anything higher than 8.0.4 is fine but, if at all
possible, try to stay away from version 10. If it has to be 10, then that's
workable too.

slau

On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Naama Samantha Shang wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 So I just want to make sure I'm clear - as soon as my work machine
arrives, do I downgrade to Lion before anything else, to avoid problems?
 Thanks,
 Naama
 
 
 --
 Naama Samantha Shang
 Audio Technician
 Talking Book Library
 Natanya, Israel
 +972-9-861-7110
 na...@clfb.org.il
 
 --
 From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:51 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
 
 No sarcasm at all. I just didn't want to misunderstand anything since I
currently don't use Mountain Lion. The vagaries of communication lead to
misunderstandings and I just needed to absolutely sure that at least one
person was categorically unable to read the start field with PT 10 under
Mountain Lion.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Chris Norman wrote:
 
 Haha, not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but no worries anyways.
 
 
 On 21/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, thanks for confirming that in no uncertain terms.
 
 Cheers
 
 On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Chris Norman wrote:
 
 OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it.
 
 I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10:
 
 In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, 
 none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, 
 current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something like
that.
 
 As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the 
 tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature 
 configuration thingy too.
 
 I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid 
 use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data.
 
 Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, 
 etc, etc, etc.
 
 Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to know 
 anything else, please let me know.
 
 Cheers,
 
 On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 
 You can also try going to the events menu and  tempo and constant 
 tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you will 
 notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the 
 different event dialog boxes.
 The Oreo Monster
 monkeypushe...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote:
 
 Interact with the counters area and there are several there.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:59 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion
 
 Hi, Where should I go in pro tools to see if these fields work 
 as I am still in the process of learning pro tools?  I should be 
 able to let you know if the proper fields read if I am told 
 where to go and I will also try it on my lion installation to 
 see the difference.  Nick Gawronski
 
 On 8/19/2012 6:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Nick,
 
 Can you read the Start field in the edit window under Mountain 
 Lion in Pro
 Tools 10?
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
 
 Hi, Some edit fields read fine like the file names to save 
 projects as and when you bounce tracks to files.  I am using 
 mountain lion but do have lion still around should I need it.  
 I think it is possible to down grade to lion if you need to 
 but don't know if the newer mac books will support the down 
 grade.  My digi 003 works fine under mountain lion and I did 
 not need to reinstall anything.  The only thing I had to 
 reinstall was the drivers for my express card for my sata 
 drive and that was not even an upgrade I just opened the folder
where I had the pkg file and ran it and things now work great again.
 Nick Gawronski
 
 On 8/18/2012 10:15 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 So, am I understanding this correctly? With Mountain Lion, no 
 edit

RE: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I thought that was the issue but wanted to make sure. I just used the xpand2
and default stuff for my capstone. Buying the extras right now is just a bit
out of reach even as a student. LOL


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Norman
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:59 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

Hiya, think I messed up the sending of this email, but if not, sorry for the
double post.

Firstly, Slau, it's no worries mate, I just wasn't sure if you were being
tongue in cheek or not, but I thought I'd better lay it on a plate so there
was no ambiguity. :-)

J R, I am using Pro Tools 10 on my meager setup, and it works fine.
The only real show stopper is that the plugins have all been converted to
the AAX format, which I'm sure is lovely, but it renders the configurable
parameters completely unconfigurable LOL.

It is worth noting that not all plugins are in AAX, XPand for example, is
still an RTAS, so it works fine, as are a few others.

The isn't usually that much of a problem anyways, because there's a whole
plethora of presets to choose from, but for example, with the Normalise
Audio Sweet plugin, there's no presets, so I cannot normalise my stuff.

Anyways, hope that's cleared up some stuff.



On 22/08/2012, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote:
 Slau,

 Can you briefly tell me why you have concerns about PT10? I used it a 
 few months back for my class for recording and editing and it pretty 
 much did as I expected.
 The isues I ran into were related to areas that had problems under 
 both v9 and v10.
 Sorry if this is being stupid or whatever I'm just curious since I 
 actually have the real versions of both and licenses for them as well.
 Thanks in advance and if it seems better go ahead and write me off list.

 Best,
 J. R.


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:00 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

 Hi Naama,

 Absolutely, you'll need either Snow Leopard or Lion for now. Also, Pro 
 Tools
 9 would be recommended. Anything higher than 8.0.4 is fine but, if at 
 all possible, try to stay away from version 10. If it has to be 10, 
 then that's workable too.

 slau

 On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:38 AM, Naama Samantha Shang wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 So I just want to make sure I'm clear - as soon as my work machine
 arrives, do I downgrade to Lion before anything else, to avoid problems?
 Thanks,
 Naama


 --
 Naama Samantha Shang
 Audio Technician
 Talking Book Library
 Natanya, Israel
 +972-9-861-7110
 na...@clfb.org.il

 --
 From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:51 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

 No sarcasm at all. I just didn't want to misunderstand anything 
 since I
 currently don't use Mountain Lion. The vagaries of communication lead 
 to misunderstandings and I just needed to absolutely sure that at 
 least one person was categorically unable to read the start field with 
 PT 10 under Mountain Lion.

 Cheers,

 Slau

 On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

 Haha, not sure if that was sarcasm or not, but no worries anyways.


 On 21/08/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, thanks for confirming that in no uncertain terms.

 Cheers

 On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Chris Norman wrote:

 OK, lemme try and lay this out as clearly and fully as I know it.

 I can't try pt 9 on Mountain Lion, or I would, but with PT10:

 In the edit window, when you interact with the counter display, 
 none of the values there will read. That is to say, the start, 
 current, and end selection boxes. They just say text or something 
 like
 that.

 As people have said, the same is true of the edit boxes in the 
 tempo settings, and I'd bet it's the same in the time signature 
 configuration thingy too.

 I'd be willing to put money on it being the text fields that Avid 
 use, that require you to use the numberpad to enter data.

 Other than that, everything else is working healthily, hardware, 
 etc, etc, etc.

 Cheers, and hope that clears it up a bit Slau. If you need to 
 know anything else, please let me know.

 Cheers,

 On 20/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 You can also try going to the events menu and  tempo and 
 constant tempo, you see it does the same thing there. Infact you 
 will notice it does the same in all edit fields in all of the 
 different event dialog boxes.
 The Oreo Monster
 monkeypushe...@gmail.com



 On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:01 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org
 wrote:

 Interact with the counters area and there are several there.


 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:ptaccess

RE: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Interact with the counters area and there are several there.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick Gawronski
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:59 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

Hi, Where should I go in pro tools to see if these fields work as I am still
in the process of learning pro tools?  I should be able to let you know if
the proper fields read if I am told where to go and I will also try it on my
lion installation to see the difference.  Nick Gawronski

On 8/19/2012 6:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 Nick,

 Can you read the Start field in the edit window under Mountain Lion in Pro
Tools 10?

 Slau

 On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

 Hi, Some edit fields read fine like the file names to save projects 
 as and when you bounce tracks to files.  I am using mountain lion but 
 do have lion still around should I need it.  I think it is possible 
 to down grade to lion if you need to but don't know if the newer mac 
 books will support the down grade.  My digi 003 works fine under 
 mountain lion and I did not need to reinstall anything.  The only 
 thing I had to reinstall was the drivers for my express card for my 
 sata drive and that was not even an upgrade I just opened the folder 
 where I had the pkg file and ran it and things now work great again.  
 Nick Gawronski

 On 8/18/2012 10:15 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 So, am I understanding this correctly? With Mountain Lion, no edit
fields are being read in Pro Tools versions 9 and 10? Can someone else
confirm this? Version 10 reads fine with Snow Leopard and Lion, from other
accounts.


 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:07 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote:

 Hello,

 It appears to be an edit field where there would be text you could edit
or change thats not reading in ML with PT10. This issue doesn't happen with
PT 9 or 10 on lion. And if i remember correctly PT 9 on ML had the same
issue. As i was planning to keep my air running PT 9 in case i ran into any
showstoppers in version  10. But when i upgraded my air to ml i realiezed
none of the edit fields read at all. That was when i upgraded to version 10
on ML to se if it would fix the issue. So if appears for now If pro tools is
an everyday necessity at the very least you will need to keep a lion
partition around for a little bit.
 The Oreo Monster
 monkeypushe...@gmail.com



 On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I still haven't updated my HD system to version 10 but, since I also
have a 003, I decided to update my regular LE version to 10. I'd like to
clear something up and I will need verification of something:

 I'm running Pro Tools version 10 on Snow Leopard and there are no
issues with any counter displays not reading. Now, I don't have Mountain
Lion and will not run it for some time. Can someone verify, specifically,
where counters are not reading properly? Even in Mountain Lion, that would
be fairly strange, that is, for a text display to not read correctly. That
said, technically, Mountain Lion is not approved for Pro Tools so I'm not
concerned.yet.

 Again, someone with Mountain Lion and Pro Tools 10, please let me know
precisely where a counter display doesn't read correctly where it used to
read correctly in Snow Leopard or Lion.

 Thanks,

 Slau

RE: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have been using Lion for some time. I used it for my PT110 class and the
counters appeared to read fine.
I haven't tried things yet with 10.8 but used PT on 10.7 and 10.6.8. I don't
recall having issues between 10.6.8 and the 10.7.
I did make sure that I had PT 10 latest on my machine.

My iMac is currently running 10.7.4 Lion.

If I can help further let me know. I have a partition that is for Mtn Lion
and will try and get things installed there and report back.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 5:42 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

Nick,

Can you read the Start field in the edit window under Mountain Lion in Pro
Tools 10?

Slau

On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

 Hi, Some edit fields read fine like the file names to save projects as and
when you bounce tracks to files.  I am using mountain lion but do have lion
still around should I need it.  I think it is possible to down grade to lion
if you need to but don't know if the newer mac books will support the down
grade.  My digi 003 works fine under mountain lion and I did not need to
reinstall anything.  The only thing I had to reinstall was the drivers for
my express card for my sata drive and that was not even an upgrade I just
opened the folder where I had the pkg file and ran it and things now work
great again.  Nick Gawronski
 
 On 8/18/2012 10:15 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 So, am I understanding this correctly? With Mountain Lion, no edit fields
are being read in Pro Tools versions 9 and 10? Can someone else confirm
this? Version 10 reads fine with Snow Leopard and Lion, from other accounts.
 
 
 On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:07 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 It appears to be an edit field where there would be text you could edit
or change thats not reading in ML with PT10. This issue doesn't happen with
PT 9 or 10 on lion. And if i remember correctly PT 9 on ML had the same
issue. As i was planning to keep my air running PT 9 in case i ran into any
showstoppers in version  10. But when i upgraded my air to ml i realiezed
none of the edit fields read at all. That was when i upgraded to version 10
on ML to se if it would fix the issue. So if appears for now If pro tools is
an everyday necessity at the very least you will need to keep a lion
partition around for a little bit.
 The Oreo Monster
 monkeypushe...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 16, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I still haven't updated my HD system to version 10 but, since I also
have a 003, I decided to update my regular LE version to 10. I'd like to
clear something up and I will need verification of something:
 
 I'm running Pro Tools version 10 on Snow Leopard and there are no
issues with any counter displays not reading. Now, I don't have Mountain
Lion and will not run it for some time. Can someone verify, specifically,
where counters are not reading properly? Even in Mountain Lion, that would
be fairly strange, that is, for a text display to not read correctly. That
said, technically, Mountain Lion is not approved for Pro Tools so I'm not
concerned.yet.
 
 Again, someone with Mountain Lion and Pro Tools 10, please let me know
precisely where a counter display doesn't read correctly where it used to
read correctly in Snow Leopard or Lion.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau
 
 
 

RE: a brief debriefing on Pro Tools

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have a couple of rooms in my basement with locks that would work for that
one. LOL

Most glad I have the space and machinery to run two versions of the OS.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Eagle
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 6:38 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a brief debriefing on Pro Tools

I've not got much room in my flat for storing hostages, but anything
other than that, I'd be happy to help. Thanks so much slau.

On 17/08/2012, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome. Thanks so much for all of this man. You rock.

 Kevin
 On Aug 16, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:

 Folks,

 I just wanted to briefly give you a little synopsis regarding
 accessibility issues in Pro Tools. As most of you know, there have been
 some changes of late. Actually, there are the changes in Pro Tools, of
 course, but more importantly, there have been significant changes at
Avid.
 If you keep up with the business section of your paper, you'll have read
 about the investments and divestments involving Avid, their staff, their
 affiliated companies, etc. This is truly a difficult period for the
 company.

 At any rate, I did speak with Bobby Lombardi and we talked about possible
 solutions for the future. Part of it might involve taking on an intern,
 not unlike the last time, and tackling the most pressing issues. There's
 another possibility that involves a sort of hackathon where programmers
 take on special projects and run with it to see how far they get and, if
 their work seems successful enough, they incorporate it into the
 application. Without delving into more details (because at this point, we
 know which is more likely), we're going to touch base in a few more weeks
 and to see where we stand. I'll be going out to San francisco at the end
 of October and will have some face-to-face time with Bobby and others
with
 whom I've kept in touch.

 There's another development that might potentially help push things along
 a bit but it's too early to discuss. As soon as I have more information,
 I'll share it here.

 Best,

 Slau





-- 
http://www.davideagle.co.uk

RE: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I haven't tried the Mtn Lion thing but if it as they have said, counters
aren't spoken, then you might want to consider that down grade or do a
resize on your disk partition so you can have a MTN Lion and a Lion
partition.
I suspect right now that is what I will do on the current Mac Book Pro and
probably on the new one when it gets here.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Naama Samantha Shang
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:57 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

Hi all,
New to the list and new to proTools, so looking forward with both dread and
excitement to the challenge.

I am supposed to receive a new mac for work, which is editing audio books. 
Yes, I know, I know, protools is overkill for this, but this is what they
want me to use.
I will mostly be doing editing, cutting, pasting, etc.

In light of the findings in Mountain Lion and protools, should I downgrade
to Lion before installing protools? I need to do things, as I said, such as
editing, and I also have to keep a close eye on the timeline.

Thanks for any advice,

Naama


 --
Naama Samantha Shang
Audio Technician
Talking Book Library
Natanya, Israel
+972-9-861-7110
na...@clfb.org.il

--
From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 10 and Mountain Lion

 Same as Chris, I have dual partitioned, except the one with mountain 
 lion does have PT on it, and I use it to test new plugins etc.

 The main problem, as people are saying, is that counter values aren't 
 shown etc, which makes editing something of a challenge, but if you 
 don't care about all that stuff, you could record and mix quite 
 happily on Mountain Lion.

 Apart from that, I do prefer Mountain Lion over Lion, and I am looking 
 forward to Avid certifying PT for the OS.

 While we're on the subject, you heard anything from your mate in Avid 
 Slau? and, as I said before, is there anything we can do to help?

 Cheers all, and merry mixing!

 On 16/08/2012, The Oreo Monster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 do you set a tempo for any of your projects or do any recording hat 
 requires you to change settings at the start of each project?
 The Oreo Monster
 monkeypushe...@gmail.com



 On Aug 14, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com 
 wrote:

 Hi, I use pro tools 10.1 on mountain lion with no problems.  A few 
 things
 read differently but basically from what I have found if you hit the
 button that says pop up button your settings should still be there from
 the last time you ran it.  My drivers for my digi 003 work just fine so 
 I
 see no reason not to use mountain lion it just means that Avid does not
 fully support mountain lion but from what I have found it runs fine.
 Stick with what comes on the system as down grading could take a long 
 time
 as you will have to reinstall everything from scratch and if it comes 
 with
 mountain lion on it just use it and see how it works.  I have had no 
 major
 issues or crashes and have done some small test recordings to test out 
 it
 and all have worked fine.  Nick Gawronski

 On 8/14/2012 5:38 AM, Geoff Shang wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm aware that Avid have not certified any version of Pro Tools as 
 ready
 for Mountain Lion.

 My wife has just started a job and a mac has been ordered.  This means
 it'll probably come with Mountain Lion.  We can probably downgrade it,
 but I thought I'd first ask if anyone had tried Pro Tools 10 under
 Mountain Lion and found any differences.

 I saw someone post the other day that upgrading had broken Pro Tools 9
 and I wondered if 10 was also affected.

 Thanks,
 Geoff.





 -- 
 Take care,

 Chris Norman.

 !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- 

RE: anyone have the structure presets

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Roland made some pretty good stuff didn't they.

I have a JV35 which I reallyt like.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:41 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: anyone have the structure presets

 

Hi Ronald,

Actually one of my assistants made them last year because Avid has not made
that part of the plug window accessible. :)

I sent them to kevin like i said in the last email almost 2 years ago.

I don't have the full version because I personally prefer my K2500 and
roland fantom x6 to the instruments that shipped with my HD3 rig.

Jason got the full version and he had his assistant do the same as I did
about 6 to 8 months ago just so you have the chronological events correct
now.

GUFFAWING :) ;)

 

CHUCK REICHEL
954-742-0019

www.SoundPictureRecording.com

In GOD I Trust

 

 

 

Talk soon

 

 

 

On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:





Hi Baker420 (what is your callname if I may ask),Uou got the right ones
which I have too. Tjhis is for the free version which comes with PT. don't
know for sure, but think this is for all PT versions the same free limited
version. There is no more presets to get for this one I believe.
Okay now I am totaly confused, but nothing new..:) First I thought Kevin
made the Free presets, now he says it was Jason for all of them, and now
Chuck writes he made the 63 presets.. well, I am thankful to the one who
really made them, thanks.
best,
Ronald


Op 2 jun. 2012, om 19:26 heeft baker420 het volgende geschreven:




hi chuck got the structure presets there's 63 of them i'm new i use pt

mp9 is there more presets or no not sure have the le edition the one

that comes with pt mp9 thanks

 

On Jun 2, 1:06 pm, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com

wrote:

Hi Kevin,

Does this include  the first 63  Structure Free presets I sent you a year
 a half ago?

;)

CHUCK REICHEL

954-742-0019www.SoundPictureRecording.com

In GOD I Trust

 

On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just to clarify, Jason made all of these presets.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

RE: protools conference call

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I've lost my dial in number. Can someone repost the conference information?

Thanks,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:50 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: protools conference call

Hello all,
Just was curious to see if we were still having the protools conference call
today.  Thanks, Brian

RE: re-ordering tracks in a session

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Try the following.

1. Interact with the table and move so VO has focus on the track to be
moved.
2. press VO-Command-F5 to bring the mouse to your position.
I think VO-F5 will tell you what has focus.
3. press VO-Command-Shift-Space which does a mouse down click.
4. press VO-Shift-F3 to turn off tracking.
5. using the VO commands move in the table to where you want the track to be
placed.
6. press VO-Command-F5 to move the mouse to where you are.
7. press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the mouse click.
8. press VO-Shift-F3 to turn tracking back on.

If this all works it should place the track in the list right after the
place where you moved in step 5.
I haven't tried this because I'm not in the middle of a mix right now but it
works for other places where you want to move things around.

J. R.




-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:44 PM
To: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Cc: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: re-ordering tracks in a session

No, that did not work.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 3, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow Brian!  Man, you're coming a long way!  I had totally forgotten about
that drag drop method in Lion.  Great job!  If that doesn't work I honestly
wouldn't know, but have too wondered the same thing.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton
bshowert...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 4:07 PM
 Subject: re-ordering tracks in a session
 
 
 Hello all,
 What is the best way for us to be able to move or re-order tracks in a
session?  Let's say we don't like where a track is and we want to move it up
or down in our tracks to reposition it, what is the best way to do that?  I
tried interacting with the track list table, selecting a track and then I
tried dragging and dropping the track, in other words I hit control option
comma to pick the track up to move it and then was going to hit control
option period to drop the track in the new position but voiceover would not
let me do that so I am stumped.  How do we do this?  Thanks,
 Brian= 

RE: Just My take

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Mike,

 

Can you tell me how you come up with the number 100? Is that the number of
members on this list? I suspect there are a larger number of people who
aren't on this list because they don't know about it, they feel they don't
need it (very dumb), or some other reason. grin

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Lockett
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:37 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just My take

 

Brian well worded.

Slau's knowledge and disposition can't be denied not even by Avid.

I couldn't think of a greater point person.

They should be made aware if now there's 100 blind users if they create a
more accessible product 

that number will grow.

I also agree the educational aspect of it could open up even a bigger
market.

I think we all have to figure out how we can contribute to the fight.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Brian Casey mailto:brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com  

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:05 AM

Subject: Re: Just My take

 

Mike, 

 

Great points again. 

 

Brale on elivators is a very different cost to effort ratio to making
ProTools accessible I'm sure, but I get your point, and those kinds of
measures aren't only down to building laws etc. 

 

Perhaps some organisation like the American council for the Blind could take
up a lobbying roll on behalf of blind/visually impaired professionals in the
audio industry? Being from Ireland, I'm not too close to the Irish
equivalent, and  Ireland is very insignificant anyway, but I'd imagine the
U.S. organisation might yield quite a bit of lobbying power, and this might
be a good start as a majority of software/hardware companies in the DAW game
are based in the U.S. An organisation like that might also be able to push
the educational angle. It has been mentioned in the past, but the education
secter is very important to a company like Avid or Apple even more so. If
equal access to education is the question, then that could lead somewhere a
little more permanent. 

 

However, like you say Mike, there are times to be aggressive and times for
other actions, and if an aggressive approach is taken across the board,
forcing accessibility on these companies may lead to a hollow kind of fix,
where they reluctantly do just enough to make it look like they're keeping
on top of accessibility issues, and for us professionals we could be worse
off if that was the case, but who knows. 

 

Hence why I say be aggressive toward Apple with logic, let Slau do his
thing, let scripters be scripters, but perhaps long term see if some more
powerful collective for lobbbying can be established, something a little
more political and more interactive than a petition. 

 

Finally, I think one of the clever things Slau has done is not force the
issue, and try to nurture a genuine interest, pride or sense of
responsibility in at least someone in a company like Avid to try and address
accessibility. If you yell at someone to clean up their act they might do
so, but not with vitality, however if you show someone a glimpse of positive
outcomes that might result, the effects might be more lasting and they might
even bring new ideas to the table. 

 

Brian.

From: Mike Lockett mailto:mloc...@gmail.com  

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:30 PM

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Just My take

 

Hello my Take for what its worth...
I think PTaccess is only a forum, maybe there should be an organized union.
The like of one means that all of us are fighting this accessibility war as
individual agents.
I'm not sure which side of the aggressive verses patients argument side I
fall on.
though my life's experience says there's a place for both of them.

Secondly more times than not when we get on an elevator there's normally
Braille,
though doing the course of a day maybe 3 or 4 blind people out of thousands
get on the elevator.
so I'm not sure numbers or our like of should stop us from pursuing
something 
we've paid for.
Protools is just one battle to be wedged.
There are plug-ins even apple probably could do more.
The rule of thumb is normally as time passes things get better,
the scary thing here is that its not guaranteed.
The next version of protools because of a window change could go from %80 to
%20 I hope not but its possible.
Until there's some official organization this is what we are stuck with
the PT ACCESS group sharing ideas and war stories.

RE: Voice Over Question

[J. R. Westmoreland]

If I had a nickel for every time I had done that one I'd be rich. LOL

Glad that worked.

 

J. R.

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:27 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over Question

 

J.R, that worked. It seems to be in the little details that I am having to
bump my shins the most. 

- Original Message - 

From: J. R. Westmoreland mailto:j...@jrw.org  

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:36 PM

Subject: RE: Voice Over Question

 

Make sure you are not in quick nav mode.

Press the right and left arrows together and make sure VO says quick nav
off.

At least that is what I try when I find things behaving like that.

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Poppa Bear
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:07 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Over Question

 

I think I changed a setting on accidend. I can normaly just arrow around a
folder or applacation window, but what ever I did made it so that when I am
in a folder or list of apps I can only tab or use the first letter of each
item to navagate and I would rather be able to arrow around, and I would not
only like to change it back, but also know what I did for future reference.
I have only been using voice over for a few weeks now so I am very new to
all of this. 

Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering
and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com

RE: Elastic audio is usable! :)

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Right. Using the warp markers etc doesn't appear to work at all. At least I
couldn't get it to do so.
There is a whole section on this in the PT110 course where they want you to
warp things using elastic audio etc.
After going through this chapter I felt like I had taken up a career in
engineering on the Enterprise. LOL
It is nice to know that some things in this area are usable.

It looks like beat detective also is somewhat accessible. At least I will be
trying the lab tomorrow.

J. R.



-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:01 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Elastic audio is usable! :)

This was something Kevin discovered during the beta cycle but it was never
discussed on list. Thing is, a major aspect of Elastic Audio is the ability
to create markers to stretch things like words or elements that have no
reference to tempo. That's not currently possible although it could probably
be implemented, and hopefully will be some day.

Best,

Slau

RE: iloc question and using pro tools 10 on a mac book pro

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I got a boxed version and it came with an iLok but it didn't have a license
preloaded. I had to do the registration thing and it was then deposited to
my iLok account.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick Gawronski
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:09 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Cc: Slau Halatyn
Subject: Re: iloc question and using pro tools 10 on a mac book pro

Hi, I should have mentioned that I bought a boxed version of pro tools from
the guitar center which came with an ilok that had been preloaded and the
installation guide said that the boxed version came with a preloaded ilok
which I had someone help me read it as I was not aware it was on the discs
and wanted to make sure I did everything right the first time.  All I did
was have someone help me register such as entering in the serial numbers but
I had voiceover on the entire time so did all of the rest of the steps.  I
did not know that pro tools 10 could be bought just as a download plus I
like to have the DVD's on hand if I should need to reinstall it later.
Should I not have bought the boxed version?  Nick Gawronski

On 2/22/2012 12:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 How did you buy an iLok key with the Pro Tools authorization on it
already? Usually, the license is deposited into your iLok account after
you've created the account. In fact, the registration process asks you for
your iLok user name. Did you buy it used?
 The Preview question is probably better suited for the MacVisionaries
list. Are you subscribed there?

 Best,

 Slau

 On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:

 Hi, I bought pro tools 10 and it came with an ilok preloaded with a 
 pro tools 10 authorization.  I have registered pro tools with avid 
 but as of yet have not created an ilok.com account should I do this 
 even if my ilok has the proper license on it already?  Also, I have a 
 mac book pro 17 inch model late 2011 and am trying to find out do I 
 really need a full sized apple keyboard as I normally don't use a num 
 pad can I get by with none?  Also, I am also trying to find out the 
 best way to read the manuals as if I navigate to the proper chapter 
 and do a say all I find that voiceover does not always speak 
 everything and sometimes speech will stop or parts of words are cut 
 off.  When speech stops when doing a say all which should not happen 
 I have had to hit voiceover and down errow to go down then hit say 
 all again which I should not have to do. I also have a pc with adobe 
 acrobat and open book version 9 but can't find a way to jump to the 
 correct chapters in either program an
y ideas on the best way to read the manuals or ways to convert them to other
formats or audio files so I can read them on a different system or device
and do the recording and work on pro tools?  Nick Gawronski

RE: mac question

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Mac Book Pro is great. I have one. Mine os a bit older but is still very
sericable. The new Mac Book Pro Air with quad-core processor is very nice.

If you can get the 7200 RPM drive the performance of the drive would help.

Get at least 8GB of memory as well.

 

Just my 2c worth.

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:06 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: mac question

 

Hello folks,

I am really considering jumping in to the world of mac for recording now.
My question is this...  I am thinking about buying a laptop for recording.
What would you guys recommend as the best laptop to buy?  I was thinking
about purchasing the macbook pro but I was wondering what people's thoughts
were and is this something that I could purchase off the shelf in an apple
store or something or would I have to buy this from somewhere that just
sells stuff for audio production?  Also, what would people recommend as the
best  version of protools to get?  Thanks,

Brian

RE: mac question

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Thanks for the correction. I was unaware of the difference and the lack of
firewire.
I have a 15 inch and it doesn't have a full keyboard. Does the 17 inch?
I used the 15 inch without a full keyboard for a while but I must say that
the full is better.
As far as Bluetooth goes, I don't know of a full keyboard but the
combination of keyboard and stand alone numpad is a big problem.
The short answer is it doesn't work. There appears to be a problem with
catching modifier keys from the keyboard and then the numpad entry.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: mac question

As already said I also think macbook pro is your answer. I'll say the
15 or 17 because they come with the quad core i7 processors and the 13
only comes with dual core i7's. If you configure your perchis in the
online apple store you can opt for the 7200 RPM 750 GB hard drive
rather than the 5400 RPM, think this is $50 extra and will help a lot.
As also said 4 GB RAM will get you far but if you can get 8 GB just
because you can. If you get a external apple keyboard with a numpad
which I recommend, just remember the bluetooth keyboard also doesn't
have a numpad or as far as I know anyway, only the wired one is a full
keyboard. The reason for me for not wanting a macbook air is that it
doesn't have firewire and I use a firewire interface so maybe you
should consider the same.


Monkey Pusher wrote:
 Oh and you will need a full sized keyboard, as most of the pro tools
 keyboard shortcut relies on  the number pad. whether u use a bluetooth
 full sized keyboard or just plug in a wired  full sized keyboard to
 one of your usb ports is up to you.

 On 1/18/12, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks JR.  Is this something I can actually buy off the shelf?  Also
would
  I need a bluetooth keyboard?  Also, what's the difference in the mac
book
  pro and the mac book pro air?  Also, just as a side question, I saw you
were
  possibly converting the protools 101 textbook in to braille, and I was
  wondering how that was coming along...  Thanks,
  Brian
- Original Message -
From: J. R. Westmoreland
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: mac question
 
 
Mac Book Pro is great. I have one. Mine os a bit older but is still
very
  sericable. The new Mac Book Pro Air with quad-core processor is very
nice.
 
If you can get the 7200 RPM drive the performance of the drive would
help.
 
Get at least 8GB of memory as well.
 
 
 
Just my 2c worth.
 
 
 
J. R.
 
 
 
 
 
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:06 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: mac question
 
 
 
Hello folks,
 
I am really considering jumping in to the world of mac for recording
now.
  My question is this...  I am thinking about buying a laptop for
recording.
  What would you guys recommend as the best laptop to buy?  I was thinking
  about purchasing the macbook pro but I was wondering what people's
thoughts
  were and is this something that I could purchase off the shelf in an
apple
  store or something or would I have to buy this from somewhere that just
  sells stuff for audio production?  Also, what would people recommend as
the
  best  version of protools to get?  Thanks,
 
Brian
 

RE: mac question

[J. R. Westmoreland]

See below.

 

J. R.

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:24 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mac question

 

Thanks JR.  Is this something I can actually buy off the shelf?  

J. R. Yes. As was stated you can order it from the online store or at
1-800-myapple. You could call your local store and see what they could do as
far as making it happen from local stock.

 

Also would I need a bluetooth keyboard?  

J. R. Don't get a Bluetooth keyboard.. If you want one get a full sized
keyboard. It plugs in via USB and costs around $50.

 

Also, what's the difference in the mac book pro and the mac book pro air?  

J. R. Mentioned in an other post. No firewire seems to be a big issue from
my perspective. I purchased a firewire external drive which I use sometimes
but mostly at home on the iMac and Command 8. I use the Mac Book Pro mostly
for recording and not mixing. Your mileage may vary. LOL

 

Also, just as a side question, I saw you were possibly converting the
protools 101 textbook in to braille, and I was wondering how that was coming
along...

J. R. I have the scan done and the clean up pretty much complete. I have to
send it to my friend at the library for transcription and final clean up. At
that point it will come back to me for proof reading. When that time comes I
may be looking for a couple  of others to proof it as well. Probably some
readers who are very good at braille and can read as well as look for errors
at the same time. That is a more rare person than you might suspect. LOL
Kevin and I sometimes think in our more crazy moments that we need to make
an add-on to the book for blind users that contains keystrokes and
techniques specific to blind users. That sounds like work doesn't it?
smile

 

  Thanks,

Brian

- Original Message - 

From: J. R. Westmoreland mailto:j...@jrw.org  

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:17 AM

Subject: RE: mac question

 

Mac Book Pro is great. I have one. Mine os a bit older but is still very
sericable. The new Mac Book Pro Air with quad-core processor is very nice.

If you can get the 7200 RPM drive the performance of the drive would help.

Get at least 8GB of memory as well.

 

Just my 2c worth.

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:06 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: mac question

 

Hello folks,

I am really considering jumping in to the world of mac for recording now.
My question is this...  I am thinking about buying a laptop for recording.
What would you guys recommend as the best laptop to buy?  I was thinking
about purchasing the macbook pro but I was wondering what people's thoughts
were and is this something that I could purchase off the shelf in an apple
store or something or would I have to buy this from somewhere that just
sells stuff for audio production?  Also, what would people recommend as the
best  version of protools to get?  Thanks,

Brian

RE: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I'm taking the standard course offered by the university. No it doesn't cost
me any extra.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ronald van Rhijn
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:35 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

Hi J.R.,
Perhaps I missed it, but are you taking the regular course and if so, is
your teacher taking the extra efforts with no extra costs involved?
Ronald
 
Op 14 jan. 2012, om 16:33 heeft J. R. Westmoreland het volgende geschreven:

 The course requires no experience. They take you from ground-zero to 
 where you need to be.
 It will take you a lot of work outside of class because you will have 
 to ask a lot of questions about things in Pro Tools.
 Things like, what is this screen trying to show me, experimenting with 
 controls to see if accessible and what they will tell you and allow 
 you to do, building new habbits, etc.
 I had experience with Soundforge when I started but none with Pro Tools.
 Like I said earlier, I don't know as much as most of the experts on 
 the list, not even by half. LOL This is list is a great resource as 
 you move along in your quest for knowledge and techniques.
 
 I can't tell you about the tests yet since I haven't taken any of them.
 
 J. R.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn
 Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:17 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands
 
 Hi J.R.,
 That's a good one, a big mouse.;-)
 Have been thinking about it a lot and think I will not take the PT 101 
 for the before mentioned 4500 dollar. Instead I will look for 
 alternatives, because the degree is not my goal but to get the hang of 
 Pro Tools. I usually learn things by myself, with the help of others 
 once in a while, but definately need some guidance and structure for Pro
tools.
 Anyways, like Nickus said I should probably first get some serious 
 hours of practice and experience.
 I wonder, how much experience and knowledge did you have before 
 starting the PT 101 course?
 Much luck with all!
 best,
 Ronald
 
 Op 13 jan. 2012, om 19:21 heeft J. R. Westmoreland het volgende
geschreven:
 
 Speaking with a little bit of experience, not even close to others on 
 the list, I tried it without a control surface and with. I have found 
 it much easier to use many things with a surface than without it. 
 Mark says to think of a surface as a big mouse. LOL
 
 Will the university there not let you take the classes as continuing 
 education, not persuing a degree, or something like that?
 
 J. R.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ronald van Rhijn
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:28 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands
 
 Hi,
 Yeah it's a big amount of money. I have to say it's for a full week. 
 For a sighted person it's two days and costs about 700 dollar. I 
 assume it's a private organization. No regular university offer this 
 kind of study, at all. Only as part of a complete audio enginering 
 study, which I have no interest in.
 My inquery here is to learn which of the inaccessible areas of Pro 
 Tools, I know a few of them) are possible in other ways such as with 
 a control surface. Still haven't bought one you know:-) Most 
 important are obviously the features which cannot be done with Voice 
 Over or
 external hardware.
 
 Then I can make a good choice if it will be worth the money. The Avid 
 certificate isn't my main purpose.
 
 Thanks,
 Ronald
 
 
 Op 13 jan. 2012, om 04:15 heeft J. R. Westmoreland het volgende
 geschreven:
 
 That is extremely expensive.
 The class here is a 14 week class at 1 hour per week. They assume 
 that you spend around 2 hours outside class with assignments etc.
 I think through the university it is around $400.
 The PT110 class is the same.
 I'm working on having the two texts for these classes done in braille.
 Recording them would be much harder especially since there are lots 
 of side notes and diagrams, figures and tables that would have to be
 described.
 
 Weber State University is certified to teach both PT101 and PT110 as 
 well as proctor the exams. At least I believe they can do the exams.
 Mark has put a lot of effort into teaching the classes and making 
 them workable for a blind person.
 
 Sorry, that price just boggles the mind. Mark offered to teach me 
 One-on-one for something like a fourth of that as I recall.
 Even for a third of that cost it would be more reasonable.
 
 J. R.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com

RE: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Speaking with a little bit of experience, not even close to others on the
list, I tried it without a control surface and with. I have found it much
easier to use many things with a surface than without it. Mark says to think
of a surface as a big mouse. LOL

Will the university there not let you take the classes as continuing
education, not persuing a degree, or something like that?

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ronald van Rhijn
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:28 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

Hi,
Yeah it's a big amount of money. I have to say it's for a full week. For a
sighted person it's two days and costs about 700 dollar. I assume it's a
private organization. No regular university offer this kind of study, at
all. Only as part of a complete audio enginering study, which I have no
interest in. 
My inquery here is to learn which of the inaccessible areas of Pro Tools, I
know a few of them) are possible in other ways such as with a control
surface. Still haven't bought one you know:-) Most important are obviously
the features which cannot be done with Voice Over or external hardware.

Then I can make a good choice if it will be worth the money. The Avid
certificate isn't my main purpose.

Thanks,
Ronald


 Op 13 jan. 2012, om 04:15 heeft J. R. Westmoreland het volgende geschreven:

 That is extremely expensive.
 The class here is a 14 week class at 1 hour per week. They assume that 
 you spend around 2 hours outside class with assignments etc.
 I think through the university it is around $400.
 The PT110 class is the same.
 I'm working on having the two texts for these classes done in braille.
 Recording them would be much harder especially since there are lots of 
 side notes and diagrams, figures and tables that would have to be
described.
 
 Weber State University is certified to teach both PT101 and PT110 as 
 well as proctor the exams. At least I believe they can do the exams.
 Mark has put a lot of effort into teaching the classes and making them 
 workable for a blind person.
 
 Sorry, that price just boggles the mind. Mark offered to teach me 
 One-on-one for something like a fourth of that as I recall.
 Even for a third of that cost it would be more reasonable.
 
 J. R.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Nick Gawronski
 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Ronald van Rhijn
 Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands
 
 Hi, I am in the USA and am also interested in taking the pro tools 
 certification classes.  It would be great to take these classes even 
 if some areas of pro tools are not accessible as this way we can alert 
 Avid about these issues and get them resolved.  Letting developers 
 know when their software is not as usable as we would like it is the 
 only way to make it fully accessible.  I always let developers know 
 about accessibility issues as if we do nothing then the chances of 
 issues getting fixed are a lot less unless we let them know what needs 
 to be done.  I also find that if done in a nice way most developers 
 are quite willing to make their software more accessible.  Nick 
 Gawronski
 
 On 1/12/2012 2:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I have been asking around a bit over here in The Netherlands if and 
 where
 I could take the Pro tools 101 course. No one has any experience with 
 blind people and Voice Over but one certain college is willing to give it
a try.
 The lenght of the course will be doubled at least and the costs are 
 going to be as high as 4500 dollar because it's gonna be a one on one
situation.
 That's a lot of money when considering no succes is garanteed due to 
 inaccessibility of some areas in Pro Tools.
 So I would like to ask you guys, I know some you like J.R and Kevin 
 Reeves
 are taking or have taken it, if you could help me making a list with 
 areas of concern. This way I can show this to the instructor and 
 discuss the possibilities before wasting lots of money. The course will be
on PT10.
 
 Your input will be greatly appreciated!
 
 Kind regards,
 Ronald
 

RE: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

[J. R. Westmoreland]

That is extremely expensive.
The class here is a 14 week class at 1 hour per week. They assume that you
spend around 2 hours outside class with assignments etc.
I think through the university it is around $400.
The PT110 class is the same.
I'm working on having the two texts for these classes done in braille.
Recording them would be much harder especially since there are lots of side
notes and diagrams, figures and tables that would have to be described.

Weber State University is certified to teach both PT101 and PT110 as well as
proctor the exams. At least I believe they can do the exams.
Mark has put a lot of effort into teaching the classes and making them
workable for a blind person.

Sorry, that price just boggles the mind. Mark offered to teach me One-on-one
for something like a fourth of that as I recall.
Even for a third of that cost it would be more reasonable.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nick Gawronski
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:29 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Cc: Ronald van Rhijn
Subject: Re: Looking to take Pro Tools 101 here in Tthe Netherlands

Hi, I am in the USA and am also interested in taking the pro tools
certification classes.  It would be great to take these classes even if some
areas of pro tools are not accessible as this way we can alert Avid about
these issues and get them resolved.  Letting developers know when their
software is not as usable as we would like it is the only way to make it
fully accessible.  I always let developers know about accessibility issues
as if we do nothing then the chances of issues getting fixed are a lot less
unless we let them know what needs to be done.  I also find that if done in
a nice way most developers are quite willing to make their software more
accessible.  Nick Gawronski

On 1/12/2012 2:31 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have been asking around a bit over here in The Netherlands if and where
I could take the Pro tools 101 course. No one has any experience with blind
people and Voice Over but one certain college is willing to give it a try.
The lenght of the course will be doubled at least and the costs are going to
be as high as 4500 dollar because it's gonna be a one on one situation.
That's a lot of money when considering no succes is garanteed due to
inaccessibility of some areas in Pro Tools.
 So I would like to ask you guys, I know some you like J.R and Kevin Reeves
are taking or have taken it, if you could help me making a list with areas
of concern. This way I can show this to the instructor and discuss the
possibilities before wasting lots of money. The course will be on PT10.

 Your input will be greatly appreciated!

 Kind regards,
 Ronald

RE: Project to make pro tools more accessible right away.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

For programming time that is pretty inexpensive. Those of us who write
software understand that engineers have to eat too. LOL
Isn't quick keys the package the Bryan wrote; Or am I misremembering?
What is the last free version that I can upgrade to before having to pay to
go to v10?

Just registered today for PT110 at the university. My instructor says he
thinks that I could pass the exams so I may give it some study and try. Mark
is a fabulous instructor and has really gone the extra mile to make these
courses as useful as possible.

Three cheers! School is out for the holidays.

Best to all,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of studiojay
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:15 PM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: Project to make pro tools more accessible right away.

Hey guys, Due to the responces, I am going solo on this project. I
refuse to accept that some functions in pro tools are not accessible.
My clients really don't care weather or not the midi event editor is
accessible. If I can't do the job, they will go to some one else. As
far as I am concerned, a program that is %75 accessible, might as well
be %0 accessible. I am not prepared to wait 3 more years untill some
one at avid feels sorry for the pour blind people and decides to spend
a few hours an makes 2 more windows accessible. It's very sad that
some many people are contented with %75 accessibility. It's also sad
that people find $50 or $60 is too much for a good shot at so much
more accessibility. It's also unfair to ask if you will get back your
money if things don't work out. What about the long days and weeks
that needs to be invested to give this a good shot? And the quick keys
licences that will cost so much less for every one if we move as a
teem in persute of greater accessibility? I really don't mean to
offend any one on this list, but I am really saddened by your
responces. I am going to have an accessible midi event editor as a
Christmas gift, so I can edit the tracks that I have input quantised.
Best regards. Jason


Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
 Hi Jason and all,
 Thanks very much for offering this, but I am still no poweruser so am not
in need of such a thing at this time. The money, if it works well, is no
problem, but I rather not have some additional program to make another
accessible like it is the case with Sonar to be honest.
 On a sidenote, wasn't Brian Smart not doing a similar project? Havent
heard from him for a very long time.
 Kind regards,
 Ronald


 Op 12 dec. 2011, om 17:27 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende
geschreven:

  I agree.
 
  I'm not paying for something not knowing how it would work.
 
  Also, why can't your b inlaw subscribe and give us more information
himself instead of you having to do it on his behalf.  No offense intended.
 
  Chris.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Project to make pro tools more accessible right away.
 
  Dear Jason,
  I appreciate your ID, but I don't really see how quick keys can help us.
One of the main accessibility problems we have is reading out what's
displayed on the screen. Quick keys could help us inputting commands, but I
don't know how it could ask VoiceOver to read things for us.
 
  Moneywise,, what happens if it doesn't work? Do we get our money back?
You know, some folks like Kevin has made great efforts making audio
tutorials for us, and didn't ask for anything in return.
  I can understand that your and your brother-in-law's efforts requires
some kind of fee, but I am not really sure I want to spend money on
unpredictable results.
  I would like to hear our expert blind PT users express themselves about
this.
  Cheers,
  JPR
 
 
  http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
  http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
  - Original Message -
  From: studiojay
  To: Pro Tools Accessibility
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:44 AM
  Subject: Project to make pro tools more accessible right away.
 
  Hey Guys,
  My brother-in-law is willing to help us make
  Pro Tools more accessible using Quick Keys. We hope to work on the
  midi event editor, Input quantise window, and rulers such as time and
  tempo right away even before Christmas. This is a very time consuming
  project, and there will be a small cost for all interested members. I
  would like if every one
  interested could pay him $30 for his time and effort. Also, we could
  purchase multy licences for list members for the Quick Keys software.
  We can
  purchase a 10 pack for $1000 which would be $40 per member. There is
  also a 25 pack which will bring the price down even more. So for about
  $50 or $60, we could all have Quick Keys licences, as well as all the
  Pro Tools maps we need. Look forward to your thoughts on this idea
  since we would like to implement it right away.
  Please note that we would 

RE: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have a iMac loaded to the max with memory and a quad core processor with
external firewire drives. I updated my Mac Book Pro to the max memory and a
larger 7200 RPM disk. The only thing I've heard about that one is that Apple
doesn't always recommend it because they say it can generate too much heat.
Personally, I haven't found it to be an issue.

HTH,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Reeves
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 9:16 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing

I think either the Mini server or the mbp are great choices. On both counts
though, I wouldn't order any features from the apple site. Build the machine
to order and put the fastest proc in that you can, but strip away everything
else. Then, get some kingston or crucial ram, and either a 7200 rpm hybrid
drive, or an SSD. You can get these items third party, which will make it
much cheaper. The bottom of the macbook pro comes off easily and you can get
to the drives and ram. Not sure about the Mini, but I've been told it's easy
to crack into, especially the new one. This is just my 2 cents, so
definitely compare what you're reading here. Good luck, and I hope you can
use this advice here to come up with a machine that fits your needs and your
budget.

Kevin

RE: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I am just saying what I read that the 7200 drives, at least in my Mac Book,
weren't recommended. That seemed strange to me as well so I tried it and it
works fine.
I can't speak to the two drive issue. That one, it seems to me, could
definitely cause a heating issue. The HD runs much warmer than an optical
drive and for a longer amount of time.
Remember there are no fans for cooling in the Mac Book Pro. 

Now, if I could find a mixing surface for 8 channels that was as light as my
Mac Book Pro then I'd really have something. LOL

Best,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:17 PM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing

Just did a bit of reading on Kevin's 3rd party DIY upgrade idea. I always
thought there's something special to apple memory but turns out they use
normal memory mostly samsung and hynix not even kingston and I'm a huge fan
of kingston ram. As for the hard drives looks like they mostly use seagate
which is fine with me I only use seagate drives they are the most relyable
in my experience. I don't know how apple can say a MBP with max ram and 7200
RPM hard drive can cause heat problems because you can order it from them
that way so obviously they did some testing and why give people that option
if it causes problems. Oh and on the MBP I've seen posts in a few places
that new MBP's will be released in the next week or two, only upgrades is
the processors they will have sandybridge I5 processors can't remember if
there's I7's as well. Think you'll get a 2.2 GHz a 2.6 GHz and a 2.8 but I
could be wrong can't exactly remember, also know they said it will stay the
same price as the current ones.

Brian Casey wrote:
 That seems a bit crazy! I'm no computing genious but I would have 
 thought that wouldn't make a difference. Especially if it's a server. 
 I wonder what the smallist/cheepist screen on the market is, something 
 the size of an iPhone or something could e magical solution. Maybe the 
 Macbook is just the best option though, but having two hard drives would
be great.

 Any comments on portability?

 Thanks,
 Brian.

 --
 From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:13 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing

  The catch with the minis is that you need a screen for it to run at 
  optimum levels. Oddly enough, at least with my mini, which is mid 
  2009, without a monitor, the system is very sluggish. Many other 
  folks have noticed this as well. However, I'm not sure if this is 
  also true for the newest minis or the mini server.

The instrument pac from Avid accessible?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

The subject says it all. If I buy it can I use it?

 

Comments on PT 10? Should I upgrade? Will it work? I know the new hardware
will support it fine. Quad core with 16GB RAM.

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

RE: Found PT 9.05

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Actually if you did a cross-grade you get some dmg files. I think the
upgrade thingy is in there somewhere. Right?


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:52 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Found PT 9.05

The upgrade from version 8 to version 9 is a paid upgrade so, at a certain
point, you should've received a dVD if you bought an upgrade to Pro Tools
version 9.

Best,

Slau

On Oct 9, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

 Hi Slau,
 
 no, unfortunately it is the DVD for PT 8.04 and so I'm wondering wether
it's possible to install that version on my machine and run the software
updater. Do you know that?
 
 Thanks and
 all the best
 Jürgen
 Am 09.10.2011 um 18:53 schrieb Slau Halatyn:
 
 Hey Jürgen
 
 You have the dVD for Pro Tools 9, right? Simply install from the dVD and
run the Software Updater application from the Pro Tools folder. It's a piece
of cake. If you never had the DVD (although I'm not sure how that would be
possible), copy your digidesign folder from any TimeMachine or
CarbonCopyCloner backup. I'm assuming you have backups of your system
somewhere?
 
 Slau
 
 On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Jürgen
 

RE: Mbox pro

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Also be aware of the fact that you may have a firewire 400 and a firewire
800 prot.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monkey Pusher
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:55 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mbox pro

Firewire devices usually have two firewire ports. Use one to connect
the unit to the computer,  the other is so u can connect another
firewire device the computer that passes through the MBOX. That way if
you computer  only has one firewire port like most moderm macs, you
can still use more than one firewire devices. It doesn't matter which
is used for which, just  connect any of the two to the computer  and
any other firewire devices to the other port, and so on and so on down
the line.

On 9/27/11, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Awesome, cheers. And sorry, but I can't find anything on the net about
this,
 why are there two firewire ports on the unit?

 Cheers, and sorry for all the stupid questions.

 Take care,
 Chris Norman

 Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
 Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]
 Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7
 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7

 Follow my music on Facebook:
 www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject
 Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject
 The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at:
 www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2

 On 27 Sep 2011, at 12:40, Stephen Martin wrote:

 2 headphones outs each with their own level control on the front. also
the
 phantom power,  DIM/mute button for all the speakers, mono/stereo button
 so u can quickly listen to your mixes in mono, and the A/B/C button so u
 can quickly cycle through and audition all your different monitors  are
 all in the same area. There is another button in that area on the right
 side of the  front panel and it eludes me at the moment what its for.
When
 i installed it on SL the control panel wasn't accessible, if you don't
 have a sighted friend or family who can help u set it up, call avid tech
 support and have one of their techs remote into your system and set it up
 to your liking. All the analog inputs have a 75 hz hi pass filter that
can
 only be turned on in there, and thats where u set it to 3 pairs of
 monitors or a 5.1 surround speaker set up. let me know if u have any
other
 questions.
 On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Chris Norman wrote:

 The Mbox pro has no headphone output?

 Take care,
 Chris Norman.

 Email and msn: chris.norm...@googlemail.com
 Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com]

RE: Problems with PT 9 and MBox II

[J. R. Westmoreland]

There is a driver that has to be installed for 9.x and then you have to
start PT9 and when the splash screen appears I think you press I to
re-initialize drivers.
There is a Tech note about it but I don't remember the details right now.
I had  to do this when I installed PT9 as well.
Maybe Kevin will remember what had to happen. He has a mind like a steel
trap. grin

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Abdul D Kamara
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:47 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problems with PT 9 and MBox II

Hello All,

I have recently upgraded to PT 9.0.3 from 8.0.5.

PT does not seem to recognise or see my MBox.  I am in a track able to
configure the I/O settings of the interface, but each time I arm the track
it seems that my computer hardware is the one being used.

I have much to read on this matter, but I was wondering if someone could
give me a clue as to how to start addressing this issue.

I just wanted to point out that previously I have been running Mac OS
10.6.8.  But in light of outstanding compatibility issues, I downgraded to
10.6.3.

A

RE: Problems with PT 9 and MBox II

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Slau,

As I mentioned I actually had to do the I key while at the splash screen
to re-init the i/o devices. I first tried everything you mentioned and it
still didn't work so after a call to tech support that is what they told me
to do.
As I understood it if you installed the driver before starting PT for the
first time it usually worked. Otherwise, you had to add the other step.

Best,
J. R.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:14 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems with PT 9 and MBox II

Hi Abdul,

You need to install the driver for the MBox. Before Avid opened up Pro Tools
to different interfaces, it was all very automatic but now one needs to
install the proper driver/drivers for the corresponding interface. In
version 8, you had it all set up automatically but in version 9 you have to
take that extra step.

The reason you're getting the signal out of your laptop is because, if an
interface isn't detected (because of a missing driver), Pro Tools will
automatically create an aggregate device which includes core Audio devices
like your built-in microphone, line input and built-in speakers.

Once you've installed the MBox driver, you'll probably have to go into the
Playback engine setup window and select the MBox as the audio engine. Pro
tools will automatically save your settings and it should just work. If, for
some reason you still don't get anything after making this change, just
restart your computer and it should work fine.

HTH,

Slau

RE: pt update 9.03

[J. R. Westmoreland]

That is good to know. I think under the circumstances I will have to take
the chance.

I'm running 10.6.8 and there isn't an easy back. LOL

 

Best,

J. R.

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:28 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pt update 9.03

 

Here is what the support guy said.

Hello Jean 

 

Although not officially qualified, the only issue we are currently aware of
with 10.6.8 is when using an HD|Native card. 

 

but please ensure you re-iterate the fact that 10.6.8 is not officially
qualified with Pro Tools at this time/ 
We cannot help (or be held responsible) with any issues that may arise from
unning Pro Tools on 10.6.8 (at this time) 

 

Regards, 

 

Avid Audio Technical Support  
 
 
JPR

 

http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel

- Original Message - 

From: Frank Carmickle mailto:fr...@carmickle.com  

To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:24 PM

Subject: Re: pt update 9.03

 

Hello J P 

 

9.0.3 does not fix the problems with 10.6.8.  It looks like some people are
having success running 10.6.8 with pro tools.  The hd core card drivers seem
to be the real trouble spot.  That said I don't recommend moving to 10.6.8
until it's all sorted out.  Let's hope Avid certify it soon cause there are
some secure fixes in 10.6.8 and I'm getting tired of saying no to software
updater.  I'll go turn it off now before it bugs me again.

 

Take care

--FC

On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:40 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:





Hi ProTools experts,
after my first ProTools launch, I was warned that a new update was
available. I installed it to but I don't know where to look for release
notes. Does anyone know if it solve the osx 10 point six point eight issue?
Thanks for your help,
JPR

http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel

 

RE: Control Surface

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I'm using a command-8. I like it so far. The only thing it doesn't have that
would be nice is a scrub wheel.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monkey Pusher
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:06 AM
To: ptaccess
Subject: Control Surface

Hello Again, So as i said  earlier  new to this world. So after
checking out some audio workshops/tutorials by Slau and Kevin Reeves,
it  became appearant  that a control surface makes certain things alot
easier. SO what are you guys out there using? Any reccomendations?
Currently using PT 9 with an MBox Pro if that matters.

Thanks.

RE: 2 questions about Mac Screen reader

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I have not found the numpad required to help with Voiceover. But, It is very
very useful for Pro Tools.

There is an issue with using a Bluetooth keyboard and a Bluetooth numpad. If
you have this combination you will have the modifier key thrown away by Mac
OS. I solved the problem by purchasing a USB keyboard for around $40 and it
had the numpad and the keyboard together. If you are ordering the Mac you
can possible specify that you want it that way. In my case I have an extra
keyboard and numpad. LOL

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jake
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:23 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: 2 questions about Mac Screen reader

 

I am a PC user just dipping my toe in to the world of Mac. As such I have 2
fairly general questions. First how important is the numpad? On Windows the
Screen Readers are heavily tied to the numpad for functions like navigation,
I was wondering if this was true of Macs. The other question is more of a PT
question. I remember reading some where that there were some issues with PT
regarding wireless devises, having to many or the wrong ones or some thing
and I was hoping for some clarification on this, should I stay away from a
wireless keyboard and mouse?

 

thanks much

Jake

RE: A jingle I recorded for a client.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Good job, Kevin.
Ignoring the mix part which you said to do, the rest is very well done.
I'd love to play with the mix part of that one. LOL I'm not in the same
league, or even close to that league yet, as Slau is but would like to be
some day. I figured out long ago that an musician, in terms of writing and
composing, I'm not. But, I really love the tech part of the task.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Reeves
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:25 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: A jingle I recorded for a client.

Hey folks. Just got through with this jingle I wrote for a client. I was
going for that late 70's early 80's Smooth Jazz feel. Besides the fact that
the mastering bus is a tad over compressed, let me know what you guys think.
Be aware that my strengths are in writing, arranging, lead and backing
vocals, keys, drum programming, sound shaping and design. I'm not a mix or
mastering engineer. I hate mixing. If I had a Preset called Late 70's bob
James, I'd use it. If I had a budget for hiring a mix engineer, I'd do it
in a heartbeat. Needless to say, I am extremely proud of the arrangement and
performances. All was recorded and mixed in Pro Tools 9. All sounds except
for the drums were stock. Some of them are less than desirable, but for now,
they'll have to do. The drums I used was the free Drumcore kits. Anyway,
looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
http://www.kevinreeves.net/WeTalk.mp3

Enjoy.

Kevin

RE: your opinion please

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I'm using my MacBook Pro to do Pro Tools things and it is a core 2 duo
processor. It works fine but you want to be aware that it does, like all
things, have its limits. Memory will help some.

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:18 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: your opinion please

 

 

On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:





Hello Frank and others,

 

Aside from the fact that a Mini doesn't come with a monitor, what would a
Macbook Pro give me that a Mini won't? For example, would I run into
problems while converting MIDI tracks to audio and applying effects?

 

The mini is still a core 2 duo.  This is 2008 technology at best.  I was
hoping they would put an i3 or i5 in the mini in the 2010 model.  Some
speculate that the 2011 model will be coming out soon.  If it moves to a
sandy bridge chip then it would be a viable option.  

 

HTH

--FC

 

Capstone project for PT1010 class

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi all listers,

 

I have two of 6 tracks recorded and ready for editing on my capstone project
for my class.

I learned a lot from having to do the recording without my mixing surface.
LOL How fast we get spoiled.

I did the recording with my Mac Book Pro without a numeric keypad and not
using my fire wire drive.

I am wondering if there is a good way to move down through the various
takes? Also, can I easily take sections from one take and paste them to
another so I get a good one?

 

Thanks everyone for your assistance and also to Mark for his efforts to make
this class a success.

 

J. R.

 

 

RE: dual booting on the mac

[J. R. Westmoreland]

The VMWare Fusion runs quite well if you give it plenty of memory and don't
over commit the Mac. It will work with Jaws but you have to be aware of the
keyboard remapping that has to be done for some keyboards.
I have it on my iMac and it works pretty well.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:40 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: dual booting on the mac

Hey Herman

On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:22 PM, HF wrote:

 What do folks use here for dual booting? Boot camp or VMware Fusion?
 Does VMware work well with VoiceOver and Jaws?
 
Vmware is virtualization not dual booting.  Using boot camp you can boot
either mac os or some other operating system.  When you use vmware fusion
you are running some other OS on mac os.  If you want to use them both at
the same time you would use virtualization.  If you install windows in to a
boot camp partition you can then use that to boot a virtual instance.  This
allows you to use both the virtualized and native install of some other OS.
If you were trying to use the other OS for running a daw then running it
under virtualization is not recommended.  


I don't know anything about windows because I don't use it so can't help you
with he performance under virtualization questions.  I can tell you that
mostly the timing of virtual machines is pretty bad in some cases.  Audio
and midi playback and recording require a stable clock.  I run linux in my
vmware fusion and it works great.  Others report that windows runs even
better on macs with boot camp than it does on some pc hardware.

HTH
--FC

RE: Presets for Structure Free.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I get a 404 not found message.
The link is broken.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:50 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Presets for Structure Free.

Hey folks. Thanks to the kind work of Chuck, we now have all the presets for
Structure Free. Unzip the following folder. Then, open structure, go to the
Settings menu button, choose import, then select the files you want to
import inside that folder. I would imagine you could select all with command
A. Let's see if this works for everyone. Chuck had concerns about this being
violation of copyrights, but these are freely available presets. There's
nothing violating the ula in doing this. Enjoy, and let me know what you
think. If I wasn't in the midst of a ton of client work, I'd do this myself.
tonight. It would be great to get some people's feedback by the time of the
conference. Here's the link.

http://www.kevinreeves.net/StructureFree.zip

Kevin

RE: new user greetings and documentation request

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I had issues scanning it as well.
I finally gave in and used my Optacon since my normal eyes were away. LOL
I think when I had written the numbers down I may have even called Avid to
make sure that I had gotten the right ones.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new user greetings and documentation request

Hi,

Thanks for the welcomes.

Well, i've been doing what's required, got the ilock account, scanned my
slip and OCRd it, but apparently its white on red background print, so i
desaturated the image, increased the contrasts slightly and OCrd it, but
compared to the example activation code entry, none of what my ocr gets is
nearly close in figures.

I've been at this for nearly 3 hours now. What a good start :)

I guess i'll need sighted assistance for this one, duh 

Best 

Yuma 

RE: Introduction and the First questions ;-)

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I'm in the PT 101 course now. I have been able to produce a first recording
and other assignments as required with the Mac and MBox II with Pro Tools 9.
It is doable so far. I say go for it.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tobias Fechner
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:12 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Introduction and the First questions ;-)

Hi Folks,
my Name is Tobias Fechner, I'm 32 years old and live in Hagen, Germany.
If everything Works as planned I'm going to study audio Engineering at the
european academy of media and events in Baden-Baden, Germany.
Our Instructors told me that the sichtet people in the course will use
Protools on the Mac, whereas the blind are going to use Samplitude on
MS-Windows because of accessibility issues with Protools. When I heard that
it suddenly rang loudly in my brain and I remembered an episode of the
Maccessibility podcast in which Slau about his sessions with the programmer
of Digi Design fixing loads of accessibility issues. I informed my
instructors and in case I can proof Protools is accessible they ensured me
to provide me a Mac with a M-Box for my studies. I want that!!! So please
help me guys! *LOL* One of the Major questions they had was the ability to
check and adjust recording levels. Is it possible? Are there any materials
for beginners for the First contact with Protools? When I downloaded the
Zip-File containing the Googlegroups Pages of this group I just got the
welcome Message and an empty index file. 
Any help would be appreciated! 
Best regards from Germany!!!
Tobi

RE: conference

[J. R. Westmoreland]

EST is plus 5 hours from eastern time.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of trahern culver
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:50 PM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: conference

hey all please could some tell me when the confrance will be held next what
time it will be at? and what 9 pm easten standard time is in gmt?
i would like to attend the confrance because i am finaly getting my new pt9
rig soon and a hardware production sampler to go with it! i cant waight!!
foregive my exitment kind regards trahern.

RE: Next conference call.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Could someone repost the info on getting to the conference? I thought I had
it but can't find it.

Thanks,
J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of studiojay
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:31 AM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: Next confrence call.



Frank Carmickle wrote:
 Hi Jason

 Next conf call will be tuesday the 8th at 9:00 pm eastern US. Hope to see
you there.

 --FC

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 2, 2011, at 1:44, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi every one,
  Can some one please tell me when is the next confrence call?
  Thanks a lot.
  JasonThanks Frank, Looking forward. Jason

RE: hello

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Welcome Mark.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:02 PM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: hello

Good afternoon all.
I would like to introduce myself if that's cool.
My name is Mark D. Maxson and I teach Pro Tools 101 and 110 at Weber State
University.
I myself am low vision and I current have a gentlemen in my class who is
totally blind.
Thanks.
M.

RE: Midi track setup program changes.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I now trying to figure out how to copy/move something from the region list
to a midi instrument track. I don't seem to be able to import a midi file
such that it creates a new instrument track. The problem comes when I want
to use Xpand2 instruments to play an existing midi file.

I imported the midi file to a region list and now have three midi items on
the region list. I want to now put them one at a time onto three instrument
tracks that I have created and set the insert to be the Grand Piano.

 

Can I do this? How?

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Reichel
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 5:28 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Midi track setup  program changes.

 

Hi JR,

 

Since your on midi have you found a way to insert a program change that
actually stays in the track?

 

I have been poking around the PT midi tracks and can change  banks and
program changes.

 also some what use the midnam files in the midi track.

BTW the midnam files do display there patch names just fine after entering
the program #.

 After a re launch of the pt session containing the midi tracks the next day
the program changes are not staying in the track!

any 1 having the same results?

Is there a keyboard command to insert a program change?Thanks

 

On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:45 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:





Hi,

 

We are now in Chapter 6 on the PT101 course book.

This chapter is recording and working with MIDI.

 

I have the MIDI keyboard up and running, a JV 35 by Roland. It was a bit
tricky but mostly because it was one of those where you have to change from
local: on to local: off, on being the default, This is one of those
cases where you have to be able to see the LED display on the keyboard. The
bad part is that it claims in the book that the parameter isn't saved which
means you have to do it every time the keyboard is powered up. Anyway, it is
working now.

 

I created a blank session, then created a new instrument track. According
to my instructor and the book this allows the use of xpand2 pack.

If I follow the procedure we used in class and the book there are at least
one place where you must use the mouse, maybe even two.

Does someone have a procedure they use when doing this that is fast and no
mouse required?

 

Second, I want to select and record 4 bars for a drum loop, I suspect I will
use these later to duplicate for the track. In the book they have you drag
from bar 1 through 4 to select them as a region? Then record them. What is
the best way to accomplish this procedure?

Can I set the start and end info in the counters area then somehow select
it?

 

It would be nice to take this text and set up an alternative set or
procedures that could be used by the visually impaired. Maybe I should write
down what works and collect them together for the next person who attempts
this cert effort. This would be a good time to do this since the book is
VERY new, we couldn't get them for the class until Jan 7th. I'm still trying
to get an accessible version of the book that isn't just a scanned version.
LOL

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

Best,

J. R.

 

 

 

 

Chuck Reichel

954-742-0019

www.SoundPictureRecording.com

 

 

 

What lossless formats will Pro Tools handle on import?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi all,

 

I'm doing an assignment for my Pro Tools 101 class and have to import a
number of tracks, clip segments from them, butt splice them together, and
bounce the result back to disk as an mp3 file. I then have to take that
result and cross fade the segments into each other and bounce that to disk.

 

I can import the files directly from CD if needed but have all of them
already in FLAC format. That format appears to give the Mac fits. Does Pro
Tools handle this format? Is there another lossless format that would be
better?

 

I ask because I'm having to re-do all my CDs for my broadcasting anyway and
would like to have a format that is compatible between the systems. Sorry if
this is a bit far afield.

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

RE: Pro Tools 101. Was, Re: What lossless formats will Pro Tools handle on import?

[J. R. Westmoreland]

I'm taking the class at the university which is certified to admin the
official course.

Wes, we are using the official course book for the course.

It is brand new from Avid on the 27th of December 2010.

Getting the book in accessible format has been a beast so far. 

I'm using a Command 8 to assist me over the humps in the road so far.

I'll keep you posted.

 

I'd like to actually do the complete course set and get the certificate but
we shall see. LOL

 

Best,

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Reeves
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:30 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pro Tools 101. Was, Re: What lossless formats will Pro Tools handle
on import?

 

Hey J. r.

Are you taking the official pro tools 101 course, which will award you the
operator cert? If so, can you please keep us posted as to what parts of the
requirements cause you to ddelve into inaccessible parts of PT? Are you
actually using the 101 official courseware? I'm thinking of doing that
course myself and going to an official pro tools school to take the tests.
Would love to get your take on thins so far. Please keep us posted on this.
Thanks so much.

 

Kevin





Hi all,

 

I'm doing an assignment for my Pro Tools 101 class and have to import a
number of tracks, clip segments from them, butt splice them together, and
bounce the result back to disk as an mp3 file. I then have to take that
result and cross fade the segments into each other and bounce that to disk.

 

I can import the files directly from CD if needed but have all of them
already in FLAC format. That format appears to give the Mac fits. Does Pro
Tools handle this format? Is there another lossless format that would be
better?

 

I ask because I'm having to re-do all my CDs for my broadcasting anyway and
would like to have a format that is compatible between the systems. Sorry if
this is a bit far afield.

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

 

A test

[J. R. Westmoreland]

This is to see if the silly thing unsubscribed the right address.

 

RE: automation deletion

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Sometimes I'm convinced that is what is required to get the Mac to do some
things. LOL
Kind of like doing a restore to a time machine backup point.
I broke Pro Tools and had to do just that to get things back.
Well, actually, Dropbox was in the mix as well. LOL

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:28 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: automation deletion

Chuck,

Be more specific. Do you mean Control-Delete after the steps I described or
Control-Delete anywhere in the track? Control-Delete while Volume is showing
or does Waveform view work as well? Did you see this somewhere in the
documentation? If so, please indicate where. Does one have to stand on one
leg while holding  an XLR cable in the left hand while whistling La
Boheme?

slau

On Feb 21, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

 Hi Frank  Slau,
 
 Hit control delete this will delete ALL automation for that track.
 This works almost all the time for me! LOL
 
 YMMV
 
 On Feb 21, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 
 Frank,
 
 Theoretically, you're following the right concept. Did you scrub in the
track before deleting? Is it the only track that's selected? Did you press
Return then Shift-Option-return to select everything?
 
 Slau
 
 On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:59 AM, Frank Carmickle wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Vinny and I were talking about deleting automation this evening.  I have
a pass on volume automation that I want to delete so I selected volume on
the track view selector in the edit window.  Then I believe to have selected
the whole session then I hit delete.  Doesn't seem to work.  The track that
I have selected still wants to follow the automation.  Am I missing
something?
 
 Thanks
 --FC
 
 
 
 Chuck Reichel
 954-742-0019
 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
 
 
 

RE: Archive.

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Is looks like you can get at most older stuff through the discussion topics
list.

 

J. R.

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pino Guarraci
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 9:26 AM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Archive.

 

Dear all,

 

Do someone know if there is an archive in the Googlegroups where I can
find all emails regarding the accessibility of Pro Tools since the
beginning?

Maby it's a good idea to read some of this messages to avoud asking always
the same questions.

Many thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Pino

www.studiocrescendo.be
www.proguide.eu

Scrubbing

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi all,

 

I have a Mac Book Pro with one of the new Magic Pads on it.

Is there a way to use this in place of a scrub wheel?

Is there a way to get a scrub wheel external?

 

I recall many years ago with a very old version of Pro Tools you could use
the mouse to scrub. I was able to use this method pretty successfully.

Now with VO it would seem that it might work much better.

 

Suggestions gratefully accepted.

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

A consolidated keystrokes command list

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi,

 

Does anyone know of a consolidated list that has all the commands and their
key strokes listed?

 

Thanks,

J. R.

 

RE: Pro Tools 9 Accessibility

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Yes. Set it up and I will come running.
This would be great. I have often wanted to do some simple things like I do
with Soundforge but wasn't sure how to make it work.

J. R.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Solitro
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:34 AM
To: Pro Tools Accessibility
Subject: Re: Pro Tools 9 Accessibility

Slau, this discussion has whet my appetite for a training on editing
in PT with VO. Just FYI

On Feb 11, 8:52 am, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi J.R.,

 Well, I learned Pro Tools back in 1995 so I can't say I'm familiar with
the tune but, regardless, the same techniques apply.

 There's an issue that is possibly at work here and, putting that aside for
a moment, let's assume that what I'm suggesting might be a possibility isn't
in fact an issue and assume that everything is normal.

 OK, first of all, to be able to split a region, one must have an insertion
point in a track. to create an insertion point, one would usually click with
the selector Tool. Since that's not easy, we instead use either a scrub
wheel (which I don't believ the Command|8 has) or the shuttle mode. Press
Control-1 through 9 on the numeric keypad. 5 is normal speed, 1 is slowest
and 9 is fastest. It deosn't matter how long you shuttle or where you stop
because all we're trying to do is create an insertion point (much like a
flashing cursor in a text document) within a track.

 Now, I'm going to speak in general terms about a given track. Let's say
you have a single audio track with regions in it. To get to the end of a
track, you'd press Option-Return. That's the command for getting to the end
of a session. So, if you have another track showing that is longer, pressing
Option-return will take you to the end of the longer track. So, in other
words, if you're scrubbing in a vocal track that ends at bar 91 but there's
a piano track that ends at bar 99, scrubbing or shuttling in the vocal track
and pressing Option-Return would put the insertion point at bar 99. However,
if the vocal track is the only track being shown (that is, not hidden),
pressing Option-return would take you to bar 91 because it's the last item
in the visible session. If you were to then show a track that extended to
bar 120 and press Option-Return, you'd throw the insertion point all the way
to bar 120.

 Let's say, however, you were showing only one track and that track
extended to bar 100 but you wanted to cut it at bar 90. After initially
having scrubbed in it to create an insertion point, you can use the num pad
to enter the position where you want the insertion to be placed. So, in this
case, you'd press asterisk to highlight the Main field in the counter
display then you'd enter 90 and press Enter on the num pad. Now your
insertion point is at bar 90. To select everything from bar 90 to the end,
press Option-Return along with shift which, as you might guess, selects
everything to the end of the visible session, in this case, a single track.
With the selection made, pressing Delete or back Space deletes that portion
of whatever was in the track.

 Now, let's say you wanted to delete more than one track and you wanted to
get rid of stuff on other tracks as well as what you were scrubbing or
shuttling through on one track. You'd have to enable the All Group which
selects all tracks whether they're showing or not. So, if you were to make
the all group active and scrub or shuttle within a vocal track, for example,
got to bar 87 and decided to select to the end, now you'd only select 3 bars
because the only thing that's showing is the vocal track which we just cut
to bar 90. If you were to delete those three bars, you'd be deleting
everything in all tracks between bars 87 and 90. So, you see, it's helpful
to show tracks you're working on when you're dealing with editing the ends
of tracks. There are times when you'll want to show only the tracks you're
working on. I won't get into that minutiå here.

 Here are a few things to remember, to move the insertion point up or down
between tracks in the Edit window, use Control-p and Control-; (semicolon).

 Now, to raise the issue which I mentioned initially which may or may not
be a factor here. If there's an event in the Ruler display like a tempo
event or marker, it will be regarded as an event just like a region is a
kind of event in a timeline. So, while your audio might end at 4 minutes, if
there's a marker at 25 minutes and that particular ruler is showing,
pressing Option-Return will take the insertion point right to 25 minutes.
So, it might be a good idea to make sure that only the bar|beat or
minutes:seconds display is showing.
 I suppose that's it for now. I'm copying the PTAccess list because this
might help someone else.

 Cheers,

 Slau

 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:07 AM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote:



  Here is a probably very simple question.
  I assume that you have played with the demo session

New member

[J. R. Westmoreland (GeneralJR)]

Well, I'm now signed up for this group, I think. I hope it is smart enough
to not do it twice. grin

 

Questions to follow as soon as a do a bit of reading.

 

J. R.

 

Recommendations for Fire wire disks

[J. R. Westmoreland]

Hi everyone,

 

In my class today the recommendation was made that I should get a Fire wire
disk for recording.

I have a Mac Book Pro with a 500gb drive internal. Is this disk a necessary
item? Will the internal drive work? I suspect that the issue is disk write
speed. Is that correct?

 

If I buy a disk, should I get an external one or a portable one? What are
the pros and cons of each choice? Are there recommendations as to brand of
disk? I will buy a Fire wire 800 drive if I get one.

They have several at the Apple store for a pretty good price.

I have been buying Western Digital as a rule and have several different
MyBook drives in different sizes.

 

Thanks for comments and ideas.

 

Best,

J. R.