qmail Digest 1 May 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 988

2000-05-01 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 1 May 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 988

Topics (messages 40743 through 40763):

Re: need help with POP3...
40743 by: Tomek Lipski
40759 by: Colin Humphreys

Re: AntiVirus packages.
40744 by: Roy-Magne Mo
40745 by: Rainer Link

Re: Can't send via Mail.app on NeXT
40746 by: Claus Färber

Special character mappings for .qmail file names
40747 by: David Dyer-Bennet
40749 by: Tomek Lipski
40754 by: Bryan Curnutt
40757 by: David Dyer-Bennet

Got local mail working.. not remote.
40748 by: qmail.stgo.cl
40751 by: Tomek Lipski
40753 by: Bryan Curnutt

fastforward and vpopmail conflict ?
40750 by: PPPindia

qmail-queue trouble
40752 by: Eric Jennings

Re: Default forwarding address for virtual domain in users/assign
40755 by: Bryan Curnutt

send mail to remote hosts...
40756 by: qmail.stgo.cl
40758 by: Bob Rogers
40760 by: Mrs. Brisby

Limit file size--HELP HELP HELP
40761 by: Shakaib Sayyid
40763 by: Uwe Ohse

Openbsd qmail port
40762 by: Dale Miracle

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[cut]
> I am trying to use Maildir for mail delivery. 
> I created one test user with the /Maildir/ architecture and he receives
> mail allright. if I do a "ls -FR" I see the following:
[cut]
> so the mails do arrive... But I can't seem to pick them up!!
> Both pine and "mail" work with a single file.. as does POP3
> So when ever i check the mailbox remotely via port 110 it tells me that
> the mailbox is empty.
pine and propably your pop3 deamon are not supporting Maildir mbox formats
- for pine there is a patch at http://www.qmail.org/ [or use another
fine MUA like mutt ] and qmail distribution comes with an Maildir-based 
pop3 deamon [check qmail-popup, qmail-pop3d and checkpassword man pages]
anyway you can always setup qmail to deliver messages to plaintext mbox -
do to this copy /var/qmail/boot/home to /var/qmail/rc 
> I thought I had it configured at one point.. before I killed sendmail for
> good, that Maildir was actually a file, not a directory.
> Also.. Since I have to execute makemaildir for each new user.. is there a
> way that I can "tie" that command with uesradd? i am using redhat 6.1.
afaik leenoox systems also have skel system - try making maildir in
/usr/share/skel directory [works under *BSD]


--
Tomek Lipski
email: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] gsm: [ +48 606 787 423 ]
Eclipse ISP http://www.ecl.pl/
Czestochowa Al. NMP 31 tel. 034 3665011





under redhat the skel dir is in /etc/skel/

Tomek Lipski wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [cut]
> > I am trying to use Maildir for mail delivery.
> > I created one test user with the /Maildir/ architecture and he receives
> > mail allright. if I do a "ls -FR" I see the following:
> [cut]
> > so the mails do arrive... But I can't seem to pick them up!!
> > Both pine and "mail" work with a single file.. as does POP3
> > So when ever i check the mailbox remotely via port 110 it tells me that
> > the mailbox is empty.
> pine and propably your pop3 deamon are not supporting Maildir mbox formats
> - for pine there is a patch at http://www.qmail.org/ [or use another
> fine MUA like mutt ] and qmail distribution comes with an Maildir-based
> pop3 deamon [check qmail-popup, qmail-pop3d and checkpassword man pages]
> anyway you can always setup qmail to deliver messages to plaintext mbox -
> do to this copy /var/qmail/boot/home to /var/qmail/rc
> > I thought I had it configured at one point.. before I killed sendmail for
> > good, that Maildir was actually a file, not a directory.
> > Also.. Since I have to execute makemaildir for each new user.. is there a
> > way that I can "tie" that command with uesradd? i am using redhat 6.1.
> afaik leenoox systems also have skel system - try making maildir in
> /usr/share/skel directory [works under *BSD]
>
> --
> Tomek Lipski
> email: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] gsm: [ +48 606 787 423 ]
> Eclipse ISP http://www.ecl.pl/
> Czestochowa Al. NMP 31 tel. 034 3665011

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On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 01:24:14PM -0400, Steve Peace wrote:
> Does anybody know of a good antivirus package I can put on my RedHat 6.1, 
> Qmail 1.03 server that may possibly be able to scan incoming messages for 
> viruses?  If not I guess I will have to trust my users to not download and 
> execute any questionable attachments and actually trust them to scan there 
> own PCs for viruses every so oft

smtproutes

2000-05-01 Thread Martin Roest

Hi,

Is it possible to create user-based smtproutes like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:foo

I need to route every mailaddr in the domain to another mailserver
except one.
It would be nice to do this with smtproutes.

Thnx in advance,
-- 
Roest, M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ibuildings.nl -- information architects
tel: 0118 415054, fax: 0118 413314



Re: Limit file size--HELP HELP HELP

2000-05-01 Thread Len Budney

Shakaib Sayyid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> ...there is one user who wants to send a file thats ~20M. Is there a
> way to do this?

Instruct the user to send it in five pieces.

Such a huge email is likely to jam the recipients' POP accounts; they
will have to ask their ISPs to delete the message so that they can
fetch the rest of their mail.

Multiple pieces are less likely to mess things up. Plus, while the
recipient is waiting for that hour, at least he will see the message
count increase every twelve minutes.

If the recipients use windows, and don't have any split/unsplit
utilities (available from tucows), then have the user stick it in his
web space, and make him pay the over-quota charge for that month.

Len.

--
Anyone can create an encryption algorithm that he himself cannot break.
-- Bruce Schneier



Re: send mail to remote hosts...

2000-05-01 Thread Paul Schinder

At 10:35 PM -0400 4/30/00, Mrs. Brisby wrote:
>   2) pop3 command XTND XMIT.
>   obvious PRO: no second connection necessary!
>   obvious CON: needs a custom client. I am looking for 
>one of these (preferably for windows and/or macos)
>-- anyone want to let me know of one?

You mean server or client?  Eudora implements XTND XMIT (definitely 
on MacOS, probably on Windoze).  That's why Qualcomm's qpopper also 
implements XTND XMIT.  Of course, using qpopper means using mbox 
rather than Maildir.
-- 
--
Paul J. Schinder
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Code 693
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Problems exiting and sending and receiving.. well, that's about everything I guess..

2000-05-01 Thread Chad Day

Having all sorts of problems all of a sudden, ever since my queue choked due
to running out of disk space, I flushed it out, and ran queue-fix.  After
fixing the directory problems, it now returns:

Found files in /var/qmail/queue/pid that shouldn't be there.
I will not remove them. You should consider checking it out.

queue-fix finished...


There are a few 0 byte files there.. I don't know what to do with them
though.  Is it safe to delete them?


Whenever I try to stop qmail now, I get:
Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
/var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
 logging.

I thought that was supposed to be a file?  Either way, it IS a file, and I
haven't touched it, so I'm unsure of what's broken there, or how it became
so.  Appears to shutdown though..

When sending mail, I get "mailer returned error status 111".  

Nothing really odd turning up in my logs..

May  1 08:04:32 zoq qmail: 957186272.158884 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
May  1 08:10:32 zoq qmail: 957186632.826453 status: exiting

So I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting that..


I can connect to the mail server fine with my pop3 account, but am unable to
receive any mail that should be coming in.

Can someone tell me where to start?

Thanks,
Chad



RE: Limit file size--HELP HELP HELP

2000-05-01 Thread Andy Huhn

I don't know what MUA your users are using, but I believe M$ Outlook has an
option that allows users to split up large outgoing attachments into chunks
of a specifiable size.

Andy Huhn
DataSwitch Information Services, Inc.
http://www.stormwarn.com
Get Customized Weather Bulletins Sent to Email, Fax, or Pager for as low as
$2.00/month!

> -Original Message-
> From: Len Budney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Limit file size--HELP HELP HELP
>
>
> Shakaib Sayyid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ...there is one user who wants to send a file thats ~20M. Is there a
> > way to do this?
>
> Instruct the user to send it in five pieces.
>
> Such a huge email is likely to jam the recipients' POP accounts; they
> will have to ask their ISPs to delete the message so that they can
> fetch the rest of their mail.
>
> Multiple pieces are less likely to mess things up. Plus, while the
> recipient is waiting for that hour, at least he will see the message
> count increase every twelve minutes.
>
> If the recipients use windows, and don't have any split/unsplit
> utilities (available from tucows), then have the user stick it in his
> web space, and make him pay the over-quota charge for that month.
>
> Len.
>
> --
> Anyone can create an encryption algorithm that he himself cannot break.
>   -- Bruce Schneier
>




RE: Problems exiting and sending and receiving.. well, that's about e verything I guess..

2000-05-01 Thread Chad Day

Nevermind on this one, can be ignored.  Forgot to chmod qmail-queue back to
4711 as indicated in the qmail-queue-fix instructions.  Would certainly
cause a problem I suppose. :)



-Original Message-
From: Chad Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Problems exiting and sending and receiving.. well, that's about
e verything I guess..


Having all sorts of problems all of a sudden, ever since my queue choked due
to running out of disk space, I flushed it out, and ran queue-fix.  After
fixing the directory problems, it now returns:

Found files in /var/qmail/queue/pid that shouldn't be there.
I will not remove them. You should consider checking it out.

queue-fix finished...


There are a few 0 byte files there.. I don't know what to do with them
though.  Is it safe to delete them?


Whenever I try to stop qmail now, I get:
Stopping qmail: svscan qmailsvc: warning: unable to chdir to
/var/qmail/supervise/nohup.out: not a directory
 logging.

I thought that was supposed to be a file?  Either way, it IS a file, and I
haven't touched it, so I'm unsure of what's broken there, or how it became
so.  Appears to shutdown though..

When sending mail, I get "mailer returned error status 111".  

Nothing really odd turning up in my logs..

May  1 08:04:32 zoq qmail: 957186272.158884 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
May  1 08:10:32 zoq qmail: 957186632.826453 status: exiting

So I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting that..


I can connect to the mail server fine with my pop3 account, but am unable to
receive any mail that should be coming in.

Can someone tell me where to start?

Thanks,
Chad



LF Patch

2000-05-01 Thread Mike Lichtenwalner

My mailserver needs to interact with several other servers that send line feeds 
instead of LF-CR.  After spending much time in the archives, it seems that the best 
solution to the "LF in the body of a message" problem is to patch qmail (as opposed to 
the fixcr solution).  Where can I find this patch for a Linux (RH 6.1) system running 
qmail 1.03?  And, in a nutshell, how is the patch applied?

Thanks for any help!
Mike

_
Mike Lichtenwalner
Senior Technology Systems Technician
Penn Manor School District
Millersville, PA





Re: "Multi-RCPT vs. Single RCPT delivery" - logic error?

2000-05-01 Thread Chris Shenton

On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:02:06 -0500 (EST), Chris Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Chris> we do web development for an organization that has a PR firm
Chris> develop brochures and then send them to us for posting on their
Chris> website.  The files are often 7-10 MB in size, large enough to
Chris> be cumbersome for e-mail, small enough to make overnighting a
Chris> ZIP disk seem a little excessive.
[...]

Chris> I'd be interested to hear if anyone's found a good general
Chris> solution to this in a production/business environment.

There are a number of sites out there which allow WAN-based file
sharing.

At the risk of getting flamed...

I worked on one which is targetted at exactly this problem.  The
"sender" uploads the file via WWW, selects who he wants to "send" it
to, they get an email notification and download the file via the URL
provided in the mail.  It ain't rocket-science and folks have found it
easy to use.  It's totally free, there's currently no advertising, and
only the sender has to get an account to upload.  Currently user space
is 50MB and files expire after 7 days.  See:

http://www.WhaleMail.com/






Re: LF Patch

2000-05-01 Thread Len Budney

Mike Lichtenwalner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...patch qmail (as opposed to the fixcr solution)...

I'm staying out of this; it's sure to provoke a holy war.

However, do please be aware that the patched qmail _will_ corrupt some
messages, in the name of compatibility with software which flagrantly
violates the standards.

Even if you do adopt the solution you mention, please do consider
informing the other postmasters that their software is violating the
standards, and at least suggest that they fix their servers.

Len.

> Millersville, PA

Hey, we're practically neighbors!

--
Frugal Tip #36:
Take the stairs instead of the elevator. No, wait -- that belongs on the
"How to Develop Steely, Rock-Hard Buns" list. Sorry.



Re: excepting subdomain from wildcard?

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is there an easy way to make exceptions to the ".neurohub.net" wildcard,
>without listing every host in the ".neurohub.net" zone in rcpthosts (or
>morercpthosts) and virtualdomains?

You can list exceptions in the virtualdomains file but leave
rcpthosts as-is, which means it'll just relay to the excepted
hosts. E.g., in control/virtualdomains:

  dev.neurohub.net:
  .dev.neurohub.net:
  .neurohub.net:virtual

-Dave



Re: "Multi-RCPT vs. Single RCPT delivery" - logic error?

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

Dave Kitabjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Regarding: http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#multi-rcpt
>
>Dave S,
>
>I'm having trouble accepting this logic. You mention 3 options:
>
>"Say you're an MTA, and one of your users sends a message to three
>people on hostx.example.com. There are several ways you could do this.
>
>   1. You could open an SMTP connection to hostx, send a copy of
>the message to the first user, send a copy to the second user, send a
>copy to the third user, then close the connection. 
>   2. You could start three processes, each of which opens an SMTP
>connection to hostx, sends a copy of the message to one of the users,
>then closes the connection. 
>   3. You could open an SMTP connection to host, send a copy of the
>message addressed to all three users, then close the connection. "
>
>and that qmail uses option #2. Clearly, the rank of efficiency is, from
>best to worst,: 3, 1, 2

That's the rank of bandwidth efficiency, yes. Bandwidth isn't the only 
consideration, though, and I think this section covers the others
pretty well (speed, VERP's, simplicity of design).

>We had a situation with a customer who was consulting for a college. So
>every few days, she had to send a 10MB PowerPoint file to about 50
>recipients at that college. Under qmail, a separate thread was opened up
>for each qmail-remote. 

1) qmail was designed for well-connected hosts,
2) SMTP was not designed for this type of use. FTP or HTTP would be
   better because they're "pull" protocols, not "push" protocols,
   so they allow those with the desire and the bandwidth to retrieve
   the files, and,
3) this is one of those pathological cases I referred to where
   single RCPT is slower than multi-RCPT.

>We love qmail, and it's working very well for us in general. But I'm
>having a hard time reconciling your logic in this paragraph. Perhaps you
>could clarify for me.

I don't see where my login needs reconciling. I said "Single RCPT
delivery does use more bandwidth than multiple RCPT delivery..." and
"there are pathological cases where it can be slower than multiple
RCPT", but that's not inconsistent with single RCPT being faster in
most cases and better overall.

-Dave



Re: Newbie setting up aliases

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

Bob Waskosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi. I'm having a very difficult time setting up my aliases. I just have
>a linux box and want to use qmail/mutt for my email. My ISP POP3 email
>address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I also have email on my virtualave
>website server [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is just forwarded to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

You can use getmail or fetchmail to grab the messages from your ISP
and deliver them locally.

>How do I set up my aliases so this mail is sent to
>my ~/Maildir?

That's either a getmail or a fetchmail question. Install one of them
and read the documentation.

Here's a pointer to getmail. Fetchmail is widely available.

  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail/

-Dave



Re: archive to the web

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is there a utility or program to place the archive for my mailing list on
>a web site?

I use MHonArc for the ORNL qmail archives. See:

  http://www.mhonarc.org/

There are several other similar tools.

-Dave



RE: "Multi-RCPT vs. Single RCPT delivery" - logic error?

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Kitabjian

Thank you all for your feedback.

> I don't see where my login needs reconciling. 

Yes, I realized after I sent the email that your logic was not flawed.
(Your login is probably okay, too ;)

Thanks again.

Dave (K)



Re: CAN SEND - BUT CANNOT RECEIVE

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

"Kyle Gannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Did a telnet localhost 25
>failed
>
>tcp.smtp (in /etc) is such:
>
>ech "127.0.0.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=\"\"" > /etc/tcp.smtp
>echo "another IP"  " "  ""  "
>echo "domainname""   "   "   "

Ugh. Are your host/domain names Top Secret? Why not just show us the
actual contents since the problem is often a typo?

>sendmail hashed out in /etc/services (port 25)

No need. /etc/services just says SMTP is port 25.

>What am I overlooking or doing wrong?

Well, you didn't show us how you're running qmail-smtpd, for one
thing. For another, did you build tcp.smtp.cdb from the current
tcp.smtp?

-Dave



Re: unique configuration

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Here is what I want to do:
>
>-Accept mail destined for any user at any domain (obviously those domains
>will be MX'd to my server)
>-Reply to that user with a message that I define (the same message for all
>users)

Remove control/rcphosts and control/locals. In control/virtualdomains, 
put:

  :alias-catchall

In ~alias/.qmail-catchall, invoke your autoresponder.

-Dave



Re: Default forwarding address for virtual domain in users/assign

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

"Peter Janett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm trying to set up a default forwarding address for virtual domains.  In
>other words, if mail is sent to an address that doesn't specifically exist,
>forward it to specified address.

If you have a virtualdomains entry like:

  example.com:joe-example

Then to catch mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you create
~joe/.qmail-example-info. If you want a catch-all for example.com,
create ~joe/.qmail-example-default.

-Dave



Re: smtproutes

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

Martin Roest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is it possible to create user-based smtproutes like:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:foo
>
>I need to route every mailaddr in the domain to another mailserver
>except one.

No, but you can get the same effect using virtualdomains.

In control/virtualdomains, put:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:alias-someaddr

In control/smtproutes, put:

  somedomain.com:foo

In ~alias/.qmail-someaddr, put:

  |forward someaddr@[IP of somedomain.com]

-Dave



Urgent Help Needed! Qmail startup/shutdown script!

2000-05-01 Thread Murat Guven Mural


Hello,
i couldnt make this qmail startup/shutdown script work which is provided at
Life With Qmail Doc
i know that this is out of topic but i need help from any guru.
here is my details i provide you to find out my prob:

---
i use  FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE.
this is my startup dir:
-2.03# pwd ; ls -Fal
/usr/local/etc/rc.d
total 6
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 May  1 19:57 ./
drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel   512 Apr 19 17:41 ../
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2407 May  1 18:54 qmail*
---
(qmail* = http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/qmail-script-dt61.txt (unmodified))

i followed all the steps in LWQ doc.
when i do a: "/usr/local/sbin/qmail start" i get a loop like this:
---
Starting qmail: svscan.
d: not found
d: not found

---
 until i stop it with same command... "/usr/local/sbin/qmail stop"

Please tell me check where/fix what ? i did all the steps carefuly but seems
that i misconfigured some...
Thank you very much,

Best Regards,

Murat Guven Mural
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Book

2000-05-01 Thread Patrick Berry

on 4/29/00 12:53 AM, suresh had the thought:

> Does anybody know of a good book on qmail
> Suresh

Your best bet for the time being is to grab a postscript version of Life
with Qmail from : http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/qmail.html and print it out.

There is an O'Reilley book in the works, but it will be out When It's
Ready(tm).

Pat

-- 
Freestyle Interactive | http://www.freestyleinteractive.com | 415.778.0610




Re: Urgent Help Needed! Qmail startup/shutdown script!

2000-05-01 Thread Dave Sill

"Murat Guven Mural" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>when i do a: "/usr/local/sbin/qmail start" i get a loop like this:
>---
>Starting qmail: svscan.
>d: not found
>d: not found
>
>---
> until i stop it with same command... "/usr/local/sbin/qmail stop"

Try doing "sh -x /usr/local/sbin/qmail start". If that doesn't provide 
any insight, do:

  ls -lR /var/qmail/supervise

Also, double check /var/qmail/supervise/*/run.

-Dave



2nd HD in working system

2000-05-01 Thread Bill Parker

Hi All,

I have an interesting question here...I have a system which has
2HD's in it, a 1.8GB and a 4GB both in drive caddies for quick removal.

drive 1 /dev/hda1 has a fully bootable OpenLinux 2.3 system with
kernal mods to allow me to mess with software RAID stuff...

drive 2 is completely bare at the moment, except for partitioning
with fdisk.

Can OpenLinux 2.3 be installed to this 2nd HD w/o bothering the
first HD at all, using the normal LISA or LIZARD install process?

The reason I ask all of this stuff is as follows:

I have a single critical system in my office, the email server
running qmail+vpopmail, also does mrtg, and a few other do-dads...

I back this system up every night, incremental backup mon-sat
morning at 1:05am local time, full backup on sunday morning at 1:05
which gets rid of previous incrementals.

I store the tarballs which are made on my NT workstation's
drive D: (in D:\BACKUP)...(No tape drive available, and smbmount
works very well, btw).

Now for rapid restore of email system, if I have a fully
loaded OpenLinux 2.3 system (full install) already done and waiting,
can I simply unpack the tarballs on to the new drive and keep everything
running as is, or am I missing something here...I can provide the script
I use for backing stuff up, if needed.

What I want to know is if I am approaching this in the wrong way
or not...

-Bill




Re: E-Mail Address Harvesting

2000-05-01 Thread Len Budney

"Dennis Duval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> ...I believe they then compare the bounces ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in this case), against the database of addresses that were sent to...

The method here is perfectly correct. Indeed, using VERP there is no need
for bounce parsing, so the attack can be trivially adapted to attack ALL
mailers.

> ...resulting in a list of valid email addresses of my users.

What on earth do these lists cost these days?!? This method is so
astonishingly inefficient that I can't believe there's a positive
payoff. (Especially since spam listers can sell invalid addresses if
they want--who would ever know?)

I wonder if it isn't something else--like harvesting login names for a
stupid password crack? I'd be a _little_ less flabbergasted if that
were the case.

Len.

--
Frugal Tip #49:
Try owning lots of jewelry, negotiable securities, and tax-free municipal
bonds. Many rich people are known to have them.



What is the limit of size of an attachmen (in a default install)

2000-05-01 Thread Murat Guven Mural

how many mb's can be attached maximum ? i didnt edit anything about it. did
a default install..

mgm




E-Mail Address Harvesting

2000-05-01 Thread Dennis Duval

Sorry for the length of this post and its slightly off-topic nature.  But it
does concern all qmail users in that it demonstrates an easy and effective
attack against a qmail server.

I have been hit for the second time in several months by an email address
harvester.  The attacker sends multiple emails to my mail server.  Each
email has 25 recipients with every name you can imagine, mostly in
alphabetically order (see bounce below).  I believe they then compare the
bounces ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] in this case), against the database of
addresses that were sent to, resulting in a list of valid email addresses of
my users.

Because the incoming volume is low, maybe only 75 items per minute, it
raises no flags, and because there are only 25 recipients per message, that
doesn't raise a flag either.  However this results in about 15,000
deliveries for qmail-smtpd if this pace is maintained for about 40 minutes
as it was last night.  I chart qmail deliveries on MRTG and was tipped off
by seeing about 1900 deliveries each 5 minutes continuing for 40 minutes.
(normal for me is about 50 deliveries/5 mins).

Of course this type of volume does not cause a bit of trouble with my
reliable and highly capable qmail server, but horrible damage is being done
to my customers.  By the time I can analyze the problem and notify the
company where the attacker is set up, the damage is already done and my
users will suffer the consequences for years to come.

Below is sample letter, that actually gets through, as well as a clip from
qmail-qread that shows one of the items still queued up (stuck in the queue
because I had chmod 0 .qmail-bin after this happened before as I had started
getting spam mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] )  Also below is a snip of logs from
qmail-smtpd.  It appears that the sending IP (207.190.23.59) is bogus.  I
get no information on a reverse lookup.

I don't see any way to stop this type of attack other than to be able to
deny a connection from any IP address that does not have a valid MX record,
or at least a valid reverse lookup.  But I have not figured out how to do
that.

Thanks for any comments or suggestions on how to overcome this problem.

Dennis Duval


This is what a letter looks like if it actually gets delivered to one of my
users

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 6006 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 08:20:35 -
Received: from unknown (HELO viola) (207.190.23.59)
  by mail.seacove.net with SMTP; 1 May 2000 08:20:35 -
Message-ID: < 447410@ 423984>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 01:41:19 -0400 (EDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

*
Snip below is from qmail-qread showing a bounce message that actually hung
because I had changed the permissions on the file .qmail-bin.  This shows
plainly that the bounce message is returning to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If
it was an invalid address, these items would have double-bounced into a
specified maildir, and there are no doublebounces to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in that maildir.  This message shows how one message is set up to mail to
multiple recipients so that any address which is not legitimate is bounced
to a harverster.
*
1 May 2000 08:26:07 GMT  #212330  415  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  bouncing
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done  local   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

**
snip below from qmail-smtpd log.  This is the first entry that shows
up in the logs during the event
**
2000-05-01 03:19:53.350211 tcpserver: pid 5424 from 207.190.23.59
2000-05-01 03:19:53.948779 tcpserver: status: 3/40
2000-05-01 03:19:53.950027 tcpserver: pid 5425 from 207.190.23.59
2000-05-01 03:19:54.735180 tcpserver: ok 5425
mail.seacove.net:206.162.105.15:25 :207.190.23.59::4698
2000-05-01 03:19:59.242080 tcpserver: ok 5424
mail.seacove.net:206.162.105.15:25 :207.190.23.59::4695













Re: What is the limit of size of an attachmen (in a default install)

2000-05-01 Thread Timothy L. Mayo

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Murat Guven Mural wrote:

> how many mb's can be attached maximum ? i didnt edit anything about it. did
> a default install..

By default, there is no maximum (other than your physical disk space).
Use /var/qmail/control/databytes or the DATABYTES environment variable to
change this behaviour.  See the man page for qmail-smtpd.

-
Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems Administrator
localconnect(sm)
http://www.localconnect.net/

The National Business Network Inc.  http://www.nb.net/
One Monroeville Center, Suite 850
Monroeville, PA  15146
(412) 810- Phone
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Re: what file descriptors are used by QMAIL programs?

2000-05-01 Thread markd

I wrote:

> In general a program that provides an fd interface will discuss the
> interface fds in the man page. Other programs that are not intended
> to present a program interface (such as qmail-clean) will not have
> specific fd discussions.

As it happens, qmail-clean *does* discuss fds as well, even though
it's not really intended as a programmable interface. That'll teach me
to generalize without checking the specific example.


Regards.



what file descriptors are used by QMAIL programs?

2000-05-01 Thread Curtis Generous

I once saw a reference document that talked about which UN*X file
descriptors were used by various QMAIL programs.  Can anyone recall
seeing this info?  I have looked in all the normal places/archives with
no success.

Thanks

--curtis



Re: what file descriptors are used by QMAIL programs?

2000-05-01 Thread markd

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 02:08:14PM -0400, Curtis Generous wrote:
> I once saw a reference document that talked about which UN*X file
> descriptors were used by various QMAIL programs.  Can anyone recall
> seeing this info?  I have looked in all the normal places/archives with
> no success.

It depends on which program you are referring to. Some are very specific
about the fds they use and need, such as qmail-popup and qmail-queue.

In general a program that provides an fd interface will discuss the
interface fds in the man page. Other programs that are not intended
to present a program interface (such as qmail-clean) will not have
specific fd discussions.

What specifically did you want to discover?


Regards.



qmail-pop3d stralloc problem

2000-05-01 Thread Federico Barbazza

Hi all,
i have a big program with stralloc variable.
So, in qmail-pop3d i declared a variable:
stralloc *arrayname;
arrayname = (stralloc *) alloc(numm * sizeof(stralloc))
with numm as number of message.
When i try to do a stralloc_copys(&arrayname[i], "hello"), qmail-pop3d
exit with a "segmentation fault".
The strange thing is that i get this error only when numm is great than
25.I thought ...may be a memory problemor most probably i'm not a
really good c programmer.

Thanks for all your suggest

Federico.



Re: qmail-pop3d stralloc problem

2000-05-01 Thread markd

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:19:57PM +0200, Federico Barbazza wrote:
> Hi all,
> i have a big program with stralloc variable.
> So, in qmail-pop3d i declared a variable:
> stralloc *arrayname;
> arrayname = (stralloc *) alloc(numm * sizeof(stralloc))

Is that the exact code?

If so, should be it sizeof(stralloc) be the sizeof the structure you
are playing with?

> with numm as number of message.
> When i try to do a stralloc_copys(&arrayname[i], "hello"), qmail-pop3d
> exit with a "segmentation fault".
> The strange thing is that i get this error only when numm is great than
> 25.I thought ...may be a memory problemor most probably i'm not a
> really good c programmer.
> 
> Thanks for all your suggest
> 
> Federico.



Re: qmail-pop3d stralloc problem

2000-05-01 Thread markd

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 01:22:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:19:57PM +0200, Federico Barbazza wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > i have a big program with stralloc variable.
> > So, in qmail-pop3d i declared a variable:
> > stralloc *arrayname;
> > arrayname = (stralloc *) alloc(numm * sizeof(stralloc))
> 
> Is that the exact code?
> 
> If so, should be it sizeof(stralloc) be the sizeof the structure you
> are playing with?

Hoy! - where did that typo come from? I meant to say,
should the sizeof(stralloc) be sizeof(yourstructure). I hope that
was clear.



Re: qmail-pop3d stralloc problem

2000-05-01 Thread Federico Barbazza

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 01:22:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:19:57PM +0200, Federico Barbazza wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > i have a big program with stralloc variable.
> > > So, in qmail-pop3d i declared a variable:
> > > stralloc *arrayname;
> > > arrayname = (stralloc *) alloc(numm * sizeof(stralloc))
> >
> > Is that the exact code?
> >
> > If so, should be it sizeof(stralloc) be the sizeof the structure you
> > are playing with?
> 
> Hoy! - where did that typo come from? I meant to say,
> should the sizeof(stralloc) be sizeof(yourstructure). I hope that
> was clear.

stralloc is a structure with a int and a char*
now i tried to do this declaration:
struct stralloc *arrayname;
struct arrayname = (struct stralloc *) alloc(numm *sizeof(struct
stralloc))
but it doesn't work.
Thanks anyway.



Re: Newbie setting up aliases

2000-05-01 Thread bob

Dave Sill wrote:

> Bob Waskosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi. I'm having a very difficult time setting up my aliases. I just have
> >a linux box and want to use qmail/mutt for my email. My ISP POP3 email
> >address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I also have email on my virtualave
> >website server [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is just forwarded to
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
>
> You can use getmail or fetchmail to grab the messages from your ISP
> and deliver them locally.
>
> >How do I set up my aliases so this mail is sent to
> >my ~/Maildir?
>
> That's either a getmail or a fetchmail question. Install one of them
> and read the documentation.
>
> Here's a pointer to getmail. Fetchmail is widely available.
>
>   http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/getmail/
>
> -Dave

Hi
I have no problems fetching my mail with fetchmail but the only way I seem
to be able to get my mail is if I put a .qmail-default file in ~alias/. Any
other filename I use eg .qmail-netnet or .qmail-nobhead or .qmail-bobski
... don't work whether I put them in my home directory or in ~alias/. The
.qmail-default file seems to be the only one that allows me to get my mail
to ~/Maildir.
I also cannot send out any mail using qmailsmtpd.

Your Life with qmail article has been a great help but I must be
misunderstanding something. I also tried setting this up using an article
called "Mail queue with qmail" using maildir instead of mbox so my setup is
almost exactly whats in that article. If I don't use the
~alias/.qmail-default file everything gets delivered to ~alias/pppdir
instead of ~/Maildir even though my other files point to maildir.

Thanks
Bob




Re: E-Mail Address Harvesting

2000-05-01 Thread cmikk


On Mon, 1 May 2000 13:28:53 -0500 , "Dennis Duval" writes:
> It appears that the sending IP (207.190.23.59) is bogus.  I
> get no information on a reverse lookup.

... which really doesn't mean it's bogus, just not properly
configured.
 
> I don't see any way to stop this type of attack other than to be able to
> deny a connection from any IP address that does not have a valid MX record,
> or at least a valid reverse lookup.  But I have not figured out how to do
> that.

This won't stop "this kind of attack" because there
is nothing in the nature of this attack that requires
a non-reversed IP.  If you're worried about stopping
"this attacker," then use tcprules[1] to block connections
from the attacker's IP (or IP block).  I would only do
this after trying their abuse contacts.

Anyway, denying connections from non-reversed IPs
would require putting a shell-script wrapper around
the daemon which checks if TCPREMOTEHOST is set[1].
However, you may have reservations about doing this
on a high-volume server.

-- 
Chris Mikkelson  | "I have yet to see any problem, however complicated,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | which, when you looked at it the right way, did not 
 | become still more complicated."  -- Poul Anderson

[1] Assuming, of course, you use tcpserver.



qmail pop3 problem

2000-05-01 Thread BlackStains

I have qmail installed on my server. The smtpd is working (using telnet 
mail.domain.com 25). But when I telnet mail.domain.com 110, it doesn't work. The 
messages: "-ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir". What is the problem?

the command "maildirmake $HOME/Maildir" if I implement that like this:
"maildirmake /home/user01/Maildir" .. for user01...is this correct?

I put qmail-pop3d in inetd.conf like qmail-smtpd..
pop3 stream .../var/qmail...tcp-env.../qmail-pop3d  is this 
correct?

Daniel


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Re: qmail pop3 problem

2000-05-01 Thread Murat Guven Mural

every user *must* have a $HOME/Maildir directory 
(if you use ./Maildir/ delivery system under qmail.)

if user is john do a 

su john
/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake $HOME/Maildir
thats all needed

Best Regards,
mgm





How to setup ezmlm-cgi to publish list archieves @ web ?

2000-05-01 Thread Murat Guven Mural

Help! i read cgi man page 3 times. i cant setup ezmlm-cgi to 
publish archieve at web. anyone does this ? 
can you please send me example config file and tell the way?

Best Regards,
mgm




Re: E-Mail Address Harvesting

2000-05-01 Thread Dennis Duval

>
> This won't stop "this kind of attack" because there
> is nothing in the nature of this attack that requires
> a non-reversed IP.  If you're worried about stopping
> "this attacker," then use tcprules[1] to block connections
> from the attacker's IP (or IP block).  I would only do
> this after trying their abuse contacts.
>
Well, unfortunately, you can't anticipate in advance which IP address they
may use tonight.  You can only anticipate that it will probably have no
reverse and no MX record.  I plan to implement better notification, so that
when the next attack starts at 3 a.m. I will get a page, roll out of bed, go
thru logs to find the IP address being used, and put my blocks in place, to
try to minimize the damage to my customers.  Hmmm, maybe I could automate
this, if I could find a good way to identify the IP address making frequent
multiple connections.

Contacting the administrator at crosswinds.net (which I did) will hopefully
cause the account to be closed but likely they will just open annother one
at free-redhot-email.com and hit someone else tonight.
>
> Anyway, denying connections from non-reversed IPs
> would require putting a shell-script wrapper around
> the daemon which checks if TCPREMOTEHOST is set[1].
> However, you may have reservations about doing this
> on a high-volume server.
>
I thought I was already doing a check against non-reversed IP by running
tcpserver in the paranoid mode with the -p option, but I guess I am doing it
incorrectly or else not understanding it correctly.

Dennis





Understanding How To Use qmail In My Product

2000-05-01 Thread Mike Flynn

Hello,

I am the team leader of a commercial product that does a lot of
"outbound" mailing in any given week.  My product currently
uses the sendmail daemon to do this and I need a much more industrial
strength solution.  That's why I am looking at qmail.  We are a
subscription service and we mail users messages based on their
subscription.  Almost all of our users subscriber via our web
pages.

I currently get anywhere from 10,000 to 15,000 messages mailed
an hour but I have mailing campaigns that have more than 300K
addresses on them.  I am under the impression that I can get an
enormous boost using qmail. My product constructs each
subscriber's mailing from a database of documents based on
their subscription, forks a sendmail process and pipes the mailing
to the sendmail process. The sendmail daemon takes it from there.

I have been reading the information on the qmail web pages and
related pages and I see a lot of information but it seems to relate
to many aspects of mailing that I'm not interested in at the
moment.  I'll admit up front that I am not a UNIX guru so that may
be an extremely naive statement.  I just want to get the mail out much
faster.  My product runs on a UNIX variant that is supported by qmail.

So I'd like to ask a few questions and see if someone can point me
in the right direction.

Q01. Is it true that I can get an enormous increase in the number
 of messages I could mail per hour using qmail?

Q02. Is qmail free? (I will be using it in a "commercial" product).

Q03. Does my environment sound like a "simple" use of qmail or
is there hidden aspects I'm not aware of?

I do process  returned mail today and separate it into different
directories
which I eventually use to clean up the email addresses in our database.

Q04. Can I keep the portion of the product that processes returned mail
the same (i.e. using sendmail) and still use qmail to do the
mailing?

I hope I'm using this mailing list correctly.  If I'm not please let
me know and also, if possible, let me know where I can
go to get the information I need.

Thanks...

Mike




Re: Understanding How To Use qmail In My Product

2000-05-01 Thread markd

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 05:17:11PM -0400, Mike Flynn wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am the team leader of a commercial product that does a lot of
> "outbound" mailing in any given week.  My product currently
> uses the sendmail daemon to do this and I need a much more industrial
> strength solution.  That's why I am looking at qmail.  We are a
> subscription service and we mail users messages based on their
> subscription.  Almost all of our users subscriber via our web
> pages.
> 
> I currently get anywhere from 10,000 to 15,000 messages mailed
> an hour but I have mailing campaigns that have more than 300K
> addresses on them.  I am under the impression that I can get an
> enormous boost using qmail. My product constructs each
> subscriber's mailing from a database of documents based on
> their subscription, forks a sendmail process and pipes the mailing
> to the sendmail process. The sendmail daemon takes it from there.

Right, so each document sent to each subscriber is different?

While qmail is a *lot* quicker when it comes to sending the
same document to a lot of recipients, it doesn't gain as significantly
as the case of seperate documents for each recipient. Largely because
queue insertion is an expensive operation. Nonetheless, it is still
likely to be much faster than sendmail and much more amenable to
handling the bounces.

There are also techiques that can be used to minimize queue insertion
costs, but it requires an analysis of the variability of your
content to determine if there is any real advantage.

> So I'd like to ask a few questions and see if someone can point me
> in the right direction.
> 
> Q01. Is it true that I can get an enormous increase in the number
>  of messages I could mail per hour using qmail?

You will get a significant improvement, but it's very hard
to say exactly without specifics of your system, mail sizes,
etc.

You know that qmail can co-exist with sendmail, so you could
fairly readily do a run with qmail instead of sendmail to
compare the differences?

> Q02. Is qmail free? (I will be using it in a "commercial" product).

Yes. You wont have to pay anyone to use it.


> Q03. Does my environment sound like a "simple" use of qmail or
> is there hidden aspects I'm not aware of?

Sounds pretty simple to me, it largely depends on how you
do the injection and what you want done with the bounces and
messages that fail to delivery at all.

> I do process  returned mail today and separate it into different
> directories
> which I eventually use to clean up the email addresses in our database.

You could use the VERP feature of qmail to make this automatic.

> Q04. Can I keep the portion of the product that processes returned mail
> the same (i.e. using sendmail) and still use qmail to do the
> mailing?

Potentially, though that may take a little work for mail that sits
on the queue and expires.


Regards.



Re: send mail to remote hosts...

2000-05-01 Thread Mrs. Brisby

On Mon, 1 May 2000 08:31:30 -0400, Paul Schinder wrote:

>At 10:35 PM -0400 4/30/00, Mrs. Brisby wrote:
>>  2) pop3 command XTND XMIT.
>>  obvious PRO: no second connection necessary!
>>  obvious CON: needs a custom client. I am looking for 
>>one of these (preferably for windows and/or macos)
>>-- anyone want to let me know of one?
>
>You mean server or client?  Eudora implements XTND XMIT (definitely 
>on MacOS, probably on Windoze).  That's why Qualcomm's qpopper also 
>implements XTND XMIT.  Of course, using qpopper means using mbox 
>rather than Maildir.

It seems like I've heard that... oh well, there are XTND XMIT patches for qmail-pop3d 
someplace...
I don't use windows here (OS/2) so I don't get a chance to play with those new-fangled 
cooky emailers :)




Re: Understanding How To Use qmail In My Product

2000-05-01 Thread Mrs. Brisby

On Mon, 01 May 2000 17:17:11 -0400, Mike Flynn wrote:

[ blah blah blah ]

>Q01. Is it true that I can get an enormous increase in the number
> of messages I could mail per hour using qmail?

I don't know, can you? Can is a question of ability, and it has been my experience 
that automailers (which I unfortunatly have 
to drop you into) have various optimization issues of their own right.

If your program is broken, qmail MIGHT NOT be (much) faster...

For example:
Mailing list injection can truly be done one of three (major) ways:

1. a manual injector; /usr/lib/sendmail -t or 
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -- it's all the same
2. smtp connection with a LOT of RCPT TO:'s
3. autoinjecting (ezmlm or majordomo)

Now number '1' is certainly attractive; it allows you to easily switch mailers and 
depending on the rest of the project, maybe 
even platforms. '2' also would seem that way, however, mailers often make quite a 
difference between the two. 300K 
fork+exec's is a LOT of process wasting. add to that the fact that qmail then needs to 
chill those in it's queue for a while, and 
blast them out at a later time. SMTP relaying just passes the buck; but the mailer 
/MAY/ be more adaquitely developed for 
this task; it may not even fork at all! (yeah, think about that one :P)

The fact that we have ezmlm is what makes me love qmail. I let ezmlm manage the lists. 
That way, I don't have to make any 
special codes to allow the user to subscribe and unsubscribe. And it allows me to pass 
the buck so that as qmail and ezmlm 
mature, so does the versitility of my service. I just write a couple perl cgi's that 
subscribe in a SAFE manner, and be done 
with it.

So in general, is qmail going to be faster? hey, we're all fans here. And I doubt 
you'll find anyone on this list to tell you that 
qmail is "slower" than anything else out there. And there's numerous success stories 
floating all over the place to commend 
the awe that is qmail. So yes, it is /faster/.

But we also use qmail for another (IMHO, an even better) reason: simplicity. I feel 
confident that when I create an alias, or a 
list, it'll work as I expect it to. Because qmail is simple, I can actually understand 
how it works (just by looking at the 
source-- something you can't really get from sendmail). And that makes me feel that 
it's safe for what I want to do with it. 
Since I switched to qmail in 97, I haven't lost a single email. When I took over a Sr 
position at another company, we were 
losing 5-10 emails a month because of sendmails incompetence -- I switched them over 
to qmail, and my success rating 
continues to soar.


>Q02. Is qmail free? (I will be using it in a "commercial" product).

That depends on your definition of free. Is it free for me to use? Yes.
Is it free for me to change? Yes.
Is it free for me to redistribute? As near as I can tell -- yes, as long as I don't 
distribute a modified qmail.


>Q03. Does my environment sound like a "simple" use of qmail or
>is there hidden aspects I'm not aware of?
>
>I do process  returned mail today and separate it into different
>directories
>which I eventually use to clean up the email addresses in our database.
>

Welp. Your "environment" sounds a lot simpler than you make it out to be.
I always thought a good rule of thumb is that if you sell houses, what business do you 
have making cars?
And if you sell newsletters, why would you build a mailer?

There's already fantastic (free) software that does exactly what you're trying to make 
(so it sounds).

ezmlm (for example), automatically deals with bounces in a rather intellegent way. You 
might be able to speed your project 
around by continuing your searches.


>Q04. Can I keep the portion of the product that processes returned mail
>the same (i.e. using sendmail) and still use qmail to do the
>mailing?

Again, that depends. See my answer to Q1. Qmail provides a "sendmail emulation" 
system. Take it, and the fastforward 
package, and qmail can work as almost a drop-in replacement for sendmail. And with 
some tweaks? A lot better than 
sendmail.

However, if you're dead-set on splitting up the job of delivery, you CAN do it with 
qmail. Qmail doesn't have anything about 
it that *REQUIRES* that SMTP be running (or pop, or qmqp/qmtp for that matter). By 
installing qmail, you can use it's fast 
queuing and remote delivery system along side sendmail's broken local delivery.

But I wouldn't recommend it. Sendmail has many issues that should one day be dealt 
with (read: dropped off a cliff), and I 
hope everyone will realize that. But I also hope that people will realize that you can 
have your cake and eat it too; qmail does 
mail. it isn't sendmail (that's true), but sendmail has (unfortunatly) defined the way 
a lot of programs think of mail.

There are SO MANY shell/perl scripts that have lines like:

open(P, "|/usr/lib/sendmail -t") or die ("$!");
 

Re: virtual domain hosting

2000-05-01 Thread Vishwanath Paranjape

it contains

./Maildir/

At 06:06 PM 04/29/2000 -0400, Bob Rogers wrote:
>   From: Vishwanath Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   hi all
>   i am trying to setup virtual domains using qmail
>   i installed qmail on redhat 6.0 and its working ok
>   but i tried to setup virtual domains 
>   i read the complete documentation along with the distribution
>   my virtualdomains files is as follows
>
>   domain1.com:jim
>
>   but the mail addressed to
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   bounces back
>   saying "no such mailbox"
>
>   but the mail addressed to 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   gets delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>   please help
>   vish
>
>So what does ~jim/.qmail-carol contain?
>
>   -- Bob Rogers
>




qmail-inject

2000-05-01 Thread Mike Perks

Hello,

How do I tell qmail-inject to send email thru a particular virtual domain
name?

Currently it just gives the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is my
defauldomain

The reason why I am asking is I have a cgi script that sends mail thru an
interface and currently it just pushes everything thru my defaultdomain and
I get the bounced messages in my postmaster box when the mail isnt
deliverable... Would rather the virt domain get its own return addressed
mail

Can I also put a particular user's name in the this comand line so if a
message doesbounce then they'll get the MAILER-Daemon message

Thanks in advance,

Mike Perks




Further to qmail-inject

2000-05-01 Thread Mike Perks

Here is a header from a mail message sent thru my cgi interface

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 16443 invoked by uid 99); 2 May 2000 04:32:58 -
Date: 2 May 2000 04:32:58 -
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
From: Mail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Test

How can I make the Return-Path an different domain name from the command
line to invoke qmail-inject ??? I dont want to see vanislenet.net ???

Hope you can help??

Mike Perks




dot-qmail: write to mbox named after current year & month

2000-05-01 Thread lewst

What is the easiest way to have qmail deliver an incoming message to
an mbox named after the current year and month without having to
manually adjust the .qmail each month?  For example, "mbox.2000-05".

I've tried the following:

  % cat .qmail
  ./mbox.`date +%Y-%m`

This results in a mailbox file literally named "mbox.`date +%Y-%m`",
which is obviously not what I want.


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Re: Further to qmail-inject

2000-05-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

Mike Perks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 May 2000 at 21:39:10 -0700

 > How can I make the Return-Path an different domain name from the command
 > line to invoke qmail-inject ??? I dont want to see vanislenet.net ???

Everything you need is described in man qmail-inject.  I think you
need to set QMAILSHOST to set the envelope sender, which is what then
becomes that "from " header in the received message.
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Re: Further to qmail-inject

2000-05-01 Thread Mike Perks

Thanks David,

You gave me an idea.. Why not just find the spot in the code to add the
Return-Path in the header.

The original code did not have the return-path parts...

 Snip of CGI Code =

sub seml1
{
open (MAIL, "|$mailprog") || die "Can't open $mailprog!\n";
print MAIL "Return-Path: joshua\@bitachon.com\n";
print MAIL "To: $mailadr\n";
print MAIL "From: $mailreply\n";
print MAIL "Subject: $mailsubj\n\n";
print MAIL " $mailinfo\n";
close (MAIL);
}
sub seml2
{
open (MAIL, "|$mailprog $mailadr") || die "Can't open $mailprog!\n";
print MAIL "Return-Path: joshua\@bitachon.com\n";
print MAIL "From: $mailreply\n";
print MAIL "Subject: $mailsubj\n\n";
print MAIL " $mailinfo\n";
close (MAIL);
}

=== Un-snip of CGI Code 

This solved the return-path problem and did not show my defaultdomain
anymore as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sorry for the postings but sometimes a thrid party can make the brain
think...

Mike Perks

- Original Message -
From: "David Dyer-Bennet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Qmail Mail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: Further to qmail-inject


> Mike Perks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 May 2000 at
21:39:10 -0700
>
>  > How can I make the Return-Path an different domain name from the
command
>  > line to invoke qmail-inject ??? I dont want to see vanislenet.net ???
>
> Everything you need is described in man qmail-inject.  I think you
> need to set QMAILSHOST to set the envelope sender, which is what then
> becomes that "from " header in the received message.
> --
> Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ Minicon:
http://www.mnstf.org/minicon
> Bookworms: http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b
> David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>




Out of memory error??

2000-05-01 Thread TAG

Hi ALL,

I have a curious problem - I keep getting the following error in logs:

May  2 05:17:49 xsimail qmail: 957251869.565023 alert: out of memory,
sleeping...


I have 512MB of memory and 1GB SWAP on a solaris 7 system running on a
quad 333MZ SPARC system??

How can it be out of memory!!!

Please can anyone explain???

ALSO - running qmail 1.03 and the mysql patch from Iain Patterson??

Thanks

Tonino



ofmipd-like sending from command line?

2000-05-01 Thread Bryan Curnutt

Does anybody have a command-line program already built that can send mail
using cdb rewriting like mess822's ofmipd does?  new-inject has everything
for rewriting that ofmipd has, except the one feature that I want...

Purpose: I need to modify qmail-vacation to make the autoresponses appear
to come from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the current
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

-- 
Bryan Curnutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: ofmipd-like sending from command line?

2000-05-01 Thread Peter Samuel

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Bryan Curnutt wrote:

> Does anybody have a command-line program already built that can send mail
> using cdb rewriting like mess822's ofmipd does?  new-inject has everything
> for rewriting that ofmipd has, except the one feature that I want...
> 
> Purpose: I need to modify qmail-vacation to make the autoresponses appear
> to come from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead of the current
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

Given that qmail-vacation just sends replies back through
qmail-inject, why not set environment variables in side your .qmail
file

| QMAILHOST=virtudomain.dev.salu.com QMAILUSER=newuser qmail-vaction -j username

I haven't tested that, you might need to export the variables. If so
then just use a shell script wrapper to set  the variables and call
qmail-vacation appropriately.

PS I promised a new version of qmail-vacation, it is coming but I've
been swamped with work lately (sad I know :). Soon, honest.

Regards
Peter
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This doesn't make sense -- qmail can't connect.

2000-05-01 Thread Adam McKenna

qmail for some reason is refusing to connect to another host which is located
on the same hub:

2000-05-02 02:28:33.493593500 starting delivery 390: msg 99178 to remote 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2000-05-02 02:28:33.493603500 status: local 0/10 remote 7/20
2000-05-02 02:28:33.517261500 delivery 390: deferral: 
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/

But, as you can see:

adam@spotted:~$ telnet pan-fried.flounder.net 25
Trying 207.99.110.102...
Connected to pan-fried.flounder.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 athlon.flounder.net ESMTP

SMTP is up and running fine on pan-fried and I can connect to it from this
box.  And there is no sort of timeout or anything -- it connects immediately.

So, why can't qmail connect?  tcpserver is totally idle on the other box:

2000-05-02 02:30:43.196639500 tcpserver: status: 0/40

There are no dns problems:

adam@spotted:~$ dig pan-fried.flounder.net a  

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> pan-fried.flounder.net a 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  pan-fried.flounder.net, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
pan-fried.flounder.net.  0S IN A  207.99.110.102

adam@spotted:~$ dig pan-fried.flounder.net mx

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> pan-fried.flounder.net mx 
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  pan-fried.flounder.net, type = MX, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
pan-fried.flounder.net.  0S IN MX  0 a.mx.pan-fried.flounder.net.
a.mx.pan-fried.flounder.net.  0S IN A  207.99.110.102

--Adam



Re: This doesn't make sense -- qmail can't connect.

2000-05-01 Thread Adam McKenna

heh..  never mind.  I should stop staying up this late.

(bad entry in smtproutes)

--Adam