Re: ipme.c patch

2001-01-29 Thread Scott Gifford

"James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There was recently some talk on this list about about patching ipme.c
 to add 0.0.0.0 to qmail's list of known local addresses.. and the
 original poster supplied a patch. However, the patch was only _part_
 of a bigger patch.. leaving those of us that aren't familiar with
 qmail's code in the dark.
 
 So.. my question is, could someone please post a complete patch to
 work around this issue? Or at least a URL to their patch? Thanks.

Here's a patch that implements my recommendation.  Note that for
reasons discussed in my earlier messages, this isn't the patch that we
actually use in production machines, so I can't guarantee it won't
break anything, but it looks like an obvious fix.  Still, I would test
it on a development machine first.

You can verify that this patch has worked by running "ipmeprint" after
applying it.  0.0.0.0 should be printed out first, followed by all of
your IP addresses, each on their own line.

If anybody can report success or failure with this patch, I'd
appreciate it.

I'll put it up on my Web page and post the URL when I can.

--ScottG.


--- qmail-1.03/ipme.c	Mon Jun 15 06:53:16 1998
+++ qmail-1.03-sg/ipme.c	Mon Jan 29 02:27:38 2001
@@ -46,6 +46,11 @@
   ipme.len = 0;
   ix.pref = 0;
  
+  /* 0.0.0.0 is a special address which always refers to 
+   * "this host, this network", according to RFC 1122, Sec. 3.2.1.3a.
+  */
+  byte_copy(ix.ip,4,"\0\0\0\0");
+  if (!ipalloc_append(ipme,ix)) { return 0; }
   if ((s = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_STREAM,0)) == -1) return -1;
  
   len = 256;



OT: Funny mailing list postings

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

This is just for a bit of fun...if you're not interested in this
posting (in all your lack of humour), please add it to your killfile
or equivalent.

Does anyone here have any funny recollections of people sending
postings that were meant to go to someone totally unrelated to the
mailing list, to a mailing list? (ie list-serv)? Just curious, thought
it might give a few people a bit of a laugh :)

Later...
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Re: Re: Re: rewriting outgoing remote mail

2001-01-29 Thread Michel Boucey


Sure I am.

Thanks ...

Cordialement,

Michel Boucey   Administrateur Systme
 Socit Norm@net +33 2 31 27 13 45 


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Alex Kramarov wrote:

 if anyone is still interested in that rewritten and scaled down qmail-scanner, I 
have got it up and running, and can send it to anyone who is is interested.
 
 ---Original Message---
 
 From: Alex Kramarov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 06:35:04 PM
 To: Qmail list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re: rewriting outgoing remote mail
 
 Yes, it's as simple as that (only you have to put it in two places - the read loop 
of the message and the envelope header). Right now I am in process of rewriting the 
qmail-scanner script to do only, and only that, without ANYTHING related to virus 
scanning.
 
 ---Original Message---
 
 From: Michel Boucey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 06:26:19 PM
 To: Alex Kramarov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: rewriting outgoing remote mail
 
 and does it work ?
 
 is it just something like s/\@foo.org/\@foo.fr/ at the right place to do
 or is it very much more complicated ?




Re: ipme.c patch

2001-01-29 Thread Scott Gifford

Adi's patch is actually not correct.  It adds "0.0.0.0" *instead of*
your other interfaces, instead of *in addition to* your other
interfaces.

ipmeprint shows this.  Here's qmail's normal ipme:

[sgifford@sghome qmail-1.03]$ ./ipmeprint 
127.0.0.1
10.0.0.8

here it is with Adi's patch:

[sgifford@sghome qmail-1.03-adi]$ ./ipmeprint 
0.0.0.0
0.0.0.0

and here it is with the patch I just posted:

[sgifford@sghome qmail-1.03-sg]$ ./ipmeprint 
0.0.0.0
127.0.0.1
10.0.0.8

Thanks for taking a stab at it, though, Adi!  :)

-ScottG.

adi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 06:39:36AM +, James wrote:

  So.. my question is, could someone please post a complete patch to
  work around this issue? Or at least a URL to their patch?
 
 Try this patch. Use with your own risk.
 And don't forget to say thank to Scott Gifford @ tir.com.
 
 Regards,
 
 P.Y. Adi Prasaja
 
 --- ipme.cMon Jun 15 17:53:16 1998
 +++ /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03/ipme.c  Mon Jan 29 13:48:00 2001
 @@ -74,6 +74,7 @@
byte_copy(ix.ip,4,sin-sin_addr);
if (ioctl(s,SIOCGIFFLAGS,x) == 0)
  if (ifr-ifr_flags  IFF_UP)
 +  ip_scan("0.0.0.0", ix.ip);
if (!ipalloc_append(ipme,ix)) { close(s); return 0; }
  }
  #else
 @@ -84,6 +85,7 @@
 if (ifr-ifr_addr.sa_family == AF_INET) {
   sin = (struct sockaddr_in *) ifr-ifr_addr;
   byte_copy(ix.ip,4,sin-sin_addr);
 +ip_scan("0.0.0.0", ix.ip);
   if (!ipalloc_append(ipme,ix)) { close(s); return 0; }
 }
  #endif



Re: ipme.c patch

2001-01-29 Thread adi

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:54:10AM -0500, Scott Gifford wrote:
 ipmeprint shows this.  Here's qmail's normal ipme:
 
 [sgifford@sghome qmail-1.03]$ ./ipmeprint 
 127.0.0.1
 10.0.0.8
 
 here it is with Adi's patch:
 
 [sgifford@sghome qmail-1.03-adi]$ ./ipmeprint 
 0.0.0.0
 0.0.0.0

Arggh.. thanks again!

Our mailserver currently being attack by navidad.exe ;-(
I didn't received your patch, yet. Anyway, I think this patch would
be more correct than previous one :-)

% ./ipmeprint
127.0.0.1
10.0.7.21
10.0.7.20
10.0.100.1
10.0.100.2
10.0.100.3
10.0.100.4
10.0.100.5
0.0.0.0

Regards,

P.Y. Adi Prasaja


--- ipme.c  Mon Jun 15 17:53:16 1998
+++ /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03/ipme.cMon Jan 29 16:09:15 2001
@@ -89,6 +89,8 @@
 #endif
 x += len;
   }
+  ip_scan("0.0.0.0", ix.ip);
+  if (!ipalloc_append(ipme,ix)) { close(s); return 0; }
   close(s);
   ipmeok = 1;
   return 1;



Re: ipme.c patch

2001-01-29 Thread Scott Gifford

adi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ ... ]

 Arggh.. thanks again!
 
 Our mailserver currently being attack by navidad.exe ;-(
 I didn't received your patch, yet. Anyway, I think this patch would
 be more correct than previous one :-)

Yep, that patch looks fine; mine's pretty much the same, but puts the
IP address first instead of last, and uses byte_copy instead of
ip_scan to fill in the ix structure.

-ScottG.

 
 % ./ipmeprint
 127.0.0.1
 10.0.7.21
 10.0.7.20
 10.0.100.1
 10.0.100.2
 10.0.100.3
 10.0.100.4
 10.0.100.5
 0.0.0.0
 
 Regards,
 
 P.Y. Adi Prasaja
 
 --- ipme.cMon Jun 15 17:53:16 1998
 +++ /usr/local/src/qmail-1.03/ipme.c  Mon Jan 29 16:09:15 2001
 @@ -89,6 +89,8 @@
  #endif
  x += len;
}
 +  ip_scan("0.0.0.0", ix.ip);
 +  if (!ipalloc_append(ipme,ix)) { close(s); return 0; }
close(s);
ipmeok = 1;
return 1;



Error: #4.4.2 - connected but connection died

2001-01-29 Thread Joel Gautschi

hi,
I get this error when user try to send a message to freesurf.ch. Is this my
problem, or is it the problem of freesurf.ch?

cya
Joel


 from /var/log/syslog (XX, XX2, XX3 aren't the real user
names of course)
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.330603 starting delivery 1: msg
1507332 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.331727 status: local 0/10 remote
1/20
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.408456 starting delivery 2: msg
1507333 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.408918 status: local 0/10 remote
2/20
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.479722 starting delivery 3: msg
1507331 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 29 11:30:20 joshua qmail: 980764220.480098 status: local 0/10 remote
3/20
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.483799 delivery 1: deferral:
Connected_to_194.230.0.8_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.484239 status: local 0/10 remote
2/20
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.832453 delivery 2: deferral:
Connected_to_194.230.0.8_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.832823 status: local 0/10 remote
1/20
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.856358 delivery 3: deferral:
Connected_to_194.230.0.8_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/
Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.856679 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20





Supervise

2001-01-29 Thread thomas

Hi together

I've got a PIII 1400 Mhz Server with 384 Mb SDRAM, the qmail is installed with 
supervise-mode. Now the problem is, the supervise need the whole time 4% of the 
processor-capacity. Can you explain me, is that normal??

THX for your inspirations.

Greets
Thür


qmail Digest 29 Jan 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1259

2001-01-29 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 29 Jan 2001 11:00:01 - Issue 1259

Topics (messages 56187 through 56229):

[standards track] Sieve: A Mail Filtering Language
56187 by: Magnus Bodin

Problem with local delivery
56188 by: Tomas TPS Ulej
56190 by: pape.innominate.com

webmail solution
56189 by: M. Yu
56204 by: Sam Trenholme

qmail problem
56191 by: NDSoftware

ANNOUNCE: Checkpassword replacement
56192 by: Lukasz Komsta

Re: Qwest.net  Qmail - online presentation..
56193 by: Henning Brauer
56195 by: Peter van Dijk
56196 by: Peter van Dijk
56201 by: Charles Cazabon
56209 by: Henning Brauer
56210 by: Russell Nelson

Re: Why so few qmail-remote processes
56194 by: Peter van Dijk

Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST
56197 by: courtney.whtz.com
56198 by: Fabrice Scemama
56199 by: Aaron Carr

Re: qmail patch
56200 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: Create a bounce message?
56202 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: is there a filter to scan message header and reject accordingly
56203 by: Wolfgang Zeikat

softlimit question
56205 by: Hubbard, David
56206 by: Mark Delany

Re: Specific IP
56207 by: Keary Suska

Moveing mail databases.
56208 by: Alan Lee

Secure IMAP server
56211 by: Rahsheen Porter
56216 by: Andy Bradford
56221 by: Sam Trenholme

Re: The joy of Qmail
56212 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou
56213 by: Patrick Bihan-Faou

Unable_to_open_./Maildir:_is_a_directory ERROR?
56214 by: Sean Coyle
56215 by: tc lewis
56220 by: Sean Coyle

ipme.c patch
56217 by: James
56219 by: adi
56222 by: Scott Gifford
56225 by: Scott Gifford
56226 by: adi
56227 by: Scott Gifford

temporary lock failure ?
56218 by: dennis

Re: Funny mailing list postings
56223 by: Brett Randall

Re: rewriting outgoing remote mail
56224 by: Michel Boucey

Error: #4.4.2 - connected but connection died
56228 by: Joel Gautschi

Supervise
56229 by: thomas.thuer.com

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has seen that the works RFC3028, Sieve: A Mail Filtering Language
has hit the RFC stores.

http://rfc3028.x42.com/

Now we really want a flexible open source implementation of this language
to be nicely plugged into qmail, qmail-ldap etc. 

 
/magnus - also waiting for RFC# 2822, 2821 (to hit RFC stores)
  to replace the old 822 and 821. 

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root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # echo to: root | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -n 
 1

root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # t 0 110
Trying 0.0.0.0...
Connected to 0.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
user root
+OK 
pass x
+OK 
stat
+OK 1 169
retr 1
+OK 
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jan 2001 03:26:59 -
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

.
+OK

root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # cat ~alias/.qmail-root
/root/Maildir/

root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # echo to: root | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject

From syslog:

Jan 28 03:29:28 moj qmail: 980652568.556349 new msg 9729
Jan 28 03:29:28 moj qmail: 980652568.564272 info msg 9729: bytes 203 from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 4945 uid 0
Jan 28 03:29:28 moj qmail: 980652568.638661 starting delivery 10: msg 9729 to local 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 28 03:29:28 moj qmail: 980652568.643403 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
Jan 28 03:29:32 moj qmail: 980652572.706560 delivery 10: deferral: 
Temporary_error_on_maildir_delivery._(#4.3.0)/
Jan 28 03:29:32 moj qmail: 980652572.708355 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

Any ideas?

--
TPS






On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 12:32:31PM +0100, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote:
 root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # echo to: root | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject 
-n  1
 
 root@[SCREEN3.moj /root/Maildir/new] # cat ~alias/.qmail-root
 /root/Maildir/

qmail never delivers as or to root. You should never read mail as root.
Forward mails to root to another account, just touch an empty
~alias/.qmail-root, alias will catch the mails, or put the name of another
account in there.

# man dot-qmail

Gerrit.

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Hello,

Anyone know of a webmail solution for the following setup:

- qmail (smtp and pop3)
- courier-imap
- vmailmgr or vpopmail

I need something that doesn't require a 

Re: DotFiles

2001-01-29 Thread Webmaster


 I am not sure what you are asking.

 ~username/.qmail is the file that determines how to process mail sent to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where yourmachine.example.org is your
 machine, e.g. globalred.com).  ~username/.qmail-foo is the file the
 determines how to process mail sent to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

~username/.qmail is processed when I send a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

but if I send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but
~username/.qmail-test isn't processed.

Content of rcpthosts - A line with yourmachine.example.org
Content of virtualdomains - A line with
yourmachine.example.org:yourmachine.example.org

What do you think???


- Original Message -
From: "Sam Trenholme" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Webmaster" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: DotFiles



 I am not sure what you are asking.

 ~username/.qmail is the file that determines how to process mail sent to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where yourmachine.example.org is your
 machine, e.g. globalred.com).  ~username/.qmail-foo is the file the
 determines how to process mail sent to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now, if /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains has a line like this:

 heaven.af.mil:username

 The mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be processed in qmail as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the ~username/.qmail-foo file).
 And mail sent to any undefined address @heaven.af.mil will be processed as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the ~username/.qmail-default
 file).

 Read the relevent Qmail docs, FAQs, and man pages for more information.

 - Sam

  Hi, I install qmail Memphis version with dt-run services with
virtualdomains
  using assign file. And I have a little problem:
 
  The file .qmail  is of the user is processed but the files
  .qmail-jkljklsdfsdjkl no.
 
  Any person can say me why???
 
  Thanks.






which operation system us the best use of qmail

2001-01-29 Thread hari_bhr

hi all

could some one help me which operation system is the best
usage of qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin+mysql+sqwebmail

linux
freebsd
hp
sun
AIX
Solaris

thanks




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Re: which operation system us the best use of qmail

2001-01-29 Thread Robin S. Socha

* hari_bhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010129 07:51]:
 
 could some one help me which operation system is the best
 usage of qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin+mysql+sqwebmail

Stupid, stupid question. And it's operating system, just for the record.

 linux freebsd hp sun AIX Solaris

You forget one that fits nicely into the "more secure than thou"
ideology: OpenBSD. Works like a charm, too.



Re: which operation system us the best use of qmail

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 could some one help me which operation system is the best
 usage of qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin+mysql+sqwebmail

I highly suggest that Windows might be the best for you.

Have fun.
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rblsmtpd patch

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Sander

Hi!

I have made a patch to rblsmtpd that allows to call an arbitrary
program whenever a connecting mailserver is in one of the lists.

I use it to send the postmasters of this host and the respective
domains a short mail saying that they have an open relay and they
should fix it.

This is maybe not what everybody wants, because it generates traffic.
But I have my users in the back complaining about not getting mails
from the outside. So I started to send out mails manually to the
respective postmasters to close their open relays.
This was getting too much work, therefore this patch:

ftp://epigenomics.org/pub/oss/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.patch

When rblsmtpd is called with the new option "-x /path/to/program", it
calls the program every time a connecting mailserver is blocked and
quits. It calls the given program, which gets all the environment
variables from tcpserver and a new one set by rblsmtpd: $RBLMESSAGE,
which is the message the connecting mailserver was rejected with.

The program now can make decisions based on $TCPREMOTEHOST et. al.
to do anything like sending mail to postmaster@$TCPREMOTEHOST.

I do know that the error should show up in the logs of the remote
host, but when they are misconfigured, it is likely the postmaster
does not look into the logs. I do hope she/he is looking into the
mailbox...

In the ftp-directory is a sample bash script called rblscript that
sends a short mail to the postmaster of the remote host.

Please feel free to send any additions/corrections to me.

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander
Computer Scientist   Epigenomics AG
Bioinformatics RDwww.epigenomics.com Kastanienallee 24
+493024345330  10435 Berlin



RE: Secure IMAP server

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Owen

 The writers of Courier are a pedantic bunch.  They reject 
 mail with 8-bit info in the headers and will not send mail
 to places with "improperly configured MX records".

Next thing you know, they'll be refusing to speak with SMTP clients
that send bare linefeeds.

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  SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!



doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread J.J.Gallardo

This is a doubt about the best way to compile again qmail:

I have my system running qmail perfectly, but some days ago i discovered
that qmail has not the patch that "Scott Moorhouse" re-wrote to solve
the problem with the "Netscape's download indicator doesn't progress".
The file involved is "qmail-pop3d.c". I have tried to compile the file
(alone) with the patch apliayed, but may be the file has some
dependencies with another files ( I cannot run  "cc or gcc" over the
file) and so, we have to re-compile all the qmail distribution.

Can I compile "qmail" in another machine and later move and/or copy only
/var/qmail/bin/*?
That's my best option cause only stop the server a minute at the time of
day i wish, but i would like to know others opinions about this.

Thanks.




Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Gonçalo Gomes

Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap daemon which works
with maildir?

best regards
Gonalo Gomes




RE: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Owen

 Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
 problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap 
 daemon which works with maildir?

Courier supports Maildir (and maildir only).
http://www.courier-mta.org and look for the "standalone IMAP package." 

There are patches to make UW-Imap use Maildir (at www.qmail.org?)
but UW-Imap expressly does not support Maildir themselves.

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Re: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
 problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap daemon
 which works with maildir?

Read the FAQ and the docs that come with qmail. There's a start for you.
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Re: rblsmtpd

2001-01-29 Thread Mate Wierdl

 I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp
 program and has a -a query.  The only thing about this is why it
 says "anti-listed" instead of listed.


Perhaps you want to read the docs for rblsmtpd for the meaning of the
-a flag.

Unpatched rblsmtpd blocks using TXT records.

Mate



RE: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Owen

Brett Randall wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
  problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap daemon
  which works with maildir?
 
 Read the FAQ and the docs that come with qmail. There's a 
 start for you.

Better yet, don't listen to Brett, who doesn't appear to know what
the hell he's talking about, and who appears to post only so he can be
abusive.


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Re: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Jose AP Celestino

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:41:41PM -, Gon?alo Gomes wrote:
 Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
 problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap daemon which works
 with maildir?
 
 best regards
 Gonalo Gomes
 

Courier-IMAP, and it also supports ldap just in case.

http://www.courier-mta.org

Version 1.3.2 out 4 days ago

Regards.

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Re: doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread Jose AP Celestino

Is qmail-pop3d.c the only file affected by the patch?

If so why don't you cd the qmail source tree, apply the patch and then:

make

and copy the qmail-pop3d to /var/qmail/bin ?

Best regards.

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:33:28PM +0100, J.J.Gallardo wrote:
 This is a doubt about the best way to compile again qmail:
 
 I have my system running qmail perfectly, but some days ago i discovered
 that qmail has not the patch that "Scott Moorhouse" re-wrote to solve
 the problem with the "Netscape's download indicator doesn't progress".
 The file involved is "qmail-pop3d.c". I have tried to compile the file
 (alone) with the patch apliayed, but may be the file has some
 dependencies with another files ( I cannot run  "cc or gcc" over the
 file) and so, we have to re-compile all the qmail distribution.
 

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Jose AP Celestino  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  || SAPO / PT Multimedia
Administrao de Sistemas / Operaes || http://www.sapo.pt
--
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on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)
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Re: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Richard Zimmerman

imap-4.5-3mdir4.i386.rpm

The above is the UW-IMAP server w/ the Maildir patches alreayd applied. I'm
trying to locate the site I downloaded it from but I'll email it to you if
you like.

http://www.davideous.com/imap-maildir/

Found it

It works a lot better for me then the Courier-Imap program did..

   Goose


- Original Message -
From: "Greg Owen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Qmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: Hi


  Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres a
  problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap
  daemon which works with maildir?

 Courier supports Maildir (and maildir only).
 http://www.courier-mta.org and look for the "standalone IMAP package."

 There are patches to make UW-Imap use Maildir (at www.qmail.org?)
 but UW-Imap expressly does not support Maildir themselves.

 --
 gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!







appliing Bruce Guenter's patch

2001-01-29 Thread Michel Boucey


certainly a newbie question : how to apply the Bruce Guenter's patch
from his email to qmail sources ...

Thanks.

Cordialement,

Michel Boucey   Administrateur Systme
 Socit Norm@net +33 2 31 27 13 45 





Re: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Greg Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010129 11:09]:
 Brett Randall wrote:
  On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now theres
   a problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best imap daemon
   which works with maildir?
  
  Read the FAQ and the docs that come with qmail. There's a start for
  you.
 
 Better yet, don't listen to Brett, who doesn't appear to know what the
 hell he's talking about, and who appears to post only so he can be
 abusive.

Right. Thankss for your input, Greg. You're a really good person. Some
would say "treehugger". Next time, don't forget the pointer to
http://qmail.org/top.html where all the relevant information can be
found. 

Ah, yes... UW-IMAP sucks big time. Courier IMAP r00l3z supreme. Sam and
hist list are excellent sources of information. Just for the record.



Re: Re: doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Kramarov








  
  


  
from my experience, the easiest way to effectively kill you 
server (for some time, until you solve it) is to do just what is 
proposed by Jose below, and to forget to set the right permissions 
and ownership for the copied file.

---Original 
Message---


From: Jose AP Celestino 
japc@gandalf
Date: Monday, January 
29, 2001 06:45:34 PM
To: J.J.Gallardo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: doubts 
about re-compile
Is qmail-pop3d.c the only file affected by the 
patch?If so why don't you cd the qmail source tree, apply 
the patch and then:makeand copy the qmail-pop3d to 
/var/qmail/bin ?Best regards.On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 
04:33:28PM +0100, J.J.Gallardo wrote: This is a doubt about 
the best way to compile again qmail:  I have my 
system running qmail perfectly, but some days ago i 
discovered that qmail has not the patch that "Scott 
Moorhouse" re-wrote to solve the problem with the 
"Netscape's download indicator doesn't progress". The file 
involved is "qmail-pop3d.c". I have tried to compile the 
file (alone) with the patch apliayed, but may be the file 
has some dependencies with another files ( I cannot run "cc 
or gcc" over the file) and so, we have to re-compile all the 
qmail distribution. -- Jose AP Celestino 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || SAPO / PT MultimediaAdministração de 
Sistemas / Operações || 
http://www.sapo.pt--Only 
wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff 
on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)-- Linus 
Torvalds, about his failing hard drive on 
linux.cs.helsinki.fi

  

  
  








	
	
	
	
	
	
	





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Re: Re: doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread Jose AP Celestino

Yeah, right Alex.

make
= stop qmail =
cp qmail-pop3d /var/qmail/bin
chown root:qmail /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
= start qmail =

FIN.

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 06:54:58PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
 from my experience, the easiest way to effectively kill you server (for some time, 
until you solve the problem) is to do just what is proposed by Jose below, and to 
forget to set the right permissions and ownership for the copied file.
 

-- 
Jose AP Celestino  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  || SAPO / PT Multimedia
Administrao de Sistemas / Operaes || http://www.sapo.pt
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A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems.
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Re: which operation system us the best use of qmail

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:05:58AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  could some one help me which operation system is the best
  usage of qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin+mysql+sqwebmail
 
 I highly suggest that Windows might be the best for you.

Or BeOS.

End of thread.

Greetz, Peter.



Re: Secure IMAP server

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 10:26:33AM -0500, Greg Owen wrote:
  The writers of Courier are a pedantic bunch.  They reject 
  mail with 8-bit info in the headers and will not send mail
  to places with "improperly configured MX records".
 
   Next thing you know, they'll be refusing to speak with SMTP clients
 that send bare linefeeds.

Bare linefeeds are indicative of possible data mutilation. 8-bit
charactiers in headers are not.

I don't know what their definition of 'improperly configured MX
records' is.

Greetz, Peter.



Re: doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:33:28PM +0100, J.J.Gallardo wrote:
 This is a doubt about the best way to compile again qmail:
 
 I have my system running qmail perfectly, but some days ago i discovered
 that qmail has not the patch that "Scott Moorhouse" re-wrote to solve
 the problem with the "Netscape's download indicator doesn't progress".
 The file involved is "qmail-pop3d.c". I have tried to compile the file
 (alone) with the patch apliayed, but may be the file has some
 dependencies with another files ( I cannot run  "cc or gcc" over the
 file) and so, we have to re-compile all the qmail distribution.
 
 Can I compile "qmail" in another machine and later move and/or copy only
 /var/qmail/bin/*?
 That's my best option cause only stop the server a minute at the time of
 day i wish, but i would like to know others opinions about this.

You can just
- apply the patch
- 'make'
- copy qmail-pop3d to /var/qmail/bin (you might need to shutdown pop3
  for a second to do so)

qmail-pop3d is the only program affected by this patch.

Greetz, Peter.



Re: doubts about re-compile

2001-01-29 Thread J.J.Gallardo

Jose AP Celestino escribi:

 Is qmail-pop3d.c the only file affected by the patch?

I don't know. Is there a way to know it?

 If so why don't you cd the qmail source tree, apply the patch and then:
 make
 and copy the qmail-pop3d to /var/qmail/bin ?

I hope. Thanks




Re: rblsmtpd

2001-01-29 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Mate

On 29-Jan-01, you wrote:

 I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp
 program and has a -a query.  The only thing about this is why it
 says "anti-listed" instead of listed.
 
 
 Perhaps you want to read the docs for rblsmtpd for the meaning of the
 -a flag.
 
 Unpatched rblsmtpd blocks using TXT records.
 
 Mate
 

There isn't a man rblsmtpd. what other docs besides DJB's ucspi-tcp
(rblsmtmp)   http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html

Options: 
-r base: Use base as an RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is listed by that
source if d.c.b.a.
base has a TXT record. rblsmtpd uses the contents of the TXT record as an
error message for the client. 
-a base: Use base as an anti-RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is
anti-listed by that source if d.c
.b.a.base has an A record. In this case rblsmtpd does not block mail. 

This is the reference to :-

"The only thing about this is why it says "anti-listed" instead of listed."

That I made.  I am not sure why it says "anti-listed". As in not in the rbl.
It seems to be saying that if the IP matches then it's allowed.

I'd have thought that if they had changed their rbl listing from txt to
A-record, then doing a A-record against it and getting a result would be
"listed" and then qmail would deny the connection.

Obviously, I'm missing something here, but that section of the
ucspi-tcp/rblmstpd is just not clear.

Regards...Martin
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taste."

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Re: 2 problems with QMAIL

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Sill

Tomas TPS Ulej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
./Maildir' splogger qmail

That should be:

 ./Maildir/' splogger qmail

(note the trailing slash)

-Dave



Re: Delivery notification

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:21:36PM -0300, suporte wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm looking for a way to implement something like 'Delivery Notification'. I
 want to let my users know that his/her e-mail was delivered successfully to
 the other side ( or at least have an affirmative return from the other SMTP
 server... ).
 
 Does anybody know a solution for this problem ?

You can use qreceipt to do it on your side (man qreceipt).

Greetz, Peter.



Re: Delivery notification

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Pennace

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:21:14PM -0300, suporte wrote:
 I'm looking for a way to implement something like 'Delivery Notification'. I
 want to let my users know that his/her e-mail was delivered successfully to
 the other side ( or at least have an affirmative return from the other SMTP
 server... ).
 
 Does anybody know a solution for this problem ?

qmail does this, its method of indicating a successful delivery is silence.



RE: Delivery notification

2001-01-29 Thread LocaWeb

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:21:14PM -0300, suporte wrote:
 I'm looking for a way to implement something like 'Delivery
Notification'. I
 want to let my users know that his/her e-mail was delivered successfully
to
 the other side ( or at least have an affirmative return from the other
SMTP
 server... ).

 Does anybody know a solution for this problem ?

qmail does this, its method of indicating a successful delivery is silence.

I know I can read it in the logfiles, but I was thinking of something that
do that in an automated way, like generating a new confirmation message in
the inbox.





Re: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Sill

"NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why when a send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with my account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in Outlook or The Bat!, i receveid this message in
double ?

What's in antivirus' .qmail file? What Do The Logs Say? (tm)

-Dave



RE: RE: is there a filter to scan message header and reject accordingly

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Sill

Wolfgang Zeikat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

#!/bin/bash
#~/filter
cat  /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt
if [ "$(grep 'Subject: whatever' /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt)" = "Subject:
whatever" ]
then
cat "/tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt" | qmail-inject devnul
else
cat "/tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt" | qmail-inject $USER-real
fi
rm -f /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt



/var/qmail/alias/.qmail-devnul will delete every mail sent to devnul

Why not just not re-inject it?

Also, save a fork/exec by doing:

  qmail-inject $USER-real  /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt

instead of "cat ... | qmail-inject ...".

-Dave



RE: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread NDSoftware

The logs say only for one message !

Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware
http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A
UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751
USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A

-Original Message-
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail problem


"NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why when a send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with my account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in Outlook or The Bat!, i receveid this message
in
double ?

What's in antivirus' .qmail file? What Do The Logs Say? (tm)

-Dave




RE: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Sill

"NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The logs say only for one message !

OK, but I'd still like to see a sample. And you never answered by
other question:

What's in antivirus' .qmail file?

-Dave



Re: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:25:25PM +0100, NDSoftware wrote:
 The logs say only for one message !

I don't think so. What do the logs say?

(we are not asking for your interpretation. We are asking for logfile
excerpts).

Greetz, Peter.



Moving qmail servers

2001-01-29 Thread Steve Woolley

I recently tried (unsuccessfully) to replace one of my qmail servers (Red
Hat Linux 6.2)
by:

1) creating new qmail server (lets call it mail2)

2) tar'ing up the following dirs:
/var/qmail/control
/var/qmail/queue
/var/qmail/users
/home/vpopmail/domains (cause I use vpopmail)
/home/vpopmail/users (cause I use vpopmail)

3) stopping the qmail processes on mail1 (the qmail server to be
replaced) and mail2

4) un-tar'ing the files on the mail2

5) shutdown server mail1

6) rename and re-IP mail2 to mail1 by editting the following:
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
/etc/hosts
/etc/sysconfig/network
/etc/HOSTNAME

7)  bring up new qmail server (now known as mail1)

The hopes were by following this pattern I would:
* experience very little down time
* if a problem occured, all I had to do was simply shutdown new
qmail server and bring up old one
* no DNS changes to make

The only problem was it didn't work. Everything seemed to come up OK. Email
could be queued up
but would not get delivered UNTIL I bounced the box. In this case all the
mail that was queued
up got sent but any new mail still experienced the problem (it would queue
up but would not be
delivered until I rebooted the box).

After a few frustrating attempts at fixing, I simply shut the new box down
and brought
up the old one.

The only thing I could guess was the when qmail is compiled, I remember the
instructions were specific about making sure (hostname -f) responded with
the
FQDN. Since at the time the box was compiled, the FQDN of the
new qmail server was mail2.domainname.com, this caused some problem
when I shifted the FQDN to mail1.domainname.com.

Questions:

Is their a better way to perform this task?

Did I miss some key task when I renamed and re-IP'd the new qmail server?

Steve Woolley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Moving qmail servers

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Kramarov








  The problem is probably with you moving the queue directory (which is 
  a definite no-no, because the filenames in there must correspond to their 
  inode numbers). Check out queue-fix on qmail-org, it should help at least 
  one of your problems.
  
  ---Original Message---
  
  
  From: Steve Woolley 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, January 29, 
  2001 08:50:16 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Moving qmail 
  servers
  I recently tried (unsuccessfully) to replace one of my 
  qmail servers (RedHat Linux 6.2)by:1) creating new qmail 
  server (lets call it mail2)2) tar'ing up the following 
  dirs:/var/qmail/control/var/qmail/queue/var/qmail/users/home/vpopmail/domains 
  (cause I use vpopmail)/home/vpopmail/users (cause I use 
  vpopmail)3) stopping the qmail processes on mail1 (the qmail 
  server to bereplaced) and mail24) un-tar'ing the files on the 
  mail25) shutdown server mail16) rename and re-IP mail2 to 
  mail1 by editting the 
  following:/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0/etc/hosts/etc/sysconfig/network/etc/HOSTNAME7) 
  bring up new qmail server (now known as mail1)The hopes were by 
  following this pattern I would:* experience very little down time* 
  if a problem occured, all I had to do was simply shutdown newqmail 
  server and bring up old one* no DNS changes to makeThe only 
  problem was it didn't work. Everything seemed to come up OK. 
  Emailcould be queued upbut would not get delivered UNTIL I bounced 
  the box. In this case all themail that was queuedup got sent but 
  any new mail still experienced the problem (it would queueup but would 
  not bedelivered until I rebooted the box).After a few 
  frustrating attempts at fixing, I simply shut the new box downand 
  broughtup the old one.The only thing I could guess was the 
  when qmail is compiled, I remember theinstructions were specific about 
  making sure (hostname -f) responded withtheFQDN. Since at the time 
  the box was compiled, the FQDN of thenew qmail server was 
  mail2.domainname.com, this caused some problemwhen I shifted the FQDN 
  to mail1.domainname.com.Questions:Is their a better way to 
  perform this task?Did I miss some key task when I renamed and 
  re-IP'd the new qmail server?Steve 
  Woolley[EMAIL PROTECTED]








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2001-01-29 Thread Alex Kramarov








  Maybe a maximum-mail size has to be set on the box running this list, 
  to prevent such errors from happening again. a simple
  
  echo 2000 /var/qmail/control/databytes 
  
  would suffice ...





	
	
	
	
	
	
	





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Re: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread Markus Stumpf

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:25:25PM +0100, NDSoftware wrote:
 The logs say only for one message !

And the headers of the emails please.
Possibly the MUA does a Fcc and as the mail is to yourself you end up
with two copies, a local saved one and a sent and received one.

\Maex




Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Pennace

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:01:50PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
 Maybe a maximum-mail size has to be set on the box running this list, to prevent 
such errors from happening again. a simple
 
 echo 2000 /var/qmail/control/databytes 
 
 would suffice ...

You do realize that a limit of 2000 bytes will reject nearly every
message, right?



Re: Moving qmail servers

2001-01-29 Thread Markus Stumpf

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:55:26PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
 The problem is probably with you moving the queue directory (which is a definite 
no-no, because the filenames in there must correspond to their inode numbers). Check 
out queue-fix on qmail-org, it should help at least one of your problems.

an easy way to "move" the queue would have been to
- allow relaying for mailold on mailnew
- make mailold:/var/qmail/control/smtproutes consist of one single line
  :mailnew.domain
- on mailold:  # kill -ALRM pidof(qmail-send)

\Maex




RE: qmail problem

2001-01-29 Thread NDSoftware

Mail1:
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 2389 invoked by uid 503); 29 Jan 2001 19:17:26 -
Received: from unknown (HELO billy) (193.253.221.190)
  by ns207.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2001 19:17:26 -
From: "NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:13:14 +0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal

Mail2:
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 2389 invoked by uid 503); 29 Jan 2001 19:17:26 -
Received: from unknown (HELO billy) (193.253.221.190)
  by ns207.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2001 19:17:26 -
From: "NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:13:14 +0100
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal



Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware
http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A
UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751
USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A

-Original Message-
From: Markus Stumpf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:02 PM
To: NDSoftware
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail problem


On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 07:25:25PM +0100, NDSoftware wrote:
 The logs say only for one message !

And the headers of the emails please.
Possibly the MUA does a Fcc and as the mail is to yourself you end up
with two copies, a local saved one and a sent and received one.

\Maex





Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Kramarov








  well, that was in the heat of the moment, make it 5000. But 2000 can 
  make people send in plain text, someone hasalready proposed 
  thishere.
  
  ---Original Message---
  
  
  From: Alex Pennace 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, January 29, 
  2001 09:10:19 PM
  To: Alex Kramarov 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Qmail 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Sorry about the 
  size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).
  On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:01:50PM +0200, Alex Kramarov 
  wrote: Maybe a maximum-mail size has to be set on the box running 
  this list, to prevent such errors from happening again. a simple 
   echo 2000 /var/qmail/control/databytes   
  would suffice ...You do realize that a limit of 2000 bytes will 
  reject nearly everymessage, right?





	
	
	
	
	
	
	





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filter

2001-01-29 Thread Pablo Martin De Natale

Hello! I'm a new user of qmail. I need filter a direction [EMAIL PROTECTED],
how can I do it?

Thanks
Pablo





RE: RE: is there a filter to scan message header and reject accordingly

2001-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat

In the previous episode (29.01.2001), Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

#!/bin/bash
#~/filter
cat  /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt
if [ "$(grep 'Subject: whatever' /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt)" = "Subject:
whatever" ]
then
cat "/tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt" | qmail-inject devnul
else
cat "/tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt" | qmail-inject $USER-real
fi
rm -f /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt



/var/qmail/alias/.qmail-devnul will delete every mail sent to devnul

Why not just not re-inject it?

i wasnt sure if i could use that "if" construction directly in a .qmail
file (can that be done?), and cat was the only thing i could think of to
"keep the data in mind" in order to handle them differently depending on
the result of "if" (i also tried storing the mail in a variable as in
MESSAGE="$(cat)", but that screwed things up ...

Also, save a fork/exec by doing:

  qmail-inject $USER-real  /tmp/to$RECIPIENT.txt

instead of "cat ... | qmail-inject ...".

yeah, good idea ;)

wolfgang





RE: Secure IMAP server

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Owen


 I don't know what their definition of 'improperly configured MX
 records' is.

I was also curious, so I took a quick scan through the sources.  It
appears that this means MX records pointing to recursive CNAME records.
This is not apparently configurable.

Courier also apparently allows you to block mail with bad return
addresses, presumably meaning no A or MX.  This is configurable via config
file.

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!
 



Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Markus Stumpf

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
 well, that was in the heat of the moment, make it 5000. But 2000 can make people 
send in plain text, someone has already proposed this here.

Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of messages
to this mailing list, only because
a) you use a broken MUA
b) you are unable to configure it correctly
c) you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)

\Maex

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Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamedon this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Markus Stumpf wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
  well, that was in the heat of the moment, make it 5000. But 2000 can make people 
send in plain text, someone has already proposed this here.

 Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of messages
 to this mailing list, only because
 a) you use a broken MUA
 b) you are unable to configure it correctly
 c) you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)

Not to mention the fact that every mail he sends out has an attachment
of HTML 4-5 times the size.

Vince.
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Re: Moving qmail servers

2001-01-29 Thread Steve Woolley

 The problem is probably with you moving the queue directory (which is a
definite no-no, because the filenames in there must

So would the proper order have been to:

first: halt qmail processes on original qmail server

then: copy /var/qmail/control and /var/qmail/users to new qmail server

This would have halt qmail from accepting new emails. The transmitting
email servers would have attempted a resend preiodically and
once the new email server was up, everyone would be happy.

Steve




Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beemflamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Peter Woods

216.25.232.3
216.25.232.4


 Original Message 

On 1/29/01, 2:20:39 PM, Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on 
this before).:


 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Markus Stumpf wrote:

  On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
   well, that was in the heat of the moment, make it 5000. But 2000 can make 
people send in plain text, someone has already proposed this here.
 
  Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of messages
  to this mailing list, only because
  a) you use a broken MUA
  b) you are unable to configure it correctly
  c) you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)

 Not to mention the fact that every mail he sends out has an attachment
 of HTML 4-5 times the size.

 Vince.
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Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beemflamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Peter Woods

Add me to "Sorry list".  pasted into the wrong reply.


Peter Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Re: Sorry about 
the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).:
 216.25.232.3
 216.25.232.4


  Original Message 

 On 1/29/01, 2:20:39 PM, Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
 Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on
 this before).:


  On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Markus Stumpf wrote:

   On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Alex Kramarov wrote:
well, that was in the heat of the moment, make it 5000. But 2000 can make
 people send in plain text, someone has already proposed this here.
  
   Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of messages
   to this mailing list, only because
   a) you use a broken MUA
   b) you are unable to configure it correctly
   c) you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)

  Not to mention the fact that every mail he sends out has an attachment
  of HTML 4-5 times the size.

  Vince.
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RE: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Henry Ong

haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times 
but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server

:-)

-henry



On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Hubbard, David wrote:

 I know this can be very complicated but try sending an email to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the address you subscribed
 with, and this is the qmail list, not a dam list.  :-)
 
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST
 
 
 I have tried multiple times to unsubscribe from this list- I have no clue
 why it has not worked.  I wish to remove any addresses @whtz.com AS WELL as
 @z100.com.  I am the sys admin in charge of these domains, amd do not wish
 to receive any more mailings
 
 
 GET ME OFF THIS DAM LIST
 
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Re: Moving qmail servers

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Delany

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:23:14PM -0500, Steve Woolley wrote:
  The problem is probably with you moving the queue directory (which is a
 definite no-no, because the filenames in there must
 
 So would the proper order have been to:
 
 first: halt qmail processes on original qmail server

I'd leave everything running except your network services, smtp, pop.
Just let the old system run for a week, draining it's queue. The full
sequence is:

1a. Compile and install qmail on your new system
1b. Install all control and user files as needed
1c. Start qmail on the new system (but not popd or smtpd)
1d. Test thoroughly

2a. Stop smtp and pop on the old system
2b. Wait for local deliveries on the old system to complete
(Normally a matter of seconds)

3a. Stop qmail on old system
3b. Remove control/virtualdomains
3c. Change control/locals (or me) to something different (oldserver.yourdomain?)
3d. Start qmail on old system (but not popd or smtpd)

4.  Move user mailboxes to new system

5.  Start smtpd and popd on the new system

6.  Wait for mailq on old system to empty (could take days).

7.  newfs old system


If you're using Maildirs and don't mind users seeing empty mailboxes
for a while, you can do step 5 before step 4 and your users will see
much less down-time.

Note that step 3 is necessary to forward all bounces to the new
system. If you don't care about bounces, ignore step 3.


There are variations on this theme. For example, you can set
smtproutes on the old machine to forward all mail to the new
machine. That way you don't have to wait very long for the queue to
drain on the old system.


Regards.




Re: Why so few qmail-remote processes

2001-01-29 Thread Paul Jarc

Greg White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 09:30:35PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote:
  If you really want to retry failed deliveries more often, send
  qmail-send SIGHUP every once in a while.
 
 I'm no wizard or anything, but isn't ALRM the signal you want for that?
 Doesn't HUP just reread locals and rcpthosts?

Right, sorry.  /me rereads man qmail-send.


paul



Re: Re: Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Alex Kramarov








  
  Markus Stumpf 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of 
  messagesto this mailing list, only becausea) you use a 
  broken MUAb) you are unable to configure it correctlyc) 
  you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)
  I do not use a broken MUA. I use an MUA that helps me construct a more 
  personal e-mail by adding backgrounds and other multimedia elements. If 
  you want to check that out, there is a link to it's site on the bottom of 
  my e-mail. Noone I have sent a customised e-mail have ever complained, 
  except (understandably) people on this list, and only because it was sent 
  in error. I think, that in the future of e-mail is to become more 
  customisable through html presentation, thus bigger size. CNET counts 
  122000 downloads of this MUA and it's growing by thousands a day, and it's 
  website is in the top 5000 rated by ALEXA and i think that with time I 
  will not be the only one posting to this list using this MUA. Please don't 
  think I am trying to advertize it to you, I am just presenting the 
  situation as I see it. About my ability to configure it correctly, I am 
  able to do so, but it's human nature to sometimes makemistakes, this 
  is why I proposed to help correct these mistakes before they multiply by 
  1500 times (I think that the number of subscribers on this list)
  Thank you for you time, and accept my deepest apologies. I will 
  personally setup a filter on my mail server (since Irewrote 
  qmail-scanner todo just this kind of things withsmtp-incoming 
  e-mail, like I posted before) to limit the size of outgoing messages to 
  the list if the list desides that it's not appropriate to limit the size 
  of the messages.





	
	
	
	
	
	
	





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RE: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Henry Ong wrote:

 haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times
 but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server

 :-)

Look at your headers, are you unsubscribing with the address ezmlm
thinks you should be using?

Vince.
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test ignore please

2001-01-29 Thread bogus

forget this




QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Chris McDaniel


Hi,

I'm wondering what the consequences of breaking QSBMF are.  My desire is to
change the bounce messages to something more professional (we've had some
complaints) and the req'd "Hi. This is the" would probably be the first
thing to go.  So, if I change it to something else, what will I break?

Chris McDaniel
Consulting Systems Analyst - Internet Hosting Services

TELUS Integrated Communications



Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Henry

On 29-Jan-01, you wrote:

 haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times 
 but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server
 
 :-)
 
 -henry

The same account as your using to post now ?
Your not multiple subscribed ?

Anyone can post to this list whether they are subscribed or not. (the bogus
mail was just verifying it).

So just because you can post doesn't mean anything.

Look at your headers.

Look for the X-Return-Path

This is mine.

X-Return-Path   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The username in my case is   marrandy  the domain  chaossolutions.org

What you see in your headers is the name AND domain you are subscribed to
the list under.

You need to unsubscribe from that account.

If your MTA is changing the domain from, for example I'll use mine, 
chaossolutions.org   to   mail.chaossolutions.org

that may be enough to prevent your unsubscription...something else to check.

Remember...it's what it says in that  X-Return-Path header that is critical.

Hope this helps.

Regards...Martin
-- 
A fool and his money are soon parted.





Re: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Dave Sill

Chris McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm wondering what the consequences of breaking QSBMF are.  My desire is to
change the bounce messages to something more professional (we've had some
complaints)

Seriously? Sheesh.

and the req'd "Hi. This is the" would probably be the first
thing to go.  So, if I change it to something else, what will I
break?

Well, anything that parses QSBMF. I'm not sure offhand what the
consequences would be, though. Most bounce handlers are pretty
flexible, by necessity. I'll have to check the code to be sure.

-Dave



Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Aaron L. Meehan

Quoting Alex Kramarov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Markus Stumpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
 Why should anyone impose artificial limits on the size of messages
 to this mailing list, only because
 a) you use a broken MUA
 b) you are unable to configure it correctly
 c) you seem to be the only one that has permanent problems with a) and b)

 I do not use a broken MUA. 

Yes, you do.  It doesn't even wrap your blasted lines properly; your
entire email was on two lines, one for each paragraph.  What, you think
that when your GUI moves the cursor down a line it's actually putting
a carriage return in there?  Think again.  Broken.

It doesn't add a References header to your replies.  That messes up
web archives.  Broken.

Your mailer seems to insist on putting a "Re:" in the Subject even when
it is already there.  Broken.

In short, your MUA is broken.  Am I starting to sound like a broken
record?  I think so.  

You're using a broken mailer and sending html in your email to a
mailing list for a UNIX MTA, populated by BOFHs.  I can't imagine what
on Earth you're thinking...

Aaron



Re: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Scott Gifford

Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Chris McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm wondering what the consequences of breaking QSBMF are.  My
 desire is to change the bounce messages to something more
 professional (we've had some complaints)
 
 Seriously? Sheesh.

We got similar complaints for our mail system.

 and the req'd "Hi. This is the" would probably be the first thing
 to go.  So, if I change it to something else, what will I break?
 
 Well, anything that parses QSBMF. I'm not sure offhand what the
 consequences would be, though. Most bounce handlers are pretty
 flexible, by necessity. I'll have to check the code to be sure.

We made a change like this nearly a year ago, and have had zero
issues.

--ScottG.



Re: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Andy Bradford

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:48:21 +0200, "Alex Kramarov" wrote:


 I do not use a broken MUA. I use an MUA that helps me construct
 a more personal e-mail by adding backgrounds and other multimedia
 elements. If you want to check that out, there is a link to it's site
 on the bottom of my e-mail. Noone I have sent a customised e-mail
 have ever complained, except (understandably) people on this list,
 and only because it was sent in error. I think, that in the future

If it's so configurable, can you customize it to wrap lines properly ad 
a reasonbale length please?

Andy
p.s and turn off the HTML if you can... :-)




Re: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Delany

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:01:02PM -0500, Scott Gifford wrote:
 Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Chris McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I'm wondering what the consequences of breaking QSBMF are.  My
  desire is to change the bounce messages to something more
  professional (we've had some complaints)
  
  Seriously? Sheesh.
 
 We got similar complaints for our mail system.

Not complaints. But I've seen people reply in the mistaken belief that
something that "chatty" must come from a real person. Quite amusing
sometimes.


Regards.




Re: Subtle qmail bug? (was Re: Handling an MX record of 0.0.0.0 o r 127.0.0.1)

2001-01-29 Thread Paul Jarc

Scott Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It means that a user sending a steady stream of 10 (small)
 messages/sec over a dialup connection makes your system deal with
 600 messages/sec, which would normally take a T1.

But this doesn't involve any real network connections - it's all on
loopback.  So it wouldn't saturate an actual T1, if that's what you
were saying.  Right?


paul



Re: Subtle qmail bug? (was Re: Handling an MX record of 0.0.0.0 o r 127.0.0.1)

2001-01-29 Thread Greg White

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:56:38PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote:
 Scott Gifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It means that a user sending a steady stream of 10 (small)
  messages/sec over a dialup connection makes your system deal with
  600 messages/sec, which would normally take a T1.
 
 But this doesn't involve any real network connections - it's all on
 loopback.  So it wouldn't saturate an actual T1, if that's what you
 were saying.  Right?

I believe that the Scott's point is best illustrated this way (and
forgive me if I'm wrong here, Scott):

A user on a dialup sending 10 messages per second can start a DoS
attack normally only possible for a user with a T1, consisting of
600 messages per second.

Thus, a lowly dialup user can now mount a much nastier DoS attack
than he could against MTAs which do not exhibit this problem.

-- 
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy



RE: Sorry about the size of my prevous e-mail (I have beem flamed on this before).

2001-01-29 Thread Matt Bailey


Or better yet get off the list..



Re: Secure IMAP server

2001-01-29 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Sam Trenholme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The writers of Courier are a pedantic bunch.  They reject mail with
 8-bit info in the headers and will not send mail to places with
 "improperly configured MX records".

Good to see you again, Sam. *sigh* Still haven't learnt anything, have
you?  

,[ Sam Varshavchik in http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users ]
| On 14 Jan 2001, Robin S. Socha wrote:
| 
|  OK, this question is as close to a no-brainer as it may get, but I'll
|  ask anyway (fully aware of the stupidity of asking "how secure is X"):
| 
|  How secure is Courier IMAP?
| 
| I'm still waiting for the first reported exploit.
`

So much for that. Far, far more than anything that can be said about
UW-crapware, including:

Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

find pine4.30 -type f | xargs egrep '(sprintf|strcpy|strcat)' | wc -l
4375

Get a life, Sam. Really.
-- 
Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/
"Robin: You are a rude twit." 
Sam Trenholme in comp.mail.pine



Re: Hi

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brett Randall wrote:
  On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, i would like to use maildir instead of mailbox, but now
  theres a problem, does imap support maildir? what is the best
  imap daemon which works with maildir?
 
 Read the FAQ and the docs that come with qmail. There's a 
 start for you.
 
   Better yet, don't listen to Brett, who doesn't appear to know what
 the hell he's talking about, and who appears to post only so he can be
 abusive.

My apologies. I haven't slept in three days, working on a huge
project, and I didn't think before I hit the send button. I only
know that I set up an IMAP server without having to think twice
about it, and I guess I took the situation to heart.

Best regards
-- 
  B r e t t  R a n d a l l
   http://xbox.ipsware.com/
brett  _ @ _  ipsware.com



Re: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:30:13PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote:
[snip]
 and the req'd "Hi. This is the" would probably be the first
 thing to go.  So, if I change it to something else, what will I
 break?
 
 Well, anything that parses QSBMF. I'm not sure offhand what the
 consequences would be, though. Most bounce handlers are pretty
 flexible, by necessity. I'll have to check the code to be sure.

I am not aware of any software parsing QSMBF. Are you?

Greetz, Peter.



Re: Subtle qmail bug? (was Re: Handling an MX record of 0.0.0.0 o r 127.0.0.1)

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 03:17:14PM -0800, Greg White wrote:
[snip]
 A user on a dialup sending 10 messages per second can start a DoS
 attack normally only possible for a user with a T1, consisting of
 600 messages per second.

And with only the system-load (taken as a broad concept :) associated
with that attack. There is no network-bandwidth-abuse involved.
(localhost is not considered a network, here).

Greetz, Peter.



RE: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Dan Egli

I'm not even sure what QSMBF is.

-Original Message-
From: Peter van Dijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: QSBMF -


On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:30:13PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote:
[snip]
 and the req'd "Hi. This is the" would probably be the first
 thing to go.  So, if I change it to something else, what will I
 break?
 
 Well, anything that parses QSBMF. I'm not sure offhand what the
 consequences would be, though. Most bounce handlers are pretty
 flexible, by necessity. I'll have to check the code to be sure.

I am not aware of any software parsing QSMBF. Are you?

Greetz, Peter.



Re: QSBMF -

2001-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 05:52:33PM -0700, Dan Egli wrote:
 I'm not even sure what QSMBF is.

http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt (yes, some of us were misspelling it
:)

Greetz, Peter.



unsubscribe ??

2001-01-29 Thread kevin

how do I unsubscribe?
there is no info on qmail.org??

Kevin



Re: Secure IMAP server

2001-01-29 Thread Sam Trenholme


 Get a life, Sam. Really.

Sigh, oh, sigh.  I haven't heard a word from you in three years, so I
thought that you, like me, completely forgot about it.

For the other members of the list, I am sorry this personal spat, which I
thought I had resolved with Robin three years ago, has been taken to this
list.  I could post details, but, you know, there is nothing I dislike
seeing more on the internet than someone else's flame war.

Since I do not think Robin is willing to really listen to me, and since I
don't exactly have free time these days, I will simply filter Robin's mail
to my spam filter.  Since I do, now and again, check the mail that my spam
filter stops, I will still read Robin's mail, should be be really
interested in resolving this issue at some time in the future.

Sorry to waste people's time with this flame war.

Take care, Robin, and I hope you find what you are looking for.  I
apologized for engaging in that flame war three years ago, and I apologize
to you again.  I really do not want to see any anger you may have stop you
from finding your bliss.

- Sam





Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Medi Montaseri


me too
where is the instruction for unsubscribing...
Henry Ong wrote:
haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a few times
but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server
:-)
-henry
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Hubbard, David wrote:
> I know this can be very complicated but try sending an email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the address you subscribed
> with, and this is the qmail list, not a dam list. :-)
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST
>
>
> I have tried multiple times to unsubscribe from this list- I have
no clue
> why it has not worked. I wish to remove any addresses @whtz.com
AS WELL as
> @z100.com. I am the sys admin in charge of these domains, amd
do not wish
> to receive any more mailings
>
>
> GET ME OFF THIS DAM LIST
>
> BERNARD J. COURTNEY
> Z100/WHTZ RADIO
> MIS/ENGINEERING DEPT.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Lincoln Yeoh

Hi,

How do I do this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - XXX@finaldomaincom

That is to say mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is sent/forwarded/redirected to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the To: etc should not be rewritten, just the RCPT
TO: ). 

Right now I'm doing this with sendmail. But I would like to switch to qmail.

I've taken a look at qmail's virtualdomains but it seems like that's for
entire domains going to a SINGLE user. Similarly for users/assign.

I tried defining domain1.com and domain2.com as local, and putting | forward
$[EMAIL PROTECTED] in .alias-default

This seemed to work but it's rather ugly/kludgy and I'm hoping there's a
better way to do it.

Cheerio,
Link.



Re: translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do I do this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - XXX@finaldomaincom

In smtproutes (on Server A) -

domain1.com:mx.finaldomain.com
domain2.com:mx.finaldomain.com

In locals (on Server A) -

{empty}

In locals (on Server B) -

domain1.com
domain2.com

In rcpthosts (on both servers) -

domain1.com
domain2.com

This should work easy.
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   http://xbox.ipsware.com/
brett  _ @ _  ipsware.com



Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat

when you send a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
you get a reply - sent to the address that you mailed from of course -
to which you have to reply once more for confirmation (so that nobody can
subscribe your adress by forging it)

i just tried it ...

wolfgang

--
if it is there and you can see it   it is real
if it is there and you can not see it   it is transparent
if it is not there and you can see it   it is virtual
if it is not there and you can not see it   it is gone

roy wilks 1983, tcp/ip networking


In the previous episode (29.01.2001), Medi Montaseri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
me too
where is the instruction for unsubscribing...

Henry Ong wrote:

 haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times
 but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server





qmail or postfix for high volume mailing list?

2001-01-29 Thread Philip Mak

Hello,

I am looking into hosting a high volume discussion list (~3000 users, 20
MB of messages per month). The available hardware will probably be a RaQ3
server with 32 MB of RAM (should I pay for more RAM? if so, how much?), so
I wouldn't have much system resources to spare. My preferred MLM is
Listar.

I'm looking into MTAs; from the various mailing list archives I've read on
the web, it seems that qmail and postfix are the top MTAs. I could not
find information to tell me which one would work better for my situation,
however.

Can someone tell me: Should I use qmail or postfix to run this discussion
list? I am not very concerned about configuration difficulties since I
only have to set it up one time, but performance will be important.

-Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




Re: translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Chris Johnson

On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:52:52AM +0800, Lincoln Yeoh wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How do I do this:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - XXX@finaldomaincom
 
 That is to say mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is sent/forwarded/redirected to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the To: etc should not be rewritten, just the RCPT
 TO: ). 

Is finaldomain.com hosted on the same box as domain1.com? If so, and
finaldomain.com is local, make domain1.com local too. If finaldomain.com is
virtual, create another entry in virtualdomains identical to the entry for
finaldomain.com, but change the domain name to domain1.com.

If finaldomain.com is hosted elsewhere and you just want to forward everything,
you can do this:

echo 'domain1.com:alias-domain1'  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
echo '|forward "$DEFAULT"@finaldomain.com'  /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-domain1-default

Why don't you just change domain1.com's MX record so that the mail just goes
directly to whatever host handles finaldomain.com?

Chris



Re: translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Lincoln Yeoh

Thanks, but will the RCPT TO: be changed accordingly?

e.g.
External client to Server A

Mail from:
rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
blahblahblah
crlfdotcrlf

Then:

Server A to Server B
Mail from:
rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
blahblahblah
crlfdotcrlf

Because Server B will only accept mails in the form of [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I have limited control over Server B (it's not running qmail either).

Thanks again,
Link.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 In smtproutes (on Server A) -
 
 domain1.com:mx.finaldomain.com
 domain2.com:mx.finaldomain.com
 



Re: translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Brett Randall

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, but will the RCPT TO: be changed accordingly?

snip

 Because Server B will only accept mails in the form of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 I have limited control over Server B (it's not running qmail
 either).

In that case, since you have to readdress the e-mail, the best way I
can think of doing is using .qmail files for each user. I've never
done this, but try having just one .qmail file (say /etc/qmail), and
symbolically linking the files from each user, so if you have to
change servers you just change the one file.

I might be wrong though. Its been awhile since I've had to configure
qmail (it works by itself now), so if I am wrong then someone will let
us know ;)
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brett  _ @ _  ipsware.com



Re: translating or remapping domains to another domain?

2001-01-29 Thread Lincoln Yeoh

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Chris Johnson wrote:

 If finaldomain.com is hosted elsewhere and you just want to forward everything,
 you can do this:
 
 echo 'domain1.com:alias-domain1'  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 echo '|forward "$DEFAULT"@finaldomain.com'  /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-domain1-default

YES! This looks like it might work. 

Previously I saw | forward "$LOCAL"@domain.com somewhere in the FAQ and tried
that. But that didn't work as the RCPT TO: ended up being something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Will there be any security issues passing $DEFAULT in that way?

 Why don't you just change domain1.com's MX record so that the mail just goes
 directly to whatever host handles finaldomain.com?

Because there's no direct access to the host from the Internet.

Thanks very much,
Link.



Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread David Young
Title: Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST



>From http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#support

To specify a subscription/unsubscription address, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], send the message to:

* listname[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Medi Montaseri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: PrePass
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:09:00 -0800
To: Henry Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Hubbard, David [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST


me too 
where is the instruction for unsubscribing... 

Henry Ong wrote: 
haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times 
but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server 

:-) 

-henry 

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Hubbard, David wrote: 

 I know this can be very complicated but try sending an email to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the address you subscribed 
 with, and this is the qmail list, not a dam list. :-) 
 
 Dave 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:33 PM 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST 
 
 
 I have tried multiple times to unsubscribe from this list- I have no clue 
 why it has not worked. I wish to remove any addresses @whtz.com AS WELL as 
 @z100.com. I am the sys admin in charge of these domains, amd do not wish 
 to receive any more mailings 
 
 
 GET ME OFF THIS DAM LIST 
 
 BERNARD J. COURTNEY 
 Z100/WHTZ RADIO 
 MIS/ENGINEERING DEPT. 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-- 
== 
 name : Henry Ong 
 web : http://www.ensim.com 
 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 phone : (408) 541-4438 
==
-- 
===
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=== 






Re: unsubscribe ??

2001-01-29 Thread Peter Cavender

Read the first message you got when you subscribed to the list, it tells
you how.

Since the list is run by ezmlm, maybe you should look at the documentation
for it.

I also offer a service where I can get you unsubscribed for $59.95.  I
accept payment by paypal or cash, but you must be willing to type an email
message exactly as I instruct from the proper address.  If you are
unable to do so, I can subcontract with Kelly Temporary services to send a
computer-literate secretary to your site to do the typing for
you.  Additional fees equalling their charges will apply.

If none of these options are acceptable, I can fly to your site, and for
$50 an hour plus actual expenses, perform the unsubscribe at your
location.

If this fails, we can hire a negotiation/moderation consulting firm to
contact DJB personally to arrainge an unsubscribe.

If he is unwilling to negotiate, I can hire team of lawyers in
his jurisdiction to take the matter before the courts.

If this proves fruitless, and you are determined, a team of mercenaries
equipped with white phosphorus grenades may be able to take out the server
hosting this list. (this offer may not be available at all locations).

But if the sever is housed in a hardened bunker, repeated strikes with
thermonuclear devices may be necessary to get you unsubscibed.  I can
contact former USSR personnel for current rates.

Unfortunately, since the internet was designed to deal with catastrophic
faults of this exact nature, you still may not be removed from the mailing
list.

If repeated strikes with multi-megaton devies are needed, my fees will
includes the cost of constructing a personal sustainable biosphere.

Local taxes will apply.

If you are still reading this and think I am serious, please be advised
that this is satyrical.   RTFFMYG! (read the first frigging message you
got)

--P


On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how do I unsubscribe?
 there is no info on qmail.org??
 
 Kevin
 




Max message size on aliases

2001-01-29 Thread Raymond Orchison



Hi,

I have a unix user iad001 on my linux box. All mail 
for iad001 is sent to /var/spool/mail/iad001. I also have an /etc/aliases.db 
file in which my email address raymondo@mydomain is aliased to iad001. 


How do I set a max message size on a per alias 
basis? I tried using the mailquota.sh script from qmail.org but that never 
worked, I assume aliases don't use the home directory.

Thanks
Raymond


redirecting to ezmlm

2001-01-29 Thread Uri Guttman


i am using fetchmail to get all my pop mail and it directs it all to my
user name and i use my .qmail to redirect it to a mail filter (a perl
script using Mail::Procmail). that script detects messages to my lists
and resends them back to qmail which should forward them to the ezmlm
code. it seems to work when i subscribe from this box as me. but from an
outside account, the ezmlm confirm reply gets sent to me and not to the
address that requested the subscribe. here is the message that ezmlm
generated was sent to me and not to the other guy


Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 1654 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2001 01:07:03 -
Received: from localhost (HELO mail) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2001 01:07:03 -
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Authentication-Warning: syslang.localhost.localdomain: steveo owned
process doing -bs
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:45:52 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven W. Orr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test shit
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
main
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
X-Uidl: HK"!3=8!!o6!!Fhd"!
Status: RO
X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.32
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



so it seems qmail/ezmlm didn't use the reply-to or from headers but the
return-path or sender ones. how can i get this redirection to look like
it came from the originator? the goal obviously is to get this sent back
to the originator and not to me.

for those who care this is how i am redirecting any list messages back
to qmail. it is from my filter script.

for ( qw( drum mmg ) ) {
if ( $m_TO =~ /$_([^@]+)?\@sysarch\.com/i and $m_mailing_list !~ /$_/ ) {

$m_obj-delete( 'Delivered-To' ) ;

pm_resend( "uri-$_$1\@sysarch.com" ) ;
}
}

i am deleting delivered-to stop qmail from throwing this out. i just
prepend my user name to the address as that is how i set up ezmlm lists
for me.

any ideas?

thanx,

uri

-- 
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SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
The Perl Books Page  ---  http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books
The Best Search Engine on the Net  --  http://www.northernlight.com



Re: relay-ctrl-age problem

2001-01-29 Thread Boz Crowther

Skip it.  I'm a dope, and must have screwed something up.

- Original Message -
From: "Boz Crowther" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Qmail@List. Cr. Yp. To" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:22 PM
Subject: relay-ctrl-age problem


 I'm trying to run relay-ctrl-age to allow for smtp relaying after pop3
 authentication.  I'm trying to run it from root-crontab, but even if I run
 it from the command line as root I get an "access denied" error on the
 tcprules directory.

 Has anyone else had this problem, and if so, what's the resolution?
Thanks.






Re: Error: #4.4.2 - connected but connection died

2001-01-29 Thread Sam Trenholme

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Joel Gautschi wrote:

 hi,
 I get this error when user try to send a message to freesurf.ch. Is this my
 problem, or is it the problem of freesurf.ch?

 cya
 Joel

 Jan 29 11:30:57 joshua qmail: 980764257.483799 delivery 1: deferral:
 Connected_to_194.230.0.8_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/

This comes up because either you, or the ISP you are talking to has a
flakey internet connection which dies before the message can be sent.

How large are these messages that keep getting deferred?  A lot of places
can not handle 20 meg attachments and what not.

- Sam (Who recently had our entire system upgraded so people could send us
   100 meg attachments)






Re: qmail or postfix for high volume mailing list?

2001-01-29 Thread Sam Trenholme


Oh boy, since this is cross-posted to both the qmail and to the Postfix
list, this could become a holy war.

I myself have never used Postfix, but have used Qmail.  My general sense:

* Postfix and Qmail both are very hi-performance MTAs

* Qmail apprently has slightly better performance for mailing list
  stuff, Postfix has slightly more performance for indivudal mailboxes.

* Postfix is more open-source than Qmail

* Postfix is easier to configure than Qmail

* Qmail is more flexible than Postfix

You will be happy with whatever choice you make.

And oh, I would up your RAM to 128 megs.

- Sam

 Can someone tell me: Should I use qmail or postfix to run this discussion
 list?




Attachment stripping

2001-01-29 Thread usenet-qmail

Hi All

I am looking for a way to selectively strip attachments from e-mails
based on their extension. I can probably make up a way myself, but I
don't want to reinvent the wheel if someone has already done this. I
don't mind if it includes patches, other software packages, filtering
tools, or whatever. (I think Mr Socha might have a few ideas up his
little sleeve?) I've looked all over the archives with no pointers to
any real solutions.

TIA
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Re: unsubscribe ??

2001-01-29 Thread Sam Trenholme

Kevin asked:

 how do I unsubscribe?
 there is no info on qmail.org??

Normally, we charge a one-time fee of $59.95 for this service, as Peter has
explained.  However, I am offering a special contest, since it is the year
2001 (a Qmail odyssey).

The winner of this contest will get a message from the Qmail list server 
asking for their subscription to be confirmed.  In order to enter this 
contest, simply reply to this message or send an entry form to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wish you the best of luck!

And, oh, Peter, you know that Dan's server runs Open-BSD, so those Russian
thermonuclear devices will not harm the server.  He just has to enter (and
hopefully win) the contest, just like everyone else has to.

- Sam




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