Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Beds
They aren't. I tried. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Beds In a message dated 10/21/2004 5:09:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .get a queen size electric bed!!&do you know if a queen is covered under medicaid? i thought of asking but figured only hospital beds are.diane...really not sure, i have a twin size, and got it from a quad that died...actually, i got my ceiling lift from another quad that died tooguess i'm like the grim reaper of medical equipment -tony
Re: [QUAD-L] Electoral College... (Sorry Sherry)
;)
Tod.. I for one, am for the elimination of the electoral college
all together.However, that would take a constitutional amendment and radical
changes in the status quo. In technicality, we are not given the
right to vote for the President, only the electoral college
is.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Tod E.
Santee
To: Quad List
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:23
PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Electoral College...
(Sorry Sherry)
Hi All,
You know... I been curious...
In an election as close as this one reportedly is, what do you
think will happen if "Candidate A" gets the necessary 270
electoral votes but, no matter how many recounts are allowed, it
turns out (in every recount), that "Candidate B" actually won the
popular vote?
Do you think the system will change? Be forced to change? That
people will eventually let it die and begrudgingly 'accept' Candidate A
without organizing to change the system?
Is anyone here from Colorado? * I'm curious about the
proposition/measure on your ballot that will divide electoral
votes based on numbers/percentages of votes cast for the candidate...rather
than allowing a 49% -- 51% vote allow the 51% "winner" to take All 9 of
the state's electoral votes.
* What do you think about it applying to THIS election?
* What about that the CO State Contitution says that The Legislature
determines how votes are carried BUT this measure came to the ballot through
the Voter Initiative Process rather than through any true
Legislative Action by CO elected officials?
Is it OK if I stir up a hornets' nest here? I can't participate
much... but I love watchin' them suckers go at it! LOL
Best to All! Tod
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Re: [QUAD-L] Electoral College... (Sorry Sherry)
;)
Tod..
I for one, am for
the elimination of the electoral college all together.
However, that would
take a constitutional amendment and radical changes in the status
quo.
In technicality, we
are not given the right to vote for the President, only the electoral college
is.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Tod E.
Santee
To: Quad List
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:23
PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Electoral College...
(Sorry Sherry)
Hi All,
You know... I been curious...
In an election as close as this one reportedly is, what do you
think will happen if "Candidate A" gets the necessary 270
electoral votes but, no matter how many recounts are allowed, it
turns out (in every recount), that "Candidate B" actually won the
popular vote?
Do you think the system will change? Be forced to change? That
people will eventually let it die and begrudgingly 'accept' Candidate A
without organizing to change the system?
Is anyone here from Colorado? * I'm curious about the
proposition/measure on your ballot that will divide electoral
votes based on numbers/percentages of votes cast for the candidate...rather
than allowing a 49% -- 51% vote allow the 51% "winner" to take All 9 of
the state's electoral votes.
* What do you think about it applying to THIS election?
* What about that the CO State Contitution says that The Legislature
determines how votes are carried BUT this measure came to the ballot through
the Voter Initiative Process rather than through any true
Legislative Action by CO elected officials?
Is it OK if I stir up a hornets' nest here? I can't participate
much... but I love watchin' them suckers go at it! LOL
Best to All! Tod
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Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
No I m
not...
Where does he say "
I promise people like cr will get out of their chairs?"
You are using
quotes that are not there...
" HE EXACTLY SAID, "IF KERRY WAS ELECTED, QUADS WILL WALK
AGAIN." "
Where did he say that??
Please see my previous
post...
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:35
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
He is not
promising a cure... REALLY! JUST WHAT
WOULD YOU CALL C.R. GETTING UP OUT OF HIS CHAIR AND WALKING AGAIN? YOU
ARE REALLY MINCING WORDS HERE. HE EXACTLY SAID, "IF KERRY WAS
ELECTED, QUADS WILL WALK AGAIN." THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING THAT
SENTENCE UNLESS YOU HAVE A BENT FOR KERRY AND THE REST OF HIS
STORY.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we
will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again,"
In a message dated 10/21/2004 7:02:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, but no.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will
do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up
out of that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
"IF we do the
work in this country..."
Which means, the
research work we, as a nation, are capable of. The proper funding of
all medical research,. "IF"
We= the nation,
Do the
work..
" the work that
we will do when John Kerry is President"
A continuation of
that same thought, funding research, in this instance stem cell as CR
advocated for.
"people like
Christopher reeve will get out of that wheelchair and walk
again."
Yes..again note
"IF WE DO the work this country is capable of"
He is not
promising a cure...he is not saying if Kerry is elected quads will
walk...Words have meaning..,..how can anyone, yes anyone, not understand
this sentence? He is saying, we as a nation can find cures, but only
so long as research is allowed...
How many
illnesses have been cured, by good ole US of A research?
The general
public can identify with CR ..moreso than if he said a quadriplegic
will get out of their chairs and walk." How many AB's know what being
a quad is? yet, they can make the basic connection if CR is used as the
example. Which is what Edwards did.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the
right man for the right reason
Looks like I was right."Will" in the context he used it. Yes I
was being a bit sarcastic. I may have paraphrased, but it was
accurate.BTW it is time to start up "the Apathetic" party.We could
really get out the vote.However, there is a little problem with global
terrorism that needs to be eradicated first.I have no faith in a
man who wants to run on his military record but refuses to release
it.Bush inherited a lot of trouble.Had we not gone into Iraq, the
O.F.F. Scandle might not have been uncovered.I'm not surprised
France got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, along with
Germany, Russia, China, and the head of the UN's O.F.F.These are the
people komrade kerry wants for allies.Of course what can one expect
from the ONLY US servicman honored in the Vietnam Communist
mueseum. StuntmanSgt SAC USAF 1971-75(Yes when it comes
to Kerry it's personal) > No,> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html>
> The Comment was "> Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday,
"was a powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change
the lives of people like him.> > "If we do the work that we
can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is
president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that
wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."> > >
> WHICH, proves my point on the pertinent wording. He did not
say " If Im elected, the lame shall walk" or anything close to
it.> > Now..I can respect most anyoneand their views.
They do not have to agree with mine to be credible in any
form.> > But I will say this, I have gone face to
face, head to head many a time with Frist. And I can say, in him I see
pure evil and pure self motivation. AND fact is, he has more "power'
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
"It takes more than "doing the work".It takes long years
of research with a whole lot of hope and a eureka
moment."
I think MOST people know that is a given.
However, 'doing the work" ..that means
working at the research...one 'step' at a time, one tiny increment at a
time. No where was it even implied otherwise.
How far does anything ..yes anything ..go
without 'working' at it in some degree?
I can not see anywhere, or anyhow Kerry or
Edwards implied otherwise.
" " the work that we will do when John Kerry
is President"
Which is backing the research
possibilities. They are saying they will work for the research. As
is continued from the statement " if we do the work we are capable of doing in
this country"
Funding research...
WE...a composite of all entities combined. A
force that we as a whole ( the united states) ..can do the work.
Researchers, Drug companies, Doctors,
physicists, and even individuals in just paying their taxes.
Bush's platform restricts this research, as
well as many other medical issues (AIDS being one) from what I believe is
pixilated logic. But I digress.
Newspeak? I am again sorry, it is not newspeak...it's
English.
So the bottom line
in this all is you disagree with the one word " Will" as in " will get out
of their wheelchairs"
Ok, I
can agree, " will" may have been a misstatement. We do not
know as a true fact, 100 years or more from now, quads WILL walk.
But nor did
they know we WILL go to the moon.
But I think in the
entire statement, in context, it was a perfectly logical
wording.
The work has to be
done, if there is to be any hope, and not just in SCI.
How many
misstatements has Bush made?
To mince one word,
I find a little odd, given the context.
And, as I
said...when the entire statement, is heard and read, no where is he promising
that Quads will walk if they are elected.
Which goes back to
reaffirmation, IMO, that it is indeed, ALL about keeping in context the
pertinent wording ...on either side of the issue ..
;)
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:13
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
My problem is the last phrase.You are free to your
interpretation.It takes more than "doing the work".It takes long years
of research with a whole lot of hope and a eureka moment.I guess some
might view "Will" not as a promise. However he didn't say might, or could,
or any other word which would have been much more accurate.I'm not one
of those who needs to question the definition of "is".If the glass is half
full you still have a half a glass that is full of air.I view kerry
words empty as the air half. I refuse to learn
"newspeak".Stuntman> This is a multi-part message in MIME
format.> > > Sorry, but no. > "If we do the work
that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry
is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that
wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."> > "IF we do the work
in this country..."> > Which means, the research work we, as a
nation, are capable of. The proper funding of all medical
research,. "IF" > > We= the nation, >
> Do the work..> > " the work that we will do when John
Kerry is President"> > A continuation of that same thought,
funding research, in this instance stem cell as CR advocated for.>
> "people like Christopher reeve will get out of that wheelchair and
walk again."> > Yes..again note "IF WE DO the work this
country is capable of"> > He is not promising a cure...he is not
saying if Kerry is elected quads will walk...Words have meaning..,..how
can anyone, yes anyone, not understand this sentence? He is saying,
we as a nation can find cures, but only so long as research is
allowed...> > How many illnesses have been cured, by good ole US
of A research?> > > > The general public can
identify with CR ..moreso than if he said a quadriplegic will get
out of their chairs and walk." How many AB's know what being a quad
is? yet, they can make the basic connection if CR is used as the example.
Which is what Edwards did.> > > > >
> > > {{The best to you,}} Sherry> ' To be willing
to March into Hell for a Heavenly cause"> - Original
Message - > From: Stuntman > To:
Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:19
PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the
right reason> > > Looks like I was
right.> "Will" in the context he used it. Yes I was being a
bit sarcastic. > I may have paraphrased, but it was
accurate.> BTW it is time to start up "the Apathetic"
party.> We could really get out the
vote.> However, there is a little problem with global
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
He is not promising
a cure... REALLY! JUST WHAT WOULD YOU CALL
C.R. GETTING UP OUT OF HIS CHAIR AND WALKING AGAIN? YOU ARE REALLY MINCING
WORDS HERE. HE EXACTLY SAID, "IF KERRY WAS ELECTED, QUADS WILL WALK
AGAIN." THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING THAT SENTENCE UNLESS YOU HAVE A BENT
FOR KERRY AND THE REST OF HIS STORY.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we
will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will
get up out of that wheelchair and walk again,"
In a message dated 10/21/2004 7:02:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, but no.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of
that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
"IF we do the work
in this country..."
Which means, the
research work we, as a nation, are capable of. The proper funding of all
medical research,. "IF"
We= the nation,
Do the
work..
" the work that we
will do when John Kerry is President"
A continuation of
that same thought, funding research, in this instance stem cell as CR
advocated for.
"people like
Christopher reeve will get out of that wheelchair and walk
again."
Yes..again note "IF
WE DO the work this country is capable of"
He is not promising
a cure...he is not saying if Kerry is elected quads will walk...Words have
meaning..,..how can anyone, yes anyone, not understand this sentence? He
is saying, we as a nation can find cures, but only so long as research is
allowed...
How many illnesses
have been cured, by good ole US of A research?
The general public
can identify with CR ..moreso than if he said a quadriplegic will get
out of their chairs and walk." How many AB's know what being a quad is?
yet, they can make the basic connection if CR is used as the example. Which is
what Edwards did.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the
right man for the right reason
Looks like I was right."Will" in the context he used it. Yes I was
being a bit sarcastic. I may have paraphrased, but it was
accurate.BTW it is time to start up "the Apathetic" party.We could
really get out the vote.However, there is a little problem with global
terrorism that needs to be eradicated first.I have no faith in a man
who wants to run on his military record but refuses to release
it.Bush inherited a lot of trouble.Had we not gone into Iraq, the
O.F.F. Scandle might not have been uncovered.I'm not surprised
France got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, along with Germany,
Russia, China, and the head of the UN's O.F.F.These are the people
komrade kerry wants for allies.Of course what can one expect from the
ONLY US servicman honored in the Vietnam Communist mueseum.
StuntmanSgt SAC USAF 1971-75(Yes when it comes to Kerry it's
personal) > No,> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html>
> The Comment was "> Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was
a powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the
lives of people like him.> > "If we do the work that we can do
in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president,
people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that wheelchair and
walk again," Edwards said."> > > > WHICH, proves
my point on the pertinent wording. He did not say " If Im elected,
the lame shall walk" or anything close to it.> > Now..I can
respect most anyoneand their views. They do not have to agree with
mine to be credible in any form.> > But I will say this,
I have gone face to face, head to head many a time with Frist. And I can
say, in him I see pure evil and pure self motivation. AND fact is, he
has more "power' in our congress than Bush. I once appeared
in His office, ( well I better not go into that) But he also tried
to get me kicked out of a AMA conference in DC when I had put on the
back of my chair " Frist, Do No Harm"> > I can be a bit of a
spunky redhead ;) LOL> > > > > >
{{The best to you,}} Sherry> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"> - Original Message -
> From: Stuntman > To: Sherry
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55
PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the
right reason> > > I see you missed Edwards
shameless speach, I didn't.> He made promises no mortal
can keep.> It is one thing to say you'll support
research, it is a
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Beds
i could use a ceiling lift tony, you feeling ok? dave In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:22:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 10/21/2004 5:09:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .get a queen size electric bed!!&do you know if a queen is covered under medicaid? i thought of asking but figured only hospital beds are.diane...really not sure, i have a twin size, and got it from a quad that died...actually, i got my ceiling lift from another quad that died tooguess i'm like the grim reaper of medical equipment -tony
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
Sorry, but no.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of
that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
"IF we do the work in
this country..."
Which means, the
research work we, as a nation, are capable of. The proper funding of all
medical research,. "IF"
We= the nation,
Do the
work..
" the work that we
will do when John Kerry is President"
A continuation of
that same thought, funding research, in this instance stem cell as CR advocated
for.
"people like
Christopher reeve will get out of that wheelchair and walk
again."
Yes..again note "IF
WE DO the work this country is capable of"
He is not promising a
cure...he is not saying if Kerry is elected quads will walk...Words have
meaning..,..how can anyone, yes anyone, not understand this sentence? He
is saying, we as a nation can find cures, but only so long as research is
allowed...
This part of his
statement, is only saying, that a continuation of the same sentiment.
(thusly a comma) That only with research, are cure possible. I shan't go
into that stem search is the only hope..or the only way or the only cause...It
is an example that medical research is needed as well as the work, we as a
country can do..to even effect a change.
Flying to the Moon
was once considered impossible as well.
Had we not had
funding..it never would have happened. Back then, was it promised we
actually would be able to do so? No. (This reminds me of the CR
superbowl commercial that was pulled because people actually thought he had been
cured...I couldn't believe that mentality either)
How many illnesses
have been cured, by good ole US of A research?
The general public
can identify with CR ..moreso than if he said a quadriplegic will get out
of their chairs and walk." How many AB's know what being a quad is? yet,
they can make the basic connection if CR is used as the example. Which is what
Edwards did.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
Looks like I was right."Will" in the context he used it. Yes I was
being a bit sarcastic. I may have paraphrased, but it was accurate.BTW
it is time to start up "the Apathetic" party.We could really get out the
vote.However, there is a little problem with global terrorism that needs
to be eradicated first.I have no faith in a man who wants to run on
his military record but refuses to release it.Bush inherited a lot of
trouble.Had we not gone into Iraq, the O.F.F. Scandle might not have been
uncovered.I'm not surprised France got caught with their hand in the
cookie jar, along with Germany, Russia, China, and the head of the UN's
O.F.F.These are the people komrade kerry wants for allies.Of course
what can one expect from the ONLY US servicman honored in the Vietnam
Communist mueseum. StuntmanSgt SAC USAF 1971-75(Yes when it
comes to Kerry it's personal) > No,> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html>
> The Comment was "> Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was a
powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives
of people like him.> > "If we do the work that we can do in this
country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people
like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again,"
Edwards said."> > > > WHICH, proves my point on
the pertinent wording. He did not say " If Im elected, the lame
shall walk" or anything close to it.> > Now..I can respect most
anyoneand their views. They do not have to agree with mine to be
credible in any form.> > But I will say this, I have gone
face to face, head to head many a time with Frist. And I can say, in him I
see pure evil and pure self motivation. AND fact is, he has more "power'
in our congress than Bush. I once appeared in His office, (
well I better not go into that) But he also tried to get me kicked
out of a AMA conference in DC when I had put on the back of my chair "
Frist, Do No Harm"> > I can be a bit of a spunky redhead ;)
LOL> > > > > > {{The best to you,}}
Sherry> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a Heavenly
cause"> - Original Message - >
From: Stuntman > To: Sherry > Sent:
Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55 PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
vote for the right man for the right reason> >
> I see you missed Edwards shameless speach, I
didn't.> He made promises no mortal can
keep.> It is one thing to say you'll support research, it
is another to > promise a cure.>
Stuntman> > > This is a multi-part message in
MIME format.>
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
Sorry, but no.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of
that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
"IF we do the work in
this country..."
Which means, the
research work we, as a nation, are capable of. The proper funding of all
medical research,. "IF"
We= the nation,
Do the
work..
" the work that we
will do when John Kerry is President"
A continuation of
that same thought, funding research, in this instance stem cell as CR advocated
for.
"people like
Christopher reeve will get out of that wheelchair and walk
again."
Yes..again note "IF
WE DO the work this country is capable of"
He is not promising a
cure...he is not saying if Kerry is elected quads will walk...Words have
meaning..,..how can anyone, yes anyone, not understand this sentence? He
is saying, we as a nation can find cures, but only so long as research is
allowed...
How many illnesses
have been cured, by good ole US of A research?
The general public
can identify with CR ..moreso than if he said a quadriplegic will get out
of their chairs and walk." How many AB's know what being a quad is? yet,
they can make the basic connection if CR is used as the example. Which is what
Edwards did.
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:19
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
Looks like I was right."Will" in the context he used it. Yes I was
being a bit sarcastic. I may have paraphrased, but it was accurate.BTW
it is time to start up "the Apathetic" party.We could really get out the
vote.However, there is a little problem with global terrorism that needs
to be eradicated first.I have no faith in a man who wants to run on
his military record but refuses to release it.Bush inherited a lot of
trouble.Had we not gone into Iraq, the O.F.F. Scandle might not have been
uncovered.I'm not surprised France got caught with their hand in the
cookie jar, along with Germany, Russia, China, and the head of the UN's
O.F.F.These are the people komrade kerry wants for allies.Of course
what can one expect from the ONLY US servicman honored in the Vietnam
Communist mueseum. StuntmanSgt SAC USAF 1971-75(Yes when it
comes to Kerry it's personal) > No,> http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html>
> The Comment was "> Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was a
powerful voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives
of people like him.> > "If we do the work that we can do in this
country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people
like Christopher Reeve will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again,"
Edwards said."> > > > WHICH, proves my point on
the pertinent wording. He did not say " If Im elected, the lame
shall walk" or anything close to it.> > Now..I can respect most
anyoneand their views. They do not have to agree with mine to be
credible in any form.> > But I will say this, I have gone
face to face, head to head many a time with Frist. And I can say, in him I
see pure evil and pure self motivation. AND fact is, he has more "power'
in our congress than Bush. I once appeared in His office, (
well I better not go into that) But he also tried to get me kicked
out of a AMA conference in DC when I had put on the back of my chair "
Frist, Do No Harm"> > I can be a bit of a spunky redhead ;)
LOL> > > > > > {{The best to you,}}
Sherry> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a Heavenly
cause"> - Original Message - >
From: Stuntman > To: Sherry > Sent:
Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55 PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]
vote for the right man for the right reason> >
> I see you missed Edwards shameless speach, I
didn't.> He made promises no mortal can
keep.> It is one thing to say you'll support research, it
is another to > promise a cure.>
Stuntman> > > This is a multi-part message in
MIME format.> > > >
> > Ummm May I suggest you check some facts
there?> > > > One example..Kerry
himself did not promise or say " the lame shall >
walk"> > He promised to support stem cell
research.> > What you are seeing and doing is what a
majority of people do to my > surpirise...and
chagrin.> > > > Person A says
..."XYZ"> > It gets reported in various forms of
media..> > Some people leave out pertinent wording..such
as > > I support stem cell research so the lame shall
someday walk.> > > > I say
that..and no doubt, somone will turn it to..> > "Cripple
folks will walk if I'm elected president"> > (this as an
example)> > > > Again
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
i'm glad you clarified that sherry. i
think you just proved he said EXACTLY that. of course chris was a little
more than lame, like the rest of us. what's the big difference you see in
these two statements? dave
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that
we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get
up out of that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said.
WHICH, proves my point on the pertinent wording. He did
not say " If Im elected, the lame shall walk" or anything close to
it.
In a message dated 10/21/2004 5:54:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No,
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html
The Comment was "
Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was a powerful
voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives of people
like him.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of
that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
WHICH, proves my point on the pertinent wording. He did not say " If
Im elected, the lame shall walk" or anything close to it.
Now..I can respect most anyoneand their views. They do not have to
agree with mine to be credible in any form.
But I will say this, I have gone face to face, head to head many a
time with Frist. And I can say, in him I see pure evil and pure self
motivation. AND fact is, he has more "power' in our congress than
Bush. I once appeared in His office, ( well I better not go into
that) But he also tried to get me kicked out of a AMA conference in DC
when I had put on the back of my chair " Frist, Do No Harm"
I can be a bit of a spunky redhead ;) LOL
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the
right man for the right reason
I see you missed Edwards shameless speach, I didn't.He made
promises no mortal can keep.It is one thing to say you'll support
research, it is another to promise a cure.Stuntman> This
is a multi-part message in MIME format.> > > Ummm May I
suggest you check some facts there?> > One example..Kerry
himself did not promise or say " the lame shall walk"> He
promised to support stem cell research.> What you are seeing and
doing is what a majority of people do to my surpirise...and
chagrin.> > Person A says ..."XYZ"> It gets reported in
various forms of media..> Some people leave out pertinent
wording..such as > I support stem cell research so the lame shall
someday walk.> > I say that..and no doubt, somone will turn it
to..> "Cripple folks will walk if I'm elected president">
(this as an example)> > Again, I ask, that people simply take
their civic duty responcibly and make an informed vote..> Not
from skewed rhetoric.> :)> > > {{The best to
you,}} Sherry> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a Heavenly
cause"> - Original Message - >
From: Stuntman > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:35
PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the
right reason> > > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/19/143233.shtml>
The REAL brainwashers> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251496/posts>
Republicans Say Democrats Influenced Voters [IA Dems campaigning inside
> polling building]> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251520/posts>
> Komrade kerry will promise everything including his
soul to get elected> John Kerry's photograph hangs in
the War Protestors Hall of the War > Remnants Museum in
Ho Chi Minh City -- an indication of the value the >
Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during
> the Vietnam War.> http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/>
> Kerry & Edwards have no shame and now promise the
laim shall be healed.> Think about
it!> Do the research.> Where are
kerry's military records?> Why did he need a review to
get an honorable discharge?> He choose to run on his
military record but won't release it.> There is no ban on
stem cell research.> Bush is not bring back the
draft.> Bush is not privatizing SS.>
Kerry keeps lying.> WHY?> > --
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Re: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article
fortunately Jim, i think here on this list you are preaching to the choir. i'm sure we all have that little spark of hope in the back of our minds but i think we are all savy enough here to realize there is not going to be a magic bullit in the near future. it's great to dream and we do indeed need to keep researching everything we can to find a way to get the nerves to regenerate, but i am sure we won't see any magic in the next 10 to 20 years. by magic, i mean return to 'normal'. dave In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:19:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An Edwards Outrage By Charles Krauthammer After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used theword "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan foreverything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is noparodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerrycampaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is theplan? Vote for Kerry. This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we dothe work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do whenJohn Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going towalk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsomedisplay of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately,for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflictedis despicable. Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage? First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one ofthe great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around thecorner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did,that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians isscandalous. Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no ideawhere it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cellresearch is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative oneat that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures forparalysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The lastfad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothingcame of it. As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype --and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cordinjuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise insteadto concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) withthe hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been thesnake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I neverexpected a candidate for vice president to be one of them. Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented fromgetting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is atravesty. George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stemcell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up fromone just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council onBioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of stem cells waitingfor anybody who wants them. Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cellresearch. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells?You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to theNational Institutes of Health for the federal funding. In his Aug. 7 radio address to the nation, Kerry referred not once butfour times to the "ban" on stem cell research instituted by Bush. At thetime, Reeve was alive, so not available for posthumous exploitation. ButRonald Reagan was available, having recently died of Alzheimer's. So what does Kerry do? He begins his radio address with thedisgraceful claim that the stem cell "ban" is standing in the way of anAlzheimer's cure. This is an outright lie. The President's Council on Bioethics, onwhich I sit, had one of the world's foremost experts on Alzheimer's,Dennis Selkoe from Harvard, give us a lecture on the newest and mostpromising approaches to solving the Alzheimer's mystery. Selkoe reportedremarkable progress in using biochemicals to clear the "plaque" depositsin the brain that lead to Alzheimer's. He ended his presentation withoutthe phrase "stem cells" having passed his lips. So much for the miracle cure. Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cellresearcher at NIH, has admitted publicly that stem cells as anAlzheimer's cure are a fiction, but that "people need a fairy tale."Kerry and Edwards certainly do. They are shamelessly exploiting thisfairy tale, having no doubt been told by their pollsters that stem cellsplay well politically for them. Politicians have long promised a chicken in every pot. It is part ofthe game. It is one thing to promise
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
Looks like I was right.
"Will" in the context he used it. Yes I was being a bit sarcastic.
I may have paraphrased, but it was accurate.
BTW it is time to start up "the Apathetic" party.
We could really get out the vote.
However, there is a little problem with global terrorism that needs to
be eradicated first.
I have no faith in a man who wants to run on his military record but
refuses to release it.
Bush inherited a lot of trouble.
Had we not gone into Iraq, the O.F.F. Scandle might not have been
uncovered.
I'm not surprised France got caught with their hand in the cookie jar,
along with Germany, Russia, China, and the head of the UN's O.F.F.
These are the people komrade kerry wants for allies.
Of course what can one expect from the ONLY US servicman honored in the
Vietnam Communist mueseum.
Stuntman
Sgt SAC USAF 1971-75
(Yes when it comes to Kerry it's personal)
> No,
>
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.ht
ml
>
> The Comment was "
> Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was a powerful voice for the
need to do stem cell research and change the lives of people like him.
>
> "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we
will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve
will get up out of that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
>
>
>
> WHICH, proves my point on the pertinent wording. He did not say " If
Im elected, the lame shall walk" or anything close to it.
>
> Now..I can respect most anyoneand their views. They do not have
to agree with mine to be credible in any form.
>
> But I will say this, I have gone face to face, head to head many a
time with Frist. And I can say, in him I see pure evil and pure self
motivation. AND fact is, he has more "power' in our congress than
Bush. I once appeared in His office, ( well I better not go into
that) But he also tried to get me kicked out of a AMA conference in DC
when I had put on the back of my chair " Frist, Do No Harm"
>
> I can be a bit of a spunky redhead ;) LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> {{The best to you,}} Sherry
> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a Heavenly cause"
> - Original Message -
> From: Stuntman
> To: Sherry
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
>
>
> I see you missed Edwards shameless speach, I didn't.
> He made promises no mortal can keep.
> It is one thing to say you'll support research, it is another to
> promise a cure.
> Stuntman
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> >
> > Ummm May I suggest you check some facts there?
> >
> > One example..Kerry himself did not promise or say " the lame
shall
> walk"
> > He promised to support stem cell research.
> > What you are seeing and doing is what a majority of people do to
my
> surpirise...and chagrin.
> >
> > Person A says ..."XYZ"
> > It gets reported in various forms of media..
> > Some people leave out pertinent wording..such as
> > I support stem cell research so the lame shall someday walk.
> >
> > I say that..and no doubt, somone will turn it to..
> > "Cripple folks will walk if I'm elected president"
> > (this as an example)
> >
> > Again, I ask, that people simply take their civic duty
responcibly
> and make an informed vote..
> > Not from skewed rhetoric.
> > :)
> >
> >
> > {{The best to you,}} Sherry
> > ' To be willing to March into Hell for a Heavenly cause"
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Stuntman
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right
reason
> >
> >
> > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/19/143233.shtml
> > The REAL brainwashers
> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251496/posts
> > Republicans Say Democrats Influenced Voters [IA Dems
campaigning
> inside
> > polling building]
> > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251520/posts
> >
> > Komrade kerry will promise everything including his soul to get
> elected
> > John Kerry's photograph hangs in the War Protestors Hall of the
War
> > Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- an indication of the
value
> the
> > Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts
> during
> > the Vietnam War.
> > http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/
> >
> > Kerry & Edwards have no shame and now promise the laim shall be
> healed.
> > Think about it!
> > Do the research.
> > Where are kerry's military records?
> > Why did he need a review to get an honorable discharge?
> > He choose to run on his military record but won't release it.
> > There is no ban on stem cell research.
> > Bush is not bring back the draft.
> > Bush is not privatizing SS.
> > Kerry keeps
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
No,
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/12/edwards.stem.cell/index.html
The Comment was "
Edwards said Reeve, who died Sunday, "was a powerful
voice for the need to do stem cell research and change the lives of people like
him.
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve will get up out of
that wheelchair and walk again," Edwards said."
WHICH, proves my point on the pertinent wording. He did not say " If Im
elected, the lame shall walk" or anything close to it.
Now..I can respect most anyoneand their views. They do not have to agree
with mine to be credible in any form.
But I will say this, I have gone face to face, head to head many a time
with Frist. And I can say, in him I see pure evil and pure self motivation. AND
fact is, he has more "power' in our congress than Bush. I once
appeared in His office, ( well I better not go into that) But he also
tried to get me kicked out of a AMA conference in DC when I had put on the back
of my chair " Frist, Do No Harm"
I can be a bit of a spunky redhead ;) LOL
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
Stuntman
To: Sherry
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:55
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
I see you missed Edwards shameless speach, I didn't.He made promises
no mortal can keep.It is one thing to say you'll support research, it is
another to promise a cure.Stuntman> This is a multi-part
message in MIME format.> > > Ummm May I suggest you check
some facts there?> > One example..Kerry himself did not promise
or say " the lame shall walk"> He promised to support stem cell
research.> What you are seeing and doing is what a majority of people
do to my surpirise...and chagrin.> > Person A says
..."XYZ"> It gets reported in various forms of media..> Some
people leave out pertinent wording..such as > I support stem cell
research so the lame shall someday walk.> > I say that..and no
doubt, somone will turn it to..> "Cripple folks will walk if I'm
elected president"> (this as an example)> > Again, I ask,
that people simply take their civic duty responcibly and make an informed
vote..> Not from skewed rhetoric.> :)> > >
{{The best to you,}} Sherry> ' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"> - Original Message -
> From: Stuntman > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:35
PM> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the
right reason> > > http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/19/143233.shtml>
The REAL brainwashers> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251496/posts>
Republicans Say Democrats Influenced Voters [IA Dems campaigning inside
> polling building]> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251520/posts>
> Komrade kerry will promise everything including his soul
to get elected> John Kerry's photograph hangs in the
War Protestors Hall of the War > Remnants Museum in Ho Chi
Minh City -- an indication of the value the >
Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during
> the Vietnam War.> http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/>
> Kerry & Edwards have no shame and now promise the
laim shall be healed.> Think about
it!> Do the research.> Where are kerry's
military records?> Why did he need a review to get an
honorable discharge?> He choose to run on his military
record but won't release it.> There is no ban on stem cell
research.> Bush is not bring back the
draft.> Bush is not privatizing SS.>
Kerry keeps lying.> WHY?> > --
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[QUAD-L] Electoral College... (Sorry Sherry)
Hi All, You know... I been curious... In an election as close as this one reportedly is, what do you think will happen if "Candidate A" gets the necessary 270 electoral votes but, no matter how many recounts are allowed, it turns out (in every recount), that "Candidate B" actually won the popular vote? Do you think the system will change? Be forced to change? That people will eventually let it die and begrudgingly 'accept' Candidate A without organizing to change the system? Is anyone here from Colorado? * I'm curious about the proposition/measure on your ballot that will divide electoral votes based on numbers/percentages of votes cast for the candidate...rather than allowing a 49% -- 51% vote allow the 51% "winner" to take All 9 of the state's electoral votes. * What do you think about it applying to THIS election? * What about that the CO State Contitution says that The Legislature determines how votes are carried BUT this measure came to the ballot through the Voter Initiative Process rather than through any true Legislative Action by CO elected officials? Is it OK if I stir up a hornets' nest here? I can't participate much... but I love watchin' them suckers go at it! LOL Best to All! Tod
Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot
Pretty much, that's why I am not getting one. I think that people with repertory problems and elderly should go first. This is the first year in 5 that I am forgoing to flu shot. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: QuadPirate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked? I know these people shake a lot of hands but it seems to me they should have the to follow the same laws as the rest of. Besides that the majority of hands they're shaking are each others! They should come out and tell the truth, it's not the hand shaking it's all the ass kissing lol! Mark Hoping to get a flu shot IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here <>
Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot
Oh, Mark... This has been a banner year for you and me... we've agreed on more than we've disagreed! First, on the idea that it's something other than hand-shaking... yep... I agree! Second, is anyone else disturbed? You bet'cha! I don't shake a heck of a lot of hands on a normal day, but last night after a regular 7:30 to 3:00pm shift of teaching 149 teens with poor hygeine, I got to spend from 4:45 to 7:45pm shaking hands and talking face-to-face with their snifflely parents at a Parent-Teacher Conference after distributing less-than-stellar grades to most of them. At the end of a normal day, I'm extremely tired... just figure what that most obviously does to anyone's immune system (Strike 1). I didn't have time to eat between cleaning up after kids and prepping to meet parents (Strike 2). Then parents come in with ALL their kids from < 1 yr. to high school, all sniffling and wiping their noses while wanting to shake hands. (Strike 3) All of them told me about having to rush from work to get there (Aren't we Out already) so I know most didn't stop to eat or wash (Hey... Ump...!!) partly because even through my own stuffy nose I could smell the "work" under the deodorant and cologne (YO Buddy! They struck out and their STILL stealing bases?... where's the Managers?) Interestingly, to save time... my school decided to take teachers from four buildings and cram them into sharing room and space in one building so people can spread their "infectious happiness" about grades quicker without walking so far... (Wait!!... Is he running from 2nd to Home Plate?) so that puts us in much closer proximity to everyone (why are both teams AND the fans all in one dugout?). Not only is it My Students coming in to use my room, but students from two other teachers as well (Who the hell invited the Dodgers??!!) And then had to get ready to set up for an early scheduled class(game) with those same kids who didn't have time to do homework because their parent were dragging them through the school all night... (Oh, I get it... it's just a benefit game... not the real thing. But where's the benefit?) By the end of the night, I was ready to Yank Da'Bums outta there by their Sox! (Then I went home to my wife... way to tired to even think about trying to score. ;~) ) Today... I called the game early and went out to meet the pitcher before going home. Damn! What a series. Now... tryin to call the doc about that shot again... line's been busy for 2 days. Sure wishin' right now I'd gone into politics instead of teaching. I'm ready to trade their "High-Risk Hand-Shaking" (even ass-kissin').. . that is, only if they'd be willing to try out mine. Best! Tod -- QuadPirate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked? I know these people shake a lot of hands but it seems to me they should have the to follow the same laws as the rest of. Besides that the majority of hands they're shaking are each others! They should come out and tell the truth, it's not the hand shaking it's all the ass kissing lol! Mark Hoping to get a flu shot
Re: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article
Krauthammer has never believed a cure for SCI was possible. Chck out Dr. Young's comments on this column at sciwire.com. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.1 and OS/2 Warp 4.5 BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot
We in NJ are giving them to inmates. LOL I had to lie on the form in the local supermarket to prove I was "at risk". Of the 10 items listed, nowhere was SCI or neurological impairments listed. So, I gave myself Asthma (on the form). Wouldn't be surprised if the FLU shot police asked for it back. Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot In a message dated 10/21/2004 4:41:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked?I know these people shake a lot of hands but it seems to me they should have the to follow the same laws as the rest of.Besides that the majority of hands they're shaking are each others!They should come out and tell the truth, it's not the hand shaking it's all the ass kissing lol! MarkHoping to get a flu shotloli'm with ya Mark, i don't consider hand-shaking THAT hazardous
Re: [QUAD-L] thoughts on election
I havent missed a
vote, not a one, even for local coroner since I was 18.
And I'm an
ole fart...;)
the 2000 election I
think proved, very vote, indeed counts.
( now dont get me
started on the electoral college ;) )
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
- Original Message -
From:
andrea
murray
To: David K. Kelmer
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:20
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] thoughts on
election
David, your voice will be heard. Good
job
ww"David K. Kelmer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi WW,
I vote in every election. National, state, city, and school
bond. I have voted both by absentee ballot and at the voting
booth. I will be voting at the booth for this election.
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA
andrea murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
How many of you really vote? I have already voted from my home.
Wheelchair Warrior
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your
opinion and all others are always accepted and appreciated. You've got
to remember that most voters made up their minds 3-4 months ago and
are now going out to advocate on behalf of the person or persons
they believe are the best for the job. I'm guessing that 30% of the
voters are still undecided and will be influenced by those around
them, TV ads, newspaper print, debates, and those who are willing to
knock down doors. I can't wait until its over with so that we can
all go on with our lives In a free country.WIn a message
dated 10/14/04 12:50:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Go
Kerry.. my main issues are health care(primarily attendant care
funding) and education for my daughter.. and I believe that both
of those issues will have a higher priority with a democratic
administration. And I wouldn't be appos! ! ed to voting republican
if I believed that those priorities would receive more attention
with them. I know from experience that they won't because I live in
Fl and a subsistence level of help that was present during the
Clinton administration has been intentionally and systematically
eroded and eliminated since the republicans have been in office. my
opinion>>
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[QUAD-L] Thoughts on election
My hat off to you, Old Man ! W In a message dated 10/21/04 11:54:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hi WW, I vote in every election. National, state, city, and school bond. I have voted both by absentee ballot and at the voting booth. I will be voting at the booth for this election. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave >>
[QUAD-L] Flu Shot
Its all part of the benefit package. I got my flu shot as soon as they were available. 2 weeks later I developed a rash on my left arm, from my muscle down past my elbow almost to the wrist. Boy did it itch and needed scratching. I just passed it off as a reaction to the shot. 2-1/2 weeks later called the people who were in front of me in line and asked if they had a rash. They said no. Well it turns out to be poison ivy. Funny how it only got one side of me as I was in a crawling contest against a blind guy (I won) and he didn't get any. LOL. W In a message dated 10/21/04 3:41:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked? >>
Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right man for the right reason
Ummm May I suggest
you check some facts there?
One example..Kerry
himself did not promise or say " the lame shall walk"
He promised to
support stem cell research.
What you are seeing
and doing is what a majority of people do to my surpirise...and
chagrin.
Person A says
..."XYZ"
It gets reported in
various forms of media..
Some people leave
out pertinent wording..such as
I support stem cell
research so the lame shall someday walk.
I say that..and no
doubt, somone will turn it to..
"Cripple folks will
walk if I'm elected president"
(this as an
example)
Again, I ask, that
people simply take their civic duty responcibly and make an informed
vote..
Not from skewed
rhetoric.
:)
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:35
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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote for the right
man for the right reason
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/19/143233.shtmlThe
REAL brainwashershttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251496/postsRepublicans
Say Democrats Influenced Voters [IA Dems campaigning inside polling
building]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1251520/postsKomrade
kerry will promise everything including his soul to get electedJohn
Kerry's photograph hangs in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants
Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- an indication of the value the Vietnamese
communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam
War.http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/Kerry
& Edwards have no shame and now promise the laim shall be healed.Think
about it!Do the research.Where are kerry's military records?Why
did he need a review to get an honorable discharge?He choose to run on his
military record but won't release it.There is no ban on stem cell
research.Bush is not bring back the draft.Bush is not privatizing
SS.Kerry keeps lying.WHY?-- It's not the fall that
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Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shot
In a message dated 10/21/2004 4:41:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked? I know these people shake a lot of hands but it seems to me they should have the to follow the same laws as the rest of. Besides that the majority of hands they're shaking are each others! They should come out and tell the truth, it's not the hand shaking it's all the ass kissing lol! Mark Hoping to get a flu shot loli'm with ya Mark, i don't consider hand-shaking THAT hazardous
Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
Not you
Todd...
I did say the
thread..the entire 'arguements" from both.
It happened that I
hit reply on yours.
I am not going to
play arm chair politician here.
What good would
that do?
I do not any any
form deny any one thier choices.it burns my behind when these choices are
made on rhetoric..not facts.. This election is far more important, unlike any I
have seen..but that is my opinion I suppose.
And admittedly...I
saw this at the end of a very long day of 'political' communications. and no
sleep.
I can laugh and
joke about both sides...that doesnt bother me on bit..
ALways wear your
smile :)
ANd sorry...I didnt
read that thread as a joke at all..
And I admit...this
one is my Fav...well worth the d/l time even if your on dial
up
http://bush.carlcarter.com/
ROFL ya gotta hear this
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blkerrypictures.htm
and here is one
that will crack almost onyone up..
Click it's good to
be in DC
http://www.jibjab.com/
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:51
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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote
vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
I came back to
read my quadlist email to see this, and I must say, I am woefully
disheartened by this /these sentiments. (of the Kerry bashing in this topic)
So it is ok for someone to send bashing comments
or jokes about one candidate but not your candidate? I have seen bashing
comments and jokes about Bush on the Quad-list. If you are offended or
have to defend your candidate because of the joke I sent maybe you are
supporting the wrong candidate or maybe you think it is true and not a joke.
BTW I received the joke from a Kerry supporter with a sense of humor.
I thought this was a free country and freedom of
speech is one of our rights. Be careful who you vote for or this might be a
thing of the past. Many of our other rights we assume are protected are also
in jeopardy if the wrong candidates are elected that includes our local
candidates.
BTW
I never said whom I voted for. I have already voted for the best candidates
because of what they stand for and what they will do for my
country, state, county and city. I will not vote for a candidate
just because they are the best on a few issues.
Vote for
whomever...
But make it an
informed vote...on the things that really matter.
Subject: vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
vote
POOR JOHN KERRYHe throws away someone else's medals.He
drives someone else's SUV.He marries someone else's wife.And he
inherits someone else's money.I think we should all vote for him to
be president..
of someone else's
country.
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Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Beds
In a message dated 10/21/2004 5:09:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .get a queen size electric bed!!& do you know if a queen is covered under medicaid? i thought of asking but figured only hospital beds are. diane ...really not sure, i have a twin size, and got it from a quad that died...actually, i got my ceiling lift from another quad that died tooguess i'm like the grim reaper of medical equipment -tony
[QUAD-L] Re: Beds
In a message dated 10/20/2004 9:54:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .get a queen size electric bed!!& do you know if a queen is covered under medicaid? i thought of asking but figured only hospital beds are. diane
Re: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article
Jim, ... Statement by John O'Neill on "Nightline" While I have a tremendous amount of respect for Ted Koppel and ABC News I was appalled to learn that ABC News would go to the length of traveling to Vietnam to interview three Viet Cong communists in yet a third attempt by ABC to corroborate John Kerry's version of the events that took place on February 28th, 1969. I would only ask the American people: "Who do you trust more, three members of a communist regime that tortured and killed our American troops or a group of more than 280 highly decorated American veterans, who proudly served their country and are now responsible members of their respective communities?" The number of veterans who support John Kerry's accounts of his military service would not fill one Swift Boat. But instead of sitting down to interview some of the 280 plus members of our Swift Boat organization, ABC News chose to travel to Vietnam taking extraordinary and highly suspect steps to find someone to corroborate John Kerry's story. ABC News Nightline has now dedicated three separate programs to this one incident while ignoring John Kerry's now discredited Senate testimony that he spent Christmas in Cambodia, his receiving a purple heart after all three of the officers required to approve such an issuance rejected his application, or his constantly changing account of the circumstances surrounding his remaining medal, a bronze star. Further, one has to wonder why ABC News will not address the serious questions as to why John Kerry only received an honorable discharge through the act of then President Carter, seven years after his discharge, and had to have all of his military citations reissued, on the same day, when he became a United States Senator in 1985. And, finally, why has Nightline found it of no interest to permit any POWs to come on their program to explain why they believe John Kerry betrayed their nation, caused them to be incarcerated for an additional two years and caused them tremendous additional hardship and suffering.-- John O'Neill Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy - Original Message - From: Jim Lubin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article An Edwards Outrage By Charles Krauthammer After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used theword "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan foreverything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is noparodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerrycampaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is theplan? Vote for Kerry. This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we dothe work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do whenJohn Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going towalk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsomedisplay of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately,for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflictedis despicable. Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage? First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one ofthe great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around thecorner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did,that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians isscandalous. Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no ideawhere it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cellresearch is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative oneat that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures forparalysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The lastfad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothingcame of it. As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype --and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cordinjuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise insteadto concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) withthe hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been thesnake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I neverexpected a candidate for vice president to be one of them. Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented fromgetting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is atravesty. George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stemcell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up fromone just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council onBioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of st
[QUAD-L] Flu Shot
Just wondering if I'm the only one disturbed about how the people in the capital gets a Flu shot with no questions asked? I know these people shake a lot of hands but it seems to me they should have the to follow the same laws as the rest of. Besides that the majority of hands they're shaking are each others! They should come out and tell the truth, it's not the hand shaking it's all the ass kissing lol! Mark Hoping to get a flu shot IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article
Jim, A very good article. These guys are selling inuendo, and a promise to do a 'better' job than the current administration. Absent of any details on any of the promises (even if one is inclined to put their faith in the snake oil sales), one must rely on their past to give some indication of their ability to be honest and trustworthy. I offer the following - everyone should be informed as possible. http://kerrylied.com/otherdocs/flash.htm Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy - Original Message - From: Jim Lubin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article An Edwards Outrage By Charles Krauthammer After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used theword "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan foreverything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is noparodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerrycampaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is theplan? Vote for Kerry. This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we dothe work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do whenJohn Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going towalk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsomedisplay of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately,for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflictedis despicable. Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage? First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one ofthe great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around thecorner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did,that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians isscandalous. Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no ideawhere it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cellresearch is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative oneat that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures forparalysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The lastfad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothingcame of it. As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype --and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cordinjuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise insteadto concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) withthe hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been thesnake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I neverexpected a candidate for vice president to be one of them. Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented fromgetting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is atravesty. George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stemcell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up fromone just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council onBioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of stem cells waitingfor anybody who wants them. Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cellresearch. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells?You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to theNational Institutes of Health for the federal funding. In his Aug. 7 radio address to the nation, Kerry referred not once butfour times to the "ban" on stem cell research instituted by Bush. At thetime, Reeve was alive, so not available for posthumous exploitation. ButRonald Reagan was available, having recently died of Alzheimer's. So what does Kerry do? He begins his radio address with thedisgraceful claim that the stem cell "ban" is standing in the way of anAlzheimer's cure. This is an outright lie. The President's Council on Bioethics, onwhich I sit, had one of the world's foremost experts on Alzheimer's,Dennis Selkoe from Harvard, give us a lecture on the newest and mostpromising approaches to solving the Alzheimer's mystery. Selkoe reportedremarkable progress in using biochemicals to clear the "plaque" depositsin the brain that lead to Alzheimer's. He ended his presentation withoutthe phrase "stem cells" having passed his lips. So much for the miracle cure. Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cellresearcher at NIH, has admitted publicly that stem cells as anAlzheimer's cure are a fiction, but that "people need a fairy tale."Kerry and Edwards certainly do. They are shamelessly exploiting thisfairy tale, having no doubt been told by their pollsters that stem cellsplay well politically for them.
Re: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!
Hi Jerre, Was the full body scan a MRI? I have noticed my pain has been getting worse in the past few years, but I know most of it is because after my right leg was removed in '89 my body has started to warp. It must be that because I'm ONLY 51...still young at heart. For the shape I'm in...I'm in good shape! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Jerre Dowty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey guys! I'm looking for someone who can tell me what is wrong with me. For several months I have been having pain in my left knee and hip. It has progressively become worse to the point it is not tolerable. I am taking Hydrocodone 5mg/325 for the pain now. The doctor thought maybe it was neuropathic and gave me some Lidoderm patches to try. That didn't do anything for it. So next he took x-rays of my knee and hip from every direction imaginable. They showed nothing except poor bone density (big surprise..haha). So next Monday 10/25 for another bone density test and a full body bone scan. I have no pain when I am in bed, but when I am up in my chair it is really bad. My left side is my weak side and I tend to lean that way when I'm in my chair. I'm wondering if it could be connected to the way I sit in my chair. Has anyone else had similar pain? I am desperate for a diagnosis and treatment. I don't like taking the pain pills everyday but I just can't handle the pain, and I have a pretty high tolerance for pain. HELP!!! Jerre all some people need is a hand to hold and a heart to listen Jerre K. Dowty Lady Quad in Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [QUAD-L] In Memory
Hi Wheels, Thank you, it's good to be back. Only 900 messages to go and I'll be caught up...and I only use this Addy for 4 Groups! I am truly sorry that you've lost both a friend and client. C. Reeve was a real hero to many! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back Dave. I not only lost a friend but a client too.WIn a message dated 10/15/04 6:47:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Christopher Reeve 1952 - 2004Rodney Dangerfield 1921 - 2004With Respect,Dave Kelmer >>
[QUAD-L] FW: A washingtonpost.com article
An Edwards Outrage By Charles Krauthammer After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used the word "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan for everything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is no parodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerry campaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is the plan? Vote for Kerry. This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsome display of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately, for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflicted is despicable. Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage? First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one of the great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around the corner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did, that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians is scandalous. Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no idea where it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cell research is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative one at that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures for paralysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The last fad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothing came of it. As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype -- and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cord injuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise instead to concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) with the hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been the snake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I never expected a candidate for vice president to be one of them. Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented from getting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is a travesty. George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stem cell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up from one just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council on Bioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of stem cells waiting for anybody who wants them. Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cell research. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells? You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to the National Institutes of Health for the federal funding. In his Aug. 7 radio address to the nation, Kerry referred not once but four times to the "ban" on stem cell research instituted by Bush. At the time, Reeve was alive, so not available for posthumous exploitation. But Ronald Reagan was available, having recently died of Alzheimer's. So what does Kerry do? He begins his radio address with the disgraceful claim that the stem cell "ban" is standing in the way of an Alzheimer's cure. This is an outright lie. The President's Council on Bioethics, on which I sit, had one of the world's foremost experts on Alzheimer's, Dennis Selkoe from Harvard, give us a lecture on the newest and most promising approaches to solving the Alzheimer's mystery. Selkoe reported remarkable progress in using biochemicals to clear the "plaque" deposits in the brain that lead to Alzheimer's. He ended his presentation without the phrase "stem cells" having passed his lips. So much for the miracle cure. Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cell researcher at NIH, has admitted publicly that stem cells as an Alzheimer's cure are a fiction, but that "people need a fairy tale." Kerry and Edwards certainly do. They are shamelessly exploiting this fairy tale, having no doubt been told by their pollsters that stem cells play well politically for them. Politicians have long promised a chicken in every pot. It is part of the game. It is one thing to promise ethanol subsidies here, dairy price controls there. But to exploit the desperate hopes of desperate people with the promise of Christ-like cures is beyond the pale. There is no apologizing for Edwards's remark. It is too revealing. There is absolutely nothing the man will not say to get elected. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would you like to send this article to a friend? Go to http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/admin/emailfriend?contentId=A34 167-2004Oct14&sent=no&referrer=emailarticle Visit washingtonpost.com today for the latest in: News - http://www.washingtonpost.com/?referrer=emailarticle Politics - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/politics/?referrer=emailarticle Spor
Re: [QUAD-L] Fung Shui anyone?
Hi Bobbie, I believe living in harmony with nature will always give you 'good energy.' A good level of positive energy does help with a healthy and happy life! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Is there anybody here who use's and or believes in the power of Fung Shui? Wednesday I had a Fung Shui consultant come to my Apartment because I lost my (mojo) motivation in writing the second draft of my autobiography. They spent 1 1/2 hours here, one made MANY suggestions while the other one wrote down the suggestions. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Fung Shui, it's basically living in harmony with nature. Also finding a "good energy" flow in your home to sleep well, stay healthy, be happy and productive. It's very common sense ancient Chinese way of living a happy safe life. Fung Shui means wind and water. A friend of mine, actually my Homeopathic Doctor, wanted to met a life partner. With in one month of doing simple change's in her home, she met the love of her life. Just curious, Bobbie BTW~Donold Trump consults with Fung Shui Master's when designing building to decorating his home and office
Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
I came back to read my quadlist email to see this, and I must say, I am woefully disheartened by this /these sentiments. (of the Kerry bashing in this topic) So it is ok for someone to send bashing comments or jokes about one candidate but not your candidate? I have seen bashing comments and jokes about Bush on the Quad-list. If you are offended or have to defend your candidate because of the joke I sent maybe you are supporting the wrong candidate or maybe you think it is true and not a joke. BTW I received the joke from a Kerry supporter with a sense of humor. I thought this was a free country and freedom of speech is one of our rights. Be careful who you vote for or this might be a thing of the past. Many of our other rights we assume are protected are also in jeopardy if the wrong candidates are elected that includes our local candidates. BTW I never said whom I voted for. I have already voted for the best candidates because of what they stand for and what they will do for my country, state, county and city. I will not vote for a candidate just because they are the best on a few issues. Vote for whomever... But make it an informed vote...on the things that really matter. Subject: vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote POOR JOHN KERRYHe throws away someone else's medals.He drives someone else's SUV.He marries someone else's wife.And he inherits someone else's money.I think we should all vote for him to be president.. of someone else's country.
Re: [QUAD-L] thoughts on election
David, your voice will be heard. Good job ww"David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi WW, I vote in every election. National, state, city, and school bond. I have voted both by absentee ballot and at the voting booth. I will be voting at the booth for this election. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA andrea murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many of you really vote? I have already voted from my home. Wheelchair Warrior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your opinion and all others are always accepted and appreciated. You've got to remember that most voters made up their minds 3-4 months ago and are now going out to advocate on behalf of the person or persons they believe are the best for the job. I'm guessing that 30% of the voters are still undecided and will be influenced by those around them, TV ads, newspaper print, debates, and those who are willing to knock down doors. I can't wait until its over with so that we can all go on with our lives In a free country.WIn a message dated 10/14/04 12:50:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Go Kerry.. my main issues are health care(primarily attendant care funding) and education for my daughter.. and I believe that both of those issues will have a higher priority with a democratic administration. And I wouldn't be appos! ! ed to voting republican if I believed that those priorities would receive more attention with them. I know from experience that they won't because I live in Fl and a subsistence level of help that was present during the Clinton administration has been intentionally and systematically eroded and eliminated since the republicans have been in office. my opinion>> Do you Yahoo!?Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Do you Yahoo!?vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
Re: [QUAD-L] thoughts on election
Hi WW, I vote in every election. National, state, city, and school bond. I have voted both by absentee ballot and at the voting booth. I will be voting at the booth for this election. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA andrea murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many of you really vote? I have already voted from my home. Wheelchair Warrior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your opinion and all others are always accepted and appreciated. You've got to remember that most voters made up their minds 3-4 months ago and are now going out to advocate on behalf of the person or persons they believe are the best for the job. I'm guessing that 30% of the voters are still undecided and will be influenced by those around them, TV ads, newspaper print, debates, and those who are willing to knock down doors. I can't wait until its over with so that we can all go on with our lives In a free country.WIn a message dated 10/14/04 12:50:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< Go Kerry.. my main issues are health care(primarily attendant care funding) and education for my daughter.. and I believe that both of those issues will have a higher priority with a democratic administration. And I wouldn't be appos! ! ed to voting republican if I believed that those priorities would receive more attention with them. I know from experience that they won't because I live in Fl and a subsistence level of help that was present during the Clinton administration has been intentionally and systematically eroded and eliminated since the republicans have been in office. my opinion>> Do you Yahoo!?Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.
Re: [QUAD-L] beds
craftmatic.com is your answer. I have a full size crafitmatic with the hi/low (the bed goes up and down) and a massage. They also have optional heat. BUT, DO NOT except the first quote for the price of the bed. They came down at least $500 with me AND a free TV & pillows Bobbie
Re: [QUAD-L] To older brother's & sister's
In a message dated 19/10/2004 18:07:13 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you the oldest or the oldest brother or sister, I'm the oldest sister and ever since my accident, I feel like I've lost my role as such. I was wondering if any more of you who are the older sibling, if you feel this way also. just curious, Bobbie I'm the baby of the family, always have been and always will be! If anything my brother is tougher on my now as his gradually teaching me to look after myself emotionally and to stand up for what i believe in Love Smurf xxx
Re: [QUAD-L] National Family Caregivers Month - November!
In a message dated 19/10/2004 20:44:06 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every November is National FAMILY Caregivers month! Personally, I found out by the magazine PARAPLEGIA NEWS which I just re-subbed to after 5 yrs of "forgetting." The only mag I know of where the ads are fantastic! Where do you get the Paraplegia News from Lori? I've never heard of it before but it does sound interesting! Love Smurf xxx
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Bush plays the game of being Christian
In a message dated 19/10/2004 21:07:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Smurf, Regardless of who is elected President next month, here is an issue that needs to be examined. If, as the American Life League, Inc. believes, an egg collected from a woman's body and then combined with a man's sperm and frozen is human life, or, as others believe, that the resulting frozen embryos are simply the seed that when inserted into the woman's body grows into a human life, the issue needs to be debated. The voices now raised on all sides in the stem-cell research issue cannot ignore the useless destruction of hundreds of thousands of frozen cells each year while so much attention gets paid to some 60 cell lines. Life, or potential life, either way these cells deserve a better ending than what they're getting now. Hi CtrlAltDel, When it comes to IVF I have completely different views, I don't see that abortions are the same as IVF, completely different in fact! Personally I think that IVF is a really good idea, extremely good idea (although I do believe that the man should have some say in weather his sperm is used or not - there's been huge controversary about it over here) especially when it comes to SCIs. Although the fact that some of the cells are wasted is bad. If embryos and cells are taken then they should all be used - end of story. Letting them go to waste is the same as letting someone die. Why do some of them get wasted though? Love Smurf xxx
[QUAD-L] BIBLE -- Wrong
Nope, wrong, incorrect, hoax www.snopes.com look for "Iraq and Eagle" >>Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!) Hmmm?! b
Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now
In a message dated 20/10/2004 21:43:35 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the questions that surround the death of C. Reeve are there because none of us really know just what kind of medical treatments he was receiving or what his health problems really were These are the things the docummentury tells you about. The media painted his death as being black and white, thus leading to people wondering weather they are true are not. Alot went on in CR life in the last 3 years of his life Love Smurf xxx
Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves & his last documentury
In a message dated 21/10/2004 02:41:43 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Smurf, I didn't see the docummentury on Christopher's Reeve. How did he die? Wheelchair Warrior Are you from the UK as well Wheelchair Warrior?! It didn't mention his death, although they did point out two points which, to me made it understandable as to why he died. Allow me to explain: 1. in December CR was hospitalized due to a pressure wound, something that kept giving him problems up until his death. 2. CR had the surgery to allow his diaphram to be stimulated. Earlier this year he was getting a lot of problems with the would where the wires for the stimulator came out the skin - the wound kept opening itself up then closing, then re opening etc. The wound also got infected which they said ran the risk of causing damage to the wires. My theory being, every day he practised breathing using the stimulator. What if, and this really is a what if, while practising using the stimulator there were complications due to the wires and the infection which caused the problems he had? Also, we don't know if when the would got infected weather it caused any problems to his heart or anything hich weakened it. They are only small suggestions, but they are the small things that the media forgot to mention when reporting his death. Love Smurf xxx
Re: [QUAD-L] China!
In a message dated 21/10/2004 13:44:47 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everybody, Does anybody have information about China doing stem cell? Silas Shelburne Quad 2 years Nope sorry, although the documentury about CR it should that Israel is the best place for stem cell research. They should people with the same injury as CR WALKING! Love Smurf xxx
Re: [QUAD-L] CR
In a message dated 21/10/2004 14:04:00 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a letter from CR wife, Dana posted at www.sciwire.com. The nurses and dr knew him. Where abouts on the can we find it please? I couldn't find it! Love Smurf xxx
[QUAD-L] Going Upriver
Hello, The movie Going Upriver is being distributed online, for free. If any of you would like to see it, I can provide you with a copy that will play on Quicktime, on your computer only. If you want to know more about this movie, or want to download it yourself visit this website: http://www.thekerrymovie.com/ PS: Closed captioning is only available if you purchase the DVD for $15 Peace out truth and justice, River
[QUAD-L] The "L" Word, The "N" Word, The "D" Word, The "R" Word, The "C" Word
This year's election has brought out the very worst in America's base freedom. Its seems for years we have fought to rid ourselves of labels and names and be respected for what we honestly believe. But that may not be good enough for some people. They continue to label us with those terms during the elections... to make themselves look or appear to look better. For some, its a political honor, for others its a dishonor. And it never seems to stop. Let's all hope that these labels are placed back into the "nasty closet" after the election and that we go back to the old fashion labels that we've learned to hate. Cripple Handicap Disabled Dumb Useless Worthless Crazy Stupid When are we ever going to learn. W In a message dated 10/21/04 8:00:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << "And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get you. That's called 'karma.' " - Bill O'Reilly, "The O'Reilly Factor for Kids" >>
Re: [QUAD-L] China!
go to www.sciwire.com - Original Message - From: Silas Shelburne To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:02 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] China! Does anybody have information about stem cell in China? Thanks Silas Shelburne Quad 2 years
[QUAD-L] CR
There's a letter from CR wife, Dana posted at www.sciwire.com. The nurses and dr knew him. Stop supposing crap about his death. - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Jim Lubin ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now Hi Jim, I think the questions that surround the death of C. Reeve are there because none of us really know just what kind of medical treatments he was receiving or what his health problems really were. We may never know, so it is up to each of us to live each day of our lives to their fullest regardless of our health problems! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Jim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 08:25 AM 10/11/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, if I would have unlimited funds, I may have started therapy 3-4 hours per day, but look what he missed out on. Even though he didn't have the funding problems most of us face, it seems to me that he wasn't receiving very good care with all the health problems he had. Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Bothell, WA, USA http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Transverse Myelitis Association: http://www.myelitis.org/HowToHelp
[QUAD-L] o'reilly factor and L word
"And guys, if you exploit a girl, it will come back to get
you. That's called 'karma.' "
- Bill O'Reilly, "The O'Reilly Factor for Kids"
IN the
annals of election year 2004, Oct. 13 will be remembered as
the day it rained lesbians in red America. That was when we
learned that Andrea Mackris, an associate producer on "The
O'Reilly Factor," had filed her sexual harassment law suit,
charging that her boss had an obsessive interest in
vibrators, phone sex and, most persistently, erotic
scenarios involving pairs of women. That night brought the
final presidential debate, in which John Kerry's
description of Mary Cheney as a lesbian so riled the
Bush-Cheney campaign, not to mention the easily aghast
Washington press corps, you'd have thought the vice
president's daughter was accused of enlisting in a
threesome with Bill O'Reilly.
What's followed ever since is an orgy of schadenfreude and
hypocrisy almost entertaining enough to take your mind off
Iraq (as the Bush-Cheney campaign hopes it will). It's the
kind of three-ring circus that makes me love this country.
Only in America could Mr. O'Reilly appear on "Live With
Regis and Kelly" to plug his new moralistic children's
advice book (sample dictum: "Healthy sex is a combination
of sensible behavior and sincere affection") just as old
and young alike were going online to search
thesmokinggun.com for the lewd monologues attributed to him
in Ms. Mackris's 22-page complaint. Everyone is now so busy
matching Mr. O'Reilly's alleged after-hours oratory - none
of which he or his lawyer immediately denied - with his
past condemnations of Janet Jackson, Ludacris, wet T-shirt
contests, Joycelyn Elders and the televised Madonna-Britney
smooch that the findings could fill another Starr report.
My own favorite example, hands down, is Mr. O'Reilly's
reverie about hooking up with "hot" Italian women during a
visit to the Vatican while his pregnant wife was marooned
at home in Plandome, Long Island.
The bad news for Fox is not only that its most bankable
cable star could end up in the third-tier broadcasting
oblivion of William Bennett but also that Fox News, handed
the kind of story it lives for, could not (or, more
precisely, would not) turn it into a mediathon, complete
with legal analysis from Greta, Gloria Allred and Jeanine
Pirro. So the network made do instead with the parallel
soap opera of Mary Cheney. The Focus on the Family politico
James Dobson quickly set the tone on "Hannity & Colmes" by
accusing Mr. Kerry of "outing" the vice president's
daughter - a charge duly echoed by others on the right,
led, inevitably, by The Wall Street Journal editorial page.
To try to prop up its fictional headline "Outing Mary
Cheney," The Journal argued that "Mr. and Mrs. Cheney have
not kept their daughter's lesbianism a secret but neither
have they shouted it to the sky." Huh? Though Dick Cheney
doesn't shout anything, he described his daughter as gay on
camera at an Iowa campaign appearance this summer. But
whatever Mr. and Mrs. Cheney may have to say about it, The
Journal never entertained the thought that Mary Cheney
herself has a voice in this matter. She has been openly gay
for years. Before the 2000 campaign, she held a job that
literally announced her homosexuality: gay and lesbian
liaison for Coors, a public marketing assignment that even
required her to travel the country with the winner of the
1999 International Mr. Leather competition. She later
joined the Republican Unity Coalition, a gay-rights
advocacy group formed as an alternative to the similarly
inclined Log Cabin Republicans.
From all the outcry over Mr. Kerry's invocation of Ms.
Cheney, with the attendant rhetoric about the evil of
exploiting a candidate's "child" in a campaign, you might
never guess that the child in question is not Chelsea
Clinton at age 12 but a 35-year-old woman (two years older
than Andrea Mackris). Or that she lives openly with her
partner, Heather Poe, whom she brought onstage after the
vice presidential debate. Or that she is the paid director
of vice presidential operations for the Bush campaign, and
that her mother is the author of a notorious potboiler
("Sisters," 1981) that drools over the prospect of lesbian
coupling with O'Reilly-like glee. (For choice excerpts from
Mrs. Cheney's fiction, go to
whitehouse.org/administration/sisters.asp ).
So you have to wonder what motivated the Bush-Cheney
brigade to go ballistic over Mr. Kerry's "outing" of Mary
Cheney after it had ignored not just John Edwards's
previous "outing" but also the earlier "outings" by Bush
campaign allies like the Concerned Women for America and
the Republican senatorial candidate Alan Keyes. Unlike the
Democrats, who spoke respectfully of gay sexual
orientation, these right-wing activists trashed the vice
president's daughter for sowing anti-family values. But as
Andrew Sullivan has pointed out, even when Mr. Keyes
attacked Mary Cheney in August for practicing "selfish
hedonism," the same Mrs. Cheney, who, "speaking as
Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote Kerry
On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:25 PM, River Wolfe wrote: Go Sam Kerry in a landslide ;-) I know because I'm doing phonework and that's my unscientific poll;-) River On Oct 20, 2004, at 6:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DADDY'S BOY GEORGE BUSH Evaded duty in Vietnam. He ran several of his fathers companies to the ground. Been busted for Drinking and driving.. partying alot. Daddy is into OIL and subsequently are long time partners with the Saudi's where most of the hijackers came from. NO W\EAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IRAN AND N.KOREA ARE THE ONES WITH NUKES.Iran practiced a missile today. STEM CELL RESEARCH Medicare costs rising along with prescriptions ETC. Bush put us into a war that no matter what even though it's a mistake it will take 5-10yrs to get of. All for the Bush family business OIL. This country is screwed for years to come. Sam
[QUAD-L] China!
Hello everybody, Does anybody have information about China doing stem cell? Silas Shelburne Quad 2 years
Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
I came back to read
my quadlist email to see this, and I must say, I am woefully disheartened by
this /these sentiments. (of the Kerry bashing in this topic)
I am a
registered republican, who will not...vote for Bush.
I did however
vote for him last time, much to my chagrin.
Since then, I
have traveled to Dc, spoken publicly to congress many a time, am a matter
of record of the congressional library, and indeed, have met both
candidates.
What
rhetoric you may see in ads/ TV needs to be balanced with thought. Facts, not
pablum.
Vote for
whomever...
But make it an
informed vote...on the things that really matter.
(ohhh I wanna
blast, but do not see this as the forum to do so )
;)
{{The best to you,}} Sherry' To be willing to March into Hell for a
Heavenly cause"
OddQuads Chatroom http://pjj.cc/oddquads/
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POOR JOHN KERRYHe throws away someone else's medals.He drives
someone else's SUV.He marries someone else's wife.And he inherits
someone else's money.I think we should all vote for him to be
president..
of someone else's
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Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote Kerry
Couldn't have said it better Sam, even better he's over there finishing what his Dad started. Had his Dad finished what he started, it would have saved a lot of money. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote Kerry DADDY'S BOY GEORGE BUSH Evaded duty in Vietnam. He ran several of his fathers companies to the ground. Been busted for Drinking and driving.. partying alot. Daddy is into OIL and subsequently are long time partners with the Saudi's where most of the hijackers came from. NO W\EAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IRAN AND N.KOREA ARE THE ONES WITH NUKES.Iran practiced a missile today. STEM CELL RESEARCH Medicare costs rising along with prescriptions ETC. Bush put us into a war that no matter what even though it's a mistake it will take 5-10yrs to get of. All for the Bush family business OIL. This country is screwed for years to come. Sam
Re: [QUAD-L] beds
Those of you that have these nice beds, how do you afford them? I talked to voc rehab and they aren't able to help because I already have a bed. It's a twin hospital bed and when I get dressed, my legs like to flop off of the sides. I'm so ready for a big girl bed. Insurance won't buy a double either and truthfully I want to do away with the hospital bed all together. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] beds "hospital" beds come in bigger sizes then twin. I got my mattress from www.abed.com..It's the best mattress I've had..my bad shoulder doesn't hurt while in bed. If it's in pain while I'm up , which it is but I get my new chair tomorrow, anyways once I lay down the pain goes away.and they sell beds.too. Sam
[QUAD-L] The Bible and Iraq
You have to read this --- ALL OF IT, the end is the best part. IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW 1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilisation! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq. 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac's wife Rebekah was from Nahor, which is in Iraq. 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10. Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq. (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq. 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means 'between the two rivers,' more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq means 'country with deep roots.' Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated with it than Iraq. And also ... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle, Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages. The following verse is from the Koran, the Islamic Bible: Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!) Hmmm?! Scanned by ICL's anti-virus solution at http://www.eject.co.za This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htmScanned by ICL's anti-virus solution at http://www.eject.co.za
