Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Stacy Harim]

Those of you that don't go every day, do you still take stool softners 
every day?
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Corie Jones 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:27 
AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel 
  Program
  
  I don't have any problems with my bowel routine, but I go every 
  day.  I take 4 fiber capsules a day and 2 stool softeners and try to eat 
  veggies and fruits daily, plus lots of water.  I use the magic bullet 
  also and get in my commode/shower chair about five minutes after I have the 
  suppository inserted.  Then I start going about 15 minutes later.  
  I'm usually all done going it 20-30 minutes.  After my shower, I get back 
  into bed and have a digital just to make sure the bullet got everything 
  out.  Most of the time it does.  So my advice, would be to try 
  taking more fiber and try going every day and don't do the digital stim in the 
  commode chair because of the pressure from sitting.  Wait until you get 
  into bed and go on your side after 45 minutes or so on the commode.  That 
  should save your rectum from a getting so "ripped" up.Good luck!Corie, 
  C4-5, incomplete, 12 1/2 yrs. post
  Steve 
Wickwar wrote:

  
  

  O.K. Guys,
   
  This is my first real post. My bowel program 
  used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had 
  to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours 
  now! My procedure is as follows:
   
  (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner 
  morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
   
  1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
  min.
  2. Hot Water to drink
  3. transfer to shower chair over 
  commode
  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done 
  (sometimes 3 hours)
  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
  up!
   
  What can I do to speed up process? Changes I 
  can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
  tremendously
   
  Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Corie Jones]

I have light-touch sensation from my chest down (injury level down), so 
basically feel everything, and like others have posted, have the pins and 
needles from my abdomen down to my legs and feet.  I also have the ice cold 
burning pain in my abdomen and back and the hot burning in my butt and legs. 
I can deal with the pins and needles, it's the constant burning that drives 
me crazy.  And especially the cold burning in the gut and back.  I also have 
a spot on the inside of my left butt bone, which I'm pretty sure is a 
pressure spot even though it's never red and has never turned into a sore, 
but the area on the bone is hypersensitive and burns, aches, has needles, 
and sometimes feels like I'm sitting on a rock there.  Don't know what to do 
about that spot and think it is just part of the nerve pain, but it is very 
irritating and often painful.


Corie, C4-5, incomplete, 12 1/2 yrs.

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'fireballsonic'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please



My arms, hands, legs, feet and rear end have strong pins and needles
sensation 24/7.  It is particularly strong in my left hand and foot.  It
also feels as though my limbs and and rear end are immersed in ice cold
water.  I have location sensation on most of the left side of my body,
almost none on the right side.  I have chronic pain in my lower left rib
cage that feels like broken ribs.

Steve - C4, 18 years


-Original Message-
From: fireballsonic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:18 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

hello all,
since some time i'm member of this list but i never post.
it's one member of this list who gave me the address to know
more about quad's life. i have a question and i hope you will
answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the
parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special
feelings like tinglings or ...
thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Corie Jones]

I don't have any problems with my bowel routine, but I go every day.  
I take 4 fiber capsules a day and 2 stool softeners and try to eat veggies and 
fruits daily, plus lots of water.  I use the magic bullet also and get in 
my commode/shower chair about five minutes after I have the suppository 
inserted.  Then I start going about 15 minutes later.  I'm usually all 
done going it 20-30 minutes.  After my shower, I get back into bed and have 
a digital just to make sure the bullet got everything out.  Most of the 
time it does.  So my advice, would be to try taking more fiber and try 
going every day and don't do the digital stim in the commode chair because of 
the pressure from sitting.  Wait until you get into bed and go on your side 
after 45 minutes or so on the commode.  That should save your rectum from a 
getting so "ripped" up.Good luck!Corie, C4-5, incomplete, 12 1/2 
yrs. post
Steve 
  Wickwar wrote:
  



O.K. Guys,
 
This is my first real post. My bowel program 
used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had 
to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! 
My procedure is as follows:
 
(Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner 
morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
 
1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
min.
2. Hot Water to drink
3. transfer to shower chair over 
commode
4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done 
(sometimes 3 hours)
5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
up!
 
What can I do to speed up process? Changes I 
can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
tremendously
 
Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Stacy Harim]

I had that tube inserted to my abdomen and flushed water through but the 
tube came out.  I plan on getting it again when I go get my bladder surgery 
again.  I have to get this flap taken care of first then that.  My 
bowel program takes forever without it.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim 
  Syfert 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:15 
PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel 
  Program
  
  Things picked up for me when I started downing a tbls of generic 
  metamucil at night. 
   
  Tim
  http://thequadlink.com 
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


I'm with you on this part..."This is 
probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a 
chair, "  I use a quart or two of water in a fountain about 
every 4 or 5 days.  I xfr to the jon, insert tube, fill the attached 
legbag and hang it on a hook.  Works in about 5 minutes and is complete 
in about 20.  I've had a problem with this (dismounting b/4 all water 
was expelled) only about twice in the past 8 years.  Everything used to 
go by gravity alone before that but I never knew when the urge would 
hit.  I attempted to go every morning but still sometimes got caught 
off guard out somewhere where you never know what accommodations you'll have 
to deal with - and I work better at this nekked in my own pottyroom on my 
own time.
Dave    www.daveoconnell.com   C3, 
inc, 1967
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2006 3:38:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello and welcome! 
  
  If, as you say "she's tearing me up"  then that could be part of 
  the problem.  Perhaps the stool isn't coming down because you have 
  bleeding tissue inside your rectum.  For me the less stim the better, 
  but I'm also able to bear down by breathing hard too.
  
  This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect 
  of life in a chair, at least it is for me.
  
  Peace,
  
  River 
  
  

  
  
O.K. Guys,
 
This is my first real post. My bowel 
program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've 
since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts 
up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:
 
(Metamucil every morning/night, stool 
softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
 
1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 
10 min.2. Hot Water to 
drink
3. transfer to shower chair over 
commode
4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till 
done (sometimes 3 hours)
5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
up!
 
What can I do to speed up process? 
Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
tremendously
 
Steve
  
   =

 
  
  
  Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Tim Syfert]

I have same sensations as Mark.     Tim C5  http://thequadlink.com   QuadPirate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm a C5/6 and have the freezing pain like ice water for blood or arms are on fire like laying them on a black truck in the sun. I get the needles and tingling also.  Sounds like we all this in common.     Mark      ---Original Message---   From: Silas  Date: 04/09/06 18:19:55  To: quad-List@eskimo.com  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please              > Hello,  > Im a C3-C4 complete, I have constant pain in my arms they eather feel like  > their laying in ice or fire.  Not to mention the constant numb and  > tingleing, down further my butt feels like im setting on a rock.  My legs  > tingleing with a dead acke, and my feet burn and tingle constantly.  Silas  > - Original Message - 
 > From: "fireballsonic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  > To:   > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:17 AM  > Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please  >  >  >> hello all,  >> since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member  >> of this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i  >> have a question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings  >> or sensations in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ?  >> special feelings like tinglings or ...  >> thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil  >>  >   
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Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 4/9/2006 7:16:12 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Things picked up for me when I started downing a tbls of generic 
  metamucil at night. 
   

A glass of "Go-Lite" will also get your motor running, and running.. 
and running.
W

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Tim Syfert]

Things picked up for me when I started downing a tbls of generic metamucil at night.      Tim  http://thequadlink.com      [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm with you on this part..."This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a chair, "  I use a quart or two of water in a fountain about every 4 or 5 days.  I xfr to the jon, insert tube, fill the attached legbag and hang it on a hook.  Works in about 5 minutes and is complete in about 20.  I've had a problem with this (dismounting b/4 all water was expelled) only about
 twice in the past 8 years.  Everything used to go by gravity alone before that but I never knew when the urge would hit.  I attempted to go every morning but still sometimes got caught off guard out somewhere where you never know what accommodations you'll have to deal with - and I work better at this nekked in my own pottyroom on my own time.  Dave    www.daveoconnell.com   C3, inc, 1967              In a message dated 4/9/2006 3:38:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Hello and welcome! If, as you say "she's tearing me up"  then that could be part of the
 problem.  Perhaps the stool isn't coming down because you have bleeding tissue inside your rectum.  For me the less stim the better, but I'm also able to bear down by breathing hard too.This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a chair, at least it is for me.Peace,River O.K. Guys,     This is
 my first real post. My bowel program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:     (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program     1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 min.2. Hot Water to drink  3. transfer to shower chair over commode  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done (sometimes 3 hours)  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me up!     What can I do to speed
 up process? Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously     Steve = 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[QuadPirate]

I'm a C5/6 and have the freezing pain like ice water for blood or arms are on fire like laying them on a black truck in the sun. I get the needles and tingling also.
Sounds like we all this in common.
 
Mark 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Silas
Date: 04/09/06 18:19:55
To: quad-List@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
 
 
 
 
> Hello,
> Im a C3-C4 complete, I have constant pain in my arms they eather feel like
> their laying in ice or fire.  Not to mention the constant numb and
> tingleing, down further my butt feels like im setting on a rock.  My legs
> tingleing with a dead acke, and my feet burn and tingle constantly.  Silas
> - Original Message -
> From: "fireballsonic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:17 AM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
>
>
>> hello all,
>> since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member
>> of this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i
>> have a question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings
>> or sensations in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ?
>> special feelings like tinglings or ...
>> thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil
>>
>
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Silas]

Hello,
Im a C3-C4 complete, I have constant pain in my arms they eather feel like 
their laying in ice or fire.  Not to mention the constant numb and 
tingleing, down further my butt feels like im setting on a rock.  My legs 
tingleing with a dead acke, and my feet burn and tingle constantly.  Silas
- Original Message - 
From: "fireballsonic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:17 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please



hello all,
since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member 
of this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i 
have a question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings 
or sensations in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? 
special feelings like tinglings or ...

thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil

[QUAD-L] DAN-Lower ab pain

[Lori Michaelson]

My lower ab pain began about 6 yrs ago.  IT'S HORRID WHEN THERE.
 
Lori
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Danny Hearn
Date: 04/09/06 15:31:35
To: Eric Olson; fireballsonic
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
   Lower abdomen pain that drives a person crazy. Pressure that feels like butt legs and feet are going to explode like an over-inflated innertube.Tingling and feeling like needles that can either feel like ice OR severe burning from nerve pains. Well that explains most of mine. ( Dan )  c-6    8.8 years postEric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Phil,I have no feeling below my injury. You could cut me with a knife and I wouldn't feel it. I do have special feelings as you call them. I have a horrible feeling of cold mostly in my arms. Like they're soaking in ice water. When it's bad, the cold feeling spreads to my back. It's nerve pain. Ericfireballsonic wrote:>hello all,>since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member of this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i have a question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special feelings like tinglings or ...>thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil>> >
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Oconnelldb]

I'm with you on this part..."This is probably 
the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a chair, 
"  I use a quart or two of water in a fountain about every 4 or 5 
days.  I xfr to the jon, insert tube, fill the attached legbag and hang it 
on a hook.  Works in about 5 minutes and is complete in about 20.  
I've had a problem with this (dismounting b/4 all water was expelled) only about 
twice in the past 8 years.  Everything used to go by gravity alone before 
that but I never knew when the urge would hit.  I attempted to go every 
morning but still sometimes got caught off guard out somewhere where you never 
know what accommodations you'll have to deal with - and I work better at this 
nekked in my own pottyroom on my own time.
Dave    www.daveoconnell.com   C3, inc, 
1967
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2006 3:38:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello 
  and welcome! 
  
  If, as you say "she's tearing me up"  then that could be part of the 
  problem.  Perhaps the stool isn't coming down because you have bleeding 
  tissue inside your rectum.  For me the less stim the better, but I'm also 
  able to bear down by breathing hard too.
  
  This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of 
  life in a chair, at least it is for me.
  
  Peace,
  
  River 
  
  

  
  
O.K. Guys,
 
This is my first real post. My bowel 
program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since 
then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to 
three hours now! My procedure is as follows:
 
(Metamucil every morning/night, stool 
softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
 
1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
min.2. Hot Water to drink
3. transfer to shower chair over 
commode
4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till 
done (sometimes 3 hours)
5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
up!
 
What can I do to speed up process? Changes 
I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
tremendously
 
Steve
  
   =

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[River Wolfe]

Hello and welcome!If, as you say "she's tearing me up"  then that could be part of the problem.  Perhaps the stool isn't coming down because you have bleeding tissue inside your rectum.  For me the less stim the better, but I'm also able to bear down by breathing hard too.This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a chair, at least it is for me.Peace,RiverO.K. Guys,     This is my first real post. My bowel program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:     (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program     1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 min.2. Hot Water to drink  3. transfer to shower chair over commode  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done (sometimes 3 hours)  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me up!     What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously     Steve 

Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Danny Hearn]

  Lower abdomen pain that drives a person crazy. Pressure that feels like butt legs and feet are going to explode like an over-inflated innertube.Tingling and feeling like needles that can either feel like ice OR severe burning from nerve pains. Well that explains most of mine. ( Dan )  c-6    8.8 years postEric Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Phil,I have no feeling below my injury. You could cut me with a knife and I wouldn't feel it. I do have special feelings as you call them.
 I have a horrible feeling of cold mostly in my arms. Like they're soaking in ice water. When it's bad, the cold feeling spreads to my back. It's nerve pain. Ericfireballsonic wrote:>hello all,>since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member of this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i have a question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special feelings like tinglings or ...>thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil>> >

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Lori Michaelson]

 
My routine is the same as Eric's.  Except that idea that 30 minutes rather than 45 minutes.  I go through periods here and there whereby I just don't have to go.  But at least I gave it the good old try.  And, recently, I was having more trouble with the stool coming all the way down.  It has never helped before but I decided to try to eat some raisin bran in the days prior to my routine.  It has actually helped this time!
 
Lori
---Original Message---
 

From: Eric Olson
Date: 04/09/06 14:13:16
To: Steve Wickwar
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program
 Steve,The only thing you might want to try is to not start dig stim so soon.  I let the bullet work for at least 45 minutes before dig stim.  The bullet has usually done its magic by then.  Then I dig a few times just to make sure I'm done.  Eric 

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Eric Olson]

Steve,

The only thing you might want to try is to not start dig stim so soon. 
I let the bullet work for at least 45 minutes before dig stim.  The
bullet has usually done its magic by then.  Then I dig a few times just
to make sure I'm done.  

Eric 

Steve Wickwar wrote:

  
  
  
  O.K. Guys,
   
  This is my first real post. My bowel
program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've
since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to
three hours now! My procedure is as follows:
   
  (Metamucil every morning/night,
stool softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
   
  1. Magic Bullet in bed and
stretch/wait 10 min.
  2. Hot Water to drink
  3. transfer to shower chair over
commode
  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min
till done (sometimes 3 hours)
  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin
me up!
   
  What can I do to speed up process?
Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help
tremendously
   
  Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Eric Olson]

Phil,

I have no feeling below my injury.  You could cut me with a knife and I 
wouldn't feel it.  I do have special feelings as you call them.  I have 
a horrible feeling of cold mostly in my arms.  Like they're soaking in 
ice water.  When it's bad, the cold feeling spreads to my back.  It's 
nerve pain. 


Eric

fireballsonic wrote:


hello all,
since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member of this 
list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i have a question and i 
hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the parts of 
your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special feelings like tinglings or ...
thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[~LittleQuad~]

Holy crap! sorry about the pun but maybe too many stimulants?? It could very well be the things you are eating that make it harder to digest  I said BP are odd 1st topic Wheelchair! hahaSteve Wickwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  O.K. Guys,     This is my first real post. My bowel program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:     (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening
 before program     1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 min.  2. Hot Water to drink  3. transfer to shower chair over commode  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done (sometimes 3 hours)  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me up!     What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously     Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Danny Hearn]

Wow, Digital stem EVERY 5 MInutes --- we only digital stem once or twice near end of bowel routine as were taught by sci nurses.   Dan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hiya Steve.  Who's said that bowel management wasn't a good intro question, lol?        Bowel Programs are most unique to an individual.  Training take time and patience.  Making changes will also take time and patience.  Maybe you body is changing or resisting the efforts of your care giver.  Your diet also plays an important role in what happens  in the end. The size of your
 body and variations will also affect the results of any program.  Maybe you need a complete washout/evacuation and start from the beginning or better training of the person doing the digi-stim.  W                 In a message dated 4/9/2006 10:34:05 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:O.K. Guys,     This is my first real post. My bowel program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:     (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program     1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 min.  2. Hot Water to drink  3. transfer to shower chair over commode  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done (sometimes 3 hours)  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me up!     What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously     Steve 
    

FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Comfort Direct

[William Willis]

It is a good mattress and I have been satisfiedwith it. I have it on a 
regular bed though. I see no reason that it wouldn't work on a hospital bed. 
Mine came out-of-pocket.




From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'QuadPirate'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Comfort Direct
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:26:24 -0400

Those of you who are using this Comfort Direct mattress, does it work with 
a

standard hospital bed as far as raising and lowering the head of the bed?
Were you able to get insurance or Medicare/Medicaid to pay for it?  Would
you recommend the mattress if they had not improperly used your 
testimonial?


Steve

FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[William Willis]

I have those same sensations, mostly in my feet. I have a great deal of 
lower abdominal pain as well. I have more feeling on my right side. 
Sometimes my right buttock feels like I am sitting on a tac. Hurts like 
hell.




From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'fireballsonic'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:54:01 -0400

My arms, hands, legs, feet and rear end have strong pins and needles
sensation 24/7.  It is particularly strong in my left hand and foot.  It
also feels as though my limbs and and rear end are immersed in ice cold
water.  I have location sensation on most of the left side of my body,
almost none on the right side.  I have chronic pain in my lower left rib
cage that feels like broken ribs.

Steve - C4, 18 years

> -Original Message-
> From: fireballsonic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:18 AM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
>
> hello all,
> since some time i'm member of this list but i never post.
> it's one member of this list who gave me the address to know
> more about quad's life. i have a question and i hope you will
> answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the
> parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special
> feelings like tinglings or ...
> thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil
>

RE: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Mr LESTER SMITH]

My bowel program use to be very similar to
that but I added a few changes to my diet (high fiber cereal in the morning and
salads at dinner) and now my program is:

 

 


 Magic
 Bullet
 wait
 45 minutes
 dig-stem
 every ten minutes
 done
 in a hour or so (usually I do all the work the first half an hour)


 

Lester 

C4-C5 Quad 17 years post









From: Steve Wickwar
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:33
AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Never Ending
Bowel Program



 



O.K. Guys,





 





This is my first real post. My bowel program used to take
about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had to change
attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My procedure is as
follows:





 





(Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner morning/night,
4 senekot evening before program





 





1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 min.





2. Hot Water to drink





3. transfer to shower chair over commode





4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done (sometimes 3
hours)





5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me up!





 





What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can make?
Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously





 





Steve

RE: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[Steve Oldaker]

My arms, hands, legs, feet and rear end have strong pins and needles
sensation 24/7.  It is particularly strong in my left hand and foot.  It
also feels as though my limbs and and rear end are immersed in ice cold
water.  I have location sensation on most of the left side of my body,
almost none on the right side.  I have chronic pain in my lower left rib
cage that feels like broken ribs.

Steve - C4, 18 years 

> -Original Message-
> From: fireballsonic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:18 AM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Your feelings please
> 
> hello all,
> since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. 
> it's one member of this list who gave me the address to know 
> more about quad's life. i have a question and i hope you will 
> answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations in the 
> parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special 
> feelings like tinglings or ...
> thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil
> 

[QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[wheelchair]

 
Hiya Steve.  Who's said that bowel management wasn't a good intro 
question, lol?
 
 
Bowel Programs are most unique to an individual.  Training take time 
and patience.  Making changes will also take time and patience.  
Maybe you body is changing or resisting the efforts of your care giver.  
Your diet also plays an important role in what happens  in the end. The size 
of your body and variations will also affect the results of any program.
Maybe you need a complete washout/evacuation and start from the beginning 
or better training of the person doing the digi-stim.
W
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2006 10:34:05 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  O.K. Guys,
   
  This is my first real post. My bowel program used 
  to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had 
  to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My 
  procedure is as follows:
   
  (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner 
  morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
   
  1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
  min.
  2. Hot Water to drink
  3. transfer to shower chair over 
  commode
  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done 
  (sometimes 3 hours)
  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
  up!
   
  What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can 
  make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously
   
  Steve

 

[QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Steve Wickwar]

O.K. Guys,
 
This is my first real post. My bowel program used 
to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had 
to change attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours now! My 
procedure is as follows:
 
(Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner 
morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
 
1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
min.
2. Hot Water to drink
3. transfer to shower chair over 
commode
4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done 
(sometimes 3 hours)
5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
up!
 
What can I do to speed up process? Changes I can 
make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help tremendously
 
Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] SSDI

[DAANOO]

Greg,Good for you.  Every little bit helps, that is for 
sure.Dana[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
you 
  bet it helps! i'm glad for you!!Greg 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  




I just got a letter from SS 
saying I no longer have to pay the $72(?) for Medicare. They usually take it 
out of my Disability check, but now I don’t have to pay it. They also are 
sending me $265 for back money they took out. Cool. My insurance called me 
and asked me my income. Because my only income is my Disability, they said I 
qualified for that Medicare program. They took care of everything for me. 
They only counted income, not assets. $72 is not a lot, but it helps. 

Greg

 

[QUAD-L] Your feelings please

[fireballsonic]

hello all,
since some time i'm member of this list but i never post. it's one member of 
this list who gave me the address to know more about quad's life. i have a 
question and i hope you will answer it : "what are your feelings or sensations 
in the parts of your body under the fracture ? Nothing ? special feelings like 
tinglings or ...
thanks for losing little time for me, have a great day, Phil