subject:"\[QUAD\-L\] Bowel program"

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM ISSUE

2020-05-24 Thread Lissette Whitehead

Hi Paul,
I used to do my BP every other day. Been doing it everyday for the last 5 years 
and I feel much better that way. If I ever skip a day now, I feel a lot of 
discomfort, spasms and sweating. Maybe you should try going every day.

Good luck!

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From: Paul Jacobson 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:37:18 AM
To: quad-list 
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM ISSUE

I do my bowel program every other day. I do take fiber supplements, BeneFiber, 
Miralax D-Mannose

and other supplements. Recently, the night before I do the bp, my stomach 
bothers me and causes AD

with sweating, particularly when I lay down. It seems that I am ready to go and 
the AD continues until

I do the bp the next morning. Anyone ever experience this? If so how did you 
solve?

Thank you,

Paul 56 year old healthy c5/6 complete.

[QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM ISSUE

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Jacobson

I do my bowel program every other day. I do take fiber supplements, BeneFiber, 
Miralax D-Mannose 

and other supplements. Recently, the night before I do the bp, my stomach 
bothers me and causes AD 

with sweating, particularly when I lay down. It seems that I am ready to go and 
the AD continues until 

I do the bp the next morning. Anyone ever experience this? If so how did you 
solve? 

Thank you, 

Paul 56 year old healthy c5/6 complete.

[QUAD-L] Bowel program

2019-11-30 Thread Noel

Does anybody use a suppository applicator? If so, which one?

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-04-16 Thread Aaron Mann

Magic Bullet by far the best over the 25 years I spent crapping for two
hours every other day.  :)

Greg, I agree, but at the same time I would have hated to have a colostomy
when I was in my teens and twenties.  Dating would have been more awkward.
Imagine those loud colostomy farts in class at school, lol.  At least now,
in my forties, I can just laugh it off as "just a part of life".  It's now
a good opportunity for some good jokes or just a loud follow-up clearing of
my throat to cover. Sex has modified some, I wrap an ace bandage around my
belly to prevent issues and use the same technique to go shirtless. (can't
bring myself to pull my pants over my belly)

But, overall, the convenience is life-changing. Read our other posts on
this.

Aaron Mann

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 5:53 PM Greg  wrote:

> I used Dulcalax for years, then went to Magic Bullets. But it was taking
> hours. Then went to Enemeez. Worked better for awhile. But things just
> got slower. So just "Bagged It" altogether. Got a colostomy. Best thing
> I ever did. 60 seconds a day. Every 5 days takes an extra 60 seconds.
>
> Greg
>
>

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-23 Thread Greg

I used Dulcalax for years, then went to Magic Bullets. But it was taking 
hours. Then went to Enemeez. Worked better for awhile. But things just 
got slower. So just "Bagged It" altogether. Got a colostomy. Best thing 
I ever did. 60 seconds a day. Every 5 days takes an extra 60 seconds.


Greg

RE: FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-23 Thread Nichole Rohling

That’s my schedule as well (M W F) and it works great for me. I also schedule 
appointments

For Tue Thurs and frees up weekend time.

 

Nicki

 

From: Randy Anderson [mailto:randyanderson...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 11:29 AM
To: Raymond Kelly
Cc: Quad List
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic 
Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

 

After my accident in 98 I rehabbed out at Craig Institute in Denver. They used 
and suggested I use MAGIC bullet, I have ever since and it seems to work for me 
although I've never tried anything else to compare it to.
Also, I use to do my ball program every other day but switched to 3 times a 
day, Monday Wednesday Friday.
This way it frees up my weekend and I know for Tuesday and Thursday that I'm 
getting out of bed earlier on a non-bowel day, and schedule appointments or 
other things for those 2 days.
For me, it hasn't given me any problems in doing it this way. You may or may 
not want to try it.
Randy

 

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 10:15 AM Raymond Kelly  wrote:

I have been using Enemeez for several years now and it has been working 
fabulously. I do my bowel therapy every other day.

Raymond c3/4

 

Let me know what you think.

Paul c5/6

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-23 Thread Randy Anderson

After my accident in 98 I rehabbed out at Craig Institute in Denver. They
used and suggested I use MAGIC bullet, I have ever since and it seems to
work for me although I've never tried anything else to compare it to.
Also, I use to do my ball program every other day but switched to 3 times a
day, Monday Wednesday Friday.
This way it frees up my weekend and I know for Tuesday and Thursday that
I'm getting out of bed earlier on a non-bowel day, and schedule
appointments or other things for those 2 days.
For me, it hasn't given me any problems in doing it this way. You may or
may not want to try it.
Randy

On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 10:15 AM Raymond Kelly  wrote:

> I have been using Enemeez for several years now and it has been working
> fabulously. I do my bowel therapy every other day.
>
> Raymond c3/4
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Paul c5/6
>

FW: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-23 Thread Raymond Kelly

I have been using Enemeez for several years now and it has been working
fabulously. I do my bowel therapy every other day.

Raymond c3/4

 

Let me know what you think.

Paul c5/6

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-22 Thread Sharon Hughes

Pulsed Irrigation Evacuation *PIE System.  My daughter with spina bifida
has used it for 15 years.  Www.piemed.com. I an the manufacturers rep at
PIE Medical.

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019, 2:02 PM Eric Olson  wrote:

> I use magic bullets.  I also take senecot and miralax on bowel days
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 3:01 PM Paul Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
>> Let me know what you think.
>> Paul c5/6
>>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-22 Thread Eric Olson

I use magic bullets.  I also take senecot and miralax on bowel days

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 3:01 PM Paul Jacobson  wrote:

> Let me know what you think.
> Paul c5/6
>

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-22 Thread johnny Cammon

Well i take 2Suppositories and a Enema .. which is ad painless . alittle messy 
though.. Magic bullets worked good some days, other days were rough .

Johnny c4/5

From: Paul Jacobson 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 3:01 PM
To: quad-list
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

Let me know what you think.
Paul c5/6

[QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM: What works best - Magic Bullet/Enemieez/Other?

2019-03-22 Thread Paul Jacobson

Let me know what you think.
Paul c5/6

RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-18 Thread nichole rohling

M/W/F mornings, dulcolax and follow w/ enema, I take 1 colace and 1 fibercon 
twice a day and recently started Align probiotic.

Nicki   

-Original Message-
From: Eric Olson [mailto:whee...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:02 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] bowel program

When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often? What things 
do you use to help move your bowels like senecot, miralax, metamucil?  Any 
simple things like all bran cereals or activia yogurt.  
I ask because I recently had to have abdominal surgery because of an ileus and 
have to radically rethink how I manage my bowels.  I had heard that quads can 
develop a mega-colon because of reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal 
person's colon is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to 
know if that's abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that have had 
abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel program 
Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a day and on bowel 
program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.  I ate bran cereals and 
activia yogurt every day too.  
What do you do?

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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread shirley bell

I do magic bullet every other day. Eat 2 fruits a day and normal diet. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Olson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:02 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] bowel program

When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often? What 
things do you use to help move your bowels like senecot, miralax, 
metamucil?  Any simple things like all bran cereals or activia yogurt.  
I ask because I recently had to have abdominal surgery because of an 
ileus and have to radically rethink how I manage my bowels.  I had heard 
that quads can develop a mega-colon because of reduced motility in the 
bowels.  A normal person's colon is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's 
the thing - nobody seems to know if that's abnormal.  I guess the number 
of 30 year quads that have had abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I 
used to do my bowel program Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking 
metamucil twice a day and on bowel program days I took a magic cleanse 
and 2 senecot.  I ate bran cereals and activia yogurt every day too.  
What do you do?

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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread Eric Olson

Wow, on morphine and not having problems.  I must have the slowest
bowels ever.

On 12/17/2015 5:36 PM, Eric Olson
  wrote:

  Forgot to ask how your doing? What's the benefits situation in
  AZ?  I mean for nurse/caregiver hours.  I thought Washington was
  pretty good.

  On 12/17/2015 4:44 PM, greg wrote:

 I

started doing my B-routine 3x a week, but years ago went to
2x a week, Mon. morning and Thur. night. I had fewer
accidents doing that. I used Enameez (sp?) and then switched
to Magic Bullets. But about a year ago I just “bagged it.”
Got a colostomy. Life is so much easier now. But after my
surgery the surgeon said my intestines were really weird.
Not only all scrambled up, but like fused together. He had
to cut them apart and it took twice as long as it was
supposed to. He could not tell if I was born that way, or if
B-routine for 30 years caused it, or it got messed up in my
car accident. Never mentioned if it was longer.
Greg

> When do you
do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often?
> What things
do you use to help move your bowels like senecot,
> miralax,
metamucil?  Any simple things like all bran cereals or
> activia
yogurt. I ask because I recently had to have abdominal
> surgery
because of an ileus and have to radically rethink how I
> manage my
bowels.  I had heard that quads can develop a mega-colon
> because of
reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal person's colon
> is 6 feet
long.  Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to
> know if
that's abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that
> have had
abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel
> program
Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a
> day and on
bowel program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.
> I ate bran
cereals and activia yogurt every day too. What do you
> do?
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread Eric Olson

Forgot to ask how your doing? What's the benefits situation in AZ? 
I mean for nurse/caregiver hours.  I thought Washington was pretty
good.

On 12/17/2015 4:44 PM, greg wrote:

   I
  started doing my B-routine 3x a week, but years ago went to 2x
  a week, Mon. morning and Thur. night. I had fewer accidents
  doing that. I used Enameez (sp?) and then switched to Magic
  Bullets. But about a year ago I just “bagged it.” Got a
  colostomy. Life is so much easier now. But after my surgery
  the surgeon said my intestines were really weird. Not only all
  scrambled up, but like fused together. He had to cut them
  apart and it took twice as long as it was supposed to. He
  could not tell if I was born that way, or if B-routine for 30
  years caused it, or it got messed up in my car accident. Never
  mentioned if it was longer.
  Greg

  > When do you do
  your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often?
  > What things do
  you use to help move your bowels like senecot,
  > miralax,
  metamucil?  Any simple things like all bran cereals or
  > activia yogurt.
  I ask because I recently had to have abdominal
  > surgery because
  of an ileus and have to radically rethink how I
  > manage my
  bowels.  I had heard that quads can develop a mega-colon
  > because of
  reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal person's colon
  > is 6 feet long.
   Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to
  > know if that's
  abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that
  > have had
  abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel
  > program
  Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a
  > day and on
  bowel program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.
  > I ate bran
  cereals and activia yogurt every day too. What do you
  > do?
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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread Gmail

I've been doing my BP the same for 42 years now. Every other night suppository 
that after I turn for the night, then I get cleaned up before I turn back on my 
back about 6-8 hours later. There is a cux there to "catch" everything.
   I'm able to move about my upper body enough to "keep things moving" and when 
I ride in my van or go for a walk and bounce around I notice that Leo helps 
"keep things moving".
I eat brand cereal for breakfast and a snack size yogurt every so often. 
Sometimes I take a stool softener when I need some extra help because I'm 
taking morphine since 2010 and it seams to constipate me.
I consult my sister who is a dietitian. She suggests fruit in moderation.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Eric Olson  wrote:
> 
> When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often? What 
> things do you use to help move your bowels like senecot, miralax, metamucil?  
> Any simple things like all bran cereals or activia yogurt.  I ask because I 
> recently had to have abdominal surgery because of an ileus and have to 
> radically rethink how I manage my bowels.  I had heard that quads can develop 
> a mega-colon because of reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal person's 
> colon is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to know 
> if that's abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that have had 
> abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel program 
> Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a day and on bowel 
> program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.  I ate bran cereals and 
> activia yogurt every day too.  What do you do?
> 
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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread greg

 I started doing my B-routine 3x a week, but years ago went to 2x a week, Mon. morning and Thur. night. I had fewer accidents doing that. I used Enameez (sp?) and then switched to Magic Bullets. But about a year ago I just “bagged it.” Got a colostomy. Life is so much easier now. But after my surgery the surgeon said my intestines were really weird. Not only all scrambled up, but like fused together. He had to cut them apart and it took twice as long as it was supposed to. He could not tell if I was born that way, or if B-routine for 30 years caused it, or it got messed up in my car accident. Never mentioned if it was longer.
Greg

> When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often?
> What things do you use to help move your bowels like senecot,
> miralax, metamucil?  Any simple things like all bran cereals or
> activia yogurt. I ask because I recently had to have abdominal
> surgery because of an ileus and have to radically rethink how I
> manage my bowels.  I had heard that quads can develop a mega-colon
> because of reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal person's colon
> is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to
> know if that's abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that
> have had abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel
> program Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a
> day and on bowel program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.
> I ate bran cereals and activia yogurt every day too. What do you
> do?
>
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RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread Dave Krehbiel

I use a magic bullet suppository most mornings. If I have trouble with 
constipation, a bit of fruit will usually help.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Olson [mailto:whee...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:02 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] bowel program

When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often? What things 
do you use to help move your bowels like senecot, miralax, metamucil?  Any 
simple things like all bran cereals or activia yogurt.  
I ask because I recently had to have abdominal surgery because of an ileus and 
have to radically rethink how I manage my bowels.  I had heard that quads can 
develop a mega-colon because of reduced motility in the bowels.  A normal 
person's colon is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's the thing - nobody seems to 
know if that's abnormal.  I guess the number of 30 year quads that have had 
abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I used to do my bowel program 
Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking metamucil twice a day and on bowel 
program days I took a magic cleanse and 2 senecot.  I ate bran cereals and 
activia yogurt every day too.  
What do you do?

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[QUAD-L] bowel program

2015-12-17 Thread Eric Olson

When do you do your bowel program?  I mean time of day.  How often? What 
things do you use to help move your bowels like senecot, miralax, 
metamucil?  Any simple things like all bran cereals or activia yogurt.  
I ask because I recently had to have abdominal surgery because of an 
ileus and have to radically rethink how I manage my bowels.  I had heard 
that quads can develop a mega-colon because of reduced motility in the 
bowels.  A normal person's colon is 6 feet long.  Mine is 12.  Here's 
the thing - nobody seems to know if that's abnormal.  I guess the number 
of 30 year quads that have had abdominal surgery is small.  Anyway I 
used to do my bowel program Monday,Wednesday Friday.  I was taking 
metamucil twice a day and on bowel program days I took a magic cleanse 
and 2 senecot.  I ate bran cereals and activia yogurt every day too.  
What do you do?


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Re: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program...

2009-02-10 Thread Quadius

I obviously should've read this before I sent my message.  It's much more
concise and pithy.
Q
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:42 PM,  wrote:

>  Thanks Todd for the update.  I understand how complex your situation can
> be when you don't have help or assistance. You do have the ability to
> control your diet and what you and the amounts you eat.  Yes, fiber, will
> improve your bowel program, whatever you chose.  Finding someone who knows
> and is certified to perform digital stim, is not easy.  Have you considered
> using Ducolac, Magic Bullet or Emeneze?
> If you are not aware of these products, you should go back to your medical
> doctor and ask for a bowel program evaluation.
> Best Wishes
>

Thanks Todd for the update. I understand how complex your situation can be
when you don't have help or assistance. You do have the ability to control
your diet and what you and the amounts you eat. Yes, fiber, will improve your
bowel program, whatever you chose. Finding someone who knows and is
certified to perform digital stim, is not easy. Have you considered using
Ducolac,
Magic Bullet or Emeneze?
If you are not aware of these products, you should go back to your medical
doctor and ask for a bowel program evaluation.
Best Wishes

In a message dated 2/5/2009 2:19:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

I am living alone and have no one that could perform them, which is the
first problem. Digital stimulation gives me trouble due to sensation even
with
different numbing products. It would make me dysreflexic. My diet is
horrible. I am 6'1 and weigh 120lbs. I think a good diet with fiber might
help me
regulate but as far as programs go I'm not sure what I can do.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote:

Todd, you should have a managed bowel program. I can't recommend the best
for you as I don't know your personal medical history. I don't know your level
of function either. I do know what can happen to your body or anyone else's
body when they fail to have a "regular" bowel movement.
There are some purist and naturalist who feel that a person should have a
bowel movement after every dinner or 3 times a day. Consider your habits
before you became a C6. Your waste is toxic and you should have a bowel
movement,
once a day or every other day. I realize that you may need help or
assistance and I don't know how often assistance is available for you.

What bowel program gave you so much trouble before? What product did you
use before?
Duxolex?

Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 2/5/2009 12:53:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
_todd.daughe...@gmail.com_ (mailto:todd.daughe...@gmail.com) writes:

Are there any quads out there that don't have a "bowel program?" I am an
incomplete c-6 and stopped doing programs after a few years because of the
discomfort. I have been injured since '89 and basically just wait until I get
the
sensation to go, and then get to a bathroom. The problems is that I am not
going on a regular basis and sometimes a week will go by between movements.
I am afraid of taking any kind of stool softeners for fear of diarrhea. This
is another subject but I went last year for a colon cleanse and it felt
really good to know that all that excees waste is out of my body.

Todd D

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RE: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program...

2009-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Treston

incompletes are different from completes

  _  

From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:56 PM
To: todd.daughe...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program...

Todd, you should have a managed bowel program.  I can't recommend the best
for you as I don't know your personal medical history. I don't know your
level of function either.  I do know what can happen to your body or anyone
else's body when they fail to have a "regular" bowel movement.
There are some purist and naturalist who feel that a person should have a
bowel movement after every dinner or 3 times a day.  Consider your habits
before you became a C6.  Your waste is toxic and you should have a bowel
movement, once a day or every other day.  I realize that you may need help
or assistance and I don't know how often assistance is available for you.

What bowel program gave you so much trouble before?  What product did you
use before?
Duxolex?

Best Wishes
W
In a message dated 2/5/2009 12:53:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

Are there any quads out there that don't have a "bowel program?" I am an
incomplete c-6 and stopped doing programs after a few years because of the
discomfort.  I have been injured since '89 and basically just wait until I
get the sensation to go, and then get to a bathroom.  The problems is that I
am not going on a regular basis and sometimes a week will go by between
movements.  I am afraid of taking any kind of stool softeners for fear of
diarrhea.  This is another subject but I went last year for a colon cleanse
and it felt really good to know that all that excees waste is out of my
body.

Todd D

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[QUAD-L] Bowel Program...

2009-02-05 Thread wheelchair

What bowel program gave you so much trouble before? What product did you
use before?
Duxolex?

Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 2/5/2009 12:53:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes:

Todd D

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RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program components

2007-12-10 Thread LTeasley

very funny danny... as long as it's french silk or pecan, i'm happy...

Lucinda
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Fw: [QUAD-L] bowel program components

2007-12-10 Thread howard hinshaw

hi danny,

I kept my own my it sunday, I made it for a couple of weeks out -whew!

buc,
c-4,c-5, c6 le-something
60/cal

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You buy a pie, then wait awhile...

 

Just kidding I don't know either, I would to know even if it doesn't apply to 
me...  I have a colostomy, I have a lot of trauma in my lower abdomen and got a 
nifty bag attached to me for it!

 

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

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From: LTeasley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:50 PM
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what is pie system?

Lucinda
C-4,5 complete
July 31, '05

Mpls., MN

 

  




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Fw: [QUAD-L] bowel program components

2007-12-10 Thread howard hinshaw

hi danny,

I kept my own my it sunday, I made it for a couple of weeks out -whew!

buc,
c-4,c-5, c6 le-something
60/cal

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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program components


You buy a pie, then wait awhile...

 

Just kidding I don't know either, I would to know even if it doesn't apply to 
me...  I have a colostomy, I have a lot of trauma in my lower abdomen and got a 
nifty bag attached to me for it!

 

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: LTeasley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:50 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowell program components

 

what is pie system?

Lucinda
C-4,5 complete
July 31, '05

Mpls., MN

 

  




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Fw: [QUAD-L] bowel program components

2007-12-10 Thread howard hinshaw

hi danny,

I kept my own my it sunday, I made it for a couple of weeks out -whew!

buc,
c-4,c-5, c6 le-something
60/cal

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From: Danny Espinoza<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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quad-list@eskimo.com<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com> 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program components


You buy a pie, then wait awhile...

 

Just kidding I don't know either, I would to know even if it doesn't apply to 
me...  I have a colostomy, I have a lot of trauma in my lower abdomen and got a 
nifty bag attached to me for it!

 

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: LTeasley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:50 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowell program components

 

what is pie system?

Lucinda
C-4,5 complete
July 31, '05

Mpls., MN

 

  




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RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program components

2007-12-10 Thread Danny Espinoza

You buy a pie, then wait awhile...

 

Just kidding I don't know either, I would to know even if it doesn't apply
to me...  I have a colostomy, I have a lot of trauma in my lower abdomen and
got a nifty bag attached to me for it!

 

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: LTeasley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:50 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowell program components

 

what is pie system?

Lucinda
C-4,5 complete
July 31, '05

Mpls., MN

 

  

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-31 Thread Ms Linda Ferrell

Hi,
I agree about the Magic Bullets are not as powerful as they use to be, 
eversince they stopped manufacturing them for awhile. I've started taking 4 
Senna tablets & a package of Kristolose the night before my BP.
Lindaf
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  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

  Hey Paul. 

  We all have different BP so we'll need a lil' more info on your BP. i.e. How 
often is your BR? Mornings or nights? Do you take oral laxities or stool 
softeners before hand?

  With those out of the way...I have heard that the "magic bullet" is not so 
migic anymore. Some say on this site that the bullet is nowhere near it's old 
self.

  I hope to hear more on your BP so you can find your answers...

  Keith/34/C4-5/NJ

  Paul writes:
Hello folks,

Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
BP has become less than routine.

I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
an hour.all done.

Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation. 

Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
takes another hour or so.

Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.

Thanks so much for your help!

Paul
San Diego, CA.

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-29 Thread SCIQuad96

 
Hey Paul. 

We all have different BP so we'll need a lil' more info on your BP.  i.e. How 
often is your BR? Mornings or nights? Do you take oral laxities or  stool 
softeners before hand?
 
With those out of the way...I have heard that the "magic bullet" is not so  
migic anymore. Some say on this site that the bullet is nowhere near it's old  
self.
 
I hope to hear more on your BP so you can find your answers...
 
Keith/34/C4-5/NJ
 
Paul writes:

Hello folks,
 
Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6  
43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year,  my 
BP has become less than routine.
 
I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in  
an hour.all done.
 
Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital  stimulation.  
Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where  I do 
range of motion and another suppository or two.  That  works...but it 
takes another hour or so.
 
Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
 
Thanks so much for your help!
 
Paul
San Diego, CA.



 



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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread John S.

Paul,
Off hand, I'd say increase your fibre intake. Citricel pills or whatevers 
cheapest. Never under estimate a shot or two of prune juice a 8 or so hours 
ahead of time. The Mirilax others are mentioning is cool. 
It is actually polyethylene glycol. It is hydro-dynamic so it absorbs water and 
carries it all the way to your bowel. This creates the proverbial, "smooth 
move".
With some added fibre and mirilax you may not need 2 magic bullets.
Ohyea. If your taking anti biotics or narcotics, please take some acidophylus 
and/or other probiotics

best of luck and wishes.
john

- Original Message 
From: Paul Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:47:15 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION


Hello folks,
 
Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
BP has become less than routine.
 
I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
an hour.all done.
 
Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
takes another hour or so.
 
Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
 
Thanks so much for your help!
 
Paul
San Diego, CA.

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread Dan


Did/does it help?


KK wrote:

Yes I use Miralax every day in my morning coffee.  Started using it as a
prescription item.  When it came over the counter, it was still cheaper to get 
it
with prescription.


KK

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread John S.

Mirilax works well for me. No cramps. I take three scoops in drinks the day 
before and use a bisocodyl suppository about 15 minutes befor i get on my 
commode. No hemmeroids, no real problems. Do not take a narcotic within 6 hours 
of your planned BM. Drink lots of water. Eat some greens. 
Mirilax is a must if you take narcotics.

john



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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:01:58 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

Has anyone tried Miralax?

Dan


At 11:47 PM 10/27/2007 -0700, Paul Jacobson said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>Hello folks,
> 
>Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
>43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
>BP has become less than routine.
> 
>I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
>an hour.all done.
> 
>Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
>Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
>range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
>takes another hour or so.
> 
>Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
> 
>Thanks so much for your help!
> 
>Paul
>San Diego, CA.

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Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread KK

Yes I use Miralax every day in my morning coffee.  Started using it as a
prescription item.  When it came over the counter, it was still cheaper to get 
it
with prescription.


KK

Remember: life is like a roll of toilet paper. 
The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes...

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread Dan

Has anyone tried Miralax?

Dan


At 11:47 PM 10/27/2007 -0700, Paul Jacobson said something that elicited my 
response:
  
>Hello folks,
> 
>Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
>43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
>BP has become less than routine.
> 
>I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
>an hour.all done.
> 
>Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
>Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
>range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
>takes another hour or so.
> 
>Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.
> 
>Thanks so much for your help!
> 
>Paul
>San Diego, CA.

Re: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-28 Thread theomen723

I always eat fruit and drink plenty of water and in about 30min I'm done.

Luke

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 1:47 am
Subject: [QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

Hello folks,

?

Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.? I'm a complete c5/6 

43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.? Over the last year, my 

BP has become less than routine.

?

I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 

an hour.all done.

?

Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.? 

Then I take a shower..still no results.? Then back to bed where I do 

range of motion and another suppository or two.? That works...but it 

takes another hour or so.

?

Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.

?

Thanks so much for your help!

?

Paul

San Diego, CA.

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[QUAD-L] BOWEL PROGRAM QUESTION

2007-10-27 Thread Paul Jacobson

Hello folks,

Hoping some of you can help, regarding my BP.  I'm a complete c5/6 
43-year old healthily quad injured 4 years ago.  Over the last year, my 
BP has become less than routine.

I used to use 1 or 2 Magic Bullet suppositories over the camode and in 
an hour.all done.

Now.I usually get next to nothing in an hour, with digital stimulation.  
Then I take a shower..still no results.  Then back to bed where I do 
range of motion and another suppository or two.  That works...but it 
takes another hour or so.

Any ideas how to do this in the first hour over the commode.

Thanks so much for your help!

Paul
San Diego, CA.

Re: Re[QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-05-01 Thread David K. Kelmer

Hi Jim,     Same here.  It takes me 20-25 min max from start to finish.  I do most of the work with the assistance of a manual stim to get my body started.     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I feel sorry for all you guys and gals that need to take so much time to have a bowel movement.  I consider myself very fortunate that it only takes me a few minutes to get results after I'm in position.     Jim

Re: Re[QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-30 Thread Jkrocks




I feel sorry for all you guys and gals that need to take so much time to 
have a bowel movement.  I consider myself very fortunate that it only takes 
me a few minutes to get results after I'm in position.
 
Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-30 Thread Jkrocks



 

Hi Paul,
 
I'm Jim a C-5/6 incomplete 46-year-old male, going on six years post.  
It took me 4.5 years to figure out my bowel program to where I very seldom have 
accidents anymore.  I still do have some accidents at night but very seldom 
during the day unless I eat hot spicy foods or take Citracel.  I do my 
bowel program twice per day because I need to be lifted by an electric hoist and 
do my bowel program while I'm hanging over a bucket and most days I will do 
something be at gas or actual bowel movement.  I do not need suppositories 
or digital stimulation just an occasional "tickle" with some toilet paper on my 
rectum.
 
My suggestion to you would be to stop using products to make you go and see 
what happens for a few days.  Hopefully, if you are anything like me, your 
stools will start to firm up and then your ball movements will become more 
consistent.  You might have to have your rectum "tickled" like I do to make 
you go but that is a lot better than taking all these products that make you 
inconsistent.  Just keep track of the last time you went so you do not end 
up getting constipated.  If you do not go after 3-4 days then you might 
want to try some digital stimulation or your suppositories.  My doctor had 
me on all that stuff and my stools were always runny and I had no consistency on 
when I go at all until I stopped taking everything and let my body do it 
naturally.  If you have any more questions please feel free to ask.
 
Jim

Re: Re[QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-28 Thread tahouston




2 hrs in bed for me
 
T Houston

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Zeraw 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:12 
PM
  Subject: Re[QUAD-L] Bowel Program
  
  it takes me 1hour to make sure i got it all out 
  ...seems to me you might be not taking enough time ..some ppl take up to 3 
  hours ..everyones different..try waiting a little while 20 min. and try again 
  ..after you think youre finished ..
   
  Zeraw T-10 T-11
  20Yrs post

Re: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-28 Thread Stacy Harim





Hi Paul,
 
I also use magic bullets and always have to stimulate to make sure I get 
everything.  I never completely empty.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul 
  Jacobson 
  To: quad-list 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:05 
PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Bowel Program
  Hi, I'm Paul c5/6 complete 42 yr. old injured 
  11/05/03.I am trying to do the BP every other daybut find I am 
  having accidents. Usually its the day I do BP...but later that day 
  there tends to be more. I use Magic Bullet suppositories.Any ideas 
  how to make sure I get it all in the morning?  Should I do dig. stim 
  while over the commode?  How long should I wait over the 
  commode.THANKSPaul- Original Message - 
  From: "Billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "quad-list" 
  <quad-list@eskimo.com>Sent: 
  Friday, April 28, 2006 12:43 PMSubject: [QUAD-L] Bermuda 
  Cruise> Anybody have any Bermuda land excursion or activities 
  experiences? I'm > cruising on Celebrity's Zenith in July. Got the ship 
  checked out, but I'd > like to plan Island time excursions (2 days 
  Hamilton, 1 Day St. > George).I'm C5 in a Permobil.>> 
  Thks>> Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can 
  do!>> Billy>

Re[QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-28 Thread Zeraw




it takes me 1hour to make sure i got it all out 
...seems to me you might be not taking enough time ..some ppl take up to 3 hours 
..everyones different..try waiting a little while 20 min. and try again ..after 
you think youre finished ..
 
Zeraw T-10 T-11
20Yrs post

[QUAD-L] Bowel Program

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Jacobson


Hi, I'm Paul c5/6 complete 42 yr. old injured 11/05/03.

I am trying to do the BP every other daybut find I am having accidents. 
Usually its the day I do BP...but later that day there tends to be more. 
I use Magic Bullet suppositories.


Any ideas how to make sure I get it all in the morning?  Should I do dig. 
stim while over the commode?  How long should I wait over the commode.


THANKS

Paul

- Original Message - 
From: "Billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "quad-list" 
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:43 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Bermuda Cruise


Anybody have any Bermuda land excursion or activities experiences? I'm 
cruising on Celebrity's Zenith in July. Got the ship checked out, but I'd 
like to plan Island time excursions (2 days Hamilton, 1 Day St. 
George).I'm C5 in a Permobil.


Thks

Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do!

Billy

RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone

2004-09-23 Thread Mike Murach

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone








I’m a c-4 quadriplegic who has lived
on my own for 13 years.  My homecare agency attendants do my bp every morning
(suppository).

Mike~

 



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From: Houston Leek
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004
10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel
program/living alone

 

I think someones lied 2 U. I and I can’t began 2 count the
others I know that have a nurse from an agency 2 do bp. So you need 2 check
with another healthcare provider.

On 9/21/04 5:00 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

hi everyone
 
   i've been wanting to move out of my
moms house and go to college for over a year now but because of my pain in my
hips/back i can't see myself keeping up with a normal school schedule.  plus
i was told by my health care provider that i probably wouldn't be able to get
bowel care because the nurse that does it would be liable if something happened
to me during bp.  right now my mom is doing it.  i don't understand
how a person who doesn't have a family member to do their bp and is living on
their own, gets the bp done.  am i being lied to by my healthcare
provider.  i would get my mom to keep doing it after i move out but she'll
be living an hour away.  thats too much gas to burn every two days.
 
 those who live on their own- i need advice on how
i should prepare to live on my own.
 
luke

Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone

2004-09-23 Thread Houston Leek

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone



I think someones lied 2 U. I and I can’t began 2 count the others I know that have a nurse from an agency 2 do bp. So you need 2 check with another healthcare provider.

On 9/21/04 5:00 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi everyone
 
   i've been wanting to move out of my moms house and go to college for over a year now but because of my pain in my hips/back i can't see myself keeping up with a normal school schedule.  plus i was told by my health care provider that i probably wouldn't be able to get bowel care because the nurse that does it would be liable if something happened to me during bp.  right now my mom is doing it.  i don't understand how a person who doesn't have a family member to do their bp and is living on their own, gets the bp done.  am i being lied to by my healthcare provider.  i would get my mom to keep doing it after i move out but she'll be living an hour away.  thats too much gas to burn every two days.
 
 those who live on their own- i need advice on how i should prepare to live on my own.
 
luke

[QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone

2004-09-22 Thread wheelchair

Luke, No One can take better care of you like your own, period.
But life is an adventure just waiting to gobble ya up if you don't have a  
plan A and a plan B.  You will realize this if you so choose to relocate to a 
college campus.  You should plan on visiting the campus first and discuss your 
worries with the Director of DisAbled Student Services.
As a new student you will be given a list of potential student aides that may 
be pursuing a medical education and looking for hands on experience.  Some 
states will pay $7-!0 dollars per hour X 5 hours per day @ 7 days per week on 
your daily requirements which include BP.  After you join the campus you will 
have an opportunity to meet with the student population that uses these services 
and do interviews until you chose a person that you feel comfortable with.  
You will then become their employer... while you are attending school.  You 
will have full authority to fire and hire another aide of your chosing.  Remember 
too that you are probably not the first quad on campus and that you can 
request to meet with other quads before you transfer to the campus.  The campus 
quads will guide you accordingly.
Now, get ready for school and start your planning.  You will have fun... 
while you are getting an education and learning things about yourself that you 
couldn't imagine  you would do or learn.  Best Wishes!
W
In a message dated 9/21/04 5:01:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< those who live on their own- i need advice on how i should prepare to 
live on my own.

luke >>

RE: [QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone

2004-09-22 Thread Steve Oldaker

Title: Message



Luke...
 
Many colleges/universities provide PCAs to their disabled students living 
in dorms on campus in exchange for room and board for the PCAs.  They 
actually live in the same dorm and rotate "On call" duties to cover emergency 
after hour needs.  This was even the case at the University of Kentucky 
when I was there twenty-four years.  You may want to see what is available 
attendant wise at colleges in your state.  Vocational Rehabilitation should 
pay for some if not all of your attend care while you are in school if there are 
a related expenses.
 
Another consideration is your type of bowel program.  If you are doing 
digital stimulus at all, you will get resistance from virtually all of the 
agency managed assistance.  I cannot tolerate digital stimulus (I get very 
dysreflexic).  My bowel program consists of lying on my left side and 
having a suppository inserted into the rectum.  Normally, I evacuate within 
30-60 minutes, no longer than 2 hours.  I do this right before going to 
sleep, so I generally sleep through the process.  I evacuate onto a blue 
pad and it is usually not as messy as you might think.
 
The above process has worked well for me for 16 years.  Since it is 
not an invasive procedure so to speak, agency hired PCAs may go along with this 
type of bowel program.
 
Good luck in managing your future education and PCA needs.
 
Steve - C4

  
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  alone
  hi everyone
   
     i've been wanting to move out of my 
  moms house and go to college for over a year now but because of my pain in my 
  hips/back i can't see myself keeping up with a normal school 
  schedule.  plus i was told by my health care provider that i probably 
  wouldn't be able to get bowel care because the nurse that does it would be 
  liable if something happened to me during bp.  right now my mom is 
  doing it.  i don't understand how a person who doesn't have a family 
  member to do their bp and is living on their own, gets the bp done.  am i 
  being lied to by my healthcare provider.  i would get my mom to keep 
  doing it after i move out but she'll be living an hour away.  thats too 
  much gas to burn every two days.
   
   those who live on their own- i need 
  advice on how i should prepare to live on my own.
   
  luke

[QUAD-L] bowel program/living alone

2004-09-21 Thread TheOmen723



hi everyone
 
   i've been wanting to move out of my moms house and go to college for over a year now but because of my pain in my hips/back i can't see myself keeping up with a normal school schedule.  plus i was told by my health care provider that i probably wouldn't be able to get bowel care because the nurse that does it would be liable if something happened to me during bp.  right now my mom is doing it.  i don't understand how a person who doesn't have a family member to do their bp and is living on their own, gets the bp done.  am i being lied to by my healthcare provider.  i would get my mom to keep doing it after i move out but she'll be living an hour away.  thats too much gas to burn every two days.
 
 those who live on their own- i need advice on how i should prepare to live on my own.
 
luke

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