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Barbara , This is so true even if you don't have children or grandchildren. You may have also have nieces and nephews or cousins, besides other family members to enjoy. If you don't, you can adopt, or be adopted by a family.I think the Lord brings people into your live to help you along the way that may come and go . My 31 years have been difficult, but I'm glad I'm still here. My yourkie cheers me up all the time as she is so sweet and loving all the timeDana . Hi Barbara, After a few years, 4-7, things seem to start being "normal" living as a Quad. I have lived thirty years as a Quad, and have seen my boys growup, get married, and give me Grandchildren to hold. I would have hated to missed that in my life, no matter what. Stay strong. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Hi Barbara,After a few years, 4-7, things seem to start being "normal" living as a Quad. I have lived thirty years as a Quad, and have seen my boys growup, get married, and give me Grandchildren to hold. I would have hated to missed that in my life, no matter what. Stay strong.With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children?Barbara
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I'm not sure when the time will be right - if ever. I do know my parents lived too long - both died slow deaths in their mucous years - wetting themselves and forgetting names of people around them. One of my sons is now putting his life on hold while baby-sitting his wife's grandmother and my parents gradually alienated all their kids by living with them too long. I'm not waiting for any of these things to happen - I'll go camping by myself in a desolate spot first. That time is not in the cards this week or next but I'm sure it looms on the horizon somewhere. All this makes me live life a little closer to the fire - enjoying more sweet forbidden roses along the way. Dave In a message dated 6/10/2006 5:42:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When will the time be right for you? For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself. Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point. But I have too much to do yet in this world. KK On Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave = Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
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In a message dated 6/10/2006 7:42:55 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When will the time be right for you? For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself. Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point. But I have too much to do yet in this world. KK Looking thru a glass of cloudy water is almost impossible. Holding the very same glass of cloudy water, 12 inches from your eyes, allows you to see around the very glass you couldn't see thru before. Making any final decisions, is kinda like that. 5, 10, 30 minutes can make a difference in your life. Make smart choices and. Best Wishes W
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As an ex-stuntman, I know methods that are 99.99% reliable, but never had the desire to leave. (and NO, I'll not give anybody tips on what those methods are) My mind was made up the night after my accident to DEAL WITH IT. Barbara, I'm a C5-6 who reached 10yrs last month. The first couple are the most difficult, and I won't lie by saying the rest are easy but it is worth it. Quitters never know the exeleration of SUCCESS. Graduating college with a 3.8 GPA had never occured to me prior to my injury 10 yrs ago. Now, I'm working on that next challenge (and have many more planned). Dying is easy, and just surviving isn't enough. One needs to keep their spirit alive by pursuit of an interest. Good luck finding what makes you feel ALIVE, as it'll be worth the effort. Stunt On 6/8/06, Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would be sure to work. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here I always wondered if anyone else ever had the same thought when they were newly injured. Dana In a message dated 6/8/2006 12:59:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Must be a common thought, I too though about the semi harry carrie. Lol. Silas - Original Message - From: RollinOn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/08/06 at 04:04 PM, Bill_J [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would be sure to work. I've never figured out a way, period, though I'd like to have one just in case. Alan -- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com ---
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I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave In a message dated 6/10/2006 3:24:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/08/06 at 04:04 PM, "Bill_J" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would besure to work.I've never figured out a way, period, though I'd like to have one just incase.Alan-- --- Posted by alanh77[at]comcast.net using MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 Proudly using eComstation 1.21 (OEM OS/2) BBS - The Nerve Center Telnet FidoNet 261/1000 tncbbs.no-ip.com--- Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
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When will the time be right for you? For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself. Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point. But I have too much to do yet in this world.KKOn Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave
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Barbara and all who missed this announcement before,I created a Forum for Quads and our Caregivers that has gone unused for a while now.You're all welcome to join in.Might make subjects like Total Quad Years etc much easier to keep from getting over repeated. http://nw-in.com/InvisionBoard/index.php Some have already posted their stats and creating new Topics is easy! Signing up is easy, just reply to an e-mail, then after signing in you can create a profile,upload a pic, etc We have 22 registered members, the more the marrier Created by a Quad 4 Quads. Stunt
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So many talk of killing themselves in here, why did so many throw a fit when they decided to let Terry Shiavo die?? she sure could not take care of herself. KK Batte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:When will the time be right for you? For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself. Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point. But I have too much to do yet in this world.KK On Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave
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I didn't know y'all were so depressed? In a message dated 6/10/2006 9:24:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So many talk of killing themselves in here, why did so many throw a fit when they decided to let Terry Shiavo die?? she sure could not take care of herself. KK Batte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When will the time be right for you? For me it is when I can no longer take care of myself. Today I realized that I was nearer than I thought to that point. But I have too much to do yet in this world. KK On Jun 10, 2006, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a bottle of valium and a fifth of some good hooch ought to do it. that's my plan when the time is right. Dave
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In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:30:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Dan I'm not a quadette either. Working with quads from all different backgrounds and who became quadsby different causes, provides me with a unique perspective, I hope. Do you know that most quad women are absolutely beautiful, while that is not necessarily the case with quad guys.. Know why? W
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In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:29:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Dan LOL. I've always said that this is not my planet. I"m just a greatful visitor. W
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C'mon now Wheel, we're all beautiful lol! Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/08/06 08:06:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:30:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Dan I'm not a quadette either. Working with quads from all different backgrounds and who became quadsby different causes, provides me with a unique perspective, I hope. Do you know that most quad women are absolutely beautiful, while that is not necessarily the case with quad guys.. Know why? W
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Must be a common thought, I too though about the semi harry carrie. Lol. Silas - Original Message - From: RollinOn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Why does he call himself wheelchair? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Nope, not a quad. That's why he didn't add his years as a quad to the "total number of quad years" on the list
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I always wondered if anyone else ever had the same thought when they were newly injured. Dana In a message dated 6/8/2006 12:59:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Must be a common thought, I too though about the semi harry carrie. Lol. Silas - Original Message - From: RollinOn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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In a message dated 6/8/2006 11:58:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon now Wheel, we're all beautiful lol! Mark ---Original Message--- Your right Mark. But women tend to be better looking. They often are the passengers next to their boyfriends, when cars crash. The driver escapes without a scratch and the girl is the one injuried. So many times to many times. Just a suttle observation W
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In a message dated 6/8/2006 11:57:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon now Wheel, we're all beautiful lol! Mark LOL. Men are handsome, women are beautiful. Now say that 100 times. W
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In a message dated 6/8/2006 12:02:29 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Nope, not a quad. That's why he didn't add his years as a quad to the "total number of quad years" on the list Duh, Homer, lol W
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I was going to say that, but I thought that was too simple of an answer! lolDanaIn a message dated 6/8/2006 1:33:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 6/8/2006 11:57:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon now Wheel, we're all beautiful lol! Mark LOL. Men are handsome, women are beautiful. Now say that 100 times. W
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That is their specialty! Dana. In a message dated 6/8/2006 1:28:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 6/8/2006 1:02:48 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why does he call himself wheelchair? - Original Message - inquirint mimes wanna know! W
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I had many thoughts about suicide but never found THE way that would be sure to work. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here I always wondered if anyone else ever had the same thought when they were newly injured. Dana In a message dated 6/8/2006 12:59:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Must be a common thought, I too though about the semi harry carrie. Lol. Silas - Original Message - From: RollinOn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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So do ot, pt, nurses etc. but none know what it's like to be disabled. Wally is smart enough not to say -I know how you feel or -I know what you're going through and knows the difference. Jim Lubin and I met this idiot in a chat room that said she knew what it was like to be on a vent because she had empathy. It's like men not knowing what it is like to give birth. Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:30:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Dan I'm not a quadette either. Working with quads from all different backgrounds and who became quadsby different causes, provides me with a unique perspective, I hope. Do you know that most quad women are absolutely beautiful, while that is not necessarily the case with quad guys.. Know why? W
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I had the same thoughts too. I had grand illusions of running into or letting a moving car run into myself while sitting in the road in my wheelchair. Then, two thoughts crossed my mind, the thought of the guilt the driver would have if I died or not dying at all and being more disabled than I am now. T. Houston C5-C6 - Original Message - From: RollinOn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here That's funny you said that Dana, I had the same thought that I'd roll myself out in front of a semi. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 18:15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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In a message dated 6/8/2006 5:48:13 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had the same thoughts too. I had grand illusions of running into or letting a moving car run into myself while sitting in the road in my wheelchair. Then, two thoughts crossed my mind, the thought of the guilt the driver would have if I died or not dying at all and being more disabled than I am now. T. Houston C5-C6 I've said this before and I'll repeat it cuz it bears repeating. Walter "Sweetness" Payton of the Chicago Bears once told me that God gave him the gift of life. What he did with his life, was his gift in return. As you can read, I never forgot him or his story. W
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Well, I'd love to know WHY...Wheel Gina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 6/7/2006 9:30:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol DanI'm not a quadette either. Working with quads from all different backgrounds and who became quadsby different causes, provides me with a unique perspective, I hope.Do you know that most quad women are absolutely beautiful, while that is not necessarily the case with quad guys.. Know why? W Why expect the worst when it will probably never happen? Wipe those gloomy thoughts from your mind and focus on what's going right instead. Havingf a positive outlook can change the outcome in so many ways.
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In a message dated 6/8/2006 6:43:58 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I'd love to know WHY...Wheel Gina I honestly think GOD intended it that way. ( I hope you read my other posting) W
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Welcome Barbara, I'm Mark 40 yrs old anda C5/6 going on 7 yrs post now and the first 2-3 years are the hardest. I was in a nursing home for 2 1/2 years and that's no place for a youngster like you so stay clear of that. Find something you liketo do asap andyou'll find a way to do it, it's small steps at first but there's a lot of help out there. Youare very young and I can imagine you were still trying to find yourself prior to your accident. The one thing you have is education readily available to you at no cost and that's a great place to start andI know it's not easy putting yourself out there but the sooner you do the easier it gets. I'm a single parent working in construction and life is great for me and although I haven't found my better half yet I'm still looking. Good luck on you journey and "it's not how you fall down that matters it's all about how you get up!" Lots of good advice so ask anything and I bet you get a great answer. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/06/06 18:30:39 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Barb, I was also injured at 19. July 1, 1986. I know this won't be very reassuring but in terms of sci you're still very new. I'm sure everyone on this list has had days or even much longer periods where they asked themselves "what's the point?" It can take time to figure out what to do next. You're at the age where you may not have had much of an idea what you wanted to do next with your life without a sci. You've already taken a big step in the right direction by contacting us. I met my wife 14 years after my injury and we're expecting a baby next month. The best advice I can give you is to stay busy with anything. It keeps negative thoughts from taking over. Where are you located? Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Hi Barbara, I'm glad you found this list, I did know did not know about it, when I was in new injury as I did not have the computer until 85 and not connected to the Internet until 2003 . I'm not even sure when this was started, maybe someone can tell us. I could never thank Jim Lubin enough for starting this list. I'm not married, but still looking, I have no children, just a 4.1 pound female yourkie named Zoe. There is still life after SCI. Feel free to talk to us about anything, as I'm sure someone will be able to answer questions you may have and share their experiences. . I remember feeling hopeless, after I returned from rehab, I wanted to drive in front of a semi, but I figured with my luck, I would not die, I would just be more disabled. Thank you for joining our list Dana ( C4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC suburb in Kansas) Hello Barbara, Welcome to the quad list, this list of people are great! Just ask anything and someone has been there, I know exactly what your going through. Theres life after sci! Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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How do we do it? Very simple answer: One day at a time. Before you know it many years will have passed. A funny thing about time: the older you get, the faster time passes. Don't worry, Barb. You'll make it. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLHe had a mind like a Post-It note; it held things but not real tight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Hiya Barbara, You don't know me and that is not too important at this time, but for the next 2-3 years, you are on a mission to get to know your body all over again. During the last 12 months, the doctors, nurses and therapist have been handling your body like its a piece of meat and you've discovered that its just not the same body you remember almost 12 months ago. You arenow training forthe Marathon ofYour Life. You must continue to train your body to determine its potential and what can be done. It won't be easy. It never is. Your personal life is also changing, but again, you've noticed that already. Your friends and steadies have gone on to college. Some have gotten married and are trying to make the best with their new lifes.Theywon't be around like they used to. As you are gaining strength, consider signing up with Voc Rehab. They will send you to college toget an education. A better education. Your social life should alsobe rekindled on a local level. Crashs only slow down your social life, not eliminate it. Let us all know what is happening in your life and how your parents and friends have accepted you in the last 12 months. When you are ready, tell us about your crash. Let us know about what your plans were and what they will be now. Inquiring minds. are nosey, lol. Best Wishes W In a message dated 6/6/2006 6:30:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara
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Dear Barbara, 'W' seems to know how to say all the right things even though he is not a quad himself. I think he did an excellent job of welcomingyou to this list in his own special way! Us female quads are a special breed of our own. I think the statistics still say that85% of quadriplegics are male. But there are several females on this list so you have come to a good place! You may have read a recent post of mine that said that when I was in rehab ... it was impossible for me to fathom that my "peer counselor" had been a quadriplegic for 10 years. Since I was only 15 years old ... that was more than half my life so it really was incomprehensible to me that someone could function, with so little, in a wheelchair for so long a time. I don't want to write a book here so I will just say that I was injured at the age of 15 in a motor vehicle accident. My father had passed away when I was 13 and then my injury happened about a year and a half after that. To add insult to injury [pardon the pun!] ... when I was in rehab my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I thought I was going to lose my mind. She was my best friend and it was just "her and I together" against the world after my father passed. When I think back people were always keeping me busy, busy, busy! People from the communitywere taking me all kinds of places. I had to begin to finish high school.And all this while watching my mom slowly pass away. I think our instincts of "survival" automatically pop into place. Because I really had no choice. So again, to make a long story short, I finished high school and my mom passed away during that time. I moved in with my grandparents who lived right next door and began college immediately after high school. I went four years and got my baccalaureate degree. In my second year of college I met my first "boyfriend" and we became "a couple" for 12 whole years. I thought we would be together forever but one day he came to me and said that he "Did not love me in the spousal away anymore." I thought that he was approaching age 40 that he was just going through a midlife crisis and that it was just a phase but I was wrong. Again, I was devastated. This time I think it was pure shock that got me through that hurdle. My health had deteriorated [with pain among other things] and I do not think he could handle it anymore. Or rather he did not WANT to handle it anymore. Strangely enough, I met my current husband on the Internet almost 9 years ago now. :-) So, most definitely, there is life after his spinal cord injury! It has been a long and difficult road which is an understatement itself. But unless I want to waste my life through depression or some type of weird suicide ... my other option was to 'go on.' Something occurred to me overthis past weekend. I do not know if you are a "Lord of the Rings" fan or not. I most certainly was not for the longest time! But now I am addicted to J.R.R. Tolkien's story. Anyway, as we were watching "Return of the King" on the weekend and even though I have seen it numerous times ... the ending really made me think this time around. After aLONG, sacrificing, and humblingjourney ... the main character in the story begins to write in his journal "How Do I Pick up the Pieces of an Old Life?" I often think of my life before my injury and how much fun I used to have. But I cannot bring that time back. I cannot pick up the pieces of that old life. As with the main character in the story and as with my life we have to go on and make a different story. Finding this list is a remarkable first step! Sometimes people will be injured for many years and never come across this list. I am glad I stumbled upon it 11 years ago and have found the most valuable first-hand information here over any place else. That was longer than I intended to write but please stick with us! Lori C4/5 Complete, 26 yrs post Tucson, AZ AGE - 41 ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 06/07/06 16:31:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Hiya Barbara, You don't know me and that is not too important at this time, but for the next 2-3 years, you are on a mission to get to know your body all over again. During the last 12 months, the doctors, nurses and therapist have been handling your body like its a piece of meat and you've discovered that its just not the same body you remember almost 12 months ago. You arenow training forthe Marathon ofYour Life. You must continue to train your body to determine its potential and what can be done. It won't be easy. It never is. Your personal life is also changing, but again, you've noticed that already. Your friends and steadies have gone on to college. Some have gotten married and are trying to make the best with their new lifes.Theywon't be around like they used to. As you are
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In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:32:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Barbara, 'W' seems to know how to say all the right things even though he is not a quad himself. I think he did an excellent job of welcomingyou to this list in his own special way! What Lori said is true. I work with quads from all over this country. Some are celebrities, most are not. One of my favorite is Renee Bondi (www.reneebondi.com) in California. She is such an emotional person. Thank God she's a woman, lol. She is a book writer and singer. She is Mother and Wife. Check out her book, Last Dance, But Not The Last Song. What is most important at this time is that you continue on posting...and survival. Best Wishes W
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W" is not a quad ? hmm then what are u W" ? lol Dan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:32:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Dear Barbara,'W' seems to know how to say all the right things even though he is not a quad himself. I think he did an excellent job of welcomingyou to this list in his own special way!What Lori said is true. I work with quads from all over this country. Some are celebrities, most are not.One of my favorite is Renee Bondi (www.reneebondi.com) in California. She is such an emotional person. Thank God she's a woman, lol. She is a book writer and singer. She is Mother and Wife. Check out her book, Last Dance, But Not The Last Song.What is most important at this time is that you continue on posting...and survival. Best Wishes W
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Hi Barbara, I have been a C-4 quad since 1983. For me the physical part really hasn't really got any better, after 3 years i got back as much movement as i was going to get back. Now that I look back at my quad-life, I should have paid more at what was going on at the moment instead of dwelling on my past or even future. Taking care of your body is going to be a choir, but if you do this well then the load of stress , depression and all the crap we live with would be lighter. If your body feels good them your spirit and mind will most likely fallow. Try not to make your life harder then it already is, keep your body well, sharpen your mind and eat lots of spirit food, take care. On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://macknezjohnson.com
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Hey Barbara. I was injured c5 in 1971 when I was 19 -- just like you. For a long time I felt exactly as you do, wondering daily if it was worth it. Then some wonderful people got me directed toward college. I graduated in 1976 with a teaching certificate, started teaching high school English, and just finished my 27th year. Along the way I got married and had two kids. To answer your question, YES YES YES a quality life is still possible. The key is to find a purpose, a reason for getting out of bed. It is so easy to simply sit and dwell on your loss and think about all the might-have-beens. That simply leads to despair. Find something to work toward, something to dedicate yourself to, something that will rebuild your self esteem and give you a reason to go forward. God bless you, be strong, and hang in there. Larry Willis From: Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] I'm kinda new here Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 17:24:40 -0700 Hi Barbara, I have been a C-4 quad since 1983. For me the physical part really hasn't really got any better, after 3 years i got back as much movement as i was going to get back. Now that I look back at my quad-life, I should have paid more at what was going on at the moment instead of dwelling on my past or even future. Taking care of your body is going to be a choir, but if you do this well then the load of stress , depression and all the crap we live with would be lighter. If your body feels good them your spirit and mind will most likely fallow. Try not to make your life harder then it already is, keep your body well, sharpen your mind and eat lots of spirit food, take care. On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara Mack Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://macknezjohnson.com
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Begitee, I became a c3 quad in 1986 at 18 yrs old and like you, I felt scared and uncertain about how my life would play out. I've spent most of the last 20 years hiding away from society and myself andlet depression and insecurity rule my life. I havebeen living in a nursing home for the last 4 years and will probably do so until my life ends, and for what? I'm not sure. I had opportunities to get my education and become a vital member of society but I squandered them due to foolishness regarding my disability. I have disabled friends who went on to get their degrees, good jobs and many are married with children and have homes and independence that I can only dream of -- don't be like me! Pursue all avenues available to you, in Vocational Rehabilitation, college grants or scholarships. Whatever you do don't letany opportunities for a positive independent life pass you by -you're young and most likely will live MANY more years -make them the best they can be for you! Best of luck, Stephanie
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Barb, You already got some great advice here so I'll try not to duplicate. I found that I was pretty lost for about the 1st 5 years but then my wants and desires took over and I got really 'into' my current life situation. I finished my college degree and got certified to teach high school. I taught for a year then substituted for 3 more before Honeywell called. I had put my name in EVERYWHERE here in Phoenix and finally the phone rang. The 1st week there somebody retired with 30 years and I almost crapped. I couldn't imagine doing anything for 30 years. I just finished 25 with Honeywell before they pushed me out - now I'm raising grand kids - 2 more coming in August-October. Just keep doing what you have to do to make it through each day - some of us are still doing that now even as we wait for something neat (like grand kids ) to happen. Best of luck to you... Dave In a message dated 6/6/2006 4:30:37 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I don't know if this is right but I need to ask a question about living, or should I say existing, as a quad? I'm a bit intimidated about how long some of you have been quads. I was in a car accident July 4 2005 and I'm c 5 19 yrs old. I don't think I want to live 10, 20, 30 or 40 years like this? How do you guys do it? I'm so overwhelmed and scared. What am I sopo to do with my life like this? Are any of you guys married or have children? Barbara Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967
