Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Aaron Mann]

Love my jeans too, here's my solution:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sweats+that+look+like+jeans&hvadid=318574488686&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9026086&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=11360111492347006787&hvtargid=aud-647006051489%3Akwd-303583653070&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_4tmvs0nob1_b


Only you will know the difference.

Aaron Mann


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:53 AM Eric Olson  wrote:

> I live in Zubaz. https://zubaz.com/  They were popular in the 80's.  I
> only wear jeans if I'm going somewhere (movie, restaurant etc.).  Jeans are
> just plain hard on your skin.  Zubaz are lightweight, don't hold in heat
> like sweat pants and come in funky colors/patterns.  You can even get
> sports teams (although those can be pricey).  I like the urban camo.  Goes
> with everything, but don't have it extra large right now.  Check out the
> sale section if you're interested
>
>
> 
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> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:31 PM Robert Vogel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> My ‘2-cents’, check out GlideWear underwear and/or shorts. They have a
>> two layer backside that
>> ‘slides against each other’ thus removing most shear. They also make
>> custom cushion covers.
>>
>> Here is a link to an article I wrote about the shorts for New Mobility
>> magazine. I’m 34-years into
>> being a T10 complete para and I wear GlideWear exclusively.
>> http://www.newmobility.com/2017/11/glidewear-skin-protection-underwear/
>>
>> Bob V
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Greg  wrote:
>>
>> I have a small butt sore, been going to the wound doc once a week to get
>> debrided. It was just a surface wound, like a sheered area of skin. It was
>> 66% healed on Mon. Today its twice as big as when it started. Something
>> caused sheer, but only sometimes. Wearing jeans 1 day is what caused the
>> sore. Doc said it looked like sheer, not pressure.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Eric Olson]

I live in Zubaz. https://zubaz.com/  They were popular in the 80's.  I only
wear jeans if I'm going somewhere (movie, restaurant etc.).  Jeans are just
plain hard on your skin.  Zubaz are lightweight, don't hold in heat like
sweat pants and come in funky colors/patterns.  You can even get sports
teams (although those can be pricey).  I like the urban camo.  Goes with
everything, but don't have it extra large right now.  Check out the sale
section if you're interested


Virus-free.
www.avast.com

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On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:31 PM Robert Vogel  wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> My ‘2-cents’, check out GlideWear underwear and/or shorts. They have a two
> layer backside that
> ‘slides against each other’ thus removing most shear. They also make
> custom cushion covers.
>
> Here is a link to an article I wrote about the shorts for New Mobility
> magazine. I’m 34-years into
> being a T10 complete para and I wear GlideWear exclusively.
> http://www.newmobility.com/2017/11/glidewear-skin-protection-underwear/
>
> Bob V
>
> On Mar 27, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Greg  wrote:
>
> I have a small butt sore, been going to the wound doc once a week to get
> debrided. It was just a surface wound, like a sheered area of skin. It was
> 66% healed on Mon. Today its twice as big as when it started. Something
> caused sheer, but only sometimes. Wearing jeans 1 day is what caused the
> sore. Doc said it looked like sheer, not pressure.
>
> Greg
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Robert Vogel]

Hi Greg,

My ‘2-cents’, check out GlideWear underwear and/or shorts. They have a two 
layer backside that 
‘slides against each other’ thus removing most shear. They also make custom 
cushion covers.

Here is a link to an article I wrote about the shorts for New Mobility 
magazine. I’m 34-years into
being a T10 complete para and I wear GlideWear exclusively.
http://www.newmobility.com/2017/11/glidewear-skin-protection-underwear/ 


Bob V

> On Mar 27, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Greg  wrote:
> 
> I have a small butt sore, been going to the wound doc once a week to get 
> debrided. It was just a surface wound, like a sheered area of skin. It was 
> 66% healed on Mon. Today its twice as big as when it started. Something 
> caused sheer, but only sometimes. Wearing jeans 1 day is what caused the 
> sore. Doc said it looked like sheer, not pressure.
> 
> Greg

[QUAD-L] Sore

[Greg]

I have a small butt sore, been going to the wound doc once a week to get 
debrided. It was just a surface wound, like a sheered area of skin. It 
was 66% healed on Mon. Today its twice as big as when it started. 
Something caused sheer, but only sometimes. Wearing jeans 1 day is what 
caused the sore. Doc said it looked like sheer, not pressure.


Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Throat to Chest.

[Danny Hearn]

 Yep, Greg that is going around nowI have the same type thing, started with 
a sore throat, I'm on about my 3rd or 4th day and starting to feel better. Dan 
***
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018, 7:08:09 PM CST, Greg  
wrote:  
 
   My sore throat moved into my chest, plus a fever. Went to ER for chest x-ray.
 Its not bad on the x-ray, but my chest is heavy and cold when  cough. At least 
its moving, coughing it up. But its always a bit worrisome when in our chests.
 Plus my allergies are supper bad now. I can't believe how much snot can be up 
there. I think I blow 3 head fulls of snot a day. Switch from tissues to paper 
towels to handle the excessive snot.
 
 Greg

[QUAD-L] Sore Throat to Chest.

[Greg]

My sore throat moved into my chest, plus a fever. Went to ER for chest 
x-ray.
Its not bad on the x-ray, but my chest is heavy and cold when cough. At 
least its moving, coughing it up. But its always a bit worrisome when in 
our chests.
Plus my allergies are supper bad now. I can't believe how much snot can 
be up there. I think I blow 3 head fulls of snot a day. Switch from 
tissues to paper towels to handle the excessive snot.


Greg

[QUAD-L] Sore Throat

[Greg]

I hate sore throats, 2 days now, but its finely going away.
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Randy Anderson]

Possibly from "long"weight shifts, with your legs up? Napping? :-) :-)
Putting more pressure on the calf pad?

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Greg  wrote:

> Just found a 1 inch round sore on my calf.
> I check all the time, it must have happened fast. It barely touches my
> calf pad but not much weight. It more like leans on it. It a new chair, the
> first month, nothing. Then it just showed up.
> Moved the pad back, so hoping it gets better soon.
> Greg
>

[QUAD-L] Sore

[Greg]

Just found a 1 inch round sore on my calf.
I check all the time, it must have happened fast. It barely touches my 
calf pad but not much weight. It more like leans on it. It a new chair, 
the first month, nothing. Then it just showed up.

Moved the pad back, so hoping it gets better soon.
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[Gail Holmes]

Those exact protein drinks are available at Sam's club as well as at Cosco, are 
a good price, and they even tastes good! 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
> 
> I recommend these protein drinks from costco. 30g of protein, low fat, low 
> sugar.
> http://www.costco.com/Premier-Protein-Shakes-11-oz-18-pk.product.100101297.html
> 
> Boost brand has high fruitous corn syrup last time I checked.
> 
> I also take 1000mg Vitamin C, 3 times/day
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:46 PM, William Lang III  
>> wrote:
>> Same wound on my ishial, caused by shearing,i.e., my mattress is made up 
>> with air pockets and the bed has multiple movement settings. If I bring my 
>> head up without raising my feet first it causes a "shear" problem between my 
>> skin and skeleton. Picture your skin as a sack that. Houses your skeleton.
>> 
>> Never had any breakdown until the VA gave me the bed. Also, I have a ROHO 
>> Contro Select cushion that has my ishial suspended over a hole so it 
>> provides pressure relief in that. Area.
>> 
>> Meds Iam using:
>> Santyl to disenffect the wound covered by  Mepilex change when necessary.
>> Once odorless I use Aquacel in the wound to close up. 
>> This works best for me. Your wound specialist knows better.
>> 
>> The FIRST THING IS TO STOP WHATEVER IS. CAUSING THE PRESSURE.
>> 
>> GOOD LUCK
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Lang via IPAD HD
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 18:43, DAVID LEWIS  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing 
>>> because im always on it.
>>> My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at times by shifting my 
>>> hips side to side.
>>> Even when im sleeping on my back i have to do that.
>>> He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order one.
>>> Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used.
>>> Thanks alot.
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[Jim Lubin]

I recommend these protein drinks from costco. 30g of protein, low fat, low
sugar.
http://www.costco.com/Premier-Protein-Shakes-11-oz-18-pk.product.100101297.html

Boost brand has high fruitous corn syrup last time I checked.

I also take 1000mg Vitamin C, 3 times/day

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:46 PM, William Lang III 
wrote:

> Same wound on my ishial, caused by shearing,i.e., my mattress is made up
> with air pockets and the bed has multiple movement settings. If I bring my
> head up without raising my feet first it causes a "shear" problem between
> my skin and skeleton. Picture your skin as a sack that. Houses your
> skeleton.
>
> Never had any breakdown until the VA gave me the bed. Also, I have a ROHO
> Contro Select cushion that has my ishial suspended over a hole so it
> provides pressure relief in that. Area.
>
> Meds Iam using:
> Santyl to disenffect the wound covered by  Mepilex change when necessary.
> Once odorless I use Aquacel in the wound to close up.
> This works best for me. Your wound specialist knows better.
>
> The FIRST THING IS TO STOP WHATEVER IS. CAUSING THE PRESSURE.
>
> GOOD LUCK
>
>
> Bill Lang via IPAD HD
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 18:43, DAVID LEWIS  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing
> because im always on it.
> My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at times by shifting my
> hips side to side.
> Even when im sleeping on my back i have to do that.
> He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order one.
> Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used.
> Thanks alot.
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[William Lang III]

Same wound on my ishial, caused by shearing,i.e., my mattress is made up with 
air pockets and the bed has multiple movement settings. If I bring my head up 
without raising my feet first it causes a "shear" problem between my skin and 
skeleton. Picture your skin as a sack that. Houses your skeleton.

Never had any breakdown until the VA gave me the bed. Also, I have a ROHO 
Contro Select cushion that has my ishial suspended over a hole so it provides 
pressure relief in that. Area.

Meds Iam using:
Santyl to disenffect the wound covered by  Mepilex change when necessary.
Once odorless I use Aquacel in the wound to close up. 
This works best for me. Your wound specialist knows better.

The FIRST THING IS TO STOP WHATEVER IS. CAUSING THE PRESSURE.

GOOD LUCK


Bill Lang via IPAD HD


> On Sep 21, 2016, at 18:43, DAVID LEWIS  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing because 
> im always on it.
> My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at times by shifting my hips 
> side to side.
> Even when im sleeping on my back i have to do that.
> He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order one.
> Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used.
> Thanks alot.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[Danny Hearn]

Like the others said vitamin c is good but also high protein drinks such as 
Boost are good also. Dan* 

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:46 PM, "cviewe...@aol.com" 
 wrote:
 

  I too had a pressure sore and the wound Doc said to keep off it. I spent 6 
months in bed and only got up once a week to go to the wound Doc. It finally 
did heal and I am back in my chair with a Roho cushion all the time.  Be sure 
and eat plenty of protein. I did not want to stay in bed either BUT the sore 
did heal,   Rose  In a message dated 9/21/2016 6:43:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
Time, curlyle...@verizon.net writes:
  Hi, i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing 
because im always on it. My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at 
times by shifting my hips side to side. Even when im sleeping on my back i have 
to do that. He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order 
one. Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used. Thanks 
alot.


   

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I take it and order it as well. They say you cant overdose on it. ron 

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:50 AM, Carolyn Boyles 
 wrote:
 

  Also be sure to get plenty of Vitamin C. If you're not on blood thinners or 
other prescription medications that would prohibit its use, then you need to 
take 6,000 mg a day. But don't get it from a grocery store or pharmacy. Find 
out what the most absorbable type of C is online (my memory escapes me at the 
moment) and get it from a vitamin specialty store. If you don't have one 
locally, Vitacost.com is a good place to buy supplements. Hope this helps.
  
 On 9/21/2016 9:46 PM, cviewe...@aol.com wrote:
  
 
 I too had a pressure sore and the wound Doc said to keep off it. I spent 6 
months in bed and only got up once a week to go to the wound Doc. It finally 
did heal and I am back in my chair with a Roho cushion all the time.  Be sure 
and eat plenty of protein. I did not want to stay in bed either BUT the sore 
did heal,   Rose      In a message dated 9/21/2016 6:43:58 P.M. Eastern 
Daylight Time, curlyle...@verizon.net writes: 
  Hi, i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing 
because im always on it. My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at 
times by shifting my hips side to side. Even when im sleeping on my back i have 
to do that. He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order 
one. Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used. Thanks 
alot.  
  
 

   

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[Carolyn Boyles]

Also be sure to get plenty of Vitamin C. If you're not on blood thinners 
or other prescription medications that would prohibit its use, then you 
need to take 6,000 mg a day. But don't get it from a grocery store or 
pharmacy. Find out what the most absorbable type of C is online (my 
memory escapes me at the moment) and get it from a vitamin specialty 
store. If you don't have one locally, Vitacost.com is a good place to 
buy supplements. Hope this helps.



On 9/21/2016 9:46 PM, cviewe...@aol.com wrote:
I too had a pressure sore and the wound Doc said to keep off it. I 
spent 6 months in bed and only got up once a week to go to the wound 
Doc. It finally did heal and I am back in my chair with a Roho cushion 
all the time.  Be sure and eat plenty of protein. I did not want to 
stay in bed either BUT the sore did heal,   Rose
In a message dated 9/21/2016 6:43:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:


Hi,
i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble
healing because im always on it.
My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at times by
shifting my hips side to side.
Even when im sleeping on my back i have to do that.
He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order one.
Can you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used.
Thanks alot.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[Cviewer62]

I too had a pressure sore and the wound Doc said to keep  off it. I spent 6 
months in bed and only got up once a week to go to  the wound Doc. It 
finally did heal and I am back in my chair with a Roho cushion  all the time.  
Be 
sure and eat plenty of protein. I did not want to stay in  bed either BUT 
the sore did heal,   Rose
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/21/2016 6:43:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:

 
Hi,
i have a sore starting  near my tailbone thats having trouble healing 
because im always on it.
My wound doc says i have  to relive the pressure at times by shifting my 
hips side to side.
Even when im sleeping on  my back i have to do that.
He said about a wedge. I  looked online but i think before i order one.
Can you guys please give  me some advice on what you use or used.
Thanks  alot.

[QUAD-L] Sore near my tailbone, got to stay off, need advice.

[DAVID LEWIS]

Hi,i have a sore starting near my tailbone thats having trouble healing because 
im always on it.My wound doc says i have to relive the pressure at times by 
shifting my hips side to side.Even when im sleeping on my back i have to do 
that.He said about a wedge. I looked online but i think before i order one.Can 
you guys please give me some advice on what you use or used.Thanks alot.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[Robert Vogel]

Hi David,

Larry Willis’s advice is right on the money—every point should be followed.

1. Ditch the egg-crate for a high profile Roho. Make sure it's high profile.
2. Stay off your butt as much as you can.
3. Consume as much protein as you can. Very important. Consider supplements.
4. See a nutritionist, have analysis done to see if you are short on any 
nutrient.
5. Keep seeing wound care folks so they can monitor.

Adding my two cents: When I was first injured, back in 85’, I asked for a ROHO, 
instead I was sent home
on a memory foam cushion.  Despite constant weight shifts, within 6 months I 
got a small pressure sore
(size of a pencil eraser) on my right ischium.  I spent three months staying 
off of
it and trying to heal it on my own-- with no improvement.  Then I got my doc to 
write a prescription for
a high profile ROHO, and referral to a wound care clinic.  The combination of 
the cushion and wound care
specialist got the sore to  heal within 1-month.

Now, 30 years post injury, my butt is skin and bones, plus I have a pelvic 
obliquity (my right ischium sits 1 1/2” higher
than my left)-- so bad that the left ischium gets red after sitting up in bed 
for a couple minutes.  I protect my skin by
using a ROHO Quadtro Select high profile cushion. Nightly mirror skin checks 
every show that the ROHO  protects
my skin, with no red areas.

Bob V



> On May 18, 2015, at 5:28 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Age, diet, smoker? and skin texture.  I hope your RN is certified in wound 
> care.
> I hope you continue to do well.
> Best Wishes
>  
> In a message dated 5/17/2015 4:09:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> curlyle...@verizon.net writes:
> I got a sore close to my tailbone.
> My nurse says cover it with gauze and put silverdine on it everyday. Which i 
> have.
> 
> What do you guys do when you get them?.
> I use like an egg crate foam on my chair and can lift myself at times up on 
> my elbows.
> Dont know why i got a breakdown.
> Give me some info please.
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[wheelchair]

Age, diet, smoker? and skin texture.  I hope your RN is certified in  wound 
care.
I hope you continue to do well.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/17/2015 4:09:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:

 
I got a sore close to my  tailbone.
My nurse says cover it with gauze and  put silverdine on it everyday. Which 
i have.


What do you guys do when you get  them?.
I use like an egg crate foam on my  chair and can lift myself at times up 
on my elbows.
Dont know why i got a breakdown.
Give me some info please.

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[Larry Willis]

Minimum daily requirement of protein is 50-60 grams.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: cviewe...@aol.com
> Date: May 17, 2015 at 5:24:17 PM EDT
> To: curlyle...@verizon.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.
> 
> I too had a pressure sore in the same place. I had to go to the wound center 
> every week they would  check it and  change the dressing.  I had to keep off 
> it by staying in bed most of the day...for 6 months. Also eat plenty of 
> protein, meat, eggs, almonds (any nuts) and drink water. It was awful but 
> yes, it finally cleared up. I sit on a Roho to avoid any more sores and it 
> has been over a year since I have any problems.  Rose
>  
> In a message dated 5/17/2015 5:09:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> curlyle...@verizon.net writes:
> I got a sore close to my tailbone.
> My nurse says cover it with gauze and put silverdine on it everyday. Which i 
> have.
> 
> What do you guys do when you get them?.
> I use like an egg crate foam on my chair and can lift myself at times up on 
> my elbows.
> Dont know why i got a breakdown.
> Give me some info please.
> 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[Larry Willis]

David, do these things.
1. Ditch the egg-crate for a high profile Roho. Make sure it's high profile.
2. Stay off your butt as much as you can.
3. Consume as much protein as you can. Very important. Consider supplements.
4. See a nutritionist, have analysis done to see if you are short on any 
nutrient.
5. Keep seeing wound care folks so they can monitor.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: cviewe...@aol.com
> Date: May 17, 2015 at 5:24:17 PM EDT
> To: curlyle...@verizon.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.
> 
> I too had a pressure sore in the same place. I had to go to the wound center 
> every week they would  check it and  change the dressing.  I had to keep off 
> it by staying in bed most of the day...for 6 months. Also eat plenty of 
> protein, meat, eggs, almonds (any nuts) and drink water. It was awful but 
> yes, it finally cleared up. I sit on a Roho to avoid any more sores and it 
> has been over a year since I have any problems.  Rose
>  
> In a message dated 5/17/2015 5:09:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> curlyle...@verizon.net writes:
> I got a sore close to my tailbone.
> My nurse says cover it with gauze and put silverdine on it everyday. Which i 
> have.
> 
> What do you guys do when you get them?.
> I use like an egg crate foam on my chair and can lift myself at times up on 
> my elbows.
> Dont know why i got a breakdown.
> Give me some info please.
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[Cviewer62]

I too had a pressure sore in the same place. I had to go to  the wound 
center every week they would  check it and  change the  dressing.  I had to 
keep 
off it by staying in bed most of the day...for 6  months. Also eat plenty 
of protein, meat, eggs, almonds (any nuts) and drink  water. It was awful but 
yes, it finally cleared up. I sit on a Roho to avoid any  more sores and it 
has been over a year since I have any problems.   Rose
 
 
In a message dated 5/17/2015 5:09:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:

 
I got a sore close to my  tailbone.
My nurse says cover it with gauze and  put silverdine on it everyday. Which 
i have.


What do you guys do when you get  them?.
I use like an egg crate foam on my  chair and can lift myself at times up 
on my elbows.
Dont know why i got a breakdown.
Give me some info please.

[QUAD-L] Sore on rear end.

[DAVID LEWIS]

I got a sore close to my tailbone.My nurse says cover it with gauze and put 
silverdine on it everyday. Which i have.
What do you guys do when you get them?.I use like an egg crate foam on my chair 
and can lift myself at times up on my elbows.Dont know why i got a 
breakdown.Give me some info please.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[wheelchair]

The/ A wound vac, is merely an instrument, hopefully in the hands of an  
artist is a great tool.  Besides the wound vac are various accessories that  
must be used.  The filters, the patches and powders. It all begins with the  
wound being properly debreded.
 
After the wound has been reduced and healing, a flap surgery procedure can  
be considered.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2014 10:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cviewe...@aol.com writes:

The VAC works for most sores but not on the butt from my experience...it  
made my sore worse.
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2014 8:24:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wheelch...@aol.com writes:

Hiya Gus.  You can't acquire a wound vac machine.   You must rent it with a 
doctor's order. Only those who specialize in wound  care and certified on 
the equipment can use it.
Wound Vac equipment, does very well in removing infections  while it closes 
the wound.
I don't know about the protocol in Mexico.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/17/2014 10:59:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gus...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi  all,

I have a sore in my buttock from 2 years ago but not closed,  recently 
acquired a roho cushion for help me.

I hear of the VAC  system.

What think about this?

I'm live in México, can  anyone help me to acquire it?

I'd like someone help me with  suggestiones.

Thanks

Enviado desde mi  iPod

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Cviewer62]

The VAC works for most sores but not on the butt from my experience...it  
made my sore worse.
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2014 8:24:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wheelch...@aol.com writes:

Hiya Gus.  You can't acquire a wound vac machine.  You  must rent it with a 
doctor's order. Only those who specialize in wound care  and certified on 
the equipment can use it.
Wound Vac equipment, does very well in removing infections while  it closes 
the wound.
I don't know about the protocol in Mexico.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/17/2014 10:59:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gus...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi  all,

I have a sore in my buttock from 2 years ago but not closed,  recently 
acquired a roho cushion for help me.

I hear of the VAC  system.

What think about this?

I'm live in México, can anyone  help me to acquire it?

I'd like someone help me with  suggestiones.

Thanks

Enviado desde mi  iPod

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[wheelchair]

Hiya Gus.  You can't acquire a wound vac machine.  You  must rent it with a 
doctor's order. Only those who specialize in wound care and  certified on 
the equipment can use it.
Wound Vac equipment, does very well in removing infections while it  closes 
the wound.
I don't know about the protocol in Mexico.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/17/2014 10:59:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gus...@hotmail.com writes:

Hi  all,

I have a sore in my buttock from 2 years ago but not closed,  recently 
acquired a roho cushion for help me.

I hear of the VAC  system.

What think about this?

I'm live in México, can anyone  help me to acquire it?

I'd like someone help me with  suggestiones.

Thanks

Enviado desde mi  iPod

[QUAD-L] Sore

[Gustavo Ortiz Estrada]

Hi all,

I have a sore in my buttock from 2 years ago but not closed, recently acquired 
a roho cushion for help me.

I hear of the VAC system.

What think about this?

I'm live in México, can anyone help me to acquire it?

I'd like someone help me with suggestiones.

Thanks

Enviado desde mi iPod

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore mouth

[wheelchair]

Thanks for the info.  Is that Peter Pan Crunchy or Smooth?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2013 3:56:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
gah17...@aol.com writes:

I ask about anyone getting sore mouth from ditropan.
 
I happened onto something by chance.  I need to eat a snack
with one med at night.  Sometime that would be peanut butter
toast.  The peanut butter would also sooth my sore mouth.
 
I am now taking a small amount of PB, maybe the size of 
2 tylenol and let it melt in my mouth a few times day.
It seems to work well for me, but found that too much
PB has the opposite effect.
 

Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry  Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA  17582

[QUAD-L] Sore mouth

[Gah17582]

I ask about anyone getting sore mouth from ditropan.
 
I happened onto something by chance.  I need to eat a snack
with one med at night.  Sometime that would be peanut butter
toast.  The peanut butter would also sooth my sore mouth.
 
I am now taking a small amount of PB, maybe the size of 
2 tylenol and let it melt in my mouth a few times day.
It seems to work well for me, but found that too much
PB has the opposite effect.
 

Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry  Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA  17582

Re: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[Quadius]

I occasionally get a sore throat in the morning. I think this is probably
because of oxybutynin, which I take an extended release pill now. I've had
a lot more problem with a sore throat lately, but I just have some water
close by and sip a little bit. This usually takes care of it.


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM,  wrote:

> **
> Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
>
>
> Glenn Henry
>

Re: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[diannal767]

No, but very dry. I buy this gum from the Biotene line. (for dry mouth) which I 
use for chemo. very inexpensive. they also have toothpaste and mouthwash.
Dianna

Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?




-Original Message-
From: Gah17582 
To: quad-list 
Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 11:02 am
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore mouth



Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
 

Glenn Henry

Re: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[Cviewer62]

I have been taking first  ditropan then oxybutin for more than 32  years. 
and never a sore mouth. Rose
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2013 11:13:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
I take the generic type-- called oxybutinin but never have a sore  mouth 
from it. Dan H*



 
 

From:  "gah17...@aol.com" 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:02  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore  mouth



 
Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
 

Glenn Henry

Re: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[wheelchair]

Great Idea.  Thanks.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2013 2:06:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
diannal...@aol.com writes:

No, but very dry. I buy this gum from the Biotene line. (for dry mouth)  
which I use for chemo. very inexpensive. they also have toothpaste and  
mouthwash.
Dianna
 
Does  anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?




-Original  Message-
From: Gah17582 
To: quad-list  
Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 11:02 am
Subject:  [QUAD-L] sore mouth


 
Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
 

Glenn Henry

Re: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[Danny Hearn]

I take the generic type-- called oxybutinin but never have a sore mouth from 
it. Dan H*

 


 From: "gah17...@aol.com" 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:02 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore mouth
  


 
Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan? 


Glenn Henry

Fwd: [QUAD-L] sore mouth

[lwillis821]

I do, Glenn. And it becomes extremely sensitive. Toothpaste or even cold water 
burn my tongue. I limit my dosage to avoid it.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: gah17...@aol.com
> Date: September 20, 2013, 11:02:28 AM EDT
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: [QUAD-L] sore mouth
> 
> Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
>  
> 
> Glenn Henry

[QUAD-L] sore mouth

[Gah17582]

Does anyone get a sore mouth from Ditropan?
 

Glenn Henry

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Throat

[wheelchair]

Its easier to advise you, what you should have done, but a moving/active  
body heals faster than one that is not as active.  That being said, rest  and 
liquids are important.  If you were provided with medicine, take it all  
until all signs of your Bronchitis are gone.  Be careful and don't forget  
your shots in the future.  Take Care
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2013 7:29:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

My sore  throat turned into a totally stuffed up nose, then a sore chest, 
now coughing  up green junk. I went into the clinic an thy said Bronchitis. 
But she thought  it best to just to treat it as pneumonia too. My mother had 
Bronchitis, but it  was gone pretty much by the time I got it. And she 
stayed pretty much away  from me. That stuff is easier to catch than the said 
it 
was. I missed my  pneumonia shot lately too.   Greg

[QUAD-L] Sore Throat

[greg]

My sore throat turned into a totally stuffed up nose, then a sore chest, now 
coughing up green junk. I went into the clinic an thy said Bronchitis. But she 
thought it best to just to treat it as pneumonia too. My mother had Bronchitis, 
but it was gone pretty much by the time I got it. And she stayed pretty much 
away from me. That stuff is easier to catch than the said it was. I missed my 
pneumonia shot lately too.  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Quadius]

what type of allergy do you have to vancomycin? I get red man syndrome.
They should really only be using drug if everything else has failed.
Quadius


Aug 2, 2012 at 2:44 AM,  wrote:

> **
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have had a horrific sore on my heel for two months with a wound vacuum,
> two weeks ago I had a skin graft and I've had to keep my heel offset, since
> May 4, when the surgeon left the external fixater on my heel too tight and
> did not check for seven days after foot drop surgery. I lost some of my
> heel, the plastic surgeon calls it a divet. My orthotist made 2 really
> great apparatuses, one to wear in BED and one to wear in my wheelchair. I
> wish you would put them on the market. It would be so beneficial for anyone
> with heel problems.
>
> I will try to get my friend to take pictures so you can see what was made.
> They work wonderfully.
>
> The company my orthotist works for is hangar's, and I don't know if they
> are nationwide. No one at KU could figure out what to do. The OT's for the
> orthotist that KU used which was the same company. This orthotist is just
> really intuitive.
>
> I hope you're orthotist can copy something like I have. Medicare paid for
> this. My caregiver burned my hand and wrist into hot water. Second degree
> burns, it's going to take a lot long time to heal. I go to the plastic
> surgeon each Monday. He doesn't think it will need a skin graft. I would
> appreciate your prayers.
>
>
> I'm glad to be back at home and able to read the quad list.
> Dana
> C4-5, I had my 38 th anniversary last Thursday, while in the hospital for
> UTI. I seem to be having a lot of UTI problems, I have a ileal conduit
> since 1986 as a result of bladder cancer. Suburb close to Kansas City on
> the Kansas side.
>
> I had a septic UTI in May and the infectious disease doctors talked about
> putting me on a antibiotic daily but they said if one take away another
> antibiotic to be used when I have a UTI, so they decided not to do. Last
> week I found I had an allergic reaction to vancomycin, another drug they
> cannot use now. I wish they could come up with a better way to treat and
> prevent UTIs. What do others do with this problem?
>
>  In a message dated 7/28/2012 6:25:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> ber...@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>   Hi Paul,
> I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with
> saline between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next.
> I also keep it elevated since at night as a precaution.
>
> Patrick C6-7 22yrs
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net * wrote:
>
>
> From: ppac...@comcast.net 
> Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM
>
>  Hi Everyone,
>
> I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like to
> ask you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?
>
> Thank you!
> Paul
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Mandy]

Hangar is nationwide (I think they're worldwide, actually). I had a brace made 
by them at the Englewood, CO office and just as you said, the orthotist I had 
was also intuitive. He was also pleasant, caring, and put me at ease right 
away. Not to mention he had cute dimples. :D

Prayers coming your way. Good grief...sounds like you've been through enough 
lately!

Mandy

On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:44 AM, daa...@aol.com wrote:

>  
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I have had a horrific sore on my heel for two months with a wound vacuum, two 
> weeks ago I had a skin graft and I've had to keep my heel offset, since May 
> 4, when the surgeon left the external fixater on my heel too tight and did 
> not check for seven days after foot drop surgery. I lost some of my heel, the 
> plastic surgeon calls it a divet. My orthotist made 2 really great 
> apparatuses, one to wear in BED and one to wear in my wheelchair. I wish you 
> would put them on the market. It would be so beneficial for anyone with heel 
> problems. 
> 
> I will try to get my friend to take pictures so you can see what was made. 
> They work wonderfully.
> 
> The company my orthotist works for is hangar's, and I don't know if they are 
> nationwide. No one at KU could figure out what to do. The OT's for the 
> orthotist that KU used which was the same company. This orthotist is just 
> really intuitive.
> 
> I hope you're orthotist can copy something like I have. Medicare paid for 
> this. My caregiver burned my hand and wrist into hot water. Second degree 
> burns, it's going to take a lot long time to heal. I go to the plastic 
> surgeon each Monday. He doesn't think it will need a skin graft. I would 
> appreciate your prayers.
> 
> 
> I'm glad to be back at home and able to read the quad list.
> Dana
> C4-5, I had my 38 th anniversary last Thursday, while in the hospital for 
> UTI. I seem to be having a lot of UTI problems, I have a ileal conduit since 
> 1986 as a result of bladder cancer. Suburb close to Kansas City on the Kansas 
> side.
> 
> I had a septic UTI in May and the infectious disease doctors talked about 
> putting me on a antibiotic daily but they said if one take away another 
> antibiotic to be used when I have a UTI, so they decided not to do. Last week 
> I found I had an allergic reaction to vancomycin, another drug they cannot 
> use now. I wish they could come up with a better way to treat and prevent 
> UTIs. What do others do with this problem?
> 
> In a message dated 7/28/2012 6:25:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> ber...@sbcglobal.net writes:
> Hi Paul,
> I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with 
> saline between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I 
> also keep it elevated since at night as a precaution.
> 
> Patrick C6-7 22yrs 
> 
> --- On Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net  wrote:
> 
> From: ppac...@comcast.net 
> Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like to 
> ask you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?
> 
> Thank you!
> Paul
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[DAANOO]

Hi Paul,

I have had a horrific sore on my heel for two months with a  wound vacuum, 
two weeks ago I had a skin graft and I've had to keep my heel  offset, since 
May 4, when the surgeon left the external fixater on my heel too  tight and 
did not check for seven days after foot drop surgery. I lost some of  my 
heel, the plastic surgeon calls it a divet. My orthotist made 2 really great  
apparatuses, one to wear in BED and one to wear in my wheelchair. I wish you 
 would put them on the market. It would be so beneficial for anyone with 
heel  problems. 

I will try to get my friend to take pictures so you can see  what was made. 
They work wonderfully.

The company my orthotist works for  is hangar's, and I don't know if they 
are nationwide. No one at KU could figure  out what to do. The OT's for the 
orthotist that KU used which was the same  company. This orthotist is just 
really intuitive.

I hope you're orthotist  can copy something like I have. Medicare paid for 
this. My caregiver burned my  hand and wrist into hot water. Second degree 
burns, it's going to take a lot  long time to heal. I go to the plastic 
surgeon each Monday. He doesn't think it  will need a skin graft. I would 
appreciate your prayers.


I'm glad to  be back at home and able to read the quad list.
Dana
C4-5, I had my 38 th  anniversary last Thursday, while in the hospital for 
UTI. I seem to be having a  lot of UTI problems, I have a ileal conduit 
since 1986 as a result of bladder  cancer. Suburb close to Kansas City on the 
Kansas side.

I had a septic  UTI in May and the infectious disease doctors talked about 
putting me on a  antibiotic daily but they said if one take away another 
antibiotic to be used  when I have a UTI, so they decided not to do. Last week 
I found I had an  allergic reaction to vancomycin, another drug they cannot 
use now. I wish they  could come up with a better way to treat and prevent 
UTIs. What do others do  with this problem?



In a message dated 7/28/2012 6:25:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ber...@sbcglobal.net writes:

  Hi Paul,
I had one last year and kept it elevated  during sleep. Irrigated it with 
saline between showers. I used  Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I 
also keep it elevated  since at night as a precaution.

Patrick C6-7 22yrs 

--- On  Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net   wrote:


From:  ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: [QUAD-L]  sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012,  2:25 PM

  
 
Hi  Everyone,  


I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I  would like to 
ask you all which is your first line of defense when  this happens?

Thank  you!
Paul

RE: [QUAD-L] sore

[Daniel Espinoza]

Additionally you should keep your heels and ankles elevated with either heel
lifts or pillows under your ankles...  I'm surprised it's on your ankle and
not your heel.

While its healing try to either keep all pressure off it or rotate pressure
elsewhere by turning. 

It's easier to prevent skin breakdown than it is for it to heal, you should
try to make it a routine to check for early signs of pressure sores or if
you're like me a c2 quad have a caregiver or family member check daily. My
cargivers do it while I do my range of motion exercises.

 

 

Danny

 

 

 

 

From: ~LittleQuad~ [mailto:littleq...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:26 AM
To: Quad-list post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

 

Keep all pressure off of it at night. Put little pads where it won't be on
bed. 
LQ

~LittleQuad~
Sent from my BlackBerry

  _  

From: "Eric W Rudd"  

Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:39:19 -0500

To: 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

 

& find the source & relieve it

 

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

 

From: Patrick Kenneally <mailto:ber...@sbcglobal.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:24 PM

To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; ppac...@comcast.net 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

 


Hi Paul,
I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with
saline between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I
also keep it elevated since at night as a precaution.

Patrick C6-7 22yrs 

--- On Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net  wrote:


From: ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM

Hi Everyone, 

 

I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like to
ask you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?

Thank you!
Paul

 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[~LittleQuad~]

Keep all pressure off of it at night. Put little pads where it won't be on bed. 
LQ

~LittleQuad~
Sent from my BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Eric W Rudd" 
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:39:19 
To: 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

& find the source & relieve it

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

From: Patrick Kenneally 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:24 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

  Hi Paul,
  I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with 
saline between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I 
also keep it elevated since at night as a precaution.

  Patrick C6-7 22yrs 

  --- On Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net  wrote:


From: ppac...@comcast.net 
    Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM


Hi Everyone, 

I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like 
to ask you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?


Thank you!
Paul

 

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Eric W Rudd]

& find the source & relieve it

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

From: Patrick Kenneally 
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 6:24 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

  Hi Paul,
  I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with 
saline between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I 
also keep it elevated since at night as a precaution.

  Patrick C6-7 22yrs 

  --- On Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net  wrote:


From: ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM


Hi Everyone, 

I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like 
to ask you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?


Thank you!
Paul

 

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Patrick Kenneally]

Hi Paul,
I had one last year and kept it elevated during sleep. Irrigated it with saline 
between showers. I used Bacitracin one day and Dermawound the next. I also keep 
it elevated since at night as a precaution.

Patrick C6-7 22yrs 

--- On Sat, 7/28/12, ppac...@comcast.net  wrote:

From: ppac...@comcast.net 
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, July 28, 2012, 2:25 PM

#yiv1196588905 p {margin:0;}Hi Everyone,
I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like to ask 
you all which is your first line of defense when this happens?

Thank you!
Paul

[QUAD-L] sore

[ppacera]

Hi Everyone, 


I just had a small pressure sore open up on my right ankle.I would like to ask 
you all which is your first line of defense when this happens? 


Thank you! 
Paul 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Larry Willis]

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Larry Willis 
> Date: July 23, 2012 10:45:01 AM EDT
> To: greg 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore
> 

> Yes. The vac applies constant suction on the new growth and sort of forces it 
> to grow faster. My problem was keeping the bandage sealed. It's hard to keep 
> a seal on awkward spots like the top of your butt crack. The vac is very 
> effective when working properly.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:35 PM, greg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Thanks.
>> I'm trying to increase my protein. I can't stand the drinks, but do make 
>> fruit smooties. I also make peanut butter cookies using powder instead of 
>> flower.
>> My wound does not drain much, would a vac still help?
>> Thanks, Greg
>> 
>> 
>>> Greg, make sure you are getting a truck load of protein every day
>>> along with other vitamins etc. Get at least 60 g. If possible. The
>>> nutritionist made a dosage chart for me and it made a big
>>> difference getting my butt wounds healed. The wound vac was a big
>>> help too. Good luck, my friend.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>> From: Quadius 
>>>> Date: July 18, 2012 5:25:54 PM EDT
>>>> To: greg 
>>>> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Sorry to hear that Greg.
>>>> 
>>>> What type of chair are you using? I have had difficulty with my
>>>> chair and had someone specially manufacture a gel pad at the
>>>> bottom is not supposed to degrade, but I am still having some
>>>> difficulties with getting red areas.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm in a Permobil and I hate the back of the chair. I had used a
>>>> LaBac for about 14 years and it had a three or four inch high
>>>> section at the bottom where the bottom was completely open. The
>>>> design had its problems, but my tailbone area always looked
>>>> pristine.
>>>> 
>>>> I sincerely hope you're able to get something to help with your
>>>> problem. Q
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM, greg  wrote:
>>>> It's a year now since I got my butt sore, well, just next to my
>>>> tailbone. I can't recall the exact numbers, something like 2.5 cn
>>>> x .6 cn.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> It was not too deep, but then tunneled towards 1 o'clock. It
>>>>> slowly healed about half way in 8 month. Then within a week it
>>>>> just went back to the beginning.
>>> We pack it with Collagen AG. We tried a few different things, but
>>> nothing is helping. I assumed the sore was from sleeping on that
>>> side yet changing sides has not helped. Then we thought it had to
>>> be from the back of my chair. The padding was flat and the bottom
>>> of the chair's back was real hard. I got a new pad and lowered my
>>> cushion so the sore area now does not touch the back. There is now
>>> a 2 inch gap between the top of the cushion and the bottom of the
>>> chair's back.
>>> 
>>>>> Yet this sore just will not heal up. The doc is suggesting
>>>>> starting to think of surgery.
>>> He thinks it might have started as a Pilonidalcyst, but there was
>>> never an infection or anything.
>>> Very frustrating.
>>> 
>>> Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Monty]

sounds like a bone infection and have many of them over the years. A simple 
blood test can tell if your blood count is off and also possibly taking of the 
area itself. I spent over two years to convince my doctor about a bone 
infection but did not listen to me! I located some doctors a couple hours away 
and they quickly determined that I had a bad bone infection. No surgery on the 
outside area is going to keep it closed, if there is infection in the bone. Any 
other questions feel free to ask and yes it took surgery to resolve my issues



 From: greg 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore
 
It's a year now since I got my butt sore, well, just next to my tailbone. I 
can't recall the exact numbers, something like 2.5 cn x .6 cn.
It was not too deep, but then tunneled towards 1 o'clock. It slowly healed 
about half way in 8 month. Then within a week it just went back to the 
beginning.
We pack it with Collagen AG. We tried a few different things, but nothing is 
helping.
I assumed the sore was from sleeping on that side yet changing sides has not 
helped.
Then we thought it had to be from the back of my chair. The padding was flat 
and the bottom of the chair's back was real hard. I got a new pad and lowered 
my cushion so the sore area now does not touch the back. There is now a 2 inch 
gap between the top of the cushion and the bottom of the chair's back.
Yet this sore just will not heal up. The doc is suggesting starting to think of 
surgery.
He thinks it might have started as a Pilonidalcyst, but there was never an 
infection or anything.
Very frustrating.

Greg

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Larry Willis]

Greg, make sure you are getting a truck load of protein every day along with 
other vitamins etc. Get at least 60 g. If possible. The nutritionist made a 
dosage chart for me and it made a big difference getting my butt wounds healed. 
The wound vac was a big help too. Good luck, my friend.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Quadius 
> Date: July 18, 2012 5:25:54 PM EDT
> To: greg 
> Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore
> 

> Sorry to hear that Greg.
> 
> What type of chair are you using? I have had difficulty with my chair and had 
> someone specially manufacture a gel pad at the bottom is not supposed to 
> degrade, but I am still having some difficulties with getting red areas.
> 
> I'm in a Permobil and I hate the back of the chair. I had used a LaBac for 
> about 14 years and it had a three or four inch high section at the bottom 
> where the bottom was completely open. The design had its problems, but my 
> tailbone area always looked pristine.
> 
> I sincerely hope you're able to get something to help with your problem.
> Q
> 
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM, greg  wrote:
> It's a year now since I got my butt sore, well, just next to my tailbone. I 
> can't recall the exact numbers, something like 2.5 cn x .6 cn.
> It was not too deep, but then tunneled towards 1 o'clock. It slowly healed 
> about half way in 8 month. Then within a week it just went back to the 
> beginning.
> We pack it with Collagen AG. We tried a few different things, but nothing is 
> helping.
> I assumed the sore was from sleeping on that side yet changing sides has not 
> helped.
> Then we thought it had to be from the back of my chair. The padding was flat 
> and the bottom of the chair's back was real hard. I got a new pad and lowered 
> my cushion so the sore area now does not touch the back. There is now a 2 
> inch gap between the top of the cushion and the bottom of the chair's back.
> Yet this sore just will not heal up. The doc is suggesting starting to think 
> of surgery.
> He thinks it might have started as a Pilonidalcyst, but there was never an 
> infection or anything.
> Very frustrating.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Quadius]

Sorry to hear that Greg.

What type of chair are you using? I have had difficulty with my chair and
had someone specially manufacture a gel pad at the bottom is not supposed
to degrade, but I am still having some difficulties with getting red areas.

I'm in a Permobil and I hate the back of the chair. I had used a LaBac for
about 14 years and it had a three or four inch high section at the bottom
where the bottom was completely open. The design had its problems, but my
tailbone area always looked pristine.

I sincerely hope you're able to get something to help with your problem.
Q

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:10 PM, greg  wrote:

> It's a year now since I got my butt sore, well, just next to my tailbone.
> I can't recall the exact numbers, something like 2.5 cn x .6 cn.
> It was not too deep, but then tunneled towards 1 o'clock. It slowly healed
> about half way in 8 month. Then within a week it just went back to the
> beginning.
> We pack it with Collagen AG. We tried a few different things, but nothing
> is helping.
> I assumed the sore was from sleeping on that side yet changing sides has
> not helped.
> Then we thought it had to be from the back of my chair. The padding was
> flat and the bottom of the chair's back was real hard. I got a new pad and
> lowered my cushion so the sore area now does not touch the back. There is
> now a 2 inch gap between the top of the cushion and the bottom of the
> chair's back.
> Yet this sore just will not heal up. The doc is suggesting starting to
> think of surgery.
> He thinks it might have started as a Pilonidalcyst, but there was never an
> infection or anything.
> Very frustrating.
>
> Greg
>
>

[QUAD-L] Sore

[greg]

It's a year now since I got my butt sore, well, just next to my tailbone. I 
can't recall the exact numbers, something like 2.5 cn x .6 cn.
It was not too deep, but then tunneled towards 1 o'clock. It slowly healed 
about half way in 8 month. Then within a week it just went back to the 
beginning.
We pack it with Collagen AG. We tried a few different things, but nothing is 
helping.
I assumed the sore was from sleeping on that side yet changing sides has not 
helped.
Then we thought it had to be from the back of my chair. The padding was flat 
and the bottom of the chair's back was real hard. I got a new pad and lowered 
my cushion so the sore area now does not touch the back. There is now a 2 inch 
gap between the top of the cushion and the bottom of the chair's back.
Yet this sore just will not heal up. The doc is suggesting starting to think of 
surgery.
He thinks it might have started as a Pilonidalcyst, but there was never an 
infection or anything.
Very frustrating.

Greg

FW: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Merrill]

If you do have  yeast infection going on, it may already be in your bladder.
This will feel like a bad UTI.  Prescribed Deflican works.

 

Merrill

 

  _  

From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:48 PM
To: merril...@cox.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

Greg,

 

Merrill is probably right.  Yeast infection.  I've had that once before too.

I don't believe I took antibiotics, but I did use a prescription anti-fungal
cream.

You should definitely see your doctor as soon as you can, but until then try
using an over-the-counter antifungal cream or ointment.

It won't clear things up, but might keep it in check until your doctor can
prescribe something stronger.

 

Also, there are natural antifungals, if you want to start down that route.
I was drinking grapefruit seed extract [GSE]

for a while, but it's so bitter that it's literally difficult to swallow.

 

Get well soon,

Don.

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[John S.]

Did you ever try creamy desitin?

John
PS. It works when I get red



From: Greg 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:11:37 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas


My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is seeping 
red. I’ve tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going commando, wearing 
sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It’s bad enough now I might go to the doctor 
to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying outside in the rea 
hot heat. I’ve not been out as much, but maybe I just need to stay in for 
awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up my pants :-)
Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and 
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole area 
around it is loosing color, kind of grey.
 
My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.
 
Greg


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Steve Crowder]

Look into getting a prescription for Elidel. It may be just what you need.

Yours truly, Steve Crowder a.k.a. Nick Danger
Www.SurvivingParalysis.com
dangerwo...@san.rr.com
(858) 451-8686
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:11 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas


  My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is seeping 
red. I've tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going commando, wearing 
sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It's bad enough now I might go to the doctor 
to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying outside in the rea 
hot heat. I've not been out as much, but maybe I just need to stay in for 
awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up my pants :-)

  Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and 
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole area 
around it is loosing color, kind of grey.

   

  My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.

   

  Greg

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[wheelchair]

High bacteria will do that, often caused by a combination of humidity, dark 
 areas of the body and human body fluids.  By all means, let your doctor  
know and if you can take a picture of the affected area and forward it to 
your  doctor... it won't hurt.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 9/20/2009 2:59:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
merril...@cox.net writes:

 
It may do you well to  see your doctor.  Sure sounds like a yeast  
infection. 
Merill 
 
  

 
From: Greg  [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:12  AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore  Areas
My crotch area is really getting  tender. Bad enough the whole area is 
seeping red. I’ve tried everything.  Covering with gauze pads, going commando, 
wearing sweats or shorts instead of  jeans. It’s bad enough now I might go to 
the doctor to get it looked at. My  next step will be not staying outside 
in the rea hot heat. I’ve not been  out as much, but maybe I just need to 
stay in for awhile. I need some kind of  tube blowing cool dry air up my 
pants :-) 
Plus, now my SP cath area is  looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and 
prowding, that can be fixed with  the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole 
area around it is loosing color, kind  of grey. 
My body is just falling apart  after too many years as a quad. 
Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Don Price]

Greg,

Merrill is probably right.  Yeast infection.  I've had that once before too.
I don't believe I took antibiotics, but I did use a prescription anti-fungal 
cream.
You should definitely see your doctor as soon as you can, but until then try 
using an over-the-counter antifungal cream or ointment.
It won't clear things up, but might keep it in check until your doctor can 
prescribe something stronger.

Also, there are natural antifungals, if you want to start down that route.  I 
was drinking grapefruit seed extract [GSE]
for a while, but it's so bitter that it's literally difficult to swallow.

Get well soon,
Don.

FW: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Merrill]

I am familiar with bad inner thigh yeast infections.  If in the previous
weeks you have taken antibiotics, you probably do have it.  Eat lots of
vitamin C with acidifiers.  Get the prescription from your doctor.

Merrill  

 

  _  

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:18 PM
To: merril...@cox.net
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

Hi, that might be, never thought about that.

I do get those in my pee sometimes. Never had one like that though. Thanks

Greg

 

  _  

From: Merrill [mailto:merril...@cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:59 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

It may do you well to see your doctor.  Sure sounds like a yeast infection.

 

Merill

 

  _  

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:12 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is
seeping red. I've tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going
commando, wearing sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It's bad enough now I
might go to the doctor to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying
outside in the rea hot heat. I've not been out as much, but maybe I just
need to stay in for awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up
my pants :-)

Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole
area around it is loosing color, kind of grey.

 

My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.

 

Greg

FW: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Merrill]

It may do you well to see your doctor.  Sure sounds like a yeast infection.

 

Merill

 

  _  

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:12 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is
seeping red. I've tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going
commando, wearing sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It's bad enough now I
might go to the doctor to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying
outside in the rea hot heat. I've not been out as much, but maybe I just
need to stay in for awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up
my pants :-)

Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole
area around it is loosing color, kind of grey.

 

My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.

 

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Danny Hearn]

I hear ya Greg, getting older as a quad is super tough!  compared to now my 1st 
10 years was pure heaven  lol  -- my nerve pain-bladder-body pain is so bad at 
times, I wonder how I will make it if it keeps getting worse, I try to stay 
possitive and not dwell on it too much, get sick of all the meds but gotta take 
em. These ole" human bodies are not made to last foreverhopefully our 
spirit bodies will though huh ??  Patrick Swazey= hope your at peace--- ( he 
said he was wandering about the after-life before he died.)   Dan H.

--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Greg  wrote:


From: Greg 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 12:11 PM








My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is seeping 
red. I’ve tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going commando, wearing 
sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It’s bad enough now I might go to the doctor 
to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying outside in the rea 
hot heat. I’ve not been out as much, but maybe I just need to stay in for 
awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up my pants :-)
Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and 
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole area 
around it is loosing color, kind of grey.
 
My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.
 
Greg

RE: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Steve Oldaker]

Greg,

 

One thing I do any time I am in bed is lay frog legged and have a small
portable fan directed at my groin area. This helps dry and keep dry any
moisture that may accumulate in this area. I use rechargeable batteries in
the fan to reduce cost.

 

Steve - C4, 21 years

 

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:12 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore Areas

 

My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is
seeping red. I've tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going
commando, wearing sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It's bad enough now I
might go to the doctor to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying
outside in the rea hot heat. I've not been out as much, but maybe I just
need to stay in for awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up
my pants :-)

Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole
area around it is loosing color, kind of grey.

 

My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.

 

Greg

[QUAD-L] Sore Areas

[Greg]

My crotch area is really getting tender. Bad enough the whole area is
seeping red. I've tried everything. Covering with gauze pads, going
commando, wearing sweats or shorts instead of jeans. It's bad enough now I
might go to the doctor to get it looked at. My next step will be not staying
outside in the rea hot heat. I've not been out as much, but maybe I just
need to stay in for awhile. I need some kind of tube blowing cool dry air up
my pants :-)

Plus, now my SP cath area is looking real bad. Not just the bleeding and
prowding, that can be fixed with the silver nitrate sticks. But the whole
area around it is loosing color, kind of grey.

 

My body is just falling apart after too many years as a quad.

 

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on tail bone

[John S.]

!st, you must get off that spot. Rolling or propping somehow untill you can get 
a low air loss mattress. While your off of it you may want to start with some 
triple anti-biotic ointment. If the skin is not open, you can go to 
hydrocortizone creme. Do not sit on Underpads! 
I'd mention tripsin to your doctor if the wound is clean. 
Do not use hydrogen peroxide on the wound. If you can stand getting on your 
side, place a damp gauze patch on it and let it dry. You can speed drying by 
using a small fan. (simple wet to dry treatment) 
If you decide to try this, be sure to boil the water and let it cool. 
You might be able to reduce your breathing problem with proventil. 
I do wish you luck. Weekends are hard for me to get help too. 
Fortunately, everyone has a cam on their phone so, you can get a picture and 
see what your dealing with.

john 





From: Quadius 
To: c3q...@yahoo.ca
Cc: Quad-liST 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:37:04 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on tail bone

The only thing I can tell you is to get off your tail bone.  Talk to the VA and 
see if it's possible for you to get a low air loss mattress.  I had a friend of 
mine who was able to get one from them, but every VA is different.

If you have problems like I do, you need to make sure you're taking something 
to loosen the secretions in your chest.  Talk to your doctor about the generic 
form of guaifenesin.  It works wonders for me, but you have to drink quite a 
bit of fluid.

Take care and let me know if there's anything I can do to help.  I might be 
able ask some of my acquaintances here about your situation.
Q


On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Cullen  wrote:

I have been having a lot of secretions from my trac probably from desert pollen 
this Winter and now Spring. I have been sitting more upright in bed and in my 
chair to keep my airway clear. This morning during our daily butt check a 
weeping sore was found on my tail bone, this is unusual for me since I almost 
never have skin issues. It is Sat morning no VA sci unit open and no sci nurse 
to call. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to treat it until Mon.

I know, being a quad for almost 12 years I should know, but really, I just 
don't have skin issues and I don't want to be on my stomach for 6 weeks. 

Cullen
C3

 





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Quadius
C2-3 incomplete
13 years post injury



  

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on tail bone

[Quadius]

The only thing I can tell you is to get off your tail bone.  Talk to the VA
and see if it's possible for you to get a low air loss mattress.  I had a
friend of mine who was able to get one from them, but every VA is different.

If you have problems like I do, you need to make sure you're taking
something to loosen the secretions in your chest.  Talk to your doctor about
the generic form of guaifenesin.  It works wonders for me, but you have to
drink quite a bit of fluid.

Take care and let me know if there's anything I can do to help.  I might be
able ask some of my acquaintances here about your situation.
Q

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Cullen  wrote:

> I have been having a lot of secretions from my trac probably from desert
> pollen this Winter and now Spring. I have been sitting more upright in bed
> and in my chair to keep my airway clear. This morning during our daily butt
> check a weeping sore was found on my tail bone, this is unusual for me since
> I almost never have skin issues. It is Sat morning no VA sci unit open and
> no sci nurse to call. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to treat it
> until Mon.
>
> I know, being a quad for almost 12 years I should know, but really, I just
> don't have skin issues and I don't want to be on my stomach for 6 weeks.
>
> Cullen
> C3
>
>
>--
>
> *Yahoo! Canada Toolbar :* Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark
> your favourite sites. Download it now! 
>



-- 
Quadius
C2-3 incomplete
13 years post injury

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore on tail bone

[Fragile]

any chance you can get a low air loss mattress?

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Cullen  wrote:

> I have been having a lot of secretions from my trac probably from desert
> pollen this Winter and now Spring. I have been sitting more upright in bed
> and in my chair to keep my airway clear. This morning during our daily butt
> check a weeping sore was found on my tail bone, this is unusual for me since
> I almost never have skin issues. It is Sat morning no VA sci unit open and
> no sci nurse to call. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to treat it
> until Mon.
>
> I know, being a quad for almost 12 years I should know, but really, I just
> don't have skin issues and I don't want to be on my stomach for 6 weeks.
>
> Cullen
> C3
>
>
>--
>
> *Yahoo! Canada Toolbar :* Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark
> your favourite sites. Download it now! 
>

[QUAD-L] Sore on tail bone

[Cullen]

I have been having a lot of secretions from my trac probably from desert pollen 
this Winter and now Spring. I have been sitting more upright in bed and in my 
chair to keep my airway clear. This morning during our daily butt check a 
weeping sore was found on my tail bone, this is unusual for me since I almost 
never have skin issues. It is Sat morning no VA sci unit open and no sci nurse 
to call. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to treat it until Mon.

I know, being a quad for almost 12 years I should know, but really, I just 
don't have skin issues and I don't want to be on my stomach for 6 weeks. 

Cullen
C3




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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Eric W Rudd]

http://www.therohogroup.com/proper_adjustment.jsp

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com



  - Original Message - 
  From: Quadius 
  To: dav...@aol.com 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.


  My original cushion (13 years old now) is still my favorite one, but we have 
to fill it with air every day and allow it to go back to room level.

  I received a new high profile Roho a while ago and simply tried to put air in 
it and then let it get to where it was room level.  It just did not have the 
same amount of air as the older model.  Even though it's the exact same model, 
I sit significantly lower than I do in the older one.

  I have had a hard time getting the newer cushion properly adjusted.  I 
thought I had it and then I decided to let out a little more air.  
Unfortunately my legs started to splay too much and this tells me that the 
condition is improperly inflated.

  Does anyone know where the website is that demonstrates how to properly 
inflated these things?
  Quadius



  On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM,  wrote:

cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a smaller (tighter) cover 
allows you to have less air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a roho is to 
blow it up and let it sit open valve to room pressure.  then cork it up and put 
into a cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom out.  I've never had a 
pressure sore from sitting on a roho.
AZDAVE

Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
DAVEOCONNELL.COM 

In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
d...@unh.edu writes:
  What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose 
that would matter?

  Dan whose intrigued. 


  At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
   

Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 



From: William Willis [ mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year 
now. I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. 
I was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve 
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week 
and have done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a 
sore that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after 
they got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected 
and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed 
last year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has 
seen people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air 
in it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even 
more, I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves 
me unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.
 
Stacy
 



From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , 
like when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to 
put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it 
is gotten to a severe stage yet though .
 
 
 
ron c7
 
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn  wrote:

  From: Danny Hearn 

  Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

  To: quad-list@eskimo.com

  Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

  HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a 
bit low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore o

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Quadius]

My original cushion (13 years old now) is still my favorite one, but we have
to fill it with air every day and allow it to go back to room level.

I received a new high profile Roho a while ago and simply tried to put air
in it and then let it get to where it was room level.  It just did not have
the same amount of air as the older model.  Even though it's the exact same
model, I sit significantly lower than I do in the older one.

I have had a hard time getting the newer cushion properly adjusted.  I
thought I had it and then I decided to let out a little more air.
Unfortunately my legs started to splay too much and this tells me that the
condition is improperly inflated.

Does anyone know where the website is that demonstrates how to properly
inflated these things?
Quadius

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM,  wrote:

>  cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a smaller (tighter) cover
> allows you to have less air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a roho is
> to blow it up and let it sit open valve to room pressure.  then cork it up
> and put into a cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom out.  I've
> never had a pressure sore from sitting on a roho.
> AZDAVE
>
> Take the world in a love embrace
> Fire all of your guns at once
> And explode into space
> DAVEOCONNELL.COM <http://daveoconnell.com/>
>
>  In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> d...@unh.edu writes:
>
> What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that
> would matter?
>
> Dan whose intrigued.
>
>
> At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
>
>
> Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho
> regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a
> smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect
> nor are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
>
> Merrill
>
> --
>
> *From:* William Willis [ mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
>
>
> i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year
> now. I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and
> frustrating. I was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i
> can't relieve pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound
> clinic once a week and have done so since june 2007
> --
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
> From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
> To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
> I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a
> sore that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after
> they got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got
> infected and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I
> got fixed last year.
>
> When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has
> seen people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of
> air in it and pressure relief is being done.
>
> Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even
> more, I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that
> leaves me unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't
> gotten any new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious
> how you all do your pressure relief.
>
> Stacy
>
>
>  *From:* RONALD L PRACHT 
> *To:* ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
> hey dan,
> ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything ,
> like when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what
> to put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont
> think it is gotten to a severe stage yet though .
>
>
>
> ron c7
>
> --- On *Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn * wrote:
>  From: Danny Hearn 
> Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM
> HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a
> bit low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left
> side of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored
> bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it
> has not even opened up??? is la

Re: FW: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[John S.]

Your exactly right on the 1 inch from bottom at lowest point. with the quatro 
seat, you really should be sure it is locked. I have an aide that sits in it 
each morning because she knows what it should feel like. Anytime you get up and 
feel like you are low,, stop and check the roho.The worst thing about them is 
that I'm only sitting on three shots of air from their pump. A very small air 
loss can turn a roho into a disaster. 
As for your bum, get off it now and stay off untill the bruising either fades 
or your open a sore. Ask your doctor about using oxygen and maybe some 
hydrocortozone cream (2.5 strength at least) on the area three times a day. 
It is critical to shorten healing time by fast initial action. If you continue 
to put preasure on the area it is far more likely to lose more tissue to 
necrosys, god forbid that you lose any. 
Invite over some folks you know, deacons at church, whatever, the boredom 
sucks, but get off your butt!
Nows your chance to learn mouthstick artwork!
 
Best of luck, 
john 

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Merrill  wrote:

From: Merrill 
Subject: FW: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 8:42 PM








Sorry I could not say.  Right that it does support cushion fingers. Simply show 
pt what you have and request the next size down.  If you need to purchase this 
independently, you know how hard headed some pt people are, measure yours and 
request it from the vender.
MB
C5
 
There is no fine line to my inflation any longer.  My cushion is forgiving 
after so many years of success.  I put an inch give from where cushion bottoms 
out.  Sit on a hand to guestamate inflation.  Remember that this works for me 
with boney butt and no pressure relief but may not be correct for everyone.
 




From: t crook [mailto:onemofor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:25 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Dan
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 





Ditto on the being intrigued. 

I have a fine line between an over-inflated and under-inflated Roho (hi 
profile/quadro select); due to my skinny bum. The only thing I can think of on 
how a smaller cover would help, is, it would help hold the cells together from 
separating, which mine does and allows my bum to get closer to the bottom of 
the cushion.

So what size is your cushion Merrill, and the smaller cover?
Tim c5-c6 20 yrs. post

www.geocities.com/onemofortom

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:09 AM

What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that 
would matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
 


Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 



From: William Willis [ mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.
 
Stacy
 
 
From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruise

FW: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Merrill]

Sorry I could not say.  Right that it does support cushion fingers. Simply
show pt what you have and request the next size down.  If you need to
purchase this independently, you know how hard headed some pt people are,
measure yours and request it from the vender.

MB

C5

 

There is no fine line to my inflation any longer.  My cushion is forgiving
after so many years of success.  I put an inch give from where cushion
bottoms out.  Sit on a hand to guestamate inflation.  Remember that this
works for me with boney butt and no pressure relief but may not be correct
for everyone.

 

  _  

From: t crook [mailto:onemofor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:25 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Dan
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

 


Ditto on the being intrigued. 

I have a fine line between an over-inflated and under-inflated Roho (hi
profile/quadro select); due to my skinny bum. The only thing I can think of
on how a smaller cover would help, is, it would help hold the cells together
from separating, which mine does and allows my bum to get closer to the
bottom of the cushion.

So what size is your cushion Merrill, and the smaller cover?
Tim c5-c6 20 yrs. post

www.geocities.com/onemofortom

WhoopieKat.com <http://www.whoopiekat.com/> 

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:09 AM

What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that
would matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
 



Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect
nor are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 


  _  


From: William Willis [ <mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com>
mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now.
I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I
was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week
and have done so since june 2007


  _  


Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a
sore that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after
they got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got
infected and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I
got fixed last year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has
seen people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of
air in it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even
more, I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that
leaves me unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious
how you all do your pressure relief.
 
Stacy
 

 

From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything ,
like when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what
to put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont
think it is gotten to a severe stage yet though .
 
 
 
ron c7
 
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn  wrote:

From: Danny Hearn 

Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side
of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it
has not even opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real
worried because last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a
pair of tennis shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore
and now 7 months later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear
sandal type shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last
shoe incidentthis is my 1s

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[John S.]

These rohos do wear out. They get to the point you have to add air every day or 
two. The covers get stretched. I try to get mine replaced every few years. 

john

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Danny Hearn  wrote:
From: Danny Hearn 
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com, "Merrill" 
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 8:51 AM

Wow, Merrill---that is opposite of what my chair providers told me--- i 
wanted gto go to a none high profile several years ago and they said OK, but if 
you do...you will be far more at risk for pressure sores!   i wonder if they 
told me correct?? because i have now used high profile roho's for over 11 
years.   Dan H.

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Merrill  wrote:

From: Merrill 
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:09 PM








Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 




From: William Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: imwheelin1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; ddh...@sbcglobal.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com


I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  

 

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.

 

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.

 

Stacy

 




From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore





hey dan,

ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .

 

 

 

ron c7

 

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn < ddh...@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

From: Danny Hearn < ddh...@sbcglobal.net >
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM






HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early
 stages.  thanks for any help !  

  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Dan]

Thank you Dave. Very astute and informative.

Dan who's now informed


At 11:16 AM 12/11/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said 
something that elicited my response:


cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a 
smaller (tighter) cover allows you to have less 
air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a roho 
is to blow it up and let it sit open valve to 
room pressure.  then cork it up and put into a 
cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom 
out.  I've never had a pressure sore from sitting on a roho.

AZDAVE

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Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space
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In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US 
Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? 
And why do you suppose that would matter?


Dan whose intrigued.


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:

Years ago I had sores more often than not using 
the High Profile Roho regardless of weight 
shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began 
using a smaller cushion cover.  Since that day 
inflation does not need be perfect nor are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.


Merrill


--
From: William Willis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting 
on a roho for over a year now. I get one healed 
and anothr develops. Its very depressing and 
frustrating. I was having pretty good luck 
until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve 
pressure and things aren't going as well. I 
visit a wound clinic once a week and have done so since june 2007


--
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is 
properly inflated.  I had a sore that I got in 
rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my 
roho after they got me on an air mattress at 
night.  Its the other sore that got infected 
and lead to another surgery in almost the same 
place as the sore I got fixed last year.


When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new 
chair, he said that he has seen people heal on 
a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper 
amount of air in it and pressure relief is being done.


Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this 
surgery fusing my back even more, I am not 
longer able to get any sort of shoulder 
deppresion that leaves me unable to get my butt 
off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't 
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over 
the summer but am curious how you all do your pressure relief.


Stacy


From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away 
without doing anything , like when a transfer 
goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far 
as what to put on it someone else here on the 
list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .




ron c7

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM
HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure 
sore issue my roho got a bit low but i 
could not tell and now i got a small pressure 
sore on my left side of my bottom. My wife said 
it looks sort of like a purple colored 
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things 
to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good 
for it ?? i'm real worried because last april, 
i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying 
a pair of tennis shoes one size too 
small---that turned  into a pressure sore and 
now 7 months later it is still slightly 
discolored and i still only wear sandal type 
shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So 
besides the last shoe incidentthis is my 
1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i 
know to do pressure release and stay off as 
much as possible-- but not sure what to put on 
it in the early stages.  thanks for any help !


Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[t crook]

Ditto on the being intrigued. 
I have a fine line between an over-inflated and under-inflated Roho (hi 
profile/quadro select); due to my skinny bum. The only thing I can think of on 
how a smaller cover would help, is, it would help hold the cells together from 
separating, which mine does and allows my bum to get closer to the bottom of 
the cushion.
So what size is your cushion Merrill, and the smaller cover?
Tim c5-c6 20 yrs. post
www.geocities.com/onemofortom
WhoopieKat.com

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:09 AM


What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that 
would matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:
 

Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 



From: William Willis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.
 
Stacy
 


From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .
 
 
 
ron c7
 
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early 
stages.  thanks for any help !  

  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Dave0c]

cushion cover size makes a BIG  difference.  a smaller (tighter)  cover 
allows you to have less air in the cushion.  proper inflation for a  roho is to 
blow it up and let it sit open valve to room pressure.  then  cork it up and 
put 
into a cover that allows you to sink in but not bottom  out.  I've never had a 
pressure sore from sitting on a roho.
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In a message dated 12/11/2008 8:10:47 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do  you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? And why do you suppose that 
would  matter?

Dan whose intrigued. 


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008,  Merrill said something that elicited my response:


Years  ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless  of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a  
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be  perfect nor 
are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am  up.

Merrill

 





From: William  Willis [_  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008  6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L]  sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for  over a year now. 
I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing  and frustrating. I 
was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now  i can't relieve 
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound  clinic once a week 
and have done so since june 2007
 


Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure  relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];  quad-list@eskimo.com
I think  you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a 
sore  that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after 
they  got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got  
infected 
and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I  got fixed 
last year.  

When I met with the wheelchair  dealer for a new chair, he said that he has 
seen people heal on a roho  cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of 
air in it and pressure  relief is being done.

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got  this surgery fusing my back even 
more, I am not longer able to get any sort  of shoulder deppresion that leaves 
me unable to get my butt off of the  surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten 
any new breakdown since  the episode over the summer but am curious how you all 
do your pressure  relief.

Stacy




From:  RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday,  December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on  pressure sore
hey dan,
ive  got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , 
like  when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to 
 
put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think  
it is gotten to a severe stage yet though  .



ron c7

--- On Sat,  12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore

To: quad-list@eskimo.com

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM

HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue  my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure  sore on my left side 
of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a  purple colored 
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on  one early---when it 
has not 
even opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm  good for it ?? i'm real worried 
because last april, i got a blister on my  heel from my wife buying a pair of 
tennis shoes one size too small---that  turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 
months later it is still  slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type 
shoe to keep all  pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe 
incidentthis is my  1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do 
pressure 
release  and stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in 
the  early stages.  thanks for any help  !   

Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



 


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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Dan]

What do you mean by 'a smaller cushion cover'? 
And why do you suppose that would matter?


Dan whose intrigued.


At 10:09 PM 12/10/2008, Merrill said something that elicited my response:

Years ago I had sores more often than not using 
the High Profile Roho regardless of weight 
shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began 
using a smaller cushion cover.  Since that day 
inflation does not need be perfect nor are 
pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.


Merrill


--
From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on 
a roho for over a year now. I get one healed and 
anothr develops. Its very depressing and 
frustrating. I was having pretty good luck until 
my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound 
clinic once a week and have done so since june 2007


--
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is 
properly inflated.  I had a sore that I got in 
rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my 
roho after they got me on an air mattress at 
night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place 
as the sore I got fixed last year.


When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new 
chair, he said that he has seen people heal on a 
roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper 
amount of air in it and pressure relief is being done.


Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this 
surgery fusing my back even more, I am not 
longer able to get any sort of shoulder 
deppresion that leaves me unable to get my butt 
off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't 
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over 
the summer but am curious how you all do your pressure relief.


Stacy


From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away 
without doing anything , like when a transfer 
goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far 
as what to put on it someone else here on the 
list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .




ron c7

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM
HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore 
issue my roho got a bit low but i could not 
tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my 
left side of my bottom. My wife said it looks 
sort of like a purple colored bruisecan you 
guys tell me the best things to put on one 
early---when it has not even opened up??? is 
lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real 
worried because last april, i got a blister on 
my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a 
pressure sore and now 7 months later it is still 
slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal 
type shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So 
besides the last shoe incidentthis is my 1st 
time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to 
do pressure release and stay off as much as 
possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the 
early stages.  thanks for any help !


Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post



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Re: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Danny Hearn]

Wow, Merrill---that is opposite of what my chair providers told me--- i 
wanted gto go to a none high profile several years ago and they said OK, but if 
you do...you will be far more at risk for pressure sores!   i wonder if they 
told me correct?? because i have now used high profile roho's for over 11 
years.   Dan H.

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 9:09 PM








Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho 
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a 
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect nor 
are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.
 
Merrill
 




From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
 

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007



Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com


I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  

 

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.

 

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.

 

Stacy

 




From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore





hey dan,

ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .

 

 

 

ron c7

 

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

From: Danny Hearn < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM






HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early 
stages.  thanks for any help !  

  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 



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FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Merrill]

Years ago I had sores more often than not using the High Profile Roho
regardless of weight shifts.  Several years ago by accident I began using a
smaller cushion cover.  Since that day inflation does not need be perfect
nor are pressure shifts even necessary regardless how long I am up.

 

Merrill

 

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From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

 


i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now.
I get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I
was having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve
pressure and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week
and have done so since june 2007

  _  

Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com

I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a
sore that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after
they got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got
infected and lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I
got fixed last year.  

 

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has
seen people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of
air in it and pressure relief is being done.

 

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even
more, I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that
leaves me unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't
gotten any new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious
how you all do your pressure relief.

 

Stacy

 

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From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore


hey dan,

ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything ,
like when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what
to put on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont
think it is gotten to a severe stage yet though .

 

 

 

ron c7

 

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM


HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side
of my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored
bruisecan you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it
has not even opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real
worried because last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a
pair of tennis shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore
and now 7 months later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear
sandal type shoe to keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last
shoe incidentthis is my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know
to do pressure release and stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what
to put on it in the early stages.  thanks for any help !  

 
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post

 

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FW: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[William Willis]

i've been trying to heal a sore while sitting on a roho for over a year now. I 
get one healed and anothr develops. Its very depressing and frustrating. I was 
having pretty good luck until my tilt chair died. Now i can't relieve pressure 
and things aren't going as well. I visit a wound clinic once a week and have 
done so since june 2007

Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:27:06 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [QUAD-L] sore 
advice and pressure relief.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
quad-list@eskimo.com



I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  
 
When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.
 
Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.
 
Stacy



From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] need 
advice on pressure sore




hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .
 
 
 
ron c7
 
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure 
soreTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM





HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early 
stages.  thanks for any help !  
  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post
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Re: [QUAD-L] sore advice and pressure relief.

[Stacy Harim]

I think you'll be ok now that your cushion is properly inflated.  I had a sore 
that I got in rehab over the summer heal while sitting on my roho after they 
got me on an air mattress at night.  Its the other sore that got infected and 
lead to another surgery in almost the same place as the sore I got fixed last 
year.  

When I met with the wheelchair dealer for a new chair, he said that he has seen 
people heal on a roho cushion.  As long as it has the proper amount of air in 
it and pressure relief is being done.

Speaking of pressure relief, since I got this surgery fusing my back even more, 
I am not longer able to get any sort of shoulder deppresion that leaves me 
unable to get my butt off of the surface.  I lean now.  I haven't gotten any 
new breakdown since the episode over the summer but am curious how you all do 
your pressure relief.


Stacy




From: RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore


hey dan,
ive got little purplish bruises b4 that go away without doing anything , like 
when a transfer goes a lil wrong and you hit something. as far as what to put 
on it someone else here on the list prob has a better idea. i dont think it is 
gotten to a severe stage yet though .



ron c7

--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Danny Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [QUAD-L] need advice on pressure sore
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:57 AM


HI -  All,  I need help with a new pressure sore issue my roho got a bit 
low but i could not tell and now i got a small pressure sore on my left side of 
my bottom. My wife said it looks sort of like a purple colored bruisecan 
you guys tell me the best things to put on one early---when it has not even 
opened up??? is lantaseptic or bag balm good for it ?? i'm real worried because 
last april, i got a blister on my heel from my wife buying a pair of tennis 
shoes one size too small---that turned  into a pressure sore and now 7 months 
later it is still slightly discolored and i still only wear sandal type shoe to 
keep all pressure off that area. So besides the last shoe incidentthis is 
my 1st time with a butt area pressure sore---i know to do pressure release and 
stay off as much as possible-- but not sure what to put on it in the early 
stages.  thanks for any help !  
  
Dan H.  C-6  11 1/2 yr. post  


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[David K. Kelmer]

That is also my understanding when using bagbalm.
   
  With Love,
  
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
   
   
  Texas, USA
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:26:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 
3 minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5 
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No change.
   
  Any ideas?
   
  GA

  
  Correct me if I'm wrong but bag balm should not be used on open surfaces.
  W

RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Steve,
   
  That's what I'm thinking.  About the only way to heal a wound in that are is 
to keep it clean, keep it dry, and keep off of it so it doesn't rub.  A major 
pain in the butt!
   
  With Love,
  
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 30 Years Post
   
   
  Texas, USA


Steve Oldaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  GA...
   
  Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to 
heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let alone 
4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is accomplished when 
you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin trouble for nearly nineteen 
years of injury and I have never been able to heal a problem without staying 
out of the chair. I also keep a small fan blowing on my groin area any time I 
am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to prevent moisture from building up and 
creating problems.
   
  Steve - C4

  
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore


  
  Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)

  I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked and 
can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
   
  The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
  it is always warm and damp.
   
  The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin 
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed into 
the area.  No change.
   
  I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 3 
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5 hours, 
then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No change.
   
  Any ideas?
   
  GA

FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[William Willis]

Thanks, Sandy. No, I live in central Kentucky.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sore
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:58:24 EST

Larry,
One thing nobody mentioned is to sleep at night with your legs in a frog
position. That is with your knees bent and legs apart. It will keep air
circulating and your skin dry in your sensitive area. Every little bit of  
goodness

helps. Good luck with that tough decision. Do you live in the DC area  by
chance?
Sandy

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[StubanRN]

Larry, 
One thing nobody mentioned is to sleep at night with your legs in a frog  
position. That is with your knees bent and legs apart. It will keep air  
circulating and your skin dry in your sensitive area. Every little bit of  
goodness 
helps. Good luck with that tough decision. Do you live in the DC area  by 
chance? 
Sandy 

FW: RE: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[William Willis]

My heartfelt thanks to all for your advice. You told me what I guess I knew 
in my heart -- I'm going to have to sacrifice something. I can see that big 
cloud of depression already looming ahead. Larry




From: Dan Tessiatore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Les <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'Paul Jacobson'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: RE: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 17:14:24 -0800 (PST)

I have a friend who had been trying to heal a sore on the bottom of her 
heel unsuccessfully.  She finally went to a wound care specialist and they 
put a cast on her foot that would allow her to put weight on that foot but 
not on the sore.  It has been healing since the casting.  The cast is 
changed two to three times a week to prevent additional sores.  Hope you 
heal soon... Dan T.


Les <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  First go to the doctor or wound 
clinic and don't want it to good bad. I have

a sore on my heel and since I have been going to the wonder clinic it has
finally got better.

So this is the few things I can tell you, get all pressure off the heel,
don't let anything push against your heel, because that will make it worse.
Each sore has its own life force so chat with a doctor for the next step.

Lester C4-5 Quad 18 Post

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:48 PM
To: William Willis; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

I too.have a soremy first.on my heel(under my
foot.its actually a large blister that is dark inside).

How do I treat it?

Thanks!
Paul c5/6
- Original Message -
From: "William Willis"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore


>
> I have a large sore on my ass that I have been trying to heal for over 3
> years. I has no depth, just open flesh about 3x4 in. I've tried every
> miracle cure known to man and a few unknown. It won't heal. The problem 
-

> I have a full-time job and have to sit 10-12 hrs a day. It depresses the
> hell out of me and I don't know what to do about it.
>
>>From: "Steve Oldaker"
>>To: ,
>>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0500
>>
>>GA...
>>
>>Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore 
to

>>heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
>>alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
>>accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
>>trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able 
to

>>heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
>>blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
>>prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.
>>
>>Steve - C4
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>
>>
>>
>>Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)
>>
>>I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA 
checked

>>and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
>>
>>The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
>>it is always warm and damp.
>>
>>The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
>>covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed
>>into
>>the area. No change.
>>
>>I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp 
for


>>3
>>minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
>>hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm. No
>>change.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>GA
>>
>
>



..

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[delimited4]

 I don't know if you can heal the wound and still get up 12 hours a day. I know 
it is hard to choose between a job and healing a wound. If there is a way you 
can work from home and cut your hours back in the chair. I nursed a wound for 
the last three years that I worked and it was a major reason that I gave up 
working and became my useless lazy self. If I could change anything I'd have 
retired to arizona or nm. I would have begged for my job if it had meant as 
much to me, but I was tired. I don't wish your choice on anyone. I don't think 
anyone makes a low air loss seat cushion yet, but that would be a major leap in 
seating no insurance would pay for. 
 
good luck with whatever you decide.
john
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore


I don't think it will ever feel if you continue to get up.  My sores will not 
and I always go to the hospital wounds Center where they can correctly monitor. 
 They also give me the necessary 
supplies and treatment.  The used a waferlike material called fibercol that was 
very expensive.  You would cut smaller than the wound and put inside and cover 
with a gauze.  They would debried every couple weeks.  I remember it taking six 
months to heal and I was in bed about two years ago.  It was caused by a laptop 
power cord getting overheated as I switch from side to side and move the 
laptop, being under my lower bottom where your leg and bought meet.  I would 
just get up long enough to wash my hair.  I got really sick of it and would've 
gone crazy with out my laptop.  Ha ha
Dana 

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RE: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Dan Tessiatore]

I have a friend who had been trying to heal a sore on the bottom of her heel 
unsuccessfully.  She finally went to a wound care specialist and they put a 
cast on her foot that would allow her to put weight on that foot but not on the 
sore.  It has been healing since the casting.  The cast is changed two to three 
times a week to prevent additional sores.  Hope you heal soon... Dan T.

Les <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  First go to the doctor or wound clinic and 
don't want it to good bad. I have
a sore on my heel and since I have been going to the wonder clinic it has
finally got better. 

So this is the few things I can tell you, get all pressure off the heel,
don't let anything push against your heel, because that will make it worse.
Each sore has its own life force so chat with a doctor for the next step.

Lester C4-5 Quad 18 Post

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:48 PM
To: William Willis; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

I too.have a soremy first.on my heel(under my 
foot.its actually a large blister that is dark inside).

How do I treat it?

Thanks!
Paul c5/6
- Original Message - 
From: "William Willis" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore


>
> I have a large sore on my ass that I have been trying to heal for over 3 
> years. I has no depth, just open flesh about 3x4 in. I've tried every 
> miracle cure known to man and a few unknown. It won't heal. The problem - 
> I have a full-time job and have to sit 10-12 hrs a day. It depresses the 
> hell out of me and I don't know what to do about it.
>
>>From: "Steve Oldaker" 
>>To: , 
>>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0500
>>
>>GA...
>>
>>Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to
>>heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
>>alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
>>accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
>>trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able to
>>heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
>>blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
>>prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.
>>
>>Steve - C4
>>
>>
>> _
>>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>
>>
>>
>>Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)
>>
>>I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked
>>and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
>>
>>The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
>>it is always warm and damp.
>>
>>The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
>>covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed 
>>into
>>the area. No change.
>>
>>I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for

>>3
>>minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
>>hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm. No
>>change.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>GA
>>
>
> 



..

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Dan Tessiatore]

Try to keep the area from being overly moist as your wound will not heal if to 
wet. Naturally, the more you stay off it the quicker it will heal. I had a sore 
in a fold of my skin on my behind and finally decided to stay in bed off of it. 
It does help. Possibly look into a cushion that would provide relief for that 
area. Have you or your caregiver consulted with a wound care specialist? What 
are you sitting on? my wound care specialists recommended using a new products 
manufactured by Smith and nephew. Using a product called Solosite on the open 
wound and covered with a gauze bandage. On the healed areas and at risk areas I 
use a product called Extra Protection Cream Hang in there it will heal. Dan T.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Question for the guys out there. (different 
anatomy than the female)

  I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked and 
can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
   
  The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
  it is always warm and damp.
   
  The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin 
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed into 
the area.  No change.
   
  I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 3 
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5 hours, 
then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No change.
   
  Any ideas?
   
  GA

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[DAANOO]

Is it getting enough circulation.  I remember having to open my legs  up so 
air can get to it to allow it to heal.  Mine was not open, just red  area.
Dana

Re: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[DAANOO]

I don't think it will ever feel if you continue to get up.  My sores  will 
not and I always go to the hospital wounds Center where they can correctly  
monitor.  They also give me the necessary 
supplies and  treatment.  The used a waferlike material called fibercol that 
was very  expensive.  You would cut smaller than the wound and put inside and 
cover  with a gauze.  They would debried every couple weeks.  I remember it  
taking six months to heal and I was in bed about two years ago.  It was  caused 
by a laptop power cord getting overheated as I switch from side to side  and 
move the laptop, being under my lower bottom where your leg and bought  meet.  
I would just get up long enough to wash my hair.  I got really  sick of it 
and would've gone crazy with out my laptop.  Ha ha
Dana 

RE: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Les]

First go to the doctor or wound clinic and don't want it to good bad. I have
a sore on my heel and since I have been going to the wonder clinic it has
finally got better. 

So this is the few things I can tell you, get all pressure off the heel,
don't let anything push against your heel, because that will make it worse.
Each sore has its own life force so chat with a doctor for the next step.

Lester C4-5 Quad 18 Post

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:48 PM
To: William Willis; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

I too.have a soremy first.on my heel(under my 
foot.its actually a large blister that is dark inside).

How do I treat it?

Thanks!
Paul c5/6
- Original Message - 
From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore


>
> I have a large sore on my ass that I have been trying to heal for over 3 
> years. I has no depth, just open flesh about 3x4 in. I've tried every 
> miracle cure known to man and a few unknown. It won't heal. The problem - 
> I have a full-time job and have to sit 10-12 hrs a day. It depresses the 
> hell out of me and I don't know what to do about it.
>
>>From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0500
>>
>>GA...
>>
>>Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to
>>heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
>>alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
>>accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
>>trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able to
>>heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
>>blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
>>prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.
>>
>>Steve - C4
>>
>>
>>   _
>>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore
>>
>>
>>
>>Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)
>>
>>I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked
>>and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
>>
>>The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
>>it is always warm and damp.
>>
>>The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
>>covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed 
>>into
>>the area.  No change.
>>
>>I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for

>>3
>>minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
>>hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No
>>change.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>GA
>>
>
> 

Re: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Paul Jacobson]

I too.have a soremy first.on my heel(under my 
foot.its actually a large blister that is dark inside).


How do I treat it?

Thanks!
Paul c5/6
- Original Message - 
From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:37 AM
Subject: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore




I have a large sore on my ass that I have been trying to heal for over 3 
years. I has no depth, just open flesh about 3x4 in. I've tried every 
miracle cure known to man and a few unknown. It won't heal. The problem - 
I have a full-time job and have to sit 10-12 hrs a day. It depresses the 
hell out of me and I don't know what to do about it.



From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0500

GA...

Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to
heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able to
heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.

Steve - C4


  _

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore



Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)

I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked
and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.

The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
it is always warm and damp.

The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed 
into

the area.  No change.

I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 
3

minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No
change.

Any ideas?

GA

FW: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[William Willis]

I have a large sore on my ass that I have been trying to heal for over 3 
years. I has no depth, just open flesh about 3x4 in. I've tried every 
miracle cure known to man and a few unknown. It won't heal. The problem - I 
have a full-time job and have to sit 10-12 hrs a day. It depresses the hell 
out of me and I don't know what to do about it.



From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Sore
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:17:22 -0500

GA...

Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to
heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able to
heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.

Steve - C4


  _

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore



Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)

I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked
and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.

The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
it is always warm and damp.

The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed 
into

the area.  No change.

I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 
3

minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No
change.

Any ideas?

GA

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[wheelchair]

 
In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:26:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp  for 3 
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5  
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No  change.
 
Any ideas?
 
GA



Correct me if I'm wrong but bag balm should not be used on open  surfaces.
W

RE: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Steve Oldaker]

GA...
 
Is there any way you can stay out of the chair long enough for the sore to
heal completely? It would seem that spending even a couple of hours let
alone 4-5 hours in the chair daily would undo any healing that is
accomplished when you are not in your chair. I have had periodic skin
trouble for nearly nineteen years of injury and I have never been able to
heal a problem without staying out of the chair. I also keep a small fan
blowing on my groin area any time I am in the bed, sore or otherwise, to
prevent moisture from building up and creating problems.
 
Steve - C4


  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:26 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Sore



Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the female)

I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA checked
and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
 
The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso, so
it is always warm and damp.
 
The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed into
the area.  No change.
 
I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for 3
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No
change.
 
Any ideas?
 
GA

Re: [QUAD-L] Sore

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
I had a big lump in that area last year that broke open.  The doc  cleaned it 
all out and packed it with some seaweed stuff it never  closed.  He had 
to go back in and scrape out all the [I forget the medical  name] "bad" skin... 
'dirty wound' I think he called it, stuff that would just  never heal.  After 
he scraped it out, he closed it and after a tiny bit  needed lancing a month 
later, it finally closed and remains so now.  That  was an ugly 4 month trip I 
don't care to repeat.  
Best of luck to you.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/4/2007 9:26:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the  female)

I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA  checked 
and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
 
The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso,  so
it is always warm and damp.
 
The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin  
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed into  
the 
area.  No change.
 
I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp  for 3 
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5  
hours, then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No  change.
 
Any ideas?
 
GA




 
Dave  _Visit My Home  Page_ (http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html) 

[QUAD-L] Sore

[GHenry1]

Question for the guys out there. (different anatomy than the  female)

I have an area 1 inch by 1/2 inch, not deep,good granulation, VNA  checked 
and can find no tract, but it just won't heal.
 
The problem is that it is under the scrotum where it meets the torso,  so
it is always warm and damp.
 
The VNA has me on protein, vitamins, etc. We have used Progran, a thin  
covering that you put over the area, wet with saline and it is absorbed into 
the  
area.  No change.
 
I have now gone to a treatment that we used before, putting a heatlamp for  3 
minutes along with neosporin and bagbalm in the AM, up in the chair 4-5 
hours,  then put a fan on it for 7 minutes, then neo. and bagbalm.  No  change.
 
Any ideas?
 
GA

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Stacy Harim]

I tried miracle mist and it didn't do anything for me.  It is probably 
because the sore is that bad.
 
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Liz 
  To: William Willis ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore
  miracle mist is getting rave reviews- Original Message 
  -From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <quad-list@eskimo.com>Sent: 
  Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:38 PMSubject: [QUAD-L] sore> 
  I have a pressure sore on my ol' weary ass that I have been treating 
  for> over three years. It gets neither better nor worse and has never 
  become> infected.(thankfully). It is about four in across but not deep 
  at all. It> also has good blood flow. After three years it has grown to 
  love me, cause> it certainly won't  go away. Anybody got any ideas 
  short of an assectomy?(I> do wet-to-dry twice a 
  day)>>>

RE: [QUAD-L] sore

[Lana Baugh]

Gabe had a pressure sore on his butt that he couldn't kick. We tried all the
heavy duty "derm" dressings. We found out that sweat and the general
bunching up of the buns when sitting and dressings falling off early kept
the sore alive and well. So we tried Tegederm. Yes, the thin stuff. It
worked. I think it worked because it followed the butt crease in sitting and
laying and the skin could breath easy so it could stay on for the optimal 7
day period.

Most of the stuff I've read and info at conferences says that wet to dry
dressings actually keeps the site from healing. Every time you change a
dressing it kills and rips away the new tissue. So whatever dressing you
use- foam, the many different duoderms, silver laced dressing, miracle mist
etc- they need to stay on long enough for healthy tissue to form and get
established. 

Have you been to a wound care clinic, had wound care nurses help, or had a
wound care docs help? 

The PVA has a great book on SCI. It has a lot of good info on pressure sores
& Treatment. A good source is also the American Spina Bifida Assoc. A lot of
individuals with SB fight with sores their whole life. Their parents fight
for better care when they are young. So they get pretty good $ to
investigate pressure sores. I went to a conference about 15 years ago and
went to a session on presentation sores- wet to dry was out and the derms,
foams and sprays were in. From the care Gabe has been receiving I think it
is still the case.

Hope this helps,
Lana
Gabe's mom 10 years post, C4-5 

 



-Original Message-
From: Liz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 AM
To: William Willis; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

miracle mist is getting rave reviews
- Original Message -
From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:38 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore


> I have a pressure sore on my ol' weary ass that I have been treating for
> over three years. It gets neither better nor worse and has never become
> infected.(thankfully). It is about four in across but not deep at all. It
> also has good blood flow. After three years it has grown to love me, cause
> it certainly won't  go away. Anybody got any ideas short of an assectomy?
(I
> do wet-to-dry twice a day)
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[DAANOO]

I'm so glad they're healed .  Congratulations.  I ordered some 
miracle mess that I have not used on any sore because I have not had any.  
I did use it on a small scrapes.
 
I'm glad it's good stuff.  You're a testimony to it.  You should 
write the company about your success.Dana

FW: Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[William Willis]

thanks to everybody for your excellent suggestions. i shall certainly try 
them all.




From: Mare Albano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Silas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:03:25 -0500

also, the protein drinks and bars from Silas' miracle mist website are a 
phenomenal source of protein, necessary for healing wounds!


Mare C4/5 28 yrs post

- Original Message - From: "Silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore



Hello William,
Ive had two sores on my butt for 2 years, been going to a wound care 
facilitie. They tried everything, even a wound vac.  Which made them 
worse! Someone on the list told me about miracle mist, I figured what the 
hell and ordered a bottle.  With in two weeks my Dr was freaking out at 
how well they look, I finally told him what I was using.  Of course he 
laughted it off, after the next few weeks he wonted me to bring the bottle 
so he could see what was the ingredients.  Within 4 months the wounds are 
just about gone.

Silas
Heres their web site www.healthy-times.com

- Original Message - From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:38 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore


I have a pressure sore on my ol' weary ass that I have been treating for 
over three years. It gets neither better nor worse and has never become 
infected.(thankfully). It is about four in across but not deep at all. It 
also has good blood flow. After three years it has grown to love me, 
cause it certainly won't  go away. Anybody got any ideas short of an 
assectomy? (I do wet-to-dry twice a day)

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Mare Albano]

also, the protein drinks and bars from Silas' miracle mist website are a 
phenomenal source of protein, necessary for healing wounds!


Mare C4/5 28 yrs post

- Original Message - 
From: "Silas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore



Hello William,
Ive had two sores on my butt for 2 years, been going to a wound care 
facilitie. They tried everything, even a wound vac.  Which made them 
worse! Someone on the list told me about miracle mist, I figured what the 
hell and ordered a bottle.  With in two weeks my Dr was freaking out at 
how well they look, I finally told him what I was using.  Of course he 
laughted it off, after the next few weeks he wonted me to bring the bottle 
so he could see what was the ingredients.  Within 4 months the wounds are 
just about gone.

Silas
Heres their web site www.healthy-times.com

- Original Message - 
From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:38 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] sore


I have a pressure sore on my ol' weary ass that I have been treating for 
over three years. It gets neither better nor worse and has never become 
infected.(thankfully). It is about four in across but not deep at all. It 
also has good blood flow. After three years it has grown to love me, cause 
it certainly won't  go away. Anybody got any ideas short of an assectomy? 
(I do wet-to-dry twice a day)