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Thanks, Dana--I hope you heal soon also ! Yes, with us being quads it does'nt take a lot for ourselves, caregivers or the hospitals to make simple mistakes at times that can cause problems for us. I hope you make the concert ! this summer I got to go to three concerts at our six flags amusement park-- they were ( the newsboys/mercy me/ and 3rd Day) We enjoyed seeing them. I have really enjoyed the recent posts from every single person, we all have some varied views on some things but I respect all of everyone on our lists insight and opinions/thoughts/feelings also ! It's funny how the list can be so quiet for a spell then suddenly errupt with activity and postings, lol ( A lot may be to the subjects and our moods at times ) Many of us go thru much of the same type things at different times. Dan H.** From: "daa...@aol.com" To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, August 27, 2012 1:32:54 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Danny, So sorry about your sore. It's such a pain to deal with sores of any kind, because of the time it takes to heal them.. I just got out the hospital for a UTI and came home with a sore from someone transferring me for the MRI, CAT scan or turning me in bed causing a tear along my right panty line. My caregivers showed it to the wound care nurse that was changing my arm bandages. The hospital just happen to call on Thursday and asked me what I thought of my hospital stay. My caregiver and I let them have it. My nurse told the wound care nurse that I was perfect when I came in. The woman was very nice but asked us not to fill out the questionnaire that the hospital sends in the mail. She wanted to talk to the nurse manager from that floor. The case manager called on Friday but I was not up yet. I complained about my bed during my stay and they said they could not get one any softer. I told them I had a sandbag at KU for the month I was there, when I returned for part of the week and after my skin graft surgery as they made me stay overnight. Now that pressure area has turned into a much bigger area. This is irritating thing about being a quadriplegic, when things happen that should not have. I go back to the plastic surgeon to look at my skin graft on my heel and my burned hand as a result of a caregiver. Sometimes a number of things happen at once. I have faith I will get through this. Just looking forward to my next concert on September 5, Kelly Clarkson and The Fray. I feel for you dealing with your new wound, A.D. and the pain and discomfort from your syrinx. I went to a seminar about them and it helped me to understand them much better. This list is a wonderful place to discuss our problems, learn from each other and pray for our friends with quad problems. Thank God for this list! Dana In a message dated 8/26/2012 7:54:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes: >Lol, Greg-- Well the woman ate first BUT the man also did. ( also it was >fruit-may have been apple but may have been something else ) thanks for the >nice comments everyone! I think all of mankind has questioned at onetime or >another wheather there is a God or not, Like Merideth or one of the posts >said >about how he can reveal himself to different people , probably in many >different >ways. As for Bobbie, i wish you the best, Life can be tough and confusing for >anyone ! Even more so when pain and disabilities are present, I know I suffer >with bad pain and a syrinx myself. Right now i'm getting some bad autonomic >dysreflexia at nightdue to my stupiity in trying to use a heat pack >too >far down my back causing a silver dollar sized pressure type sore. I love >those >microwaveable bed buddy hot/cold packs, Bet from now on i'll use it around my >neck like I have done for a few years. Dan H** > > > > ________________ From: greg >To: quadlist >Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 5:52:30 PM >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > >But why does he also blame man for what a woman did? >I hate apples, I'd of left it alone... >:-) > >> Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has >> proved to me that he is real several times in my life, >> First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple >> instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the >> Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the >> Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely >> DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was >> the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He >> saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer >> and die a horrible de
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Wow, you guys are great, love to hear your inspirational attitudes. I agree Gina and Greg !!! Meredith - Original Message - From: "Regina Fuller" To: daa...@aol.com Cc: "quadlist" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:29:01 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad I know we all became a quad in different ways. None of us asked for it, but I think we've all have made the most of it. I believe there is a God, who saved me from a life that was going downward fast. My accident was diving off a pier into a lake I had been drinking. I drowned, I coded 3 times when got to the hospital, had so many infections becuz of the water they kept tellin my mom I wasnt going to make it thru the nite they told her this every nite. After a month they finally operated on my neck but couldnt tell me how much movement I would have but I came thru n I'm a c6-7. To me this was a second chance to do something more and was able to raise my daughter again becuz she was 9 I was 28 I had to go to a nursing home after I got out of TIRR, but with the help from people from this list and God I went to a disabilty apartment and got my daughter back when she was 14. Shes now 22 and gave me 2 grandkids. I also have a wonderful man in my life and we have a house and 4 dogs, I'm closer to my family too. So even though Im in a chair and I have trials that we all go thru as quads. I thank God Im alive and I have this chance. Also my daughter told me that she doesnt know how I do it being a quad she said she didnt think she could I told her you never know what you can do until it happens to you and that means anything people go through. We all get frustrated, depressed and every other feeling, but We are all here for a reason and I for one am glad y'all are here for the great advice for the friendships for the knowledge and the questions. I thank God for all the people on this list and I pray each of us gets our dreams and wishes answered. Gina Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: daa...@aol.com ; To: ; ; Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 6:31:46 AM Hi Danny, So sorry about your sore. It's such a pain to deal with sores of any kind, because of the time it takes to heal them.. I just got out the hospital for a UTI and came home with a sore from someone transferring me for the MRI, CAT scan or turning me in bed causing a tear along my right panty line. My caregivers showed it to the wound care nurse that was changing my arm bandages. The hospital just happen to call on Thursday and asked me what I thought of my hospital stay. My caregiver and I let them have it. My nurse told the wound care nurse that I was perfect when I came in. The woman was very nice but asked us not to fill out the questionnaire that the hospital sends in the mail. She wanted to talk to the nurse manager from that floor. The case manager called on Friday but I was not up yet. I complained about my bed during my stay and they said they could not get one any softer. I told them I had a sandbag at KU for the month I was there, when I returned for part of the week and after my skin graft surgery as they made me stay overnight. Now that pressure area has turned into a much bigger area. This is irritating thing about being a quadriplegic, when things happen that should not have. I go back to the plastic surgeon to look at my skin graft on my heel and my burned hand as a result of a caregiver. Sometimes a number of things happen at once. I have faith I will get through this. Just looking forward to my next concert on September 5, Kelly Clarkson and The Fray. I feel for you dealing with your new wound, A.D. and the pain and discomfort from your syrinx. I went to a seminar about them and it helped me to understand them much better. This list is a wonderful place to discuss our problems, learn from each other and pray for our friends with quad problems. Thank God for this list! Dana In a message dated 8/26/2012 7:54:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes: Lol, Greg-- Well the woman ate first BUT the man also did. ( also it was fruit-may have been apple but may have been something else ) thanks for the nice comments everyone! I think all of mankind has questioned at onetime or another wheather there is a God or not, Like Merideth or one of the posts said about how he can reveal himself to different people , probably in many different ways. As for Bobbie, i wish you the best, Life can be tough and confusing for anyone ! Even more so when pain and disabilities are present, I know I suffer with bad pain and a syrinx myself. Right now i'm getting some bad autonomic dysreflexia at nightdue to my stupiity in trying to use a heat pack too far down my back causing a silver dollar sized pressure type sore. I love those microwaveable bed buddy hot/cold
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I know we all became a quad in different ways. None of us asked for it, but I think we've all have made the most of it. I believe there is a God, who saved me from a life that was going downward fast. My accident was diving off a pier into a lake I had been drinking. I drowned, I coded 3 times when got to the hospital, had so many infections becuz of the water they kept tellin my mom I wasnt going to make it thru the nite they told her this every nite. After a month they finally operated on my neck but couldnt tell me how much movement I would have but I came thru n I'm a c6-7. To me this was a second chance to do something more and was able to raise my daughter again becuz she was 9 I was 28 I had to go to a nursing home after I got out of TIRR, but with the help from people from this list and God I went to a disabilty apartment and got my daughter back when she was 14. Shes now 22 and gave me 2 grandkids. I also have a wonderful man in my life and we have a house and 4 dogs, I'm closer to my family too. So even though Im in a chair and I have trials that we all go thru as quads. I thank God Im alive and I have this chance. Also my daughter told me that she doesnt know how I do it being a quad she said she didnt think she could I told her you never know what you can do until it happens to you and that means anything people go through. We all get frustrated, depressed and every other feeling, but We are all here for a reason and I for one am glad y'all are here for the great advice for the friendships for the knowledge and the questions. I thank God for all the people on this list and I pray each of us gets our dreams and wishes answered. Gina Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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Hi Danny, So sorry about your sore. It's such a pain to deal with sores of any kind, because of the time it takes to heal them.. I just got out the hospital for a UTI and came home with a sore from someone transferring me for the MRI, CAT scan or turning me in bed causing a tear along my right panty line. My caregivers showed it to the wound care nurse that was changing my arm bandages. The hospital just happen to call on Thursday and asked me what I thought of my hospital stay. My caregiver and I let them have it. My nurse told the wound care nurse that I was perfect when I came in. The woman was very nice but asked us not to fill out the questionnaire that the hospital sends in the mail. She wanted to talk to the nurse manager from that floor. The case manager called on Friday but I was not up yet. I complained about my bed during my stay and they said they could not get one any softer. I told them I had a sandbag at KU for the month I was there, when I returned for part of the week and after my skin graft surgery as they made me stay overnight. Now that pressure area has turned into a much bigger area. This is irritating thing about being a quadriplegic, when things happen that should not have. I go back to the plastic surgeon to look at my skin graft on my heel and my burned hand as a result of a caregiver. Sometimes a number of things happen at once. I have faith I will get through this. Just looking forward to my next concert on September 5, Kelly Clarkson and The Fray. I feel for you dealing with your new wound, A.D. and the pain and discomfort from your syrinx. I went to a seminar about them and it helped me to understand them much better. This list is a wonderful place to discuss our problems, learn from each other and pray for our friends with quad problems. Thank God for this list! Dana In a message dated 8/26/2012 7:54:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes: Lol, Greg-- Well the woman ate first BUT the man also did. ( also it was fruit-may have been apple but may have been something else ) thanks for the nice comments everyone! I think all of mankind has questioned at onetime or another wheather there is a God or not, Like Merideth or one of the posts said about how he can reveal himself to different people , probably in many different ways. As for Bobbie, i wish you the best, Life can be tough and confusing for anyone ! Even more so when pain and disabilities are present, I know I suffer with bad pain and a syrinx myself. Right now i'm getting some bad autonomic dysreflexia at nightdue to my stupiity in trying to use a heat pack too far down my back causing a silver dollar sized pressure type sore. I love those microwaveable bed buddy hot/cold packs, Bet from now on i'll use it around my neck like I have done for a few years. Dan H** From: greg To: quadlist Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 5:52:30 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad But why does he also blame man for what a woman did? I hate apples, I'd of left it alone... :-) > Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has > proved to me that he is real several times in my life, > First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple > instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the > Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the > Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely > DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was > the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He > saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer > and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any > interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years > ago. I have it wrote down date and all in > a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful > lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was > obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of > those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I > had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, > GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body > and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's > ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified > thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in > the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what > was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before > me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a > loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all > mean
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12. You can blame the farts on the dogs! Will somebody please put the dogs outside? From: Greg [mailto:mongrelti...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:31 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad 11. When you shit your pants, people often pretend not to notice. Greg c/5 On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Lissette Whitehead wrote: 7. Don't have to wait in line sometimes. 8. No need to use public bathrooms (most of the time) 9. Don't have to worry about finding a place to sit 10. Often get special tratment Lissette Whitehead On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being a quad. 1. Good parking (most of the time) 2. You meet kind people 3. You know more about technology than most. 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows C,mon add your own, funny or not. But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad Meredith
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Oops... In re: to Don, what I meant to type was, "I usually end up wishing I had said *what he did*." Greg c5 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Greg wrote: > The worst part of participating here on the list is reading about the > struggles and medical problems of others and having a pretty good idea > of just what they're going through. I have had problems with pressure > sores, kidney stones, loneliness, finances, equipment, AD, and most of > the other ailments and difficulties that quads face, and it saddens me > to read of others going through them. It's also a little frightening > because I know one act of carelessness or one stroke of bad luck and I > could very well find myself dealing with these same problems again. > > One of the best things about participating here is the flip-side of > the problems we face and that is reading about the different ways > people cope, and it's fun to see how the different personality types > express themselves, especially when they're facing problems. But the > coolest posts here are the level-headed, reasonable responses like Ron > Pracht's and Don Price's in this thread. They often respond in the > way I wish I could. And while Don and I disagree on some things, he > never fails to make his point, and I usually end up wishing I had said > we did. > > Whether you have a God or not, we all face many of the same problems > while we're here, and this forum is a good resource for finding > solutions to a lot of them. I'm glad it's here and I'm glad to have > so many perspectives available. The cussing just adds a little spice > to the dish and I don't mind it at all. In fact, I rather like it. > It's honest and it doesn't hurt anyone. > > Greg c5 > > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:55 PM, RONALD L PRACHT > wrote: > > I like the fact people have different feelings and express them on here > > about being a quad It depresses me when all I read is people saying that > > life is better since they have been paralyzed and everything is > wonderful. I > > get energized when I hear the real stories of people making is through > the > > struggles and making some good out of it. Bobbie is alright, shes rolling > > along getting her chair ordered and dealing with everyday > life.she > > just expresses her frustration along the way..and thats ok with me. > As > > long as your moving forward as best you can a few cuss words are in > order. > > > > ron c7 > > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Don Price wrote: > > I appreciated the story, Danny. Thank you for sharing something so > > personal. Those kind of stories give me chills, even though I struggle > with faith. > > > True, there is pain and suffering in the world. On the other hand there > is > > great beauty and joy. Babies, mountains, life and love all seem too > > miraculous to be purely chance. But, everyone is free to their beliefs. > > > We can't put ourselves in other people's shoes [or chairs,] so I try to > > accept what others feel and how they adapt/cope to life with SCI. > > > Bobbie, I know you have been going through hell [and a case of the blahs] > > and I hope things improve. > > > Don. >
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The worst part of participating here on the list is reading about the struggles and medical problems of others and having a pretty good idea of just what they're going through. I have had problems with pressure sores, kidney stones, loneliness, finances, equipment, AD, and most of the other ailments and difficulties that quads face, and it saddens me to read of others going through them. It's also a little frightening because I know one act of carelessness or one stroke of bad luck and I could very well find myself dealing with these same problems again. One of the best things about participating here is the flip-side of the problems we face and that is reading about the different ways people cope, and it's fun to see how the different personality types express themselves, especially when they're facing problems. But the coolest posts here are the level-headed, reasonable responses like Ron Pracht's and Don Price's in this thread. They often respond in the way I wish I could. And while Don and I disagree on some things, he never fails to make his point, and I usually end up wishing I had said we did. Whether you have a God or not, we all face many of the same problems while we're here, and this forum is a good resource for finding solutions to a lot of them. I'm glad it's here and I'm glad to have so many perspectives available. The cussing just adds a little spice to the dish and I don't mind it at all. In fact, I rather like it. It's honest and it doesn't hurt anyone. Greg c5 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:55 PM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: > I like the fact people have different feelings and express them on here > about being a quad It depresses me when all I read is people saying that > life is better since they have been paralyzed and everything is wonderful. I > get energized when I hear the real stories of people making is through the > struggles and making some good out of it. Bobbie is alright, shes rolling > along getting her chair ordered and dealing with everyday life.she > just expresses her frustration along the way..and thats ok with me. As > long as your moving forward as best you can a few cuss words are in order. > > ron c7 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Don Price wrote: > I appreciated the story, Danny. Thank you for sharing something so > personal. Those kind of stories give me chills, even though I struggle with > faith. > True, there is pain and suffering in the world. On the other hand there is > great beauty and joy. Babies, mountains, life and love all seem too > miraculous to be purely chance. But, everyone is free to their beliefs. > We can't put ourselves in other people's shoes [or chairs,] so I try to > accept what others feel and how they adapt/cope to life with SCI. > Bobbie, I know you have been going through hell [and a case of the blahs] > and I hope things improve. > Don.
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Lol, Greg-- Well the woman ate first BUT the man also did. ( also it was fruit-may have been apple but may have been something else ) thanks for the nice comments everyone! I think all of mankind has questioned at onetime or another wheather there is a God or not, Like Merideth or one of the posts said about how he can reveal himself to different people , probably in many different ways. As for Bobbie, i wish you the best, Life can be tough and confusing for anyone ! Even more so when pain and disabilities are present, I know I suffer with bad pain and a syrinx myself. Right now i'm getting some bad autonomic dysreflexia at nightdue to my stupiity in trying to use a heat pack too far down my back causing a silver dollar sized pressure type sore. I love those microwaveable bed buddy hot/cold packs, Bet from now on i'll use it around my neck like I have done for a few years. Dan H** From: greg To: quadlist Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 5:52:30 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad But why does he also blame man for what a woman did? I hate apples, I'd of left it alone... :-) > Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has > proved to me that he is real several times in my life, > First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple > instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the > Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the > Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely > DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was > the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He > saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer > and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any > interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years > ago. I have it wrote down date and all in > a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful > lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was > obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of > those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I > had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, > GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body > and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's > ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified > thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in > the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what > was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before > me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a > loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all > mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of > Earth's gravity. > ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means > nothing ! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world > ! ) At that point he spoke again saying.see that's what I've > been trying to tell or show you. Then very swiftly as if he by his > hand or some force shoved me back into my body !!!. As soon as I > was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain and > gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a > nut or Crazy) but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me > to tell someone ( anyone ) about this REAL experience from time to > time. My Wife Leeann believes me and said she wishes God would > show or give her a unique experience sometime also. With love, > Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. > > From: Todd > To: "jume9...@comcast.net" > Cc: quad-list > Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > 7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > > >> Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good >> things about being a quad. >> >> 1. Good parking (most of the time) >> 2. You meet kind people >> 3. You know more about technology than most. >> 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha >> 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn >> all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows >> >> C,mon add your own, funny or not. >> But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, >> and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad >> >> >> Meredith >> >> > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are >
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Thanks Ron.Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2012, at 5:55 PM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: > I like the fact people have different feelings and express them on here about > being a quad It depresses me when all I read is people saying that life is > better since they have been paralyzed and everything is wonderful. I get > energized when I hear the real stories of people making is through the > struggles and making some good out of it. Bobbie is alright, shes rolling > along getting her chair ordered and dealing with everyday life.she > just expresses her frustration along the way..and thats ok with me. As > long as your moving forward as best you can a few cuss words are in order. > > ron c7 > > From: "diannal...@aol.com" > To: toby.aus...@yahoo.com; lwillis82...@msn.com; quad-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 2:13:57 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > you didn't. it's just that a very small number here have rotten attidudes! > Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho > and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug > my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause > such a fuse > > > > -Original Message- > From: Toby Ausbun > To: Larry Willis > Cc: quad-list > Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:28 pm > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho > and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug > my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause > such a fuse > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > >> The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that >> doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of >> us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell >> over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I >> don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is >> a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst >> enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great >> day. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>> From: "Joan Anglin" >>> Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >>> To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >>> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >>> >> >>> Hi Toby >>> I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >>> for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for >>> many years for some of us on this list. >>> I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >>> completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and >>> have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have >>> helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody >>> out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we >>> have and what we have lost. >>> I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck >>> with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. >>> JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different >>> things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness >>> for each of our uniqueness. >>> Good to see you on the list. >>> Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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But why does he also blame man for what a woman did? I hate apples, I'd of left it alone... :-) > Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has > proved to me that he is real several times in my life, > First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple > instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the > Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the > Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely > DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was > the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He > saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer > and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any > interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years > ago. I have it wrote down date and all in > a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful > lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was > obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of > those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I > had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, > GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body > and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's > ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified > thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in > the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what > was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before > me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a > loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all > mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of > Earth's gravity. > ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means > nothing ! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world > ! ) At that point he spoke again saying.see that's what I've > been trying to tell or show you. Then very swiftly as if he by his > hand or some force shoved me back into my body !!!. As soon as I > was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain and > gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a > nut or Crazy) but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me > to tell someone ( anyone ) about this REAL experience from time to > time. My Wife Leeann believes me and said she wishes God would > show or give her a unique experience sometime also. With love, > Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. > > From: Todd > To: "jume9...@comcast.net" > Cc: quad-list > Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > 7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > > >> Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good >> things about being a quad. >> >> 1. Good parking (most of the time) >> 2. You meet kind people >> 3. You know more about technology than most. >> 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha >> 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn >> all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows >> >> C,mon add your own, funny or not. >> But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, >> and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad >> >> >> Meredith >> >> > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are > quads living in this world then that is PROOF that there in NO > FUCKING god > >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis >> wrote: >> >> >>> The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. >>> However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent >>> our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw >>> and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of >>> it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't >>> feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. >>> Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I >>> wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my >>> friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> >>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>>&g
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I appreciated the story, Danny. Thank you for sharing something so personal. Those kind of stories give me chills, even though I struggle with faith. True, there is pain and suffering in the world. On the other hand there is great beauty and joy. Babies, mountains, life and love all seem too miraculous to be purely chance. But, everyone is free to their beliefs. We can't put ourselves in other people's shoes [or chairs,] so I try to accept what others feel and how they adapt/cope to life with SCI. Bobbie, I know you have been going through hell [and a case of the blahs] and I hope things improve. Don. From: Danny Hearn To: Bobbie Humphreys Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Very funny Bobbie-- I did'nt know my experience would leave you feeling like a sheep ! Dan ** From: Bobbie Humphreys To: Danny Hearn Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 11:37:45 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Danny Hearn wrote: Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has proved to me that he is real several times in my life, >First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple >instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the Garden, God told >them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the Tree of Knowledge and if they >did he told them they would surely DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. >So in the begining It was the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have >eternal life. He saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to >suffer and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any >interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years ago. I >have it wrote down date and all in a notebook. I had been reading the >bible and praying an awful lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At >that time I was obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of Earth's gravity. ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means nothing ! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world ! ) At that point he spoke again saying.see that's what I've been trying to tell or show you. Then very swiftly as if he by his hand or some force shoved me back into my body !!!. As soon as I was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain and gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a nut or Crazy) but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me to tell someone ( anyone ) about this REAL experience from time to time. My Wife Leeann believes me and said she wishes God would show or give her a unique experience sometime also. With love, Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. > > > From: Todd >To: "jume9...@comcast.net" >Cc: quad-list >Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > >7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. > >On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > > >Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being >a quad. >> >>1. Good parking (most of the time) >>2. You meet kind people >>3. You know more about technology than most. >>4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha >>5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all >>nightte he >>6. Know the best television shows >> >>C,mon add your own, funny or not. >>But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am >>truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad >> >> >> >>Meredith >> >> >> >> >>Fuck the shit "It could be
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I like the fact people have different feelings and express them on here about being a quad It depresses me when all I read is people saying that life is better since they have been paralyzed and everything is wonderful. I get energized when I hear the real stories of people making is through the struggles and making some good out of it. Bobbie is alright, shes rolling along getting her chair ordered and dealing with everyday life.she just expresses her frustration along the way..and thats ok with me. As long as your moving forward as best you can a few cuss words are in order. ron c7 From: "diannal...@aol.com" To: toby.aus...@yahoo.com; lwillis82...@msn.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 2:13:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad you didn't. it's just that a very small number here have rotten attidudes! Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause such a fuse > -Original Message- From: Toby Ausbun To: Larry Willis Cc: quad-list Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause such a fuse Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > >Sent from my iPad > >Begin forwarded message: > > >Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>From: "Joan Anglin" >>Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >>To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >> >> Hi Toby >I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >for >more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many >years for some of us on this list. >I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >completes >that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared >many >unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This >is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the >same >spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. >I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with >ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach >of >us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but >we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our >uniqueness. >Good to see you on the list. >Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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you didn't. it's just that a very small number here have rotten attidudes! Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause such a fuse -Original Message- From: Toby Ausbun To: Larry Willis Cc: quad-list Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause such a fuse Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Joan Anglin" Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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that's too much time writing something so negative. best find something to do! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah -Original Message- From: Danny Hearn To: Bobbie Humphreys Cc: quad-list Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 1:56 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Very funny Bobbie-- I did'nt know my experience would leave you feeling like a sheep ! Dan ** From: Bobbie Humphreys To: Danny Hearn Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 11:37:45 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Danny Hearn wrote: Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has proved to me that he is real several times in my life, First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did )For any interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years ago. I have it wrote down date and all in a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of Earth's gravity. ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means nothing ! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world ! ) At that point he spoke again saying.see that's what I've been trying to tell or show you. Then very swiftly as if he by his hand or some force shoved me back into my body !!!. As soon as I was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain and gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a nut or Crazy) but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me to tell someone ( anyone ) about this REAL experience from time to time. My Wife Leeann believes me and said she wishes God would show or give her a unique experience sometime also. With love, Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. From: Todd To: "jume9...@comcast.net" Cc: quad-list Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad 7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being a quad. 1. Good parking (most of the time) 2. You meet kind people 3. You know more about technology than most. 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows C,mon add your own, funny or not. But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad Meredith Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-Fr
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Very funny Bobbie-- I did'nt know my experience would leave you feeling like a sheep ! Dan ** From: Bobbie Humphreys To: Danny Hearn Sent: Sun, August 26, 2012 11:37:45 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Danny Hearn wrote: Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has proved to me that he is real several times in my life, >First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple >instructions--- >man and women would have lived forever in the Garden, God told them of all >things you may eat here EXCEPT the Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told >them they would surely DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the >begining It was the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal >life. >He saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer and die >a >horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any interested I'll tell >one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years ago. I have it wrote down date >and all in a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful >lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was obsessed with >home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of those nights when me and >my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I had eyes closed and was trying too >also-Then next thing I knew, GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner >being out of my body and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and >my wife's ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified >thinking >I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in the room..about >that time while I was trying to understand what was going on-- GOD ( somehow >) >showed me --Flashed it before me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or >statements. Then in a loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does >it all mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of Earth's >gravity. ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means >nothing >! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world ! ) At that point >he spoke again saying.see that's what I've been trying to tell or show >you. >Then very swiftly as if he by his hand or some force shoved me back into my >body >!!!. As soon as I was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain >and >gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a nut or Crazy) >but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me to tell someone ( anyone >) >about this REAL experience from time to time. My Wife Leeann believes me and >said she wishes God would show or give her a unique experience sometime >also. With love, Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. > ____ From: Todd >To: "jume9...@comcast.net" >Cc: quad-list >Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > >7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. > >On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > > >Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being >a >quad. >> >>1. Good parking (most of the time) >>2. You meet kind people >>3. You know more about technology than most. >>4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha >>5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all >>nightte >>he >>6. Know the best television shows >> >>C,mon add your own, funny or not. >>But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am >>truly >>blessed even as a frickin' Quad >> >> >> >>Meredith >> >> >> >> >>Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living >>in >>this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god >> >> >>Sent from my iPad >> >>On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: >> >> >>The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't >>mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the >>list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the >>unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't >>feel >>blessed because some other poor soul is in wo
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If their wasn't a god you probably wouldn't be here today Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:38 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote: > that's a little offensive..statement and language :/ > > ~LittleQuad~ > > From: Bobbie Humphreys > To: Larry Willis > Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living > in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > >> The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that >> doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of >> us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell >> over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I >> don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is >> a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst >> enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great >> day. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>> From: "Joan Anglin" >>> Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >>> To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >>> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >>> >>> Hi Toby >>> I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >>> for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for >>> many years for some of us on this list. >>> I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >>> completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and >>> have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have >>> helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody >>> out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we >>> have and what we have lost. >>> I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck >>> with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. >>> JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different >>> things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness >>> for each of our uniqueness. >>> Good to see you on the list. >>> Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires > >
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From: jume9...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad
To: "quad-list"
Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 9:47 PM
#yiv106204291 p {margin:0;}Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are
some good things about being a quad.
1. Good parking (most of the time)
2. You meet kind people
3. You know more about technology than most.
4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha
5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all nightte
he
6. Know the best television shows (I'll second that)
7. For the guys, boobs are at eye level :)
C,mon add your own, funny or not.
But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am truly
blessed even as a frickin' Quad
Meredith
Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living
in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote:
The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't
mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the
list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the
unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel
blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell
that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had
one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day.
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: "Joan Anglin"
Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT
To: "'Toby Ausbun'" ,
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad
Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and
wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations
for many years for some of us on this list.I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4
complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we
can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over
the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and
know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some
empathy for what we have and what we have lost.I have always wished for one arm
and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I
never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things,
and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our
handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness.Good to see
you on the list.Joan C4 1990 in
smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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We take very little to nothing for granted. On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about > being a quad. > > 1. Good parking (most of the time) > 2. You meet kind people > 3. You know more about technology than most. > 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha > 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all > nightte he > 6. Know the best television shows > > C,mon add your own, funny or not. > But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am > truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad > > > > Meredith > > > > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living > in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com > From: "Joan Anglin" > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT > To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Hi Toby > > I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing > for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for > many years for some of us on this list. > > I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 > completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and > have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped > each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there > has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what > we have lost. > > I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck > with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. > JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different > things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for > each of our uniqueness. > > Good to see you on the list. > > Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Ditch the morophine. DD aka Dianna Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god -Original Message- From: Bobbie Humphreys To: Larry Willis Cc: quad-list Sent: Sat, Aug 25, 2012 3:25 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Joan Anglin" Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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that's a little offensive..statement and language :/ ~LittleQuad~ From: Bobbie Humphreys To: Larry Willis Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > >Sent from my iPad > >Begin forwarded message: > > >Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>From: "Joan Anglin" >>Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >>To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >> >> >Hi Toby >>I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >>for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for >>many years for some of us on this list. >>I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >>completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and >>have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped >>each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there >>has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what >>we have lost. >>I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck >>with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. >>JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different >>things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for >>each of our uniqueness. >>Good to see you on the list. >>Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Whoever stated that there is no GOD -- is dead wrong-- he has proved to me that he is real several times in my life, First of all mankind introduced sin by going against gods simple instructions--- man and women would have lived forever in the Garden, God told them of all things you may eat here EXCEPT the Tree of Knowledge and if they did he told them they would surely DIE. God does not sin and does not lie. So in the begining It was the perfect set-up, now we must die to ever have eternal life. He saw that manking was so sinful that he even sent his son to suffer and die a horrible death for us ( which he willing did ) For any interested I'll tell one incident he showed me about 3 or 4 years ago. I have it wrote down date and all in a notebook. I had been reading the bible and praying an awful lot for God to give me wisdom and guidance, At that time I was obsessed with home, cars or a van, bills money and etc. Well one of those nights when me and my wife went to bed--she was asleep but I had eyes closed and was trying too also-Then next thing I knew, GOD had somehow took my soul/spirit or inner being out of my body and had me floating up about Four feet or so ABOVE me and my wife's ( Leeann's ) bodies.During this time I was mystified thinking I'm completely out of my body but can see everything, in the room..about that time while I was trying to understand what was going on-- GOD ( somehow ) showed me --Flashed it before me---Houses, Cars and large bank accounts or statements. Then in a loud clear voice, He spoke to my mind saying ( what does it all mean now??? ) I was so light and free of pain or feeling of Earth's gravity. ( I felt so good it's hard to describe ) Then I said ( means nothing ! your more important than Anything in the whole wide world ! ) At that point he spoke again saying.see that's what I've been trying to tell or show you. Then very swiftly as if he by his hand or some force shoved me back into my body !!!. As soon as I was in my body again, I felt very very heavy feeling pain and gravity's pull once again. ( I know some of you will think I'm a nut or Crazy) but I do not mind at allI just feel he wants me to tell someone ( anyone ) about this REAL experience from time to time. My Wife Leeann believes me and said she wishes God would show or give her a unique experience sometime also. With love, Dan H. C-6 15- Plus years post. St. louis Area. From: Todd To: "jume9...@comcast.net" Cc: quad-list Sent: Sat, August 25, 2012 5:50:35 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad 7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being a quad. > >1. Good parking (most of the time) >2. You meet kind people >3. You know more about technology than most. >4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha >5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all >nightte >he >6. Know the best television shows > >C,mon add your own, funny or not. >But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am >truly >blessed even as a frickin' Quad > > > >Meredith > > > > >Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living >in >this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god > > >Sent from my iPad > >On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > > >The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't >mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the >list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the >unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel >blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of >hell >that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had >one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. >> >>Sent from my iPad >> >>Begin forwarded message: >> >> >>Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >>>From: "Joan Anglin" >>>Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >>>To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >>>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >>> >>> >Hi Toby >>I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >>for >>more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many >>years for some of us on this list. >>I only have shoulde
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11. When you shit your pants, people often pretend not to notice. Greg c/5 On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Lissette Whitehead wrote: > 7. Don't have to wait in line sometimes. > 8. No need to use public bathrooms (most of the time) > > 9. Don't have to worry about finding a place to sit > > 10. Often get special tratment > > > Lissette Whitehead > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > > Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about > being a quad. > > 1. Good parking (most of the time) > 2. You meet kind people > 3. You know more about technology than most. > 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha > 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all > nightte he > 6. Know the best television shows > > C,mon add your own, funny or not. > But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am > truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad > > Meredith > >
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7. We can still have children. My boy turned 9 last month. On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about > being a quad. > > 1. Good parking (most of the time) > 2. You meet kind people > 3. You know more about technology than most. > 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha > 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all > nightte he > 6. Know the best television shows > > C,mon add your own, funny or not. > But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am > truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad > > > > Meredith > > > > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living > in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com > From: "Joan Anglin" > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT > To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Hi Toby > > I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing > for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for > many years for some of us on this list. > > I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 > completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and > have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped > each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there > has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what > we have lost. > > I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck > with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. > JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different > things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for > each of our uniqueness. > > Good to see you on the list. > > Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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7. Don't have to wait in line sometimes. 8. No need to use public bathrooms (most of the time) 9. Don't have to worry about finding a place to sit 10. Often get special tratment Lissette Whitehead 1177 Broadway Ste. 18, apt. 127 Chula Vista, CA 91911 www.lwgripgloves.com From: bobbie...@aol.com To: jume9...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 18:22:08 -0400 CC: quad-list@eskimo.com Meredith, Absolutely,there are positive things about quadrum. Let's me think - ummm, ummm, u, I'm thinking, um, um, dam I almost thought of something. Um, um, nope it must of slipped my mind. Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being a quad. 1. Good parking (most of the time) 2. You meet kind people 3. You know more about technology than most. 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows C,mon add your own, funny or not. But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad Meredith Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Joan Anglin" Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list.I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost.I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness.Good to see you on the list.Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Meredith, Absolutely,there are positive things about quadrum. Let's me think - ummm, ummm, u, I'm thinking, um, um, dam I almost thought of something. Um, um, nope it must of slipped my mind. Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 5:47 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote: > Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about > being a quad. > > 1. Good parking (most of the time) > 2. You meet kind people > 3. You know more about technology than most. > 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha > 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all > nightte he > 6. Know the best television shows > > C,mon add your own, funny or not. > But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am > truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad > > > > Meredith > > > > Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living > in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com > From: "Joan Anglin" > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT > To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Hi Toby > > I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing > for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for > many years for some of us on this list. > > I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 > completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and > have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped > each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there > has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what > we have lost. > > I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck > with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. > JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different > things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for > each of our uniqueness. > > Good to see you on the list. > > Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Hey Guys, how about something positive. There are some good things about being a quad. 1. Good parking (most of the time) 2. You meet kind people 3. You know more about technology than most. 4. You don't wear out shoes too fast...haha 5. People like to sleep with you because we don't toss and turn all nightte he 6. Know the best television shows C,mon add your own, funny or not. But most important Bobbie, I learned that there truly is a God, and I am truly blessed even as a frickin' Quad Meredith Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis < lwillis82...@msn.com > wrote: The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Joan Anglin" < poaj...@sbcglobal.net > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" < toby.aus...@yahoo.com >, < quad-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. J Each of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Fuck the shit "It could be worse crap!" As long as there are quads living in this world .… then that is PROOF that there in NO FUCKING god Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >> From: "Joan Anglin" >> Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >> To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >> > >> Hi Toby >> >> I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >> for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for >> many years for some of us on this list. >> >> I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >> completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and >> have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have >> helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody >> out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we >> have and what we have lost. >> >> I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck >> with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. >> JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different >> things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness >> for each of our uniqueness. >> >> Good to see you on the list. >> >> Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Well said Joan! Patrick C6-7 --- On Fri, 8/24/12, Joan Anglin wrote: From: Joan Anglin Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, August 24, 2012, 9:10 PM Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list.I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost.I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness.Good to see you on the list.Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Well said Larry I was just frustrated when I wrote that's are so right tho and I know theirs is some one worse off then me alls I'm able to do is shrug my shoulders but Larry hit the nail right on the head !!!sorry to cause such a fuse Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Larry Willis wrote: > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > >> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com >> From: "Joan Anglin" >> Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT >> To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , >> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad >> >> Hi Toby >> >> I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing >> for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for >> many years for some of us on this list. >> >> I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 >> completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and >> have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have >> helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody >> out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we >> have and what we have lost. >> >> I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck >> with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. >> JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different >> things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness >> for each of our uniqueness. >> >> Good to see you on the list. >> >> Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires >>
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Does that me that being mistaken for a Para is a compliment? Best Wishes In a message dated 8/25/2012 10:54:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, todd.daughe...@gmail.com writes: I think we would all agree that any minute thing that makes our lives more bearable is a good thing and in no way is meant to mean anything negative towards those in worse situations. That being said, I did hate those cocky paras whizzing up and down the hallways when I was in Shepherd Center. That was over 20 yrs ago though Todd On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:16 AM, "Danny Espinoza" <_Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ (mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) > wrote: I agree 100% From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:55 AM To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) From: "Joan Anglin" <_poajoan@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net) > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" <_toby.ausbun@yahoo.com_ (mailto:toby.aus...@yahoo.com) >, <_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires =
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I think we would all agree that any minute thing that makes our lives more bearable is a good thing and in no way is meant to mean anything negative towards those in worse situations. That being said, I did hate those cocky paras whizzing up and down the hallways when I was in Shepherd Center. That was over 20 yrs ago though Todd On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:16 AM, "Danny Espinoza" wrote: > I agree 100% > > From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:55 AM > To: quad-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't > mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the > list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the > unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't > feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit > of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy > (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com > From: "Joan Anglin" > Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT > To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , > Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad > > Hi Toby > I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing > for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for > many years for some of us on this list. > I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 > completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and > have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped > each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there > has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what > we have lost. > I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck > with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. > JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different > things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for > each of our uniqueness. > Good to see you on the list. > Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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I agree 100% From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:55 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad The old adage that "It could be worse" is so very true. However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't grieve our loss or vent our frustrations. All of us on the list drew the short straw and I imagine all of us get mad as hell over the unfairness of it all. I appreciate the little movement I have but I don't feel blessed because some other poor soul is in worse shape. Quadom is a bit of hell that simply varies in degree. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (if I had one). Thanks, my friends, for letting me rant. Have a great day. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: "Joan Anglin" Date: August 25, 2012 12:10:30 AM EDT To: "'Toby Ausbun'" , Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: [quad] list. Being a quad Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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Hi Toby I didn’t take it as complaining but more as a statement of fact and wishing for more. We have been talking about our limitations and frustrations for many years for some of us on this list. I only have shoulder shrugs as a C4 complete, but do know of other C4 completes that have more. So we use what we can and learn to make do and have shared many unusual fixes and adaptions over the years which have helped each other. This is one place we can whine and know that somebody out there has been in the same spot and can have some empathy for what we have and what we have lost. I have always wished for one arm and a somewhat working hand, and to heck with ever walking again because I never need to look for a chair to sit in. JEach of us wants different things, and each of us mourns about different things but we’re all united by our handicaps in some way. Thank goodness for each of our uniqueness. Good to see you on the list. Joan C4 1990 in smoky Reno Nevada due to the California fires
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This was obviously a jab at my post. I said I was 'blessed' to get back one finger YEARS later, not complaining. And I have every right to complain as much as any quad. We all have $&@?'ed up bodies, just on different levels. So if I'm not a complete high level quad I can't complain about anything?? On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Toby Ausbun wrote: > People shouldn't complain about being able to only have the use of one finger > or throw things when you have no use of your hands or arms at all if your a > higher injury c4 complete!! > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:04 PM, "John S." wrote: > >> $#@# Walking, I WANNA MOVE MY HANDS ! >> john >> From: Dave Krehbiel >> To: quad-list@eskimo.com >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:02 AM >> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >> >> Thanks, this is a great list. >> >> I would add one other misconception - that we need their help to cross the >> street. When I'm trying to cross a road in my wheelchair, some people react >> quite unpredictably. For example, people driving on a 4 Lane road will often >> try to be polite by stopping and blocking one of the Lanes, probably >> thinking that I want to rush across the street through 3 other lanes of >> traffic. Often, well-meaning people will stop in the middle of an >> intersection, causing traffic back-ups. I am much more interested in >> crossing the road safely rather than crossing it quickly. I would prefer >> that people act more predictably. I wish they would simply obey the speed >> limit, use their turn signals, and put down their cell phones. I'm happy to >> wait a minute or two for five until traffic clears out. >> >> Dave Krehbiel >> >> From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:31 PM >> To: quadlist >> Subject: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >> >> http://www.spinalcordinjury-paralysis.org/dailydose/2012/08/06/top-9-myths-people-believe-about-individuals-livin >> >> Here are the results to our question along with some of the commentary from >> our community: >> >> What is the # 1 myth you think the general public believes about individuals >> living with paralysis? >> >> 1. Not interested or can't have sex. (19.0%) >> Yes, somethings still work. - Chill >> >> 2. Life must be so sad. (18.0%) >> A lot of peple think that we are not suppose to be intelligent, productive >> people who enjoy living a full life doing those very same things that people >> who are not paralyzed like to do. We work, fall in love, get married and >> raise a family, we have a social life, >> yes we do enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. - Marva >> >> 3. Number one wish is to walk. (14.8%) >> Every opportunity I get I let people know that paralysis is so much more >> than not walking. Yes, I tell them I can't poop or pee on my own...to >> complete strangers but they need to know!!! - Wheelchair Mama >> >> 4. Mind must not work either. (13.0%) >> People seem to automatically associate impaired physical function with a >> mental deficiency. I often meet their comments with: "I broke my spine, not >> my mind." - Catherine >> >> 5. Must not have any pain. (9.9%) >> People think, well your paralyzed that means you can't feel anything how >> could you possibly have pain? (My husband) lives with indescribable nerve >> pain, the worst in his hands and in his feet and butt. - Susan >> >> 6. Unable to have a successful career/family/life. (9.2%) >> So many people want to blow sunshine up our a**es, or, want to believe that >> we are bitter if we don't have hope of ever walking again. But in reality, >> many of us have come to terms with our respective situations and have chosen >> to make the best of it. - CJohn >> >> 7. Only medical problem is the paralysis. (8.8%) >> There is significant neuropathic pain, bowel and bladder control, fighting >> with insurance companies, reduced energy, changed relationships, loss of >> independence, lack of access to our homes an no financial help for needed >> accessibility adaptions or exercise equipment, increased infections >> (especially UTIs)' and lack of appropriate sensation that allows for some >> spectacular accidents (and AD). - Shel >> >> 8. Have all expenses paid by the government. (3.9%) >> "So, how do you get by? Social Security?" Yeah, because we, as individuals, >> are part of a disadvantaged minority group, we all must either be on the >> government dole, or looking for a handout. And because the former must be >> true, we all must be liberals. - CJohn >> >> 9. Always want help. (3.5%) >> No matter what an someone is, I should alway's be nice and gratefully >> for any unwanted help I get! - Ben >> >> All of the above are myths, some are just more pervasive. >> >> > =
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I also can not imagine not being able to give someone a hug. I ran into a girlfriend of mine who is also a C-6,7 quad who use's a power chair like me and we both "ran" to each other and tried to embrace but we were unable because our armrests got in the way. But I at least can hug my family and other friends. I'd miss that a lot if I couldn't. Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Bobbie Humphreys wrote: > You are s very right about that statement! I have a tricep muscle in > my right arm only which allows me to raise my arm straight up over my head. > With this movement I am able to put a winter coat on/off by myself and reach > things I can't with my other arm. Bobbie > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Toby Ausbun wrote: > >> People shouldn't complain about being able to only have the use of one >> finger or throw things when you have no use of your hands or arms at all if >> your a higher injury c4 complete!! >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:04 PM, "John S." wrote: >> >>> $#@# Walking, I WANNA MOVE MY HANDS ! >>> john >>> From: Dave Krehbiel >>> To: quad-list@eskimo.com >>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:02 AM >>> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >>> >>> Thanks, this is a great list. >>> >>> I would add one other misconception - that we need their help to cross the >>> street. When I'm trying to cross a road in my wheelchair, some people >>> react quite unpredictably. For example, people driving on a 4 Lane road >>> will often try to be polite by stopping and blocking one of the Lanes, >>> probably thinking that I want to rush across the street through 3 other >>> lanes of traffic. Often, well-meaning people will stop in the middle of an >>> intersection, causing traffic back-ups. I am much more interested in >>> crossing the road safely rather than crossing it quickly. I would prefer >>> that people act more predictably. I wish they would simply obey the speed >>> limit, use their turn signals, and put down their cell phones. I'm happy to >>> wait a minute or two for five until traffic clears out. >>> >>> Dave Krehbiel >>> >>> From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:31 PM >>> To: quadlist >>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >>> >>> http://www.spinalcordinjury-paralysis.org/dailydose/2012/08/06/top-9-myths-people-believe-about-individuals-livin >>> >>> Here are the results to our question along with some of the commentary from >>> our community: >>> >>> What is the # 1 myth you think the general public believes about >>> individuals living with paralysis? >>> >>> 1. Not interested or can't have sex. (19.0%) >>> Yes, somethings still work. - Chill >>> >>> 2. Life must be so sad. (18.0%) >>> A lot of peple think that we are not suppose to be intelligent, productive >>> people who enjoy living a full life doing those very same things that >>> people who are not paralyzed like to do. We work, fall in love, get married >>> and raise a family, we have a social life, >>> yes we do enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. - Marva >>> >>> 3. Number one wish is to walk. (14.8%) >>> Every opportunity I get I let people know that paralysis is so much more >>> than not walking. Yes, I tell them I can't poop or pee on my own...to >>> complete strangers but they need to know!!! - Wheelchair Mama >>> >>> 4. Mind must not work either. (13.0%) >>> People seem to automatically associate impaired physical function with a >>> mental deficiency. I often meet their comments with: "I broke my spine, not >>> my mind." - Catherine >>> >>> 5. Must not have any pain. (9.9%) >>> People think, well your paralyzed that means you can't feel anything how >>> could you possibly have pain? (My husband) lives with indescribable nerve >>> pain, the worst in his hands and in his feet and butt. - Susan >>> >>> 6. Unable to have a successful career/family/life. (9.2%) >>> So many people want to blow sunshine up our a**es, or, want to believe that >>> we are bitter if we don't have hope of ever walking again. But in reality, >>> many of us have come to terms with our respective situations and have >>> chosen to make the best of it. - CJohn >>> >>> 7. Only medical problem is the paralysis. (8.8%) >>> There is significant neuropathic pain, bowel and bladder control, fighting >>> with insurance companies, reduced energy, changed relationships, loss of >>> independence, lack of access to our homes an no financial help for needed >>> accessibility adaptions or exercise equipment, increased infections >>> (especially UTIs)' and lack of appropriate sensation that allows for some >>> spectacular accidents (and AD). - Shel >>> >>> 8. Have all expenses paid by the government. (3.9%) >>> "So, how do you get by? Social Security?" Yeah, because we, as individuals, >>> are part of a disadvan
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You are s very right about that statement! I have a tricep muscle in my right arm only which allows me to raise my arm straight up over my head. With this movement I am able to put a winter coat on/off by myself and reach things I can't with my other arm. Bobbie Sent from my iPad On Aug 24, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Toby Ausbun wrote: > People shouldn't complain about being able to only have the use of one finger > or throw things when you have no use of your hands or arms at all if your a > higher injury c4 complete!! > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:04 PM, "John S." wrote: > >> $#@# Walking, I WANNA MOVE MY HANDS ! >> john >> From: Dave Krehbiel >> To: quad-list@eskimo.com >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:02 AM >> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >> >> Thanks, this is a great list. >> >> I would add one other misconception - that we need their help to cross the >> street. When I'm trying to cross a road in my wheelchair, some people react >> quite unpredictably. For example, people driving on a 4 Lane road will often >> try to be polite by stopping and blocking one of the Lanes, probably >> thinking that I want to rush across the street through 3 other lanes of >> traffic. Often, well-meaning people will stop in the middle of an >> intersection, causing traffic back-ups. I am much more interested in >> crossing the road safely rather than crossing it quickly. I would prefer >> that people act more predictably. I wish they would simply obey the speed >> limit, use their turn signals, and put down their cell phones. I'm happy to >> wait a minute or two for five until traffic clears out. >> >> Dave Krehbiel >> >> From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:31 PM >> To: quadlist >> Subject: [QUAD-L] Top Nine Myths about People with Paralysis >> >> http://www.spinalcordinjury-paralysis.org/dailydose/2012/08/06/top-9-myths-people-believe-about-individuals-livin >> >> Here are the results to our question along with some of the commentary from >> our community: >> >> What is the # 1 myth you think the general public believes about individuals >> living with paralysis? >> >> 1. Not interested or can't have sex. (19.0%) >> Yes, somethings still work. - Chill >> >> 2. Life must be so sad. (18.0%) >> A lot of peple think that we are not suppose to be intelligent, productive >> people who enjoy living a full life doing those very same things that people >> who are not paralyzed like to do. We work, fall in love, get married and >> raise a family, we have a social life, >> yes we do enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. - Marva >> >> 3. Number one wish is to walk. (14.8%) >> Every opportunity I get I let people know that paralysis is so much more >> than not walking. Yes, I tell them I can't poop or pee on my own...to >> complete strangers but they need to know!!! - Wheelchair Mama >> >> 4. Mind must not work either. (13.0%) >> People seem to automatically associate impaired physical function with a >> mental deficiency. I often meet their comments with: "I broke my spine, not >> my mind." - Catherine >> >> 5. Must not have any pain. (9.9%) >> People think, well your paralyzed that means you can't feel anything how >> could you possibly have pain? (My husband) lives with indescribable nerve >> pain, the worst in his hands and in his feet and butt. - Susan >> >> 6. Unable to have a successful career/family/life. (9.2%) >> So many people want to blow sunshine up our a**es, or, want to believe that >> we are bitter if we don't have hope of ever walking again. But in reality, >> many of us have come to terms with our respective situations and have chosen >> to make the best of it. - CJohn >> >> 7. Only medical problem is the paralysis. (8.8%) >> There is significant neuropathic pain, bowel and bladder control, fighting >> with insurance companies, reduced energy, changed relationships, loss of >> independence, lack of access to our homes an no financial help for needed >> accessibility adaptions or exercise equipment, increased infections >> (especially UTIs)' and lack of appropriate sensation that allows for some >> spectacular accidents (and AD). - Shel >> >> 8. Have all expenses paid by the government. (3.9%) >> "So, how do you get by? Social Security?" Yeah, because we, as individuals, >> are part of a disadvantaged minority group, we all must either be on the >> government dole, or looking for a handout. And because the former must be >> true, we all must be liberals. - CJohn >> >> 9. Always want help. (3.5%) >> No matter what an someone is, I should alway's be nice and gratefully >> for any unwanted help I get! - Ben >> >> All of the above are myths, some are just more pervasive. >> >>
