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forget what she "should have done". how long have u had it? & y can't it b returned? hat does case-manager say? Patricia L. B pl...@yahoo.com while adding years to your life, add life to your years On Monday, April 28, 2014 11:16 AM, Don Smith wrote: I think voc. rehab should have been the one to handle things and they should help you replace the vehicle that your case worker purchased for you with the grant money. You didn't mention where the grant came from or who the case worker is worker is employed by, but you should have been evaluated to see what type of vehicle was needed for you before it was purchased. It sounds like your case worker may not give a care. What state are you in? From: Nadeana Halamar To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] transportation im a 31 one year old 7 yrs a quad and single mother. I have gotten myself in trouble being my own advocate. i only have one caseworker and one homehealth agency left that will take my case. ( im a difficult case) i guess. neway they know this so i have to take their crap. i had recieved a grant for a van that i could get converted so i could get around. i trusted my caseworker with it and the vehicle she got cant be converted. im going through voc rehab for drivers training, but now i have a vehicle im paying insurance on and cant do anything with it. i dont know what to do i cant have a car payment i only make 720 a mo. anyone know who i can get in touch with
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true Dan. "The Impossible Only Takes A Little Longer" Best Wishes In a message dated 4/28/2014 2:06:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes: True--a mistake was made getting the wrong van but as a quad sometimes things can work in your favor...Perhaps you can clean up the Van you bought and sell it locally or on Craigslist for ALL your money back OR even make a profit off it-- to put towards a different Van. I have found that things don't always work out fast as i'd like but many times turn out for the best! . Some towns or cities have public transportation such as CALL A RIDE here in St. Louis, Mo. area, that may get you around for a while. I heard that bigger cities like Chicago or some in California have great public wheelchair transportation access. (hope things work out for you ! ) Dan H. From: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: nadea...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] transportation It appears that someone didn't do their homework and allowed others to make very important decisions for them and now have buyer's remorse. Taking charge of one's life is so important these days. Allowing others, including Government Agencies, to make decisions for you is much too risky. In your case, those making decisions for your transportation are not doing you right and I would hold their feet to the fire. I would suggest that you become more involved with your present and future. I wish you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 4/27/2014 7:05:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nadea...@gmail.com writes: im a 31 one year old 7 yrs a quad and single mother. I have gotten myself in trouble being my own advocate. i only have one caseworker and one homehealth agency left that will take my case. ( im a difficult case) i guess. neway they know this so i have to take their crap. i had recieved a grant for a van that i could get converted so i could get around. i trusted my caseworker with it and the vehicle she got cant be converted. im going through voc rehab for drivers training, but now i have a vehicle im paying insurance on and cant do anything with it. i dont know what to do i cant have a car payment i only make 720 a mo. anyone know who i can get in touch with
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True--a mistake was made getting the wrong van but as a quad sometimes things can work in your favor...Perhaps you can clean up the Van you bought and sell it locally or on Craigslist for ALL your money back OR even make a profit off it-- to put towards a different Van. I have found that things don't always work out fast as i'd like but many times turn out for the best! . Some towns or cities have public transportation such as CALL A RIDE here in St. Louis, Mo. area, that may get you around for a while. I heard that bigger cities like Chicago or some in California have great public wheelchair transportation access. (hope things work out for you ! ) Dan H. From: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: nadea...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] transportation It appears that someone didn't do their homework and allowed others to make very important decisions for them and now have buyer's remorse. Taking charge of one's life is so important these days. Allowing others, including Government Agencies, to make decisions for you is much too risky. In your case, those making decisions for your transportation are not doing you right and I would hold their feet to the fire. I would suggest that you become more involved with your present and future. I wish you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 4/27/2014 7:05:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nadea...@gmail.com writes: im a 31 one year old 7 yrs a quad and single mother. I have gotten myself in trouble being my own advocate. i only have one caseworker and one homehealth agency left that will take my case. ( im a difficult case) i guess. neway they know this so i have to take their crap. i had recieved a grant for a van that i could get converted so i could get around. i trusted my caseworker with it and the vehicle she got cant be converted. im going through voc rehab for drivers training, but now i have a vehicle im paying insurance on and cant do anything with it. i dont know what to do i cant have a car payment i only make 720 a mo. anyone know who i can get in touch with
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It appears that someone didn't do their homework and allowed others to make very important decisions for them and now have buyer's remorse. Taking charge of one's life is so important these days. Allowing others, including Government Agencies, to make decisions for you is much too risky. In your case, those making decisions for your transportation are not doing you right and I would hold their feet to the fire. I would suggest that you become more involved with your present and future. I wish you the best. Best Wishes In a message dated 4/27/2014 7:05:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nadea...@gmail.com writes: im a 31 one year old 7 yrs a quad and single mother. I have gotten myself in trouble being my own advocate. i only have one caseworker and one homehealth agency left that will take my case. ( im a difficult case) i guess. neway they know this so i have to take their crap. i had recieved a grant for a van that i could get converted so i could get around. i trusted my caseworker with it and the vehicle she got cant be converted. im going through voc rehab for drivers training, but now i have a vehicle im paying insurance on and cant do anything with it. i dont know what to do i cant have a car payment i only make 720 a mo. anyone know who i can get in touch with
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I think voc. rehab should have been the one to handle things and they should help you replace the vehicle that your case worker purchased for you with the grant money. You didn't mention where the grant came from or who the case worker is worker is employed by, but you should have been evaluated to see what type of vehicle was needed for you before it was purchased. It sounds like your case worker may not give a care. What state are you in? From: Nadeana Halamar To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:05 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] transportation im a 31 one year old 7 yrs a quad and single mother. I have gotten myself in trouble being my own advocate. i only have one caseworker and one homehealth agency left that will take my case. ( im a difficult case) i guess. neway they know this so i have to take their crap. i had recieved a grant for a van that i could get converted so i could get around. i trusted my caseworker with it and the vehicle she got cant be converted. im going through voc rehab for drivers training, but now i have a vehicle im paying insurance on and cant do anything with it. i dont know what to do i cant have a car payment i only make 720 a mo. anyone know who i can get in touch with
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Glad to hear the good news Monty-what was the problem with your arm, was it a pinched nerve??? Dan H. From: Monty To: quadriplegic Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 12:24:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] transportation would have gotten to go home from the hospital today but no transportation for my two hour trip home. Surgical site is looking wonderful it is just amazing what a good surgeon can do especially on the part of the lower arm between the elbow and the wrist! Truly no complaints about those physicians that I located online and never taken no from a doctor when you know better especially after you do your homework online about whatever medical issue you may be experiencing. Have a great day and take care from Monty of Indiana 3c/4c complete 17 years
Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Crisis in Jacksonville, Fl
John, I have an Assistive Tech loan and I'm sure you could get one in your state. http://www.faast.org/index.cfm I also found this site which might help others in need of equipment. http://www.familycafe.net/classifieds/ Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07/18/06 10:16:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Crisis in Jacksonville, Fl In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:14:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it out of your name untill it is repaired or sold and you can try to get another van. Keep something around in case you need to evacuate. Don't be ashamed to ask local churches for help fixing your van. I've heard of churches lending money at very low rates to assist handicapped who worked and payed them back. In fact, 0% loans are common. good luck, john Sell it to the church and let them repair it and sell it back to you when they are down. W
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It helps churches feel better about themselves , too john In a message dated 7/18/2006 11:15:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wheelchair writes: In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:14:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it out of your name untill it is repaired or sold and you can try to get another van. Keep something around in case you need to evacuate. Don't be ashamed to ask local churches for help fixing your van. I've heard of churches lending money at very low rates to assist handicapped who worked and payed them back. In fact, 0% loans are common. good luck, john Sell it to the church and let them repair it and sell it back to you when they are down. W
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In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:14:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it out of your name untill it is repaired or sold and you can try to get another van. Keep something around in case you need to evacuate. Don't be ashamed to ask local churches for help fixing your van. I've heard of churches lending money at very low rates to assist handicapped who worked and payed them back. In fact, 0% loans are common. good luck, john Sell it to the church and let them repair it and sell it back to you when they are down. W
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I have to agree. If your van is useless to you then get it out of your name untill it is repaired or sold and you can try to get another van. Keep something around in case you need to evacuate. Don't be ashamed to ask local churches for help fixing your van. I've heard of churches lending money at very low rates to assist handicapped who worked and payed them back. In fact, 0% loans are common. good luck, john P.S. I prefer begging myself. It helps people to feel better about themselves. A good day can make help a lot of folks feel better. In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:07:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just finished a telephone call with Jacksonville- CIL, and was advised of a major transportation crisis in that area of the country. The transportation company is near bankruptcy and has a list of reasons to disqualify people from using it. Bottom lines is that its much more rewarding to battle with a solvent transportation company, rather than one who is ready to closes its doors to everyone. Maybe, the best short answer to your problem is selling that old broken van to a friend for $1. This way you have no ownership, and thus requalify for that failing transport company, until it closes its doors. After that, your friend can resell the van back to you. Its merely fighting fire. with fire. Best Wishes W In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:44:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the e-mail I sent maybe something will happen.Austin
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Send the same letter to your state rep, state senator, the Dept. of Transportation and 2 or 3 local TV stations. Try to find out who the TV's investigative reporters are. It does get action. Bill age 55C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLI personally don't mind growing old, but my body's taking it badly. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Transportation Requirements in Jacksonville, Fla I personally wish you success in your efforts and have forward a copy of your letter to Matt Motko, Executive Director- CIL- Jacksonville, FL for their perusal and comments. I sincerely believe that you have a marketable story suitable for Dateline-TV Both Justin Dart and Ed Roberts, would be proud to see you follow tracks. Best Wishes W In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:44:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Honorable Governor Bush: I have been a C4-5 quadriplegic for the past eight years and a lifelong resident of our state. Prior to that I worked full-time with the fire department. The past eight years I was able to provide myself with safe and reliable transportation. I now find myself needing to access community transportation. My older model van and lift are in need of repairs and cannot provide me with safe and reliable service. I applied for the use of community transportation, explaining that my wheelchair lift did not provide me with safe and reliable use until it was replaced or professionally repaired, which I cannot afford to do. The few repairs made have been through friends with limited or no professional knowledge of this type of equipment.The community transportation of Jacksonville denied my application because I had access to a vehicle. I have repeatedly tried to explain the equipment I have is unsafe and their response has been, "its not our problem and you do not appreciate our rules. You should an use private pay transportation". Private pay is way beyond anyone's budget. Their appeals process was equally frustrating. Being approved for "medical trips only" provides absolutely no service in my particular situation. The appeals board apparently decided that I didn't need or have a right to access my pharmacy, dentist or ophthalmologist, purchase groceries, attend church services, or participate in any quality of life activities available to other citizens in our community. As a high level quadriplegic, I'm totally dependent upon others for my every need, such as access to reliable transportation and other services. These are vital life-sustaining issues with me. The idea that I have access to a van should have absolutely no bearing on my using federally funded transportation. Any disabled owner's van could be involved in a motor vehicle accident and be completely totaled. There are a variety of other reasons a disabled person's own vehicle would not be available when needed, such as the availability of a driver or lack of insurance.I feel that I and other disabled citizens have been discriminated against with this blanket denial of services. Able-bodied citizens owning motor vehicles, motorcycles, vans and trucks can readily use public transportation. To make someone on a fixed income spend their limited resources on private pay transport borderlines on gouging the least able to pay and the most vulnerable of citizens. This is unconscionable. The community transport vehicles specifically equipped for wheelchairs roam the streets of our city daily with only a driver and helper and the occasional user. I have been told of the limited resources available to community transportation, and having vehicles just drive around the city to provide someone a paycheck is not being a good steward of these funds.Sir, I would greatly appreciate any assistance your office may provide. I may be reached for all contact information by e-mail. I would love the opportunity to speak with someone concerning this matter. Respectfully,Austin WilsonJacksonville [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Jeremy, I use the America Red Cross wheelchair van when going to a medical appointment, and the City wheelchair bus for non-medical trips. I need to make an appointment for Red Cross a week before my appointment. The city bus only needs a 24 hour advance notice. I took the Red Cross van to my doctor's office last Thursday. It only took me an hour and a half from pick-up to drop-off. I send the Red Cross Transportation $25 each year, and I have a card that gets me on the city bus for .35 cents. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Jeremy Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions?
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In a message dated 10/7/2005 6:56:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call Medicaide? No. Call the bus service. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM & Yahoo ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
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Call Medicaide? On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 10/7/2005 3:15:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spring Hill (Hernando County) 1 hour north of Tampa. Call and check about shopping. I think they're required to allow shopping once a week. Bil lLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM & Yahoo ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere! -- Jeremy - 23 - FloridaC-3 Quad since 4/12/01OI Type IV since 7/29/82
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In a message dated 10/7/2005 3:15:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spring Hill (Hernando County) 1 hour north of Tampa. Call and check about shopping. I think they're required to allow shopping once a week. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM & Yahoo ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
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I'm in Spring Hill (Hernando County) 1 hour north of Tampa. On 10/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 10/7/2005 10:15:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but Medicaide only pays for school and doctor appointments. We just got a local bus but I have to drive my chair to bus route. That isn't bad but if it's raining, I'm screwed. Living in Florida, you never know when it's going to rain. It's raining now actually. =-) Where in FL are you? I live in Leesburg (Lake County). Our bus service also takes us shopping. Bil lLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM & Yahoo ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
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The paratransit system is not Medicaid. It's your county's transit system. Cost 3.00 one way plus 3.00 for your PCA - Original Message - From: Jeremy Dickinson To: Liz Cc: quadlist Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Yes but Medicaide only pays for school and doctor appointments. We just got a local bus but I have to drive my chair to bus route. That isn't bad but if it's raining, I'm screwed. Living in Florida, you never know when it's going to rain. It's raining now actually. =-) On 10/7/05, Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a paratransit system in your area? - Original Message - From: Jeremy Dickinson To: quadlist Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Transportation What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions?
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In a message dated 10/7/2005 10:15:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but Medicaide only pays for school and doctor appointments. We just got a local bus but I have to drive my chair to bus route. That isn't bad but if it's raining, I'm screwed. Living in Florida, you never know when it's going to rain. It's raining now actually. =-) Where in FL are you? I live in Leesburg (Lake County). Our bus service also takes us shopping. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM & Yahoo ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
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Yes but Medicaide only pays for school and doctor appointments. We just got a local bus but I have to drive my chair to bus route. That isn't bad but if it's raining, I'm screwed. Living in Florida, you never know when it's going to rain. It's raining now actually. =-) On 10/7/05, Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a paratransit system in your area? - Original Message - From: Jeremy Dickinson To: quadlist Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Transportation What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions?
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Is there a paratransit system in your area? - Original Message - From: Jeremy Dickinson To: quadlist Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Transportation What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions?
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My insurance carrier tells me that anyone who drives my vehicle is covered. Whether or not I'm in the van. I am the owner of the van and my mother is listed as the primary driver. Tom Houston C5-C6, 1994 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Your age, your insurance and your parents van doesn't help your situation.Insurance carriers are sticky on who drives your parents van and how theare covered, trained and their ability to drive you safely.Then there is your parents..WIn a message dated 10/6/05 6:32:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact thatI have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neckdown). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we takeout as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I takeMedicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's theonly places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like buggingme parents. Any suggestions? >>
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Your age, your insurance and your parents van doesn't help your situation. Insurance carriers are sticky on who drives your parents van and how the are covered, trained and their ability to drive you safely. Then there is your parents.. W In a message dated 10/6/05 6:32:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions? >>
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My recommendation (what I did for 7 years) is to find someone or several someone's that your parents can train to drive the way they want and pay them a nominal hourly fee to chauffeur you. I had 3 main friends that my parents trained on use of my/our van. I now offer $8/hr (pick what you can afford, I also barter for rides) to any of about a dozen people to chauffeur me when my van is in the shop and I'm stuck in a rental. Good luck! The 'rents are always a tough nut to crack ;) From: Jeremy Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:31 PMTo: quadlistSubject: [QUAD-L] Transportation What do you guys do for transportation? I have the unfortunate fact that I have OI (Brittle Bones) and that I'm a Quad (Paralyzed from the neck down). My parent's own a Ford conversion van with a lift that we take out as a family but my parents won't let my nurses drive. I take Medicare transportation to school and doctor appointments. That's the only places I can go to unless my parents drive me. I don't like bugging me parents. Any suggestions?
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation I just wonder if it's considered the same thing as what we have here. Here it's called paratransit or demand response. Yours sounds like it might be funded differently. I appreciate it though. Stacy - Original Message - From: Houston809 To: Stacy Harim ; quadlist Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation I live in Indianapolis, Indiana Ill see if I can find the guide and rulebook of open doors and indygo if not you can try contacting Dave Scott he works at IRCIL the living center and is on the busing committee. Might be able 2 help you a lot [EMAIL PROTECTED]On 2/16/05 8:47 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's the schedule that your bus system runs on. The fixed route from Salisbury in the winter months doesn't return until that time. In the summer, it runs every hour on the hour. I can get them to take me to the bus stop and then I ride the fixed route bus but then I return on the same route as 2:30 bus but will take me longer b/c will go through all the stops. I am going higher up. I didn't get picked up on Monday until after 3:30 b/c they didn't schedule me for a return trip. the fight is not over. The thing is that those are the guidelines they can legally go by without risking a law suit and that is what needs to change. What city do you live in again? I told her that other cities dont run like this one by talking to other people and she acted as if she didn't believe me. Stacy - Original Message - From: Houston809 To: Stacy Harim ; quadlist Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Reading this doesnt say that its the law, it says that they couldve applied as such. Not that everyone has 2 or its the only way 4 it 2 be done. Open door here is run by the bus company it cost $2.50 to ride in one direction I can get a day pass and ride city buses all day $1.50. Open door goes door to door why fix route got 2 get to nearest bus stop. Open door and flex route run until 12:00am where ass the regular buses stop running around 10:00 so go figure. Stacy Im not saying that you should keep fighting but dont lose hope :)On 2/14/05 7:49 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I got them to reduce the price of transportation for me. I talked to the coordinator for the paratransit however I totally screwed myself in the process. It turns out that the paratransit is supposed to run at the same times as the regular route. Well the regular route does not return to Ocean City from Salisbury where I am going to school about 35 miles away until 2:30. My classes on M,W,F are over at 9:50. I looked up all the things that they are federal law and it turns out that it is true. It is federal law. I went to the ADA webpage and from there was directed to the Federal Transportation Administration website where they have all the information, guidelines and regulations for the paratransit. http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 It is all there if you click on the link. I know I can write letters and make phone calls but it isn't going to do anything for me anytime soon. I'll be driving by then I cant believe that the federal government would have guidelines that charge double the price and would allow people to get stuck places for hours on end. I can handle it I suppose, I'm not happy about it, but can handle it. I can always do work at school. They have computer there, just my computer isn't there which is what sucks. Since I have to get up at 4:45 in the morning to catch my ride, I try to get a nap for a little bit before I study when I get home. By the time I get home I wont have time to do anything. I will have to share rides and I live the furthest away from pretty much anyone else. Cant go any further when I only live a couple of miles from the Ocean. By the time I will get home it will be probably 4 or 4:30. I will have to eat, shower, try to straighten the house up as much as I can and I am sure I will have more studying to do. Man this is going to be a rough few months. Thank God I will be driving but probably wont be before the end of the semester. I have no idea when I will be able to take care of the things I need to take care of in ord
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation I live in Indianapolis, Indiana I’ll see if I can find the guide and rulebook of open doors and indygo if not you can try contacting Dave Scott he works at IRCIL the living center and is on the busing committee. Might be able 2 help you a lot [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/16/05 8:47 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's the schedule that your bus system runs on. The fixed route from Salisbury in the winter months doesn't return until that time. In the summer, it runs every hour on the hour. I can get them to take me to the bus stop and then I ride the fixed route bus but then I return on the same route as 2:30 bus but will take me longer b/c will go through all the stops. I am going higher up. I didn't get picked up on Monday until after 3:30 b/c they didn't schedule me for a return trip. the fight is not over. The thing is that those are the guidelines they can legally go by without risking a law suit and that is what needs to change. What city do you live in again? I told her that other cities dont run like this one by talking to other people and she acted as if she didn't believe me. Stacy - Original Message - From: Houston809 To: Stacy Harim ; quadlist Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Reading this doesnt say that its the law, it says that they couldve applied as such. Not that everyone has 2 or its the only way 4 it 2 be done. Open door here is run by the bus company it cost $2.50 to ride in one direction I can get a day pass and ride city buses all day $1.50. Open door goes door to door why fix route got 2 get to nearest bus stop. Open door and flex route run until 12:00am where ass the regular buses stop running around 10:00 so go figure. Stacy Im not saying that you should keep fighting but dont lose hope :) On 2/14/05 7:49 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I got them to reduce the price of transportation for me. I talked to the coordinator for the paratransit however I totally screwed myself in the process. It turns out that the paratransit is supposed to run at the same times as the regular route. Well the regular route does not return to Ocean City from Salisbury where I am going to school about 35 miles away until 2:30. My classes on M,W,F are over at 9:50. I looked up all the things that they are federal law and it turns out that it is true. It is federal law. I went to the ADA webpage and from there was directed to the Federal Transportation Administration website where they have all the information, guidelines and regulations for the paratransit. http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 It is all there if you click on the link. I know I can write letters and make phone calls but it isn't going to do anything for me anytime soon. I'll be driving by then I cant believe that the federal government would have guidelines that charge double the price and would allow people to get stuck places for hours on end. I can handle it I suppose, I'm not happy about it, but can handle it. I can always do work at school. They have computer there, just my computer isn't there which is what sucks. Since I have to get up at 4:45 in the morning to catch my ride, I try to get a nap for a little bit before I study when I get home. By the time I get home I wont have time to do anything. I will have to share rides and I live the furthest away from pretty much anyone else. Cant go any further when I only live a couple of miles from the Ocean. By the time I will get home it will be probably 4 or 4:30. I will have to eat, shower, try to straighten the house up as much as I can and I am sure I will have more studying to do. Man this is going to be a rough few months. Thank God I will be driving but probably wont be before the end of the semester. I have no idea when I will be able to take care of the things I need to take care of in order to get the work done and get to the DMV to get my license. Spring break I have to go get a mess of testing done in order to get my stoma surgery in the summer. I'm tired, so tired of losing this battle. Every time I get something accomplished with these people, something else gets me. I can't win the battle alone with the federal transportation. Would anyone else be interested in helping me write letters complaining about the services that are provided according to their guidelines? All of them are here http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 if you want to take a look at them. It's a lot of reading but most of the information that directly is related to someone in my situation is Subpart F--Paratransit as a Complement to Fixed Route Service. Things get accomplished in a group, not just one person writing letters.
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation That's the schedule that your bus system runs on. The fixed route from Salisbury in the winter months doesn't return until that time. In the summer, it runs every hour on the hour. I can get them to take me to the bus stop and then I ride the fixed route bus but then I return on the same route as 2:30 bus but will take me longer b/c will go through all the stops. I am going higher up. I didn't get picked up on Monday until after 3:30 b/c they didn't schedule me for a return trip. the fight is not over. The thing is that those are the guidelines they can legally go by without risking a law suit and that is what needs to change. What city do you live in again? I told her that other cities dont run like this one by talking to other people and she acted as if she didn't believe me. Stacy - Original Message - From: Houston809 To: Stacy Harim ; quadlist Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Reading this doesnt say that its the law, it says that they couldve applied as such. Not that everyone has 2 or its the only way 4 it 2 be done. Open door here is run by the bus company it cost $2.50 to ride in one direction I can get a day pass and ride city buses all day $1.50. Open door goes door to door why fix route got 2 get to nearest bus stop. Open door and flex route run until 12:00am where ass the regular buses stop running around 10:00 so go figure. Stacy Im not saying that you should keep fighting but dont lose hope :)On 2/14/05 7:49 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I got them to reduce the price of transportation for me. I talked to the coordinator for the paratransit however I totally screwed myself in the process. It turns out that the paratransit is supposed to run at the same times as the regular route. Well the regular route does not return to Ocean City from Salisbury where I am going to school about 35 miles away until 2:30. My classes on M,W,F are over at 9:50. I looked up all the things that they are federal law and it turns out that it is true. It is federal law. I went to the ADA webpage and from there was directed to the Federal Transportation Administration website where they have all the information, guidelines and regulations for the paratransit. http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 It is all there if you click on the link. I know I can write letters and make phone calls but it isn't going to do anything for me anytime soon. I'll be driving by then I cant believe that the federal government would have guidelines that charge double the price and would allow people to get stuck places for hours on end. I can handle it I suppose, I'm not happy about it, but can handle it. I can always do work at school. They have computer there, just my computer isn't there which is what sucks. Since I have to get up at 4:45 in the morning to catch my ride, I try to get a nap for a little bit before I study when I get home. By the time I get home I wont have time to do anything. I will have to share rides and I live the furthest away from pretty much anyone else. Cant go any further when I only live a couple of miles from the Ocean. By the time I will get home it will be probably 4 or 4:30. I will have to eat, shower, try to straighten the house up as much as I can and I am sure I will have more studying to do. Man this is going to be a rough few months. Thank God I will be driving but probably wont be before the end of the semester. I have no idea when I will be able to take care of the things I need to take care of in order to get the work done and get to the DMV to get my license. Spring break I have to go get a mess of testing done in order to get my stoma surgery in the summer. I'm tired, so tired of losing this battle. Every time I get something accomplished with these people, something else gets me. I can't win the battle alone with the federal transportation. Would anyone else be interested in helping me write letters complaining about the services that are provided according to their guidelines? All of them are here http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 if you want to take a look at them. It's a lot of reading but most of the information that directly is related to someone in my situation is Subpart F--Paratransit as a Complement to Fixed Route Service. Things get accomplished in a group, not just one person writing letters.
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation Reading this doesn’t say that its the law, it says that they could’ve applied as such. Not that everyone has 2 or its the only way 4 it 2 be done. Open door here is run by the bus company it cost $2.50 to ride in one direction I can get a day pass and ride city buses all day $1.50. Open door goes door to door why fix route got 2 get to nearest bus stop. Open door and flex route run until 12:00am where ass the regular buses stop running around 10:00 so go figure. Stacy I’m not saying that you should keep fighting but don’t lose hope :) On 2/14/05 7:49 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I got them to reduce the price of transportation for me. I talked to the coordinator for the paratransit however I totally screwed myself in the process. It turns out that the paratransit is supposed to run at the same times as the regular route. Well the regular route does not return to Ocean City from Salisbury where I am going to school about 35 miles away until 2:30. My classes on M,W,F are over at 9:50. I looked up all the things that they are federal law and it turns out that it is true. It is federal law. I went to the ADA webpage and from there was directed to the Federal Transportation Administration website where they have all the information, guidelines and regulations for the paratransit. http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 It is all there if you click on the link. I know I can write letters and make phone calls but it isn't going to do anything for me anytime soon. I'll be driving by then I cant believe that the federal government would have guidelines that charge double the price and would allow people to get stuck places for hours on end. I can handle it I suppose, I'm not happy about it, but can handle it. I can always do work at school. They have computer there, just my computer isn't there which is what sucks. Since I have to get up at 4:45 in the morning to catch my ride, I try to get a nap for a little bit before I study when I get home. By the time I get home I wont have time to do anything. I will have to share rides and I live the furthest away from pretty much anyone else. Cant go any further when I only live a couple of miles from the Ocean. By the time I will get home it will be probably 4 or 4:30. I will have to eat, shower, try to straighten the house up as much as I can and I am sure I will have more studying to do. Man this is going to be a rough few months. Thank God I will be driving but probably wont be before the end of the semester. I have no idea when I will be able to take care of the things I need to take care of in order to get the work done and get to the DMV to get my license. Spring break I have to go get a mess of testing done in order to get my stoma surgery in the summer. I'm tired, so tired of losing this battle. Every time I get something accomplished with these people, something else gets me. I can't win the battle alone with the federal transportation. Would anyone else be interested in helping me write letters complaining about the services that are provided according to their guidelines? All of them are here http://www.fta.dot.gov/library/legal/ada/FEDREG1001.HTM#37141 if you want to take a look at them. It's a lot of reading but most of the information that directly is related to someone in my situation is Subpart F--Paratransit as a Complement to Fixed Route Service. Things get accomplished in a group, not just one person writing letters.
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I gave her my schedule for the whole week and she still screwed up every day of it. I don't think she is very bright and on top of it, rude. I talked to the coordinator and she is looking into it. I'm going to start emailing my schedule as well as calling so I have some proof. At least by doing both hopefully they will be right. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!! Stacey, I don't know if this will work but maybe you could give the transportation company your schedule for the semester. Jim
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It's paratransit. I talked to the coordinator of the but she doesn't sit on the board. Guess what? They can charge. It's a federal law that people with disabilities that use curb to curb service pay at least twice the amount of fixed route services. She was trained in D.C. before she took the position. She is checking into all the other problems I am having for me. She is going to drive down this weekend to see how far off of the fixed route I live. Not only do I have to pay more but my service ends earlier because they are trying to say I live more than 3/4 of a mile from the fixed route. I live only 1/2. It was after I complained once before that is when they decided that I lived in a rural area. They went by map quest like that is real accurate (NOT). Im waiting to hear back from my state rep and found out who to talk to to find out who is on the board for the transit. Stacy - Original Message - From: QuadPirate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!! Stacy are you using Paratransit or who picks you up? I bet I can find your info. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Stacy Harim Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:07:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!! I scheduled my ride for a half hour early and I was still 15 mins late today and I found out that students get half price. I talked to the driver that lives in my area just now and they have me screwed up for tomorrow. OH MY GOD! It's gonna take every fiber in my body to not lose my mind when I call there tomorrow. Who do I contact to find out who appoints the positions on the board? Oh, I did find out also that they are trying to get the price lowered again. I hope it passes. Makes me want to push harder to try to get on that board. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Damn transportation and complaints Board Member get free transport to meetings. Now you know.WIn a message dated 1/31/05 11:09:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< That is an idea, but as far out as they meet, it'll cost me 20 bucks to get there. LOL!! I'll check into it. Good idea W! - Original Message - >>
Re: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!!
Stacey, I don't know if this will work but maybe you could give the transportation company your schedule for the semester. Jim
Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!!
You will soon find out that anyone in your community can be selected or appointed to the transportation board in your area. Generally, its not political. Other times it can be very political. Forming your agenda is one thing, telling others is another thing. Choose your wording carefully as you will be judging the actions of many, abled and disAbled. You will have personal insight into the bowels of public and special transportation needs. Best Wishes W In a message dated 2/2/05 11:01:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I have discussed this with the drivers and they really aren't sure. I don't want to talk to the people that I have been talking to at the transit. Truthfully I'm not sure if I want them to know what I am up to. I made a phone call to the woman that assessed me for the transit (she is the one that meets with the people and makes sure they are unable to ride the fixed route), I had to leave a message and have a list of questions for when she calls me back. I'll figure it out. Thanks for the info. Stacy >>
Re: [QUAD-L] Transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!!
I have discussed this with the drivers and they really aren't sure. I don't want to talk to the people that I have been talking to at the transit. Truthfully I'm not sure if I want them to know what I am up to. I made a phone call to the woman that assessed me for the transit (she is the one that meets with the people and makes sure they are unable to ride the fixed route), I had to leave a message and have a list of questions for when she calls me back. I'll figure it out. Thanks for the info. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:40 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!! Some of your questions cannot be answered with short answers, but I will try my best. When dealing with the transportation system and its employees, you have to remember that you are working with people barely making min wages. Grab any literature you can during the rides and ask simple questions like, who's your boss or who's your boss's boss. Somewhere inside the bus is a Certificate of Authority which is issued by the Agency that controls the bus/van or transport vehicle, whether private or government supported. It could be local city or town government or county that grants the authority. Or, just ask the question from the driver that you would like someday to become a member of the transport authority board and you would like some information. I would tell that person the reason why you want that info. If you get one piece of info each day for a weekyou'll be learning alot in short time.Occasionally, the public is invited to board meetings. Find out when and where they are held.This is a good start. Best Wishes. WIn a message dated 2/1/05 8:09:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< I scheduled my ride for a half hour early and I was still 15 mins late today and I found out that students get half price. I talked to the driver that lives in my area just now and they have me screwed up for tomorrow. OH MY GOD! It's gonna take every fiber in my body to not lose my mind when I call there tomorrow. Who do I contact to find out who appoints the positions on the board? Oh, I did find out also that they are trying to get the price lowered again. I hope it passes. Makes me want to push harder to try to get on that board.Stacy - Original Message - >>
Re: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!!
Stacy are you using Paratransit or who picks you up? I bet I can find your info. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Stacy Harim Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:07:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] transportation is even worse OMG UGH!!! I scheduled my ride for a half hour early and I was still 15 mins late today and I found out that students get half price. I talked to the driver that lives in my area just now and they have me screwed up for tomorrow. OH MY GOD! It's gonna take every fiber in my body to not lose my mind when I call there tomorrow. Who do I contact to find out who appoints the positions on the board? Oh, I did find out also that they are trying to get the price lowered again. I hope it passes. Makes me want to push harder to try to get on that board. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Damn transportation and complaints Board Member get free transport to meetings. Now you know.WIn a message dated 1/31/05 11:09:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:<< That is an idea, but as far out as they meet, it'll cost me 20 bucks to get there. LOL!! I'll check into it. Good idea W! - Original Message - >>
