Re: HTML graphics in email
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 at 21:09:35 -0800, E McCann observed: At 06:18 PM 11/17/2002, Robert Gray typed thusly: I set Eudora not to download HTML. Any message with HTML graphics is usually crap anyway. Not to mention annoying... one list my wife's on has ONE member that insists on sending stuff with fancy backgrounds (can't read what's in the email over it,) banners, animated graphics, and occasionally MIDI (ugh!) - found a good 10 meg of it after a few weeks. You think that's bad? Where my wife works, one of the senior VPs sends out corporate-wide email like that. The techies don't see it because they mostly use text-only mail clients in *nix, but the non-techies running Office2000/XP get illegible messages and the mail servers are all overloaded with the crap. When I was there I spent countless hours trying to teach the virtues of plain-text internal messages and PDF files on the corporate intranet, but to no avail. Touchy-feely admin types just don't get it that email is for communication, not artistic expression. Mind you, most of them could also use a course in effective writing, but that's a subject for an altogether different thread (and forum, for that matter). Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. - I. Asimov -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Top vs. Bottom Posting
the Eudora Thing extension, which colours depth of quoting... this is shown in yellow Oh joy, yellow text on a white background! ;-) Of course, by the time it gets to Yellow, everybody following the thread has already read it four times, so it's probably only of archive interest anyway. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. - I. Asimov -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Top vs. Bottom Posting
To All Of Us: Am I the only one that is finding all these comments about top -VS- bottom filling up their email inbox a little silly. Possibly, given that the exchange is continuing. ;-) Have we gotten to the point of the Point and Click mentality and unable to resolve text manualy as needed in our replies to messages. Cut and Paste might take longer but it will get past all the shortfalls of the different email programs available. I think that everyone has hir (-PC meld of 'his' 'her'; retains subject/object number consistency) own comfort level between functionality and ease-of-use. At some point, the technology makes it too onerous to do the detailed editing and expediency takes over. I miss the simple, plain-text, keyboard-centric interface of *nix Pine. Anyone know of a Mac equivalent? I have found that either the responses that intermingle with comments after the original text or the complete prior message and then a response to the message works the best. Overall, I prefer responses intermingled with text. To me it's just as difficult to make back-references from post-responses to message body as it is to make forward-references from pre-responses. I also like to see the copious use of vertical whitespace - after munging a message through two or three email clients, it's sometimes difficult to determine where the citation leaves off and the response begins. Why don't we take a vote and have a standard way agreed upon. Comments? The techno-libertarian in me cries out in anguish! Lets not try to legislate an unenforcable standard. Allow peer pressure to do the job. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Monitor problem and PPC 6500/250
I wish I know the answer to that, John. All I know, first from reading it on the list and later from substantial direct experience, is that one of the syptoms of a dead PRAM battery is the inability to recognize the video or to progress past the initial 'boing'. I've been spending the past several weeks spending a couple of hours a day, replacing PRAM batteries in the old LC-class computers at my son's school. There was quite a discussion earlier this year on one of the LEM lists about this topic, including speculation about the effects of leaving an instant-on system unplugged. I would speculate that the system keeps some sort of its video board configuration in PRAM and if that's lost, it can't decide how to display the Welcome to Macintosh message or even the Happy Mac, so it just hangs. Perhaps if the power is cycled rapidly, some capicitor retains a charge long enough for the POST to identify the video board configuration and permits startup to proceed. Sp00ky Question, how would a dead PRAM battery affect the video? I do understand that the date/time would get lost with a dead battery, the system goes back to default, but the video? I am not trying to be a smart ass with this question, I am looking for new infomation to put in the old memory bank! Thanks !! - John -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Monitor problem and PPC 6500/250
Quadra 605, Performa 475, LC 475 - all are 68LC040-based; same (almost) main board, different skins. I've worked on all of them this past month. This is being composed on a chipped (68040/33) Q605; my test bench machine is a 68040/25 P475. Sp00ky Scott Holder observed: A lot of older Macs, including some Quadras to make this on topic (605 is one of them), just don't start up with a dead/missing PRAM battery. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Top vs. Bottom Posting
I find that both methods have their uses. Top posting can let you respond to the whole thought more readily, without leaving newcomers to the discussion completely out of the loop. Interlineated posting (bottom posting) lets you respond point-for-point, something that is particularly useful in multi-topic messages such as meeting minutes. Either kind of response requires judicious editing on the part of the respondant. Such editing can be finicky and time-consuming, characteristics that are not congenial to the shoot-from-the-hip nature of email lists. The far extreme seems to be lack of quoting of any sort; this leaves even the direct participants in the thread sometimes at a loss as to what a given posting refers to. There seems to be a mix of early experience, available technology, and contemporary culture influencing the methods of response here. I would suggest that the guidelines, coupled with both more tolerance on the part of readers and more attention to detail on the part of respondants, will be the way to address the issue. Thanks for providing the guidelines, Listmom. Hope your end-of-month holiday leaves you refressed. Sp00ky On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 at 18:43:52 -0500, Dan Knight observed: One of my pet peeves -- and something a lot of you have probably received a note about -- is people who quote the entire original message right down through the footer. The header. The ads. Everything. [...snip...] After reading it all, I did some statistical analysis, put down my foot, and created a new rule for the lists. Well, guideline, if you want to be precise. [...snip...] -- Our Guidelines Bottom posting is not only the oldest established method of replying on the Internet, it is also the most logical. It demonstrates that the sender is in a dialogue. It makes it easy for new subscribers to follow the conversation. It's just logical. Because of this, we recommend bottom posting as the normal way of replying on our lists. This should also eliminate most of the problems with excessive quoting. However, we are not passing a hard and fast rule against top posting. [...snip...] Of course, that's not the kind of discussion we see within a list. On a list, top posting should be the exception, not the rule. Something like this is a bunch of bunk or the nanny declares this thread DEAD are appropriate as top posts; most replies are not. Remember that this is a guideline. We won't kick you off the list for not following it, but we believe bottom posting is the better way. Dan the listmom Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re(2): Top vs. Bottom Posting
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 at 18:43:52 -0500, Dan Knight remarked: [...snip...] -- Our Research Remember the issue of quoting the entire original message? Well it turns out that almost everyone who does that is a top poster. They use the default setting on their email client, they don't take the time to quote selectively, and they fill digests with massive quantities of unnecessarily quoted content. [...snip...] I am frequently, but not exclusively, a top quoter, not for any of the reasons (or effects) cited, but because I generally prefer to respond to a cohesive message with a cohesive reply. The interlineated mode of response not only chops up the original writer's thought, but also disrupts the development of my own presentation. Thus, I prefer to use top quoting in response to single-topic messages and to use interlineated quoting or separate messages to respond to multi-topic messages (such as meeting minutes). Having said that, I will also note that the technology involved significantly affects the mode of response. The mail client I am currently using, Eudora Pro 3.0, is rather deficient in its options for response composition. I must hand craft the citation line. I have no choice in line width or delimiter in quoted text. When I enter the reply mode the entire message is selected; a careless keystroke will delete the entire response. I'm using it because it came 'free' in a bunch of other stuff I collected in a yard sale and because it works fairly briskly on my Quadra 605 (68040/33; 36MB RAM; DSL). I'd be interested in opinions about other mail clients suitable for this platform. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Monitor problem and PPC 6500/250
It's got nothing to do with the noisy fan, but I'd be willing to bet that you've got a dead PRAM battery. What you need to do to confirm this, before cracking the case, is to simply try turning the system on for a few momemnts, then off and on quickly at the power source. If the Pram battery is dead, the system should start up more or less normally. If it does, check the system date and time. If the date is 1956 and the time is ~8:30PM, you've definitely got a dead PRAM battery. If the battery is the standard, 1/2-AA, 3.6-volt, lithium batteries, it has a shelf life of about ten years and a service life of 3 to 4 years. I'm not sure what the lifetime(s) are for the cubical, 4.5-volt batteries. Look for a battery manufacture date stamped on the battery somewhere to finally confirm its death from old age. As for the fan, what sort of noisy? Whining, rattling, ascending and descending scales? First thing I would do is check for dust and obstructions. Good luck, Sp00ky Hello, I don't know if this is the correct forum (list) for this, so don't hesitate to steer me to the right one. I was first called in to solve a noisy fan problem on a PPC 6500/250. The teacher said the fan was bad. 1. I got startup chord after punching Power button. Monitor stayed dark. I got an amber preStart glow but no green ON. Not Contrast or Brightness problem. 2. At this point teacher said, Oh yeah, sometimes it won't come on at all. Othertimes it does work. But the fan is always noisy. I tried for Shut Down Beep by punching Power. No Beep and no shutdown. Can shut down only by turning power source off. 3. I checked out fan noise by disconnecting fan; noise disappeared. I hooked up a known good monitor to check other problem. Still amber but no green. 4. Tried to start up the computer with Norton Utilities. Still nothing. At this point my repair CD suggests replacing the Video-Out Card. Why would it be the Video Out Card instead of the Audio-Monitor Connection Subassembly? Next after that suggestion is this suggestion: Pull all DRAM DIMMs; replacing them one-by-one and trying Startup on each replacement.. Couldn't I do that before replacing either of the other two parts? Can someone suggest something here? Is one of the three latter steps more logical than the other two? Jim Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Freeware MPG Player for P475/Q605
SIGH! Thanks, Scott. Thanks, pickle. Fram rate is ~30, but I will try to track down Sparkle. Originating app doesn't have much flexibility. May have to take mid-tower peecee with monitor into school. :-( Thanks for your input, anyways. Sp00ky On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 at 09:50:40 -0500, the pickle suggested: At 03:01 -0500 on 10/11/02, Scott Holder wrote: At 01:49 AM 11/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: Quadlisters, I'm looking for a freeware MPG player for Performa 475 running 7.1 or a Quadra 605 running 8.1. [...snip...] Any suggestions about how to get these files displayed? You probably won't. Those machines aren't particularly well-suited for video playing, especially anything terribly new. You might could get 5 frames a second at something small. Try Sparkle, if you can still find a copy. -- the pickle Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Freeware MPG Player for P475/Q605
Quadlisters, I'm looking for a freeware MPG player for Performa 475 running 7.1 or a Quadra 605 running 8.1. I need this for installation Monday on some systems at my son's school. I need it to play some MPG files generated on a Win98 PC. The files play back on the PC and on the Red Hat 7.2 GNU/Linux box that's acting as the store-and-forward file server, but the QuickTime (2.5) Movie Player (2.5.1) on the target Mac(s) fails with a message saying that the file is not a movie file. Any suggestions about how to get these files displayed? Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Can a Performa 475 drive an AppleColor Monitor?
As I was forcefully informed, it's not a DB-15. ;-) The IIgs provides both composite video through an RCA socket and some sort of RGB monitor support through the DB-15 (sic) socket. As my original post said, I was trying to find out if the AppleColor RGB Monitor from a IIgs could be driven from an LC475/P475/Q605 mobo. Sp00ky At 07:24 +0100 on 24/10/02, Jim Pendarvis wrote: Interesting, because the two computers have completely different (and incompatible without extra hardware) video subsystems... Apparently not. ;-) Both the IIgs and the Macs use DB-15 Video connectors. I know the Apple IIe, IIc and earlier used a composite video connector. The IIgs might have one of those as well, but I don't have one handy to check just now. The IIgs does have composite video. ...and the mystery DB-15 video-out port does what, looks pretty? :) -- the pickle Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
A Rose By Any Other Name ...
Scott and Pickle, Some months ago (May or June, I think) we had a back-and-forth on one of the LEM lists about D-connector nomenclature. As I remember the course of the discussion, someone pointed out that the Dx-nn nomenclature specifies the hardware characteristics. 'D' indicates the shell shape. The 'x' is an alpha character that specifies the width of the connector: 'DB' is the size we usually associate with 25 pins; 'DE' is the usual 9-pin size; I don't remember them all. The 'nn' is the pin count, not the size (there was some speculation about how to name a Sun video connector). Commonplace usage is to prepend 'DB' to the pin count, but this is not technically correct. Having said that, I still eschew the pedantry and call them all DB-whatever. ;-) Sp00ky As I was forcefully informed, it's not a DB-15. ;-) The IIgs provides both composite video through an RCA socket and some sort of RGB monitor support through the DB-15 (sic) socket. As my original post said, I was trying to find out if the AppleColor RGB Monitor from a IIgs could be driven from an LC475/P475/Q605 mobo. Sp00ky Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we CAN imagine. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Can a Performa 475 drive an AppleColor Monitor?
Thanks, pickle. I was afraid that was the case. I picked up an Apple IIgs with monitor, keyboard, mouse, 3,5 and 5.25 external drives, and 3 ft**3 of game software on floppies at a yard sale. Also salvaged a Performa 475 eleswhere. I sort of like the look of the IIgs, so I thought I'd try a hack to put the 475 mobo in the IIgs case - plenty of room, IIgs power supply is beefier than P475, and P475 case can provide back-panel insert. Of course the AppleColor monitor is need to maintain the look. Oh well ... Anyone out there interested in a LOT of really low-density 3.5 5.25 floppies? :-( Sp00ky On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 at 18:50:58 -0400, the pickled replied: At 22:54 -0500 on 18/10/02, Spiritus ex Machina wrote: 475 main board and an AppleColor RGB Monitor (Model A2M6014) that I would The A2 in the model number gives that away as an Apple II monitor, which can't work with a Mac. -- the pickle Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
On 10/5/02, R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 10/5/02 3:52 AM, E McCann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't recall what was involved with the external video kit - Video- wise on the system, I've got cable (coax) in, S-video, and the three RCA jacks. It fills the upper wide slot on the backplate and lets you hook up a second monitor (mirror only) I have one if you want to swap for it. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell My 630CD has three RCA jacks and a DIN-8 (S-video?) port above the serial and ADB ports, but no coax. Without the video kit, how are these ports used? Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
On the other hand it's an SOB getting into the rest of the case - like if you want to clean the dust bunnies from the floppy drive or put in a bigger hard drive. :-( Definitely check the PRAM battery before you do anything else. If the battery is a Tadiran (purple-pink with black markings) it will have a date stamped on it. If the date is over about six years ago or if the battery voltage is below about 2.8 volts, the battery should be replaced. Suitable replacements can be found at RadioShack or Batteries Plus. Sp00ky The motherboard of the 630 is one of the easiest to get to. Take off the back panel, and you'll see two screws on the sides and a little handle. Undo the two screws, unclip the handle, and give it a pull. The motherboard will slide out. Scott Holder -Original Message- David: Thanks for your response. I tried to open the computer case - unsuccessfully. Any suggestions? If I get it opened, where would I find the pram battery? (Rookies do ask dumb questions, don't they?) Thanx. == Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
Replacement batteries are immediately available from RadioShack or Batteries Plus. Many are sold on eBay, but watch out for bargain out-of-date or end-of-shelf-life offerings. Replacement CPUs are available from my favorite eBay merchant, olde-mac-milt. Write to him directly from one of his auction pages. [Disclaimer: I have no relationship with olde-mac-milt other than that of being a very satisfied customer.] Sp00ky Scott: I followed your directions and it came right out! Thanks! So now where can I get a replacement? Thanx, RM- == - Original Message - From: Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Performa or Something Else? The motherboard of the 630 is one of the easiest to get to. Take off the back panel, and you'll see two screws on the sides and a little handle. Undo the two screws, unclip the handle, and give it a pull. The motherboard will slide out. Scott Holder Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
A couple of observations, R.A.: [...snip...] Don't worry about a battery till you get the machine to boot. Do you get a boot chime when you hit the button? I'm not sure about the 630CD, but some Macs won't start up properly or recognize and light up the display if the PRAM battery is shot. Can anyone provide more details? [...snip...] I don't know what you paid for the 630 or what you paid the tech to tell you the Mobo was dead, but don't pay a lot for anything to do with a 630. The p-ream battery for one is going to be about $12 and that is about as much as a 630 is worth. So, you have to be a little judicious to avoid getting caught up in a good-money-after-bad situation. I agree with your comment about getting caught up in a good-money-after-bad situation, but disagree with your evaluation of the worth of the 630CD. In a purely dollars-and-cents market situation, you could be right, but for a new computer user, the worth is in the ability to do basic word processing, to send and receive email, and to browse the web. For this purpose, the 630CD (loaded with OS 7.x, AppleWorks 5, Eudora, and Netscape) is perfect and well worth several $25 upgrades (CPU, memory, comm slot modem or ethernet board) to make it maximally performant within its design specs. It's definitely less expensive than Dude, you're getting a Dull! ;-) Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
You can contact Olde Mac Milt through eBay or you can send email to him directly at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recommend that you look for some of his auctions on eBay and read the voluminous material he provides there before writing him directly; it will save you both a lot of time. By the way, when he sent me some of the upgrade parts for my 630CD he included detailed instructions for completely disassembling the 630CD case. Really a super eBay dealer. Sp00ky Sp00ky: Thanks for the advice. How can I contact olde-mac-milt? Thru EBay? RM- == - Original Message - From: Spiritus ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Performa or Something Else? Whether or not you choose to swap out the CPU, you should definitely max out the RAM. Adding RAM is the fastest, cheapest, and easiest way to boost the performance of system. Check with olde-mac-milt and he will see to it that you get the correct RAM stick for the 630CD (I know this because he provided the CPU and RAM upgrades for MY 630CD). Sp00ky Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
CPU - Central Processing Unit - Used for all general-purpose processing in a system FPU - Floating Point Unit - Used for special handling of floating-point arithmetic instructions Some CPUs have an FPU built in (e.g., 68040), some do not (e.g., 68LC040). In the latter case, the floating-point computations must be emulated in software (much slower) or a separate FPU must be provided in some fashion. Some Mac mainboards have an FPU socket, some Mac add-on boards have an FPU socket. Easiest is to use a CPU with a built-in FPU whenever possible. Sp00ky Scott: Yes, the chips has 68LC040 in the middle of the other numbers. But I'm not familiar with FPU (sorry). If I wanted to upgrade, how would I do that? (That's probably in the FAQs, right?) Thanx, RM- Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa or Something Else?
The $12 I put into a battery got me started and I didn't stop till every port on the back of the 6300 had something sticking out of it. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell :-) Lessee - microphone, speakers, comm slot (Ethernet), display, ADB, printer (LocalTalk/AppleTalk), modem (local printer), ... I've still got the SCSI port, the PDA slot, and 3 RCA sockets. Better get to work. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 630 internet...
The easiest way to get the hardware you need (a PDS ethernet card) is to contact olde-mac-milt on eBay. He'll be able to set you up with exactly the right card for your system. FWIW: I have no connection with Olde-Mac-Milt except that of being a very satisfied customer. Sp00ky Hi, I am new to the list, and I've come here hoping to get some help getting my friend online with my old Quadra 630. [...snip...] Also is there any way to hook up ethernet to this mac (like serial to ethernet or something or apple talk to ethernet...) her housemates are planning on all sharing a broadband connection and I have no idea how I'll get her hooked into a PC network. Thanks, Susan Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 630 internet...
I am new to the list, and I've come here hoping to get some help getting my friend online with my old Quadra 630. [...snip...] Also is there any way to hook up ethernet to this mac (like serial to ethernet or something or apple talk to ethernet...) her housemates are planning on all sharing a broadband connection and I have no idea how I'll get her hooked into a PC network. The easiest way to get the hardware you need (a PDS ethernet card) is to contact olde-mac-milt on eBay. He'll be able to set you up with exactly the right card for your system. The Quadra 630 can also use a Comm Slot Ethernet card, or Comm Slot modem and this would leave your PDS slot free for something else. DOH! Of course, that's what I meant to say. That's how I've got my Performa 630CD set up. Thanks for pointing out the more flexible way to set things up, John. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 475 or monitor dead
Same thing happened to my LC 475 this past week, only it wasn't over the summer, just overnight. Replaced the PRAM battery and everything came back just fine. RadioShack has the correct PRAM battery for ~$12; Radio Shack part number is 23-026; Tadiran model number is TL-2150/S. This is a 3.6v 1/2 AA battery - 3.0v won't do. Good luck. Sp00ky Fred Wonderdog wrote: The LC475 in our classroom worked fine on the last day of school. I t was disconnected from the power outlet and sat idle over the summer, and today when we tried to start it up the Mac chime was heard, but the monitor (an apple color monitor - 13-14 inch?) stayed black. If we turn the monitor itself off, there is a small flash of light, but when on it is just dark. We tried some obvious things - checking brightness control and the connection to the computer. I also tried hooking up a Viewsonic VGA with a Mac adaptor, also stayed dark, although I am not sure of the correct settings on the adaptor for this combination. Any ideas what has ocurred? We don't have another Apple monitor to check with. Our other Macs are iMacs or Performas with built in monitors. Michael -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Browser for an LC 475
Quadlisters, Slowly I'm getting my LC 475 on the Net. The system has a full 68040 CPU, 36M RAM, 1M VRAM, an Apple Multiple Scan 15 Display, and a DaynaPort Ethernet adapter. It's running OS 8.1. It's connected to the Internet via DSL on a LAN shared by several systems (Wintel Linux; this is the first Mac on the LAN). I've established email with a scavenged copy of Eudora Pro 3.0. Now I want to add a browser. Given the configuration described, what is an appropriate browser? I've installed iCab Pre2.81. It seems to work OK, if a bit slowly, but some screens don't display correctly if I run in full HTML enforcement mode. If I'm going to have to disable full enforcement to get pages to display properly, should I go ahead and install Netscape? If so, what version is suitable for my configuration? TIA. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Browser for an LC 475
Quadlisters, Thanks to Erik, Tina, and Dean (off-line) for their useful advice. Particular thanks to Tina for that Really Useful Link. I've installed the version of Netscape that Tina provided the link for and it's exactly what I was looking for. The LC 475 has become a really nice little web surfer and mail client. Sp00ky On 09/03/2002, Spiritus ex Machina wrote: Quadlisters, Slowly I'm getting my LC 475 on the Net. The system has a full 68040 CPU, 36M RAM, 1M VRAM, an Apple Multiple Scan 15 Display, and a DaynaPort Ethernet adapter. It's running OS 8.1. It's connected to the Internet via DSL on a LAN shared by several systems (Wintel Linux; this is the first Mac on the LAN). I've established email with a scavenged copy of Eudora Pro 3.0. Now I want to add a browser. Given the configuration described, what is an appropriate browser? I've installed iCab Pre2.81. It seems to work OK, if a bit slowly, but some screens don't display correctly if I run in full HTML enforcement mode. If I'm going to have to disable full enforcement to get pages to display properly, should I go ahead and install Netscape? If so, what version is suitable for my configuration? Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Office Suite for LC 475
Folks, Thanks for your insight and opinions, both on list and off. I've decided to go with AppleWorks 5.0, from an eBay seller with what sounds like a legitimate secondary market copy. Thoughtful input and discussion is what really makes this list worthwhile. Sp00ky Spiritus ex Machina wrote: Folks, I'm looking for a basic office suite to install on my LC 475 (full 68040 processor, 36M memory, 1M VRAM, 88MB available HD space, AppleCD 600e, MacOS 8.1). I decided to check out eBay for (potential) bargains. ClarisWorks 4.0 and AppleWorks 5.0 seem to be generally available for between $12 and $25 and both would appear to be able to function on my machine. Price and platform are obviously not going to be major discriminators. [...snip...] TIA for your comments. Sp00ky -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630 Excel problems
Try removing the graphic, converting it to a more Mac-friendly format, and pasting it back in later, after you've worked out the other kinks in the spreadsheet. I would definitely consider the graphic(s) to be the very first 'feature' to eliminate. Sp00ky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...snip...] Yeah, I did try to .csv and .txt formats. And they do in fact work for bringing in the basic spreadsheet. Unforunately, you lose all formatting information. The spreadsheet in question is basically a form so it needs to be in its original formatting. That being said, it is a simple form. I'll have to try removing the graphic. I didn't think of it until you mentioned it, but it might be a sore spot. Still the graphic does get displayed in that milisecond when the whole spreadsheet is on the screen before the type-1 error raises its ugly head. So I suppose that the next move would be to remove features one by one until the spreadsheet imports correctly. It would be interesting to see which of the features are causing the crash. -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: AOL Usage (was: new thread, not sure what)
AOL usage cost has nothing to do with which version of the client you use. The Free Hours bait-and-switch dates back to the days when there was a per-minute charge for using the service. The latest come-on I received offered 1025 hours within forty-five days of initial sign-on; that's just 55 hours less than the total number of hours (24*45=1080) available in that period. I don't think I could stay awake that long! If you've already got an AOL account, you're online with them already and there's no particular advantage to using 7.0. Since you're able to communicate with the list, you abviously have a transport provider and and ISP (netzero). Stick with a clean and lean mail client and web browser, not the bloated AOL interface. Happy surfing. Sp00ky catalina_eddie wrote: [...snip...] Still, I think it's about time to fire up the modem, jury rig a phone connection, and get the mac online. Any favorite cheap ISPs for Mac out there?. My AOL 7.0, free fer a jillion hours till you forget to cancel, disk just froze up the machine. I see I can download AOL 2.7, but I don't think I can get any free hours with that. Don Erdmann, Vancouver, USA -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630 Excel problems
The post hadn't wandered off. I was just unwilling to reply because of my unfamiliarity with the Mac family of MS Office products. Windows, on the other hand, ... Two questions: 1) Have you tried using one of the non-speadsheet import/export formats such as comma-separated valuse (*.csv) or tab-seperated values (*.txt)? This would let the Mac version of Excel create the spreadsheet in native format, rather than trying to translate an existing format. 2) Have you tried importing a version without the graphic? This would eliminate the need for Mac Excel to convert non-spreadsheet data. Just my two cents worth. Sp00ky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off, I assume that this version of excel does not have trouble with other spreadsheets. What version of Excel was the spreadsheet originally saved in? If it was a more recent version that the one you are running, it may simply be that your Excel is choking newer stuff that it does not understand. As far as your version is concerned, it is trying to understand a spreadsheet from the future. Try re-exporting from the PC version to Excel 4.0 format, or to some interchange format, like SYLK. That should lose any 'future' formatting. First off, I'd really like to thank you for replying. I was beginning to wonder if the post had gone to the great beyond. As to your questions. Excel 5.0 works okay with spreadsheets that I create on it. It also works okay with old Mac Excel 4.0 spreadsheets that I created before. The problem seems to occur when importing from a PC. The creating spreadsheet on the PC is Excel 2000. I have used the Save-As command to save the spreadsheet in every format that the spreadsheet supports (including Excel 4.0 and 5.0/95) and nothing seems to help. I know that type-1 is a type of memory error, so that was the reason I was playing with memory allocations on the Mac. The spreadsheet isn't huge. It contains only one worksheet. That worksheet is configured for landscape printing. It includes the company logo as a graphic at the top. Otherwise, its actually a very simple spreadsheet. I'm at a loss as to how to get this old 630 to read this spreadsheet. I want to be able to keep the 630 because its the only Mac in the office. But, I have to be able to import work. Any help would be appreciated. David -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Which E-Machines card am I looking at?
Most cards will have some sort of external interface connector of some sort. What does this one look like? D-shell or RJ or other? Male or femail? Pin count? This will all help us identify the card. You might also poke around at: http://parts.emachines.com/emachines/ or: http://www.e4me.com/support/faqindex.html or: http://www.e4me.com/support/updates.html or even just: http://www.e4me.com/index.html Good luck, Sp00ky philphil wrote: Hello: I found this card in a Quadra 650, but I have no idea which E-machine card it is. The following is printed on the circuit board: PCB P/N 029-01329-01 This sticker is on the circuit board: P/N 030-01489--3 S/n 7636 (Hand-written) There is some EPROM in a socket with the following sticker: E-Machines 017-01570-01 It is a long card (12 inches) Can anyone offer input as to how to determine what card this is, and where to get the documentations? Thanks for looking. Phil Wong -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Vintage Macs, Vintage Printers - only a little OT
Good topic, Bruce. I'm new to vitage Macs and vintage Apple printers, so I'm looking for advice along those lines, too. Vintage Mac printers use a serial interface and most PC printers use a parallel interface (although USB is becoming common). If the 'PC' printer had a serial interface, I would suppose an appropriate serial interface cable and printer driver could be produced, although there's no certainty that they have been for any particular model printer. I remember when we used to have to build custom serial cables for PC-to-printer connections, based on the brand of PC and the brand of printer. Standards can be a nice thing. I would suspect that even the level of OS release on your Mac would make a difference as to which printer you can use. I picked up a Stylewriter II that I have yet to get to work on any of my vintage Macs, ranging from Mac Plus to LC-475, with OS from 7.x to 8.x. The printer self-tests fine, but doesn't respond to the printer - various error messages appear, depending upon which system I use. Some day I'll find the right combination of system, OS, and cable that will let me use it. Fellow at my local Computer Renaissance says that the Canon bubble-jet printers have the same engine as the StyleWriters; only the interface circuitry is different. In fact, Canon actually was the manufacturer of the StyleWriters. Sp00ky [...snip...] Now just in the past few weeks I have seen a slew of cheap old Mac printers in thrift shops pawn shops, and wonder if it's time to move on. But I'm so printer inexperienced! Can someone take a few moments to expound on the relative merits of such printers as Personal LaserWriters (could have had one for $5 yesterday), Color Stylewriters, old Canons and Epsons, etc. etc. Also, this may sound ignorant but I'm confused about whether a PC printer such as DeskJet or Canon can be hooked up to a Mac provided you have the correct cable and drivers, or are printers strictly Mac or PC? Bruce (in Orlando) -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Vintage Macs, Vintage Printers - only a little OT
I dunno about the economics there. My local Computer Renaissance wants $25 for a brand new, Canon-branded, BC-02 ink cartridge for my StyleWriter II ($25 through eBay) and my Canon BJ-200ex ($7.50 at a local thrift shop). When I went to replace the toner cartridge on my Lexmark Winriter 200, I was quoted $150 (the Winriter is gathering dust under one of my work tables). The idea that we can buy a whole new printer more cheaply than the ink or toner to refill an old one really gripes me. The last thing we (as an over-consuming society) need to do is populate landfills with once-used computer components. :-( As Ken Daggett, over on the Compact Macs list says: Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without. Sp00ky Jim Arnott wrote: PLW.. Your greatest expense will be paper. Inkjets... everytime you buy ink, you pay the equivilent of a new printer. (Anecdote: A local PC shop tells their customers when they come looking for ink to go to WalMart and get a new printer. Saves the customer about $10.) Go back and get that laser. Jim -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Vintage Macs, Vintage Printers - only a little OT
I would love to be able to service all my own gear. Apple provides detailed tear-down and reassembly documentation for its products; does anyone know if Canon does, too? Sp00ky byard pidgeon wrote: Right, the fuser and pickup parts are cheap, but unless the person is able to install the parts, the cost will go WAY up...and unless a person does this kind of take apart and put back together on a regular basis, it's pretty daunting the first time. on 07/18/2002 05:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the laser printer is based upon a Canon marking engine, a fuser roller will cost about $10 (less for a clone) and a pickup roller will cost about $6 (less for a clone). There's a reason why completely remanufactured fusers for CX and SX marking engines can be had for $49 ... 99.44 percent of the parts are usable as-is, or can very easily be remanufactured, and the remaining 0.66 percent don't cost very much. -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Rescued LC 475 CPU Chip ID
I recently rescured an LC475 box on its way to the recycler. Its provenance is unknown. It has 4M+16M memory, 512K VRAM, and the standard manual-inject HD floppy and 160M hard drive. What I'm not sure about is the CPU. Stock LC475s are supposed to have a 25MHz 68LC040 CPU (no FPU). The chip in this box is labeled XC68040RC25M. MacCheck says that it has a 68040 processor at 25MHz with a built-in 040 co-processor. So, my question is whether this a 68LC040 in a clever disguise or a real 68040. Any advice? -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Rescued LC 475 CPU Chip ID
Thanks for the information about 040s and the speedometer link. I'll be checking it out as soon as I can get the system on the net. Sp00ky Dana Sibera wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, at 07:46 AM, Dana Sibera wrote: The one sure test is to download a benchmark prog such as speedometer - Just for completeness, a version of speedometer can be got from: http://mes.emuunlim.com/software/applications/disk_tools.htm be well :) dana -- unnaturally hosted on a Q605, http://www.danamania.com/ -- Spiritus ex Machina No matter how paranoid you are, it isn't paranoid enough. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
