Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
edwin2006 wrote: > Leave AP's on? Sure, I could do so but I try to reduce energy consumption of the APs by shutting down WiFi if nobody needs it in the night. And it worked like this for years. Only with the recent different schedulings this caused problems. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > IIRC If the different APs have the same ssid - you'll have problems. > Radio and Touch do not support roaming. No, I use identical SSIDs for many years and I can take a Radio and wander around in the house and the Radio connects to the AP with the best signal. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
IIRC If the different APs have the same ssid - you'll have problems. Radio and Touch do not support roaming. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > Do you have any additional/3rd party applets or mods installed which > may be trying to get some resource from net such as weather, images, > metadata etc. I don't think I do. After happening yesterday a few times it has not happened today. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Do you have any additional/3rd party applets or mods installed which may be trying to get some resource from net such as weather, images, metadata etc. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > Was this with your Pi system ? If so then it rules out Win10 and maybe > LMS as a factor. Yes. I have never seen it happen before today. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
slartibartfast wrote: > I am seeing this now with Radio 2. If I leave it playing after a while > it becomes silent. According to Orange Squeeze the status is playing and > the volume is 23%. If I adjust the navigation knob (volume knob works > as well but strange that the navigation knob has an effect)on the Radio > then the volume returns. No alarm involved. Was this with your Pi system ? If so then it rules out Win10 and maybe LMS as a factor. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > That's my point - there are no other signs of volume being changed yet > volume goes to zero. The only other explanation would be a pause but > the stream has moved on (i.e. your ears tell you audio has been lost) so > the only explanation left is hardware or something in the software > installed on the Radio. No other user is reporting this issue and many > use alarms - so it seems to be specific to your setup. I am seeing this now with Radio 2. If I leave it playing after a while it becomes silent. According to Orange Squeeze the status is playing and the volume is 23%. If I adjust the navigation knob (volume knob works as well but strange that the navigation knob has an effect)on the Radio then the volume returns. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > Yes, these are the changes I made using the Radio's volume control. That's my point - there are no other signs of volume being changed yet volume goes to zero. The only other explanation would be a pause but the stream has moved on (i.e. your ears tell you audio has been lost) so the only explanation left is hardware or something in the software installed on the Radio. No other user is reporting this issue and many use alarms - so it seems to be specific to your setup. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Yes, these are the changes I made using the Radio's volume control. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
I understood the volume changes logged are your movement of the volume control which is reported to LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > I can't see anything in logs indicating a voulme change but not all > sources of change for Radio have been logged (e.g. IR control) The volume changes are logged, search for "new volume from player" in the Radio's messages file. I don't have any IR control in use for the SBs, in fact they're packed away. > When sound resume after knob clock - is it at same position (i.e paused) > or has stream moved on (i.e. volumen set to zero) in the meantime. The stream moved on. I can also see the progress in LMS web UI. > > Without more details (i.e. is stream paused - what does NP screen show ? > does audio continue without a gap) - I think the problem is hardware > (e.g. could IR sensor be failing, could audio output have problems). > Not sure what you can do except possibly reload firmware and factory > reset. In this situation the NP screen shows what has been played before switching the Radio to standby and doesn't show any progress indicator. This morning I made another observation: after switching music from Radio1 to Radio2 using SwitchPlayer plugin I went to the kitchen where Radio2 is placed but it didn't play and the digital clock was shown. Now I changed volume without switching it on(!) and it played the correct track. The screen still showed the clock. It played only for 10 seconds or so before it muted again. Another small twist of the volume knob let it play for another short period and so on. Since usually both Radios are affected and since there's the workaround to switch to MYSB and back after which they are working fine at least for the whole day, I doubt it's the hardware. But it's not impossible of course. I can replace one of them by another Radio that I usually run on battery so it's really off if not used and therefore not involved in this mystery. And I have two spare Radios that I can try... Thanks for your comments! reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > Now it gets even more strange. I can't see anything in logs indicating a voulme change but not all sources of change for Radio have been logged (e.g. IR control) You may have more than one problem but the different problems have similar symptoms. So dealing with radio2 only. AT this stage it is better to think a bit more about the problem rather than hope logs will show answer as the you have eliminated the most likely cause. There is no "mute" command on LMS - the only "normal" ways for sound to stop abruptly are (i) pause and (ii) volume control to zero. When sound resume after knob clock - is it at same position (i.e paused) or has stream moved on (i.e. volumen set to zero) in the meantime. If it is "paused" then AFAIK twisting vol control change should not start playing. Similarly if volume is set to zero - a single turn should not bring back to "normal" volume. Without more details (i.e. is stream paused - what does NP screen show ? does audio continue without a gap) - I think the problem is hardware (e.g. could IR sensor be failing, could audio output have problems). Not sure what you can do except possibly reload firmware and factory reset. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Now it gets even more strange. The issue occurred again last week, but this time only RADIO2 was affected. As usually when the issue occurs the now playing screen doesn't show the currently played track but displays old information and no progress indication. After roughly 10 minutes the audio muted as usual in this situation. But this time I didn't switch to MYSB and back to work around, but simply changed the volume a point or two using the Radio's knob. And the music was back for another 10 or 11 minutes before it muted again. I repeated this game a few times and the music played always for about 10 or 11 minutes before it muted. I cannot see any hint in the log files, but maybe somebody else can? On the Radio, debug logging was enabled for audio.output, applet.NowPlaying and applet.Playback. For the server it's network.cometd and network.protocol.slimproto. 23041 23040 And here are the notes I made to help in relating the time to the events: Code: 05:45 switched on RADIO1 and it plays w/o issues 06:00 WiFi on AP for RADIO2 switched on, RADIO2 connects 06:10 SwitchPlayer plugin on RADIO1 sends album playlist to RADIO2, but RADIO2 doesn't play and is still in soft-off 06:13 switched on RADIO2 manually, now it plays correct tracks, but NP screen shows old info and no progress => usual indication of the issue 06:24±1 RADIO2 mutes suddenly, after changing volume a single point (knob) it continues to play 06:34 (changed volume of RADIO2 slightly again) 06:35 (changed volume of RADIO2 slightly again) 06:42 album playlist reached the end on RADIO2 06:46 restarted album playlist on RADIO2 06:56 RADIO2 mutes suddenly, after changing volume a single point (knob) it continues to play 07:08 RADIO2 mutes suddenly, after changing volume a single point (knob) it continues to play 07:19 RADIO2 mutes suddenly, after changing volume a single point (knob) it continues to play 07:30 RADIO2 mutes suddenly, after changing volume a single point (knob) it continues to play Are there other logging settings that might help in finding the root cause? +---+ |Filename: messages(Radio2-0626).zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23041| +---+ reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > > Initial suggestions: > audio.output to DEBUG > applet.NowPlaying to DEBUG > Did that. Will report back when the problem occurs again. In the meanwhile: is there a way to configure the time span for which the /var/log/messages file is storing the messages or to configure the number of files that are kept. Currently there are two and this might be not sufficient. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > no and no: the radios are not synced and the touch is not affected. > > edit: I meant no and yes :) It is strange that only the Radio are affected and not Touch since they use the same LMS code. >From the logs the Radios still appear to LMS to bve playing tracks well after teh audio stops and the Now Play screen stop. I think you need to enable more logging on the player. Initial suggestions: audio.output to DEBUG applet.NowPlaying to DEBUG audio.decode set to DEBUG would give extra info such as the fullness of the buffer as track is played and volume control changes but I'm not sure at this stage it it is useful. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
no and no: the radios are not synced and the touch is not affected. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Thanks for your effort so far, bpa! The LMS log is shorter because Radio stopped audio output before - either during the 3rd or 4th track. A few minutes later (cause if it happens, I'm usually in the shower and I feel a real pain when the music stops :() I went to the LMS PC, copied the server log and checked various other details before I copied the messages file over from the Radio. But if you really want to have another look, here is the server.log up to the start of the 10th track: 22905 I had to check for the applets, cause I wasn't aware: I had two applets installed in both Radios: bluegaspode's Weather Forecast and erland's Patch Installer (the latter indicated that an update was available). Now I uninstalled both. Note that when the problem occurs, often both Radios are affected! +---+ |Filename: server(slimproto-debug2).zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22905| +---+ reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
You cut off the LMS log compared to the RAdio log. The Radio log showed request for 8 Audio tracks - last one at 6:36 (with realistic time gaps to imply they have been played) but LMS log you supplied stops at 6:15:00. I'd like to have seen LMS logs up to same time. As the content of slimproto messages are not that important at the moment you can set slimproto log to INFO rather than DEBUG. It looks like a Radio issue but I'm not sure what other radio logging should be enabled - something relating to audio output. Do you have any applets installed in Radio (e.g. custom clock) ? Code: Jun 12 05:58:22 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:02:49 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:02:49 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:07:02 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:07:02 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:13:50 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:13:50 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:18:48 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:18:48 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:24:43 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:24:43 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:30:14 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:30:14 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M Jun 12 06:36:23 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:279 init decoder flc Jun 12 06:36:23 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:476 connect 192.168.2.100:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:RADIO1 HTTP/1.0^M bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
bpa wrote: > When you say " music stopped playing" - do you mean the audio stop (as > if muted) or did the "Now playing" screen also show stopped and not > playing and did elapsed time counterprogress bar also stop. The audio output of the Radio stopped. As mentioned, the "Now playing" screen doesn't work at all in those situations. After turning the Radio on from stand-by mode and selecting an album to play, it shows correct information only for a second or two and then it displays the information of what has been played before switching the Radio off (to stand-by) and it doesn't display progress although the music is playing for ~10-15 minutes. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > It happened again this morning and here is the server.log with debug > messages for slimproto and the Radio's /var/log/messages file. > There are 3 players involved (I modified the mac addresses in the files > accordingly): TOUCH1 (wired), RADIO1 (wireless) and RADIO2 (wireless). > The LMS server pc that was woken up by a scheduled task at ~05:45 has IP > address of 192.168.2.100, the players have *.104, *.105 and *.106. > > RADIO1 is the one that I've switched on in the morning at ~05:56 and > selected a local music album to play (the new Roger Waters album, btw). > The music stopped playing either before the 4th track started at ~06:07 > or shortly after. I marked some events in the server log (using a # > prefix). > > If I interpret the messages correctly then the server was still sending > data to the Radio (which was also shown in LMS WebUi) and even the > Radio's messages file seem to indicate that data was received. > > Is anybody able to find some hints for the problem in the files, > please? > > 22891 > 22892 The logs show that radio was receiving data and decoding it into an output buffer right up to the end of the log. There is no indication of any breakdown in communication. When you say " music stopped playing" - do you mean the audio stop (as if muted) or did the "Now playing" screen also show stopped and not playing and did elapsed time counterprogress bar also stop. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
It happened again this morning and here is the server.log with debug messages for slimproto and the Radio's /var/log/messages file. There are 3 players involved (I modified the mac addresses in the files accordingly): TOUCH1 (wired), RADIO1 (wireless) and RADIO2 (wireless). The LMS server pc that was woken up by a scheduled task at ~05:45 has IP address of 192.168.2.100, the players have *.104, *.105 and *.106. RADIO1 is the one that I've switched on in the morning at ~05:56 and selected a local music album to play (the new Roger Waters album, btw). The music stopped playing either before the 4th track started at ~06:07 or shortly after. I marked some events in the server log (using a # prefix). If I interpret the messages correctly then the server was still sending data to the Radio (which was also shown in LMS WebUi) and even the Radio's messages file seem to indicate that data was received. Is anybody able to find some hints for the problem in the files, please? 22891 22892 +---+ |Filename: server(slimproto-debug).zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22892| +---+ reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > - the music plays 10-15 minutes without re-buffering before it stops After the audio breakdown after 10-15 minutes - the log in the radio should also be check to see of Radio logs any unusual event. As a way to check if the problem is Wifi related or LMS comms related. Assuming LMS is not setup top proxy or transcode if you play a http MP3 or AAC stream on the Radio - the stream will play directly from station to Radio - LMS will not be involved in the communication and stream will use a single TCP connection. Does this stream play for say 20 minutes ? If yes then Wifi or IP address are not the issue -as Radiuo should keep playing a direct stream even if LMS communciation is broken. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Ok, I'll do. You've convinced me, because I'd give the same advices to somebody else having these issues. ;) Just waiting till the problem occurs again to see if there's some hint in the slimproto debug messages. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > Thanks for the hints. I know that there are many factors influencing > WiFi connectivity. > > Wiring these two Radios temporarily would mean to run cables of ~10 > meters over the floor. I'd rather want to avoid this. :) And I don't > like to invest in powerlan adapters, since this setup worked over years > - yes, I know, the neighborhood could have changed. And to answer your > questions: yes I've checked interferences with neighborhood signals and > it's still ok-ish and my access points use fixed control channels for > 2.4ghz. > > But what makes me think that it's not a typical WiFi issue are the > following points when the problem occurs: > - I've checked WiFi signal strength on the Radio and on LMS WebUI and it > was at least 60% > - I can switch the Radio to MYSB and back to LMS without problems (which > obviously involves network operations) and then the issue is gone > - the music plays 10-15 minutes without re-buffering before it stops > - after I've selected and started the local music, the now playing > screen shows correct track and cover information only for a second or > two and then it shows no progress indication and track and cover > information from before switching it to standby mode > - LMS WebUI shows correct track and progress is in sync with the music > playing on the Radio . . Humor me, does your SB Radio have a battery or is there an open AC socket near your router (I am assuming the answer is yes)? So MOVE your SB Radio to the router and use as short of an Ethernet cable as you like, no need to run a 40 foot Ethernet cable when the SB Radio can easily come to the Router. I have seen tons of these issues and solved tons of them, if you don't split the problem in half, you could very easily end up chasing your tail without ever solving your issue. By proving it happens or doesn't happen while using Ethernet also is the first and fastest way to eliminate an actual WiFi issue, splitting the problem in half. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Thanks for the hints. I know that there are many factors influencing WiFi connectivity. Wiring these two Radios temporarily would mean to run cables of ~10 meters over the floor. I'd rather want to avoid this. :) And I don't like to invest in powerlan adapters, since this setup worked over years - yes, I know, the neighborhood could have changed. And to answer your questions: yes I've checked interferences with neighborhood signals and it's still ok-ish and my access points use fixed control channels for 2.4ghz. But what makes me think that it's not a typical WiFi issue are the following points when the problem occurs: - I've checked WiFi signal strength on the Radio and on LMS WebUI and it was at least 60% - I can switch the Radio to MYSB and back to LMS without problems (which obviously involves network operations) and then the issue is gone - the music plays 10-15 minutes without re-buffering before it stops - after I've selected and started the local music, the now playing screen shows correct track and cover information only for a second or two and then it shows no progress indication and track and cover information from before switching it to standby mode - LMS WebUI shows correct track and progress is in sync with the music playing on the Radio reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
reinholdk wrote: > It has happened again - with LMS 7.9.1. > > Still don't think it's a WiFi issue. > . . Sound exactly like a WiFi issue to me. The proof would be to put both SB Radios on Ethernet and se how they act over several days. Quick question, do you on a 200 acre estate or are other homes near by? What I am asking is have you looked at your routers channel interference monitor? Is your WiFi Router using the default channel? Remember unlike a simple WiFi connection with a PC surfing the Internet, more is going on and more is involved with the SB Radio over and with the WiFi connection, LMS, and the Server. I would be willing to bet that Time-outs are even involved due to Server Processes. *iPhone* Media Room: ModWright Platinum Signature Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Transporter, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Office: Touch with Vandersteen VSM-1s Kitchen: Touch in-wall mount w/ Thiel Powerpoint 1.2s Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Around the House: SliMP3, SB1, SB2, SB3 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
It has happened again - with LMS 7.9.1. Still don't think it's a WiFi issue. DHCP server is configured to always provide the same pinned ip addresses for the SB devices and LMS server PC (in fact, for all devices that are regularly in the network). And it usually (always?) happens for both Radios. And switching the Radio to MYSB and back to LMS clears the issue. So the network seems to be ok. Now I have enabled debug logging for slimproto. Will report back when it happened again. Thanks so far. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
Are you using static IP or have arrange for DHCP to always assigned same IP to Radio If Radio is losing connection and DHCP reassign IP address - you can get problem like this. Any message in log file ? the 10-15 min connction failed will have a reason - just that it may require enabling logging for a module to show the reason. Try enable slimproto logging to see if losing connection creates an entry in log. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107435 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Strange connection issues between Radio and LMS
I've got two Radios on WiFi that both have occasional connection issues with LMS on a Win10 PC. Don't know when it started, maybe some time after updating LMS to 7.9.0? The symptoms are: - the local music I've selected to play is playing for maybe 10 or 15 mins and then stops - the now playing screen shows the artist/album/artwork from the previous playlist - the now playing screen doesn't indicate that anything is playing (no progress, no play symbol) There are two workarounds that fix this behavior: - rebooting the Radio, or - switching to MYSB and then back to LMS from the Radio's menu It doesn't seem to be a WiFi/network issue. If the problem occurs, then: - from the Radio's Settings/Advanced/Diagnosis/ServerInformation screen both MYSB and LMS connections are shown as OK for all ports - from the LMS WebUI the correct playlist for the player is shown and it shows progress - WiFi signal is more than 60% Unfortunately I couldn't find any pattern for the occurances. For some days all works fine and then for some days the problem appears. I typically find this problem in the morning after switching the Radio on, but it seems to occur also during the day, even with radio stations (according to family members). Maybe it occurs when the server PC is woken up from energy saving mode? During the night WiFi is switched off and the LMS server PC is sleeping in energy saving mode and the Radio is in standby (displaying the clock). But in the morning when I turn the Radio on, WiFi is already on and the LMS PC is usually up and running (woken up by the Windows scheduler; in cases when the PC is sleeping, the Radio wakes it up promptly). I do it this way since years. BTW, LMS runs as a Windows service and the music is stored on a local drive. Here's the server log. Maybe the "errorNeedsClient" message is relevant here? Code: [17-05-11 21:35:27.5707] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.0, 1488878280, Wed Mar 8 14:37:44 CUT 2017) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [17-05-11 21:35:30.1959] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table [17-05-11 21:35:30.2754] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! [17-05-11 21:35:31.4304] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::postConnect (374) Optimizing DB because of missing or empty sqlite_stat1 table [17-05-11 21:35:31.5016] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2149) Warning: Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized! [17-05-11 21:35:32.0084] main::checkDataSource () Warning: Schema updated or no media found in the database, initiating scan. [17-05-11 21:49:17.0420] main::init (388) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.0, 1488878280, Wed Mar 8 14:37:44 CUT 2017) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [17-05-12 05:44:37.7391] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-12 06:00:40.7148] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:yy:yy:yy, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-13 08:17:05.2652] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:yy:yy:yy, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-13 08:17:05.5287] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-14 09:25:25.9819] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:yy:yy:yy, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-14 09:25:26.8255] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-15 06:40:35.5276] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1244) Warning: [06:40:35.5255] Error: Unable to read at least 16 bytes from file (only read 13). [17-05-16 05:44:35.8359] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:yy:yy:yy, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-18 02:35:58.3184] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-18 02:35:58.3235] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-18 02:36:04.3356] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-18 02:36:04.3398] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-18 02:36:10.3479] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-18 02:36:10.3521] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx: request not dispatchable! [17-05-19 05:44:36.0257] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422) errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:xx:xx:xx, status, -, 10, menu:menu, useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600 [17-05-20 08:32:08.7240]
