[RBW] Sturmey s3x or s2 on a Quickbeam?

2011-02-23 Thread Philip Williamson
I'm itching to build a new wheelset around some cheap rims and spokes
I got from Iro. I'm thinking an Alfine dyno front, and either a fixed
3-speed s3x, or a brakeless two-speed kickback hub (the S2).

Does anyone have experience with either of these hubs?

I have a Sachs automatic 2-speed I ran for a while, but always
resented the coaster brake. I like fixed-gear riding better than
freewheeling, but I'm worried about the 3 degrees of reported chain
lash on the s3x.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Earl Grey
My guess is that an LHT would be a bigger theft target than a
Hillborne, as it is far easier to resell. I'd get a Sam.

I have 46cm noodles on the Sam, 48s on a monstercross. I don't notice
the difference, but of course the bikes are different in many ways. I
am 59.5. I also don't think the 48s look wide, even on a tiny 17
frame:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc797-gernothuber0510.html
(Look at second to last photo)

Cheers,

Gernot


On Feb 23, 6:26 am, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm a little over 6'1, and probably average shoulder width.  I had a
 pair of 48cm noodles on an old b-stone XO-1, and then bought a 60cm
 Rambouillet with a 46cm noodle on it.  Being used to the 48cm, I
 couldn't stand the 46cm.  So I put moustaches on the XO-1,put  the 48s
 on the Rambouillet, and put the 46s on my 5'-4 wife's Ramboulillet..
 and they are comfortable for her.  I personally just don't think
 there's a reason to go narrow other than style.  (Not that 46cm is
 exactly narrow, but 48cm just feels more stable.)  This is probably
 nonsense, but I also feel like I can breathe deeper - like my chest
 can expand better.

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread newenglandbike
It really depends on your build, but also on taste I think.   Just as
one more data-point:   I'm 6' and change and I have 46 noodle bars on
my 64 quickbeam, but also have a 25 Trek with 40cm bars. I like
them both and enjoy having the variety... I can alternate riding the
same 40mi route with either and be totally comfortable.

On Feb 22, 6:26 pm, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
This is probably
 nonsense, but I also feel like I can breathe deeper - like my chest
 can expand better.


Many don't think this is nonsense at all-- there is a common view on
bike-fit that wider bars make breathing easier by opening up the
chest.   Personally I think it's true but there is not necessarily a
huge difference-it is possible to keep your breathing easy by
keeping your shoulders back and elbows out on hills.

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Mojo
I am 6ft, 89cm PBH and ride a 62cm Riv Road and Legolas. I love the
fit of these bikes. But my LHT is a 60cm and with its longish top tube
I like its fit.

When I built up the LHT, I decided to try the wacky Noodle bar that
sweeps subtly back towards you. I bought a 46cm and loved it. Loved it
so much in fact that I eventually bought another 46 Noodle for my Riv
Road. On that bike the 46 bars felt too wide. The LHT is much heavier
with 3 racks (M-12  Tubus Duo and Cargo), bags, fenders, lights. The
Riv Road is much lighter and more spritely. So my lesson learned was,
I like wider bars on burly bikes and less wide bars on go-fast bikes.

On Feb 22, 11:06 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm planning on putting together a touring/camping bike this year and
 kicking around the idea of using 48cm Noodle handlebars. I've been
 using the 46s for years now and love them but when touring on them
 there have been times when I found myself wishing they were a tad
 wider, especially when climbing. I'm 6' and broad shouldered. I have a
 feeling the perceived drawbacks to using them are more mental and
 cosmetic. What are folks experiences with using them?

 Last year I sold my Rambouillet frame with the intention of using the
 funds for a Hunqapillar or maybe a Hillborne. I've taken my time in
 trying to make a decision and am starting to lean more towards an LHT.
 Yes, a far lesser bike but very capable and something I'm more
 inclined to feel comfortable locking up around town. I'd probably get
 a 60cm frame with the 26 wheels so with 48cm bars it would certainly
 be an odd looking bike but probably very practical. Who knows though,
 those new pictures of the SH really have the wheels in my head
 spinning. And I do like to support RBW.

 Thanks,
 mike

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Forrest
The Moustaches do provide phenomenal leverage for climbing.  I
recently put 48 Noodles on my Hillborne. Haven't had a chance yet to
ride them that much, but after a few short test spins, they didn't
seem that much different than the 46 Noodles on my Riv LongLow.  --
Forrest


On Feb 22, 3:53 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
 @Mike: I'm surprised at the 60cm LHT choice. I'm 6', PBH of 90 (so
 probably a *little* longer-legged than normal) and I'm sure I'd take
 the 62. Even it might feel a little small. My 60cm Hillborne (with
 upsloping top tubes) fits fine. But even it would be a little better
 at 61cm, perhaps even 62cm.

 Anyway...

 @Mike and @Leslie

 I'd love to see a 50cm Noodle, though I doubt it'll happen soon. If
 I'd purchased a 46cm Noodle, I'd've probably sold it within a few
 weeks of riding it. The 48cm is the smallest drop I'd ride. (It also
 happens to accommodate top-of-the-bar shifters just off the clamp with
 enough room for my hands on the tops as well as the all-important
 BarSack and its rack.)

 But...

 Have you considered the Moustache? I don't really climb (the Chicago
 area not being known for its hills :)). But I do really like the
 choice of hand positions the Moustache provides (near the ends for
 drops-like grip... behind the brakes for stretching out, in between
 for moderate relaxation). At 51.5cm wide, they're as close to a 50cm
 Noodle as I've seen, though admittedly that's not very close.

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

 On Feb 22, 2:48 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:







  I'm also 6' and not narrow-shouldered, and am running 48cm Noodles on
  my Rambouillet (a 60cm frame).  I really wouldn't want something
  narrower on there.

  I'm currently plotting a Bomba, tryin' to decide what to do... would
  be tempted to go w/ bigger Noodles if they had any bigger than 48's,
  or, maybe some drops that splay out...  but I may go w/ a
  Bullmoose still decipherin'

  -L

  On Feb 22, 1:06 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   I'm planning on putting together a touring/camping bike this year and
   kicking around the idea of using 48cm Noodle handlebars. I've been
   using the 46s for years now and love them but when touring on them
   there have been times when I found myself wishing they were a tad
   wider, especially when climbing. I'm 6' and broad shouldered. I have a
   feeling the perceived drawbacks to using them are more mental and
   cosmetic. What are folks experiences with using them?

   Last year I sold my Rambouillet frame with the intention of using the
   funds for a Hunqapillar or maybe a Hillborne. I've taken my time in
   trying to make a decision and am starting to lean more towards an LHT.
   Yes, a far lesser bike but very capable and something I'm more
   inclined to feel comfortable locking up around town. I'd probably get
   a 60cm frame with the 26 wheels so with 48cm bars it would certainly
   be an odd looking bike but probably very practical. Who knows though,
   those new pictures of the SH really have the wheels in my head
   spinning. And I do like to support RBW.

   Thanks,
   mike

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Mike
Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
camping/touring bike.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread brian feltovich
I went to a bike fitter here in town (long story) and he HATED my 48 Noodles. 
Why would you want to scoop so much air and work so much harder? he asked. 
And I thought, yeah, why would I? So I switched to some 44 Cinelli bars I had 
on the shelf and rode for a couple of months in the new, professionally 
approved, position. After a couple of weeks I put the lovely, super-wide, 
non-aerodynamic Noodles back on and never looked back. They may scoop more air 
but my wrists and shoulders are more comfortable and on longer rides that 
counts for a lot. I like the wider feel when I stand to climb, which I do a lot 
out here. And I love the more stable feel on descents. 
FWIW, I'm 6 ft tall and my shoulders are on the narrow side.

Brian
Park City, UT

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saluki 54cm

2011-02-23 Thread Rick
Very nice.  If I feed and water it, will it grow to 60?

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[RBW] Re: Sturmey s3x or s2 on a Quickbeam?

2011-02-23 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hey Philip:

I'm lacing up a brakeless S2 hub now (for use on my 86 Nishiki
Prestige).  It was so cheap online, I had to own one. I hope to have
this done within the next few weeks (several competing priorities are
delaying me!!!), after which I'll let you know how it comes out.  The
fixed 3-speed both intrigues (and scares) me.  If it helps with
staying in the pedals on downhills, that's pretty cool... it's a
limitation I have with the way my fixie is geared (with a lower, old
man gear), for which I have to slow down on the downhills.

Peace,
BB

On Feb 23, 3:15 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I'm itching to build a new wheelset around some cheap rims and spokes
 I got from Iro. I'm thinking an Alfine dyno front, and either a fixed
 3-speed s3x, or a brakeless two-speed kickback hub (the S2).

 Does anyone have experience with either of these hubs?

 I have a Sachs automatic 2-speed I ran for a while, but always
 resented the coaster brake. I like fixed-gear riding better than
 freewheeling, but I'm worried about the 3 degrees of reported chain
 lash on the s3x.

  Philip

  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I recently purchased a Bombadil and went with the suggestion of albatross bars 
figuring I would put 48 noodles on for touring.  Not going to happen. Best 
touring bars ever!  But then when touring I spend little time if any in drops.  
 

Anyway for me it was bug pleasant surprise.  

Kelly



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On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
 a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
 camping/touring bike.
 
 --mike
 
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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread William
I'm 5'10, 170lbs.  Straight up medium.  I ride 46 noodles on my
touring/trail bikes and 44s on my brevet bike and go-fast.  It's odd
to me that I'm riding almost the widest bars out there, since
shoulders come MUCH wider than mine.  Anecdotally I'd say for
everybody that tried a wider drop handlebar, very very few of them
ever said that was too wide.

On Feb 23, 7:08 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
 a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
 camping/touring bike.

 --mike

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
+1 for the Albatross bars. I'm sure there are lots of things they
don't do well. Apparently, though, I don't do any of those things at
all. They are the best.

For me, it's

1) 56cm Albatross
2) 51.5cm Moustache
3) 66cm Bullmoose (extended) - TallMoose
4a) 48cm Noodles
4b) 66cm Bullmoose (non-extended)

Interestingly, my first pair of Albatross bars were Nitto's 54cm wide
aluminum bars. I rode with them and thought (channeling my inner Snob)
meh. Later I put on Nitto's 56cm wide CrMo bars; I rode with them
and knew I had the bar for me from the very first ride. Those 2cm were
really important. And I have a set of Nitto's 56cm wide aluminum
Albatross bars, not sold by RBW; they are also wonderful. If there's a
difference in feel or anything, I don't notice it. It's all about
the width.

So much Nitto, so little time...

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Feb 23, 10:38 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recently purchased a Bombadil and went with the suggestion of albatross 
 bars figuring I would put 48 noodles on for touring.  Not going to happen. 
 Best touring bars ever!  But then when touring I spend little time if any in 
 drops.  

 Anyway for me it was bug pleasant surprise.  

 Kelly

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
  a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
  camping/touring bike.

  --mike

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Mike
I've got Albatross bars on my commuter and they're perfect for that.
In fact, they're probably the most perfect bar ever for around town. I
wouldn't want to ride them for anything over 20 miles although I know
others have. Also, on descents it just doesn't feel right, way too
upright. That's just me. At some point I'll put the Albatross bars on
my QB.

Watch, I'll try the 48s, love them and then swap out all the bars on
all my bikes. I'll never ride anything narrower than 46cm.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Jon Grant
On Feb 23, 7:08 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
 a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
 camping/touring bike.

---

William answered anyway:
 I'm 5'10, 170lbs.  Straight up medium.  I ride 46 noodles on my
 touring/trail bikes and 44s on my brevet bike and go-fast.  It's odd
 to me that I'm riding almost the widest bars out there, since
 shoulders come MUCH wider than mine.  Anecdotally I'd say for
 everybody that tried a wider drop handlebar, very very few of them
 ever said that was too wide.

---

So I'll pile on:
I'm 5'-8, 230 lbs, and built stout, as we say back home in Oklahoma. I
like 52cm Nitto Dirt Drops (vintage!) on our tandem, but they were too wide
for me on a single. I ride 48cm Noodles on both my regular drop-barred
bikes, and they feel most natural to me. My wife uses 46cm Noodles -- after
rejecting 48s as too wide -- and I find those acceptable. For me, even 44cm
drops feel a bit snug; anything narrower feels downright unpleasant, even on
a right-sized bike.

I like me some wide bars, mm-hm. But 52 cm? That's crazy talk!

-- Jon Papa Grant, who CANNOT WAIT for NAHBS this weekend, in
Austin, Texas


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[RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?

2011-02-23 Thread doug peterson
It is kinda amazing how much thought, effort  discussion occurs on
the subject of maintaining what is for most of us a relatively low
cost (I've heard of $100 chains but never known one), expendable
part.  Tinker away, my friends.

doug waxing poetic P

On Feb 22, 10:46 am, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote:
 I gotta go with you on this, omnigrid.  I think people get to
 mystical about chain lube.  As a side note I was amazed to see the
 rusty covered squeaky creaky chains people had on their daily riders
 when I went down to Cozumel, Mex.

 On Feb 22, 8:23 am, omnigrid omnig...@gmail.com wrote:



  you guys sure go through alot of trouble lubing your chains.

  I hit each link with a drop of boshield after riding in wet conditions or
  when the chain makes any sound, let it sit overnight or a few hours, and
  then wipe off. no problems. easy.

  On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:58 AM, jim phillips 
  thefamil...@hotmail.comwrote:

    Why would moisture haver an effect on wax. I wax guns and knives to keep
   them from rusting due to the high humidity here...

   JimP

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   Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:22:02 -0800
   Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: waxing chains--how hot the wax?
   From: cyclotour...@gmail.com
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

   I use a Fry Baby deep fryer.  I don't know what temp it heats to.  FYI,
   the wax is useless with the slightest bit of moisture.  Not a problem for 
   me
   in the summer as it performs wonderfully in dry and dusty conditions.

   On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

   Check out EcoVelo - Alan has several posts on the how-to's and why-
   to's of waxing.

   -Pete

   On Feb 22, 4:45 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
     Surprised I didn't find the definitive answer in the archives, or a
riv reader for that matter.

The 1992 Bridgestone catalogue mentions using a double boiler, thus
212 Fahrenheit max.

Riv Reader Vol 1 Issue 1 says Grant uses a 400 F bath, and says the
flash point is 425 F. Also says don't do this at home (liability
reasons, one assumes).

So, what do the extra 188 F get you? Lower viscosity and better
penetration? Has anyone found this to matter, or has anyone the
necessary scientific background to theorize upon the topic?

Winter here is bone dry season, so it seems like the time to finally
try wax after 20 years of cycling.

Cheers,

Gernot

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   probably benefit more from
   improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

2011-02-23 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean

 ...wonderful setup for humorous ending...

 I like me some wide bars, mm-hm. But 52 cm? That's crazy talk!

 -- Jon Papa Grant, who CANNOT WAIT for NAHBS this weekend, in
 Austin, Texas

Crazy like a fox!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] noisy front hub

2011-02-23 Thread james
I have some phil wood hubs on my sam hillborne and a while back the
front one got real noisy making some clinking and clanking.  I thought
at first if i trued the wheel ever so slightly that would help, but
no, and i thought i would remove breaks and fenders just to make sure,
but the clinking and clanking went on.  then it went away for a little
while, so i din't worry about it.  then it came back.  currently
(today and yesterday) its gone again... but i'm wondering, should i
buy some phil wood bearings and replace them?  is this very
difficult?  i looked through the walkthrough pdf they have on their
site and it looks easy.  can it be done with the hub still laced up?

any info appreciated!

james

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[RBW] Re: noisy front hub

2011-02-23 Thread William
not specific help on the Phil bearing replacement, but the comment
that some mysterious wheel noises are attributed to the joint of the
rim.  typically the rim is extruded in a long curlicue of metal.  then
it is cut into rims, an internal sleeve lines things up, and then the
rim is pinned, or welded and machined back down.  The sleeve itself in
some processes is not secured to the rim internally by anything but
friction, so with a tire on, and with spoke tension and then with a
rider on the bike, it might be just enough to let that thing click
around inside the rim.  Before you replace bearings, have a look at
that possibility.  It would be frustrating to go through that effort
and have it NOT fix the problem.

Maybe put a bright strip of tape connecting the two spokes that
straddle the seam.  If the click always clicks when that strip of tape
is on the bottom, nearest the road, then that might be your issue.
This is after checking the most common noise, although its a really
quiet click, snugging up the presta valve nut.

When I've had noisy rim joints, I've used a drift punch inside to
dimple the rim to snug up that sleeve a little tighter.  Another time
I drilled a small hole inside the rim on either side of the seam and
dripped a drop of expanding gorilla glue to keep that sleevy bit from
rattling around.

On Feb 23, 11:31 am, james meine...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some phil wood hubs on my sam hillborne and a while back the
 front one got real noisy making some clinking and clanking.  I thought
 at first if i trued the wheel ever so slightly that would help, but
 no, and i thought i would remove breaks and fenders just to make sure,
 but the clinking and clanking went on.  then it went away for a little
 while, so i din't worry about it.  then it came back.  currently
 (today and yesterday) its gone again... but i'm wondering, should i
 buy some phil wood bearings and replace them?  is this very
 difficult?  i looked through the walkthrough pdf they have on their
 site and it looks easy.  can it be done with the hub still laced up?

 any info appreciated!

 james

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[RBW] Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread Scott Postlewait
Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some quick 
shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.  

Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
from many folks at Riv.

Best,
Scott Postlewait
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Sturmey s3x or s2 on a Quickbeam?

2011-02-23 Thread Michael Richters
Elton Pope-Lance (of Harris Cyclery) has a Quickbeam with an S3X:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157625727619871/

I don't have any experience with the hub myself, but I am planning to
get my SimpleOne set up that way when it arrives.  I've been wondering
what the shifting experience will be like, but since I've already
decided to try it, I'll find out by exploration.  SimpleThree,
perhaps?

  --Mike

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm itching to build a new wheelset around some cheap rims and spokes
 I got from Iro. I'm thinking an Alfine dyno front, and either a fixed
 3-speed s3x, or a brakeless two-speed kickback hub (the S2).

 Does anyone have experience with either of these hubs?

 I have a Sachs automatic 2-speed I ran for a while, but always
 resented the coaster brake. I like fixed-gear riding better than
 freewheeling, but I'm worried about the 3 degrees of reported chain
 lash on the s3x.

  Philip

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread William
Scott

Very VERY well-done.  My buddy Doug had a bear of a time getting those
compound curved woodies into his A. Homer Hilsen.  Betty's generous
clearances seem to have taken them without much issue.  Stunning color
combos.  I like the quickbeam style crankset choice (guard/medium/
small) rings in particular.

On Feb 23, 10:32 am, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

 I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some 
 quick shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.  

 Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
 from many folks at Riv.

 Best,
 Scott Postlewait
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork

2011-02-23 Thread Clayton Scott
Hi All,

Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process
much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more
thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo
eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer
bolt and locknut.

Thanks,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in
 excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored
 indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King
 headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept
 an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San
 Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week.

 Thanks,
 Clayton


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[RBW] Re: noisy front hub

2011-02-23 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I think Phil Wood hubs are designed to be field seviceable. To me,
that would certainly imply that you would not have to unlace/relace
the wheel in order to replace the bearings.

Looking at the PDF on the Phil Wood web-site that walks one through
bearing replacement, I cannot see anything you need to do that spokes
or the rim would interfere with. I'm presuming that the PDF process
that applies to the rear freewheel hub is applicable to front hubs
too.

I especially like the trick of using the old bearings and a quick-
release axle to push the new bearings into place. Perhaps that is
obvious to those who've worked closely with devices that use bearings.
But to me it just seems inspired.

All that said... I'd expect the front hub not to need service before
several thousand miles of use. And I'd think some of those miles would
have to be in pretty crappy conditions. I've got 2500 miles on my
Phil Wood rear hub, with hundreds of those miles in wet, sometimes
sandy, salty or muddy conditions. It certainly doesn't need service. I
know they use different bearings front-versus-rear... but I'd think
the expected replacement interval would not be worse for the fronts.

(Just watch... I'll get back on my bike after work today and hear the
most horrible grinding noises... :))

Good luck!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Feb 23, 1:31 pm, james meine...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some phil wood hubs on my sam hillborne and a while back the
 front one got real noisy making some clinking and clanking.  I thought
 at first if i trued the wheel ever so slightly that would help, but
 no, and i thought i would remove breaks and fenders just to make sure,
 but the clinking and clanking went on.  then it went away for a little
 while, so i din't worry about it.  then it came back.  currently
 (today and yesterday) its gone again... but i'm wondering, should i
 buy some phil wood bearings and replace them?  is this very
 difficult?  i looked through the walkthrough pdf they have on their
 site and it looks easy.  can it be done with the hub still laced up?

 any info appreciated!

 james

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork

2011-02-23 Thread Clayton Scott
Pictures here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/with/5471069613/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/with/5471069613/
Best,
Clayton

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process
 much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more
 thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo
 eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer
 bolt and locknut.

 Thanks,
 Clayton Scott
 SF, CA


 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in
 excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored
 indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King
 headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept
 an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San
 Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week.

 Thanks,
 Clayton




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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork

2011-02-23 Thread Michael_S
dang, I wish that was a 60ctt.  62 is just too big for me.

~Mike

On Feb 23, 1:38 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pictures here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit...
 Best,
 Clayton

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote:



  Hi All,

  Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process
  much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more
  thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo
  eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer
  bolt and locknut.

  Thanks,
  Clayton Scott
  SF, CA

  On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hi All,

  Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in
  excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored
  indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King
  headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to 
  accept
  an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San
  Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week.

  Thanks,
  Clayton- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork

2011-02-23 Thread Clayton Scott
it is just 2 cm ;-)

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 dang, I wish that was a 60ctt.  62 is just too big for me.

 ~Mike

 On Feb 23, 1:38 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:
  Pictures here:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit...
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit..
 .
  Best,
  Clayton
 
  On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   Hi All,
 
   Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay
 process
   much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One
 more
   thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo
   eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly
 longer
   bolt and locknut.
 
   Thanks,
   Clayton Scott
   SF, CA
 
   On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi All,
 
   Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in
   excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored
   indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King
   headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to
 accept
   an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San
   Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week.
 
   Thanks,
   Clayton- Hide quoted text -
 
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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread Rene Sterental
Very nice! Almost a twin sister to mine... :-)

I'm sure you'll ride it too... Or will your wife let you?

Enjoy!

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:

 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

 I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some 
 quick shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.

 Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
 from many folks at Riv.

 Best,
 Scott Postlewait
 Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread Rob Harrison
VERY nice. What's the crankset? Looks like mebbe a Riv QuickBeam with a smaller 
inner chainring?

Are we going to see it on the Chilly Hilly on Sunday? :)

Rob in Seattle

On Feb 23, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Scott Postlewait wrote:

 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread grrlyrida
Simply gorgeous. Well done. I love the component you chose. Everything
fits and looks beautiful.

On Feb 23, 10:32 am, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

 I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some 
 quick shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.  

 Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
 from many folks at Riv.

 Best,
 Scott Postlewait
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Color

2011-02-23 Thread William
...and the bidding got to $2600.  That's nice that Riv has now gotten
all they have to get out of it.  Now every dollar is to Smile Train.
Hopefully the bids will keep coming.

On Feb 22, 9:15 pm, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:
 If the head tube was painted a creme white to match the fenders, and
 the seat tube decal was the same creme, it would be an outta-the-
 ballpark home run.  It's still mighty pretty as-is.  The nice thing
 about neutral earthy colors is that ten or fifteen years down the road
 they stand the test of time.

 Bill

 On Feb 22, 2:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:







  I like the grilver a lot.  Bidding is underway.  Somebody is going to
  get a great deal.

  On Feb 22, 9:17 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   I really like the new color and the look of the fenders. I saw those
   fenders when I was at RBWHQ last Sept and thought they were great. The
   appeared thicker than the standard SKS and the cream color looked to
   be the actual color of the fender, not paint. Nice that they're
   longer.

   The whole bike looks great.

   --mike

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[RBW] Atlantis color?

2011-02-23 Thread doug peterson
Has anyone ever had something painted to match their Atlantis?  I'm
talking to a guy (not local to me) about painting some parts to match
the standard color.  He says if he has a Dupont automotive paint
number he can do it.  The Testor's modeling paint is OK for touch up
but not close enough for a large area.  So if anyone has solved this
problem already I'm interested in hearing from you.

dougP

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis color?

2011-02-23 Thread Mike
Have you contacted Rivendell? Seems like they'd be able to help you
with it. Or even Waterford since they're now making the Atlantis for
Riv.

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 Has anyone ever had something painted to match their Atlantis?  I'm
 talking to a guy (not local to me) about painting some parts to match
 the standard color.  He says if he has a Dupont automotive paint
 number he can do it.  The Testor's modeling paint is OK for touch up
 but not close enough for a large area.  So if anyone has solved this
 problem already I'm interested in hearing from you.

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread RoadieRyan
Beautiful build Scott, love the pallet and those fenders are amazing.
I am sure you wife will have miles of smiles on the Betty

Ryan
West Seattle

On Feb 23, 10:32 am, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

 I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some 
 quick shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.  

 Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
 from many folks at Riv.

 Best,
 Scott Postlewait
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: noisy front hub

2011-02-23 Thread Benedikt
At one point I made the mistake of pressure washing my front wheel/
bike at a car wash.  Water got into the front hub and fouled the
grease.  Shortly there after the hub started making noise which was
also a little hard for me to pinpoint.  All that was needed was a
cleaning and repacking/greasing of the bearings.  This hub was not of
the sealed, cartridge bearing type.  I don't know what Phil hubs are
but could water have penetrated your hub?  That was a cheap Fuji hub
that went on to last 9000+ miles.

On Feb 23, 11:31 am, james meine...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have some phil wood hubs on my sam hillborne and a while back the
 front one got real noisy making some clinking and clanking.  I thought
 at first if i trued the wheel ever so slightly that would help, but
 no, and i thought i would remove breaks and fenders just to make sure,
 but the clinking and clanking went on.  then it went away for a little
 while, so i din't worry about it.  then it came back.  currently
 (today and yesterday) its gone again... but i'm wondering, should i
 buy some phil wood bearings and replace them?  is this very
 difficult?  i looked through the walkthrough pdf they have on their
 site and it looks easy.  can it be done with the hub still laced up?

 any info appreciated!

 james

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[RBW] Re: On shipping bike parts to our two finest states

2011-02-23 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Ok that makes sense then.. guess I'm just sheltered and didn't even consider 
UPS considering areas unsafe.  
That would drive me nuts .. (short drive fyi) and I would never get anything 
if I had to sit home.
Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Sturmey s3x or s2 on a Quickbeam?

2011-02-23 Thread Philip Williamson
I may go the crazy way and build two rear wheels - one S2, one S3X.
They'd both match my existing SON front wheel. Then I could put a
dynohub on my wife's bike instead.

(But I NEED six wheelsets for two bikes!)...
 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Feb 23, 8:19 am, Michael Richters michael.richt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Elton Pope-Lance (of Harris Cyclery) has a Quickbeam with an S3X:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20909677@N05/sets/72157625727619871/

 I don't have any experience with the hub myself, but I am planning to
 get my SimpleOne set up that way when it arrives.  I've been wondering
 what the shifting experience will be like, but since I've already
 decided to try it, I'll find out by exploration.  SimpleThree,
 perhaps?

   --Mike

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 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm itching to build a new wheelset around some cheap rims and spokes
  I got from Iro. I'm thinking an Alfine dyno front, and either a fixed
  3-speed s3x, or a brakeless two-speed kickback hub (the S2).

  Does anyone have experience with either of these hubs?

  I have a Sachs automatic 2-speed I ran for a while, but always
  resented the coaster brake. I like fixed-gear riding better than
  freewheeling, but I'm worried about the 3 degrees of reported chain
  lash on the s3x.

   Philip

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[RBW] Rivish ride on a Rivish bike

2011-02-23 Thread trevor segraves
I realize my bike is not a Rivendell, though the build is quite Rivish 
inspired, 
Thought the group may enjoy the photos

Took a ride up Harding Truck Trail on Saddleback Mountain here in Southern 
California, Passed maybe 4 other riders all day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7649556@N02/

Cheers, and apologies if this is off topic

Trevor
Laguna Beach, Ca


  

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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread Scott Postlewait
Cool!  I'd love to see some pictures of it!
Yes, I'm looking forward to trying Katie's Betty Foy - initial impressions are 
very positive.  Nice to have another 650B in the house.  I enjoy my Rawland 
cSogn.

Best,
Scott Postlewait


On Feb 23, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Rene Sterental wrote:

 Very nice! Almost a twin sister to mine... :-)
 
 I'm sure you'll ride it too... Or will your wife let you?
 
 Enjoy!
 
 René
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4
 
 On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
 
 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/
 
 I'm planning to take some better pics in the coming weeks, but took some 
 quick shots after she took Betty for an inaugural ride.
 
 Was a pleasure to work on such a nice frameset.  Incredible customer service 
 from many folks at Riv.
 
 Best,
 Scott Postlewait
 Seattle, WA
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread Scott Postlewait
On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:08 PM, William wrote:

 Very VERY well-done.  My buddy Doug had a bear of a time getting those
 compound curved woodies into his A. Homer Hilsen.  



Thanks! Yes, the compound curve woody's threw me for a bit of a loop.  Rear one 
mounted just fine.  Front one, not so much.  I'm still not pleased with the 
front one - not much clearance, and a bit of brake interference.  We'll live 
with it for a bit, and then I might start trimming it and see if I can 
improve the fit (knowing full well that sometimes the trimming to improve 
exacerbates the problem)

Scott 





 
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 Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set on 
 Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/
 
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Color

2011-02-23 Thread Fai Mao
Actually I think a dark maroon or orange headtube would work with that
bike. The cream on silver is too light. A black would also look very
good. I think overall the orange was better.

On Feb 23, 1:15 pm, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:
 If the head tube was painted a creme white to match the fenders, and
 the seat tube decal was the same creme, it would be an outta-the-
 ballpark home run.  It's still mighty pretty as-is.  The nice thing
 about neutral earthy colors is that ten or fifteen years down the road
 they stand the test of time.

 Bill

 On Feb 22, 2:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:



  I like the grilver a lot.  Bidding is underway.  Somebody is going to
  get a great deal.

  On Feb 22, 9:17 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   I really like the new color and the look of the fenders. I saw those
   fenders when I was at RBWHQ last Sept and thought they were great. The
   appeared thicker than the standard SKS and the cream color looked to
   be the actual color of the fender, not paint. Nice that they're
   longer.

   The whole bike looks great.

   --mike- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] noisy front hub

2011-02-23 Thread omnigrid
are you sure it's even the wheel that is emitting the sound? the sound you
describe does not sound like worn hub bearings.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:31 PM, james meine...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have some phil wood hubs on my sam hillborne and a while back the
 front one got real noisy making some clinking and clanking.  I thought
 at first if i trued the wheel ever so slightly that would help, but
 no, and i thought i would remove breaks and fenders just to make sure,
 but the clinking and clanking went on.  then it went away for a little
 while, so i din't worry about it.  then it came back.  currently
 (today and yesterday) its gone again... but i'm wondering, should i
 buy some phil wood bearings and replace them?  is this very
 difficult?  i looked through the walkthrough pdf they have on their
 site and it looks easy.  can it be done with the hub still laced up?

 any info appreciated!

 james

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Re: [RBW] Rivish ride on a Rivish bike

2011-02-23 Thread Stonehog
Nice pics!  Looks like the conditions Seattle is getting tonight (snow).  

 Brian

On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:54 PM, trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I realize my bike is not a Rivendell, though the build is quite Rivish 
 inspired, Thought the group may enjoy the photos
 
 Took a ride up Harding Truck Trail on Saddleback Mountain here in Southern 
 California, Passed maybe 4 other riders all day.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/7649556@N02/
 
 Cheers, and apologies if this is off topic
 
 Trevor
 Laguna Beach, Ca
 
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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy build

2011-02-23 Thread AmiSingh
Scott, that is a sensational looking bicycle!  Betty deserves to be
the centerfold in a magazine ;)

I hope your wife appreciates her more than we do ... I am still
oogling Betty, third time I looked at your new ride today!

Well done.

On Feb 23, 6:00 pm, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
 On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:08 PM, William wrote:

  Very VERY well-done.  My buddy Doug had a bear of a time getting those
  compound curved woodies into his A. Homer Hilsen.  

 Thanks! Yes, the compound curve woody's threw me for a bit of a loop.  Rear 
 one mounted just fine.  Front one, not so much.  I'm still not pleased with 
 the front one - not much clearance, and a bit of brake interference.  We'll 
 live with it for a bit, and then I might start trimming it and see if I can 
 improve the fit (knowing full well that sometimes the trimming to improve 
 exacerbates the problem)

 Scott





  On Feb 23, 10:32 am, Scott Postlewait chsc...@drizzle.com wrote:
  Finished (mostly) my wife's Betty Foy build this weekend and posted a set 
  on Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/34328495@N04/sets/72157625935461676/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-23 Thread Rob Harrison
On the ferry, we're talking about the *inside* lowest level at the 
Seattle-facing side, not the car deck, I'm going to assume.

Man, it's sure lookin' CHILLY outside my house right now. 

S'posed to warm up by Sunday though.

Rob in Mt. Baker, the neighborhood


On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Linkbeak wrote:

 As far as meeting beforehand - there is a Starbucks just North of the
 terminal where we could meet, if we get there EARLY.  Last years 8 am
 ish ferry filled up, and I went to Sbux rather than wait in the cold
 for the next ferry.
 
 We could also try to meet somewhere on the ferry - perhaps on the
 lowest level at the rear or Seattle facing side. It should be the
 least crowded.

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