Re: [RBW] need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
I dont like being on non-drop bars for more than 30 miles or so, personally. I did run a Jitensha bar for a little while...but they also hurt from the lack of hand positions eventually. I think I'd rather stretch regular and get more flexible than ride on non-drops during a tour/brevet. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:09 PM, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hello folks
Hello Scot, I'm fairly new to following this list and haven't posted before. I've owned an Atlantis for about 10 months - love it! - and use it daily on a 30 mile round-trip commute. I've taken it on a couple of short tours and have a longer one planned for the end of June. The first Rivendell I saw in person was an Atlantis on my commute the day mine arrived at home. There was a guy riding it on the trail I commute to work on and he had had his about 7 years. It looked as beautiful as a new one. I am located in Northern Virginia, but spend time in Clearwater fixing up (just about done) the condo my parents lived in for many years, so in about 2-3 years when I get my bike down there I'll be able to say I'm from the Tampa Bay area. Joe On May 15, 7:10 pm, Scotty wrote: > I just thought I would introduce myself. Im Scot and I live in Holiday > Florida. 3 weeks ago I ordered a new A Homer Hilsen complete bike from > Rivendell. They told me it would take 8 weeks for them to get the > frame and another 2 weeks for them to build it up. I am very excited > to get and ride my bike. I have been drooling over the Rivbike website > for a few years now and I came into the opportunity to get one and > took it. It was a little bit of a gamble as I have not actually seen > one in person. I am going solely on research and reputation. I have > seen and ridden a Grant designed Bridgestone and I am fully confident > in his work and Keven was very helpfull in my parts selection and > sizing. > > I am also a member of the Surly Owners Group and i own and ride a > Surly Long Haul Trucker. I have put allot of miles on my Surly and > have also lost over 70 pounds riding it so My Riv is a bit of a reward > for reaching a short term fitness goal and will hopefully keep me > motivated to reach my long term goals of further weight loss and > fitness as well as replacing my cars whenever possible. > I have already gotten some good info from your group here and have > some more reading to do. If there are any other Tampa Bay area > Rivendell owners on here please say hi. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
thanks everyonei was reading on the north road bars and how they're supposed to have a more natural wrist pronation angle than the albatross, in how they slightly flair outwardsinteresting trekking bars: why do they make them so darned wide however? I would love to try a pair if i could get some narrower ones. cyclotourist wrote: > Happy metric Tuesday to you! > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, EricP wrote: > > > Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, > > but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike > > and rode 64 miles on them today. > > > > Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. > > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > > On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB > > wrote: > > > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > > > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > > > > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > > > used them they are worth a try. > > > > > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both > > long > > > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) > > so > > > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would > probably benefit more from > improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Both VO and Soma have a few bars that are albatross like, but narrower. Actually, so does Riv, the Dove Bar -- classic 3 speed bars. Cheaper than Albatross too! Soma has that Lauterwasser bar that's sort of half drop half moustache. There seem to be a lot of choices to try! I recently tried the Nitto u-shape bars "B-617 Promenade Handlebar". Mixed feeleings about it. It's narrow - 45cm. I think it needs to be either higher or farther away than is possible on this particular bike so that my knees are well clear. It's comfortable on the grip portion, or to grab it on the horizontal part near the stem clamp. It's still a 'possible' for the simple-one that is hopefully coming soon. I like the albatross. I like drops too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 2009 52cm Quickbeam
What's up with the black tape on the toptube? Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. On May 17, 7:33 pm, manueljohnacosta wrote: > Great bike for a great price. Coodios to the lucky person to snatch > the beauty. > > On May 17, 6:34 pm, johnb wrote: > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157626621477823/ > > > Better link to pictures... > > > On May 17, 9:31 pm, johnb wrote: > > > > As part of the pruning of the bicycle collection, I am selling a two- > > > year old Quickbeam. Atlantis less than six weeks away... > > > > Photos are http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/ > > > 72157626621477823/">here. > > > > Here is a link to the QB's geometry > > > -http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html > > > (Note they do not show the 52) My PBH is 78cm and this bike fits quite > > > nicely with the Col de Vies on it. While I would be happy to measure > > > the basics and you can ask me nitty gritty questions like what is the > > > head tube angle but I may not be able to provide the answer... > > > > Again, it is a stock build (you would think after last week's sale I > > > would know exactly what is on the bike but no...) > > > > Specs: > > > > - 52cm frame > > > - Sugino XD2 crank set (40x32) > > > - White Industries Duo (17x19) > > > - Velo-Orange hammered fenders > > > - Col de Vie tires > > > - No saddle > > > - Grip King pedals > > > - Silver brakes > > > - Albatross bars/cork grips/Mt Bike brake levers > > > - Nitto stem (10cm?) /seat tube > > > - Mark's rack/basket > > > > Price: $1200/OBO + shipping unless you are local to Baltimore/DC. > > > > Bike will move to Craigslist in Baltimore on Thursday evening. > > > > Bike has never been in an accident. Was ridden maybe 2K miles total > > > (550 in one week in NC in 2009). As noted above, happy to answer any > > > and all questions as best I can. > > > > john- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Whole Lotta Things for Sale
Dustin: Whatta stash! Ryan On May 17, 9:08 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Time for some spring-cleaning and I thought I¹d offer things up to the list > before sticking them on flea-bay. > > Shipping prices are to CONUS via either USPS priority mail or parcel post. > (my choice depending on what is closest to what I have charged for shipping) > It may take me a few days to get boxes for some of the items, so please > don¹t buy them if you are in a super-duper hurry. I will get them out > within the week though. > > I think the prices are pretty fair and I have set them low enough to avoid > needing to haggle. I am happy to combine shipping if you want multiple > items. > > Please go to flickr for details on conditions and pics: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ > > Please e-mail me directly at: paleo.v...@gmail.com. I only get the digest > version of the list, so I won¹t get it very quickly if you send messages > that way. > > Thanks in advance, > > Dustin Sharp > > San Diego, Calif. > > (1) Nitto Noodle Bars two sets both 46cm. $50 each + shipping. > > (2) Thomson seatposts three of them all silver and 27.2. Varying > condition and prices, $35 40 + shipping. > > (3) Profile BMX single speed chainwheel - 39T. $20 + shipping. > > (4) Surly Stainless Steel Chainwheel 38T. $20 + shipping > > (5) Shimano XTR Dual Control Levers M970 - V-brake model. $200 + > shipping. > > (6) Nitto UI-5GX stems two of them, 100 and 120. 26.0. $50 each + > shipping. > > (7) Two Koobi PRS Alpha Saddles. $70 + shipping and $50 plus shipping. > > (8) Three Ortlieb Saddlebags, two large, one medium. $20 each plus > shipping. > > (9) Nitto Technomic stem (12cm, 26.0) $25 + shipping. > > (10) Salsa Lip Lock Seat Clamp. 30.0 clamp size. $10 + shipping. > > (11) Rivendell-built Mavic Open Sport/105 front wheel. 700C $100 + 15 > shipping. > > (12) Berthoud Race Saddle, Ti Rails. $100 + 10 shipping. > > (13) ZTR 355 29er / XT hub wheelset. $300 + shipping. > > (14) Specialized S-Works All Conditions Tires 700x25, set of two, $40 + > shipping. > > (15) Tubus Logo Rack - Stainless Steel Version. $80 + 20 shipping. > > (16) Ortlieb Backroller Classic Panniers. $80 + 20 shipping. > > (17) Arkel XM-28 Panniers in Burgundy. $100 + 20 shipping. > > (18) Nitto Campee Front Rack. $100 + 20 shipping. > > (19) Groovy Cycles Luv Handles MTB Bars. $50 + 10 shipping. > > (20) Jones Bars/Ergon grips (new versions). $90 + 10 shipping. > > (21) Berthoud Saddle Bag $40 + 8 shipping. > > (22) Blackburn rear rack $10 + 10 shipping. > > (23) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder. $45 + 5 shipping. > > (24) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder and 46-34-20 rings, hardcoat and slickshift. > $60 + 10 shipping. > > (25) BBG Bashguards. $5 each + 5 shipping. > > (26) Cateye EL-610. $50 + 10 shipping. > > (27) Minoura handlebar bottle mounts. $6 each + 5 shipping. > > (28) Salsa Cross Guard Bashring. $10 + 5 shipping. > > (29) Phil Wood 123mm BB, with Cups, Symmetrical > > Finally, I have a couple of items not pictured on Flickr, but which will be > for sale in the next week and photos will be available soon: > > (1) SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no > BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the > cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. > > (2) Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 > shipping. > > (3) Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. > > (4) Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $50 + shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Whole Lotta Things for Sale
Hi everyone, Time for some spring-cleaning and I thought I¹d offer things up to the list before sticking them on flea-bay. Shipping prices are to CONUS via either USPS priority mail or parcel post. (my choice depending on what is closest to what I have charged for shipping) It may take me a few days to get boxes for some of the items, so please don¹t buy them if you are in a super-duper hurry. I will get them out within the week though. I think the prices are pretty fair and I have set them low enough to avoid needing to haggle. I am happy to combine shipping if you want multiple items. Please go to flickr for details on conditions and pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ Please e-mail me directly at: paleo.v...@gmail.com. I only get the digest version of the list, so I won¹t get it very quickly if you send messages that way. Thanks in advance, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. (1) Nitto Noodle Bars two sets both 46cm. $50 each + shipping. (2) Thomson seatposts three of them all silver and 27.2. Varying condition and prices, $35 40 + shipping. (3) Profile BMX single speed chainwheel - 39T. $20 + shipping. (4) Surly Stainless Steel Chainwheel 38T. $20 + shipping (5) Shimano XTR Dual Control Levers M970 - V-brake model. $200 + shipping. (6) Nitto UI-5GX stems two of them, 100 and 120. 26.0. $50 each + shipping. (7) Two Koobi PRS Alpha Saddles. $70 + shipping and $50 plus shipping. (8) Three Ortlieb Saddlebags, two large, one medium. $20 each plus shipping. (9) Nitto Technomic stem (12cm, 26.0) $25 + shipping. (10) Salsa Lip Lock Seat Clamp. 30.0 clamp size. $10 + shipping. (11) Rivendell-built Mavic Open Sport/105 front wheel. 700C $100 + 15 shipping. (12) Berthoud Race Saddle, Ti Rails. $100 + 10 shipping. (13) ZTR 355 29er / XT hub wheelset. $300 + shipping. (14) Specialized S-Works All Conditions Tires 700x25, set of two, $40 + shipping. (15) Tubus Logo Rack - Stainless Steel Version. $80 + 20 shipping. (16) Ortlieb Backroller Classic Panniers. $80 + 20 shipping. (17) Arkel XM-28 Panniers in Burgundy. $100 + 20 shipping. (18) Nitto Campee Front Rack. $100 + 20 shipping. (19) Groovy Cycles Luv Handles MTB Bars. $50 + 10 shipping. (20) Jones Bars/Ergon grips (new versions). $90 + 10 shipping. (21) Berthoud Saddle Bag $40 + 8 shipping. (22) Blackburn rear rack $10 + 10 shipping. (23) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder. $45 + 5 shipping. (24) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder and 46-34-20 rings, hardcoat and slickshift. $60 + 10 shipping. (25) BBG Bashguards. $5 each + 5 shipping. (26) Cateye EL-610. $50 + 10 shipping. (27) Minoura handlebar bottle mounts. $6 each + 5 shipping. (28) Salsa Cross Guard Bashring. $10 + 5 shipping. (29) Phil Wood 123mm BB, with Cups, Symmetrical Finally, I have a couple of items not pictured on Flickr, but which will be for sale in the next week and photos will be available soon: (1) SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. (2) Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 shipping. (3) Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. (4) Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $50 + shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?
This is your annodization, and it's ending one minute at a time. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:24 PM, rperks wrote: > I have used Red Devil lye in a warm water bath. Long gloves and eye > protection, think Fight Club soap making scene. Fast and easy, if the > anodizing is persistant you can help it along with a Scotch brite > pad. Rinse with water well when done. I stripped my A9 headset on > the roadeo this way, I bought it NOS Black. I thought about polishing > it out with Simichrome, but th emat gray looked good with the RCP > finish. > > - > Rob Perks > http://oceanaircycles.com/ > > On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were > > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise > > nice handlebars? > > > > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish. > > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/ > > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars. > > > > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this? > > > > thanks. > > RL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?
I have used Red Devil lye in a warm water bath. Long gloves and eye protection, think Fight Club soap making scene. Fast and easy, if the anodizing is persistant you can help it along with a Scotch brite pad. Rinse with water well when done. I stripped my A9 headset on the roadeo this way, I bought it NOS Black. I thought about polishing it out with Simichrome, but th emat gray looked good with the RCP finish. - Rob Perks http://oceanaircycles.com/ On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise > nice handlebars? > > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish. > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/ > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars. > > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this? > > thanks. > RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: B17 Black Titanium
FS: B17 Black Titanium Minor use, me thinks perfect condition. Could use a bit of lube on the top. Will include an opened tiny tin of Proofide and the Brooks polishing cloth. $195 shipped usps priority to your door. https://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/BlackBrooks?authkey=Gv1sRgCNfP-96v9YuG0gE# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 titanium black and trimmed (some call it butchered)
sold On May 17, 1:41 pm, eflayer wrote: > FS: Brooks B17 titanium black and trimmed (some call it butchered) > > This a nice condition used saddle that I had trimmed by a horse saddle > leather worker here in Berkeley. I am starting to sell my extra B17's > and this is the first on the list. You can see the leather tabs tied > underneath for extra support and the saddle has a brand new tension > adjusting bolt too. > > I found it to be quite comfy and it can add a fine look to right bike. > I am willing to sell it with a 2 week money back guarantee. Just ship > it back to on your dime in the same condition you got it and I will > refund your paypal. > > $135 shipped > > photos: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/ButcheredB17# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 2009 52cm Quickbeam
Great bike for a great price. Coodios to the lucky person to snatch the beauty. On May 17, 6:34 pm, johnb wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157626621477823/ > > Better link to pictures... > > On May 17, 9:31 pm, johnb wrote: > > > > > > > > > As part of the pruning of the bicycle collection, I am selling a two- > > year old Quickbeam. Atlantis less than six weeks away... > > > Photos are http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/ > > 72157626621477823/">here. > > > Here is a link to the QB's geometry -http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html > > (Note they do not show the 52) My PBH is 78cm and this bike fits quite > > nicely with the Col de Vies on it. While I would be happy to measure > > the basics and you can ask me nitty gritty questions like what is the > > head tube angle but I may not be able to provide the answer... > > > Again, it is a stock build (you would think after last week's sale I > > would know exactly what is on the bike but no...) > > > Specs: > > > - 52cm frame > > - Sugino XD2 crank set (40x32) > > - White Industries Duo (17x19) > > - Velo-Orange hammered fenders > > - Col de Vie tires > > - No saddle > > - Grip King pedals > > - Silver brakes > > - Albatross bars/cork grips/Mt Bike brake levers > > - Nitto stem (10cm?) /seat tube > > - Mark's rack/basket > > > Price: $1200/OBO + shipping unless you are local to Baltimore/DC. > > > Bike will move to Craigslist in Baltimore on Thursday evening. > > > Bike has never been in an accident. Was ridden maybe 2K miles total > > (550 in one week in NC in 2009). As noted above, happy to answer any > > and all questions as best I can. > > > john -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Salsa Woodchipper, maybe? Very short extension and shallow drop, which make the effective reach a few cm shorter than something like a Noodle. The drops are quite flared, but I find them comfortable. I find Moustaches on a too-long bike to be insufferable. I've mounted and removed mine several times, and the most comfortable application I found was on a bike that was actually a bit too small for me. Bill On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Happy metric Tuesday to you! On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM, EricP wrote: > Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, > but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike > and rode 64 miles on them today. > > Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB > wrote: > > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > > used them they are worth a try. > > > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > > wrote: > > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both > long > > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) > so > > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Or Soma Clarence. They don't have the forward position of the H bar, but have the same back sweep. I have a pair on a non-Riv steel bike and rode 64 miles on them today. Wrapped the middle part of the bar to get a second hand position. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 17, 7:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > > > > > > > > > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > > used them they are worth a try. > > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > > wrote: > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
You might try trekking bars. They can be configured a few different ways that might help with your reach issues. Don't know what your commute is like, but I personally like flat-ish bars for gnarly urban riding. Upright, high leverage, mtb brake levers. Kent Peterson likes flat bars with the Ergon grips that have the big bar-end extensions. He puts on lots of miles. Even though the Ergons are expensive, the flat-ish bar will only cost like $15, though you probably have one lying around already. This might not be ideal if your touring needs are long road miles. Just my 2c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
i've realize now i've created the same sort of H-bars with Bullmoose bars and mtn bar-ends slid down towards the middle (and covered in cork - my submission for the cork postcard). you can also reverse the direction of the bar ends, move them, etc., so that give you more options, e.g. more narrow and forward gives you a aero tuck almost, if you want it. wider gives you a comfy shoulder rotation from flat bar. prob work better on a narrower 150cm bullmoose (earlier). but they really aren't as large as they first appear. i'm also a +1 for mustache bars. i used reverse bar-end brakes with m-bars on my Rom, but added dummy lever stubs for the "hoods" position to keep the hand positions open. best, andrew On May 17, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement > options... love em, especially with mountain brifters > > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: >> M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile >> tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never >> used them they are worth a try. >> >> On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Try Moustache Bars >>> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 >> >>> Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for >>> them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. >>> I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar >>> gives you during long rides (>30miles). >> >>> There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. >>> Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. >> >>> On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: >> just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long distance touring as well as everyday commuting. ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me >> reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - >> >>> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 2009 52cm Quickbeam
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/72157626621477823/ Better link to pictures... On May 17, 9:31 pm, johnb wrote: > As part of the pruning of the bicycle collection, I am selling a two- > year old Quickbeam. Atlantis less than six weeks away... > > Photos are http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/ > 72157626621477823/">here. > > Here is a link to the QB's geometry -http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html > (Note they do not show the 52) My PBH is 78cm and this bike fits quite > nicely with the Col de Vies on it. While I would be happy to measure > the basics and you can ask me nitty gritty questions like what is the > head tube angle but I may not be able to provide the answer... > > Again, it is a stock build (you would think after last week's sale I > would know exactly what is on the bike but no...) > > Specs: > > - 52cm frame > - Sugino XD2 crank set (40x32) > - White Industries Duo (17x19) > - Velo-Orange hammered fenders > - Col de Vie tires > - No saddle > - Grip King pedals > - Silver brakes > - Albatross bars/cork grips/Mt Bike brake levers > - Nitto stem (10cm?) /seat tube > - Mark's rack/basket > > Price: $1200/OBO + shipping unless you are local to Baltimore/DC. > > Bike will move to Craigslist in Baltimore on Thursday evening. > > Bike has never been in an accident. Was ridden maybe 2K miles total > (550 in one week in NC in 2009). As noted above, happy to answer any > and all questions as best I can. > > john -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 2009 52cm Quickbeam
As part of the pruning of the bicycle collection, I am selling a two- year old Quickbeam. Atlantis less than six weeks away... Photos are http://www.flickr.com/photos/jbusteed/sets/ 72157626621477823/">here. Here is a link to the QB's geometry - http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html (Note they do not show the 52) My PBH is 78cm and this bike fits quite nicely with the Col de Vies on it. While I would be happy to measure the basics and you can ask me nitty gritty questions like what is the head tube angle but I may not be able to provide the answer... Again, it is a stock build (you would think after last week's sale I would know exactly what is on the bike but no...) Specs: - 52cm frame - Sugino XD2 crank set (40x32) - White Industries Duo (17x19) - Velo-Orange hammered fenders - Col de Vie tires - No saddle - Grip King pedals - Silver brakes - Albatross bars/cork grips/Mt Bike brake levers - Nitto stem (10cm?) /seat tube - Mark's rack/basket Price: $1200/OBO + shipping unless you are local to Baltimore/DC. Bike will move to Craigslist in Baltimore on Thursday evening. Bike has never been in an accident. Was ridden maybe 2K miles total (550 in one week in NC in 2009). As noted above, happy to answer any and all questions as best I can. john -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?
Brilliant! I have read the over-cleaner method, but it involves heating them so didn't sound so great. This sounds perfect! Might just have to do it on some bars tomorrow! On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:50 PM, williwoods wrote: > Very easy...Draino liquid gel. takes about 30 minutes to soak and > then hose it off. You dont want to let it soak more than an hour or 2 > though. I did this to a black ano chainring and it looked factory > matte silver when I was done. I had to gently scrub it a little and > did it in 3 passes, soak, rinse/scrub, rinse, dry repeat. If you do it > right they will look factory finished. > > You wont be able to do this with the bars but for smaller parts I used > a ziplock freezer bag to soak the chainring. > > good luck > > On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were > > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise > > nice handlebars? > > > > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish. > > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/ > > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars. > > > > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this? > > > > thanks. > > RL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Titec H Bars... natural hand position with multiple hand placement options... love em, especially with mountain brifters On May 17, 7:03 pm, Frankwurst wrote: > M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile > tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never > used them they are worth a try. > > On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" > wrote: > > > > > Try Moustache Bars > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?
Very easy...Draino liquid gel. takes about 30 minutes to soak and then hose it off. You dont want to let it soak more than an hour or 2 though. I did this to a black ano chainring and it looked factory matte silver when I was done. I had to gently scrub it a little and did it in 3 passes, soak, rinse/scrub, rinse, dry repeat. If you do it right they will look factory finished. You wont be able to do this with the bars but for smaller parts I used a ziplock freezer bag to soak the chainring. good luck On May 17, 5:24 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were > discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise > nice handlebars? > > I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish. > If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/ > aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars. > > Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this? > > thanks. > RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] How to remove black anodizing from aluminum handlebars?
LL at Archival Clothing (owner of a beautiful blue Vanilla) and I were discussing a problem - - how to remove black anodizing from otherwise nice handlebars? I love Salsa Bell-Lap bars, but am not crazy about the black finish. If there is a way to remove the black and return them to a nice silver/ aluminum finish, that would be the holy grail of handlebars. Anyone have any secret methods for accomplishing this? thanks. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
M bars it seems are either love or hate. I love'em. rode a 500 mile tour on them and would do it again tomorrow. To me, if you've never used them they are worth a try. On May 17, 3:42 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" wrote: > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > > > > > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
I successfully used Bell Laps othe Monocog despite the horrendous effective tt length -- I think the effective length was 61 cm, fully 4 more than I choose for my road bikes -- simply by using an upjutter stem and making the bars quite high so that the hooks gave me more or less the position that I have on the hoods on my road bars. Not only comfortable but I found I did not really lose any power (IME, there is a certain back angle above which I lose some pedaling force). I use Noodles on the Fargo, which of course does have my preferred 56- 57 tt but which also has a much longer stem, simply by having the bars high. Short arms, me. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:42 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: > Try Moustache Bars > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 > > Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for > them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. > I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar > gives you during long rides (>30miles). > > There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. > Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. > > > On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: >> just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long >> distance touring as well as everyday commuting. >> ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me >> >> reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so >> drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
Sorry for the delay! R-15 with TourSacks mounted photos: profile - http://db.tt/ZCOUuVr from below - http://db.tt/MCAMyX6 sans SaddleSack, top attachment - http://db.tt/RtKJmzi more, with flash - http://db.tt/WQwMJTz http://db.tt/k8wRSRW Loaded, Sackville style! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
I have low-slung Albatross bars on my Kogswell that is my primary commute bike and like them a lot. Plenty of hand positions. I'm in the anti-moustache bar group. Ryan On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
Try Moustache Bars http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-moustache-bar/16-028 Folks tend to love or hate them, hence a vibrant re-sell market for them :-) Get a stem 1 or 2 cm shorter if you're going to try them. I liked them a lot, but missed the extra change of posture a drop bar gives you during long rides (>30miles). There is also On-One Midge/Soma Junebug that have shallower drops. Those are love/hate as well, so YMM(definitely)V. On May 17, 11:09 am, canali wrote: > just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long > distance touring as well as everyday commuting. > ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me > > reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so > drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 titanium black and trimmed (some call it butchered)
FS: Brooks B17 titanium black and trimmed (some call it butchered) This a nice condition used saddle that I had trimmed by a horse saddle leather worker here in Berkeley. I am starting to sell my extra B17's and this is the first on the list. You can see the leather tabs tied underneath for extra support and the saddle has a brand new tension adjusting bolt too. I found it to be quite comfy and it can add a fine look to right bike. I am willing to sell it with a 2 week money back guarantee. Just ship it back to on your dime in the same condition you got it and I will refund your paypal. $135 shipped photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/ButcheredB17# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Time to order the new paper Reader yet?
Howdy folks. Have instructions or notice to order the new RR print version been sent or posted anywhere yet? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.
Steve: Yes, a VO Polyvalent! Just the VO porteur front rack on it too. Anne and Rob: Portable Settlers is simply the Travel Edition which you can get from Amazon or if there's a local toy/board game store in your area. Otherwise: http://www.amazon.com/Settlers-of-Catan-Travel-Edition/dp/B00028X3ZO Re: saddlesack. It's actually the Small! Fully loaded, my rig was light: http://www.flickr.com/photos/judah42/5701330998/in/photostream The reason was that out of the three of us, Corey had the tent and cooking stuff in panniers and a front rack as well as tarps and so on. Thus, my personal load was light. That said — I lean towards packing smart with minimalism in mind. I based my kit off of Grant's "Kit for One Night Out" article. I didn't have a tent, sleeping pad or cooking gear with me but I can't imagine, having seen what those items were like in size, having to go bigger than a Medium or Large Saddlesack. If you attach the pad, tent or sleeping bag to the top of the bag behind you, as I did, or on a small front rack, I still imagine that a Medium or Large Saddlesack is just fine. My gear inside the small saddlesack was plenty for an overnighter. I had on some Outlier pants, an Icebreaker mid-weight LS top with a Rapha jersey on top of that for the ride. In the bag, a gilet, a Patagonia LS wool baselayer, a Patagonia down sweater (which is really a down jacket that compresses to the size of a grapefruit but is oh so toasty), Smartwool hiking socks for camp/sleeping, toothbrush/ toothpaste, mess kit, bandana, full toolkit (made up of small smart bits) and spare bungies and ziploc baggies. I could have used some room to tote food perhaps and I think a folded mussette bag would work well near the end of a ride to pick up food to carry on my back or small runs. I think obviously you can go both ways — I've read and learnt from the kit that Anne's posted in the archives and from others so you can carry more for sure. It depends if you go solo or with a group. With a group, you can distribute the load a bit more. Looks like this weekend we're going to China Camp and I think I'll be trying some new things... will report back. Cheers! Naz. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] need ideas for versatile touring/commuting bars other than rando/drops
just looking to experiement with a bar that will be good for both long distance touring as well as everyday commuting. ...the albatross seems a bit wide for me reason: my bike is a tad long (i should be on a 51 vs 53 atlantis) so drops are a bit of a reach with 80-90cm stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts I am selling from Bombadil
I have had alot of quetions in regards to pics. here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157625721858877/ The fenders are sold everything else is available. On May 16, 4:41 pm, williwoods wrote: > Oops I also forgot to list the BB. Its an Interloc Racing BB. 68x? $20 > > worked perfectly with the cranks on my Riv. Once I start disassembling > the bike this weekend I will post what the actual measurements are on > the BB. > > Will > > On May 16, 4:22 pm, williwoods wrote: > > > > > Here is what is still available: > > > Cages: Nitto R and Electra/Nitto knockoff cage $50 for Nitto $15 for > > Electra > > Front Der: Shimano Ultegra $20 > > Cranks: Sugino XD2 triple 175mm 24/39/43 I also have a Sugino 40, > > never got the rings I really wanted easy fix. $75 > > > and a few other items I was holding on to but decided to pass along. > > > Headset: Cane Creek Classic 100 1" $70 > > Saddle: Brooks B-17 Special $90 > > Rear Der: Shimano Ultegra High normal $75 > > Pedals: Suntour Superbe Pro. $55 > > Toe Clips: MKS L Half clips with leather. $15 > > Fenders: VO Zeppelin 55mm $25 > > > On May 13, 3:08 pm, williwoods wrote: > > > > Stem, Bars and shifters are sold. > > > > waiting to hear back about the wheels from RJM > > > > On May 13, 3:06 pm, williwoods wrote: > > > > > You can have the wheels, all the other parts are sold that you were > > > > after. > > > > > On May 13, 12:50 pm, RJM wrote: > > > > > > I will take the wheels, bar, shifters and thumbies. > > > > > > On May 13, 2:01 pm, williwoods wrote: > > > > > > > Cages: Nitto R and Electra/Nitto knockoff cage $50 for Nitto $15 for > > > > > > Electra > > > > > > Stem: Specialized/Nitto Dirt Drop $20 > > > > > > Bars: Sycip Singles Bar $25 > > > > > > Shifters: Shimano 8 speed and Paul mounts mounted upside down. $80 > > > > > > (recently switched to silver mounts) > > > > > > Brakes: Shimano XT High Profile and VO Hangers $30 > > > > > > Front Der: Shimano Ultegra $20 > > > > > > Cranks: Sugino XD2 triple 175mm 24/39/43 I also have a Sugino 40, > > > > > > never got the rings I really wanted easy fix. $75 > > > > > > Wheels: 650B Synergy laced to LX hubs, built by Rich. $220 > > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157625721858877/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hello folks
Scotty: That's a nice mix of bikes you'll have. The first Rivendell I ever saw was my own Atlantis when I took it out of the shipping box. I had purchased stuff from them and been a member for a long time. Their whole approach to cycling was consistent with mine and the details they freely share take a lot of the mystery out of things. You're gonna love your new bike. dougP On May 16, 6:36 am, Mike wrote: > Congrats on the purchase of the Hilsen. I doubt you'll be > disappointed. Between the LHT and Hilsen you'll be covered for all > your country bike needs, loaded and unloaded. Definitely post pictures > when you get the bike. > > --mike > > On May 15, 4:10 pm, Scotty wrote: > > > > > I just thought I would introduce myself. Im Scot and I live in Holiday > > Florida. 3 weeks ago I ordered a new A Homer Hilsen complete bike from > > Rivendell. They told me it would take 8 weeks for them to get the > > frame and another 2 weeks for them to build it up. I am very excited > > to get and ride my bike. I have been drooling over the Rivbike website > > for a few years now and I came into the opportunity to get one and > > took it. It was a little bit of a gamble as I have not actually seen > > one in person. I am going solely on research and reputation. I have > > seen and ridden a Grant designed Bridgestone and I am fully confident > > in his work and Keven was very helpfull in my parts selection and > > sizing. > > > I am also a member of the Surly Owners Group and i own and ride a > > Surly Long Haul Trucker. I have put allot of miles on my Surly and > > have also lost over 70 pounds riding it so My Riv is a bit of a reward > > for reaching a short term fitness goal and will hopefully keep me > > motivated to reach my long term goals of further weight loss and > > fitness as well as replacing my cars whenever possible. > > I have already gotten some good info from your group here and have > > some more reading to do. If there are any other Tampa Bay area > > Rivendell owners on here please say hi.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: silver shifter washers
Jason: I did the same thing as you. IIRC you can put the "tab stop" (?) on the pod side, away from the lever, in a couple of the 4 possible positions. I happened to have a pair of the ones without the tab that I used, but as said above, there are about a billion of those washers out there. FWIW, I installed the pods with the D-rings on the inside per instruction. Next time I re-cable I'm changing them to the outside so I can more easily cinch down the D-rings on the fly. I still haven't discovered the magic combination of washers to prevent the D-rings from gradually loosening up. They're supposed to be on the inside for protection so there is a good reason. dougP On May 17, 8:23 am, MichaelH wrote: > I would have sworn that my shifters came with both styles. In any > case I would expect any good bike shop, or Riv, has a pair of these in > its spare parts drawer, that not that rare since they were on > virtually every road bike, with bar ends, sold for many decades. > There's more than one size floating around out there and shops that > service older bikes are sure to end up with them. > > michael > > On May 17, 10:20 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > > > I should've read the posts regarding this before I purchased SIlver > > downtube shifters to use with my Shimano bar end shifter pods. > > As many of you know the shifters come with a round washer with a > > square hole that has a little tab on it that acts as a shifter stop > > when mounted on a downtube boss. > > But..it seems nobody sells the round washers with the square hole > > WITHOUT the tab. > > I could grind it down, but does anyone know how to get the correct > > washers without purchasing the bar end shifters? > > thanks > > Jason- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
Running 700x32 Supremes on the Quickbeam. No flats and minimal wear after 2700 mi; not bad, I'd say. I'm sure there are more supple tires out there. But, the Supremes are tough enough and supple enough for my commuting needs. On May 17, 9:15 am, Peter Pesce wrote: > Tire-a-holic here too! > I already have 3 sets of tires for my 10-month-old Sam (obviously, none are > anywhere close to worn out!) > I picked up a set of 700x35 Kojaks and really like them, though they run > small and I'm not yet sure how durable they will be. > My Pasela's have been utterly unfazed by the garbage-strewn roads I ride. > We'll see how the Kojaks hold up. > > -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
I was planning on a Simpleone and then started talking to a custom builder and for a few reason decided to go that direction. Going to be a similar style bike- single speed, room for comfy tires and fenders, canti posts. Pretty cool to pick out the tubes, lugs, drop outs, etc. A first for me. Here is my build. A mix of new and old bits. Headset: chris king 1’ threaded Seatpost: Nitto Humble Seat Post Stem: Nitto Technomic Handlebars: Nitto North Road Saddle: Brooks B17 Anitque Brown Brake levers: Shimano XTR Brakes: shimano xt v-brakes Cranks: white industries eno Bottom Bracket: phil wood Wheels: phil wood/ mavic open pro Freewheel: white industries Tires: roly poly 700x 28 Pedals: MKS Touring Cant wait to see all the SO's. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
Tire-a-holic here too! I already have 3 sets of tires for my 10-month-old Sam (obviously, none are anywhere close to worn out!) I picked up a set of 700x35 Kojaks and really like them, though they run small and I'm not yet sure how durable they will be. My Pasela's have been utterly unfazed by the garbage-strewn roads I ride. We'll see how the Kojaks hold up. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First S24O to Sam P. Taylor with photos.
I carried everything for an S24O in a medium SS and a front trunck sack last year. This didn't include a tent but I definitely had everything that I needed. I realize what one needs can vary depending on weather, comfort needs, food, etc... Still, I would think that a Large SS could do the job. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4945981066/in/set-72157613195465589 And even more minimal load was used on my first S24O back in 2007: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/1074699762/in/set-72157615006576577 And to the original poster, great pictures. Thanks for posting. I camped out at Samuel P. Taylor many times when in Boyscouts and a couple of times in the 80s when I went out there with friends and a ton of beer. When I started cycling in the 90s I would often ride the bike path through there but never had a desire to bike camp, but now... if I was still in SF I'm sure I'd make it an S24O destination along with Pt Reyes and especially Pantoll. Pantoll seems like a really great destination for a weekday S240 with easy access to Peet's in Mill Valley for coffee in the morning. Maybe even a little excursion up RR Grade before heading to Peet's. I may have to go bike camping tomorrow night as the weather in PDX is supposed to be great. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
> Good thing they wear out, eh? No kidding but not quickly given that they're Schwalbes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > You can use a fixed cog on a fw hub as long as you don't skip stop > with it. I've done many cheap old 10 sp conversions with 65" to 70" > gear by simply redishing the rear wheel and installing a fixed cog > instead of the cluster; no lockring or locktite, just grease and > torque. > I forgot to add that, OTOH, if you have a choice, Ron is perfectly right -- no downside except a bit of cost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
You can use a fixed cog on a fw hub as long as you don't skip stop with it. I've done many cheap old 10 sp conversions with 65" to 70" gear by simply redishing the rear wheel and installing a fixed cog instead of the cluster; no lockring or locktite, just grease and torque. My brother was riding fast down a steep hill with such a conversion, skipping merrily until the cog started spinning off backward; at which point he pedaled really fast to get it screwed on again. But if you avoid this -- use brakes -- you will be fine. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Ron MH wrote: > Andrew, sounds like a good set up. I'd make one change, though. > Instead of a free/free rear hub, I'd go for either free/fixed or fixed/ > fixed. The reason is, you can always put a freewheel on a fixed hub > but you can never put a fixed cog on a freewheel hub. You limit your > options by going free/free; you leave your options completely open > with fixed/fixed. Maybe you don't want to try fixed gear now, but you > may some day. I stared with a fixed/free setup and usually rode with > the freewheel side. Now I'd say 80% of my miles are on the fixed gear > side; it's a great way to go. > > Good luck with your mad plotting! ;-) > > Ron > > On May 13, 2:27 pm, andrew hill wrote: >> Ok.. I'm sure some of you can relate. >> >> You think.. nice! A new Rivendell frame for ~ $1K. >> >> I can build a less-expensive bike than what I've already got, and it's not >> that bad... feels totally justifiable. And this one is a single speed - how >> much will it cost even with a couple of nice parts, without all that >> expensive shifter/derailleur nonsense... >> >> And then you start choosing parts. >> >> Here is my "simple" build list, after I got done dreaming and plotting. >> Sadly, only a couple of these things were in my parts bin, so I managed to >> build my most spendy Rivendell yet. : / >> >> 58cm SimpleOne >> >> Interface: >> -- >> Nitto Randonneur bars (45cm) >> Newbaums Orange >> Dirt drop stem (10cm) >> Brooks Special, Honey >> Nitto S-84 seatpost >> White Industries urban platform / Bruce Gordon stainless half clips. >> >> Wheelset >> --- >> Phil Wood high-flange free/free hubset, 32h, SLR drilled >> Velocity Fusion rims, double butted DT Swiss (laced radial front / 3-cross >> rear), brass nipples. >> Schwalbe Marathon Racer 700c x 35 >> >> Drivetrain >> --- >> White Industries Ti BB (113mm) >> White Industries ENO Crank (170mm) silver >> White Industries Dos ENO 16/19t >> White Industries Double chainring, 38/35t >> 3/32 single-speed chain >> Sugino Crank Fixing Bolts (8mm) >> >> Stoptrain >> --- >> Sram S500 road levers >> Jagwire brake cables >> Tektro CR720 cantilevers >> >> Aside from rim-tape and tubes, did I miss anything? >> >> I've got bottle cages, beeswax, corks, and twine, and the specific tools for >> those cranks and bb. The bar wrap will be shellacked down from orange to >> something approaching the honey of the saddle. >> >> Might put on an extra R-15 rack that I've got, or a sturdier and sleeker >> pannier rack if i can find one. >> Thinking about a 21t freewheel for the other side, too, or a 14t... >> >> Comon - who else has been madly plotting a SimpleOne or not-so-SimpleOne? >> >> Best, >> Andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 08:31 -0700, Mike wrote: > This has been an informative thread. I really like my 700x35 Supremes. > Tempted to try the 40s, but they're a tad expensive. I also keep > threatening to try Kojacks. I've come to realize that not only am I a > bag-o-holic but I'm also a tire-o-holic. Still, perhaps just one more > set of tires... one more pair and I'll never want for more tires ever > again... well, there are those Duremes... Good thing they wear out, eh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
This has been an informative thread. I really like my 700x35 Supremes. Tempted to try the 40s, but they're a tad expensive. I also keep threatening to try Kojacks. I've come to realize that not only am I a bag-o-holic but I'm also a tire-o-holic. Still, perhaps just one more set of tires... one more pair and I'll never want for more tires ever again... well, there are those Duremes... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: silver shifter washers
I would have sworn that my shifters came with both styles. In any case I would expect any good bike shop, or Riv, has a pair of these in its spare parts drawer, that not that rare since they were on virtually every road bike, with bar ends, sold for many decades. There's more than one size floating around out there and shops that service older bikes are sure to end up with them. michael On May 17, 10:20 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > I should've read the posts regarding this before I purchased SIlver > downtube shifters to use with my Shimano bar end shifter pods. > As many of you know the shifters come with a round washer with a > square hole that has a little tab on it that acts as a shifter stop > when mounted on a downtube boss. > But..it seems nobody sells the round washers with the square hole > WITHOUT the tab. > I could grind it down, but does anyone know how to get the correct > washers without purchasing the bar end shifters? > thanks > Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:02 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I think the issue was how well Charlie's bike would handle with more > than a small front load. Rivs, in my experience, don't like more than, > say, 10 lb in front -- but that is my experience with very roady > customs plus the Sam Hill. My Saluki likes the Berthoud GB2886 (the fancy version of the same size bag as the GB28) just fine. I like the way the bike rides with the bag more than without it. Of course, I don't carry 10 lb in it, either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
I think the issue was how well Charlie's bike would handle with more than a small front load. Rivs, in my experience, don't like more than, say, 10 lb in front -- but that is my experience with very roady customs plus the Sam Hill. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 07:35 -0700, charlie wrote: >> I figure I'm not a pizza delivery guy so I won't need a "front >> loader"..a rear saddle bag makes more sense in my rainy climate >> plus I need an excuse to get off my bike a stretch every now and then. >> My clone Atlantis seems to able to take a lighter front load also and >> when I do need something from a front bag when riding (thinking hard >> now) it will usually be light and or small. I think the whole giant >> front bag thing is overrated IMHO. > > How big does a bag have to be to qualify as "giant"? Would you consider > a bag like the Berthoud GB28 "giant"? (Volume : 12L, Height: 270mm, > Width without pockets: 270mm, Depth without front pocket: 145mm) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/5027013765/in/set-72157603355855778/ > > This is a far cry from "pizza deliver guy" territory, and is a fine > example of a large front handlebar bag. > > There's enough room for an O2 Rainshield rain jacket and eye glasses > (plus tools, tubes, small camera, lunch, wallet and so on) and if I do > have to take off my sun glasses or put on the rain jacket, I don't have > to actually park the bike to do it; just stopping with both feet on the > ground is enough. > > I used to think the "get off every now and then" thing made sense, too, > until one time I did a century where it alternated between sprinkling, > clearing up, darking and sprinkling again every five or ten miles all > day long, and parking the bike and walking around to the back of the > bike to change glasses simply drove me nuts. > > Of course, what really tore it was when I got a flat around 65 miles in, > and couldn't get the tube to fit. I tried it every which way, and it > was just plain too small. And yet, I could clearly see the "-7 x 1 1/4 > inch" written on the tube (the first letter was just a blur). It took > several minutes before I realized, the tube was a 17 x 1 1/4" tube from > my Moulton... > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 07:35 -0700, charlie wrote: > I figure I'm not a pizza delivery guy so I won't need a "front > loader"..a rear saddle bag makes more sense in my rainy climate > plus I need an excuse to get off my bike a stretch every now and then. > My clone Atlantis seems to able to take a lighter front load also and > when I do need something from a front bag when riding (thinking hard > now) it will usually be light and or small. I think the whole giant > front bag thing is overrated IMHO. How big does a bag have to be to qualify as "giant"? Would you consider a bag like the Berthoud GB28 "giant"? (Volume : 12L, Height: 270mm, Width without pockets: 270mm, Depth without front pocket: 145mm) http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/5027013765/in/set-72157603355855778/ This is a far cry from "pizza deliver guy" territory, and is a fine example of a large front handlebar bag. There's enough room for an O2 Rainshield rain jacket and eye glasses (plus tools, tubes, small camera, lunch, wallet and so on) and if I do have to take off my sun glasses or put on the rain jacket, I don't have to actually park the bike to do it; just stopping with both feet on the ground is enough. I used to think the "get off every now and then" thing made sense, too, until one time I did a century where it alternated between sprinkling, clearing up, darking and sprinkling again every five or ten miles all day long, and parking the bike and walking around to the back of the bike to change glasses simply drove me nuts. Of course, what really tore it was when I got a flat around 65 miles in, and couldn't get the tube to fit. I tried it every which way, and it was just plain too small. And yet, I could clearly see the "-7 x 1 1/4 inch" written on the tube (the first letter was just a blur). It took several minutes before I realized, the tube was a 17 x 1 1/4" tube from my Moulton... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:35 AM, charlie wrote: > I figure I'm not a pizza delivery guy so I won't need a "front > loader"..a rear saddle bag makes more sense in my rainy climate > plus I need an excuse to get off my bike a stretch every now and then. > My clone Atlantis seems to able to take a lighter front load also and > when I do need something from a front bag when riding (thinking hard > now) it will usually be light and or small. I think the whole giant > front bag thing is overrated IMHO. L'allure francaise ... I bought my front loading Herse to carry a dog -- hope to get a big front porteur rack shortly -- otherwise, I am quite happy with rear loading. I have gone back and forth between panniers and large saddlebags for 20 years but have ended up with the former because of their greater flexibility and the ease of swapping out large for smaller panniers (or none at all, occasionally). Now that you mention it, the porteur rack ought to be great for pizzas (as long as the dog isn't on the front, too). I never did figure out how to carry a pizza in even a large pannier, unless it was frozen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
I figure I'm not a pizza delivery guy so I won't need a "front loader"..a rear saddle bag makes more sense in my rainy climate plus I need an excuse to get off my bike a stretch every now and then. My clone Atlantis seems to able to take a lighter front load also and when I do need something from a front bag when riding (thinking hard now) it will usually be light and or small. I think the whole giant front bag thing is overrated IMHO. On May 17, 12:46 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > All my Rivs have been happier with rear loads, and have handled rear > loads very well. #3, the green Curt '03 now has a small front rack to > support a medium front bag and I've had almost 10 lb total on the > front, but that's about the limit before the handling gets unpleasant. > OTOH, I've carried almost 40 lb in the rear with no more than a bit of > tail wagging. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Jeffrey wrote: > > Patrick - > > Thanks for the heads up about the front loading - I hadn't considered > > that and am not married to a front bag. I'll consider a large saddle > > bag. I'm starting with the Alba bar 'cuz I have one here, and will try > > a Mustache and then drop if needed. I am also considering the S-A 3XS > > (fixed) and will post when I've got and ridden either one. So many > > excellent choices! Suggestions welcome - new to this stuff, really. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] silver shifter washers
I should've read the posts regarding this before I purchased SIlver downtube shifters to use with my Shimano bar end shifter pods. As many of you know the shifters come with a round washer with a square hole that has a little tab on it that acts as a shifter stop when mounted on a downtube boss. But..it seems nobody sells the round washers with the square hole WITHOUT the tab. I could grind it down, but does anyone know how to get the correct washers without purchasing the bar end shifters? thanks Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy
To all who responded to original question of Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy, thank you. Very helpful. -- Forrest On May 16, 6:25 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 16, 5:49 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > > > Interesting. That hasn't been my experience with the Grifo XS at all. > > I like the XS, especially the tubular (although I do get some tread > peeling)! i've done a bunch of cyclocross racing on it, and it > probably is preferable on "trails" to a slick. but "dirt roads" mean > something different to me than trails, and I don't need tread there. > and i still don't recommend putting a file tread with side knobs (or > any tire with side knobs) on the limit on pavement - with nothing to > bite into, it can easily skip its way out from under you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Supreme Input please
Thanks all. A set of 40's coming my way. Should mount them on the A719 / White MI5 this weekend. For my use sluggishness is relative. The 47's with my bags packed for work don't make for speed, I look at it as an easy workout. I am sluggish. Thanks Andrew, I'll probably pick up some 35's down the road. Mitch San Luis Obispo, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
All my Rivs have been happier with rear loads, and have handled rear loads very well. #3, the green Curt '03 now has a small front rack to support a medium front bag and I've had almost 10 lb total on the front, but that's about the limit before the handling gets unpleasant. OTOH, I've carried almost 40 lb in the rear with no more than a bit of tail wagging. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Jeffrey wrote: > Patrick - > Thanks for the heads up about the front loading - I hadn't considered > that and am not married to a front bag. I'll consider a large saddle > bag. I'm starting with the Alba bar 'cuz I have one here, and will try > a Mustache and then drop if needed. I am also considering the S-A 3XS > (fixed) and will post when I've got and ridden either one. So many > excellent choices! Suggestions welcome - new to this stuff, really. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
