[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is simply latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely waterproof. /and yes, use fenders unless you're racing. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9Y_GKwyjbrkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:41:39 AM UTC-4, Ablejack wrote: Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is simply latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely waterproof. /and yes, use fenders unless you're racing. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dNZj4fRq7vkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SS Coupled Saluki in Portland-East
Bilenky Bicycles (phila.) can install SS couplers for your Riv if you want. /my Saluki is nicer anyway! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:29:03 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oh my, someone buy this so I can live vicariously through you... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/2923936121.html No affiliation, etc.. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xXYEciQzcf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I'd go with a (lugged) Boulder Bike Randonneur for a comfortable and speedy off the rack bike. But I just told a friend to look into the Sam (looking for an all-rounder/S24O bike) and BOOM, he ordered one! Also the pretty blue Sam w/ cream headtube is currently at a pre-order discount (same price as the green). It will go up to new price when the first 45 or so are sold. /Saluki rider. (48yo) Fast enough for me! On Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:13:21 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/G5LLbg4HsCYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
'nother vote for the Grand Bois Lierre. My brother rides and loves them on his randonneuse- he used to ride Pari-motos too. But if you can fit Rumpkins (a fat 40), you probably can fit Hetres (a slim 42) as well. /I ride clunky old (40mm) Schwalbe Marathon- not sexy, not fast, not fixing flats. They feel like rocks (thick sidewalls and kevlar belted) so if I want speed, I have to pedal faster! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:11:42 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F6nQSER2ylQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Grilver AHH
Beauty. I love the color. Smart build too. /you mentioned it was dirty - my bikes are only that clean once a year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h3twtEnxffYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
Riv has made (still makes) bikes that shorter people can ride. In addition to wheel size options, the frame layout allows shorter people to ride a larger frame than they normally might otherwise. In the real world 50 cm is the largest frame I can ride (5'-6 when I stand up straight and tall, less otherwise) with my 29 inseam. With 700 size wheels, a 50 cm frame doesn't feel comfortable or handle great. I know, I had and sold a stream of them trying to get a good fit. My first Riv was a Rambouillet in a size 52 with 26 wheels. Fits like a glove. Next came a 50 CM Saluki (650B) that feels great too. The wheel size allows the frame geometry to be right. Finally, a 54 cm Road Std that allows my stand over from a relaxed seat tube and low bottom bracket location (as noted by GP in RR#3) and made even lower with a conversion by me to 650B. So, enough choice for me, anyway. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:46 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Generally most of my bikes range in the 51 cm range, that is where they are comfy to me. Riv sizing seems to be different though. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:22:35 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote: but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
I have 1,592 flat free miles on my 1st set of P-Ms so far. They won't be a high mileage tire, but they are fun to ride. I didn't see a mention yet, but Maxy Fasty (33.4 mm or so) tires are a plausible alternative. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:00 PM, RonaTD teddur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 27, 11:49 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I love, love the Pari-motos - but they're not an everyday tire. Light as a feather, and built that way too. I'm only one data point, but I've done a solo 600k, a 400k brevet, and a whole lot of daily commuting on a pair of Pari Motos and I've had only one flat and still have lots of tread left. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
Interesting. My short daughter would agree with you, but at only 6' 1 I can no longer buy a new Atlantis in the size, 64, which Riv's own charts recommend. I have a short friend with a very tall, 6'8 son. Whenever he is asked if he plays basketball he says, No, do you play miniature golf? michael On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:22:35 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jBMFhLQ0VnAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cutting back on the clutter
Yeah, it's pretty easy to go overboard on that stuff. Not that there's anything wrong with it--if you like it, ride it! It does look cool in a tweed and spats sorta way. But for me, when I put metal fenders witha leather mud flap and leather bar wrap with twine on my Saluki, it seemed a bit too precious, and uncomfortably began to look a little like a fetish object to me so I went back to plastic fenders and Fizik bar tape (which I like better than the leather anyway) And I hate having a bar bag cover the head badge and masked head tube! Them's my favorite parts of the bike, aesthetically speaking...still, I use one when I need the capacity. Steve On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote: Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and more fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hn5cnYBWy8QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I'm short - just 5 ft and I ride a Betty Foy. You can't frames for sale because I can't ever imagine selling mine and I imagine others can't either. These are forever bikes. On Mar 27, 8:22 pm, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt practically identical. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires. This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front rack and large rear. I have done two centuries on it. I also have a Romulus. The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley). Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires. My experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional material. Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE. The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true. I just wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think you'll find it very similar to what you already have. D.G. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pE2yD4JVyf8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I'm 5'3 and I ride a 47 cm Atlantis. Most small frames have very steep seat tubes. Rivendell is the only company I'm aware of that has the same seat tube angles on their smallest frames as on the large sizes. By the way -- I'm sorry to see so much emphasis recently on 650 B wheels. 26 wheels are a better fit for small riders, and tall riders already have 700 C. It would be better to develop wheel sizes smaller than 26 or larger than 700c -- that would enable better designs for short and tall people. Just my 2 cents. Lisa On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:22:35 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_zueS9zgvHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Bleriot
What a deal. somebody gonna be happy when they get this. On Mar 27, 7:06 pm, Kris kkjellqu...@gmail.com wrote: My Bleriot is just not getting ridden enough and the poor guy is hanging on a hook all day. I am the original owner and purchased directly from QBP when I worked at a shop. I am only selling to finance the purchase of a Salsa Fargo. I am the original owner and it's in great condition. It has the usual nicks but no significant scratches. The Honjo fenders have some dings, but still look great! There's some wear on the head badge as well. Build; 59 cm Bleriot frame and fork Shimano 600 headset Nitto Randonneur bar Nitto Technomic 110 stem Shimano R600 50/34 cranks Shimano Ultegra FD Shimano 105 RD Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters Tektro R556 side pull calipers Cane Creek brake levers Shimano LX/Velocity Synergy wheel set Nifty Swifty Tires Honjo Fenders Campagnolo Athena seatpost No pedals, saddle or cassette (which was used on my main road bike) $1300 + shipping - pics available for those interested. I'm in Asheville, NC if someone local is interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
I wasn't, actually. Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:14:08 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: UV??!! Saddles???!!! You are kidding, right? Patrick Moore, tanning his skin at 5,000+ feet in ABQ, NM. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: That's a good point, Jim. I'm not sure many people consider the amount of UV a bike that is used for daily transportation gets. I know I don't, or didn't, until now. If you lock your bike up outside a lot (perhaps less an issue for Riv owners) not only the saddle, but the tires, bar tape, brake hoods and cable housings get a pretty good UV bath. Fenders help the tires a bit, I guess. I'm sure UV is no good for leather, so any cover would help some. I use my aardvark cover for theft deterrence and rain defense. Guess I'm getting UV defense too in the bargain. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:15:50 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Do any of these covers provide UV protection? Is UV an issue for a leather saddle?, i think it would be, it is for car interiors. We are at 5600 feet here, and the sun blazes just about every day in the summer. Where my bike is parked during the workday gets a lot of sun, i'm definitely concerned about this as summer approaches. Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:44:16 AM UTC-6, Mike On A Bike wrote: I have used the Carradice B17 covers that Peter White sells for about two years now. They have held up really well to a lot of riding, are very waterproof, and I expect them to last a while longer-- very high quality of construction. Can't discern any damage to my saddles from either rain or butt sweat after lots of exposure to both. They're black and drab, but that may help from the anti-theft angle. On Mar 27, 1:34 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0xGEK9ifiLUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DU9JQdSG9PUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SS Coupled Saluki in Portland-East
I've seen this bike before ... can't remember where though, Too big for me but it's a beauty. I wish my Saluki had canti studs. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:29:03 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oh my, someone buy this so I can live vicariously through you... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/2923936121.html No affiliation, etc.. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_cWlGzz2rBoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
Smallish guyumm, i mean, average guy, chiming in here. I'm 5'6 w/ 79 PBH and have a 50cm AHH on the way. For some reason, I'm elated that Keven put me on a 50cm instead of a 47cm frame (he was actually considering a 52cm!) ...makes me feel taller than I really am..haha! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:22:35 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X1QgZFEBT2MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
Soma Xpress - Riv sells them - are not sluggish and are very durable. Not as plush as the Grand Bois, mind you, but decent tires nonetheless. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11:42 AM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/p0p27RmsfO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Well I just ran an experiment for you. I had an Aardvark cover over the B17 on my Quickbeam, with a plastic bag over the cover as an extra layer. I guess the wind blew the bag off at some point during the afternoon. The bike has been out in the rain for hours. The Aardvark cover is soaked, but underneath, the saddle is dry. I won't make a habit of relying soley on the Aardvark though. I generally like to use a shower cap or plastic bag as a final external layer. Lee SF, CA On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Randi jo fab (riv no carries them) cover to ride on, keep on, and look oh so good On Mar 27, 2:15 pm, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote: ryan what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid SCB-2? mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worriedhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f721202e9923113cb5st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH 56, 57 compare contrast?
Given my choice between 650b or 700c I'd always go with the 650b and I don't think 1 cm either way frame size means squat. I just like 650b. Can't speak about the AHH but I've had more than one bike with each wheel size and 650b wins hands down everytime for me. Just as fast IMO and are smooth as butta. I've yet to find a 700c tire that trips my trigger like 650b tires do, but that's just me. On Mar 23, 7:00 pm, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: The A. Homer Hilsen is available in 56 and 58 for 650b wheels, and in 57 and 59 for 700c wheels. So some sizes of folks would fit both 650b and 700c AHHs. I would like to know AHHs with the different wheel sizes in this overlap region compare. Can some of you all please help me out with that? Anybody make that decision? If yes, picked which and why? How's it playing out? etc. thnks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] No Longer In the Dark
Bags and lights spoken for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
Sean, I have a 56 Hillborne, single top tube, that I have had for nearly 3 years. For the first 2 years it was set up with a touring wheelset, fenders, kickstand, front and rear nitto racks to hold small and large trunksacks. Before buying the Hillborne, I test rode a Novara Randonee and a Cannondale T1. Both rode like touring bikes, which is what I expected. I decided to buy the Hillborne without ever riding it, or seeing it. The Hillborne feels much sportier than either of the touring models I tried. Early last spring I made the mistake of weighing my Hillborne. Without bags it weighed close to 30 pounds. I decided to try to make it a slimmer, go faster bike. I removed the fenders, kickstand, and racks. Mounted lighter 32 tires instead of the heavier 35s I had been using. I think it dropped down to around 25 pounds, and maybe I felt just a little faster. Within a few weeks I had reinstalled the fenders and the kickstand. The biggest change in speed was a change in wheelset. I moved the touring wheelset to a Hunqapillar last May and got Ultegra hubs laced to Open Pro rims for my Hillborne. This made a noticeable difference. I also have since added 35 Marathon Supremes. My Hillborne is my gofast bike, though the only racing I do is with my shadow. Based on the other bikes you have, it sounds like a Hilsen, or possibly even a Roadeo, could be considered. Good luck in your search. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Freddie Hoffman's HANDLEBARS
Trying to remember what handlebars Fredie used . I do remember they were WALD brand. But do not recall the model number, that was published in READER # 7 ? Thanks for any help Charlie P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s9zCR7CU84AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I had a 56 Sam STT and for me it was definitely more of a country bike than a go fast-ish bike. Started with roly-polys and Noodles but the tires just felt too narrow. Switched to Marathons then threw in the towel. I ended up getting a Ram as the go fast-ish and saving the pennies for the AHH as a country bike. The San Marcos seems like a good option. It is not a touring bike but can take racks and carry a small-ish load. Designed for 32-35mm tires. Lighter tubing than the Sam or AHH so will probably feel more responsive. Good luck in the search. Dan On Mar 25, 4:13 pm, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Moderators
Hi Luke. There have been a lot of issues with Google Groups in general lately. You should read the sticky Another Great Googly Moogly Issue posted by the list moderator at the top of the RBW Google Groups page (viewable via the Google Groups interface). That explains things. Best, Lee SF, CA On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Luke in Pasadena ilu...@gmail.com wrote: Everytime I post it takes days for it to show/be approved. What's the delay? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Grilver AHH
Joe thanks! Grilver is Riv's description of the color. It is a combination of grey silver. They had a blog post (last year some time?) about this color being tested on a Sam IIRC. I had asked for green and got this by accident. There is no gree in it that I am aware of. I too am no big fan of the stock blue either (no offense to anyone). On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:45:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: What *is* the actual color? You're calling it grilver, but I don't see any green it. Is that just a humorous reference to the fact you ordered green but got silver? I'm asking because, - after selling my slightly too big Homer - I'm seriously considering getting one in the right size, and I *love *the color of yours. I don't like the stock blue so much. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:49:56 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: Darn, I meant enemy On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:48:35 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: Yeah, truth be told at first, I was a bit miffed that it wasn't exactly as I had ordered it. Then I realized that perfect is the enemey of good enough and moved on. It is by far, my favorite bike and I could not be happier with how it turned out. Lesson learned,. Lighten up! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:32:04 PM UTC-4, Roger wrote: Riv is so on a roll with colors in the last couple of years. The Roadeo/Hunqa grey with red or orange, the last two Hillborne's, Simpleone, and now this accidental choice. I find very often that when I relax my grip a bit that serendipity will trickle in. And that has made all the difference. On Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:25:27 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: I got this frame about a year ago and built up with the following parts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/76454470@N05/ 61cm AHH Nitto Noodles 46cm Nitto Lugged Stem 100mm Brooks Imperial Nitto 65 Seat post Paul Racer Brakes Electra Tincino Crank w. VO 46/30 rings Honjo La Paeon fenders Mavic Open Pros w/ Ultegra hubs (32 spoke) XT rear derailer Campagnolo front derailer Acorn front rear bags Marks Rack (It is actually Mark's used rack! He sold me an extra he had.) Rides great. It is a little dirty in these pics but that is not a bad thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K5k3ErRKmDsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Grilver AHH
Oh I see..I got green out of gr. Well now I know to ask for Brian Campbell's grilver if I go this route. I tell ya, brother, I hadn't intended to spend that much on another frame this year, but my 50th birthday is in May. Hmmm.. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:49:33 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: Joe thanks! Grilver is Riv's description of the color. It is a combination of grey silver. They had a blog post (last year some time?) about this color being tested on a Sam IIRC. I had asked for green and got this by accident. There is no gree in it that I am aware of. I too am no big fan of the stock blue either (no offense to anyone). On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:45:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: What *is* the actual color? You're calling it grilver, but I don't see any green it. Is that just a humorous reference to the fact you ordered green but got silver? I'm asking because, - after selling my slightly too big Homer - I'm seriously considering getting one in the right size, and I *love *the color of yours. I don't like the stock blue so much. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:49:56 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: Darn, I meant enemy On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:48:35 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: Yeah, truth be told at first, I was a bit miffed that it wasn't exactly as I had ordered it. Then I realized that perfect is the enemey of good enough and moved on. It is by far, my favorite bike and I could not be happier with how it turned out. Lesson learned,. Lighten up! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:32:04 PM UTC-4, Roger wrote: Riv is so on a roll with colors in the last couple of years. The Roadeo/Hunqa grey with red or orange, the last two Hillborne's, Simpleone, and now this accidental choice. I find very often that when I relax my grip a bit that serendipity will trickle in. And that has made all the difference. On Saturday, March 24, 2012 2:25:27 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: I got this frame about a year ago and built up with the following parts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/76454470@N05/ 61cm AHH Nitto Noodles 46cm Nitto Lugged Stem 100mm Brooks Imperial Nitto 65 Seat post Paul Racer Brakes Electra Tincino Crank w. VO 46/30 rings Honjo La Paeon fenders Mavic Open Pros w/ Ultegra hubs (32 spoke) XT rear derailer Campagnolo front derailer Acorn front rear bags Marks Rack (It is actually Mark's used rack! He sold me an extra he had.) Rides great. It is a little dirty in these pics but that is not a bad thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QvteQzooQTgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
Joe, Good to know. No plans to get one right now, but if I'm relieved to learn that if I am separated from the Rom by some misfortune or *force majeure *that there is a worthy replacement. D.G. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:38:04 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: The Homer/Romulus comparison is accurate. I've owned both, and they felt practically identical. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:51:18 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: I own one of the original green Sams, 56. I'm very close to you in height and build. 5'10, PBH 87. I run Mavic A719s with Jack Brown Blue tires. This bike is a wonderful commuter, set up with Noodles and a small front rack and large rear. I have done two centuries on it. I also have a Romulus. The difference between the two bikes is not nuanced and the Rom is my definite go-to bike when I'm just on a ride and don't need to carry more than will fit in a small saddlebag (Carradice Barley). Interestingly, when the Sam first came out Rivendell compared it to the Homer and suggested they were essentially the same, function-wise. Elsewhere Rivendell claimed the Homer was essentially the same as a Rambouillet (an upscale Romulus), ride-wise, with the only difference between the two being the Homer's ability to run wider tires. My experience with the Romulus and the Sam is that there is a lot more space between the two than you would be led to believe by their promotional material. Now, I haven't ridden a Homer, but if its biases lean towards the Ram/Rom end of the spectrum, that might be THE ONE. The Sam is a wonderful bike, comfortable, steady, and true. I just wouldn't call it fastish, and if you have a true touring bike I think you'll find it very similar to what you already have. D.G. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:13:21 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KJqPM4kcCtYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SS Coupled Saluki in Portland-East
There was a very similar coupled 'luki frameset on Craigslist last year for quite a while, but I recall it being a 58 and being very expensive, like $2300. Maybe that was what you saw, too? On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:28:11 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: I've seen this bike before ... can't remember where though, Too big for me but it's a beauty. I wish my Saluki had canti studs. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:29:03 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oh my, someone buy this so I can live vicariously through you... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/2923936121.html No affiliation, etc.. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vOYhYZQosyIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Yay Goines!
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:15 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: We've got several David Lance Goines posters in our house. When an earlier BLUG hinted that the artist of the new forthcoming Riv poster was special, I was really hoping it would be DLG. Today's BLUG confirms it is. I'm really pumped. Spectacular. I had the opportunity to visit his studio about 15 years ago when I lived in Berkeley, I was with a printmaker at the time, who worked with people who knew him well and introduced us. It was pretty cool to see his working place. You could see Velosport across the street from the front of his studio on MLK. For which he made posters for at some point. http://www.goines.net/Gallery/004_velo_sport_gal.html Good stuff. He is a unique guy with some great skills. I can't wait to see the poster. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
Hi Folks- I ride small frames cause, well, I'm short. Any where from my first road bike a 48cm RB-T to a relatively recent custom (built for someone else) that's 51cm square. Ah but the top tube is 1cm longer on the RB-T. the custom runs a longish 110 stem. Lisa is right of course. Grant won't design small frames with 700c wheels. Which is one reason why 650b popularity was such a good thing for Riv. Steep seatubes can help deal with those 700c's along with some other magic like long top tubes and slack head tube angle. I've embraced 650b's lately simply because of the possibility of fenders and a plethora of tire sizes. I remember riding 26 wheels on the road for a while. Maybe cause the bike was a MTB, but it wasn't as much fun as my RB-T. As to why there are not more small used frames for sale, they become the girl friend's or a hand me down for the kids,etc. If you want to buy a small framed bike, advertise in the Wanted Ads. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/97vjnzB_1VAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 58cm Betty Foy
Looking for a Betty, let me know if you know of one that needs a new home. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2uk3ads9mD0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
I have to dissent on the aardvark. I ride to work, and from here sometimes to the courthouse a couple of blocks away. I'm in the habit of slipping the aardvark on when I lock the atlantis up at work for the brooks-camouflage reason -- the rack is inside the parking garage, so while theft is not much of a problem, the threat of rain is even less. At the courthouse, although the bike rack sits in a covered spot, when it rains water works its way through a crack in the overhead trestles and just dumps on the racks. It's like the spot was selected for free bike washing / seat-cover testing. In any event, when I put the aardvark on there, my saddle gets wet. Not drenched, but not in my preferred dry state either. Saddle is one of the honey ones, so it's pretty obvious when the aardvark is less than effective. I picked up a Randi Jo Fab saddle cover after several instances of above. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s92.htm It's more of a hastle to slip on than the aardvark, what with the under-cover and all. It does a better job in the bike-washing rack at the courthouse -- no signs of leaks as yet. It did have an incident when I hit a spring deluge on the way home one day and the very tip of the saddle was damp. I suspect user error on that one, though -- you have to velcro the under and over covers together, and it's probably the case that I didn't get it done correctly. All that being said, when saddle camo is not in need, I like the Brooks-issued ones just fine too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: new Brooks Swift in Antique Brown steel rails
I picked this up a while ago with plans for the sporty bike. I decided to stick with my trusted B17 Special so I need to sell this, Brand new in the box with wrench and cover. The Antique brown is a beautiful color. $110 with shipping included in Cont. USA. Pls contact me offline ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aMm8yFu7YPAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: French Nitto Stems
On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:28:10 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: No. You can make one w/ some sand paper and time. Not that tough. To elaborate on this technique, roll the sandpaper around the bottom 4 inches or so of the quill, grasp it in your hand, and turn the stem around and around. you need to take 0.1mm of material off the surface, resulting in a 0.2m smaller diameter. That's what I did for my PX-10, with a Technomic Deluxe. Looks great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7_32AJ60UEQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: French Nitto Stems
Even better is a bench vice, a couple wood shims and Emory cloth- or, if you can find it, the abrasive roll-tape used for burnishing copper pipes found in the plumbing aisle. Get a good wrap on the steerer (mark/mask where you want the insertion to be) and go to town. On 3/28/12, Hank h...@wirtznet.net wrote: On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:28:10 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: No. You can make one w/ some sand paper and time. Not that tough. To elaborate on this technique, roll the sandpaper around the bottom 4 inches or so of the quill, grasp it in your hand, and turn the stem around and around. you need to take 0.1mm of material off the surface, resulting in a 0.2m smaller diameter. That's what I did for my PX-10, with a Technomic Deluxe. Looks great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7_32AJ60UEQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
There is no label on it but I believe it's most likely the smaller one. I picked the one the nice folks at FreeRange told me to pick. - Ryan On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:15:35 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote: ryan what size Serfas cover fits the B17, the standard SCB-1 or the hybrid SCB-2? mike goldman warwick,r.i. *53 Year Old Mom Looks 33* The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4f721202e9923113cb5st01duc consumerproducts.comhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3132/4f721202e9923113cb5st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eL1ms3zXtSsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I'm short, I'm old, and I'm slow. I ride a 51 Bleriot and drive an '06 Miata. Life is good, I'm happy. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vL-TKw-6xQgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Well for some if us who leave bikes locked up outside it IS an issue! Not while riding of course. I have a 15 minute commute/ 13 hour bike rack lock up/ 15 minute commute. The time this particular saddle spends without its ass hat is vastly greater than the time it is covered by me. Other bikes, maybe, not so much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kxzpRMQrAokJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter 650 rims
That's cool news. I recall seeing somewhere that Velocity was going to come out with a 650B version of their A23, which (presumably) would present another lightweight option. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, William wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/7023981885/in/photostream/ I saw this linked on the 650B group. Pacenti will be offering welded, machined sidewall 650B rims that are under 400g later this summer. That's pretty snazzy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sLUU5xZxsHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Napa County Riv riders: route advice?
Does anyone have any information on Ida Clayton / Western Mine Rd. between SR 128 and SR 29, in Napa County, CA? That segment would make a nice addition for a loop route on a tour our charity group has planned for May. ridewithgps.com shows this to be quite hilly challenging, and when followed on the satellite view it does appear to connect thru. However, ridewithgps is not perfect, so input from those with experience is welcomed appreciated. Note: also posted in iBOB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: French Nitto Stems
Agreed that sandpaper is the easiest way to go just did one myself to a Pivo stem to replace an AVA Death stem (the kind with two expansion slits) but there are retail options: http://www.yellowjersey.org/frogstem.html http://bandlbicycles.com/about/french-stems-22.0-french-bicycle-advice-pg348.htm http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=french+bike+stem On Mar 27, 9:57 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Does anybody know if Nitto offers stems in a size to fit a French steerer? --Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
Hi Will, Your component discription is the only time I've heard of anyone sucsessfully using clamp on downtube shifters on a Sam. Could you please provide more information regarding this dt shifter setup? My previous impression was that the vintage clamp bands wouldn't fit the larger diameter downtube on the Sam. The lack of down tube shifter brazeons on the Sam has been the greatest drawback for me in considering this frame. It would be nice to know of a workable solution for future possibilities.. Thanks, Mike On 3/27/12, Will wroma...@optonline.net wrote: Sean: I think a Sam would be a great choice for your needs. I'm of similar mind and size: 46 years, 6'1 with a 88 pbh. I ride a 60 Sam. Its a little tight when standing over it but i dont do that much. When I'm in the saddle its the most comfortable bike I've ever had. Right now I've got it set up pretty light and fast. No fenders or racks. Just my brand v saddle bag. Clamp on downtube shifters and Specialized Infinity 38 tires. Going with Kojaks (35s) when it gets more summery. I've had it built up heavy too. It's such a great platform. I love experimenting with it. There's so many ways to set it up. I'm so enthralled with my orange, single tt, canti braked version that I went ahead and signed on for the new bleu 2tt, side pull. I'm looking forward to the ease of use and set up of the side pull brakes and at my size the second top tube can't hurt. All that PLUS the fancy paint? I like the way Grant and Riv do things. It's a great deal. I would think that if you get one it will become your favorite. It can be your go fast and everything your other bikes do too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rksd7VXqV8sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter 650 rims
Sounds good to me, the more the better and I am pretty well married to 650b wheels right now. By chance, does anybody know the weight of the dyad and synergy rims in 650b? On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:24:01 PM UTC-5, William wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/7023981885/in/photostream/ I saw this linked on the 650B group. Pacenti will be offering welded, machined sidewall 650B rims that are under 400g later this summer. That's pretty snazzy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/71Z_fZ2e6ggJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter 650 rims
http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=634 google is good On Mar 28, 9:59 pm, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good to me, the more the better and I am pretty well married to 650b wheels right now. By chance, does anybody know the weight of the dyad and synergy rims in 650b? On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:24:01 PM UTC-5, William wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/7023981885/in/photostream/ I saw this linked on the 650B group. Pacenti will be offering welded, machined sidewall 650B rims that are under 400g later this summer. That's pretty snazzy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
Hillborne is a complete dog going to work. It wants to head to the hills, the creek, down random streets it's never been down before, the ocean 40 miles away...anywhere but work! Takes all my bike whispering skills to keep it pointed in the right direction. Now, going home is a different story. The thing's a rocket! I hear shrieks from those helium filled plastic bikes as Hillborne blurs by, fenders and all. I can barely hang on. Whoosh... On Mar 25, 4:13 pm, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
