[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
You do raise an excellent point. I'm not sure how the B17 will ride, and I'm definitely not willing to swap for a less comfortable saddle. But I've seen lots of BF bikes with A-bars and B17s so they must work for some people. The biggest BF fan in the blogosphere (Dottie from Let's Go Ride A Bike) has one and her saddle/bar height look about like mine. I've submitted photos in this thread (but I'm new, so they are presently in moderation) and maybe you all could give an opinion as to whether the B17 might work for my setup. Thanks, everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I'm happy to post photos if someone can explain how I would do this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] PHL Riv friendly LBS
Any suggestions for a Riv friendly LBS in or around PHL? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?
The Rambouillet will actually take 700x38 tires, without fenders of course--I know because I put a pair of wheels from a Cannondale hybird with very fat (IRC) 38's on my wife's Ram for the CO canal ride. It looked very funky, just barely cleared--but did--and rode wonderfully on the wet mush. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:33:04 PM UTC+1, Ryan Ray wrote: I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Homer Hilsen? Is it just a Hilsen without good rack mounts? Does Rivendell keep an archive of older stuff somewhere on their site? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
There are other options too
Rocks for Tandems attach the front fork elevated above the rail, giving
clearance for fenders. There are also the old style two piece systems that
have a tray for the rebar wheel attaching to the rear cross bar, and a
separate mounting point on the front cross bar for the front fork
Ted
On Saturday, May 11, 2013, René Sterental wrote:
Hi Pierre,
The only roof racks that work well with fendered bikes are those that grab
the frame via the downtube. Of the few available, the one I like the most
is the Thule Criterium:
http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/bike-carriers/roofcarriers/598-criterium-_-598
The other one is the Yakima Raptor Aereo, but its design isn't as refined
as the Criterium.
I'm assuming you are using long fenders, such as Honjo or Berthoud. If you
are using shorter plastic fenders that don't reach so low behind the front
wheel, then any rack that holds the fork after you remove the front wheel
might do.
René
On Saturday, May 11, 2013, Pierre wrote:
All,
I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this
option is now gone with our new car.
I am looking to buy a roof bike rack that would accommodate nicely a
fendered fat-tired bicycle with front rack (Mark's or Mini type), any
advice?
I've owned in the past a Yakima highroller, it did NOT work well with
fenders.
Thanks,
Pierre
PS: my Thule Euroway G2 923 is for sale, make an offer off-list if
interest, in the bay area (bought in Europe in 2011, so it has all the
wiring for taillights, mandatory over there)
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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
DIY saddle and bar wrap color matching made easy. Why be limited to the colors offered by the saddle makers? http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/8395437401/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Cool, my posts and pics made it through moderation! Now those of you who wanted to see Betty and her honey saddle can give me your most honest and informed opinion on a red B17. Also, tell me if you see the bars being too high for that saddle... Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
I have an SS Large on my main rig, but I have never lashed it down, it just rides freely on top of the rack. I use a Nitto QR with it, so it's really easy to take off if I want to. The only reason you need the rack there is for a little extra support for the bag.The bag doesn't sway at all as long as the rack is supporting it from beneath. Heavily loaded or empty, it's fine. I also lay my bike down a lot when stopped, sometimes fully loaded, since it doesn't have a kickstand.No problems with the bag, it meets the ground about the same time as the handlebars. Enjoy the Large Saddlesack, you will love it. Matt On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:55:01 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: I'll second the zip-tie advice. I have the medium and just use 2 zip-ties to steady it on the rear of the bag at the rack. Brian Seattle, WA On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: My Large Saddlesack is permanently on my bike. I was using zipties to attach bag to rack, but some people say that the zipties damage the bag, so currently it's only attached to the saddle, and it rests on the rack. I need to figure out some new attachment solution. I don't understand why one would use Irish straps to attach bag to rack. Irish straps are great, but where do you use them and doesn't it block the handy big opening? I take my bike on fire roads frequently. Those fire roads are either steep themselves, or found at the top of steep paved roads. So I go up and down steep roads all the time; the Atlantis and Saddlesack handle flawlessly. Weight up high has not proved to be a problem for me. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Patrick, once you get your large SS be sure to post pictures and impressions. I'm curious as to how the bikes perform with those bags out in the wild. On the one hand it puts a lot of weight up high but perhaps this isn't an issue. The bags are beautiful for sure and easy to access. I totally regret selling my medium SS a few years back. I'll say this. The medium bag was fine unanchored but was excellent when attached to a Nitto Top Rack as it stayed in place. I imagine the large ones attached to a rack with zip ties or straps is similar. I'm hoping to treat myself to a replacement Sackville saddlebag later this year and am considering going with the large. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I ride upright with a- bars and I love the b-68 and b-68s saddles. The size and shape would be my first priority over color. Even if it was the same saddle and color was the only difference, I might still have a slight preference for the honey (all my b-68 saddles are honey). That said, you can only know if the b-17 will work for you if you try it. And personal style is well, personal. If the red floats your boat, go for it. One nice thing about this list is that if you decide to go back to the b-68, you'll find a buyer for the red b-17 here and it will go to a old home where it will be appreciated. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Your pictures show a very comfortable looking seating position. I would ride with slightly higher bars, but that's just personal taste. A red saddle, either Brooks or Selle Anatomica (a great choice for instantly comfortable sans break in) would look nice. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:51 AM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Cool, my posts and pics made it through moderation! Now those of you who wanted to see Betty and her honey saddle can give me your most honest and informed opinion on a red B17. Also, tell me if you see the bars being too high for that saddle... Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
Mine darkened nicely. I treat it annually with a dallop of beeswax and coconut oil. It's just over a year old now. Here it is recently: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8699690942/in/photostream Here it is a few months into its life: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8460437107/in/photostream WIth abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
One of the many great things about Rivendells is they are made to try many and various set-ups so you can find the one you like. I took over a year to get my saddle/handlebar position worked out. There are so many variables, I would change one (tilt of the seat or handlebars or slid the seat all the way back then forward, for example) and ride with it till something got uncomfortable (sometimes 30 seconds, a few times not until hour seven on day 3 of a tour), then I tried what I thought would fix it, and see it I was comfortable longer. I'm not at all mechanically inclined, so this was me getting to play in an entirely new space and it was grand fun. It's pretty dialed in now, and if someone snuck in at night and readjusted it all, I'd be able to dial it in a lot quicker than a year from now because I learned a lot about how everything relates to how it feels in the saddle. Go for the B-17 saddle. Play with adjusting it. Forward, aft, tilt, height, handlebar height, tilt. They all interelate. Shift one, and you think, Oooo. Now I gotta shift the saddle forward. swap it back and forth with the B-68. You'll have a grand time, and learn it's OK to play with your bike. She likes it. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
Anne, I'll use the short Irish straps threaded through the leather slots on the bottom to attache it to the rack, not to strap it on by going over the whole bag. Like the leather straps posted earlier with pics. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
Thanks all! This is very helpful. Mike, I will. I already know from touring how much weight I can take how high up. I could clearly over weight the large SS easily. I'll have to learn temperance. Grin. When camping I have some clothing, my tent, stove (Kelly Kettle), sleeping bag, and pad that go up there, that should all fit in with room to spare. Side wobble is my biggest concern, but I can snug the leather straps tight and with it anchored to the rack should be no worries. Carrying a load with a wimpy brain has a steep learning curve. And I have a way of taking shallow learning curves and making them steep. Grin. The main reason I'm getting the large (over my current small) is the small is too small for daily use in the Colorado highlands. Temp swings are often 40˚F or more (today it is currently 30 pre dawn, with a predicted high near 70 with possible t-heads). So my ride today, if my brain cooperates, needs a lot of clothing options and they just don't fit in the small. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
Going the Full Monty, some rationalizations of multi-sport use and general utility need necessary : http://www.etrailer.com/tv-Review-Yakima-Rack-and-Roll-Trailer-Y08107.aspx Cuts rooftop drag of fixed rack systems all the times you are not carrying bikes or gear, and more aero under way when loaded with bikes and gear than on top. I do not enjoy putting the tandem on the roof rack and this would really improve that (making a list so I can justify; maybe REI will let me do the 20% off one time purchase of one THIS year?) Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:18:26 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: These people, of course being http://www.etrailer.com/ Cheers, David On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: What Aaron said. These people are HIGHLY recommended. All their installations are viewable on youtube and it's really straightforward. That's presuming your vehicle isn't an outlier that doesn't have the capacity, or a work vehicle or similar. Re roof racks: If you have the choice between clamp on or hard-mount screw on type, definitely going with the screw on. The clamp on ones are incredibly easy to pull off. There has been a rash of rack thefts at one of our local trailheads. Cheers, David On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If indeed the problem is no hitch in the new car, then I would suggest considering getting a hitch installed or doing it yourself. I put a hitch on my minivan and it was really pretty easy. I got the hitch from Amazon and found an install video on YouTube. Cost was about $150. I'm not sure what a roof rack costs, but if you still have the bike rack a hitch install might be cheaper than a new roof rack. Also, if you don't want to do it yourself I think Uhaul will install a hitch for about $200. Aaron Young in Vancouver, WA On Saturday, May 11, 2013, Kelly wrote: Check this one out.. Just what your looking for http://www.atoc.com/biketopper.php Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
Hi Pierre, I have Rivendells with Longboards and Yakima Boa solved my problem: http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/roof/boa/ FWIW - they work with either Thule or Yakima crossbars. Simple as it is. Cheers, Alex St. Paul On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Pierre pierre.mu...@gmail.com wrote: All, I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this option is now gone with our new car. I am looking to buy a roof bike rack that would accommodate nicely a fendered fat-tired bicycle with front rack (Mark's or Mini type), any advice? I've owned in the past a Yakima highroller, it did NOT work well with fenders. Thanks, Pierre PS: my Thule Euroway G2 923 is for sale, make an offer off-list if interest, in the bay area (bought in Europe in 2011, so it has all the wiring for taillights, mandatory over there) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes
Yes,as Steve pointed out, Rivendells use oversized tubing. My Homer is perhaps stiffer than my 155 lb body needs. I read with great interest Jan's writings on frame flex and planing with standard diameter tubing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 8:58:28 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Hey Norman get out of my head! :-) The greatest Hobo Band ever. RIP Richard, Rick Levon. My sound track through life. Hugh On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-7, Norman R wrote: My idea of classy hobo. Yes, one of the great Americana bands of all time. I often listen to their music through Pandora while riding my trusty Homer. I had the privilege of seeing them Halloween night in 1969, along with Van Morrison, the Belfast Cowboy, at the Boston Symphony Hall. What a show! Rest in peace indeed, Richard, Rick, Levon, my friends. Grant, Jan, thanks so much for educating me. The bicycle is truly a revolutionary invention. On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:51 PM UTC-4, PeterG wrote: Love the ClassyHobo thing...I picture a charlie chaplain type leaning against a Homer and contently looking at the world go by On Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:59:00 AM UTC-7, grant wrote: I'm late to this one but jusr read Jan's thing about the way he likes bikes and the way I or Riv does, and so...there's really nothing he left out, or to add. One thing to keep in mind that's easy to not keep in mind is that a group like this has already been filtered through progressively finer sieves until here we all are, comparing two species of planaria, while maybe losing the big picture, which includes tigers, volcanos, vaudeville, and black holes. Jan's planaria is rando; RIV's is kind of classy hobo, but they're both practibo and in such similar ways, beautifo. Rando came in the '40s and no doubt had its own influences, but RHerse was at the center of it, and there were a few others (read Jan's book, omg, if I may!). CHobo bikes like ours wouldn't exist without those. I'd be hooking up with assorted Chinese bike factories looking for the best deals on forks and trying to keep abreast of the lastest nanotechnological progress in carbon, or something. So, when it comes to a little more or less trail, a little more or less integration of racks, and big saddlebags versus big handlebar bags---in the picture that's only slightly bigger than the one outside the powerful microscope, it's all the same. Jan's contribution is like salt's contribution, at least that's one way I think about it. He is thumbs-upping Herse and the old French guys, pointing to them, but in doing that he's actually making a huge contribution to modern bikes and styles and tastes, educating along the way. Of course, there's nothing TO take away from the old Frenchies (as I call them, but I'm sure Jan has never), but because of the size of the bike-riding population today, Jan is himself more influential, and I'm one he's influencing. Periodically, while he's up there doing his thing and I'm down here doing mine/RIV's, we get tossed into the ring as antagonists, which makes us both feel weird, sinceit ain't like that at all. I've known Jan for close to 20 years. What we have in common brought us together and keeps us that way. His book is a masterpiece. I've read the whole thing and have dipped into it many times since. It's soothing to the eyes and feels like a cozy blanket on a chilly evening (the chilliness coming from non-planarial bikes!) G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use. Here's a quick set with some images - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157633477879224/ The second to last in the set is an old B-15. That's the only (I think) original brown colored Brooks I've got. It was used-to-me (and has leather about twice as thick as any I've bought.) - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
What I always wondered is, does the natural' darken down to where the honey starts off? On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use. Here's a quick set with some images - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157633477879224/ The second to last in the set is an old B-15. That's the only (I think) original brown colored Brooks I've got. It was used-to-me (and has leather about twice as thick as any I've bought.) - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
The SS large looks huge. I bet with one of those and a small TrunkSack I could fit everything for an S24O. Here's a picture of my Hilsen from a couple of years ago when I did an S24O using only the medium SS and a TS. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4945981066/in/set-72157613195465589 Just looking at that picture makes me realize that the medium is quite spacious. That's a 63cm Hilsen. Here's another picture of the Hilsen with gear for a 3 day trip using the medium SS and a plat-rack. This was just a mock-up, in the end I went with panniers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4982443897/in/set-72157613195465589 For that 3 day trip I ended up going with panniers and the platrack. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4994215959/in/set-72157613195465589 If I were doing that trip again I'd just use two large Ortlieb panniers and keep it simple. I'd also use my LHT instead of the Hilsen. Looking at these pictures makes me realize the Hilsen is an extremely versatile bike. --mike On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:14:29 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks all! This is very helpful. Mike, I will. I already know from touring how much weight I can take how high up. I could clearly over weight the large SS easily. I'll have to learn temperance. Grin. When camping I have some clothing, my tent, stove (Kelly Kettle), sleeping bag, and pad that go up there, that should all fit in with room to spare. Side wobble is my biggest concern, but I can snug the leather straps tight and with it anchored to the rack should be no worries. Carrying a load with a wimpy brain has a steep learning curve. And I have a way of taking shallow learning curves and making them steep. Grin. The main reason I'm getting the large (over my current small) is the small is too small for daily use in the Colorado highlands. Temp swings are often 40˚F or more (today it is currently 30 pre dawn, with a predicted high near 70 with possible t-heads). So my ride today, if my brain cooperates, needs a lot of clothing options and they just don't fit in the small. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Well...I got a lot of Go red! votes and decided to cruise on over to wallbike.com to snatch the saddle and lo and behold - sold out! I shot them an email to see when they get more. They have a very generous 6 month return policy, and I purchased my other Brooks from them, so will wait until I can purchase from them again. Love getting all the feedback; my husband rides a Target Schwinn and simply cannot understand all the obsession with my bike. And nobody else I know can, either. In fact, when I got my Riv I gleefully waited for other cyclists to realize the rare beauty I was riding was a real Riv, but alas, no one has ever noticed! And though I look for them in the wild, I have never seen any. I thought for sure I would, since I live in SoCal. Anyway, it's great to have found like-minded folks! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
*Sorry Betty*, *but we may need to rename this one Leah Foy. * It looks great on you and your family, Leah. I would seriously consider Deacon Patrick's advice. I love the B17 (and own more than I care to admit), but it's not as comfortable as the B68 or B67 (sprung version) in my opinion. And with age the honey gets more beautiful (IMO). Stick with comfort... you'll be glad you did. Peace, BB On Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:08:18 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: Well...I got a lot of Go red! votes and decided to cruise on over to wallbike.com to snatch the saddle and lo and behold - sold out! I shot them an email to see when they get more. They have a very generous 6 month return policy, and I purchased my other Brooks from them, so will wait until I can purchase from them again. Love getting all the feedback; my husband rides a Target Schwinn and simply cannot understand all the obsession with my bike. And nobody else I know can, either. In fact, when I got my Riv I gleefully waited for other cyclists to realize the rare beauty I was riding was a real Riv, but alas, no one has ever noticed! And though I look for them in the wild, I have never seen any. I thought for sure I would, since I live in SoCal. Anyway, it's great to have found like-minded folks! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
It is a lovely bike, and the red B17 will look great on it it, I hope it fits you as well. You will probably have to be content with appreciate comments over the internet, as other than that anything more than the occasional How old is that bike? comment are few and far between IRL. Thread hijack alert That said, maybe us Sureños can get together for a lugged steel bicycle parade at the next CicLAvia on June 23rd Cheers, David On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Well...I got a lot of Go red! votes and decided to cruise on over to wallbike.com to snatch the saddle and lo and behold - sold out! I shot them an email to see when they get more. They have a very generous 6 month return policy, and I purchased my other Brooks from them, so will wait until I can purchase from them again. Love getting all the feedback; my husband rides a Target Schwinn and simply cannot understand all the obsession with my bike. And nobody else I know can, either. In fact, when I got my Riv I gleefully waited for other cyclists to realize the rare beauty I was riding was a real Riv, but alas, no one has ever noticed! And though I look for them in the wild, I have never seen any. I thought for sure I would, since I live in SoCal. Anyway, it's great to have found like-minded folks! Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
This one is about ten years old. I rarely put any poofhide on it so it's a little lighter than some others. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/7708647220/in/photostream On Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:42:28 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: What I always wondered is, does the natural' darken down to where the honey starts off? On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netjavascript: wrote: I like the honey colored ones, but they definitely darken down with use. Here's a quick set with some images - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157633477879224/ The second to last in the set is an old B-15. That's the only (I think) original brown colored Brooks I've got. It was used-to-me (and has leather about twice as thick as any I've bought.) - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Can't leave any of my bikes static for long...
Changed up the Rambouillet a little today. Added the IRD Stem Shifter mount as I am getting too old to reach down to the downtube to shift, changed the rear derailler, put the fenders back on, a few other minor things. Here is a picture set of it's current incarnation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/sets/72157633463438407/with/8732523012/ David Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
@Peter: apparently it does. Dig this: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Can't leave any of my bikes static for long...
Nice setup, David. I love the new tape job, too! I have recently moved the shifters to the stem on my Miyata, and like the change up. I'm using the stacked method that Rene pointed out. Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa On May 12, 2013, at 10:48 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: Changed up the Rambouillet a little today. Added the IRD Stem Shifter mount as I am getting too old to reach down to the downtube to shift, changed the rear derailler, put the fenders back on, a few other minor things. Here is a picture set of it's current incarnation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/sets/72157633463438407/with/8732523012/ David Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
Thanks for the info and pics, y'all. It looks like it makes for unique, interesting, and beautiful wear patterns for each saddle and rider. Kinda like a sunburst painted guitar. It looks like it makes for a sunburst type coloration on a saddle. Very cool. Dark in some areas, lighter in others. You might think I am crazy to think about a saddle this way. But the aesthetics do play a role in the enjoyment of a bike. The colors make a mood and character of the bike. Just like the other stuff you put on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
Agreed. The looks are very important. Makes the bike so personal, I think. My honey saddle is 9 months old, and I would say it hasn't darkened so much, but it is richer looking with age. I have treated it with Proofhide a few times and it really brings out a richness in the color. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: PHL Riv friendly LBS
I have been to trophy bikes several times while visiting Philly. They carry a good selection of practical bikes from Bromptions to Waterfords and the staff is knowledgeable. http://www.trophybikes.com/ -Jimmy On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:25:07 PM UTC-4, Dan Scott wrote: Any suggestions for a Riv friendly LBS in or around PHL? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
+1 for the leather straps under the bag to fix to the rack instead if zip ties. I use Carradice leather straps which are thinner and more flexible than the Acorn straps. No sway whatsoever, even descending rough rocky trails as proven on the last RBW S24O. Additionally, if you have the smaller of the two Nitto Large Rear Racks, you'll get no interference from the front of the rack under the saddle, since it goes well under the saddle as the frame is more inclined and thus, more parallel to the seat stays. The larger version of the rack is more vertical and the front of the rack is further back, which usually interferes with the bag and forces you to push it backwards which ends up tilting its rear upwards. Here is where strapping the rear of the bag to the rack really helps. It's not a show stopper, but you just wish the bag could be pushed further forward under the saddle IMO. On the larger Hunqapillar sizes and perhaps some other newer frames, the braze ons for the rack are places higher on the seat stays so the smaller rack fits perfectly. On my Atlantis I can't use the smaller rack. René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: The SS large looks huge. I bet with one of those and a small TrunkSack I could fit everything for an S24O. Here's a picture of my Hilsen from a couple of years ago when I did an S24O using only the medium SS and a TS. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4945981066/in/set-72157613195465589 Just looking at that picture makes me realize that the medium is quite spacious. That's a 63cm Hilsen. Here's another picture of the Hilsen with gear for a 3 day trip using the medium SS and a plat-rack. This was just a mock-up, in the end I went with panniers. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4982443897/in/set-72157613195465589 For that 3 day trip I ended up going with panniers and the platrack. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4994215959/in/set-72157613195465589 If I were doing that trip again I'd just use two large Ortlieb panniers and keep it simple. I'd also use my LHT instead of the Hilsen. Looking at these pictures makes me realize the Hilsen is an extremely versatile bike. --mike On Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:14:29 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks all! This is very helpful. Mike, I will. I already know from touring how much weight I can take how high up. I could clearly over weight the large SS easily. I'll have to learn temperance. Grin. When camping I have some clothing, my tent, stove (Kelly Kettle), sleeping bag, and pad that go up there, that should all fit in with room to spare. Side wobble is my biggest concern, but I can snug the leather straps tight and with it anchored to the rack should be no worries. Carrying a load with a wimpy brain has a steep learning curve. And I have a way of taking shallow learning curves and making them steep. Grin. The main reason I'm getting the large (over my current small) is the small is too small for daily use in the Colorado highlands. Temp swings are often 40˚F or more (today it is currently 30 pre dawn, with a predicted high near 70 with possible t-heads). So my ride today, if my brain cooperates, needs a lot of clothing options and they just don't fit in the small. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev loss, this 48 mile ride should have been a day at the beachNOT! Pictures prove we really did it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8732609472/in/photostream/ There were, to use cyclotourist's term, grades of significance. Absolutely stunning views from the top'o'the hill. The Antelope Valley in one direction all of LA, right out to PV peninsula, in the other. We were riding thru the area devastated by the Station Fire in 2009, as evidenced by the burned trees. However, life is a tough thing Hugh got lots of good photos of Indian paintbrush, etc, that is blooming this time of year. All the photowork is Hugh's; plagiarism is my contribution. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
Today's ride confirmed that the large SS is the way to go. I removed my small SS and just used the panniers, which have the same capacity as the large. But the panniers are a lot more brain energy to access and close up, let alone remember which side what is on. Thank you for all the input guys and gals! Interestingly, I found the xs SS works best for me on the handlebars. I had moved it to the saddle under the logic that nothing on the handlebars may be better than even an xs. Nope. The wee bit of weight is a good thing and doesn't mess with stearing at all. Much easier to push the bike up steep trails and climbing when riding is also easier -- I presume because the weight helps keep the stearing from getting too light. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Grand adventure is what it's all about! Great looking ride. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can't leave any of my bikes static for long...
I know the feeling. My Hilsen and Cross Check are in the same boat. Your Rambouillet looks great. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Doug Hugh, looks like a great ride. The terrain there is so different than what we have here in OR. Both the bikes look perfect. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Found the Elfin Magic
When I purchased and had Keven and Mark build up my AHH a few months ago, I went with the default 100mm Tallux Stem. I had nothing to compare it too since I've always road race bikes previously. After 2 months of adjusting the stem height, saddle tilt, etc. I wasn't able to find a really comfortable position that didn't put too much weight on my hands. Finally broke down and used some Riv bucks to bujy a 70 instead. Instant Elfin magic!!! It's perfect.Very little weight on my hands, and found the sweet spot for sure. I love it even more. On a side note, after a ride this morning I switched out the Marathon Supremes' that I had spec'd originally with some Jack Browns.Green in front and Blue in the back. I haven't ridden them yet but wow are they easy to mount. Another winner. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from completing last week. Leaving my house, I climb up Mountain Avenue, a mountain residential road which mostly climbs to Mt. Ester trailhead. Mt. Ester trail is a 40 minute push the bike over rocks and roots and grades I preferred not to measure. At the saddle I turned right and soon passed my previous turn around point. Great single track! I rode this ride as if I were Whinny the Pooh on expotition. Lots of stops and enjoying the near absence of motors. Then it was on to the Pikes Peak access road, rather like a fire road, but for the maintenance of our reservoirs. Though 4/5th of the total distance, from here it was only 1/3rd the total time (estimating, I didn't track anything). Then it was a grand fast winding mountain descent on paved road down to Hwy 24 and even faster return home from just west of Woodland Park. All said, five wondrous hours of expotition on the bike! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8733131222/in/photostream With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Found the Elfin Magic
Congratulations! You're way ahead of me on finding the elvin magic. I took over a year to dial in my prefered saddle and handlebar places. Enjoy the ride! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Looks like a fun time! Thanks for sharing. Was wondering if you have ever spent extended lengths of time at sea level and how the vertigo responds to that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Great question! I have. It doesn't. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Yeah Mike I was comparing the contrast between our two different worlds our's arid your's temperate both interesting to ride. The ride was exhilarating and great to be on the saddle for a whole day and Doug's a good ride partner. I was mentioning to Doug that I'm going to make a road trip up to the NW in 2014 for some riding in you're terrain and well yes some good Oregon brewed beer too. Maybe there be a Riv convergence :-) ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:13:16 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Doug Hugh, looks like a great ride. The terrain there is so different than what we have here in OR. Both the bikes look perfect. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
And the Hilsen and Atlantis performed magnificently ~Hugh. On Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:44:03 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Yeah Mike I was comparing the contrast between our two different worlds our's arid your's temperate both interesting to ride. The ride was exhilarating and great to be on the saddle for a whole day and Doug's a good ride partner. I was mentioning to Doug that I'm going to make a road trip up to the NW in 2014 for some riding in you're terrain and well yes some good Oregon brewed beer too. Maybe there be a Riv convergence :-) ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:13:16 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Doug Hugh, looks like a great ride. The terrain there is so different than what we have here in OR. Both the bikes look perfect. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch with me or Andy from this list. There's a lot of great riding just outside the city. And if you're willing to drive a little ways outside the city, to say Estacada, you have easy access to the quiet forest roads of the Mt Hood National Forest. Of course, for best results, either drive further into the forest or just go big on the cycling mileage. All this applies to Doug also, or pretty much any Riv lister. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Mr. Patrick, Awesome photo's really enjoyed them. Looks to be a wonderful ride and one I could see my self doing. Keep em coming. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 1:21:07 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from completing last week. Leaving my house, I climb up Mountain Avenue, a mountain residential road which mostly climbs to Mt. Ester trailhead. Mt. Ester trail is a 40 minute push the bike over rocks and roots and grades I preferred not to measure. At the saddle I turned right and soon passed my previous turn around point. Great single track! I rode this ride as if I were Whinny the Pooh on expotition. Lots of stops and enjoying the near absence of motors. Then it was on to the Pikes Peak access road, rather like a fire road, but for the maintenance of our reservoirs. Though 4/5th of the total distance, from here it was only 1/3rd the total time (estimating, I didn't track anything). Then it was a grand fast winding mountain descent on paved road down to Hwy 24 and even faster return home from just west of Woodland Park. All said, five wondrous hours of expotition on the bike! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8733131222/in/photostream With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Beautiful country Patrick. Looks like you're really getting out there and exploring on your Hunq. I'm not complain about the riding I have access to here in Portland but I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't jealous of what you have available to you in your backyard. As always, thanks for posting pictures. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Mike, It's in the works, enough time to plan logistics, time, lodging and different rides especially those in moist forested places. And yes you two will be in the loop. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:04:30 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch with me or Andy from this list. There's a lot of great riding just outside the city. And if you're willing to drive a little ways outside the city, to say Estacada, you have easy access to the quiet forest roads of the Mt Hood National Forest. Of course, for best results, either drive further into the forest or just go big on the cycling mileage. All this applies to Doug also, or pretty much any Riv lister. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Great stuff. You live in a spectacular region. Thanks for sharing the adventure and photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
They forgot to mention we're in a bit of a heat-wave right now, with today the blisteringly hottest (105F currently in my back yard). Don't know if it was like that at their elevation, but a consideration nonetheless! Looks like one long consequential climb to me! Cheers, David On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:13 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, It's in the works, enough time to plan logistics, time, lodging and different rides especially those in moist forested places. And yes you two will be in the loop. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:04:30 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch with me or Andy from this list. There's a lot of great riding just outside the city. And if you're willing to drive a little ways outside the city, to say Estacada, you have easy access to the quiet forest roads of the Mt Hood National Forest. Of course, for best results, either drive further into the forest or just go big on the cycling mileage. All this applies to Doug also, or pretty much any Riv lister. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Several tangential thoughts in response to what's been said above... I have brain injury and constant neurological vertigo (among other fun). I hadn't ridden a bicycle (except for occasional trying to see how it and my vertigo got along) since the end of 2002. Late last winter, I tried a bike again. It worked! But only for a few tenths of a mile (a cheep folder my wife had). I wondered if a bike sized for me would work better. Borrowed a friends steel Schwinn and made it 3 miles before my brain said no further, knucklehead! Kitting our daughters for rides, I ended up with an old Trek that was too small, but we Rivendelled it up with Albatross handlebars and tires. Now I could go 8 miles. Was I simply improving or was it the bikes? I rode the Schwinn again. 3 miles only. It was the bikes. All this time I'd been researching and was impressed by Grant's approach and decided to take a leap of faith and get a Hunqapillar. I've spent many 6+ hour days in the saddle, done countless overnights and a few tours, one that lasted 9 days. The bike matters. Having said all that, I've no idea what my second point was (no short term memory is part of the fun). I'll post it separate if something jogs it loose. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Ahhh ha! Looking though the threads, I got it. Hip position. When you get your B17, play around with the tilt of your pelvic girdle (by flattening or excentuating the curve of your lower back). This will help you find what riding position is most comfortable for each saddle. WIth abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
Any reason to use leather rather than Irish straps? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Davis DC Workers Ride 5-11-13
My latest Quickbeam adventure: 200 miles (7,500 feet of climbing) on the QB in its latest incarnation, running a 3-speed IGH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633479207826/show/ You can see my QB leaning against the wall at the top of Monticello Dam in this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8731543679/in/set-72157633479207826/lightbox/ The ride was the Workers Ride edition of the Davis Double Century, the official version of which happens next Saturday. I took a lot of video, which I hope to stitch together into a coherent whole over the next few days. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Davis DC Workers Ride 5-11-13
200 miles! That's impressive, Eric! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just how dark do Brooks honey saddles get?
Do the black one's show any type of special wear over time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
Pierre, What Michael and Aaron said. Are you just determined to have a roof rack system? I have a friend who is in no way stupid but he has decimated two bicycles running the whole system loaded into parking garages. Of course both were covered by insurance but do you really want to go though the hassle of hoisting a bike up to the roof and or an insurance claim? I've had the Thule Thule T2 XTR - 2 Bikehttp://www.rei.com/product/816726/thule-t2-xtr-2-bike carrier it carried my Hilsen with long board fenders great. I later sold it because I sold my truck and bought a small Miata installed a receiver hitch myself and bought a Saris Freedom 2-Bike Hitch Rack which was half the weight, it works okay as it offers main support at the down tube and does not damage the paint. One caveat though it does take some fine tuning to fit two bikes well, but once you get the hang of it no problem. The Thule though if you have the vehicle is by far the easiest to use and my recommendation. ~Hugh On Friday, May 10, 2013 10:19:28 PM UTC-7, Pierre wrote: All, I have an outstanding hitch bike rack (Thule Euroway G2 923), but this option is now gone with our new car. I am looking to buy a roof bike rack that would accommodate nicely a fendered fat-tired bicycle with front rack (Mark's or Mini type), any advice? I've owned in the past a Yakima highroller, it did NOT work well with fenders. Thanks, Pierre PS: my Thule Euroway G2 923 is for sale, make an offer off-list if interest, in the bay area (bought in Europe in 2011, so it has all the wiring for taillights, mandatory over there) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
I already had the leather straps. Any strap will do. — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Any reason to use leather rather than Irish straps? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Tilting a B17 is the key to riding it comfortably. Irrespective of how it looks. A dual bolt post that can let you tweak the inclination by a quarter turn of one bolt is a must. René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ahhh ha! Looking though the threads, I got it. Hip position. When you get your B17, play around with the tilt of your pelvic girdle (by flattening or excentuating the curve of your lower back). This will help you find what riding position is most comfortable for each saddle. WIth abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
On Sun, 2013-05-12 at 16:51 -0700, René Sterental wrote: Tilting a B17 is the key to riding it comfortably. Irrespective of how it looks. A dual bolt post that can let you tweak the inclination by a quarter turn of one bolt is a must. Agree 100%. 2-bolt posts are great, and setting the correct angle is very important with the B.17. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I've never heard of such a thing! All this time I've been wrenching on my current saddle with an Allen key, adjusting it a millimeter this way or that. There is actually some better contraption out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Nitto: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sp2.htm Paul: http://www.paulcomp.com/seatpost.html But the best IMO is Thomson setback in silver: http://bikethomson.com/seatposts/elite-seatpost-series/ The problem is you need a decent amount of post showing in order to clear the bend they have. Looking at your set up, it wouldn't work, although the top two would be fine. Cheers, David On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I've never heard of such a thing! All this time I've been wrenching on my current saddle with an Allen key, adjusting it a millimeter this way or that. There is actually some better contraption out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I use this one : http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/seatposts/vo-grand-cru-seat-post-long-setback.html You will still need to ride with an Allen key, but adjustment is so much easier! Sage cycling, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] PHL Riv friendly LBS
Trophy Bikes in Northern Liberties Bicycle Revolutions in Queen Village Via Bicycle off South Street My basement!!! -J, PHL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
+1 on what Deacon stated, as good as the Red saddle would look you might rue the experience in the up right position and end up posting a transaction selling a red B-17 on this list.Then again you may just want to go for it and perhaps it'll work for you especially if they make the red B-17 in a ladies model. And welcome to the group the best group on the web! Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:15:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Welcome! Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the Betty? An upright position has us sitting on the wider part of our sit bones, so saddle width makes a big difference. Aside from that, I haven't an opinion one way or the other. Go for what gives you delight, first to ride, second to look upon. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: PHL Riv friendly LBS
What are you looking for? I live just outside of Philly. I can help with a build if need be. On Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:49:08 PM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote: Trophy Bikes in Northern Liberties Bicycle Revolutions in Queen Village Via Bicycle off South Street My basement!!! -J, PHL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.
Love it! Hope your Mother's day was great all around On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:59 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I'm late to the party, but here's one from yesterday. Pictured are my two best little guys, my best furball, and their dad/my husband is behind the lens. On Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:41:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: We always post pics of our bikes, but rarely us on them. Post some pics of yourself on your Rivendell. I will follow along shortly if I can get one snapped of myself on the new Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Why is the Surly hub axle bolt binding?
How thick are your dropouts? Is it possible that you're bottoming out the bolt and serrated washer on the end of the axle that protrudes into the dropout before you're fully clamping the dropout? I use the same hubs on my Quickbeam with no problems, I have found that they don't need huge torque (i.e. more that can be easily achieved with a standard 5mm allen) to keep things in place. On Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:50:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got a hub like this one on the 03 Curt. I've liberally greased the bolt at all interfaces with other metal; yet when I torque it down hard enough to keep the rear wheel in place one or other or both of the 6mm allens bind to the point where my saddlebag allen (the typical L shaped single) won't budgit. You torque down and the bolt makes a loud, grating/creaking sound, then binds. I am scared of getting a flat and finding I can't remove the rear wheel. Wassup widdat? Must I go back to a nutted track axle? [image: Inline image 1] -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Patrick, Amazing photos and riding. Was out that way once. On our honeymoon in 1989. Not once was it that clear. Rode the train up Pike's Peak and remember thinking it would be fun to ride out there some day. Am totally jealous, but the photos do jog some good memories. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: Great stuff. You live in a spectacular region. Thanks for sharing the adventure and photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th
For those that are interested in watching 10 seconds of people riding their bikes really fast up a mountain. Doing an overnighter somewhere over Diablo. Planning on heading out from walnut creek bart around 6ish on Friday and riding the most of the mountain to get to our campsite. Camping somewhere and riding the next day to check out the race. Expect to bring food for that Friday's dinner, breakfast and lunch snacks for that Saturday. Route could be similar to the new year's ride.. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/TvuBu8bc-R4/ozaqpT14Rv8J Which means it will be ruddy and steeply stupid at some sections. Knobs for this ride wouldn't be a bad idea. -Manny Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Hey Doug-- is that the new Nitto rear rack that you have on your atlantis? If so, how do you like it? On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:30:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev loss, this 48 mile ride should have been a day at the beachNOT! Pictures prove we really did it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8732609472/in/photostream/ There were, to use cyclotourist's term, grades of significance. Absolutely stunning views from the top'o'the hill. The Antelope Valley in one direction all of LA, right out to PV peninsula, in the other. We were riding thru the area devastated by the Station Fire in 2009, as evidenced by the burned trees. However, life is a tough thing Hugh got lots of good photos of Indian paintbrush, etc, that is blooming this time of year. All the photowork is Hugh's; plagiarism is my contribution. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.
Thank you; you are too kind. I had a great whole weekend with this crew! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
David, It was warmer today about a 100F at my house, cooler yesterday and cooler yet up at elevation. And as Doug quoted while on Mendenhall there's always another hill of consequence and it was one long day of consequential climbing. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:26:32 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: They forgot to mention we're in a bit of a heat-wave right now, with today the blisteringly hottest (105F currently in my back yard). Don't know if it was like that at their elevation, but a consideration nonetheless! Looks like one long consequential climb to me! Cheers, David On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:13 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Mike, It's in the works, enough time to plan logistics, time, lodging and different rides especially those in moist forested places. And yes you two will be in the loop. ~Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:04:30 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Hugh, if you're in Portland next year definitely get in touch with me or Andy from this list. There's a lot of great riding just outside the city. And if you're willing to drive a little ways outside the city, to say Estacada, you have easy access to the quiet forest roads of the Mt Hood National Forest. Of course, for best results, either drive further into the forest or just go big on the cycling mileage. All this applies to Doug also, or pretty much any Riv lister. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Lugged Nitto is the perfect match for brooks saddles IMO. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/so 39.htm On May 12, 2013 8:51 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on what Deacon stated, as good as the Red saddle would look you might rue the experience in the up right position and end up posting a transaction selling a red B-17 on this list.Then again you may just want to go for it and perhaps it'll work for you especially if they make the red B-17 in a ladies model. And welcome to the group the best group on the web! Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:15:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Welcome! Are you aware of how differently the B17 rides than the B68? The B17 can be too narrow for a more upright position, which I presume you have on the Betty? An upright position has us sitting on the wider part of our sit bones, so saddle width makes a big difference. Aside from that, I haven't an opinion one way or the other. Go for what gives you delight, first to ride, second to look upon. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report: Pikes Peak Continued...
Thanks for posting Patrick!looks like the Hunq is getting used perfectly. -Mike On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Today I got to go out and complete the ride that snow stopped me from completing last week. Leaving my house, I climb up Mountain Avenue, a mountain residential road which mostly climbs to Mt. Ester trailhead. Mt. Ester trail is a 40 minute push the bike over rocks and roots and grades I preferred not to measure. At the saddle I turned right and soon passed my previous turn around point. Great single track! I rode this ride as if I were Whinny the Pooh on expotition. Lots of stops and enjoying the near absence of motors. Then it was on to the Pikes Peak access road, rather like a fire road, but for the maintenance of our reservoirs. Though 4/5th of the total distance, from here it was only 1/3rd the total time (estimating, I didn't track anything). Then it was a grand fast winding mountain descent on paved road down to Hwy 24 and even faster return home from just west of Woodland Park. All said, five wondrous hours of expotition on the bike! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8733131222/in/photostream With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Ha Jeremy, I noticed the rack too as I thought he had a Nitto big back rack on our last ride. The rack looked great and was finished off with usual Nitto fashion, great welds beautiful shiny finish. I'll let Doug fill in the other metrics. `Hugh On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: Hey Doug-- is that the new Nitto rear rack that you have on your atlantis? If so, how do you like it? On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:30:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev loss, this 48 mile ride should have been a day at the beachNOT! Pictures prove we really did it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8732609472/in/photostream/ There were, to use cyclotourist's term, grades of significance. Absolutely stunning views from the top'o'the hill. The Antelope Valley in one direction all of LA, right out to PV peninsula, in the other. We were riding thru the area devastated by the Station Fire in 2009, as evidenced by the burned trees. However, life is a tough thing Hugh got lots of good photos of Indian paintbrush, etc, that is blooming this time of year. All the photowork is Hugh's; plagiarism is my contribution. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Looks incredible, guys! I've been wanting to get up into that area myself. Thanks for posting the photos! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: PHL Riv friendly LBS
Brian - thanks for the offer. Just looking for a good place to get serviced, etc. and prefer to use a Riv friendly. My LBS in the burbs )swarthmore area is only into the typical road bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
On my Rambouillet, I found that fastex buckles work really well to secure the large saddle sack. Half the fastex is triple zipped tied to each Brooks saddle hoop. The other side is attached to the bag with short leather straps. The bag sits flat on a Nitto mini rack with a light nylon strap wrapped under the bag around the rack. Of course I can't see the bag when I ride, but it feels pretty stable. I've also used this setup for years with a Carradice Long Flap. Cheap, easy on and off and very convenient for commuting where I can't leave the bag on the bike. Jon Shinefeld PhilaPA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
Thanks everybody. I've checked out the Thule Criterium at REI, looks very well designed. I consider that hitch mounted bicycle racks are a better solution, by far (easy loading/unloading, accommodate virtually any bike, most will even tilt to access trunk, safe...). The only downside I found (noted by some above) is that if you have baskets (even the small Wald wire one), it can get crowded. Anyway, owners manual say towing with our Jetta sportswagen TDI (automatic) will void warranty. Apparently, this a new restriction with 2013 models. Lawyer thing probably. Wording in unclear to me, is having a tow bar installed and exclusively used with a bike rack (that's 40kg total max). considered towing. Pierre. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large SaddleSack Load and Anchor Questions
Patrick: I used large zip ties, which won't cinch to as tight a radius as the smaller ones will. Here's a recent picture from a s24o done yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8732869528/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
It's not a Foy, but the Hilsen certainly rocks the red saddle, if I do say so myself. So-so profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/7230483948/ Hilsen in repose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7398233282/ Cheers, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] The Spokesman
Great short video of a bike collector. Pretty sure that's a copy of Just Ride he's thumbing through there too. http://vimeo.com/65542790 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another casual Saturday ride in So Cal
Yes, it's a Nitto R26. Quite a bit different than the Big Back Rack that I got from Rivendell a few years ago. It's a couple of inches shorter and the platform is much narrower. The Big Deal is the second set of bars to allow mounting panniers below the platform. That works well. Since I don't use a rack trunk, the narrow platform is OK for me (so far!). At 3 wide, it's too narrow for most rack trunks such as Riv's loafers. The shiny chrome plating was a bit of a visual adjustment after years of looking at the soft gray nickel plating of the Nitto. My fashion consultant tells me the finish fits the character of the Atlantis to quit worrying about it. I did a 4 bag camping trip last weekend it has good heel clearance, stiffness, etc., all the things important to touring cyclists. dougP On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:16:02 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: Hey Doug-- is that the new Nitto rear rack that you have on your atlantis? If so, how do you like it? On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:30:03 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Hugh on his Hilsen I on my Atlantis, off for a fun filled Saturday adventure. With an average grade of minus 3% and a 2,000' elev loss, this 48 mile ride should have been a day at the beachNOT! Pictures prove we really did it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/8732609472/in/photostream/ There were, to use cyclotourist's term, grades of significance. Absolutely stunning views from the top'o'the hill. The Antelope Valley in one direction all of LA, right out to PV peninsula, in the other. We were riding thru the area devastated by the Station Fire in 2009, as evidenced by the burned trees. However, life is a tough thing Hugh got lots of good photos of Indian paintbrush, etc, that is blooming this time of year. All the photowork is Hugh's; plagiarism is my contribution. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] The Spokesman
Thanks for sharing Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 8:11 PM, velomann velom...@gmail.com wrote: Great short video of a bike collector. Pretty sure that's a copy of Just Ride he's thumbing through there too. http://vimeo.com/65542790 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: TOC Overnight Camp trip May 17-18th
The trails of Devil Mountain are often, indeed, ruddy. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
More important than the aesthetics issue is the comfort issue. You won't know until you try. Call around local shoppes to see if they have an old B17 lying around you could take out on a trial run. If you like the red, you could buy one thru them. I don't know where you are located, but anywhere near Baltimore, MD and you are welcome to borrow one of mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Any advice for a Riv-friendly (roof) bicycle rack?
Better ask the dealer on that one. Maybe even get it in writing if you are
worried at all. I wouldn't think that would be considered towing though.
-Aaron in Vancouver
On Sunday, May 12, 2013, Pierre wrote:
Thanks everybody. I've checked out the Thule Criterium at REI, looks very
well designed.
I consider that hitch mounted bicycle racks are a better solution, by far
(easy loading/unloading, accommodate virtually any bike, most will even
tilt to access trunk, safe...).
The only downside I found (noted by some above) is that if you have
baskets (even the small Wald wire one), it can get crowded.
Anyway, owners manual say towing with our Jetta sportswagen TDI
(automatic) will void warranty. Apparently, this a new restriction with
2013 models. Lawyer thing probably.
Wording in unclear to me, is having a tow bar installed and exclusively
used with a bike rack (that's 40kg total max). considered towing.
Pierre.
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[RBW] Re: Found the Elfin Magic
Dig this: Two of the Rivfolks communicated to me *as if they did not cotton* to short stems on a bike, which is surprising since they are usually into whatever makes you comfy. I was really surprised to even read a derisive comment from one of them about the aesthetics of a short stem. I was shocked!!! And *especially* from who's fingers the comment was typed! I love my Bleriot and Sam Hillborne but seems like their TT's are too long for me, so I have needed to shorten the stems alot. I use a 7cm stem ( and Noodles) on my Bleriot and a 6cm stem ( and 'staches for now) on my Hillborne (apologies to the folks at Rivendell for me using short stems). All I can say was I was getting some major pain that lasted for many days after even a shortish ride from my stock 8cm stem. The reach was too long for me. Went to 6 with a stache and am now riding in comfort. My back and neck like it so far. I will switch back to the Noodles eventually and see if it is indeed the stem that did the trick or if it was the staches. Either way - the stem gets me 2cm closer than before. The staches gets me 4cm closer than the noodles in the hood area. So seems like my body was insisting on a shorter reach. I guess we are more progressive then even the Rivendellians!! Let's pave the future for comfort with our short stem extensions!!! Congrats on finding a better stem extension. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Found the Elfin Magic
Dig this: A couple Rivfolks communicated to me *as if they did not cotton* to short stems on a bike, which is surprising since they are usually into whatever makes you comfy. I was really surprised to even read a derisive comment from one of them about the aesthetics of short stems. I was surprised to say the least. I love my Bleriot and Sam Hillborne but seems like their TT's are too long for me, so I have needed to shorten the stems alot. I use a 7cm stem ( and Noodles) on my Bleriot and a 6cm stem ( and 'staches for now) on my Hillborne (apologies to the folks at Rivendell. I love you guys and your bikes, but I wear S in suit jackets. I got a short reach/trunk. What can I say.). Maybe I am one of those peeps who could use a custom. All I can say was I was getting some major pain that lasted for *many*days after even a shortish ride from my stock 8cm stem. The reach was too long for me. Went to 6 with a stache and am now riding in comfort. My back and neck like it so far. I will switch back to the Noodles eventually and see if it is indeed the stem that did the trick or if it was the staches. Either way - the stem gets me 2cm closer than before. The staches gets me 4cm closer than the noodles in the hood area. So seems like my body was insisting on a shorter reach. I guess we are more progressive then even the Rivendellians!! Let's pave the future for comfort with our short stem extensions!!! ;) Congrats on finding your ideal stem extension!! Now let us see some pics of your new ride! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Thanks, Michael! I'd sure have taken you up on that if I lived close, but I'm not even in the same time zone! I'll be in touch with wallbike.com tomorrow and see what they say about the B17 after I send them a pic of my current setup. Wonder if this cherry Brooks will be so gorgeous that I abandon the comfort of my B68 in favor of shallow good looks... I am, after all, female, and have given in to beauty over function before... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Davis DC Workers Ride 5-11-13
Very kewl. You cats are too much. Wish I could go 200 miles. Thanks for sharing those great photos. I like your spoke reflectors. Reflective tape? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your modern geometry aluminum/carbon road bikes?
I am interested in your take on how your rides develop over your centuries (or greater) rides on your Rivs vs. your modern geo/materials road bikes. Do you find yourself comfortable longer on the Riv's? Safer handling for when your are tired after great distances? Maybe no diffs? Maybe you feel that your conditioning determines your ride quality regardless of what you are riding? Interested in hearing everyone's subjective experiences. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Spokesman
Beautiful! I like it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Davis DC Workers Ride 5-11-13
I found the spoke reflectors at a nine show. They are slotted plastic tubes wrapped in 3M reflective tape that snap onto the spokes. Very highly visible at night. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On May 12, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Very kewl. You cats are too much. Wish I could go 200 miles. Thanks for sharing those great photos. I like your spoke reflectors. Reflective tape? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
