Re: [RBW] Homer Hilsen on eBay ~ but FYI...

2014-04-04 Thread Curtis McKenzie
My 2010 Waterford 2TT 67 AHH has two..plenty of room for a growler in
the front basket however.

Ride Safe,

Curtis Ride a bike to ride a bike McKenzie

On Thursday, April 3, 2014, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think a Country Bike needs a minimum of three! :)

 On Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:39:45 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:

 Good looking Homer on eBay but I didn't see 3 water bottle mounts so I
 emailed the seller and he confirmed that it only has 2. Just looking to
 pass along the info to any interested party.

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Re: [RBW] Ideal AHH Wheelset

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Fleischman
Thanks for the thoughts.  I think I will swap over the wheels this 
weekend.  I will need to change cassettes due to the gearings, but that 
should not be too difficult.

 I do love having dynamo lighting and I love my Phil Wood rear cassette.  

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

2014-04-04 Thread Anton Tutter
I have a Berthoud touring saddle and several Brooks Pros.  I have come to 
prefer the Berthoud, but still ride other bikes with Brooks and don't 
really have complaints.

The Berthoud leather is thicker, harder (I like a firm saddle), and flatter 
than the leather on a Brooks Pro. The Berthoud performs best for me when 
completely horizontal, while the Brooks performs best with the nose canted 
up slightly.

FWIW, both the Berthoud and the Brooks Pro are used on bikes with the hbars 
set slightly below saddle level.  For setups with the bars at or above 
saddle height, I prefer a wider saddle like a B17 with the nose canted up.

Anton



On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 1:07:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell 
 they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, 
 sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles 
 also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS: B68 Saddle, Tires: 700 and 26 Dureme

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
B68 Saddle is sold! Here is what remains: 

Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700 x 50mm: 1 pair 700, new in boxes $80 for the 
pair 
Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 26 x 2: 1 pair 26, minimal wear (was on my 
daughter's bike and she weighs near nothing). Center mold nibs intact. $50 
for the pair.

Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157643381675173/

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

2014-04-04 Thread Mike On A Bike
Yeah, I was far too premature in my whining about the Barlows not being a 
true 38mm tire. That's awesome that they've filled out and ride 
fantastically! I'll be mounting a pair once I leave my glass-strewn 
southern city for the PNW!

On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 2:30:08 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Followup, I followed Rob's pressure seating technique and they have, 
 indeed, grown to nearly the book size, coming up at 37mm and change. As I 
 may have mentioned before, I'm not miffed or disappointed necessarily, and 
 now that I know it's a bit of a black art it makes total sense. I should 
 also mention that they ride great and look spiffy.


 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, rperks perk...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 Chris,
 I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, 
 hopefully a bit more.  One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them 
 up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night.  This works 90% or more 
 of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds.  We 
 ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black 
 art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout 
 the tire run.  So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the 
 full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm 

 Rob


 On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.

 I'm gonna go out for a ride.

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[RBW] What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread Esteban
The New York Times has an Op-Doc telling the story of a local San Diego 
resident who skates in slow motion along the boardwalk. You may have 
already seen it. I posted about it here, including a link to the 16 minute 
documentary:

http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/moving-forward/

I'm not sure why, but I wrote it for you all and wanted to share the video 
with this group as soon as I saw it. Why?

It reminded me of Just Ride - you don't need to give everything up to get a 
little stoke in your life. Just ride around the block during a 15 minute 
break from whatever else you are doing. 


Well, it gets really interesting around 8:45. There, Slomo talks about the 
neuroscience of forward motion. I don't know enough about neuroscience to 
call it out as BS, but its still a great story. Maybe that's one of the 
reasons why bike riding is so fun? Why do I feel my friendships formed 
through sharing bike rides are so strong? Maybe because we are experiencing 
stoke together. Seth Vidal is right. Enjoy.

Regards!
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: FS: B68 Saddle, Tires: 700 and 26 Dureme

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
26 Duremes sold, pending payment. Thank you!

Sole remaining item:
Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700 x 50mm: 1 pair 700, new in boxes $80 for the 
pair 

Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157643381675173/

With abandon,
Patrick


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[RBW] Re: What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
From what I know of neuro science, the explanation he gives from 8:45-11:15 
is accurate as far as it goes. What he doesn't talk about (but likely 
could, given his background) is proprioception (body awareness of location 
and motion through space, which is much the same effect via other 
mechanisms throughout the body. Ironically, I think that is why I like 
trail riding in a different way than long gravel grinding rides -- they 
stimulate different aspects of ourselves. I love them both, and crave them 
both, and they both help my brain, but in different ways. Our feet are one 
of the keys to a grounding baseline for our body's awareness in space. 
The more padding and support we give our feet, the weaker they become and 
the blinder our body becomes.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, April 4, 2014 9:08:51 AM UTC-6, Esteban wrote:

 The New York Times has an Op-Doc telling the story of a local San Diego 
 resident who skates in slow motion along the boardwalk. You may have 
 already seen it. I posted about it here, including a link to the 16 minute 
 documentary:

 http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/moving-forward/

 I'm not sure why, but I wrote it for you all and wanted to share the video 
 with this group as soon as I saw it. Why?

 It reminded me of Just Ride - you don't need to give everything up to get 
 a little stoke in your life. Just ride around the block during a 15 minute 
 break from whatever else you are doing. 


 Well, it gets really interesting around 8:45. There, Slomo talks about the 
 neuroscience of forward motion. I don't know enough about neuroscience to 
 call it out as BS, but its still a great story. Maybe that's one of the 
 reasons why bike riding is so fun? Why do I feel my friendships formed 
 through sharing bike rides are so strong? Maybe because we are experiencing 
 stoke together. Seth Vidal is right. Enjoy.

 Regards!
 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.


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[RBW] Re: What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
I forgot to say thanks for sharing this (clearly I need to go ride some 
more!). Sometimes I wonder how much my running and biking is actually 
therapy vs. me just having fun, especially when I can only get out for 
15-20 minutes because that's all the brain energy I have. I intellectually 
know that having fun is an ideal way to heal, but there is still that 
nagging voice. Always good to see another nutter! Grin. So, thank you, 
Esteban, for sharing it.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread Cecily Walker
Thanks for sharing this, Esteban. Dr. Kitchin is an inspiration. 

On Friday, April 4, 2014 8:08:51 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:

 The New York Times has an Op-Doc telling the story of a local San Diego 
 resident who skates in slow motion along the boardwalk. You may have 
 already seen it. I posted about it here, including a link to the 16 minute 
 documentary:

 http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/moving-forward/

 I'm not sure why, but I wrote it for you all and wanted to share the video 
 with this group as soon as I saw it. Why?

 It reminded me of Just Ride - you don't need to give everything up to get 
 a little stoke in your life. Just ride around the block during a 15 minute 
 break from whatever else you are doing. 


 Well, it gets really interesting around 8:45. There, Slomo talks about the 
 neuroscience of forward motion. I don't know enough about neuroscience to 
 call it out as BS, but its still a great story. Maybe that's one of the 
 reasons why bike riding is so fun? Why do I feel my friendships formed 
 through sharing bike rides are so strong? Maybe because we are experiencing 
 stoke together. Seth Vidal is right. Enjoy.

 Regards!
 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Seatpost, Cranks, Cantis, Brake Levers, Pedals

2014-04-04 Thread David Banzer
Everything is sold. 
Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: fs: Bridgestone RB-1 frameset + Ritchey stem/Nitto bar combo

2014-04-04 Thread Eric
Did I say $400?! I meant $375 shipped!

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:46:47 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:

 For sale is one Bridgestone RB-1 framese plus some extras. 

 This is a 54.5cm frameset (w/ 55cm top tube). Lots of rough spots on the 
 paint but still in loveable condition, see photos. No dings/dents. Comes 
 with Shimano BB. Also comes with very cool Ritchey Force stem (120mm) and 
 Nitto 165 bars (42cm)

 $400 PayPal'd/shipped.

 http://postimg.org/image/qytir8yzf/


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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

2014-04-04 Thread Evan Baird
That's pretty typical of Panaracer's casing. I've found I need to give 
myself a bit of extra clearance when I set up fenders with a new set of 
tires or they'll start to rub after a couple weeks.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 7:47:23 AM UTC-7, Mike On A Bike wrote:

 Yeah, I was far too premature in my whining about the Barlows not being a 
 true 38mm tire. That's awesome that they've filled out and ride 
 fantastically! I'll be mounting a pair once I leave my glass-strewn 
 southern city for the PNW!

 On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 2:30:08 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Followup, I followed Rob's pressure seating technique and they have, 
 indeed, grown to nearly the book size, coming up at 37mm and change. As I 
 may have mentioned before, I'm not miffed or disappointed necessarily, and 
 now that I know it's a bit of a black art it makes total sense. I should 
 also mention that they ride great and look spiffy.


 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:46 PM, rperks perk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, 
 hopefully a bit more.  One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them 
 up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night.  This works 90% or more 
 of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds.  We 
 ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black 
 art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout 
 the tire run.  So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the 
 full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm 

 Rob


 On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.

 I'm gonna go out for a ride.

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[RBW] What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread hsmitham
Estanban

On my way to soak in one of the lesser but exquisite valleys in Death Valley 
National Park.
...glad to see a new post and look forward to reading your thoughts  watching 
the video.  

-Hughgoing off gridSmitham 

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[RBW] Ideal AHH Wheelset

2014-04-04 Thread hsmitham
+1 what Patrick wrote.

-Hugh

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[RBW] SOLD: 27 wheelset; Campy NR hubs, Super Champion Gentleman 81 rims, DT spokes, Jim Langley Built Tough, Suntour 6spd FW

2014-04-04 Thread Andrew Letton
Sold!
Thank you,
Andrew




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Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: FS: 27 wheelset; Campy NR hubs, Super Champion Gentleman 81 rims, 
DT spokes, Jim Langley Built Tough, Suntour 6spd FW 
 


Price drop to $150.
Moving soon...gotta' move 'em out...
thanks,
Andrew



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:01 AM
Subject: FS: 27 wheelset; Campy NR hubs, Super Champion Gentleman 81 rims, DT 
spokes, Jim Langley Built Tough, Suntour 6spd FW
 


FS: A very nice 27 wheelset

- Campy NR 36 hole hubs that came on my first real bike and are vintage 
1971, with straight quick release levers, smooth bearings
- Rims are Super Champion Gentleman 81 rims running perfectly true, minimal 
sidewall wear
- 14 gauge DT stainless spokes
- Built for me by Jim Langley himself, including his Built Tough stickers
- includes a 13-21 Suntour 6spd FW
- includes Specialized 27x1 Turbo S tires, but they're so old that they 
are probably not good for much more than protecting the rims during 
shipping. (They do hold air.)

- A bit dirty from being in storage for many years.

$200 firm, plus shipping.
SF Bay Area meet up preferred.  I live in the Santa Cruz Mountains and work in 
Scotts Valley. 

Photos possible for serious buyers.  Please reply off-list.


Thanks for reading...

cheers,Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideal AHH Wheelset

2014-04-04 Thread Matt Lynch
Chris - I can't keep up.  Didn't you just put on a pair of Clement MSO's ?  
I was looking forward to a report.

Matt

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:18:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:


 I went on a slightly longer ride on the barlow pass tires, and oh my, they 
 sing!




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[RBW] WTB: Betty Foy 58 or 60

2014-04-04 Thread sancruz
My wife and I are looking for the perfect bike to fit a child seat to that we 
can share between us. We're both excited to get our 1 year old out this summer! 
 I had found a guy that was going to sell his 60cm Betty Foy frameset, which 
would have worked perfectly, but the deal fell through. I have most of the 
parts to build a frame up, so I'm taking a shot in the dark, hoping someone 
here is looking to upgrade to a Cheviot and would like to sell me their 58cm or 
60cm Betty frameset. 

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[RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Jeff Ong
So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional road 
type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are mountain 
bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that I've added 
rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe Marathons, 
and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who 
knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My 
idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in 
Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with 
a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform 
pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters, 
bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and 
ahs over it, etc.

The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig, 
wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get 
terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried 
to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm 
out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough 
mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think 
this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is 
a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to 
compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike 
isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my 
bikes are around that weight or heavier.

Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is 
there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and 
ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier 
and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm 
tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights 
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB: Betty Foy 58 or 60

2014-04-04 Thread Abcyclehank
I have a 60 frame please contact me off list.

Ryan too many projects in the works Hankinson

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
You do have a problem! I love my later edition blue Ram, also 58 (I'm 2
shorter but mostly shorter in the legs) and, while the Ram doesn't feel as
spritely as my 2 remaining customs (tho' the Parigi Roubaix tires help make
up for that) it is hardly piggish and it does encourage energetic riding.

I've found that weight doesn't always mean feels faster. I owned a bike a
couple of years ago that the two previous owners sold because (I am
extrapolating) it felt sluggish to them -- didn't plane. The first time I
got on it, it felt as if it just fit and wanted to go. It was rather a
tank with f and r racks and fenders and lights; heavier than the Ram but
not by much. And it had mediocre tires -- IRC Tandems.

The Ram also fit right away and feels as, or almost, as fast, even though
I guess the geometry is quite different -- medium versus low trail. It
certainly has better tires.

From these experiences, and from experience with other bikes, I tend to
think that a frame's geometry can complement or resist one's body type,
preferred setup, and customary riding style, so that some bikes just feel
faster because they fit better -- regardless of tires, tubing, weight,
and paint color. This is a guess, but my experience to support it has been
remarkably consistent.

Another thought: I rode that earlier bike (an old Herse) first with 32 mm
Pasela Tourguards, and *those* were pigs. Even the scavenged IRC Tandems
felt much better. Perhaps you should try better tires?

Or  just ride??? (Just kidding.)


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jeff Ong jeffongdes...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters,
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig,
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
That's an interesting impression of the Rambouillet.  Not one I've heard 
before, but certainly open it.  

I guess the quick answer is Yeah. Sure.  Of course it's possible you and a 
2001 Rivendell Rambouillet aren't cut out for one another.

But, it's an interesting situation, to be sure.  

You say you have a lot of bikes.  Which one steers and accelerates the way 
you like?  The Bizango? 

Depending upon what type of tires you have rigged on that, there would 
certainly be a perceived difference between a 700C/622 wheelset and a 
26/559.  So, there's that. And depending upon what fork you are running - 
I sort of recall the Bizangos came with a Judy or some similar 
long-for-the-time travel fork.  And if you replaced that with a rigid type, 
that might give some very different front end behaviors than you are used 
to.  Sizing sounds in the ballpark, though it depends upon your leg 
length/inseam more than height.  That's roughly what I'd ride, though my 
pbh is in the 85 range.   The pedal strike thing is a bit odd, though if 
you have thick platforms, that will make a difference. 

I mean, if you hate riding it, why not get rid of it?

If you want to try some things, you might drop the bars slightly, which 
would give it more of a lightweight road feel.   As far as the 
wallowing... again, not sure that would ever be a word I use on RBW 
handling.  When I use that, I mean that it tends to become imprecise when I 
turn.  My experience with Rivs is that they come out of a turn and let me 
know that I could have brought more speed into it.  Extremely predictable 
for me.  

The only thing you might try before selling it off would be to only ride 
that bike for a week or two.  I will say that when I switch between riding 
my Quickbeam and my Hilsen, there's a time or two when it feels not quite 
right - but it's a fine difference.  It might just be that if you spend 
85% of the time on your Voodoo, and then hope onto the Ram (or any bike), 
the combined differences really put you off.  When I made the change from 
my first mtb - a long wheelbase, west-coast geometry bike - to my 
second, it felt short and twitchy.  Then I found how it liked to be ridden, 
started trusting the new geometry a bit more and went from there. 

Don't know if that helps, but best of luck with your process.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com


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Re: [RBW] Re: Ideal AHH Wheelset

2014-04-04 Thread Chris Chen
Oh yeah those were great too, but I didn't take them off the paved stuff
too much. Very plush, pretty fast!

I'm fickle these days with components so you probably shouldn't depend on
me for much of anything regarding deep and thoughtful feedback.

o shiny


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 Chris - I can't keep up.  Didn't you just put on a pair of Clement MSO's
 ?  I was looking forward to a report.

 Matt


 On Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:18:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:


 I went on a slightly longer ride on the barlow pass tires, and oh my,
 they sing!


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread IanA
My commuter is set up similarly to your Bizango.  It's an old Rocky 
Mountain, has 26 wheels and drop bars.  I also have a LongLow which is a 
similar bike to the Rambouillet.  The Rocky is quick handling, incredibly 
stable at any speed, has a high BB and can be pedaled through just about 
any turn, can be loaded with two weeks of groceries and still behave 
perfectly.  It is also heavier and solid and does not plane.

When getting on the LongLow, the first few minutes/couple of hours of the 
ride, I also pedal strike.  It also seems to wallow from the front end. 
 After I'm used to it again, it feels right and good and it is a bike that 
can be ridden long distances seeming to work with the rider, whereas the 
Rocky would be a poor choice as a brevet bike.  If I rode the LongLow every 
day and then jumped on the Rocky, I'd be looking behind to see what I was 
towing.  

As a shorter distance commuter (say up to 8 miles each way), those old 26 
wheel mountain bikes are tough to beat, especially if the road surface is 
not great.  They are a lot of fun to ride.  If my commute was 12 miles each 
way, the Rocky would spend more time at home though.

Ian A/Canada



On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:44:27 AM UTC-6, Jeff Ong wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional 
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are 
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that 
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe 
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who 
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My 
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in 
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with 
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform 
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters, 
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and 
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig, 
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get 
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried 
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm 
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough 
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think 
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is 
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to 
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike 
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my 
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is 
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and 
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier 
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm 
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights 
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

2014-04-04 Thread Steven Frederick
It's hard to let any of them go but it makes sense (to me, no great
indicator) to sell the one that's easiest to replace...

Good luck!


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Karen Yuen buckyy...@gmail.com wrote:

 And you're right - I hadn't thought of selling the Homer instead.

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
In the vein of I have a hammer so everything's a nail I am in the process 
of shifting cockpit arrangement, having already shifted tires, to match the 
riding I do (gravel grind and single track). Rivendells are so flexible in 
how you can set them up and the same frame really does ride very 
differently just switching tires and making changes to the cockpit. So I 
second Patrick's tire recommendation to get a tire that matches how you 
ride and add in the cockpit suggestion.

Perhaps give Riv a call, tell them how you ride, your PBH (that matters 
more than height, then height gives the upper portion ratio) and they can 
make suggestions for stem tip/length and handlebar setup to consider. They 
really are fantastic, and heaven knows I pester them far more than they 
deserve! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:44:27 AM UTC-6, Jeff Ong wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional 
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are 
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that 
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe 
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who 
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My 
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in 
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with 
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform 
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters, 
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and 
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig, 
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get 
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried 
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm 
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough 
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think 
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is 
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to 
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike 
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my 
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is 
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and 
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier 
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm 
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights 
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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[RBW] 55 Cheviot and 700c

2014-04-04 Thread jandrews_nyc
Do you think it would be possible to run 700c wheels on a 650b 55cm Cheviot?
I imagine the frame isn't designed for it so it's a bad idea, but those 
chainstays are longer and maybe it would be fine.
Any thoughts?
thanks
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[RBW] Liesl's Custom arrives in Minneapolis on ~April 10

2014-04-04 Thread Liesl
Hey friends, work's been busy, I've been outta town, and we just got a dump 
of about 6 of cement-like spring snow. What a cheery thing, then, to talk 
to Will at Riv, go through the final invoice lists for the parts, and get 
the UPS shipping notice!  The little custom appaloosa is slated to be 
shipped to my place of work on April 10.  I'll keep all posted on a Twin 
Cities Debut date, time, and locale.  Maybe a nice casual ride through the 
river trails.  Who knows, there might even be free rides for the wee folk!

grinning with anticipation,
RCW


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[RBW] Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread David Banzer
Howdy!
Figured some folks here might have an answer from direct experience with 
this...
I have Sugino XD cranks, that I want to use with a single 42t chainring 
that'll be going on my Redwood.
What bottom bracket width would I use if...
42t chainring is in the outer position; OR
42t chainring is in the middle position with a guard on the outer position

I'll give Riv a ring if I can't find a suitable answer, but figured a 
buncha people here might be able to help me.
Thanks,
David
Chicago


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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread Jim M.
On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 What bottom bracket width would I use if...
 42t chainring is in the outer position; OR
 42t chainring is in the middle position with a guard on the outer position

 I've used the XD as a double and triple with a 110 spindle. With a single 
ring on the outer, I imagine you could use a 107 if you're aim is to get it 
as narrow as possible.

jim  m
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[RBW] Re: 55 Cheviot and 700c

2014-04-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
You can run 700c wheels on any 650B Rivendell with caliper brakes.  You'll 
need to run short reach brakes and skinny tires.  No fenders unless you run 
very skinny tires.  

On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:28:20 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote:

 Do you think it would be possible to run 700c wheels on a 650b 55cm 
 Cheviot?
 I imagine the frame isn't designed for it so it's a bad idea, but those 
 chainstays are longer and maybe it would be fine.
 Any thoughts?
 thanks
 Jason



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[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

2014-04-04 Thread john

I'm loving my berthoud saddle (Aspin, which is their touring model I 
believe.) It's 155mm wide, which is narrower than the brooks b-17 it 
replaced. The leather is definitely thick and the plastic, while 
off-putting to some, is rock solid great stuff. I'm a light guy (150 pounds 
at 6' tall). I mention this because if all their saddles are the same, it 
will take a long long time to break the saddle to the butt. For me, I 
needed about 500 miles until it was okay; I needed 1000 miles until I 
really loved it. As others have mentioned, the saddle should be level (I 
actually used a level to level mine). It's amazing how micro-changes in 
tilt really affect the feel of this saddle. If you're a rider who wants a 
narrower saddle than the venerable b-17, and you're willing to pay for 
quality leather craftsmanship, the Berthoud is a good choice.


On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:07:09 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell 
 they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, 
 sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles 
 also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread ted
Philip, pray tell what are the tooth counts on your dingle and rings, and 
what % grade are the climbs you ride?

On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:38:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I think riding my Quickbeam fixed on singletrack is fantastic fun. 
 You'd be looking at cyclocross tires for the most part. David is right on 
 with the clearance maxing out a bit over 40mm. I think I have my tire size 
 greed under control now, but it's been 10 years of trimming side knobs and 
 picking gears and chain length to get the over-fat tires centered right at 
 the widest spot in the chain stays. Choosing narrower knibblies will let 
 you move the axle further, which is going to give you easier gearing 
 options.
 Off-road is when you're going to like the ability to roll a second gear 
 for climbing! I really like the single sided switch - two rings, Dingle 
 cog, quick release hub. Dismount, release the QR, slide the wheel forward, 
 lightly reengage the QR. Shift the chain to the smaller ring or cog 
 (depending on the gear your changing to), get the chain started on the 
 bigger ring or cog, and roll the bike forward. Undo the QR, tension the 
 chain, snug up the QR and ride away. Super fast, like 15 seconds.
 Especially if you have a Hunqapillar for geared fatter tired gear hauling, 
 but even if it's your only woodsmobile, I think you'd have great fun on a 
 Quickbeam.
 I don't know how you'd like the buzzing of a White Industries freewheel; 
 the Shimano ones are quieter. Fixed is quietest of all. I think the flared 
 drops we discussed elsethread are a perfect match for a Quickbeam. Once I 
 put the WTB drops on, I've never taken them off.

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[RBW] FS- platrack, slickersack, tires, pedals

2014-04-04 Thread Coconutbill
Hello folks, I have to sell a few things to fund the building of a fancy 
fork  

Platrack / Slickersack (bundle) - $222 
Panaracer Fire XC Pro / pair  - virtually unriden.  26'' x 2.1 - $45
Cannondale platform pedals with reflectors-  $15
MKS sneaker pedals (plenty of scratches)  - $15

thanks! I'm happy to send pictures per request.
Prices are sort of a guestimate. make me an offer if you so desire. 





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[RBW] Re: 55 Cheviot and 700c

2014-04-04 Thread Joe Bernard
One of the staff at Riv reverse engineered a Hilsen that way. It's a neat 
trick for putting spindly-light racer wheels on a lovely lugged bicycle. 
You also get to use spindly-light Campy skeleton brakes if you'd like. 
You're limited to skinny tires (which is kind of the idea here), so the 
absolute wheel-and-tire diameter will be pretty close to the 650B's.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:28:20 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote:

 Do you think it would be possible to run 700c wheels on a 650b 55cm 
 Cheviot?
 I imagine the frame isn't designed for it so it's a bad idea, but those 
 chainstays are longer and maybe it would be fine.
 Any thoughts?
 thanks
 Jason



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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread rcnute
110 spindle with 135 rear spacing/hub and ring on inside for me.  (Then I 
went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.)

Ryan

On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:55:09 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 Howdy!
 Figured some folks here might have an answer from direct experience with 
 this...
 I have Sugino XD cranks, that I want to use with a single 42t chainring 
 that'll be going on my Redwood.
 What bottom bracket width would I use if...
 42t chainring is in the outer position; OR
 42t chainring is in the middle position with a guard on the outer position

 I'll give Riv a ring if I can't find a suitable answer, but figured a 
 buncha people here might be able to help me.
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago




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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I suspect your Ram looks and feels like a road bike to you, so your brain 
expects it to react like a titanium Merlin or small-tubed '84 Nobillette. 
Which doesn't provide a solution, but might answer the problem..
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 10:44:27 AM UTC-7, Jeff Ong wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional 
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are 
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that 
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe 
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who 
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My 
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in 
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with 
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform 
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters, 
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and 
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig, 
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get 
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried 
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm 
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough 
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think 
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is 
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to 
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike 
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my 
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is 
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and 
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier 
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm 
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights 
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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[RBW] WTT thin gripsters: your *black*, my *dark grey*

2014-04-04 Thread Joe Bunik
Argh! Too late- why didn't I see this coming? - the short batch of
black VP-001 @RBW are gone...

Anybody have a set enroute / recently arrived, and would prefer a NIB
grey set? Let me know.

Thanks!
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread David Banzer
Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom 
bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to 
setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
David

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[RBW] Re: FS: B68 Saddle, Tires: 700 and 26 Dureme

2014-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
26 Duremes paid for so it all down to the stunningly spectacular deal on 
the 700 Duremes:

Sole remaining item:
Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700 x 50mm: 1 pair 700, new in boxes $80 for the 
pair 

Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157643381675173/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? I
wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with
the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main
cruising gear.)

Thanks.

Patrick if narrow is good, narrower is better Moore (who doesn't really
believe that).


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 Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

 That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom
 bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to
 setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
 David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread rcnute
Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or 
so spacer on the drive side.  Whatever it is it was an improvement for me 
for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some 
reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay).

Ryan

On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? I 
 wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with 
 the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main 
 cruising gear.)

 Thanks.

 Patrick if narrow is good, narrower is better Moore (who doesn't really 
 believe that).


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  wrote:

 Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

 That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom 
 bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to 
 setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread Roger
Around 1998, Grant set me up with a Sugino AT and a 115 spindle for use as 
a single (remember when Riv used to sell cool old NOS parts?). I believe I 
used a 3mm spacer to get clearance where the chainring bolts mount. This 
was for use with a 126mm rear hub. I'm not sure if a modern 130/135mm 
spacing would need a little more clearance at the crank.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 4:14:33 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

 That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 bottom 
 bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able to 
 setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Ryan. It looks as if that would be too narrow a setup for the
Fargo's wide stays (even though they are indented). The
chainstay-to-chainstay distance (measuring from the outside of each) is
slightly more than 120 mm; add (2) 12.5-15-mm-thick crankarms and another 5
mm gap per side, and you are up to a minimum - well, as close as makes no
difference to what I've got now, which is just a bit more than160 mm -- I
could use a 110 mm spindle, I suppose but the Q saving would not be worth
the hassle or expense.

Oh well, the wide Q is annoying only for the first 1/2 mile or so.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or
 so spacer on the drive side.  Whatever it is it was an improvement for me
 for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some
 reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay).

 Ryan

 On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q?
 I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with
 the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main
 cruising gear.)

 Thanks.

 Patrick if narrow is good, narrower is better Moore (who doesn't really
 believe that).


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 Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

 That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5
 bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able
 to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Jeff Ong


On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:08:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 You do have a problem! I love my later edition blue Ram, also 58 (I'm 2 
 shorter but mostly shorter in the legs) and, while the Ram doesn't feel as 
 spritely as my 2 remaining customs (tho' the Parigi Roubaix tires help make 
 up for that) it is hardly piggish and it does encourage energetic riding.

 I've found that weight doesn't always mean feels faster. I owned a bike 
 a couple of years ago that the two previous owners sold because (I am 
 extrapolating) it felt sluggish to them -- didn't plane. The first time I 
 got on it, it felt as if it just fit and wanted to go. It was rather a 
 tank with f and r racks and fenders and lights; heavier than the Ram but 
 not by much. And it had mediocre tires -- IRC Tandems. 

 The Ram also fit right away and feels as, or almost, as fast, even 
 though I guess the geometry is quite different -- medium versus low trail. 
 It certainly has better tires. 

 From these experiences, and from experience with other bikes, I tend to 
 think that a frame's geometry can complement or resist one's body type, 
 preferred setup, and customary riding style, so that some bikes just feel 
 faster because they fit better -- regardless of tires, tubing, weight, 
 and paint color. This is a guess, but my experience to support it has been 
 remarkably consistent.

 Another thought: I rode that earlier bike (an old Herse) first with 32 mm 
 Pasela Tourguards, and *those* were pigs. Even the scavenged IRC Tandems 
 felt much better. Perhaps you should try better tires?

 Or  just ride??? (Just kidding.)


Thanks -- I have thought about using a higher-quality tire before I give 
up, as I've found that makes a pretty big difference in ride quality. I 
built up a set of nice wheels for this bike with some used King hubs, and 
that made a significant improvement, but it's still a pretty un-fun ride. 

I don't think it's a weight issue, as many of my bikes are pretty heavy, 
and don't have the same qualities. 

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Jeff: I took a nice ride on my Ram this afternoon. It is shod with a pair
of Challenge Parigi Roubaix, measuring just shy of 30 mm wide and very
light and supple. While the bike itself doesn't feel as nimble as my
customs (and that may be due largely to the customs' 26 wheels shod with
good road tires) the P-Rs certainly make up much of the difference. I
certainly thought I noticed an improvement over the 35 mm Kojaks that
originally shod the Ram, and the Kojaks are very decent tires.

Please keep us posted on your experiences with new tires.



On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Jeff Ong jeffongdes...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Friday, April 4, 2014 11:08:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 You do have a problem! I love my later edition blue Ram, also 58 (I'm 2
 shorter but mostly shorter in the legs) and, while the Ram doesn't feel as
 spritely as my 2 remaining customs (tho' the Parigi Roubaix tires help make
 up for that) it is hardly piggish and it does encourage energetic riding.

 I've found that weight doesn't always mean feels faster. I owned a bike
 a couple of years ago that the two previous owners sold because (I am
 extrapolating) it felt sluggish to them -- didn't plane. The first time I
 got on it, it felt as if it just fit and wanted to go. It was rather a
 tank with f and r racks and fenders and lights; heavier than the Ram but
 not by much. And it had mediocre tires -- IRC Tandems.

 The Ram also fit right away and feels as, or almost, as fast, even
 though I guess the geometry is quite different -- medium versus low trail.
 It certainly has better tires.

 From these experiences, and from experience with other bikes, I tend to
 think that a frame's geometry can complement or resist one's body type,
 preferred setup, and customary riding style, so that some bikes just feel
 faster because they fit better -- regardless of tires, tubing, weight,
 and paint color. This is a guess, but my experience to support it has been
 remarkably consistent.

 Another thought: I rode that earlier bike (an old Herse) first with 32 mm
 Pasela Tourguards, and *those* were pigs. Even the scavenged IRC Tandems
 felt much better. Perhaps you should try better tires?

 Or  just ride??? (Just kidding.)


 Thanks -- I have thought about using a higher-quality tire before I give
 up, as I've found that makes a pretty big difference in ride quality. I
 built up a set of nice wheels for this bike with some used King hubs, and
 that made a significant improvement, but it's still a pretty un-fun ride.

 I don't think it's a weight issue, as many of my bikes are pretty heavy,
 and don't have the same qualities.

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[RBW] Re: 1971 Hetchins Spyder For Sale - $1800

2014-04-04 Thread Brian Campbell
Should it go that way, I would be interested in the frame/fork/rear rack



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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I run a pretty big gear on the QB when fixed, but do find that you can 
climb better than you'd think. 

There was a site dedicated to this particular pursuit - 63xc.com - which is 
still viewable.   The idea being that a 63 gear is a nice place to start 
for most fixed trail riding.  There are some good references and 
experiences on that site.

Before using the fixed setup off road, I had set up gearing my singlespeed 
mtb a bit higher than the 2:1 you generally see recommended, so I was 
already a bit used to pushing a big gear on trails.   But, then again, I 
definitely get off and rest, get off and push, and lapse into 
Tourette's/Sailor level of cursing from time to time.  It is part of my 
practice, though.  So, use only what makes sense to you.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com





On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:18:03 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:

 Philip, pray tell what are the tooth counts on your dingle and rings, and 
 what % grade are the climbs you ride?

 On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:38:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I think riding my Quickbeam fixed on singletrack is fantastic fun. 
 You'd be looking at cyclocross tires for the most part. David is right on 
 with the clearance maxing out a bit over 40mm. I think I have my tire size 
 greed under control now, but it's been 10 years of trimming side knobs and 
 picking gears and chain length to get the over-fat tires centered right at 
 the widest spot in the chain stays. Choosing narrower knibblies will let 
 you move the axle further, which is going to give you easier gearing 
 options.
 Off-road is when you're going to like the ability to roll a second gear 
 for climbing! I really like the single sided switch - two rings, Dingle 
 cog, quick release hub. Dismount, release the QR, slide the wheel forward, 
 lightly reengage the QR. Shift the chain to the smaller ring or cog 
 (depending on the gear your changing to), get the chain started on the 
 bigger ring or cog, and roll the bike forward. Undo the QR, tension the 
 chain, snug up the QR and ride away. Super fast, like 15 seconds.
 Especially if you have a Hunqapillar for geared fatter tired gear 
 hauling, but even if it's your only woodsmobile, I think you'd have great 
 fun on a Quickbeam.
 I don't know how you'd like the buzzing of a White Industries freewheel; 
 the Shimano ones are quieter. Fixed is quietest of all. I think the flared 
 drops we discussed elsethread are a perfect match for a Quickbeam. Once I 
 put the WTB drops on, I've never taken them off.

 Philip
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Daume
If it's any consolation, I felt much the same way about my Romulus.
Possibly partly this was due to the Pasela TG tires, which are generally
accepted to be dogs. Regardless, I sold it and don't miss it a bit (even
after many bikes have come and gone since then, see:
http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-history-of-my-road-and-cross-bikes.html
)

Eric Daume
Dublin, OH


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Jeff Ong jeffongdes...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters,
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig,
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s)
and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But
a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer
steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I
owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough
to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills
easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm
cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog).

The 63 XC site has some interesting features including one about the
conversion of a KHS track bike into a 559-wheeled all rounder and the old
British man who makes extremely powerful drum brakes.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I run a pretty big gear on the QB when fixed, but do find that you can
 climb better than you'd think.

 There was a site dedicated to this particular pursuit - 63xc.com - which
 is still viewable.   The idea being that a 63 gear is a nice place to
 start for most fixed trail riding.  There are some good references and
 experiences on that site.

 Before using the fixed setup off road, I had set up gearing my singlespeed
 mtb a bit higher than the 2:1 you generally see recommended, so I was
 already a bit used to pushing a big gear on trails.   But, then again, I
 definitely get off and rest, get off and push, and lapse into
 Tourette's/Sailor level of cursing from time to time.  It is part of my
 practice, though.  So, use only what makes sense to you.

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com





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Re: [RBW] What does rollerblading in slow motion have to do with Rivendell and riding?

2014-04-04 Thread Eunice Chang
I can't watch the video- it isn't captioned, so I don't know the details,
but I get the gist of it.

For what it's worth, I ride my bike first thing in the morning if I can,
and it's usually the only time I get to ride. I just go to the coffee shop,
fill my thermos, and go outside and watch the sun rise or people going in
and out and have a small cup (it's a big thermos). Sometimes I write,
sometimes I just sit there, sometimes I read the poem of the day in
writer's almanac.

Seth was the one who did the coffee ride- he'd ride every morning to bring
us coffee, and he'd try to do it daily with exception of some very frigid
mornings (he's a Southern boy after all). Sometimes it would be his only
ride the whole day. I thought I'd try it out, and I've found a route that
works for me (low key, very little traffic, wide roads, some hills). It's
only 2 miles total, but it is definitely my happy place. When I ride to the
coffeeshop, I ride into the sunrise, and when I'm ready to go back, the sun
is behind me and has warmed me up. Most mornings I feel like singing at top
of my lungs (though I stay quiet out of respect for my neighbors).

And always, I feel like I'm riding with Seth when I ride my bike. I get to
see dogs being walked, say hi to my neighbors, watch flights of birds, try
not to run over inexperienced baby squirrels, and see the trees in bloom
(currently, dogwoods, redbuds, magnolias, though thankfully, bradford pears
are done for now). Soon it will be honeysuckle and jessamine time. I'm
beginning to understand why he liked the morning rides.

And no, there's no reason to ride to the coffeeshop other than that it
feels like a sacred ritual that is both fun and invigorating and well, just
brings me joy. The rare, unadulterated kind of joy that can coexist with
the ever-present grief. And I'll always have Seth to thank for that (he
taught me to ride a bike uhmm, 9 years ago).

Enjoy the ride.

-Eunice




On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

 The New York Times has an Op-Doc telling the story of a local San Diego
 resident who skates in slow motion along the boardwalk. You may have
 already seen it. I posted about it here, including a link to the 16 minute
 documentary:

 http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/moving-forward/

 I'm not sure why, but I wrote it for you all and wanted to share the video
 with this group as soon as I saw it. Why?

 It reminded me of Just Ride - you don't need to give everything up to get
 a little stoke in your life. Just ride around the block during a 15 minute
 break from whatever else you are doing.


 Well, it gets really interesting around 8:45. There, Slomo talks about the
 neuroscience of forward motion. I don't know enough about neuroscience to
 call it out as BS, but its still a great story. Maybe that's one of the
 reasons why bike riding is so fun? Why do I feel my friendships formed
 through sharing bike rides are so strong? Maybe because we are experiencing
 stoke together. Seth Vidal is right. Enjoy.

 Regards!
 Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:


I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 
170s) and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even 
worse. But a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long 
hills, and fewer steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on 
the Monocog 29er I owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth 
surfaces but was low enough to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and 
to climb long, gradual hills easily, and to climb short, steep hills 
with a sufficient effort. 170 mm cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, 
with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog).




60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right? Now 
that is sensitivity 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Pea for sure.



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[RBW] Re: fs: Bridgestone RB-1 frameset + Ritchey stem/Nitto bar combo

2014-04-04 Thread Eric
SOLD

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 9:46:47 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:

 For sale is one Bridgestone RB-1 framese plus some extras. 

 This is a 54.5cm frameset (w/ 55cm top tube). Lots of rough spots on the 
 paint but still in loveable condition, see photos. No dings/dents. Comes 
 with Shimano BB. Also comes with very cool Ritchey Force stem (120mm) and 
 Nitto 165 bars (42cm)

 $400 PayPal'd/shipped.

 http://postimg.org/image/qytir8yzf/


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Eric
Jeff, I'm totally with you!

I've had two Rambos and I felt the same way. They were both sold and I 
don't miss them. Don't get me wrong, beautiful bikes but they weren't for 
me. 

Right now I'm actually falling out of love with another Rivendell I own. 
TOTALLY beautiful but it's not the best ride. But I love my Atlantis! 


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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread bo richardson
i love my 54 blue Ram with 700 c wheels. 
I had a 54 Homer with 650 b wheels which i didnt like and niether 
did my riding buddy anne. i really think it was the tires a lot.
i have almost new compass tires on the Ram which i love but they
are hard to repair with a hand pump after they have stretched.

i am getting jack brown blues as a compromise.

i also have a 56 ram which i need to sell
and i wonder if a certain frame may work better
in some sizes than others. My metaphor is the proportions
changing when type fonts are scaled up or down

the 56 has Marathons which trade off pleasure 
for flat protection.

I like the Ram better than my Atlantis
with 26 inch wheels

I like the Atlantis better with compass tires
than with Marathons
but i ride marathons in the winter
compass in the summer and
if i were riding across the us 
i would ride the Atlantis with Schwalbes

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
No doubt a good part of the difference was the shorter cranks. I remember
taking the 60 fixed gear with 175s for the first and only time on a flat,
smooth bike path, for fewer than 5 miles, and getting so frustrated with
the awkward pedaling that very literally the next thing I did with the bike
was to swap in a smaller cog and 170 cranks, which made the bike -- the old
Diamond Back 26er -- a very, very nice ride. The new gear was IIRC about
64.

The later Monocog 29er with the 39X18X29 wheels and 170 road cranks was
also much better.

But crank length apart, yes, I can tell the difference between a 60 gear
and a 63 gear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echQxJZe-wA


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:


 I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s)
 and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But
 a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer
 steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I
 owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough
 to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills
 easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm
 cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog).


 60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right?  Now
 that is sensitivityhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Peafor 
 sure.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread Patrick Moore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echQxJZe-wA

Doubtless part of the difference was the 175 mm cranks but yes, I can tell
the difference.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:


 I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s)
 and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But
 a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer
 steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I
 owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough
 to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills
 easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm
 cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog).


 60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right?  Now
 that is sensitivityhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Peafor 
 sure.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

2014-04-04 Thread ted
That's twice 1.5, which is what one tooth on the ring does, and that's not 
picky. Going up three in front and up one in back takes the gear up .5. Now if 
that were make or break, that might be sensitive. But 3 is certainly not 
trivial. My curiosity is because the climbs in my local open space have my 
diving to gears several 10s of inches lower than what I typically run on my 
simple one. I suspect we're I to go up there with the SO I'd be walking 
basically the whole way up, even if I had a dingle and two rings.

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[RBW] FS- platrack, slickersack, tires, pedals

2014-04-04 Thread Coconutbill
Im not so good at this. Maybe $150 is a better price for the bag/rack combo. 

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet conundrum

2014-04-04 Thread Jim Bronson
I sold off a 68cm Rambouillet frame about 8 or 9 years ago, without ever
building it up.  The top tube just looked way too short and I was much less
experienced with bikes then.  Kind of regret never at least building it up
and trying it.  It was so pretty in that orange color!


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Jeff Ong jeffongdes...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I've got a lot of bikes and zero cars. Only two are conventional
 road type bikes (a 2004 Merlin Fortius and an '84 Nobillette). Many are
 mountain bikes, and my daily rider/commuter is a 1995 Voodoo Bizango that
 I've added rack/fender eyelets to, converted to drops and 2 inch Schwalbe
 Marathons, and basically made into a sort of Atlantis type ride.

 About a year ago, I bought a secondhand (or third- or fourth-hand, who
 knows?) Rambouillet (from the first run of framesets, in pearl orange). My
 idea was to have a sporty road/light tourer with fenders, since I live in
 Portland, where it drizzles seven months of the year. I built this up with
 a pretty Riv-like collection of stuff -- a VO triple crankset, platform
 pedals, some nice wheels and Pasela 28s, Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters,
 bars a bit above saddle height, etc. It's super pretty, everyone oohs and
 ahs over it, etc.

 The problem is, I kind of hate riding it. It just steers like a pig,
 wallowing through turns, and it feels super slow to accelerate. I get
 terrible pedal strike unless I coast around every turn. I've really tried
 to get used to the ride, but I always find myself getting angry when I'm
 out on the bike... like hurry up, man! come on! I'm a decent enough
 mechanic to know that there isn't anything mechanically wrong. I do think
 this bike is bigger on me than I generally ride -- I'm 6' tall and this is
 a 58cm, and generally I ride smaller than that, although it's difficult to
 compare compact frames against this more traditional geometry. The bike
 isn't super light (27 lbs or so with fenders and racks), but many of my
 bikes are around that weight or heavier.

 Am I just not cut out for Riv-type geometry? Is it poorly fit to me? Is
 there something about the Rambouillet that just makes it slow-steering and
 ponderous? I would love to swap out this frameset with something livelier
 and more fun to ride (but that can still take racks and fenders with 28mm
 tires), and I'm just hoping to not make the same mistake. Any insights
 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino XD Single Chainring Bottom Bracket Width.

2014-04-04 Thread rcnute
Amended answer, 150mm.

Ryan

On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:06:33 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:

 Patrick: I think it's somewhere around the mid to upper 140s with a 2mm or 
 so spacer on the drive side.  Whatever it is it was an improvement for me 
 for riding fixed, though I don't mind a wider Q-factor when geared for some 
 reason (lower 150s is perfect but up to 160 okay).

 Ryan

 On Friday, April 4, 2014 5:02:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 If either of you switch to the ~122/AT, can you tell me the resulting Q? 
 I wonder if a similar switch would cut a cm or so off the current ~160 with 
 the X2D/Phil 113. (The 113 does give a perfect chain line in the main 
 cruising gear.)

 Thanks.

 Patrick if narrow is good, narrower is better Moore (who doesn't really 
 believe that).


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM, David Banzer daba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Then I went to a Sugino AT with a 122 spindle and ring on the outside.

 That's interesting, I happen to have a Sugino AT and a Tange 122.5 
 bottom bracket sitting in the parts bin right now. Looks like I'll be able 
 to setup the Redwood and go for a ride this weekend.
 David

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