[RBW] Crankset Advice

[Johnny Alien]

So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a list of 
what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I want to do with 
the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but that's about it. I 
don't mind spending some cash but don't want to spend silly money either. 
 My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina that VO used to sell in  48/34. 
 That seems to be gone and there are very few Sugino 48/34 offering and 
most are lower quality.  So if I give up on finding 48/34 my options open 
up a but with the 50/34 group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 
2 which I think is slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant 
in that group that gets really good reviews but also has a very different 
look.  That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which 
sounds very useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road riding 
conditions.

Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34?  IRD, 
Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they get too 
expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30?  Thanks!!

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Scott Henry]

I might recommend not being so focused on buying a complete crankset.
 Just buy the cranks you like and then order the rings in whatever
size you prefer.I'm just building up a new bike and ended up going
with a guide/44/30 on an old SunTour triple crank I had around.

Once I gave up on trying to be fast, I have shifted all my big rings
down to either 44 or 46 teeth.I am fond of either Salsa or Surly
chainrings.   Both are cheap and last a lng time.

Also take a look at just about any cyclocross offering.
Cheers,
Scott

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a list of
> what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I want to do with
> the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but that's about it. I
> don't mind spending some cash but don't want to spend silly money either.
> My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina that VO used to sell in  48/34.
> That seems to be gone and there are very few Sugino 48/34 offering and most
> are lower quality.  So if I give up on finding 48/34 my options open up a
> but with the 50/34 group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 2
> which I think is slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant in
> that group that gets really good reviews but also has a very different look.
> That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which sounds very
> useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road riding conditions.
>
> Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34?  IRD,
> Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they get too
> expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30?  Thanks!!
>
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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Philip Kim]

White industries VBC is nice, but expensive. Otherwise I would just get a 
standard Sugion crank, those last awhile.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:05:38 AM UTC-5, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a list 
> of what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I want to do 
> with the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but that's about it. 
> I don't mind spending some cash but don't want to spend silly money either. 
>  My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina that VO used to sell in  48/34. 
>  That seems to be gone and there are very few Sugino 48/34 offering and 
> most are lower quality.  So if I give up on finding 48/34 my options open 
> up a but with the 50/34 group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 
> 2 which I think is slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant 
> in that group that gets really good reviews but also has a very different 
> look.  That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which 
> sounds very useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road riding 
> conditions.
>
> Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34?  IRD, 
> Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they get too 
> expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30?  Thanks!!
>

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Steve Palincsar]

I'm confident you can set up the Rene Herse double with those ratios.

On 11/10/2015 09:05 AM, Johnny Alien wrote:
So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a 
list of what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I 
want to do with the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but 
that's about it. I don't mind spending some cash but don't want to 
spend silly money either.  My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina 
that VO used to sell in  48/34.  That seems to be gone and there are 
very few Sugino 48/34 offering and most are lower quality.  So if I 
give up on finding 48/34 my options open up a but with the 50/34 
group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 2 which I think is 
slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant in that group 
that gets really good reviews but also has a very different look. 
 That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which 
sounds very useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road 
riding conditions.


Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34? 
 IRD, Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they 
get too expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30? 
 Thanks!!




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[RBW] Re: Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

[Kieran J]

+1 for MEH. Pretty much identical to any other of the zillions of 
boring-arse crabon MAMILmobiles out there.

KJ

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 6:17:34 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Or seem cheap... 
> Compare it to the Merckx 70 
> 
> !
>
>
> It's all relative,
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Johnny Alien]

Those are beautiful cranks, can be gotten in many configurations and it 
super light to boot. It checks off every box but they are as pricey as the 
WI cranks.  I am going to give it a serious look though. Might be worth 
chocking down that cost.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I'm confident you can set up the Rene Herse double with those ratios. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[George Schick]

What about the 48/34 Grand Cru that Velo Orange sells?  I bought one of 
these a few months ago and am well pleased with it.  And, they've got a 
blue light special going on it - slashed the price from $190 to $140 (after 
I'd already bought one, of course).  Can't beat that.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:48:24 AM UTC-6, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> Those are beautiful cranks, can be gotten in many configurations and it 
> super light to boot. It checks off every box but they are as pricey as the 
> WI cranks.  I am going to give it a serious look though. Might be worth 
> chocking down that cost.
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> I'm confident you can set up the Rene Herse double with those ratios. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

[Matt C.]

Sales add:
For $17k you can be a super FRED. All other FREDs must give you a slight bow 
for spending more on your bike than they did on their "FREDlicious" ride. 

Looks like just another reason to ride reasonable bikes. 

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[David Banzer]

+1 to what Scott said. Get a crank without rings if you know exactly what 
chainring configuration you want.
Here's a reasonably priced Sugino option: 
https://www.benscycle.com/p-914-sugino-xd-fixed-gear-crankset.aspx?
While technically a single ring crankset, it can be setup as a double (I've 
done this myself).
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:19:59 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>
> I might recommend not being so focused on buying a complete crankset. 
>  Just buy the cranks you like and then order the rings in whatever 
> size you prefer.I'm just building up a new bike and ended up going 
> with a guide/44/30 on an old SunTour triple crank I had around. 
>
> Once I gave up on trying to be fast, I have shifted all my big rings 
> down to either 44 or 46 teeth.I am fond of either Salsa or Surly 
> chainrings.   Both are cheap and last a lng time. 
>
> Also take a look at just about any cyclocross offering. 
> Cheers, 
> Scott 
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Johnny Alien  > wrote: 
> > So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a list 
> of 
> > what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I want to do 
> with 
> > the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but that's about it. I 
> > don't mind spending some cash but don't want to spend silly money 
> either. 
> > My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina that VO used to sell in 
>  48/34. 
> > That seems to be gone and there are very few Sugino 48/34 offering and 
> most 
> > are lower quality.  So if I give up on finding 48/34 my options open up 
> a 
> > but with the 50/34 group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 2 
> > which I think is slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant 
> in 
> > that group that gets really good reviews but also has a very different 
> look. 
> > That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which sounds 
> very 
> > useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road riding 
> conditions. 
> > 
> > Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34? 
>  IRD, 
> > Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they get too 
> > expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30?  Thanks!! 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Ways to make your Rivendell cheap

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Although the frame is steel, albeit stainless. The fork is carbon.  A bit 
less technodeathstar looking than your average full carbon frame. But you 
still need an elevator to get from the seat to the handlebars...

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:41:24 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> +1 for MEH. Pretty much identical to any other of the zillions of 
> boring-arse crabon MAMILmobiles out there.
>
> KJ
>
> On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 6:17:34 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Or seem cheap... 
>> Compare it to the Merckx 70 
>> 
>> !
>>
>>
>> It's all relative,
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Love the blog posts!!   Good coffee, classy bikes and good company and did 
I mention classy bikes?!   Keep em coming!



On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:13:31 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
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> Hot off the presses.
>
> Here 
> 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Updated Atlantis build, initial Compass tire review

[Mark Reimer]

Yes, they are Velocity Dyad rims. I found mounting them very easy. I didn't 
need tire levers, just rolled on with a little grunt and both thumbs. 
Definitely far from the most difficult tire I've mounted. 

I've had challenges mounting tires to Velocity Deep-V rims, but the tires 
were 23-35mm road tires with some kind of kevlar flat protection. Pretty 
much the absolute worst tire/rim combo. Massive heavy rim and dead lifeless 
kevlar tire. I shudder when I think of riding that again. 

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 10:12:25 PM UTC-6, David Person wrote:
>
> I run the extra light version of the Barlow Pass on my Sam mounted on 
> Grand Bois rims.  One puncture early on due to a glass shard and several 
> due to goat heads.  Now running Mr. Tuffy's liners with no discernible 
> impact on the ride quality.  Have survived half a dozen goat heads at one 
> time in each tire.
>
> David
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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Ron Mc]

A lot of good recommendations on this thread.  
but about the IRD   



how can you not like the looks of a Strada-clone crankset?  

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Ryan Ray]

Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide 
double?

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[David Banzer]

Self-promoting here, but I have a selection of Willow chainrings that would 
fit that. I've set it up as 46/34 and 49/34.
It's a 110 bcd crank, so any 110 bcd chainrings would work.
David
treetop.bigcartel.com

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
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> Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide 
> double?
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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Ron Mc]

110 bcd are not always easy to find, so having David as a source in 
addition to Rivendell (often out of stock) is a good thing.  

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:20:37 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Self-promoting here, but I have a selection of Willow chainrings that 
> would fit that. I've set it up as 46/34 and 49/34.
> It's a 110 bcd crank, so any 110 bcd chainrings would work.
> David
> treetop.bigcartel.com
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>> Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide 
>> double?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Scott Henry]

110 BCD might be hard to find for triplizers, but any shop or online
merchant can get you 110 rings down to 34 teeth.
Origin8 are usually the cheapest ones.  but there are many many out there.
Vuelta has rings on sale right now starting at $19.   You can get them
cheaper if you look, but sometimes its easier to just spend the extra
$5 and be done with it.

http://www.vueltausa.com/components/chainrings/se-chain-ring-110mm-34-60t-972.html

Scott

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
> 110 bcd are not always easy to find, so having David as a source in addition
> to Rivendell (often out of stock) is a good thing.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:20:37 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Self-promoting here, but I have a selection of Willow chainrings that
>> would fit that. I've set it up as 46/34 and 49/34.
>> It's a 110 bcd crank, so any 110 bcd chainrings would work.
>> David
>> treetop.bigcartel.com
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide
>>> double?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Chris! I'll do my best.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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> Love the blog posts!!   Good coffee, classy bikes and good company and did
> I mention classy bikes?!   Keep em coming!
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:13:31 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
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>> Hot off the presses.
>>
>> Here
>> 
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Garth]

 
If you want a top quality Sugino look at the current model Mighty Tour 
, also called the 901D .  You can get just the arms or a complete crank 
with their premium chainrings, not like the cheaper ones of the XD . 
Considering the premium rings in *your preferred choice*(including 48/34 
silver)  I'd say the $264 price is quite reasonable. 

You can get the arms or the complete crank from Japan from this bike shop 
that delivers to the USA . 
http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/fixed-non-njs-1-2-3-4-5-6/sugino-mighty-tour-pcd110-crank.html?currency=USD
http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/road-1-2-3-4-5-6/sugino-mighty-tour-crank-set.html

or the arms in the US from here : 
http://www.bikemania.biz/sugino-mighty-comp-crankarms.html

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Patrick Moore]

110 bcd rings (Sugino particularly) are available from any shop.

As for cranks: the venerable Sugino XD2 is well made, good looking, and
modestly priced. FWIW, I run 38 and 24 rings in the middle and inner
position, with a bash guard on the outside, as a "sub-compact" setup.

XD2s are often posted for sale on this list for cheap.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> 110 bcd are not always easy to find, so having David as a source in
> addition to Rivendell (often out of stock) is a good thing.
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:20:37 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Self-promoting here, but I have a selection of Willow chainrings that
>> would fit that. I've set it up as 46/34 and 49/34.
>> It's a 110 bcd crank, so any 110 bcd chainrings would work.
>> David
>> treetop.bigcartel.com
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide
>>> double?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Tim. Did you try the stock saddle? Any thoughts if so?

I'm curious as to how upright this is going to be. I thought I was kinda 
upright on my Le Tour mixte with albas, and a while back I commuted on a 
Schwinn Suburban for a year. Ditto with a classic Raleigh three speed. But 
these were all relative to a drop bar an inch or more below saddle height. 
Are the Clems are in another league? I guess the Dutch style, which I have 
never really ridden? 

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 10:05:27 PM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:48:32 PM UTC-8, Jonathan in Ri wrote:
> > Thanks for posting pics of the grey. I ordered a complete Clem Smith in 
> the same color. Trying not to get too anxious.
>
> Well, the day finally came and I couldn't be happier. The fit, the colour, 
> the ride!  They nailed this bike. It rolls over everything, climbs 
> surprisingly well, and is silent as can be. Still getting use to the 
> shifters but that'll come. Put a nice Z-shaped scratch down the length of 
> my seat post while setting it up - doh!  
>
> A couple pictures, taken in the evening, sorry for the quality. For any 
> fit reference, my saddle height in these pics is 79cm. My pbh is 90.  I had 
> been worried about standover but it isn't an issue. I measure it at 34.25" 
> with the stock 29x2.0 tires inflated to 40psi. The brochure said 34.75", 
> maybe that is with the max 60c tires?  Either way, I'm able to straddle the 
> bike comfortably at lights. Also the long top tube is not an issue, 
> especially with the boscos. I'm not use to being so upright, and would even 
> consider switching to an albatross or a moustache down the road. 
>
> K, gotta go, off for a night ride!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Matthew J]

Not cheap, but I am a big fan of the TA Carmina 
.  You can get with 110 bcd x 74 
Spider if you want to go triple later.  

Not as pretty, but if you don't think you every want to go triple the TA 
Vortex  is a top quality option 
as well.  Peter's site does not say, but he does sell without rings - or 
with different rings as long as he has in stock. 

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:48:24 AM UTC-6, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> Those are beautiful cranks, can be gotten in many configurations and it 
> super light to boot. It checks off every box but they are as pricey as the 
> WI cranks.  I am going to give it a serious look though. Might be worth 
> chocking down that cost.
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:28:41 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> I'm confident you can set up the Rene Herse double with those ratios. 
>>
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[RBW] Updated Atlantis build, initial Compass tire review

[Ty Graham]

Thanks for the Atlantis update. I wanted to chime in for emphasis. 
I put EL Barlow Pass on my Atlantis as soon as they were available 18 months or 
so ago. I love them. 
When I took my 905 mile Oregon and California trip last year I switched to the 
non-EL version on the recommendation of my mechanic. I'm not sure that was 
necessary, but the non-EL are still a great tire. 
Net net. 905 miles of great riding and no flats. I'm a big guy, the bike was 
lightly loaded since I'm a credit card tourist. Still over 300 lbs with full 
water bottles. 
For me this was the acid test. I'm not likely to try another tire for a long 
time. 

Oh, and I run Dyads. 

Ty
Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Zed Martinez]

Hey Mark,

I can't speak to the stock boscos obviously on my build, but I can say 
there often seems to be some confusion about upright posture and "Dutch" 
style. If you look at an omafiets, you'll see the saddle is rather low, and 
the handlebars quite high and very close. They have rather short top tubes. 
The closest American thing are usually whatever the cheap comfort hybrids 
Trek are offering are. You ride them kind of like a box, I know guys who 
like motorcyles that way. There's no lean because the handlebars are 
already /right there/. It's been my experience with the Clem frame and my 
other long top tube (a 3 speed Simcoe roadster) that the long top tube 
actually is there to keep upright bikes from having that "Dutch" feeling. 
They let you get up and get the weight off your hands while still letting 
you get in just a bit of lean. I like it, a lot. It was actually remarking 
that my Simcoe was the most comfortable bike I'd been on once I raised the 
bars that sold me on the Clem frame when it went up. Long top tube plus 
tall bars is a really nice formula for sitting "upright" without losing 
some of that "active" feeling that a lot of upright bikes do have but not a 
lot of people seem to assume they will. 

Now, the boscos sweep back, so, I imagine the primary grip is rather 
upright, but you have several good ones forwards of that, unlike a 
traditional north roads, say, to alleviate that. With an albastache now on 
a dirt drop stem about 2" from maxed out I'm getting a comfy upright 
position with a little lean back in the wings. If I dropped them a couple 
of inches my posture would be almost the same as it was on my Rivenfried 
80's Fuji, except rotated so less weight was on my hands.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:56:33 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Hi Tim. Did you try the stock saddle? Any thoughts if so?
>
> I'm curious as to how upright this is going to be. I thought I was kinda 
> upright on my Le Tour mixte with albas, and a while back I commuted on a 
> Schwinn Suburban for a year. Ditto with a classic Raleigh three speed. But 
> these were all relative to a drop bar an inch or more below saddle height. 
> Are the Clems are in another league? I guess the Dutch style, which I have 
> never really ridden? 
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 10:05:27 PM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 2:48:32 PM UTC-8, Jonathan in Ri wrote:
>> > Thanks for posting pics of the grey. I ordered a complete Clem Smith in 
>> the same color. Trying not to get too anxious.
>>
>> Well, the day finally came and I couldn't be happier. The fit, the 
>> colour, the ride!  They nailed this bike. It rolls over everything, climbs 
>> surprisingly well, and is silent as can be. Still getting use to the 
>> shifters but that'll come. Put a nice Z-shaped scratch down the length of 
>> my seat post while setting it up - doh!  
>>
>> A couple pictures, taken in the evening, sorry for the quality. For any 
>> fit reference, my saddle height in these pics is 79cm. My pbh is 90.  I had 
>> been worried about standover but it isn't an issue. I measure it at 34.25" 
>> with the stock 29x2.0 tires inflated to 40psi. The brochure said 34.75", 
>> maybe that is with the max 60c tires?  Either way, I'm able to straddle the 
>> bike comfortably at lights. Also the long top tube is not an issue, 
>> especially with the boscos. I'm not use to being so upright, and would even 
>> consider switching to an albatross or a moustache down the road. 
>>
>> K, gotta go, off for a night ride!
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How to clean a Brooks saddle?

[Wayne Naha]

A damp cloth, well wrung out, has always worked for me.  But them I've only 
ever had the black version that doesn't show staining.  If you've got dark 
stains on a lighter colored saddle, I don't know what you'd do.


On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 12:40:23 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Rode my Brooks, shower-capped, in the rain for many ours this weekend. 
> Didn't get soaked, just a little sprinkled at quick stops when cap wasn't 
> on earlier in the day, but spent most of the time under a shower cap. Took 
> off shower cap for the car bike rack ride home.
>
> Next day, I noticed some dirty patches on the leather. Not sure if it is 
> mold or just dirt.
>
> Stuck on good. Cannot rub off with a regular dry towel, and didn't want to 
> wet the saddle.
>
> Anyway, how to clean it off without wetting the saddle?
> Any tricks?
> Or just proofhide it and forget it?
>

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[RBW] Re: Niles Canyon Ride

[Daniel D.]

thanks for the pics.  It was a fun ride with nice folks.  Carless Niles was 
a joy.

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 8:33:36 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> A couple of weeks ago our lovely Niles Canyon that stretches between my 
> quaint little neighborhood of Niles in Fremont, CA and Sunol, CA was 
> closed.  The first day was for Caltrans maintenance but the second day was 
> for a full day Roll and Stroll through the canyon.  There were roving bands 
> of Charlie Chaplains since many a silent movie was shot in the canyon 
> including Chaplain's "The Tramp" and Essenay's Bronco Billy westerns. 
>  There were also people coming in from all over the bay area to enjoy a 
> carless Niles Canyon.  Although Niles Canyon is a popular riding area, it 
> can be a little tight in spots creating the occasional white-knuckle 
> encounter with passing cars so a closed canyon was greeted with great 
> enthusiasm.  A group of Bay Area Riv Riders were meeting in Pleasanton to 
> start their ride to the canyon.  Since I lived in Niles, I rode up to 
> Pleasanton to meet them.  After a slight delay at the Pleasanton BART, the 
> group rolled down Foothill Road to the Pleasanton Ridge State Park where I 
> was waiting to join them.  It was a gorgeous day for a ride in the canyon. 
>  As we rode through the canyon to climb Palomares Road, the Niles Canyon 
> Railway train passed overhead and we were greeted by the waving passengers. 
>  Our Palomares climb was interrupted near the top when we decided to to try 
> the group's first mid-ride wine stop at the Westover Winery in Palomares 
> Canyon.  I didn't get any pictures in the winery since we were busy 
> chatting and tasting but I did get a few pictures of the inventive ways 
> Tony and Evan attached bottles to their bikes for the ride home.  We parted 
> ways at the summit and each enjoyed our own wild descents down different 
> sides of Palomares Road.  
>
> Thanks to Tony, Evan, Roger, Daniel and Riv's own Joe Bundik for a nice 
> afternoon ride.  Here are the photos: 
> https://goo.gl/photos/Sioxwa699QVaKEgH7
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: How to clean a Brooks saddle?

[RoadieRyan]

I haven't tried these yet but I came across these two links when 
researching how to clean up a saddle on a project bike I haven't gotten to 
yet - hope they help
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7790094_clean-brooks-saddle.html 

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7659845_clean-boots-saddle-soap.html

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:40:23 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:

> Rode my Brooks, shower-capped, in the rain for many ours this weekend. 
> Didn't get soaked, just a little sprinkled at quick stops when cap wasn't 
> on earlier in the day, but spent most of the time under a shower cap. Took 
> off shower cap for the car bike rack ride home.
>
> Next day, I noticed some dirty patches on the leather. Not sure if it is 
> mold or just dirt.
>
> Stuck on good. Cannot rub off with a regular dry towel, and didn't want to 
> wet the saddle.
>
> Anyway, how to clean it off without wetting the saddle?
> Any tricks?
> Or just proofhide it and forget it?
>

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[RBW] Crankset Advice

[Joe Bernard]

I think 46-30 would be great for road riding. You'd be on the big ring most of 
the time, with the bailout 30 available for big hills. I'm planning to do this 
with my Bike Friday (smaller cassette cogs duplicate normal road gears). Right 
now I have a 51-42-30 triple, and have discovered that the top gear inches on 
the big ring are pointless for me. Keeping the granny and morphing the two 
bigger rings into one 46-tooth sounds ideal.

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[RBW] Re: Niles Canyon Ride

[dstein]

Looks like a great time, couldn't make that one as I was out of town. I 
really enjoyed the one ride out there and would love to go back. The whole 
event seemed like a really good idea and good time for the walkers and 
bikers out there.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

Ok... so after a week or so of thinking it over, measuring myself and 
measuring again. Realizing I'm really an 88 pbh. Fretting over choosing a 
55 and knowing that I really want a Riv designed by Grant to ride like a 
Riv. On many surfaces, many distances, many different kinds of loads and 
lack of. After all those thoughts I got in touch with Grant and he 
confirmed what I was thinking (and I confirmed that previously I wasn't 
thinking!) that the 58 Appaloosa will be the right size for me. Dave 
changed my order and I'm now getting a 58 Appaloosa! Sorry to the group for 
stating my case with such conviction and then changing my mind. I hope I 
didn't cause anyone to make similar sizing decisions. Good news is there 
seems to be a little time to change minds!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: Niles Canyon Ride

[Chad Knutson]

Very cool, John!  I grew up in south Fremont (rode very little as a kid).  
A couple years ago while visiting my parents, I rode the canyon once with 
my wife.  It's such a nice road, but the traffic is a bit unnerving 
(especially if large trucks are passing in the narrow spots).  Or maybe I'm 
just used to the empty roads of the midwest :)

Thanks for sharing the photos.

Chad
Urbana, IL

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[RBW] Re: Niles Canyon Ride

[Evan E.]

Yep! Great ride with good folks. Thanks, John, for posting.

Evan

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Evan E.]

Wow. This Sugino crankset that David B. mentioned sounds like a good 
deal--especially because you can set it up as a double:

https://www.benscycle.com/p-914-sugino-xd-fixed-gear-crankset.aspx


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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[john]

I agree. I have a 46x30 setup. Veto Orange Grand Cru. Very nice I think. 
But to make it ideal for me, I actually want to go down to a 44 tooth "big" 
ring so that I seldom have to shift down to the 30 tooth ring. Maybe even 
44x28 would be ideal. There's an interesting recent post on the Bike 
Quarterly site about gearing, BTW.


On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:35:17 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I think 46-30 would be great for road riding. You'd be on the big ring 
> most of the time, with the bailout 30 available for big hills. I'm planning 
> to do this with my Bike Friday (smaller cassette cogs duplicate normal road 
> gears). Right now I have a 51-42-30 triple, and have discovered that the 
> top gear inches on the big ring are pointless for me. Keeping the granny 
> and morphing the two bigger rings into one 46-tooth sounds ideal.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Hunqapillar frame + forks (low trail + original) & parts

[René Sterental]

I'm back home for a couple of weeks before traveling again. Reposting this
message to see if anyone is interested in the frame, and other parts. Feel
free to send me an offer if you are interested. Will start disassembly of
the bike this weekend, most likely.

René

On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Dave Brandt 
wrote:

> I'm on the peninsula and am very interested in taking a peak. I can't
> figure out how to get your email with my iPhone or iPad so I apologize for
> not going straight through email. I'm mainly looking at the frameset.
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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Matthew J]

I like Ben's but in this case it appears they are marketing what is in fact 
a double crankset as SS / fixed likely because the look and price meet that 
market.  

Can't really think of any double that could not also be used in an SS / 
fixed application.  This does not mean they are not doubles.

On the other hand, there are many SS cranksets that are not designed to 
accommodate another chain ring - although I suppose where there is a will 
there is way.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 2:53:41 PM UTC-6, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Wow. This Sugino crankset that David B. mentioned sounds like a good 
> deal--especially because you can set it up as a double:
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/p-914-sugino-xd-fixed-gear-crankset.aspx
>
>
>

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[RBW] Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

[Lungimsam]

Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit right 
against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?

Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Kieran J]

I have the same 46/30 VO cranks on my road bike, and I swapped the 46t out 
for a 44t TA ring. I may also switch out the 30t for a 26t or so - it would 
bring regular road cassettes and short cage derailleurs back into the 
picture again.

KJ


On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 4:00:48 PM UTC-5, john wrote:
>
> I agree. I have a 46x30 setup. Veto Orange Grand Cru. Very nice I think. 
> But to make it ideal for me, I actually want to go down to a 44 tooth "big" 
> ring so that I seldom have to shift down to the 30 tooth ring. Maybe even 
> 44x28 would be ideal. There's an interesting recent post on the Bike 
> Quarterly site about gearing, BTW.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:35:17 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I think 46-30 would be great for road riding. You'd be on the big ring 
>> most of the time, with the bailout 30 available for big hills. I'm planning 
>> to do this with my Bike Friday (smaller cassette cogs duplicate normal road 
>> gears). Right now I have a 51-42-30 triple, and have discovered that the 
>> top gear inches on the big ring are pointless for me. Keeping the granny 
>> and morphing the two bigger rings into one 46-tooth sounds ideal.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[David Banzer]

Just to be clear, the Sugino crankset I linked to really is designed for a 
single chainring, but there is a slight shelf (? not sure of the term) on 
the inside of the spider for an inner chainring to sit. It doesn't come as 
far inboard as a regular double, but it is enough to keep the chainring in 
place. I can take photos this evening if anyone would like a close up look 
of this.
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 3:35:17 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>
> I like Ben's but in this case it appears they are marketing what is in 
> fact a double crankset as SS / fixed likely because the look and price meet 
> that market.  
>
> Can't really think of any double that could not also be used in an SS / 
> fixed application.  This does not mean they are not doubles.
>
> On the other hand, there are many SS cranksets that are not designed to 
> accommodate another chain ring - although I suppose where there is a will 
> there is way.
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 2:53:41 PM UTC-6, Evan E. wrote:
>>
>> Wow. This Sugino crankset that David B. mentioned sounds like a good 
>> deal--especially because you can set it up as a double:
>>
>> https://www.benscycle.com/p-914-sugino-xd-fixed-gear-crankset.aspx
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

[Steve Palincsar]

It works fine on mine.

On 11/10/2015 04:56 PM, Lungimsam wrote:
Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit 
right against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?


Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Patrick Moore]

+1 for the 44/30 combo. I've used this on a mountain bike with home-brew 9
speed cassette, and on a ram with a 14-23 7 speed. Pro 5 Vis in both cases.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:00 PM, john  wrote:

> I agree. I have a 46x30 setup. Veto Orange Grand Cru. Very nice I think.
> But to make it ideal for me, I actually want to go down to a 44 tooth "big"
> ring so that I seldom have to shift down to the 30 tooth ring. Maybe even
> 44x28 would be ideal. There's an interesting recent post on the Bike
> Quarterly site about gearing, BTW.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 11:35:17 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I think 46-30 would be great for road riding. You'd be on the big ring
>> most of the time, with the bailout 30 available for big hills. I'm planning
>> to do this with my Bike Friday (smaller cassette cogs duplicate normal road
>> gears). Right now I have a 51-42-30 triple, and have discovered that the
>> top gear inches on the big ring are pointless for me. Keeping the granny
>> and morphing the two bigger rings into one 46-tooth sounds ideal.
>
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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[Johnny Alien]

I am pretty sure that the IRD is the same as the VO cranks.  I actually 
have no problem with getting the cranks and chainrings seperately but it 
seems like that would make my decision harder as then I need to decide on 
what crank arms to get and what chainrings to pair them too, etc.  My brain 
is already overloaded.  I suppose I could get an Alpine 2 which is a nice 
crankset and just replace the large ring with a 48.  The Rene Herse looks 
great too (although expensive) but now you guys are making me thing that 
the IRD Defiant Wide might be the way to go.

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tim Wood]

Hey Mark,

With regard to the stock saddle, I only rode around a parking lot for like two 
minutes on it and put my brooks on before my longer rides so I can't really 
comment too much. It felt pretty good tho, it's a flat saddle and is wider then 
my b17, it almost resembles the shape of a b67. 

The riding position is upright but you can still achieve some lean in your 
back, I think it feels tall more than upright if that makes sense. That being 
said, and as Zed alluded to, the boscos allow for multiple hand positions which 
allow you to get lower and more aggressive if the situation calls for it. I 
found when I was climbing I grabbed near the "stem" on the flat, front area and 
that got me in a pretty aggressive position. While descending or powering the 
flats, I found it comfortable to rest my forearms on the high tops, on top of 
the brake/shifter lever area, and grab just fore of them. In that position I 
would say my back was flat and almost parallel to the top tube. But it sure was 
nice after riding hard in these positions to sit up and grab the grips and not 
feel stretched out or strained. It's the best of both worlds.  I even did some 
out of the saddle efforts and once I got the cadence and weight of the bike 
figured out it was a nice climbing position. That being said, running bar end 
shifters on these bars may be difficult as you'd be bumping them with you legs 
and or body. 

The bike is like a locomotive, once it's up to speed it just rolls along, 
soaking up the bumps beautifully. I literally smile every time I'm on it. It's 
raining here in Vancouver and my fenders haven't arrived yet but I think 
another night ride is in the cards. Can't stop thinking about my Clem - thanks 
Riv!!

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[RBW] Re: Spanninga on hammered fender? Does it sit right?

[Anton Tutter]

There's enough contact over a broad area that the light will sit squarely 
on top of the hammered edges. No issues at all, I've had one or two on 
hammered fenders.  Of course, I now use Velo Lumino taillights on hammered 
fenders :).

Anton
velolumino.com
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On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 4:56:08 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Before I cut holes into a Honjo fender, does the Spaninga even sit right 
> against the hammered contours, or is it a no go?
>
> Can you get it to sit flush or do the contours make it sit other than 
> optimal? Don't want to stress the fender.
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[drew]

beautiful work and helpful ideas. thanks all. here is how it is coming out. 
mostly done, but always tweaking. little piece of heaven. 







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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Bill Lindsay]

Here's a storage shelf I built in my garage.  Camping gear is stored on the 
shelf.  9 hooks hang underneath:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157626609195222

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 6:02:15 PM UTC-8, drew wrote:
>
> beautiful work and helpful ideas. thanks all. here is how it is coming 
> out. mostly done, but always tweaking. little piece of heaven. 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks guys. I was being all patient and zen about being pretty much last 
in line, but now I am really starting to anticipate! I reckon at the rate 
things are going, I will at least have a nice Christmas present.

On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:18:31 PM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>
> Hey Mark, 
>
> With regard to the stock saddle, I only rode around a parking lot for like 
> two minutes on it and put my brooks on before my longer rides so I can't 
> really comment too much. It felt pretty good tho, it's a flat saddle and is 
> wider then my b17, it almost resembles the shape of a b67. 
>
> The riding position is upright but you can still achieve some lean in your 
> back, I think it feels tall more than upright if that makes sense. That 
> being said, and as Zed alluded to, the boscos allow for multiple hand 
> positions which allow you to get lower and more aggressive if the situation 
> calls for it. I found when I was climbing I grabbed near the "stem" on the 
> flat, front area and that got me in a pretty aggressive position. While 
> descending or powering the flats, I found it comfortable to rest my 
> forearms on the high tops, on top of the brake/shifter lever area, and grab 
> just fore of them. In that position I would say my back was flat and almost 
> parallel to the top tube. But it sure was nice after riding hard in these 
> positions to sit up and grab the grips and not feel stretched out or 
> strained. It's the best of both worlds.  I even did some out of the saddle 
> efforts and once I got the cadence and weight of the bike figured out it 
> was a nice climbing position. That being said, running bar end shifters on 
> these bars may be difficult as you'd be bumping them with you legs and or 
> body. 
>
> The bike is like a locomotive, once it's up to speed it just rolls along, 
> soaking up the bumps beautifully. I literally smile every time I'm on it. 
> It's raining here in Vancouver and my fenders haven't arrived yet but I 
> think another night ride is in the cards. Can't stop thinking about my Clem 
> - thanks Riv!!

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Advice

[David Person]

I run a 44/28 Rene Herse crankset from Compass Bikes on my Sam.  Chose it for 
the variety of chain rings available, the quality, low Q factor and the looks.  
Not inexpensive though.

Here is the link to an article I found very useful and info I had not read 
anywhere else.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/how-to-choose-your-chainrings/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Patrick Kelly]

I'm planning to go by riv HQ and try out diff sizes, recheck my PBH
and make sure I've got it right. I'm one who's currently ordered a 55
but thinking maybe I should be on 58. I did exchange emails with Brian
@ riv, and that sort of reassured me that I probably have the right
choice. Either way, I expect an in-person consult will settle things.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM, William R.  wrote:
> Ok... so after a week or so of thinking it over, measuring myself and
> measuring again. Realizing I'm really an 88 pbh. Fretting over choosing a 55
> and knowing that I really want a Riv designed by Grant to ride like a Riv.
> On many surfaces, many distances, many different kinds of loads and lack of.
> After all those thoughts I got in touch with Grant and he confirmed what I
> was thinking (and I confirmed that previously I wasn't thinking!) that the
> 58 Appaloosa will be the right size for me. Dave changed my order and I'm
> now getting a 58 Appaloosa! Sorry to the group for stating my case with such
> conviction and then changing my mind. I hope I didn't cause anyone to make
> similar sizing decisions. Good news is there seems to be a little time to
> change minds!
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY
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