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Tigr mini?
http://tigrlock.com/mini/

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Re: [RBW] Locks

Tigr mini?
https://tigrlock.com/

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[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

 I weigh 175. Both of my B-17 Flyers have always bounced just perfectly for me 
on my Bleriot and Sam and Rambouillet with drop bar 1.3cm below saddle height. 
Perfect also sitting bolt upright for me with Albatross bars! Turns your bike 
into a limousine! I ride centuries and the saddle is fantastic! Go for it!

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[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread Matt Beecher

The springs don't give much at all and I will say that I'm a fair amount 
heavier than Patrick.  It just smooths out the road/trail a tad to make all 
day riding just a bit more comfortable.  

One thing I will warn you about is that the flyer squeaks a lot.  I'm 
accustomed to it, but I imagine that it bothers a lot of people.  

As for the comparison to the B17, I agree that it is very similar in my 
opinion.  

-Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread Leah Peterson

I asked him. He says, "I don't want the hassle." He thinks bike theft isn't 
real and he is only bolstered in his wacky belief because his bikes have never 
been stolen. I told you all he's quirky...

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Why doesn't he want his bike locked? His adamant refusal sounds like there's 
> some kinda Zen thing going on there I don't understand. 
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread RonaTD



On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jay: I think there were several iterations of the Heron; Rivendell had it 
> made for a while by Waterford, and then sold the rights to I-forget-who who 
> in turn sold them to Todd Kuzma.
>
> Heron Bicycles was originally a joint venture between Rona Components, 
Rivendell Bicycle Works, and Waterford Precision Cycles. Full history is 
well described here:
http://www.heronbicycles.com/faq.html
 

> http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html
>
> http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/rivendell.pdf 
> 
>
> I *think* that the second (1999) review considers the original 
> Rivendell/Waterford model, and the first link (2007) records the Kuzma 
> models. If not, perhaps others will correct me.
>
> The Adventure Cycling review is of an original Heron Tour. The 
heronbicycles.com domain has current content. The original geometry, which 
likely applies to the 59cm Heron Touring listed here recently, differs in 
that the head angle was 72 (vs 72.5 currently) and the fork offset was 50mm 
(vs 42.5 currently). The review says the seat angle is 73, but the spec was 
72.

At any rate, I think that the Heron, even in Touring form, was more 
> road-bike-like in geometry (and limitations for dirt) than the Sam.
>

The Sam geometry, other than the slope of the top tube, is extremely close 
to the Heron Tour geometry. 
 

> Can anyone speak of the tubing?
>
The Heron frames from the Gen 1 era all used Reynolds 531 OS main tubes. My 
memory is they are .8/.5./8 but don't know for sure. They got stickers that 
say tubes and stays, but 531 hasn't be available in stays for a long time, 
so the stays are actually 525. The Tour has heavier stays than the Road. 
The most distinctive thing about the Heron will be that it has round fork 
blades. Let the debate begin about whether that's good or bad. I love the 
way mine rides and attribute some of the "magic" to the fork. If you are 
comparing it to a double TT Sam, then the Heron Touring will feel either 
more lively or softer than the Sam, depending on your POV. 

The Touring model used cantilever brakes and had plenty of room for tires, 
but might be a little less roomy than the Sam, especially in the fork crown.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread Joe Bernard

Why doesn't he want his bike locked? His adamant refusal sounds like there's 
some kinda Zen thing going on there I don't understand. 

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[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

Thanks! I may give it a try.

On Friday, October 21, 2016, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I tried a Flyer on an all-rounded mountain bike, with drop bar. I think
> that the bar -- 46 cm Noodle on 10 cm D Drop stem -- was even with saddle.
> The Flyer was no worse for me than the B 17, but I don't like the B 17, and
> I couldn't get the springs to give -- riding the Flyer was like riding the
> B 17.
>
> Point being, that IME, if you like B 17s, the Flyer ought to be fine with
> drop bar, at least as long as you are not expecting a lot of "give". I'm
> not particularly light -- 175.
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:15 PM, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
>> This might seem like a dumb question, but I've only seen sprung saddles,
>> such as the B-17 Flyer or the B-67 on upright bikes like the Cheviot, and
>> in fact I really like the B67 I installed on it.
>>
>> However, I'm wondering if anyone uses the B-17 Flyer on a dropbar touring
>> bike where the bars are level or 1" higher than the saddle.
>>
>> Enlighten me!
>>
>> René
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Re: [RBW] Locks

It's the 5, the one I have; it's the smallest.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  wrote:

> Actually, it might be the 4, the smallest one. I'm checking as there are a
> variety of mini lock models and I think some are larger than others.
>
> René
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
>> Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
>> through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
>> rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
>> Sackville front trunksack exactly.
>>
>> René
>>
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  wrote:
>>
>>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
>>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
>>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
>>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
>>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
>>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
>>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
>>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
>>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
>>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
>>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
>>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is
>>> this Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much
>>> weight loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobi
>>> le-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bor
>>> do-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
>>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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Re: [RBW] B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

I tried a Flyer on an all-rounded mountain bike, with drop bar. I think
that the bar -- 46 cm Noodle on 10 cm D Drop stem -- was even with saddle.
The Flyer was no worse for me than the B 17, but I don't like the B 17, and
I couldn't get the springs to give -- riding the Flyer was like riding the
B 17.

Point being, that IME, if you like B 17s, the Flyer ought to be fine with
drop bar, at least as long as you are not expecting a lot of "give". I'm
not particularly light -- 175.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:15 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> This might seem like a dumb question, but I've only seen sprung saddles,
> such as the B-17 Flyer or the B-67 on upright bikes like the Cheviot, and
> in fact I really like the B67 I installed on it.
>
> However, I'm wondering if anyone uses the B-17 Flyer on a dropbar touring
> bike where the bars are level or 1" higher than the saddle.
>
> Enlighten me!
>
> René
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[RBW] Re: B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

2016-10-21 Thread Matt Beecher

My Atlantis has a Flyer on it and I like the saddle quite a bit.  I had a 
drop bar on it, until I injured my hand.  After that, I changed to a 
moustache bar to take the weight off my injured hand, but plan to go back 
now that I am mostly healed.

-Matt

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Re: [RBW] Locks

Actually, it might be the 4, the smallest one. I'm checking as there are a
variety of mini lock models and I think some are larger than others.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, René Sterental  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
> Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
> through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
> rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
> Sackville front trunksack exactly.
>
> René
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  > wrote:
>
>> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
>> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
>> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
>> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
>> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
>> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
>> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
>> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
>> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
>> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
>> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
>> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
>> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
>> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobi
>> le-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/
>> Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front
>> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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Re: [RBW] Locks

Hi John,

For what you describe, the most practical lock I've seen and own, is the
Kryptonite Evolution Lite Mini-6 U-Lock. I actually carry mine hooked
through the leather loops between the saddle and the bag resting on top
rear of the bag, not inside the bag. It also fits inside the small
Sackville front trunksack exactly.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, Surlyprof  wrote:

> Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has
> been nagging at me.  Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than
> a standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag?  For weekday
> commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
> Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc.  On
> the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up.  I switch out the
> wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
> Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
> light rides without the baggage of my daily commute.  However, in case I
> need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
> Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
> quick stops?  Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
> weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag (
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm).  Another alternative is this
> Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
> loss from my Kryptonite Evolution (https://www.abus.com/eng/
> Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-
> locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).
>
> Any suggestions?
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> wheel and downtube while getting a coffee"
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[RBW] B17 Flyer on drop bar Atlantis

This might seem like a dumb question, but I've only seen sprung saddles,
such as the B-17 Flyer or the B-67 on upright bikes like the Cheviot, and
in fact I really like the B67 I installed on it.

However, I'm wondering if anyone uses the B-17 Flyer on a dropbar touring
bike where the bars are level or 1" higher than the saddle.

Enlighten me!

René

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Since Leah brought up the issue of security here's a question that has been
nagging at me. Is there a decent lock that's smaller and lighter than a
standard Ulock and would fit easily into a Keven's bag? For weekday
commuting the Hillborne is loaded down with heavy 36hole A719 wheels, a
Wald basket, Shopsack, med saddlesack, sturdy Ulock, computer bag, etc. On
the weekends and summers, I like to lighten things up. I switch out the
wheels for 32 hole Synergys with Barlow Pass ELs, lose the Wald and
Shopsack, swap the med saddlesack for a Keven's bag and head out for fun,
light rides without the baggage of my daily commute. However, in case I
need to stop anywhere, I still strap the heavy Ulock on the rear rack.
Does anyone have a suggestion for smaller, lightweight lock solutions for
quick stops? Riv is carrying a lock I may purchase that is about 1/2 the
weight of my Ulock but they say it is a tight fit in a Keven's bag
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/lk10.htm). Another alternative is this
Abus folding lock but, for the price, it doesn't seem to buy me much weight
loss from my Kryptonite Evolution
(https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/Folding-locks/Bordo-GRANIT-X-Plus-6500).

Any suggestions?
John "who's still nervous when he only straps his helmet to the front wheel
and downtube while getting a coffee"

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Large Saddlebag

I have a new Carradice in black and white straps. Only mounted to the
saddle once, but not used. I had it stored, but am not going to be using
it. I don't remember the name, but it's the large one with the flap double
cover.

PM me off-list if interested.

René

On Friday, October 21, 2016, John Bokman  wrote:

> Greetings. My wife's bike got stolen yesterday. As a result, she lost her
> years old, but in excellent condition  Carradice Camper long flap saddlebag
> in the process.
>
> Does anyone out there have a Carradice or newer Riv style large saddlebag
> they are interested in selling?
>
> John
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[RBW] Re: eBay Rambouillet

2016-10-21 Thread Don Compton

That is a steal!!

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 6:14:02 AM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
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>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAMBOUILLET-Steel-Touring-Commuter-18-Speed-Bike-Shimano-105-Brooks-Mavic/331996274514?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39856%26meid%3D01eddf63c7ec4e7ebfb3cc224bc8108d%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172369221158
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread Dave Johnston

I agree with previous posters and am a Heron Touring owner. The Sam is more 
versatile (I am not a Sam owner). Tire max on the Kuzma era Heron touring 
is maybe 36mm actual, so some 38 labeled tires (soma c-line for instance) 
will fit and some might not. Fenders will fit any tire that fits in between 
the chain stays.

One advantage is the Herons came in 2cm size increments. I also prefer 
cantis to long reach sidepulls, but some hate cantis.

-Dave J

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[RBW] WTB: Large Saddlebag

2016-10-21 Thread John Bokman

Greetings. My wife's bike got stolen yesterday. As a result, she lost her 
years old, but in excellent condition  Carradice Camper long flap saddlebag 
in the process.

Does anyone out there have a Carradice or newer Riv style large saddlebag 
they are interested in selling?

John


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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread Ryan Fleming

I know the originals were Reynold 531 and the Todd Kuzma Herons were 
Heritage Select, I believe but I don't know what that means

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jay: I think there were several iterations of the Heron; Rivendell had it 
> made for a while by Waterford, and then sold the rights to I-forget-who who 
> in turn sold them to Todd Kuzma.
>
> http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html
>
> http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/rivendell.pdf
>
> I *think* that the second (1999) review considers the original 
> Rivendell/Waterford model, and the first link (2007) records the Kuzma 
> models. If not, perhaps others will correct me.
>
> At any rate, I think that the Heron, even in Touring form, was more 
> road-bike-like in geometry (and limitations for dirt) than the Sam.
>
> Can anyone speak of the tubing?
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv  > wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about the Heron posted earlier to replace my Sam for c daily 
>> commuting and other on road bicycle related activities. My only other bike 
>> is a Brompton and that's all I have room for. I wasn't aware of Riv or GP 
>> when the Heron was current. Where does it fit in to the pantheon? Thoughts 
>> on the pros and cons of each model?
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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread Ryan Fleming

Uhhhme!

I think if I saw something like a riv unlocked maybe I'd try going in to 
ask who owned it. I'd probably want to meet such a person because, 
seriously, I can count Riv owners on one hand and still have room  for the 
finger  for the driver that cuts you off. Ha! ha!

If it was  like a shop where you go in and out to buy something, I might 
hang around for a bit to see if the owner comes out. 

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> I used to be mega paranoid about leaving my Atlantis locked up anywhere, 
> anytime. Bike theft has gone up and up where I live too, but for some 
> reason, I'm much less worried now. I lock up the rear wheel with the 
> 'sheldon brown method', and walk away. Sometimes I'll cover the Brooks 
> saddle up with the rain cover. But I leave my Carradice bags on the bike, 
> and the front wheel is mounted with a regular allen bolt. Maybe it's 
> because I live in a city where a Riv is looked at as an old clunker. Nobody 
> believes me that you can still buy it new. Just not a very multifaceted 
> cycling market here. The bottom end Giant CX bike with Sora and disc brakes 
> locked next to me is more likely to get pinched than my fendered, racked 
> heavy steel touring bike. I mean, who even WANTS those bikes anymore 
> lol. 
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>>
>> Why would seeing a Rivendell unlocked would be any different from seeing 
>> any bike unlocked? I would think it's the owner's responsibility to decide 
>> how to go about leaving their bike on the street and continue my way, 
>> perhaps thinking that someone is taking stupid risks needlessly.
>>
>> All the suggestions made earlier about bringing it inside and so on are 
>> what I would prefer to do, but you can't always do it. Certainly not 
>> routinely. I've ridden home and then driven out in the car to do an errand 
>> I could have done when commuting by bike, only because I didn't have a lock 
>> with me. 
>>
>> On a personal note, I sweat blood when I take my Cheviot downtown and 
>> leave it locked to a rack while being in line of sight of the bike. And 
>> haven't been able to bring myself to leave it locked and go into a store or 
>> restaurant where I won't have line of sight on the bike. Being latin 
>> american I'm doubly paranoid about it, even having Pitlocks in addition to 
>> the U-Lock. I will have to learn... to trust the security devices and the 
>> security strategies about making your bike less "attractive" to steal than 
>> the others nearby...
>>
>> You can take a risk like Leah did, and I'm sure this is the last time it 
>> happens for her. I would have brought the bike inside and if not allowed, 
>> would have blackmailed them that unless allowed, I wouldn't be able to stay 
>> to do my commitment. The school would have certainly not reimbursed her if 
>> it was stolen. Even if it was locked.
>>
>> René 
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>>>   
>>>I would ask myself, is the bike in really danger from a thief , or 
>>> from the idea that there is something to steal and protect ?  It's just no 
>>> way to live anymore because the moment you deem something as needing 
>>> protection it becomes your personal boat anchor. 
>>>
>>> Sure the bike may "seem" safe for the meantime, but you's live in 
>>> h-e-double toothpicks as it's then never safe.
>>>
>>>  Nah, that's just a bad dream !   HaH !!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 In light of Leah's recent post on leaving her Rivendell unlocked at 
 school what would you do if you were in public and saw an unlocked 
 Rivendell sitting outside of a building somewhere? What would your concern 
 for the owner of the unlocked Rivendell lead you to do?
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RE: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread olofstroh

Just to add some as a former owner of a Heron Touring: 
I sold it last year for financial reasons which was the right thing to do under 
my present circumstances (I still have four bikes) but miss it, a very nice and 
useful bike with character. It was bought at the same time Riv launched the 
Atlantis and my 61 cm had identical geometry to the first generation Atlantis. 
The main difference was clearance for tires, my Heron used 700Cx35 mm Paselas 
with fenders, it might or might not take 38 mm tires with fenders, but not 
bigger. I went on camping tours, heavily loaded with those and found it 
appropriate. I also used it as a long-distance commuter and found it very good 
for that, some days I used my custom Riv (a Rambouillet clone bought before the 
Rams), commuting time was the same. The more narrow chain stays permitted a 
more narrow Q which I saw as an advantage.

In short: a very, very versatile bike, good for loaded touring, good for 
commuting, good in town. No racer but not bad at all if you wanted a brisk pace 
on the road for the pleasure of it. I think it can do anything an AHH, Sam or 
Atlantis can do as long as you don´t need fat tires.

Olof Stroh
Uppsala Sweden

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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread LeahFoy

Well, my husband refuses to lock his Clem up EVER. He only rides to the park 
and to church but as I'm locking everyone else up he will say, "I don't want 
mine locked." I've said it before: that Clem is rather wasted on him.

So, if it's his Rivendell you pass by unlocked, leave it so.

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks!   I have about three boxes of small parts and the one shifter I 
found doesn't have that washer, although I'm sure it's in there somewhere. 
 Other than that, everything is identical to the one posted.  



On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
>   Chris, as far as I know 1983 was the(pics below) first year of the ST 
> Power thumb shifters, all said "Suntour Power Thumb Shifter Pat." on the 
> top of the washer.  The top hand screw adjusts the tension. Being a bit 
> stiff of the bike is not an indicator of anything as even brand news are 
> quite stiff.  
>
>
> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zw7R_DKrWDM/Ua-UV-Pw0nI/BJg/s7738r2RW0M/s1600/gear+shifters+001.jpg
> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401167925619-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
>
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:44:22 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have 
>> the power ratchet or whatever it's called?  I have a set of levers with 
>> "the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the 
>> connection that they might have that mechanism.  
>>
>> They click smoothly in one direction and are a bit stiff in the other 
>> direction.  Does this indicate anything about their condition?  I've been 
>> thinking about pursuing my 26" LHT fantasy and using one of these as a 
>> downtube shifter for the crankset, if these work as downtube shifters.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread Mark Reimer

I used to be mega paranoid about leaving my Atlantis locked up anywhere, 
anytime. Bike theft has gone up and up where I live too, but for some 
reason, I'm much less worried now. I lock up the rear wheel with the 
'sheldon brown method', and walk away. Sometimes I'll cover the Brooks 
saddle up with the rain cover. But I leave my Carradice bags on the bike, 
and the front wheel is mounted with a regular allen bolt. Maybe it's 
because I live in a city where a Riv is looked at as an old clunker. Nobody 
believes me that you can still buy it new. Just not a very multifaceted 
cycling market here. The bottom end Giant CX bike with Sora and disc brakes 
locked next to me is more likely to get pinched than my fendered, racked 
heavy steel touring bike. I mean, who even WANTS those bikes anymore 
lol. 

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> Why would seeing a Rivendell unlocked would be any different from seeing 
> any bike unlocked? I would think it's the owner's responsibility to decide 
> how to go about leaving their bike on the street and continue my way, 
> perhaps thinking that someone is taking stupid risks needlessly.
>
> All the suggestions made earlier about bringing it inside and so on are 
> what I would prefer to do, but you can't always do it. Certainly not 
> routinely. I've ridden home and then driven out in the car to do an errand 
> I could have done when commuting by bike, only because I didn't have a lock 
> with me. 
>
> On a personal note, I sweat blood when I take my Cheviot downtown and 
> leave it locked to a rack while being in line of sight of the bike. And 
> haven't been able to bring myself to leave it locked and go into a store or 
> restaurant where I won't have line of sight on the bike. Being latin 
> american I'm doubly paranoid about it, even having Pitlocks in addition to 
> the U-Lock. I will have to learn... to trust the security devices and the 
> security strategies about making your bike less "attractive" to steal than 
> the others nearby...
>
> You can take a risk like Leah did, and I'm sure this is the last time it 
> happens for her. I would have brought the bike inside and if not allowed, 
> would have blackmailed them that unless allowed, I wouldn't be able to stay 
> to do my commitment. The school would have certainly not reimbursed her if 
> it was stolen. Even if it was locked.
>
> René 
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Garth > 
> wrote:
>
>>   
>>I would ask myself, is the bike in really danger from a thief , or 
>> from the idea that there is something to steal and protect ?  It's just no 
>> way to live anymore because the moment you deem something as needing 
>> protection it becomes your personal boat anchor. 
>>
>> Sure the bike may "seem" safe for the meantime, but you's live in 
>> h-e-double toothpicks as it's then never safe.
>>
>>  Nah, that's just a bad dream !   HaH !!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>>
>>> In light of Leah's recent post on leaving her Rivendell unlocked at 
>>> school what would you do if you were in public and saw an unlocked 
>>> Rivendell sitting outside of a building somewhere? What would your concern 
>>> for the owner of the unlocked Rivendell lead you to do?
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Re: [RBW] Re: What would you do?

Why would seeing a Rivendell unlocked would be any different from seeing
any bike unlocked? I would think it's the owner's responsibility to decide
how to go about leaving their bike on the street and continue my way,
perhaps thinking that someone is taking stupid risks needlessly.

All the suggestions made earlier about bringing it inside and so on are
what I would prefer to do, but you can't always do it. Certainly not
routinely. I've ridden home and then driven out in the car to do an errand
I could have done when commuting by bike, only because I didn't have a lock
with me.

On a personal note, I sweat blood when I take my Cheviot downtown and leave
it locked to a rack while being in line of sight of the bike. And haven't
been able to bring myself to leave it locked and go into a store or
restaurant where I won't have line of sight on the bike. Being latin
american I'm doubly paranoid about it, even having Pitlocks in addition to
the U-Lock. I will have to learn... to trust the security devices and the
security strategies about making your bike less "attractive" to steal than
the others nearby...

You can take a risk like Leah did, and I'm sure this is the last time it
happens for her. I would have brought the bike inside and if not allowed,
would have blackmailed them that unless allowed, I wouldn't be able to stay
to do my commitment. The school would have certainly not reimbursed her if
it was stolen. Even if it was locked.

René

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Garth  wrote:

>
>I would ask myself, is the bike in really danger from a thief , or from
> the idea that there is something to steal and protect ?  It's just no way
> to live anymore because the moment you deem something as needing protection
> it becomes your personal boat anchor.
>
> Sure the bike may "seem" safe for the meantime, but you's live in
> h-e-double toothpicks as it's then never safe.
>
>  Nah, that's just a bad dream !   HaH !!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> In light of Leah's recent post on leaving her Rivendell unlocked at
>> school what would you do if you were in public and saw an unlocked
>> Rivendell sitting outside of a building somewhere? What would your concern
>> for the owner of the unlocked Rivendell lead you to do?
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[RBW] Re: What would you do?

   I would ask myself, is the bike in really danger from a thief , or from 
the idea that there is something to steal and protect ?  It's just no way 
to live anymore because the moment you deem something as needing protection 
it becomes your personal boat anchor. 

Sure the bike may "seem" safe for the meantime, but you's live in 
h-e-double toothpicks as it's then never safe.

 Nah, that's just a bad dream !   HaH !!

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> In light of Leah's recent post on leaving her Rivendell unlocked at school 
> what would you do if you were in public and saw an unlocked Rivendell 
> sitting outside of a building somewhere? What would your concern for the 
> owner of the unlocked Rivendell lead you to do?

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Bill Lindsay

Patrick Moore said:  "I would walk the bike into the building with an air 
of knowing exactly what I am doing and having every right to do it."

Patrick Moore is a dutiful follower of Rule #80 


Bill Lindsay 
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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Bob K.

I'm glad your bike was still there, Leah! My move would've been to simply 
wheel the bike inside and shove it in a corner somewhere. Even if it's not 
in the office, it's indoors and away from passing eyes. Bike culture or 
not, that's a damn nice bike and it would be a shame if someone other than 
you rode off on it. If someone got upset because I brought my bike inside 
while volunteering at the school, I would've apologized and ridden away on 
TBBITW, smiling and carefree. 

Bob K. in Baltimore


On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 3:16:55 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>Reality really is where you can leave your bike anywhere, laugh and 
> smile and be footloose and fancy free .  Ride down to the river side, take 
> a nap in the shade and wake up and go for a swim.  Run up a hill side and 
> get lost in the enchanted forest only to find your bike right where you 
> left it :)Yeah . . . this is reality !If it is not here it is no 
> where .  
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 11:00:25 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for 
>> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice 
>> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of 
>> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always 
>> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags 
>> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose 
>> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about 
>> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
>>
>

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[RBW] What would you do?

2016-10-21 Thread Kai Vierstra

Loosen all the bolts, for it's own good/security.
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY (with locks on and bolts tight)

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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks


   Reality really is where you can leave your bike anywhere, laugh and 
smile and be footloose and fancy free .  Ride down to the river side, take 
a nap in the shade and wake up and go for a swim.  Run up a hill side and 
get lost in the enchanted forest only to find your bike right where you 
left it :)Yeah . . . this is reality !If it is not here it is no 
where .  



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>
> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for 
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice 
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of 
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always 
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags 
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose 
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about 
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
>

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

  David,  I have both the original thumbies from 1983 and some later 1985 
XC models, these have a fairing on the mount and the ends are rubber 
coated, very nice !  I also have both the Sprint and Superbe DT ones.   

Interestingly, the thumb ones have a 20mm ratchet inside, the DT ones 
are about 16.5mm.  I always have preferred the thumb shifter feel, not the 
shape but the mechanism feels different to me, maybe because it is larger.  

I was assuming the Silver 2 would use the 20mm ratchet of the original 
w/metal washer on top but it appears to use the smaller DT sized ratchet, 
so that explains the plastic further , it's the same as the current Silver 
shifters.   

   I don't have my ST bar ends anymore, destroyed in a crash and bike taken 
by insurance co. long ago ...  I suspect they too had the larger 20mm 
ratchet and ST used it for the thumbies. Just a guess, someone with a bar 
end could measure theirs if they are curious. 


On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:32:07 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> If it clicks, it has a power ratchet. The ratcheting mechanism in the 
> originals is the same as the original bar-ends, which is to say that the 
> Silver 2 shifters will have a more refined ratcheting mechanism than the 
> original Suntour shifters. I can't remember off the top of my head, but 
> there might have a later Suntour thumbshifter version that had the 
> mechanism in it as the Suntour Sprint dt shifters.
> Who's a Suntour expert around here?
> David
> River Grove, IL
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:44:22 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have 
>> the power ratchet or whatever it's called?  I have a set of levers with 
>> "the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the 
>> connection that they might have that mechanism.  
>>
>> They click smoothly in one direction and are a bit stiff in the other 
>> direction.  Does this indicate anything about their condition?  I've been 
>> thinking about pursuing my 26" LHT fantasy and using one of these as a 
>> downtube shifter for the crankset, if these work as downtube shifters.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 1:08:31 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. 
>>>  One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be 
>>> going away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 
>>> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon 
>>> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to 
>>> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep 
>>> putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a 
>>> pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When 
>>> the need arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early 
>>> adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to 
>>> make the next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on 
>>> the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  
>>>
>>> Bill habitual-early-adopter Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

What's driving this is:

1. I live in Tel Aviv, which is a great place to live but very far from the 
mostly US based market for Riv and Rivish bicycles and related goods.
 
2. My sister in law is coming for a visit in a few months and she agreed to 
carry a bike for me in her checked luggage. The hundred or so bucks that would 
cost is a drop in the bucket compared to the shipping, customs and fees I would 
otherwise be hit with.

3. There have been several nice bikes offered for sales lately in my size (59 
cm).

So, a somewhat rare oppotunity to buy a new Riv or Rivish bike, which is why I 
have been thinking about it and following the FS posts.

But,


4. I live in a 1200 square foot apartment and don't have room for another bike.

QED

Thanks for listening.

Jay

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[RBW] What would you do?

 In light of Leah's recent post on leaving her Rivendell unlocked at school 
what would you do if you were in public and saw an unlocked Rivendell sitting 
outside of a building somewhere? What would your concern for the owner of the 
unlocked Rivendell lead you to do?

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Thanks guys. That's pretty clear.

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

I forgot to mention a couple of *trucs* that work for me -- I am forgetful
and one of the many things I often forget is a lock.

1. Keep a lock attached to the racks you visit regularly. I used to keep
one at a local grocery store and another at church, until I found that
simply wheeling the bike inside (store) or shoving the bike into the
utility closet (church) was a lot easier.

2. Keep a light cable lock inside the bags or baskets you regularly carry.
I say "light cable" because you might baulk at carrying 5 lb of chain and
padlock around for miles on the off chance that you might occasionally use
them.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:00 AM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread drew

i remember someone who had one saying that the heron touring is similar to 
an AHH with less tire clearance.  i find myself tempted by them every time 
i see one pop up, but i dont need a bike with less tire clearance. i agree 
with bill though. youve got a bike that can do almost anything. why trade 
for a more limiting model?

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters


  Chris, as far as I know 1983 was the(pics below) first year of the ST 
Power thumb shifters, all said "Suntour Power Thumb Shifter Pat." on the 
top of the washer.  The top hand screw adjusts the tension. Being a bit 
stiff of the bike is not an indicator of anything as even brand news are 
quite stiff.  

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zw7R_DKrWDM/Ua-UV-Pw0nI/BJg/s7738r2RW0M/s1600/gear+shifters+001.jpg
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/401167925619-0-1/s-l1000.jpg


On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:44:22 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have 
> the power ratchet or whatever it's called?  I have a set of levers with 
> "the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the 
> connection that they might have that mechanism.  
>
> They click smoothly in one direction and are a bit stiff in the other 
> direction.  Does this indicate anything about their condition?  I've been 
> thinking about pursuing my 26" LHT fantasy and using one of these as a 
> downtube shifter for the crankset, if these work as downtube shifters.  
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Velocity A23/Shimano 105 Wheelset - 700c - Black - 36h - $140 plus shipping.

2016-10-21 Thread David Banzer

Sold.
Thanks!

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:36:39 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Briefly has these wheels on my Riv Redwood as my 700c wheelset to swap 
> between 700c & 650b. I've been running WTB Horizons which fit perfectly, so 
> I'm sticking with 650b instead of swapping wheelsets.
>
> Wheelset is/has:
> 700c
> Gently used condition
> Velocity A23 Rims - black
> Shimano 5700 Hubs - black - fits 8/9/10 speed cassettes - original skewers 
> included
> 36 2.0mm spokes per wheel - black, silver nipple
> Single layer of Stan's tape installed - I never ran these tubeless
>
> Photos are available, I have at least one photo right now and can take 
> more - contact me offlist and I can send them to you.
> $140 plus actual shipping, likely via Bike Flights shipped FedEx.
> Paypal Personal payment preferred if you can.
> Thanks,
> David
> formerly in Chicago, IL, now in River Grove, IL at the start of the Des 
> Plaines River Trail
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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread David Banzer

If it clicks, it has a power ratchet. The ratcheting mechanism in the 
originals is the same as the original bar-ends, which is to say that the 
Silver 2 shifters will have a more refined ratcheting mechanism than the 
original Suntour shifters. I can't remember off the top of my head, but 
there might have a later Suntour thumbshifter version that had the 
mechanism in it as the Suntour Sprint dt shifters.
Who's a Suntour expert around here?
David
River Grove, IL

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:44:22 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have 
> the power ratchet or whatever it's called?  I have a set of levers with 
> "the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the 
> connection that they might have that mechanism.  
>
> They click smoothly in one direction and are a bit stiff in the other 
> direction.  Does this indicate anything about their condition?  I've been 
> thinking about pursuing my 26" LHT fantasy and using one of these as a 
> downtube shifter for the crankset, if these work as downtube shifters.  
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 1:08:31 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. 
>>  One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be 
>> going away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 
>> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon 
>> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to 
>> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep 
>> putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a 
>> pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When 
>> the need arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early 
>> adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to 
>> make the next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on 
>> the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  
>>
>> Bill habitual-early-adopter Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread LBleriot

I think Bill Lindsay was making a kind offer to buy and hold a backup set 
of the V1 shifters for me.  It's nice to know the Walnut Creek Gang has my 
back.  Call me a crank, but I just hate when good things are "improved" out 
of their original purpose.  Ah well.  Progress.

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 2:08:33 PM UTC-4, Julian wrote:
>
> Patrick, 
>
> Who is whom talking to? 
>
> Are you asking about Bill Lindsay's post about buying and holding? If so, 
> I think, (but am not positive), that he is responding to LBleriot's 
> (whoever that is) posts lamenting the end of the road for Silvers V1. 
>
> It does get a bit confusing in the Google interface when folks do not 
> include the post to which they're responding in their replies. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, Il 
>
> On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:50:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Who is he talking to?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks

Scary!
Glad your bikes were ok!

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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread JohnS

Just happened to me today when I went to the credit union, yes some people 
still like to deal with tellers. Anyway, about 1/2 there I realized I 
didn't have a lock with me, so I leaned the QB against the flag pole like I 
normally do and I threaded my helmet strap around the front wheel and down 
tube. Fortunately it was still there when I came out. 

JohnS

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 11:00:25 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for 
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice 
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of 
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always 
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags 
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose 
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about 
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread Julian

Patrick, 

Who is whom talking to? 

Are you asking about Bill Lindsay's post about buying and holding? If so, I 
think, (but am not positive), that he is responding to LBleriot's (whoever 
that is) posts lamenting the end of the road for Silvers V1. 

It does get a bit confusing in the Google interface when folks do not 
include the post to which they're responding in their replies. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:50:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Who is he talking to?
>

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Leah Peterson

Excellent ideas, All! I implemented exactly none of them, as I couldn’t read 
this until I was done volunteering, but luck was on my side! There sat my bike, 
just as I’d left her. Oh, the sweet sight of sunlight enhancing that creamy 
blue frame.

Today would have been the world’s worst day to bring TBBITW inside. There was a 
“wax museum” in the gym/multi-purpose room, and the entire office and all the 
way down the hall was full of visiting parents, who were there to see their 
kids’ displays. I really was relegated to the bike rack out front. As someone 
else said, the bike culture is neglected here, and mostly no one cares about my 
bike, I think. I live in one of the most car-centric and remote parts of Vegas. 

Thanks for the advice and well-wishes! You are the best.

> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> I would walk the bike into the building with an air of knowing exactly what I 
> am doing and having every right to do it. It sometimes works -- stores, 
> generally yes; impromptu homeowners' associations in borrowed premises; 
> work., Libraries, I get told off (hell, you can't even park a bike in the 
> foyer between the 2 sets of glass entry doors). When that happens, I pout.
> 
> I have to admit age and a certain je ne sais quoi of bearing helps. I can get 
> away easily now with things that even 20 years ago (as a callow 
> early-40-something) would have gotten me a swift kick out the door.
> 
> Patrick "hauteur" Moore
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:00 AM, LeahFoy  > wrote:
> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for an 
> hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice but to 
> leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of the school 
> office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always dreamed - Big 
> Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags galore, and all the 
> other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose it now. All I can 
> think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about his stolen bike - 
> which he left at HIS son's school!
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Jay: I think there were several iterations of the Heron; Rivendell had it
made for a while by Waterford, and then sold the rights to I-forget-who who
in turn sold them to Todd Kuzma.

http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html

http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/rivendell.pdf

I *think* that the second (1999) review considers the original
Rivendell/Waterford model, and the first link (2007) records the Kuzma
models. If not, perhaps others will correct me.

At any rate, I think that the Heron, even in Touring form, was more
road-bike-like in geometry (and limitations for dirt) than the Sam.

Can anyone speak of the tubing?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv 
wrote:

> I'm thinking about the Heron posted earlier to replace my Sam for c daily
> commuting and other on road bicycle related activities. My only other bike
> is a Brompton and that's all I have room for. I wasn't aware of Riv or GP
> when the Heron was current. Where does it fit in to the pantheon? Thoughts
> on the pros and cons of each model?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch

Did Suntour have a thumbshifter in the 83-84 timeframe that doesn't have 
the power ratchet or whatever it's called?  I have a set of levers with 
"the band" that came off an 83 MTB (that I miss) but I never made the 
connection that they might have that mechanism.  

They click smoothly in one direction and are a bit stiff in the other 
direction.  Does this indicate anything about their condition?  I've been 
thinking about pursuing my 26" LHT fantasy and using one of these as a 
downtube shifter for the crankset, if these work as downtube shifters.  



On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 1:08:31 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The BLUG has a long write up and description of the Silver 2 shifters. 
>  One big take home is the Silver 1 shifter mold is shot, so those will be 
> going away.  So, if you love Silver shifters, stock up now.  The Silver 2 
> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon 
> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter.  Most importantly (to 
> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep 
> putting their money where their brains are, then reward them by buying a 
> pair or two of Silver 2's and put them into your personal inventory.  When 
> the need arises, get them from your stock.  If Riv gets a lot of early 
> adopters buying them, then they'll have the confidence and the money to 
> make the next part that you can't get anywhere else.  Grant tells you on 
> the BLUG how to get on an email list for updates on the Silver 2.  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SUPERNOVA DYNO LIGHTS

That is a custom (and expensive) rack that Steve Rex does for his custom
frames. I got one (plus his custom front rack as well) on my 650b custom.
They're not available off the shelf, but I'm sure he'd build you one if you
wanted.

René

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) <
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> Great mod.  Great rack, too -- does anyone know what it is?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
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> That's a wonderfull rear rack.
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy Till 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a neat mod of a Honjo fender to accept the Supernova rack mount
>> light, by Steve Rex:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/aLoBf6
>>
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 3:06:40 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
>>>
>>> I like everything about mine except there is no fender mounted taillight
>>> available.
>>>
>>> That means you must use a rack mount or seatpost mount.
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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

For reality's sake, I should add that a friendly and confiding manner
helps; if your affect is friendly, you can get away with a lot.

Patrick *"hauteur amicable" *Moore

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> what I am doing and having every right to do it. It sometimes works --
> stores, generally yes; impromptu homeowners' associations in borrowed
> premises; work., Libraries, I get told off (hell, you can't even park a
> bike in the foyer between the 2 sets of glass entry doors). When that
> happens, I pout.
>
> I have to admit age and a certain *je ne sais quoi* of bearing helps. I
> can get away easily now with things that even 20 years ago (as a callow
> early-40-something) would have gotten me a swift kick out the door.
>
> Patrick *"hauteur"* Moore
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> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:00 AM, LeahFoy  wrote:
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>> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice
>> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of
>> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always
>> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags
>> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose
>> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about
>> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

I would walk the bike into the building with an air of knowing exactly what
I am doing and having every right to do it. It sometimes works -- stores,
generally yes; impromptu homeowners' associations in borrowed premises;
work., Libraries, I get told off (hell, you can't even park a bike in the
foyer between the 2 sets of glass entry doors). When that happens, I pout.

I have to admit age and a certain *je ne sais quoi* of bearing helps. I can
get away easily now with things that even 20 years ago (as a callow
early-40-something) would have gotten me a swift kick out the door.

Patrick *"hauteur"* Moore

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> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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[RBW] FS: Velocity A23/Shimano 105 Wheelset - 700c - Black - 36h - $140 plus shipping.

2016-10-21 Thread David Banzer

Briefly has these wheels on my Riv Redwood as my 700c wheelset to swap 
between 700c & 650b. I've been running WTB Horizons which fit perfectly, so 
I'm sticking with 650b instead of swapping wheelsets.

Wheelset is/has:
700c
Gently used condition
Velocity A23 Rims - black
Shimano 5700 Hubs - black - fits 8/9/10 speed cassettes - original skewers 
included
36 2.0mm spokes per wheel - black, silver nipple
Single layer of Stan's tape installed - I never ran these tubeless

Photos are available, I have at least one photo right now and can take more 
- contact me offlist and I can send them to you.
$140 plus actual shipping, likely via Bike Flights shipped FedEx.
Paypal Personal payment preferred if you can.
Thanks,
David
formerly in Chicago, IL, now in River Grove, IL at the start of the Des 
Plaines River Trail

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Re: [RBW] In search of trade: Long shot, at that - 56cm Hillborne for something that fits me better

Not a clue. After this version they went to a 57.5 effective top tube. 

I can ride it as a city bike just fine, and so I am not rushing to get rid 
of at all. It rides very well and stops superb. Would be a lovely bike for 
someone if I were to sell it, but I have no plans to.

It truly is 'the largest frame I can ride' :)

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 1:32:59 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> If you like a drop bar, and like the bar at a certain height, instead of 
> using bar height as a variable in bike fit, 59 is pretty long, slack seat 
> tube notwithstanding --  too long for me, whose perfect road fit would be 
> 60 X 56.5 (or else a 57-58 with sloping tt).
>
> The 58 cm Ram had a 57 tt and fit me perfectly; wonder why the Sams have 
> such long tts?
>
> Anyway, one learns the hard way -- deals too good to pass up are often 
> deals that ought to be passed up. I learned that the hard way.
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Belopsky  > wrote:
>
>> I recently got this bike, and it's awesome and I ride it daily, but it's 
>> a tad bit big. It's green, has all the Rivvy bits.
>>
>> I'll trade for a 54-55cm something else Riv. Currently I have less than a 
>> fistful of seatpost. I mounted a Carradice bag and it's angled and not 
>> great.
>>
>> Measures 59 effective top tube!
>>
>> PBH of 83.x and this is right there in the groin for me. I don't mind 
>> that, but a cm of clearance would be better. 
>>
>> Here's a bad photo of it before I adjusted it some more which dropped the 
>> seat even further.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread Bill Lindsay

I can't think of a single thing a Heron would do that a Sam would not do. 
 Replacing a Sam with a Heron seems like a lateral move at best.  What itch 
are you scratching?  Are you just bored with your Sam and want something 
new?  Is your Sam the wrong size?  Personally I would take a Samuel 
Hillborne over a Heron touring six days a week and twice on Sunday.  I 
would consider the Heron more "traditional" looking, and if you wanted to 
be unkind about "traditional" you'd call it "dated".  Now don't get me 
wrong, I love traditional looking bikes and own a couple of them.  Also I 
think the Heron touring is definitely a nice bike.  I would not mind having 
a Heron touring in my stable as an N+1 in addition to a Sam, enabling me to 
do two different kinds of builds on the two bikes, but I can't think of any 
reasons why I would want to replace my Sam with a Heron touring.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 10:07:31 AM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about the Heron posted earlier to replace my Sam for c daily 
> commuting and other on road bicycle related activities. My only other bike 
> is a Brompton and that's all I have room for. I wasn't aware of Riv or GP 
> when the Heron was current. Where does it fit in to the pantheon? Thoughts 
> on the pros and cons of each model? 

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Re: [RBW] In search of trade: Long shot, at that - 56cm Hillborne for something that fits me better

If you like a drop bar, and like the bar at a certain height, instead of
using bar height as a variable in bike fit, 59 is pretty long, slack seat
tube notwithstanding --  too long for me, whose perfect road fit would be
60 X 56.5 (or else a 57-58 with sloping tt).

The 58 cm Ram had a 57 tt and fit me perfectly; wonder why the Sams have
such long tts?

Anyway, one learns the hard way -- deals too good to pass up are often
deals that ought to be passed up. I learned that the hard way.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Belopsky 
wrote:

> I recently got this bike, and it's awesome and I ride it daily, but it's a
> tad bit big. It's green, has all the Rivvy bits.
>
> I'll trade for a 54-55cm something else Riv. Currently I have less than a
> fistful of seatpost. I mounted a Carradice bag and it's angled and not
> great.
>
> Measures 59 effective top tube!
>
> PBH of 83.x and this is right there in the groin for me. I don't mind
> that, but a cm of clearance would be better.
>
> Here's a bad photo of it before I adjusted it some more which dropped the
> seat even further.
>
>
>
> 
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[RBW] In search of trade: Long shot, at that - 56cm Hillborne for something that fits me better

I recently got this bike, and it's awesome and I ride it daily, but it's a 
tad bit big. It's green, has all the Rivvy bits.

I'll trade for a 54-55cm something else Riv. Currently I have less than a 
fistful of seatpost. I mounted a Carradice bag and it's angled and not 
great.

Measures 59 effective top tube!

PBH of 83.x and this is right there in the groin for me. I don't mind that, 
but a cm of clearance would be better. 

Here's a bad photo of it before I adjusted it some more which dropped the 
seat even further.




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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

Leah,
I have Ul-locks planted at  The places I go the most around town. You can buy 
are you lock and leave it at the school locked to the bike rack and keep the 
key on your key ring so whenever you go to the school the lock is there waiting 
for you and you don't have to carry it on the bike

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[RBW] Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

2016-10-21 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)

I'm thinking about the Heron posted earlier to replace my Sam for c daily 
commuting and other on road bicycle related activities. My only other bike is a 
Brompton and that's all I have room for. I wasn't aware of Riv or GP when the 
Heron was current. Where does it fit in to the pantheon? Thoughts on the pros 
and cons of each model? 

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Edwin W

Once a year or so I will forget a lock or key. I typically ask to take it 
inside with that explanation. And then I don't forget for several months!
Here in Nashville, probably like where you are, there is little bike culture 
and the one good thing is little bike THEFT culture. 
Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Questions

2016-10-21 Thread adam leibow

i do like the orange. 

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 6:08:45 PM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote:
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> hello !
>
> recently i sold my too-small 56cm a homer hilsen, and have been looking to 
> replace it with something similar, but larger, so that less seatpost shows 
> and it fits a bit more traditionally/rando-y. i contacted a seller on ebay 
> about his 60cm rambo and he agreed to sell to me as a frameset even though 
> his listing was for the complete. before i decide to commit to this bike, 
> can i ask you fellow rambo owners a) what size do you ride? b) what is your 
> pbh? c) how much seatpost is showing? and finally d) do you have the 
> original geometry sheet for this bike? i couldn't find it after a quick 
> google search. also, if you have pictures of your bikes, i would love to 
> see them! 
>
> thank you for your help! it is much appreciated!!
>
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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Ryan Fleming

Thank goodness Leah...what a heartbreaker if your lovely BF was stolen. 
Glad she's still there

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 10:37:07 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
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> Faith in humanity remains! The Best Bike in the World is still mine!
> [image: image1.JPG]
>
> [image: image2.JPG]
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 21, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Scott Henry > 
> wrote:
>
> What I generally do anytime that I am leaving the bike without a lock 
> (which I rarely carry) is just prevent it from being ridden off.   I'll do 
> some combination of loosening all the QR levers, intentionally overshift to 
> drop the chain off the big ring and generally wrap a toe strap around a 
> crank arm or stays/spokes.Someone can still grab the bike and toss it 
> in the truck, but most bike thefts are ride-off crimes of opportunity.
> If they grab it from the rack and the front wheel falls off or they can't 
> pedal away, hopefully they'll grab something else.
>
> People don't steal your bike because its anything special, people steal 
> bikes because they are easy to take.
> Scott
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM, LeahFoy  > wrote:
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>> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for 
>> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice 
>> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of 
>> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always 
>> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags 
>> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose 
>> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about 
>> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Eric Norris

If you can't do anything else, take the front wheel off and carry it with you. 

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:
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> I would think if you're helping at the school they will let you put the bike 
> in the office for an hour or two. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

2016-10-21 Thread Rusty Click

I believe they look like a "Goose Neck".  No offense, or vote intended, 
just saying.  I do like the alliterative nature of the "THIMBLE THUMBIE" 
though.

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 7:12:20 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
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> If now and then or from the start we call them Thimble Shifters---if we or 
> I EVER do--Ryan gets a free pair. 
> Since 'tis the season for voting, the polls are open till Saturday at 10 
> o'clock California time. 
>
> Silver THIMBLES
>
> The SILVER part is alredy in the genes. That's the brand. Model would be 
> THIMBLE, and maybe we'd use THIMBLE only for the thumb-operated style.
>
> so you can vote anonymously without hurting Ryan's feelings, email 
> gr...@rivbike.com  directly, and only if you like THIMBLE. 
> No other suggestions, please, no explanations, I'm not going to open up the 
> email unless you say THIMBLE OPEN, and then, sure, whatever. But I'm 
> looking for a certain undisclosed number between 45 and 48. That's the 
> threshhold.
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray 
> > wrote:
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>> I like the old down tube style ones and the new thimble ones. Both are 
>> nice.
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RE: [RBW] Taking Risks

Why not just take the front wheel or the saddle or both with you?

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

What I generally do anytime that I am leaving the bike without a lock (which I 
rarely carry) is just prevent it from being ridden off.   I'll do some 
combination of loosening all the QR levers, intentionally overshift to drop the 
chain off the big ring and generally wrap a toe strap around a crank arm or 
stays/spokes.Someone can still grab the bike and toss it in the truck, but 
most bike thefts are ride-off crimes of opportunity.If they grab it from 
the rack and the front wheel falls off or they can't pedal away, hopefully 
they'll grab something else.
People don't steal your bike because its anything special, people steal bikes 
because they are easy to take.
Scott

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM, LeahFoy 
mailto:jonasandle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for an 
hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice but to 
leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of the school 
office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always dreamed - Big 
Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags galore, and all the 
other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose it now. All I can think 
about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about his stolen bike - which he 
left at HIS son's school!

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)

 I would think if you're helping at the school they will let you put the bike 
in the office for an hour or two. 

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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Scott Henry

What I generally do anytime that I am leaving the bike without a lock
(which I rarely carry) is just prevent it from being ridden off.   I'll do
some combination of loosening all the QR levers, intentionally overshift to
drop the chain off the big ring and generally wrap a toe strap around a
crank arm or stays/spokes.Someone can still grab the bike and toss it
in the truck, but most bike thefts are ride-off crimes of opportunity.
If they grab it from the rack and the front wheel falls off or they can't
pedal away, hopefully they'll grab something else.

People don't steal your bike because its anything special, people steal
bikes because they are easy to take.
Scott

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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[RBW] Re: Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Looks great! 

Can you bring Betty into the school? Put it in the gym or cafeteria? Maybe 
the Principal's Office? 

Good luck!
shoji



On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 11:00:25 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
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> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for 
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice 
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of 
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always 
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags 
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose 
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about 
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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[RBW] Taking Risks

2016-10-21 Thread LeahFoy

I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for an 
hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice but to 
leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of the school 
office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always dreamed - Big 
Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags galore, and all the 
other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose it now. All I can think 
about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about his stolen bike - which he 
left at HIS son's school!

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RE: [RBW] Re: HELP!

Back from trip, without incident, thanks to the group and Peter.  Thanks to 
all, and especially the wise man in Hillsborough, New Hampshire.  I'll try to 
get a ride report out soon.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: HELP!

Tom did call. It wasn't the axle that broke, it was the skewer. He's probably 
heading for a bike shop now to buy a new one. Hope he has great weather for the 
trip.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Jim M. 
mailto:mather...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Maybe call Peter White? If anyone would know and could respond in an emergency, 
I'd think it would be Peter. Good luck!

On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 8:39:42 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
Folks:

A friend and I are in Pittsburgh to start a ride to D.C. on the GAP/C&O. We 
just snapped the axle on a SON 28 dynamo hub. Does anyone have any ideas how we 
might cobble together a replacement?  Would a standard Q/R skewer work?  Any 
ideas would be welcome.

Tom

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Re: [RBW] FS: 59CM Heron

2016-10-21 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)

I sent you a PM.
Please let me know if you don't get it.

Jay

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 12:10:21 AM UTC+3, Kendallspower wrote:
>
> I'm not sure of clearance. It's so damn pretty in person though. 
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016, sameness > 
> wrote:
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>> Ah, that's your bike! 
>>
>> Seems like that thing's been on and off Craigslist for years now. I don't 
>> get why it's not already in someone else's garage.
>>
>> Since I have you and if you know, any idea on tire clearance without 
>> fenders?
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 10:40:13 AM UTC-7, Kendallspower wrote:
>>>
>>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/5810577008.html
>>>
>>> Negotiable on price.
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Re: [RBW] Re: SUPERNOVA DYNO LIGHTS

Great mod.  Great rack, too -- does anyone know what it is?

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On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Patrick Moore 
mailto:bertin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That's a wonderfull rear rack.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy Till 
mailto:jeremy.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's a neat mod of a Honjo fender to accept the Supernova rack mount light, 
by Steve Rex:

https://flic.kr/p/aLoBf6

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 3:06:40 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
I like everything about mine except there is no fender mounted taillight 
available.

That means you must use a rack mount or seatpost mount.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

I was mistaken. Regular 
technomic.. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Technomic-26-0mm-70mm-72-D-225mm-1-in-Quill-Stem/122092857710?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D0d3ecf045fd348f09b35ea0a4a0f1c68%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D122092857710

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

A deluxe with shipping was 46$?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

All the technomic deluxes  (190 rise)are shorter than standard technomics 
(225mm).

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

2016-10-21 Thread Philip Kim

I think this could be the DX versions 
,
 
which are shorter than technomic stems.

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 7:30:27 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Not to poop on your listing, but I bought a brand new one for $46 shipped 
> off eBay.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:49:06 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> 7cm extension
>> 190 rise
>> 26.0 clampasaurus
>> 50$ shipped CONUS
>>
>> Pics here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/Tf5776
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

2016-10-21 Thread Philip Kim

This isn't really a Technomic stem. It's DX-Technomic stem 
(http://www.benscycle.com/p-2499-nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem.aspx).
 
Between height of technomic (225mm), and regular stems which are usually 
100mm in height.

On Friday, October 21, 2016 at 7:30:27 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Not to poop on your listing, but I bought a brand new one for $46 shipped 
> off eBay.
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:49:06 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> 7cm extension
>> 190 rise
>> 26.0 clampasaurus
>> 50$ shipped CONUS
>>
>> Pics here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/Tf5776
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem

Not to poop on your listing, but I bought a brand new one for $46 shipped 
off eBay.

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 11:49:06 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> 7cm extension
> 190 rise
> 26.0 clampasaurus
> 50$ shipped CONUS
>
> Pics here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/Tf5776
>

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Re: [RBW] eBay Rambouillet