[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Kevin Lindsey]

John -
Most of my riding is on pavement; depending on my commute, about four miles 
may also be on the packed clay and gravel of the local tow path.  I started 
out with 50mm Schwalbs on my Hunqapillar; the ride was great, the gravel 
felt like pavement, the pavement felt like silk, etc.  Unfortunately, I 
simply couldn't keep the rear tire inflated - there was something stuck in 
there that neither I nor the LBS could find and that continued to puncture 
my tubes - so in frustration I ordered a pair of Compass 38mm Barlow Pass 
tires from Compass bikes.  The ride is great, they make the Hunq look a 
little bit less like a tank, and feel a bit faster (latter consideration is 
purely subjective).  They work very well on the tow path and, as I don't 
intend to ride my Hunq off-road, I plan to stick with the 38s.
Hope this helps.
Kevin

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:34:56 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

['Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm running 50mm Schwalbes on mine also.  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:34:56 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[Michael Hechmer]

Nicely done.  I'm pleased to read that you only lost 5mm of BB height in 
the process, as I also have a blue ram.  Your paint job appears to be in 
pristine condition.  One suggestion,  when you get around to a new rack, 
buy the longer stays and attach them to the drop outs rather than use a P 
clamp in the middle of the blade.  It will look nicer.

Michael

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:29 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855
>
> I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
> Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.
>
> After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 
> 650b Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as 
> pedal strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.
>
> Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
> themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
> some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
> I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
> future Honjo fender.
>
> I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
> Dura2 salmon pads.
> I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm 
> of reach to reach far enough.
> Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
> calipers. Just a mm shy or so.
>
> A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
> Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
> Rambouillet info in general!
>
> Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 
> 650b ride report soon.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Ron Mc]

$15? - if you go through the cart and don't like the paypal invoice they 
send you, just ask to cancel the order.  

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:18:39 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> What are the shipping costs like?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Garth]

  I have used Vittoria Hypers 40/38 on my Bomba , which I ride mostly on 
pavement, but I don't hesitate to ride it anywhere when I feel like it 
regardless of the tire. That'd be the minimum tire I'd ride with it, the 
Hypers also don't have alot of volume for their width.  I've not ridden 
Compass tires so I can't help you there, but if I were to I'd get that new 
44mm one and not a Barlow pass.  From reports I have seen here it's not 
really 44mm wide either, but regardless you will get notably more volume 
than the Barlow without any compromise. I'm currently riding some 
43mm(actual) Kenda EZ ride tires on my Bomba which is good enough for me.  




On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:34:56 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

['Jack' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Most of the miles I put on my Hunq are on pavement. I'm using Schwalbe 
Little Big Bens. They are 700x38 - I like 'em, they're okay on the pavement 
but work fine on gravel roads. The bike feels lively and I have plenty of 
room for fenders.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:34:56 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Woolpower, DeVold, Wabi Woolens?..

[Deacon Patrick]

For me, the newest thing in wool is cotton. Grin.

The key to warmth is moisture management. Once I got ventile as my outer 
layer, I now wear cotton as my inner layer (well, I still have wool for my 
mid-layer, but it will be replaced with cotton over time). If dealing with 
uber-cold (-20˚F), I'll use the fishnet long underwear from Wiggies.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:25:54 PM UTC-7, Max S wrote:
>
> As the cold weather (slowly) approaches, I'm thinking of investing in a 
> quality wool jersey, hopefully one that's made from a denser, thicker 
> fabric, but comfortable without a base layer. These could well be mutually 
> exclusive attributes, but maybe there's some new magic out there in the 
> wonderful world of wool? Does anyone have first-hand experience with 
> Woolpower 
> 
>  
> or DeVold 
> 
>  
> that Riv sells? How do they feel compared with, say, Wabi Woolens 
>  
> (their Winter Weight Jerseys), and are any of them wearable without a base 
> layer?
>
> TIA! 
>
> - Max 
> (Ann Arbor, MI)
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Marc Irwin]

My mileage commuting is on pavement, but touring and recreational is split 
between
Pavement, gravel and trails.  I really like the 50 mm Big Ben's for everything. 
I only use the Hunq part of the time for commuting because it's one of two 
bikes I have with dyno lights. 

Marc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Tim Gavin]

Matt-

Mine is a '97 Road Standard (exact same lugs and fork crown as yours), and
it fits 130 mm hubs without any jamming required.  Mine had a 7s freewheel
when I bought it, but on a 130 mm Phil FSA hub.

Riv Catalog 3, current for my era of Road Standard, says 130 mm spacing for
the rear.  I agree that yours is either custom, a rare production model in
126, or it's been re-spaced from 130 to 126.

There does seem to be some variation among these early bikes.  For example,
my frame (like all Road Standards) was specified for short-reach (39-49 mm)
brakes.  However, my bike can barely clear a 700 x 28 tire whereas some
Road Standards fit a 32 mm tire.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:

> Thanks for the offer Eric, but I am trying to get away from freewheels and
> moving to cassettes on any bike that I can, except a few very old ones
> where it would not be period correct (50's Criterium, Stella, Peugeot, &
> Hetchins).
>
> As for "jamming on the 130mm wheelset", there is nothing to apologize
> for.  Live and learn..
>
> I'm still not certain this is a custom.  Ignoring the powdercoat, which
> was done when I had the frame repaired, there is nothing that makes this
> appear custom.  I bet some of the early Rivs were spaced at 126mm.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Shoji Takahashi]

My 48cm Hunqapillar has 26" tires. Most of my miles are commuting miles 
(Boston-area streets). I have Rat Trap Pass on it now-- fast tires on and 
off road. I probably run them with more pressure than Compass would 
recommend, but I've gotten more than a few pinch flats after hitting deep 
potholes. 

I've used Compass 26x1.5 before RTP came out. Those were nice and fast too. 
TBH, it looked strange with all the clearance!

I've also used Big Bens. Those were very good, too-- felt fast, but not as 
fast, as Compass RTP or 26x1.5. I think for the money and my use case 
(commuting on streets, some in poor condition), Big Bens are as good, 
perhaps better, than RTP. 

Good luck!
shoji


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:34:56 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Daniel Jackson]

Go for the Schealbe Big Ones or, at the very least, Compass 700 x 44. 

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Re: [RBW] Woolpower, DeVold, Wabi Woolens?..

[Patrick Moore]

I've not used Woolpower or DeVold, and my original issue Wabi jersey is a
few years old, but the Wabi is hands down the best jersey I've used, and
I've used many different brands. Thickish wool, quality seams, and I think
they've fixed the problem of the too high rear pockets.

I see that Wabi now has several types, but if my sample is any indication,
you can't go wrong with them.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Max S  wrote:

> As the cold weather (slowly) approaches, I'm thinking of investing in a
> quality wool jersey, hopefully one that's made from a denser, thicker
> fabric, but comfortable without a base layer. These could well be mutually
> exclusive attributes, but maybe there's some new magic out there in the
> wonderful world of wool? Does anyone have first-hand experience with
> Woolpower
> 
> or DeVold
> 
> that Riv sells? How do they feel compared with, say, Wabi Woolens
> 
> (their Winter Weight Jerseys), and are any of them wearable without a base
> layer?
>
> TIA!
>
> - Max
> (Ann Arbor, MI)
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Patrick Moore]

I was mistaken. I just measured it, and it's 120 mm. But again, this was a
custom frame for fixed use only.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Soon Chung Lim 
wrote:

> Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm?
> Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame
> built for 126mm is very odd.
>
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 mm.
>> (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my test,
>> while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Matt B.,
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD.
>>>
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[RBW] Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[WETH]

Beautiful bike!  I like my Romulus as a 650b and hope you will find the 
Rambouillet equally enjoyable!

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[RBW] FS: 650b Grand Bois Cypres tire set

[lum gim fong]

80$ shipped nationwide.

Front -- Barely any tread wear. Almost like new.
Rear - Center tread is just starting to wear.

Sidewalls are great. A little dirty from some rain rides.

See them here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/J1551o

Paypal please.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Ron Mc]

Jan sells the 120mm Grand Bois hubs, and 6-sp cassette to match.  

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 9:37:47 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I was mistaken. I just measured it, and it's 120 mm. But again, this was a 
> custom frame for fixed use only.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Soon Chung Lim  > wrote:
>
>> Patrick, did you spec the frame to be 126mm? 
>> Grant liked to spec at 128 and 132.5 for versatility but a 1999 frame 
>> built for 126mm is very odd. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:53:04 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Weirdo frames aside, that is. The spacing on my '99 Joe gofast is 126 
>>> mm. (And, it will, or should, *just* take the 114mm OL AM hub, per my 
>>> test, while the 130 OL spaced '03 won't.)
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Soon Chung Lim  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Matt B.,

 I'm pretty sure Rivendell never made a frame with 126mm rear OLD. 

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[RBW] Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's a nice looking bike. Has it been repainted? I don't think I've seen the 
cream outlining of the lugs before.

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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[islaysteve]

Very nice; beautiful bike!


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:58:29 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855
>
> I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
> Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.
>
> After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 
> 650b Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as 
> pedal strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.
>
> Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
> themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
> some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
> I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
> future Honjo fender.
>
> I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
> Dura2 salmon pads.
> I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm 
> of reach to reach far enough.
> Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
> calipers. Just a mm shy or so.
>
> A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
> Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
> Rambouillet info in general!
>
> Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 
> 650b ride report soon.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2014 52cm Surly Straggler - 700c wheels - Black - Very Good Condition (8/10)

[Max Bergen]

I'm leaving the country on Sunday and need to have this sold, boxed and 
shipped by Saturday, so I'm going to drop the price by $50/day starting 
tomorrow until Saturday! 

DM if you're interested :) 

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:53:32 AM UTC-6, Max Bergen wrote:
>
> Moving out of the country and selling a couple bikes. Figured this 
> community would appreciate this one... 
>
> 2014 Surly Straggler in very good (8/10) condition! 
>
> Regularly serviced at Bicycle Sport Shop here in Austin; disc brakes stop 
> on command, all the components are super clean and the frame is still just 
> as solid as the day I bought it. 
>
> Selling as a stock complete (tiagra components, no pedals, seat). $1300 
> includes packaging and shipping in CONUS. 
>
> Link to photos: https://goo.gl/photos/boRi7c7otKVsRsVN9
>
> Thanks!
> -Max
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

[Patrick Moore]

Welcome to the list. And good luck finding a San Marcos. You do know that
there is a statutory requirement that you post photos of any new build?

Curious: why San Marcos in particular? The Ram might be an alternative
worth considering, as certainly would be the Roadeo. (I've owned a Ram;
I've not ridden a Roadeo but am judging from others' opinions.)

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu 
wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions
> and pictures here.
>
> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos.  However,
> I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the
> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I
> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling
> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2014 52cm Surly Straggler - 700c wheels - Black - Very Good Condition (8/10)

[Max Bergen]

Since I'm leaving the country on Sunday and need to have this sold, boxed 
and shipped by Saturday, I'm going start dropping the price by $50/day 
starting tomorrow. 

DM me if interested! 

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:53:32 AM UTC-6, Max Bergen wrote:
>
> Moving out of the country and selling a couple bikes. Figured this 
> community would appreciate this one... 
>
> 2014 Surly Straggler in very good (8/10) condition! 
>
> Regularly serviced at Bicycle Sport Shop here in Austin; disc brakes stop 
> on command, all the components are super clean and the frame is still just 
> as solid as the day I bought it. 
>
> Selling as a stock complete (tiagra components, no pedals, seat). $1300 
> includes packaging and shipping in CONUS. 
>
> Link to photos: https://goo.gl/photos/boRi7c7otKVsRsVN9
>
> Thanks!
> -Max
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[Max Bergen]

Beautiful build! 

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:58:29 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855
>
> I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
> Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.
>
> After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 
> 650b Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as 
> pedal strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.
>
> Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
> themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
> some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
> I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
> future Honjo fender.
>
> I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
> Dura2 salmon pads.
> I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm 
> of reach to reach far enough.
> Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
> calipers. Just a mm shy or so.
>
> A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
> Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
> Rambouillet info in general!
>
> Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 
> 650b ride report soon.
>

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[RBW] Re: Woolpower, DeVold, Wabi Woolens?..

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! I forgot to add that before my cotton conversion, I got DeVold from 
Rivendell and wore them exclusively. They lasted several years, not bad for 
all the biking I did in them.

I also can't speak to how well cotton/ventile moisture management would 
work in a higher humidity place than Colorado. Though I've done fine on our 
80%+ high humid days in the 30-40's we get in Spring and Autumn.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:25:54 PM UTC-7, Max S wrote:
>
> As the cold weather (slowly) approaches, I'm thinking of investing in a 
> quality wool jersey, hopefully one that's made from a denser, thicker 
> fabric, but comfortable without a base layer. These could well be mutually 
> exclusive attributes, but maybe there's some new magic out there in the 
> wonderful world of wool? Does anyone have first-hand experience with 
> Woolpower 
> 
>  
> or DeVold 
> 
>  
> that Riv sells? How do they feel compared with, say, Wabi Woolens 
>  
> (their Winter Weight Jerseys), and are any of them wearable without a base 
> layer?
>
> TIA! 
>
> - Max 
> (Ann Arbor, MI)
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[dstein]

I run Rat Trap Pass tires on my 26" hunq, alternating between that and some 
2.1" smart sams. Mostly it's pavement this day with some trails mixed in. 
Albastache bars (which I've tried to replace with no less than 3 other bars 
and always go back to albastache - including dirt drops, jones, and map 
bars), but the Albastache's for me are the sweet spot and an important 
determination along w/ the tires for what kind of riding you do on the 
bike. 

It's a stouter, heavier bike for sure. But I find I go just as fast as any 
other rivendell or similar bike I've had. Nowhere near as fast as my go 
fast gunnar road bike with a light wheelset and 33mm compass tires, but 
compares pretty well to everything else I've ridden.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 7:30:47 AM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Go for the Schealbe Big Ones or, at the very least, Compass 700 x 44. 

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

ARRGHH!  The site displays fine on a brand new work iPhone but 
not on my personal iPhone. I've deleted the history twice and restarted the 
phone. I still get the 404 message but it's within the site so you can navigate 
to the products but still...

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[RBW] Re: Want a San Marcos!

[Belopsky]

Ashwath did you see my post on internetbob about BicycleClassics? They may 
have a 51cm frame left still

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:36:18 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> Hello folks, 
>
> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions 
> and pictures here. 
>
> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos.  However, 
> I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[drew]

 lately, ive not had time to ride on anything but pavement im also 
running schwalbe 50's. marathon supreme right now. 

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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[Ryan Fleming]

That's really nice...I like the cream lug-lining. What about cream fenders 
(SKS or something else). Those would look good ,  too  , as would the 
Honjos (your bike).

Anyway, really nice-looking...let  us know how it rides! Plush I bet with 
those Compass tires

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:58:29 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> See it here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/K1b855
>
> I originally had my Rambouillet set up as 700 x 28c. BB height of 26.5cm. 
> Still not enough fender clearance for my comfort level.
>
> After converting to 650b x 42mm, the BB height is now 26cm. Same as my 
> 650b Bleriot, and I have 170 crankarms on both bikes!! So should be as 
> pedal strike free as the Bleriot, I hope. Way more fender clearance now.
>
> Sorry for the bad fenderlines. But the plastic fenders seem to have locked 
> themselves into the shape they were in on my old Sam bike. I hope to get 
> some Honjos soon, and a VO Rando rack, as the M18 is way too high now. 
> I hope to bend the VO tang to my preferred height so it sits right over the 
> future Honjo fender.
>
> I used Tektro R559 brakes. The front brake reach is fine with Koolstop 
> Dura2 salmon pads.
> I used Kool Stop Thinline pads on the rear brake as it needed another mm 
> of reach to reach far enough.
> Standard rear R559 pads didn't reach all the way on the right rear arm of 
> calipers. Just a mm shy or so.
>
> A big shout out to Rod O'Connor (for the frame), and ttoshi, and Leslie 
> Bright from this forum for all their pointers on the conversion and 
> Rambouillet info in general!
>
> Enjoy the pics!! It rode great as a 700c. I hope to report back with a 
> 650b ride report soon.
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[adam leibow]

i had the snoqualmie pass 44s on my hunq but they were way smaller than i 
expected so i took them off instantly and went back to 55 big bens. it just 
felt inappropriate to have such a small tire on there, and i have a true 
road bike so i am not relegated to making a dirt touring bike into one. 

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:34:56 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

I was riding 50mm Marathon Supremes for the summer but put on some Schwalbe 
Thunderburts (29 x2.1) for the Fall and I am rather amazed at how efficient 
they feel on the roadthey almost feel better than the Supremes?!

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 12:17:01 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>
> i had the snoqualmie pass 44s on my hunq but they were way smaller than i 
> expected so i took them off instantly and went back to 55 big bens. it just 
> felt inappropriate to have such a small tire on there, and i have a true 
> road bike so i am not relegated to making a dirt touring bike into one. 
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:34:56 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>>
>> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
>> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
>> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
>> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
>> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
>> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>>
>>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
>> you running?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Woolpower, DeVold, Wabi Woolens?..

[bo richardson]

i love my wabi woolens. all my cycling buddies love them too.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[Howard Hatten]

Tim
I had trouble on my iPhone till I deleted my old bookmark and shortcut. 
Navigated to RBW site and established new bookmark. Problem was solved. 

Howard
Livonia Mi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Patrick Moore]

Adam: can you tell us how wide the SPs actually measured? And, how wide the
rims are?

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM, adam leibow  wrote:

> i had the snoqualmie pass 44s on my hunq but they were way smaller than i
> expected so i took them off instantly and went back to 55 big bens. it just
> felt inappropriate to have such a small tire on there, and i have a true
> road bike so i am not relegated to making a dirt touring bike into one.
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:34:56 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>>
>> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George
>> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up
>> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to
>> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking
>> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on
>> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement).
>>
>>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are
>> you running?
>
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Can you identify this crank?

[Chris Cullum]

>From other similar cranks on eBay it looks like it's a "Race X Lite" MTB
crank.

On Nov 15, 2016 10:26 AM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:

> This is the crank that is now on the Matthews, was on the Race Lite, and
> that will be replaced with the Logic. I want to sell it, but haven't been
> successful in identifying the model and time period, or the original price.
>
> Can anyone help? The crank *is* market "Gigapipe," the arms are carbon
> fiber, the bcds are 104 and 64, and the rings are aftermarket.
>
> Anyway, it will be for sale either complete with rings (44, 40, 26),  or
> rings separately, and arms only with bearings separately.
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[John]

I have the Compass Barlow Pass tires on my 54cm Hunq, and albatross bars.

I love 'em!

John

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[RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Eric Karnes]

i have an old shimano. i think it's a 105, but i'll double check when i get 
home tonight. it's yours if you want to cover the shipping cost.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 1:16:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I need a shifter that fits on a standard boss. These SunTours require 
> their proprietary boss, part of the clamp. 
>
> A Shimano would be nice, but anything pretty, silver, and that doesn't 
> loosen regularly.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Tim Gavin]

I agree; I love Thunder Burts.  I have a set of 26 x 2.1" Liteskins on my
'88 Schwinn KOM.

The TBs feel about as fast as my Schwalbe Super Moto tires, which are about
95% as fast as the best supple tires I've ridden (Pari-Moto, GB Cerf,
Lierre, Compass Stampede Pass).

What makes the Thunder Burts exceptional is that they're fast, but they
still have a reasonable amount of tread for occasional dirt wanderings.
Mine feel great on a local lazy singletrack. The TBs have great cushion and
enough traction; they only get squirrely if the trail is muddy.

Whereas, the Super Moto and Compass RTP tires have no tread.  I washed out
the front Super Moto tire a couple times on twisty singletrack.  The SM and
RTP are great for gravel and pavement, but not dirt.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
4824...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was riding 50mm Marathon Supremes for the summer but put on some
> Schwalbe Thunderburts (29 x2.1) for the Fall and I am rather amazed at how
> efficient they feel on the roadthey almost feel better than the
> Supremes?!
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 12:17:01 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>>
>> i had the snoqualmie pass 44s on my hunq but they were way smaller than i
>> expected so i took them off instantly and went back to 55 big bens. it just
>> felt inappropriate to have such a small tire on there, and i have a true
>> road bike so i am not relegated to making a dirt touring bike into one.
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:34:56 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the
>>> George Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I
>>> pulled up alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we
>>> got to talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me
>>> thinking about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I
>>> mostly ride on pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York
>>> pavement).
>>>
>>>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are
>>> you running?
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Garth]

   Apparently, you can cold set 753, given the person has some experience 
in doing so. I ran across this (reply #57) ... 
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/613041-126-130mm-should-i-have-framebuilder-cold-set-frame-3.html



Ah, the misguided Reynolds 753 cold set myth. I say this to keep 753 frames 
> from being scraped as they are lovely rides.
>
> Yes, I know the Reynolds engineers placed a warning not to cold set and 
> the internet repeats. Being a mechanical engineer I know how wrong 
> engineers can be and how a skilled and experienced craftsman can do wonders.
>
> So when I rescued a 753r frame with slightly bent forks and a slightly 
> bent frame I gave it a try. Got the forks lined up pretty straight on my 
> cast iron table but as soon as I mounted the bike and started riding I was 
> back to dangerous pulling left and the same bent forks. I am sloAh, the 
> misguided Reynolds 753 cold set myth. I say this to keep 753 frames from 
> being scraped as they are lovely rides.
>
> Yes, I know the Reynolds engineers placed a warning not to cold set and 
> the internet repeats. Being a mechanical engineer I know how wrong 
> engineers can be and how a skilled and experienced craftsman can do wonders.
>
> So when I rescued a 753r frame with slightly bent forks and a slightly 
> bent frame I gave it a try. Got the forks lined up pretty straight on my 
> cast iron table but as soon as I mounted the bike and started riding I was 
> back to dangerous pulling left and the same bent forks. I am slow so did 
> this three times .
>
> Took the frame to our local builder and he said no worries, back in the 
> day we cold set these all the time. Mounted on
> his Marchetti table imported from Italy the frame was straightened and the 
> fork likewise on his custom fork table.
> The bike rides beautifully. w so did this three times .
>
> Took the frame to our local builder and he said no worries, back in the 
> day we cold set these all the time. Mounted on
> his Marchetti table imported from Italy the frame was straightened and the 
> fork likewise on his custom fork table.
> The bike rides beautifully. 




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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road Standard - spreading the stays?

[Garth]

 Do read the rest of the above link also, as it's noted the framebuilder 
must have a precision alignment table. I personally know of one in Ohio, 
Franklin frames, but do not know how common it is to have one, they are 
rather pricey I was told by Jack, the one man show @ Franklin.

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[RBW] Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[mike smith]

Has anyone riden both?  How do they compare & contrast?

I have a 59cm Clem and I'm considering a 58 Joe.  91 PBH.

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[RBW] Re: Want a San Marcos!

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I bought a 51 once I read that they were going to be discontinued.  An 
internet search brought up one NOS at a bike shop in CA.  It was the older 
model but I preferred the color of the paint on that one anyway.  I can 
tell you that a year ago it was getting hard to find a 51 in stock of any 
vintage.  Good luck in your search!  I really enjoy mine.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 11:50:05 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Ashwath did you see my post on internetbob about BicycleClassics? They may 
> have a 51cm frame left still
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 11:36:18 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>>
>> Hello folks, 
>>
>> Long time lurker, first time poster.  Have much enjoyed the discussions 
>> and pictures here. 
>>
>> Big fan of Rev bikes.  Have finally decided to build San Marcos. 
>>  However, I'm having a hard time finding a 51cm size frame.  None of the 
>> distributors, dealers and stores seem to have one.  Any suggestions where I 
>> might be able to source one?   Also, anybody here interested in selling 
>> theirs? Let me know :)  Cheers.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[lum gim fong]

Thanks everyone!

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[RBW] Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[iamkeith]

I've been interested in the same question/answer, for the exact same sizes you 
list.  For those responding with first-hand experience, please discuss 
handlebar choice.  I suspect - but could be wrong - that the bosco bar is not a 
viable option for the appaloosa.

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[Max S]

How wide did the Snoqs measure?.. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[mike smith]

Your rendering in Bikecad on another post helped some. the Joe looks to be 
about 2 CM shorter (length) and possibly 1 cm shorter (standover). Does 
that sound about right?

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 2:51:33 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I've been interested in the same question/answer, for the exact same sizes 
> you list.  For those responding with first-hand experience, please discuss 
> handlebar choice.  I suspect - but could be wrong - that the bosco bar is 
> not a viable option for the appaloosa.

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[RBW] FS: Chainrings, BB, Headset, and Crankset

[Keith Muller]

Headset is sold

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[RBW] Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[Joe Bernard]

My experience is with a 46 Clem which I sold, and my current 51 Appaloosa. 
Honestly, I think you would have to really want to find differences in ride to 
find them: They both are commuter/touring/light-trail oriented designs with 
long stays, similar tubing diameters and canti/v-brake mounts. 

The big difference I see is literally what I see..joining method. The Appaloosa 
is fully lugged, doesn't have the swoopy seatstays required by Clem's seat lug, 
and has a very cool fork crown reminiscent of old 3-speed Raleighs.

I think if you like one bike you'll like the other, but there's definitely a 
lot of overlap in ride and capabilities, so make sure you're interested in 
duplicating abilities. The Appaloosa will have a shorter toptube relative to 
similar size Clem, so this may be a quality you're looking for. 

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Can you identify this crank?

[Ryan Fleming]

Uhhh Bontrager ? and also has FSA stamped on it...so wouldn't FSA be the 
maker ? I know about Keith Bontrager and know he designed components in 
addition to frames...not sure what you're asking about, exactly

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> This is the crank that is now on the Matthews, was on the Race Lite, and 
> that will be replaced with the Logic. I want to sell it, but haven't been 
> successful in identifying the model and time period, or the original price.
>
> Can anyone help? The crank *is* market "Gigapipe," the arms are carbon 
> fiber, the bcds are 104 and 64, and the rings are aftermarket.
>
> Anyway, it will be for sale either complete with rings (44, 40, 26),  or 
> rings separately, and arms only with bearings separately.
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Can you identify this crank?

[Patrick Moore]

Of course, but can anyone tell me the model and the year and perhaps the
original cost?

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> Uhhh Bontrager ? and also has FSA stamped on it...so wouldn't FSA be the
> maker ? I know about Keith Bontrager and know he designed components in
> addition to frames...not sure what you're asking about, exactly
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 12:26:15 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> This is the crank that is now on the Matthews, was on the Race Lite, and
>> that will be replaced with the Logic. I want to sell it, but haven't been
>> successful in identifying the model and time period, or the original price.
>>
>> Can anyone help? The crank *is* market "Gigapipe," the arms are carbon
>> fiber, the bcds are 104 and 64, and the rings are aftermarket.
>>
>> Anyway, it will be for sale either complete with rings (44, 40, 26),  or
>> rings separately, and arms only with bearings separately.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Can you identify this crank?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. Will try looking under this rubric.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Chris Cullum 
wrote:

> From other similar cranks on eBay it looks like it's a "Race X Lite" MTB
> crank.
>
> On Nov 15, 2016 10:26 AM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>
>> This is the crank that is now on the Matthews, was on the Race Lite, and
>> that will be replaced with the Logic. I want to sell it, but haven't been
>> successful in identifying the model and time period, or the original price.
>>
>> Can anyone help? The crank *is* market "Gigapipe," the arms are carbon
>> fiber, the bcds are 104 and 64, and the rings are aftermarket.
>>
>> Anyway, it will be for sale either complete with rings (44, 40, 26),  or
>> rings separately, and arms only with bearings separately.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Patrick Moore]

Eric -- thanks very much for the offer. I ought to have specified further
that I'd like to get something that is friction only (or ratcheting), and
not with the index stuff bulking out the pivot. I admit it, I'm
superficial, I like shiny bits of metal.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Eric Karnes  wrote:

> i have an old shimano. i think it's a 105, but i'll double check when i
> get home tonight. it's yours if you want to cover the shipping cost.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 1:16:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I need a shifter that fits on a standard boss. These SunTours require
>> their proprietary boss, part of the clamp.
>>
>> A Shimano would be nice, but anything pretty, silver, and that doesn't
>> loosen regularly.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[lum gim fong]

*About the paint:*

If I recall correctly, the original owner said he bought it from a 
Rivdealer in Virginia.

He said that at that time, the frame's original fork was removed by the 
Rivdealer and given to another Rambouillet customer for a fork warranty 
issue on that person's Rambouillet. The Rivdealer then ordered a new fork 
for the original owner of this bike from RBW. RBW sent an unpainted fork 
out to the shop. The original owner bought the bike with the original paint 
frame, and unpainted replacement Rivfork.
He knew a pro custom auto painter, or something, who shot the fork and I 
think he also did that nice lug lining.

So the frame paint is original. The fork and lug lining is a custom paint 
job.

*About the rack:*
I bent a VO Randotang up and over the calipers pretty easily with my hands 
and a table vise for my Bleriot bike. I leveled the rack out so that it 
sits right on top of my Bleriot's front Honjo where it is affixed to the 
rack eyelet. So it worked out great for the Bleriot. Hopefully just as easy 
on the Rambouillet.

*About the long stays to dropouts connection:*
Do the long legs increase flex or sway?
Do they stiffen the fork, resulting in less fork flex/shock 
absorption while riding?
Definitely looks cleaner!

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[RBW] Re: Can you identify this crank?

[Garth]

Howz 'bout this :   
http://www.mtbr.com/cat/drivetrain/crankset/bontrager/race-x-lite-gxp/prd_366003_115crx.aspx




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[RBW] S3X: trade for fixed/fixed hub? Riding it geared to 95-71-59

[Patrick Moore]

The lash, I just can't take the lash. I'm so used to feathering the pedals
either to keep up and, so to speak, "coast" without adding torque, or to
retard speed, and I can't do that with the S3X -- the cranks just rattle
back and forth against the driver. It's hugely annoying.

So, if anyone wants to trade a 126 mm OL S3X in v good condition (I am
second owner, but first put it only to light use; me, I just added 30 miles
today to the 20 I earlier put on it) for a fixed/fixed hub, I'd like to
talk.

That said, I geared it 95-71-59 with a 12 t cog (46 X 12 X 24.75" wheel.
You have to use small spacers because the SA spacers and lockring would
interfere with chain action on the small 12 t cog) and took it up Tramway,
a nice 30 mile rt with a good 6-7 miles of climbing out of the river valley
to near the foothills; Cyclemeter gives a total el gain of 1319 feet. (As
for Strave, I somehow stupidly got it set on running, but you will be
pleased to know that I can maintain a 5:01 average pace for 30 miles
including the climb.) Per Cyclemeter, outbound speed, clock running, was
11.54 miles per hour, including a 2 minute wait at a busy intersection; and
18.78 mph on the return.

So: is having Sturmey Archer's famous "1 gear for cruising, one gear for
climbing, one gear for descending, one gear to rule them all, and in the
darkness bind them" rule really practical?

Well, I could sit a bit more while using the 59", but in fact I found
myself doing a lot of the climb standing in the 71, and used the 59 mostly
standing at the steepest mile and a half or 2 miles mid climb. There *is* more
drag in bottom; spin the wheel in the stand while the hub is in 1st, and it
slows faster than a front with a dynamo hub. And it "feels" different, too
-- even 2d, 71, feels different, but I could not swear in court of law to
feeling drag. It just feels "indirect" somehow.

At any rate, collating Pro's and Con's, I'd have to give the hub a + for
climbing; it was easier than using a direct drive fixed 70" gear all of the
way.

Downhill: Undecided. It's odd, I've not used a gear higher than about 80"
for years -- even on my derailleur bikes, which have gears in the low to
mid 80s, I generally spin out in a mid 70s gear, the highest I am likely to
use on the flats barring big tail winds, and simply coast when I run out of
r's pm. But with the 95, man, I just sat up and let the pedals roll over --
until I got to the steeper parts where I had to work to keep up with the
speed. From a general awareness of cadence, I am pretty confident I topped
out at over 120 rpm, so at least 35 mph; and that was the annoying thing:
once again, I couldn't feather the pedals; I was either behind and banging
the driver, or ahead and working to hard.

I would have to say that I'd rather feather the pedals at 25 mph in a
direct 75" gear than contend with the lash when speeds outstrip even a 95"
gear. OTOH, where the slope didn't cause the bike to outrun 100 rpm in the
95, it was sit up and enjoy the scenery.

And, also, I got what is perhaps a real glimpse of that weird 33% overdrive
that SA put into the AW, and which I've loudly pondered and analyzed for
years. When your speed is higher than you can comfortably keep up with in
your cruising gear, and the road is flat and smooth, and the wind is nil or
perhaps slightly biased toward your direction of travel; then shove it in
High and sit up and pedal slowly at 60 rpm -- it's surprisingly
comfortable, easy, and energy saving. Of course, immediately that you hit a
rise, or a wind, it's back to twiddling at a 25% reduction.

So, upshot? I'd have to say that I would much prefer a second fixed wheel
with a slightly lower cruise -- say 70" instead of 76"; and on the flip
side, a Dingle for 67" and 60". That would be a perfect setup for longer
(by my standards) rides, while the 76"/67" wheel would do for most of my
riding.

But if no one wants this S3X, I will keep it and keep it geared 95-71-59
instead of 76'57-48 as it was before.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Can you identify this crank?

[Patrick Moore]

That's it; many thanks.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Garth  wrote:

>
> Howz 'bout this :   http://www.mtbr.com/cat/drivetrain/crankset/bontrager/
> race-x-lite-gxp/prd_366003_115crx.aspx
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Eric Karnes]

If you are looking for left side (fd), it is friction only. It's an older 
shifter set (late 80s), from the period when they were indexed or friction for 
the rear and friction only for the front.

Anyhow, these are the model:

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=f1ffd428-1fc8-454d-999b-f0a4462e1260&Enum=104

If their not what you're looking for, no worries. Just lemme know.

Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Eric Karnes]

*they're

stupid autocorrect.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Eric, but I'd need the right side shifter -- this is for a S3X 3
speed hub.

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> *they're
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> stupid autocorrect.
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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[William R.]

I have the Snoqualmie pass tires on my Appaloosa. Been riding them for a while 
now and they still measure 41mm on rims as narrow as velocity twin hollows and 
as wide as the stock wheels that came with the complete Appaloosa. They ride 
really nice though and feel bigger than they are when riding through the ruts. 
I alternate between these tires and 2.1 Liteskin T-burts. Lately, when back on 
the Burts I pine for the Snoqs.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Howard! Problem solved.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Howard! Problem solved.

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[Christopher Cote]

I placed an order on Sunday evening. Their new web store is much improved 
over the old one! Kudos to Riv for the upgrade.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
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> I still can't open the new web site.  I get a message dated 11/7 telling 
> me it will be back up on  11/8.  Are others experiencing this too?
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[adam leibow]

I dont know how wide they measured but definitely felt pretty narrow, 41 
seems OTM (on the money)

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 8:34:56 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> I saw a fellow riding a Hunqapillar on Old River Road north of the George 
> Washington Bridge this weekend. He was moving at a decent clip. I pulled up 
> alongside him, mentioned I was a fellow Hunqapillar rider, and we got to 
> talking. He runs 38mm compass tires on his Hunq, which got me thinking 
> about how common this setup is. I have 50mm Schwalbes, but I mostly ride on 
> pavement (detritus-strewn, crater-pocked Metro New York pavement). 
>
>  Anyone else riding their Hunq mostly on pavement? If so, what tires are 
> you running?

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[stonehog]

If I were buying strictly road tires for my Hunqa, I would go with the 
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/tires/700c/compass-700c-x-44-snoqualmie-pass/
 
tires mentioned above.  I have been riding the Thunder Burt 2.1 lites 
tubeless, and they are also amazing on the road, but there is some noise 
from the tread.  For me, they are perfect as a mixed road/gravel option, 
and since I generally use this bike as an all-rounder commuter/camper, I 
like to have some tread.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 3:10:07 PM UTC-8, William R. wrote:
>
> I have the Snoqualmie pass tires on my Appaloosa. Been riding them for a 
> while now and they still measure 41mm on rims as narrow as velocity twin 
> hollows and as wide as the stock wheels that came with the complete 
> Appaloosa. They ride really nice though and feel bigger than they are when 
> riding through the ruts. I alternate between these tires and 2.1 Liteskin 
> T-burts. Lately, when back on the Burts I pine for the Snoqs.
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY
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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Dave Johnston]

Several years before I owned a Rivendell I discovered that long hard days 
in the saddle just wasn't for me, that was also before I discovered Brook 
saddles and handlebars above the saddle, so discomfort was part of the 
experience. Of course no use trying for more now that I realize that long 
hard days aren't even good for you:
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/08/23/extreme-endurance-exercise.aspx
 


So anyway longest ride on a Riv: Somewhere around 70 miles on Heron 
Touring, as part of a multi day ride.
I do love an all day ramble with lots of photo ops, ice cream stops, BSing 
and checking places out. Maybe 35 miles in 6hrs is about right for a 
rambleneur.

-Dave J



On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he 
> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>
> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, 
> even if it wasn't.
>
> 
>
> 1000K is the farthest I have successfully completed.  I'm 2 out of 3 at 
> that distance, the one failing due to a mechanical that could not be easily 
> solved in a geographically remote area of Texas.  (stripped crank bolt and 
> rounded crank arm interface).
>
> 1000K is easier to compartmentalize into seeming just a day longer than a 
> 600K. On a flat-ish one like I did most recently in 2014, I was in all 
> three days around midnight-12:30, so I got some sleep too and still 
> finished 9 and a half hours under the 75 hour time limit.  It still seemed 
> a bit long on the third day, I was telling the guys and gals I was riding 
> with that "It just seems like we ride our bikes all day every day" but 
> overall it was a manageable distance and we finished that ride in good 
> spirits.
>
> I admit to wanting to quit my first 1000K in 2007 at times but it was the 
> point to point Portland to Glacier ride, so if I wanted to quit, I was 
> going to have to hitch hike in remote areas of Washington, Idaho and 
> Montana.  Continuing to ride seemed like a better option at the time, so I 
> did.
>
> I have made a couple of attempts at 1200K, but failed in both, quit on or 
> end of the first day.  It's really in my head.  Mentally for some reason it 
> seems much more daunting than a 1000K, that extra 200K manifesting itself 
> as a 4th day on the bike gets to your psyche if you're having a tough 
> time.  I was miserable in the cold and rain in France in 2007 without 
> fenders.  I was 36 at that time and less mature, I really wanted to go 
> drink more wine and try to meet Parisian women, which of course didn't 
> happen.  The second part, I mean. The other time, I got psyched out by 
> looming spectre of the Salinas Valley headwind in California in 2014 after 
> I slept in on Day 2, just decided to sleep in and go visit family rather 
> than continue riding.  
>
> I also do better when I'm riding with people that I frequently ride with 
> with out of the Texas clubs, because I know their riding paces and habits, 
> how long they'll take at controls, etc.  In neither 1200K I attempted did I 
> have those people around me save for one rider in California but she was on 
> a recumbent, so it wasn't a great match.  Maybe next time I just need to 
> pay for a rando friend's registration and travel expenses that I know I can 
> get along with, won't quit the ride and will push me to keep going when the 
> going gets hard.
>
>
> Jim
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[Patrick Moore]

Well, that certainly leaves me safe!

But this:

Our Paleolithic ancestors

did
lots of walking, with occasional sprints, but not extended running. They
would run long enough to escape the clutches of a tiger, but there were no
marathons happening across the African savanna.

And their source for this very personal information is what, exactly? The
Bible?

I've read in 18th century settlers' accounts how Indians would run a good
part of the day to run deer until it could run no more; in other words,
they outlasted it, just as wolves do. One such account was by a farm boy,
18th century, who was captured by and lived with a NE tribe for several
years. I also read how, much later, late 20th century, a Navajo priest, 70
years old, set off after a visit, at about 10 pm, to run to another
settlement some 20 or 30 miles away.

And of course the Zulu impis were notorious or celebrated, depending
whether you were Cetshwayo* or Gen. Chelmsford, for covering 40 miles in a
day.

And I've personally seen little, 5'6", 125 lb Sherpas carrying 100+ lb
loads (5 big kerosene tins on a heavy wooden frame) all day up mountain
tracks at 16K feet -- while whistling and smoking.

So, while I rather think these "experts" are on to something, some of their
"evidence" is, as someone cruelly put it, "Just So Stories."(Unless it
comes from Scripture.)

*Now there was a man who looked like a ruler! A cruel bastard, but an
imposing one -- far more so than the effete Chelmsford.



On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:

> Several years before I owned a Rivendell I discovered that long hard days
> in the saddle just wasn't for me, that was also before I discovered Brook
> saddles and handlebars above the saddle, so discomfort was part of the
> experience. Of course no use trying for more now that I realize that long
> hard days aren't even good for you:
> http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/08/23/
> extreme-endurance-exercise.aspx
> 
>
> So anyway longest ride on a Riv: Somewhere around 70 miles on Heron
> Touring, as part of a multi day ride.
> I do love an all day ramble with lots of photo ops, ice cream stops, BSing
> and checking places out. Maybe 35 miles in 6hrs is about right for a
> rambleneur.
>
> -Dave J
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he
>> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>>
>> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified,
>> even if it wasn't.
>>
>> 
>>
>> 1000K is the farthest I have successfully completed.  I'm 2 out of 3 at
>> that distance, the one failing due to a mechanical that could not be easily
>> solved in a geographically remote area of Texas.  (stripped crank bolt and
>> rounded crank arm interface).
>>
>> 1000K is easier to compartmentalize into seeming just a day longer than a
>> 600K. On a flat-ish one like I did most recently in 2014, I was in all
>> three days around midnight-12:30, so I got some sleep too and still
>> finished 9 and a half hours under the 75 hour time limit.  It still seemed
>> a bit long on the third day, I was telling the guys and gals I was riding
>> with that "It just seems like we ride our bikes all day every day" but
>> overall it was a manageable distance and we finished that ride in good
>> spirits.
>>
>> I admit to wanting to quit my first 1000K in 2007 at times but it was the
>> point to point Portland to Glacier ride, so if I wanted to quit, I was
>> going to have to hitch hike in remote areas of Washington, Idaho and
>> Montana.  Continuing to ride seemed like a better option at the time, so I
>> did.
>>
>> I have made a couple of attempts at 1200K, but failed in both, quit on or
>> end of the first day.  It's really in my head.  Mentally for some reason it
>> seems much more daunting than a 1000K, that extra 200K manifesting itself
>> as a 4th day on the bike gets to your psyche if you're having a tough
>> time.  I was miserable in the cold and rain in France in 2007 without
>> fenders.  I was 36 at that time and less mature, I really wanted to go
>> drink more wine and try to meet Parisian women, which of course didn't
>> happen.  The second part, I mean. The other time, I got psyched out by
>> looming spectre of the Salinas Valley headwind in California in 2014 after
>> I slept in on Day 2, just decided to sleep in and go visit family rather
>> than continue riding.
>>
>> I also do better when I'm riding with people that I frequently ride with
>> with out of the Texas clubs, because I know their riding paces and habits,
>> how long they'll take at controls, etc.  In neither 1200K I attempted

[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[tresbambi...@gmail.com]

I had the same curiosity and so ordered both.  I found them both to be 
wonderful dream bikes, but in very different ways (apologies to Joe :-)

The Clem says, "Let's go play!  Let's ride off the curb, onto the dirt 
trail, then across town and explore on our way to pick up groceries.  Then, 
maybe if you're nice, we can grab a beer at Paul's on the way home!"

The Joe whispers, "First, let's do a 60 miler for a warm up.  Then, we'll 
go to your mother's in Mississippi by way of Cleveland. Next, we'll head to 
the Big Apple by way of California. Those dirt & gravel roads, limestone 
trails, potholed highways?  No Problem, I gotcha covered.

I find the Clem to be fun, practical, & steady.  I'm a kid on my banana 
seated Sting Ray again.

The Appaloosa is exquisite.  It's simply the most amazing, calm, inspiring 
capable bike I've ever ridden (yes, even including my other Rivs) but I 
don't feel quite as tempted to ride off the curbs and into the brush with 
it as my Clem, though I'm sure it would oblige me.  The bike you get for 
the cost is an unbelievable deal in my opinion & I do a double take 
whenever I see a used one for sale.  The ONLY fault I can find with the Joe 
is that a taller size isn't offered.  Someday, Grant, pretty-pretty 
plze??

Okay, so there you have my two cents worth.  Hope you're tempted to get one!

Al


On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 3:57:42 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> My experience is with a 46 Clem which I sold, and my current 51 Appaloosa. 
> Honestly, I think you would have to really want to find differences in ride 
> to find them: They both are commuter/touring/light-trail oriented designs 
> with long stays, similar tubing diameters and canti/v-brake mounts. 
>
> The big difference I see is literally what I see..joining method. The 
> Appaloosa is fully lugged, doesn't have the swoopy seatstays required by 
> Clem's seat lug, and has a very cool fork crown reminiscent of old 3-speed 
> Raleighs.
>
> I think if you like one bike you'll like the other, but there's definitely 
> a lot of overlap in ride and capabilities, so make sure you're interested 
> in duplicating abilities. The Appaloosa will have a shorter toptube 
> relative to similar size Clem, so this may be a quality you're looking for. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
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[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[El Sapo]

I've ridden them both but I have a Clem, so I'm biased. They are different 
rides. The Joe felt like a road bike to me. Not a bad thing, just something 
that I'm not into anymore. I prefer the cushy fat tire ride and love the 
650b wheels/tires on my Clem. After riding the Joe, I had them pull out a 
set of the chocco bars to see if they would work on my Clem? They just 
looked wrong. Love those chocco bars.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 11:21:30 AM UTC-8, mike smith wrote:

> Has anyone riden both?  How do they compare & contrast?
>
> I have a 59cm Clem and I'm considering a 58 Joe.  91 PBH.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: SunTour Power Ratchet clamp on dt shifter pair for single, left side friction dt shifter, no clamp required

[Frank Brose]

So you need a right side friction shifter? I might have one I'd trade with 
you as I actually need a pair of DT clamp on friction shifters. I'll know 
in the morning.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 4:42:45 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Eric, but I'd need the right side shifter -- this is for a S3X 3 
> speed hub.
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Eric Karnes  > wrote:
>
>> *they're
>>
>> stupid autocorrect.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue Rambouillet 650b conversion complete! Rambouilleriot!!

[lum gim fong]

Tim Gavin, that's a beautiful red color and looks great with the cream head 
tube!!

What type of rear brake pads are you using? Are they Thinlines? Looks like you 
have the Paul Racer brake set? Also what kind of pads are using on the front 
brake?

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[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[Joe Bernard]

That's an interesting perspective, Al. Regardless of the similarity in 
ride/capability I experienced with both bikes, I would agree that Clem has more 
of a "bash about" personality, simply by nature of its semi-welded construction 
and lower price. In reality they can both do the same stuff, but I definitely 
treat my Appaloosa as a more delicate object. Unnecessarily. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem vs Appaloosa ride comparison

[Joe Bernard]

El Sapo: My 51 Appa has fat 650b tires and I totally agree, it's a wonderful 
way to ride. The 52 Clem I rode at RBW with similar wheels was great, too. 

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