[RBW] Re: Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Nerl L.]

Hello All,
Thanks for all the helpful replies!  I posted an earlier reply, with some 
pics (of another bike), which is either still awaiting moderation, or got 
lost.
Kai, I hope you are not in pain!  I've been following your posts regarding 
tubeless, I think I need to study up!
Dorothy, may I trouble you to refer that ebay wheel vendor to me?
Patrick, my Clem is shipping out next week.  I'll be sure to keep you 
updated.  Pics of my 80's Dawes (alas, about to be demoted to second 
string) are what held up my earlier post. 

More later, enjoy the holiday!
Best,
Noah

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[RBW] Re: Clem H mustard pics

[Weston Hein]

Wowww black parts look so good on the Mustard! And that rack just tops it 
all of, awesome build!

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Joe Bernard]

I don't think so. I asked on Instagram (I think Will runs it) if they would fit 
a Paul mount and he said I would need the (discontinued) adapter. 

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Jeffrey B]

Any chance these are compatible with sunrace Thumb shifter mounts? Asking for a 
friend...

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Ian A]

Really nice, Joe. I love the detail given to the black parts. The rack is 
really attractive in that finish. Top notch build.

IanA

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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Ian A]

Thanks Eric! I didn't spot the fact the rims have a brake track. As you all 
were

IanA (needing more sleep in Alberta Canada).

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[James Warren]

Yes, exciting. I tested them out at Riv the other day, and I like them a lot. 
Very nice under the bar positioning as thumbshifters.



> On Nov 27, 2019, at 7:45 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the 
> holidays:  
> 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451
> 
> The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work as 
> bar ends & down tubes.  Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a spare 
> pair "just in case".  Shifters sold individually so you can do all sorts of 
> crazy things.  See the website for which-goes-where.  
> 
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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Bob B]

Ugh please excuse my sloppy phone typing!

Bob B
Brooklyn NY

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Bob B]

Noah, what size wheelset do you need? Which size clem did you get? If it was 
the 52/650b model i may have. Wheelset for a good price. If you’re interested 
pm me.

Bob B.
Brooklyn NY

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[RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[dougP]

The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the 
holidays:  

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451

The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work as 
bar ends & down tubes.  Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a spare 
pair "just in case".  Shifters sold individually so you can do all sorts of 
crazy things.  See the website for which-goes-where.  

dougP

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Joe Bernard]

Golden Boy it is!!! 

"THAT SADDLE"

Hand-hammered copper rivets, ti rails y'all. Joe don't play! 😁

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

You should call it “Golden Boy!”

 I think two things:

1. Your Clem’s mustard is nicer than the other mustards somehow.

2. THAT SADDLE. 🤩

That is all. Carry on.

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Paul Clifton]

I bought those wheels and have been riding them hard on my MTBubbe. They were 
true and round out of the box and have stayed that way for over 100 miles of 
Rocky single track and jumps.

I set them up tubeless with Neo Motos. They work fine. I did have to build up 
the rim bed with 2 to 3 layers of tape, but the seal is holding without a 
problem.

It's a great value for a very versatile wheelset.

Paul in Fayetteville AR

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

[PaulS]

Looks like Gus is almost sold out with 54 and 57 in Blue remaining. Suz is sold 
out only in the largest 59. 

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 on a Roadini?

[Jeff B]

I have a Specialized Sequoia with 1x11 but my Roadini is 2x11. 

My Roadini has a gear inch spread of 29.1" to 114" on 700/32 with a 46/30 & 
11/28. 

The Sequoia has a gear inch spread of 26.9" to 103" on 650B/47 with a 42 & 
11/42. 

They both use SRAM Force and feel great. I really dig the simplicity of 1x 
but find myself using only a small section of the cassette, which might 
promote accelerated wear. I never really spin out though and always can 
climb hills if needed. I really never use the 46/11 on my Roadini unless 
I'm really going downhill so I find that the spread is a little more 
useable on the Sequoia. with a 42t chainring. I don't mind the gaps in the 
cassette either, you use your legs more to power through small hills and 
spend less time shifting. For centuries and light rondo it would be perfect.

If you wanted to play around and can get to Walnut Creek, Harry's Roadini 
has SRAM Force 1x on it, although the bike is quite large (57 or 61)



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[RBW] Re: WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Pancake]

Great idea, this is just the sort of creative suggestion this list 
generates, thanks! I'll keep looking for those ... maybe someone here has a 
crankset and some chainrings like that they want to sell?
Abe

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 3:21:38 PM UTC-8, Nick Payne wrote:
>
> I'd look for some old five arm 94 BCD MTB cranks. If they're 94/58 BCD, 
> just ignore the 58 bolt circle and fit the 46/30 on the 94 bolt circle. 
> I've picked up a couple of these cranksets cheap off fleabay. For instance, 
> here's a right hand 94 BCD 175mm Shimano crank for $11: 
> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Shimano-STX-FC-MC30-Right-Hand-Crank-Arm-175mm-Square-Taper-94mm-BCD-Silver/372699049001
>  
> - and find an LH square taper crank in the same length.
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Carla Waugh]

I love your bike and the mustard color is one of my favorite.

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Patrick Moore]

Well, perfectionist that I am, at least I know that this imperfection is
shared by others; what do they call that vice ... a form of envy?

I should back off the tension in the hinge; in fact, will go it now before
I forget.

Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:59 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yes the play is normal. I don't know the mechanics of all this, but I've
> heard stories of people adjusting it too tight and breaking stuff in there.
> You want it snug enough that the frame itself isn't actually moving around,
> but not hurting your hand to close it.
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Re: [RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Patrick Moore]

I hadn't thought of mustard as a nice color for a bike, but yours turned
out very nicely indeed.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:38 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Thanks Doug! I'm honestly a little startled how well it came out. That
> color *really* responds to black parts and dark-tan-almost-red sidewalls.
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[RBW] Re: Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Adam Leibow]

if it were me, i would see if i could find a used wheelset at the same 
pricepoint but with more classic parts (non-disc hubs, more silver parts). 
you could, as someone else mentioned, do a want-to-buy post for a wheelset 
at $150. 

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:11:47 AM UTC-8, Nerl L. wrote:
>
> Hello All, 
>
> I have been lurking here for a bit, but now with a new Clem frame set on 
> the way, I am posting for the first time.
>
>
> I’m a commuter in NYC, where the streets can be, um, bumpy.  I ride daily 
> in all weather, but distances aren’t high, usually 5 to 30 miles a day.  I 
> am also not wealthy, so I’m trying to build this bike in a sensible but 
> economical way.  I will put money towards parts that need higher quality, 
> but will always look for ways to cut cost.
>
>
> Regarding wheels, I’m a bit stunned by the range in prices.  please tell 
> me why I shouldn’t buy this 
> 
>  
> cheap set?  If not and if you were me, what would you look at?
>
>
> Finally, if anyone has parts they would part with, I’m in the market!  Swept 
> back, low- or no-rise bars, like the Billie or Albatross.  Brakes, racks, 
> derailleurs, etc.  Consumable drive train parts I’ll buy new.  I’ve got a 
> crankset, brake levers and shifters so far.
>
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Noah
>

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Doug! I'm honestly a little startled how well it came out. That color 
*really* responds to black parts and dark-tan-almost-red sidewalls. 

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Joe Bernard]

Noah, check my FS post for derailers cheap. That XT rear and Microshift front 
would fit your frame and look and work good doing it. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/seBHs_LTsaM

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[RBW] Re: WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Nick Payne]

I'd look for some old five arm 94 BCD MTB cranks. If they're 94/58 BCD, 
just ignore the 58 bolt circle and fit the 46/30 on the 94 bolt circle. 
I've picked up a couple of these cranksets cheap off fleabay. For instance, 
here's a right hand 94 BCD 175mm Shimano crank for $11: 
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Shimano-STX-FC-MC30-Right-Hand-Crank-Arm-175mm-Square-Taper-94mm-BCD-Silver/372699049001
 
- and find an LH square taper crank in the same length.

Nick

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[Joe Bernard]

"A frame I prayed out." That's supposed to be "parted out", but Leah Bicycle 
Belle will appreciate it 🙏😂

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[RBW] Clem H mustard pics

[DHans]

Really nice build Joe. That’s about perfect in my estimation. 
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Joe Bernard]

Yes the play is normal. I don't know the mechanics of all this, but I've heard 
stories of people adjusting it too tight and breaking stuff in there. You want 
it snug enough that the frame itself isn't actually moving around, but not 
hurting your hand to close it.  

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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[PaulS]

Herse cranks are a thing of beauty. I would personally go 107mm cranks if the 
chainrings clear and you won’t have heel rub issues. Since you’re going to 
utilize big-big combo at times, it makes sense to move the big chainring 
inboard a bit. 

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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[Jason Fuller]

Yes, get the Herse cranks!  I am certain you will be happy you did. As for 
BB length, I installed mine on the BB that my Sam Hillborne came with 
(113??? No idea actually, website doesn't say and I didn't measure) and 
with the 46-30 it was nearly touching the frame, probably 0.5mm clearance, 
though it never touched.  I since put a 26T on which has good clearance.  
Smaller rings are not only great for hills, but they get that Q factor as 
low as possible!

I only have 200 km on my Sam, but it is PERFECT in my opinion with the 
Herse cranks and Campagnolo Athena 11 group set.  I think it's a bit more 
extravagant than Grant would recommend, purely because from his Spock-like 
logical thinking, it is unnecessary to spend more than the Silvers. True, 
it's not necessary.  But the extra cost is well spent, in my opinion!  

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Patrick Moore]

Interesting comparison between BF and Dahon -- not that I know Fridays, but
I've always thought of them as "real" bikes, and thought Dahons suffer all
sorts of compromises because of their folding design and price points.
While my Dahon Hon Solo -- an upper-end chromo limited edition model -- is
decent and, after many modifications, is pleasant to ride, it certainly
does not feel lively compared to my "real" bikes.

That said, I also have never found my Dahon darty or awkward in handling --
I've used 30 mm-or-so Kojaks and, presently, 40 mm-or-so PowerBands (the
PBs are nicer. Am I right in thinking that these are simply variations on
the Power Block?). It handles like a non-optimum road bike and, in fact,
the sluggishness that I feel compared to my Rivs and Matthews has to do
with pedaling effort. (Again, the PowerBands roll a bit better than the
Kojaks, and those rolled a lot better than the horrible OEM Marathon
Racers. And, note, that my drivetrain (obviously) is ss fixed; no great
weight in the rear.

Question: Do you other Dahon owners find that it is hard to adjust the main
boom-tube hinge perfectly, and once adjusted, keep it that way? Even when I
adjust it frighteningly tight and locktite the adjustment nut, the hinge
always develops at least a wee bit of play after a few miles. Is this tiny
"wiggle" play normal for Dahons?

Patrick Moore, who has considered having a frame builder weld the frame
joint in place permanently ... (but who, instead of doing that, should
invest in VO's new small-wheel frame).



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:58 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> I bought an old, beat up Speed 7 from ebay during a boring moment in last
> year's Superbowl (there were many IIRC). New tires (Tioga Powerblocks)
> really transformed it from a drag to ride into something fun. Then new
> brakes, fenders, seat, front rack, handlebars, etc.
>
> I just picked up a used Bike Friday Silk, but so far I prefer my Dahon. It
> feels quite a bit livelier. Maybe due to the internal gear hub in the BF.
> Anyway, I currently have a bunch more Dahon hop up parts in my Aliexpress
> cart that I'm thinking about (new stempost, handlebar clamp, wheels, etc).
> It's a fun bike.
>
> You can see it here:
> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2019/06/travels-with-dahon-and-sam.html
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 9:06 PM Dave Redmon 
> wrote:
>
>> Eric, what Dahon model do you ride and how did you modify it for your
>> particular uses?
>>
>> Dave in Kansas
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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, I've often bought tandem-specified cable + housing for bikes with
disc brakes and full-length-housing from bar down down tube and along
chainstay to rear caliper, just to be sure. A tandem cable will work with
any long-stayed Riv single, I'll bet.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:07 AM Dorothy C  wrote:

> My cable challenge when I was building my 2019 45cm Clem L was that the
> rear brake cable length I needed exceeded what was in the Rivendell
> Yokozuna brake kit.
>  I had to use almost the entire housing length from the package for the
> rear brake and order a new extra long Shimano mountain bike cable from
> another seller. Front was fine as that one came off the hybrid I was
> rebuilding as the Clem.
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[RBW] WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Pancake]

*Summary*: WTB affordable 30x46t double crankset with 175mm 
crankarms. Sugino would be great but open to other options. A triple that 
has (or can have) the outer chain ring position replaced with a chain guard 
would work just as well. 

*Details*: I am building a bike for my brother-in-law (VO Campeur frame) 
with components left over from my Hillborne and Cheviot builds. I'd like to 
include a 2x9 drive train with the chainrings of 30t and 46t. Cassette is 
XT 11-34t.

I understand there are several options for this and I'm not picky though 
this is a budget, mostly spare parts build so cheaper is better:

   - Sugino double or a Sugino triple by mounting the 46T ring in the 
   center position and using the outer for a chain guard. OX901D, OX601D XD2, 
   XD600, XD500or similar
   - Velo Orange double crankset 
   

   - IRD Defiant Wide Compact 
   

   - FSA Omega Adventure Crankset 
   
   - Random mountain bike crankset that you think I can make work?

I'm open to any suggestions or ideas. Brother in law is coming from a 1984 
Palo Alto (Italian steel race bike) that is WAY too small for him at 6'3" 
and 34" long trousers. 

Also looking to buy:

   1. 700c, 135mm wide rear wheel 9 speed compatible, 32h or 36h, can fit a 
   32-42mm wide tire ... it will pair with my front wheel that's an LX hub 
   with Atlas rim, likely 38mm Marathon tires
   2. Cantilever (CR720 or CR710 or similar) or mini-V-brakes (930AL 
   or 930AL) compatible with Dia Compe SS6 levers (sweptback bars, Jones H 
   660mm or Albatross 56cm)
   3. Downtube shifters
   4. If you have a dropbar that 44cm wide and brakes levers I could use 
   that instead of my sweptback bars if the price is right.

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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Patrick Moore]

The copy for the wheels linked to say good for disc and rim brakes.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM Ian A  wrote:

> As Dorothy already pointed out, the Clem uses V brake rims. Disc rims
> won't have the brake track your Clem is designed for leading to a number of
> safety issues.
>
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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[John Bokman]

Lotsa good options and thoughts here. I must admit I'm leaning toward the 
Herse setup, damn the cost. If I'm going to pay to go custom, I may as well 
spend my wad. 
107 BB or 110? (Thanks for that data point William D. R.)

One concern is that it seems to me that Grant's bikes do really well with 
his spec'd components. Not so sure if they do as well without. Specifically 
I'm speaking of the more "versatile" bikes, like my Sam HIll. Will the 
narrow tread and shorter bottom bracket play well with this bike?


On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 10:55:29 PM UTC-8, Nikos Karanikas wrote:
>
> My favorite is this:
> https://www.velovitality.co.uk/collections/transmission/products/sunxcd-ta-chainset.
>  
> I chose the 40-26 with a 12-29 or 12-32 miche cassette, both with a short 
> cage rear derailleur. Since i use 11 speed trigger shifters with my Bosco 
> setup, my LBS used around 1,5mm narrower chainring spacers to make it work 
> properly.
>
>
> Τη Δευτέρα, 25 Νοεμβρίου 2019 - 2:10:38 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης John Bokman 
> έγραψε:
>>
>> Curious: What's been your favorite all-round drive train on your riv(s)?
>>
>> I was a big fan of the Sugino 46-36-26 tripple, but wanted a narrower 
>> Q-factor, and never used the granny ring. I now use a 44/30 x 11/32 which 
>> is nice in some ways, but I don't get the super smooth shifting I got from 
>> the original (on my 2009 Sam). In fact, i've never gotten better shifting 
>> than the original Sam setup.
>>
>> I like the idea of Riv's double, but it's a wider Q than I want, and with 
>> the big ring at just 38 teeth, I deem the top end to be a bit lacking for 
>> the type of riding I do.
>>
>> I've thought of using their Silver 44/34/24, but again, it's a wider Q 
>> than I want, and I would hardly ever use the granny.
>>
>> I've got indexing on another bike (Shimano 105, 11x28), and it shifts 
>> flawlessly, with a narrow Q from the Velo Orange 46/30 cranks. I'm not 
>> interested in going indexing on the Riv, just a data point.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Eric Daume]

The wheels linked are both disc and rim brake compatible. They should work
fine with the Clem. They're quite heavy, but probably pretty bomber.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 3:39 PM Ian A  wrote:

> As Dorothy already pointed out, the Clem uses V brake rims. Disc rims
> won't have the brake track your Clem is designed for leading to a number of
> safety issues.
>
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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

Thanks, Rob, appreciate the nod!

I was the Waterford marketing guy (catalogs, newsletters, flyers, etc.) 
from 2002 / 2004 -- this was a joyful and important time in my life. 
Richard and I were / are good pals, with bikes and music in common, all 
wonderful stuff.

After I took these photos, I sent him the link. He wrote back to say that 
this mid-80s Paramount was among his favorites and 'finally beginning to 
get the recognition it deserves.' Well, I sure do agree. 

Jock

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Ian A]

As Dorothy already pointed out, the Clem uses V brake rims. Disc rims won't 
have the brake track your Clem is designed for leading to a number of safety 
issues.

IanA

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Those wheels look just fine, one thing you might want to consider is tubeless 
compatibility. I ride every day in NYC (up until today when a slick spot in 
Queens led to a busted clavicle), and tubeless has been a total game changer. 
Add sealant every so often and Bob's your uncle. 
I wish orange seal made bone marrow...
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Drw]

I’ve had fine luck with machine built wheels, and a human can check them over 
once you get them.

Don’t be afraid to make a WTB post here too. 

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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Dorothy C]

Your link is for a disc brake wheel set, maybe they have a rim brake version. 

When I built up my Clem frameset recently I used a link from this forum to an 
Ebay seller of Velocity NoBS rimmed wheels - about $205 for the pair. I have 
WTB All terrain 26x1.95 tires on them. Rims are fine, which the slight caveat 
that they are Schraeder drilled, so I use a set of Wheels Manufacturing rim 
converters to use the inner tubes I already had. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Rambouillet complete or frame set

[Adam Leibow]

bump - many questions but no bites yet. 

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 9:34:45 PM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> yo watup rbw gg
>
> i recently acquired, and have now decided to sell, this beautiful 60cm 
> Rambouillet. The ride is sublime. It has the perfect balance of springy 
> lightness and agility/ nimbleness. 
>
> It's wonderful, but I have 5 rivendells right now and want a gus, so i am 
> leveraging some of the 5 to get that one. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_2427.jpeg]
>
>
>
> frame deets:
> 2004 issue
> 60cm C-T (58 C-C) seat tube
> Blue
> Round Lugs
> some knicks. all cosmetic. no dents. pretty good condition considering 
> almost 16 years old. garage queen. 
>
> build deets:
> silver shimano 5800 group (sans brakes)
> shimano 600 headset
> - cranks: 172.5 or 175 (can't remember)
> - chainrings - 52/36 (i have a 34t small ring if you need)
> - cassette - 11/30 (11sp)
> mid reach shimano ultegra brakes (older, 7700 maybe?)
> pink newbaum's tape
> nitto tallux 100mm stem
> nitto noodle 46cm (heat treated) bars
> nitto s65 crystal fellow seatpost
> wheels= 5800 hubs, h plus son archetype rims (polished). 
> tire options: 700x38 schwalbe g one all arounds, and/or 700x23/25 
> continental gp4000's. (you can have both, they represent both extremes of 
> the tires you can use with this bike; if i were to keep it, i'd get 
> something in the middle). 
> - no saddle or saddle cover included
> - no pedals included
> - no cages included
> - none of pictured bags included
>
> i am looking for $700 FFHS
> OR 
> i am looking for $1500 for entire build (minus saddle & pedals). 
>
> prices are NET TO ME and don't include shipping or seller fees. i am in 
> San Francisco and can meet here or the berkeley/oakland or the peninsula or 
> marin. local sale preferred but i can ship too. 
>
> LMK if you interest. text me (310 963 6959
>
> thanks!
> -a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Patrick Moore]

Welcome to the list. Please post a photo of your Clem.

It used to be that cheap wheels were machine built, and that the cheaper
the wheels, the less hand truing. And $155 is pretty cheap! But perhaps
machine built wheels are better now? I've not bought machine-built wheels
for decades.

The components of those wheels are good, though, from what I hear.

I agree: spend money on good tires.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:11 AM Nerl L.  wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have been lurking here for a bit, but now with a new Clem frame set on
> the way, I am posting for the first time.
>
>
> I’m a commuter in NYC, where the streets can be, um, bumpy.  I ride daily
> in all weather, but distances aren’t high, usually 5 to 30 miles a day.  I
> am also not wealthy, so I’m trying to build this bike in a sensible but
> economical way.  I will put money towards parts that need higher quality,
> but will always look for ways to cut cost.
>
>
> Regarding wheels, I’m a bit stunned by the range in prices.  please tell
> me why I shouldn’t buy this
> 
> cheap set?  If not and if you were me, what would you look at?
>
>
> Finally, if anyone has parts they would part with, I’m in the market!  Swept
> back, low- or no-rise bars, like the Billie or Albatross.  Brakes, racks,
> derailleurs, etc.  Consumable drive train parts I’ll buy new.  I’ve got a
> crankset, brake levers and shifters so far.
>
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Noah
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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Timothy Hurley]

In my experience almost all lower end (cheaper) Shimano parts work really well. 
That Altus derailer is great, the standard MTB levers are great, there are 
cheap thumb shifters that work great, the cheaper v brakes are great. Splurge 
on nice tires and a nice saddle. Go budget with everything else. This is, 
obviously, just my opinion.

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Jonathan D.]

Is there any company that produces a 650B version of something like this?  
Thinking of getting a wheel like this for my wife’s 45 Clementine to help with 
pulling kids in the bike trailer. 

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[RBW] Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Nerl L.]

 

Hello All, 

I have been lurking here for a bit, but now with a new Clem frame set on 
the way, I am posting for the first time.


I’m a commuter in NYC, where the streets can be, um, bumpy.  I ride daily 
in all weather, but distances aren’t high, usually 5 to 30 miles a day.  I 
am also not wealthy, so I’m trying to build this bike in a sensible but 
economical way.  I will put money towards parts that need higher quality, 
but will always look for ways to cut cost.


Regarding wheels, I’m a bit stunned by the range in prices.  please tell me 
why I shouldn’t buy this 

 
cheap set?  If not and if you were me, what would you look at?


Finally, if anyone has parts they would part with, I’m in the market!  Swept 
back, low- or no-rise bars, like the Billie or Albatross.  Brakes, racks, 
derailleurs, etc.  Consumable drive train parts I’ll buy new.  I’ve got a 
crankset, brake levers and shifters so far.


Thank you for your help!


Best,

Noah

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[RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Dorothy C]

My cable challenge when I was building my 2019 45cm Clem L was that the rear 
brake cable length I needed exceeded what was in the Rivendell Yokozuna brake 
kit.
 I had to use almost the entire housing length from the package for the rear 
brake and order a new extra long Shimano mountain bike cable from another 
seller. Front was fine as that one came off the hybrid I was rebuilding as the 
Clem. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wheelset 650B Cliffhanger & Tires & Silver Triple Crank & Albatross (55 steel) & Paint

[RDS]

Albatross bars, Paint, Crankset, & Tires are sold.  Remaining items below.
 

> *Wheelset:*  Velocity Cliffhanger black rim, 36 hole, Shimano XT T780 
> Black Rear Hubs, QR 100mm front 135 rear, Shimano/SRAM 8,9 or 10spd 
> (Dyna-sys 11 spd compatible), lacing four cross.  See more details of the 
> build in the picture link.  Less than 5 miles on them.  Purchased earlier 
> this year for a frame build up, but the bike ended up being too small.  
> Pre-ordered a large GUS so I no longer need these wheels.  *I paid $419, 
> I will sell them for $400 shipped to continental USA only.  Price includes 
> non-expedited shipping.*
>
> *All shipping is from the state of Georgia zip code 30040.*
> *Pictures:  
> **https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8 
> *
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose threadless, Rivet, cantis, derailers, uplift

[Joe Bernard]

Last bump for offers. 

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[George Schick]

JD - neither.  It's Japanese, a '71 or '72 Fuji Finest.  It was a "rescue" 
bike.  The fork was trashed, I got a replacement, aligned the frame, 
re-spaced the rear dropouts from 126mm to 120 so I could use a Phil hub I 
had in the parts box, and repainted it.  It now bears Resurrectio decals 
for a good reason.  The RD is the original Shimano Crane (the predecessor 
to Dura-Ace) that was on the bike, but the FD is a period Campy Record and 
so are the DT shift levers.  Everything else on the bike is newer.


On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 6:08:42 PM UTC-6, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> George:
>
> Lucky YOU, sir! 
>
> I loved 70s maybe best in many ways. Not least of those, the glory days of 
> Campagnolo RECORD. Oh, my. I have my very first Campy bit, year 73 stamped 
> on top, a beautiful Record rear derailer. It's always nearby, in the night 
> stand beside our bed (just kidding). The most elegant, ornate, functional 
> (tho some disagree), rebuild-able, artful chunk of ALU ever created! No 
> argument will convice me otherwise. And I damn near wore the thing out. Not 
> scratch on it, and if you've ever seen these for sale, they are almost 
> always really scuffed up as the result of careless 'tip overs'. I bought 
> the thing before I even had a frame suitable, its equal so to speak. When I 
> built my first really nice bike, an Eisentraut, that derailed was the first 
> thing I mounted. 
>
> What's yours? My guess is either Brit or French.
>
> I love mystifying the carbons -- once I grab a wheel, I don't let go, 
> haha! I think it annoys them, an old guy on an old steel bicycle. An 
> antique in many ways. Most don't know really what it is, and they don't 
> care. 
>
> I've been riding the Paramount quite a bit lately. Totally dialed, you 
> should ride yours more often!
>
> We are a wonderful, different bunch to be sure. What fun.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 1:28:43 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> JD - I still have a road bike that's set up just about like that purple 
>> one, except that the frame and a few of the drive train components are all 
>> from the early 70's.  That's my particular nostalgia period and I still 
>> ride the bike occasionally and love the way it handles.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 11:41:59 AM UTC-6, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a little 80s nostalgia for you, I bet some others also feel it on 
>>> occasion. When I do, I hop on this and recall those times...and even 
>>> further back. It's all good.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49108000202/in/dateposted-public/
>>>  
>>>
>>> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:

 Another reminder that I am slipping into decrepitude. I  remember 
 getting Bridgestone catalogs with him modeling. I had a Pineapple Bob 
 t-shirt!!
 I have been feeling rather nostalgic lately; missing the 80s; the 
 magic's been slowly diminishing since then.
 Good luck to him; I  hope he's retiring early enough that he can still 
 enjoy it.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Rob Kristoff]

Jock:
I worked at a Schwinn shop in 1987 and the mentor who got me started road 
riding had a Paramount that (at least in memory) was similar to yours. 

So, needless to say, I LOVE your bike.
 
Such timeless beauty.

RK

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Joe Bernard]

I've noticed this about hub-gear folders, too..the weight of it really calms 
down the darty feeling compared to derailer models. So does the belt, oddly, 
but I think it's psychological: I owned a Silk (I think you have it) and a 
Dahon Mu Uno with belt drive and the silence has a way of making the ride seem 
smoother and less involving. Weird, right? 

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