Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[Joe Bernard]

Two-Fenders Leah is back in the game!!!

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[RBW] Racer Wald basket

[Joe Bernard]

Tis this here. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/4626-nalkhgoopo5i4o

I wasn't planning to add stuff to my Frank Jones singlespeedy but I ordered 
that new cut-down-Bosco-looking bar today (Losco) and now I'm thinking a Mark's 
Rack with a cut down basket might be just the trick! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Ian A]

Doug wrote "I like the idea of dyno hubs but portable LED lights are so good 
and long lasting now I just don’t see the advantage unless you are touring. And 
isn’t there a slight drag as compared to a standard hub?"

The drag is in practical terms zero, even with lights on. The modern hubs are 
incredibly efficient. I'd argue dynamo systems come into their own for 
commuting and randonneuring, but are also brilliant if you just popped out to 
buy bread, bumped into friends and found yourself coming home in the wee hours. 
The lights are on the bike - no need to plan ahead.

There's some awesome battery lights available too, especially from some German 
manufacturers like B and Trelock. Those awesome lights are not cheap though 
and go a long way to paying for a dynamo set up.

The best system would be good dynamo lighting and a good battery set up. But, 
if a person could only choose one, my bias would be firmly on the dynamo option.

IanA Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[Joe Bernard]

"You should get a job at REI.  Why should they hire you?  Because you do things 
RIGHT!"

They need a mechanic who DOESN'T LEAVE PARTS OFF. Leah's the one for the job.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[DHans]

I like the idea of dyno hubs but portable LED lights are so good and long 
lasting now I just don’t see the advantage unless you are touring. And isn’t 
there a slight drag as compared to a standard hub?
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[Steve Palincsar]

Huzzay!   Terrific job.   Merle sang this for you:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezlaua2o-WU


On 4/9/20 8:20 PM, Roberta wrote:
Oh, it looks BE-U-TI-FULL!  You should get a job at REI.  Why 
should they hire you?  Because you do things RIGHT!


Roberta

On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 7:35:42 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:




Sent from my iPad


On Apr 9, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:


Well, you all nagged me enough that I begrudgingly went to my
garage today.

I DID IT And I’m coming here for all the accolades because I
HAVE REALLY BEEN THROUGH IT TODAY.

It was like working with one hand tied behind my back. I have no
work stand. I don’t know how to get the rear wheel off. The tire
is in my way but I flat it and find I have just enough room to
work that hex key if I turn the bolt a little at a time. It takes
a coon’s age. I’m doing the job squatting on the garage floor and
reaching around blindly as I try to bolt things I can’t see and
get that bracket folded around that fender, and then I don’t have
the right tools so I’m improvising. The parts start falling off
and getting lost and I put the bracket on backwards, and there’s
a metal shaving embedded in my finger... It was just a lot of
howling out there and taking all your names in vain.

But, I did have help. Your posts, videos, and Joe’s Instagram
advice (because I sent videos of what I did and he pointed out
what I did wrong) have gotten me TWO SOLID FENDERS and I thank
you so much! It only took me two tries to get the thing to
stop rubbing on the wheel, and I just couldn’t be more thrilled.
Also, I’m never doing that again.

Thanks so much for the encouragement and advice and video
analyzing. Finishing that project was oddly gratifying; and now
if my fender causes a fatal crash we can only blame me. Ha!

Photos, or it didn’t happen.
(Coming in next post because it’s not allowing me to post them
here)




On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 8:49:43 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:

This also addresses the rear bracket install pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbXxOaqqNI


On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:46:51 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell
wrote:

Maybe this will make it easier to visualize:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxgtKtu-0c


Starting at 4:30 they give the sequence for rear fender
installation using a bracket. The VO bracket you have is
easily bent to shape, one tab at a time when it is
secired to the seat stay bridge. I have used old
handlebar tape scrap stuck on the underside of the he
bracket and trimmed to fit as a gasket between the fender
and the clip. It helps to eliminate rattles. You apply
the tape before you atache the bracket to the seat stay.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Kelly]

We have a Dyno hub on our Betty foy 

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:02:22 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Now I don't want get in to the middle of a fray but why would a dyno hub 
> not work on a Betty Foy?
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:51:02 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh Ryan, so salty. I didn’t know you had 650B - I did know you had 700 c. 
>> I am thinking of getting dyno though...would need to have dyno 
>> compatibility...do you have those in your basement somewhere too? 
>>
>> I’m not good at pulling parts off one bike and installing on another! It 
>> was better to just sell the whole Betz. Don’t you think I deserve some new 
>> wheels? Betz is 8 year old now. And not compatible with dyno.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:13 PM, 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Leah,
>> I have a wonderful 650B velocity wheel set you may try.  Also have g-ones 
>> tires and Hetras you could try.  A different size rim will require an 
>> adjustment to brake pads.
>>
>> It does frustrate me slightly that you ignore my advice about wheel and 
>> tire improvement on ride and weight until 4-5 others state the same claim. 
>>  Oh well what do I know.
>>
>> For the record the least expensive option would have been to simply swap 
>> parts wheels etc from the Betz build over to the Clem to see which 
>> modifications were worth the build.
>>
>> However since you boxed up the bike before trying the other wheels and 
>> had no mechanic to help you with the swap and now the Benz has a new owner; 
>> therefore shopping for and buying new parts (wheels and tires 1st) buying 
>> used parts or borrowing some from me is really your only options.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Ryan Hankinson
>> West Michigan
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:02:00 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble 
>>> because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each 
>>> other’s ideas and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire. 
>>>
>>> So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with 
>>> light parts. But that bike is a long way off, months, in fact. Meanwhile, 
>>> Roberta is giving her beloved Appaloosa a makeover and it is getting lots 
>>> of new parts and she’s having all the fun. And since we’re #Rivsisters and 
>>> I’m like that little sister who wants what her sister has, I want to 
>>> explore what it would take to lighten up my Clem L, which is my only bike 
>>> at present, and which is quite heavy. You’ll have heard me mention this in 
>>> Joe’s What Is A Cheviot thread. If my Clem could lose a little weight it 
>>> would be the most perfect bike anyone could dream up. A Susie version of 
>>> Clems would be just so ideal - someone should tell Riv. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, if I got aluminum Bosco bars, and new wheels (don’t ask me what 
>>> kind, how would I know?) would this make my bike feel considerably lighter? 
>>> I don’t think I can give up my front derailleur because I use it for Killer 
>>> Hill. And what if I wanted to add dyno while I was at it? Would that negate 
>>> my weight savings? Also, I’m keeping my racks; I can’t part with those. 
>>> Maybe I’m not the best candidate for this... 
>>>
>>> Has anyone built a Clem up with lighter parts? Does it make a big 
>>> difference? As in, is it worth the money? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah,

Welcome to the world of bike mechanics 藺‍.  I never want to hear you say you 
can’t again; but fully expect to hear you say it is not worth my time and I 
would rather pay someone to do so.

So proud of you.  You have earned 1 week of ZERO passive aggressive 
communication from me. After my post script below.

Sincerely,

Ryan Hankinson

P.S. enjoy the wheels and tires when they arrive!  I think I just bought 
Heather a Betty also 臘‍♂️.

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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[Roberta]

Oh, it looks BE-U-TI-FULL!  You should get a job at REI.  Why should 
they hire you?  Because you do things RIGHT!

Roberta

On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 7:35:42 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 9, 2020, at 4:34 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  > wrote:
>
> 
> Well, you all nagged me enough that I begrudgingly went to my garage today.
>
> I DID IT And I’m coming here for all the accolades because I HAVE 
> REALLY BEEN THROUGH IT TODAY. 
>
> It was like working with one hand tied behind my back. I have no work 
> stand. I don’t know how to get the rear wheel off. The tire is in my way 
> but I flat it and find I have just enough room to work that hex key if I 
> turn the bolt a little at a time. It takes a coon’s age. I’m doing the job 
> squatting on the garage floor and reaching around blindly as I try to bolt 
> things I can’t see and get that bracket folded around that fender, and then 
> I don’t have the right tools so I’m improvising. The parts start falling 
> off and getting lost and I put the bracket on backwards, and there’s a 
> metal shaving embedded in my finger... It was just a lot of howling out 
> there and taking all your names in vain. 
>
> But, I did have help. Your posts, videos, and Joe’s Instagram advice 
> (because I sent videos of what I did and he pointed out what I did wrong) 
> have gotten me TWO SOLID FENDERS and I thank you so much! It only took 
> me two tries to get the thing to stop rubbing on the wheel, and I just 
> couldn’t be more thrilled. Also, I’m never doing that again.
>
> Thanks so much for the encouragement and advice and video analyzing. 
> Finishing that project was oddly gratifying; and now if my fender causes a 
> fatal crash we can only blame me. Ha!
>
> Photos, or it didn’t happen.
> (Coming in next post because it’s not allowing me to post them here)
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 8:49:43 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> This also addresses the rear bracket install pretty well.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbXxOaqqNI
>>
>> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:46:51 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe this will make it easier to visualize:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxgtKtu-0c
>>>
>>> Starting at 4:30 they give the sequence for rear fender installation 
>>> using a bracket. The VO bracket you have is easily bent to shape, one tab 
>>> at a time when it is secired to the seat stay bridge. I have used old 
>>> handlebar tape scrap stuck on the underside of the he bracket and trimmed 
>>> to fit as a gasket between the fender and the clip. It helps to eliminate 
>>> rattles. You apply the tape before you atache the bracket to the seat stay.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[ted]

Congratulations, way to go.
Now, quick before you forget how frustrating that was, order yourself a nice 
collapsible free standing work stand. 
It should last you a lifetime, and will prove well worth the $$. Honest, a 
decade from now you will be so glad you did.

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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[Joe Bernard]

"It was just a lot of howling out there and taking all your names in vain."

I believe this 藍

Nice work, bike wrenching person! You nailed it!!!  

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[RBW] FS 55cm Sam Hillborne Canti Frameset + rack + brakes

[Eric G@rs]

Bump

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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[ascpgh]

Strongest approval and compliments!

I knew you had it in you, COVID or not!!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[tuolumnebikes]

Next time I'm up there I'll get out a compass and do a quick feasibility 
study. It's right off the road. There's such a cool variety of surfaces 
in there, but not likely to displace Yosemite firefall as a 
photographers destination.


On 4/9/2020 8:33 AM, JAS wrote:
Carl, thanks for the John Prine reference.  He was such a talented 
songwriter with so many great songs; what a loss to the music world.


I love the idea of tree henge...will you keep checking that and let us 
know if/when it happens?


Ya' know that old trees just grow stronger
And old rivers grow wilder ev'ry day
Old people just grow lonesome
Waiting for someone to say, "Hello in there, hello"

--Joyce
Whidbey Island, WA
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Re: [RBW] Wald Bag

[tuolumnebikes]

Looked up Wald--nothing, Jandd has a Jandd-jp account with 428 
followers. Swift has 57.2K followers, and there's no need to follow them 
since their message is multiplied by influencers and happy customers. 
Clearly it's up to the companies to do their marketing consistent with 
their price points, and kudos to Swift for their products and marketing.


My point is that while developing markets for high end stuff is good for 
the diversity of the marketplace, it has the unfortunate downside of 
training people to think that perfectly good or maybe even excellent 
ordinary stuff is not quite good enough which raises the bar for people 
of modest means or those traditionally less represented among bike 
riders to join the party. I don't mean to discount the LBSs, coops, and 
coalitions doing great work to get and keep people riding and smiling at 
modest cost. Any support for Taiwanese Fender Day?


On 4/8/2020 11:45 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

Are they at the groovy Instagram party? I follow bikey stuff I come across 
there..albeit a small sample, I don't have an appetite for making that site a 
big habit for me. I'd follow Wald for sure.



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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Well, you all nagged me enough that I begrudgingly went to my garage today.

I DID IT And I’m coming here for all the accolades because I HAVE 
REALLY BEEN THROUGH IT TODAY. 

It was like working with one hand tied behind my back. I have no work 
stand. I don’t know how to get the rear wheel off. The tire is in my way 
but I flat it and find I have just enough room to work that hex key if I 
turn the bolt a little at a time. It takes a coon’s age. I’m doing the job 
squatting on the garage floor and reaching around blindly as I try to bolt 
things I can’t see and get that bracket folded around that fender, and then 
I don’t have the right tools so I’m improvising. The parts start falling 
off and getting lost and I put the bracket on backwards, and there’s a 
metal shaving embedded in my finger... It was just a lot of howling out 
there and taking all your names in vain. 

But, I did have help. Your posts, videos, and Joe’s Instagram advice 
(because I sent videos of what I did and he pointed out what I did wrong) 
have gotten me TWO SOLID FENDERS and I thank you so much! It only took 
me two tries to get the thing to stop rubbing on the wheel, and I just 
couldn’t be more thrilled. Also, I’m never doing that again.

Thanks so much for the encouragement and advice and video analyzing. 
Finishing that project was oddly gratifying; and now if my fender causes a 
fatal crash we can only blame me. Ha!

Photos, or it didn’t happen.
(Coming in next post because it’s not allowing me to post them here)




On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 8:49:43 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> This also addresses the rear bracket install pretty well.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NbXxOaqqNI
>
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 11:46:51 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this will make it easier to visualize:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxgtKtu-0c
>>
>> Starting at 4:30 they give the sequence for rear fender installation 
>> using a bracket. The VO bracket you have is easily bent to shape, one tab 
>> at a time when it is secired to the seat stay bridge. I have used old 
>> handlebar tape scrap stuck on the underside of the he bracket and trimmed 
>> to fit as a gasket between the fender and the clip. It helps to eliminate 
>> rattles. You apply the tape before you atache the bracket to the seat stay.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Racer Wald basket

[Carla Waugh]

I really like the looks of this basket and how slim it is. I tried to make a 
Wald basket shorter one year but it didn't look to swift. Its a keeper!

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[RBW] FS: Pair of skinwall Soma Supple Vitesse SL 700c KV 38mm

[Andrew Turner]

These have less than 400 miles on them but they are pretty dirty on the 
sides. I originally had them on much wider Ritchey Zeta rims (MAN that was 
a fast wheelset!) and they measured pretty close to 38. Today, I tried them 
on A23 rims and they barely made the 35mm mark so I'm looking to let them 
go. 

$60 for the pair plus shipping CONUS

Cheers! 
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[RBW] Re: SKS P50 or P65 for Schwalbe Big Ben 700x50 tires

[Andrew Turner]

Thanks for the input! Will suggested 50's (lolz) so I'm just gonna roll the 
dice with those and hope for the best. I can't think of a single time 
fender + tire combinations wasn't just a game of Russian roulette to my 
wallet. The universe doesn't want me to break the pattern I suppose. 

The good news is I have a pair of 38 marathons as back up and I'll have a 
better idea of what the max tire size will be for when I want something a 
bit more light + supple. 

On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 4:00:59 PM UTC-5, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> I think the 50s are too small for 43-44mm tires.  Even if they fit within 
> the fender openings, the part where the stays meet the fenders will without 
> a doubt rub against the side of the tire when the front wheel is whipped to 
> and fro.  I used to have P45s and you couldn't fit 38s on them for that 
> reason. I now run 50s on the same size tire.  You really need 10mm 
> difference IMO for SKS Fenders.
>

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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

No ride today in West Michigan
Temp 45 degrees gusty winds of 18-35 MPH right out of the North
Real feel temp 31degrees.
Alternating beautiful sun then short bursts of snow ❄️ for 20- 30 minutes.

On the positive side I will have another revamped Riv ready for tomorrow’s ride 


Ryan
West Michigan

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[RBW] Clempocalypse Build

[J Imler]

I’m putting on the finishing touches. I’m getting a ghost shift between the 
second and third cog. I swapped the Clem complete 9 speed cassette (Sunrace?) 
for an eight speed Sunrace with a larger low gear. I think it’s a 40t so I put 
on a WolfTooth hanger to help. It’s all gravy except the ghost shift. Too much 
chain?

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[RBW] Furlough Sale: 60 cm Betty Foy frameset

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Conway,
Sending you an email check your spam!  


Ryan

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[RBW] Furlough Sale: 60 cm Betty Foy frameset

[Conway Bennett]

This also includes a rear sks fender with an excellent fender line. 

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[RBW] Re: SKS P50 or P65 for Schwalbe Big Ben 700x50 tires

[Tom Wyland]

I think the 50s are too small for 43-44mm tires.  Even if they fit within 
the fender openings, the part where the stays meet the fenders will without 
a doubt rub against the side of the tire when the front wheel is whipped to 
and fro.  I used to have P45s and you couldn't fit 38s on them for that 
reason. I now run 50s on the same size tire.  You really need 10mm 
difference IMO for SKS Fenders.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Of Bikes and Bread

[David Bivins]

No problem! It was in the recipe I started with, and it never fails!

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Paul Richardson 
wrote:

> @david--
>
> adding beer is truly an inspired idea.  i've made similar no knead /
> overnight rise loaves many times, but never strayed far from the
> flour+water+yeast formula.  i used 3oz of great lakes porter that added a
> real je ne sais quoi.  thanks for the tip!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:43:28 PM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>>
>> I hate to be a contrarian , but some of these lovely
>> loaves just seem so healthy. I won't argue against that virtue, but there
>> should be room for a little decadence in life. On that note, here's my
>> effort: Cinnamon Raisin Bread. Derived from a Cook's Illustrated recipe,
>> and including a couple serendipitously wonderful mistakes on my part, these
>> loaves turned out to be gooey, raisiny, aromatic and tasty. The aroma while
>> baking made for the perfect air freshener and the whole process --
>> including the eating -- was the sort of thing that makes being cooped up at
>> home a little more bearable.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Of Bikes and Bread

[Paul Richardson]

@david--

adding beer is truly an inspired idea.  i've made similar no knead / 
overnight rise loaves many times, but never strayed far from the 
flour+water+yeast formula.  i used 3oz of great lakes porter that added a 
real je ne sais quoi.  thanks for the tip!

paul
takoma park, md.

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:43:28 PM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> I hate to be a contrarian , but some of these lovely 
> loaves just seem so healthy. I won't argue against that virtue, but there 
> should be room for a little decadence in life. On that note, here's my 
> effort: Cinnamon Raisin Bread. Derived from a Cook's Illustrated recipe, 
> and including a couple serendipitously wonderful mistakes on my part, these 
> loaves turned out to be gooey, raisiny, aromatic and tasty. The aroma while 
> baking made for the perfect air freshener and the whole process -- 
> including the eating -- was the sort of thing that makes being cooped up at 
> home a little more bearable.
>

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[RBW] Furlough Sale: 60 cm Betty Foy frameset

[Conway Bennett]

My situation has changed so on the block is a 60 cm Betty Foy frame, fork, 
headset, bottom bracket, and tektro 559 sidepull brakes.  The bike is in great 
used condition but is missing the head badge.

$700 net to me and buyer pays packing and shipping. 

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[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Joe Bernard]

Getting back to Adam's question - which kinda got lost in tubeless arguments 
and peculiar shenanigans - having owned both I would agree that a Cheviot is 
not *significantly* lighter than a Clem L. I think there's other things going 
on there with full lugs and a different style - mixte v. step-thru - that make 
it appealing as an aspirational frame to hang lighter/fancier parts on. 

As for tires being a big player in all this, OH yeah. I've run various Schwalbe 
Marathons and Big Apples and such with all their flat-protection goodies, and 
they're straight-up boat anchors compared to the Compass/RH Barlow Pass on my 
Frank Jones. ALL Rivs - Clem, Chev, et al - benefit from nice light tires. 

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[RBW] Furlough Sale: 1994 59 cm XO-3

[Conway Bennett]

It happened so I am liquidating.  I am offering up my 1994 59 cm XO-3.  This 
was the clone of the 1993 XO-1 but with a budget component group and tange 
tubing. 

Photos to follow but this is a modern high end rivish build you will be 
getting,e.g. Nitto, sugino, XT, velocity.  

$900 complete net to me and buyer pays packing and shipping. 

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[RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray

[Brad]

Thanks for the update. It seems like it's hard to find info in English 
about Post O'alls. 

I hear you with the sleeves (and fit in general). That vintage fit can look 
strange, especially if you're tall and skinny.

Brad
Queens

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:42:17 AM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> @brad
>
> Mostly correct. Takeshi of Post O'alls moved to Japan and along with it 
> went his production. He has very high standards and labored to find the 
> right place to do it and so it should be on par with the US product.
>
> With that being said, there are certain qualities he prefers that might 
> not mesh well with the masses (not that RBW Owner's are the masses). Mostly 
> those are cotton threads (which shrink as you would expect cotton to, thus 
> making the garments warp in weird ways all throughout and are more 
> expensive) and typically shorter sleeves akin to older work shirts where 
> ppl feared getting sleeves caught in machinery. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 4:09:03 PM UTC-4, Brad wrote:
>>
>> There are a handful of small companies out there making reproduction 
>> vintage workwear. 
>>
>> Check out:  Left Field, Post Overalls, Engineered Garments, etc. (There's 
>> also Iron Heart, which is made in Japan.)l
>>
>> They manufacture domestically and use high-quality materials. And they're 
>> expensive enough that they make you realize what a good deal Riv's MUSA 
>> gear is. I'm far from an expert on this, but it's my understanding that a 
>> lot of these companies make clothes for the Japanese market. There's a 
>> strong demand there for vintage US workwear. 
>>
>> One of the companies (I think it's Post Overalls) is owned by a Japanese 
>> man who studied fashion production management in the States. His clothes 
>> are made with old machines from defunct factories in the US because 
>> collectors can tell the difference in the stitches made with new machines 
>> and old machines. You can really go down the rabbit hole with this stuff!
>>
>> Brad
>> Queens
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:54:11 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
>>> I just pulled my trusty MUSA blue chambray shirt out of the wash and it 
>>> is on its last legs, so to speak - significant fraying at the cuffs and 
>>> collar, worn elbows, missing buttons. I happened to get Grant on the phone 
>>> yesterday during a call to HQ on an unrelated matter, and when I pivoted to 
>>> this topic he indicated that new ones aren't in the pipeline. Any 
>>> suggestions on where to source a replacement that checks many/most of the 
>>> boxes of the original? There are commodity-grade options available from the 
>>> usual suspects (Carhartt, Duluth Trading, etc.) but I really love the 
>>> synergy of that supple Japanese chambray while supporting living wage 
>>> domestic craftspeople.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, does anyone have the genuine article for sale in size XL?
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[Joe Bernard]

See Ken, this is where I just can't get into tubeless. I've owned a couple 
bikes that cake to me that way, which was dandy because they were already 
seated and pumped up; but then I needed sealant, a tool to unscrew the valve to 
add sealant, and tire plugs. Ok so what do I take as tire repair stuff? Whelp, 
I guess I could take all this in case I need it, plus a tube and tire levers if 
the trick to getting home after a puncture is to pop a tube in there. Then when 
it's time to seat a tire I'm going to need a machine because my very good 
Topeak floor pump isn't good enough, or I'm not good enough at pumping. 

So I get the advantages in ride, lightness and puncture resistance of tubeless, 
but for a Luddite like me who does all his own work all I see is more stuff and 
more work. I'm not into it. 

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[RBW] first impressions of Atlantis

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I *love* the rainbow top tube of the Atlantis. I also really think the Atlantis 
creamy green is hard to beat; and what a great name fora bike. It was great fun 
reading how nicely it rides and how satisfied you feel with your new bike. 
Congrats, and many happy miles!  

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[RBW] Re: first impressions of Atlantis

[JohnS]

So I'm not the only one who wrestles with dream world biking and reality?

Thanks for sharing,
JohnS

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:39:39 AM UTC-4, Clark Fitzgerald wrote:
>
> I've had my new Atlantis for one week now, and have taken it on one 4 hour 
> ride and one quick overnight trip. It's my first Rivendell, and I'm very 
> happy with it. It's the quintessential "All-Rounder", and I plan to use it 
> for anything and everything, for a very long time. Photos 
> 
> .
>
> My original order was for a Susie Longbolts, the "Hillibike". In fantasy 
> land I ride my bike on high alpine singletrack all day long. The Hillibike 
> would be great for that. In reality, I have little time for those kinds of 
> grand adventures. My day to day adventures are more modest in scale. I tow 
> my kids, ride my bike on bike paths, smooth urban singletrack, gravel 
> roads, with at least 50% pavement. The terrain is similar to Walnut Creek. 
> I know that if I got something with big knobby tires, then I would not be 
> so happy on the pavement.
>
> Will at Rivendell changed my order over to the Atlantis. He's a nice guy. 
> The frame is a 59cm, with the rainbow double top tube. It's unique and 
> beautiful. I had some nitpicks about details on the Susie Longbolts, but 
> the Atlantis is Rivendell design and details at its finest.
>
> I'm 6'1", and my PBH is 89 cm, which puts me right on the edge of fitting 
> this bike. It's a big bike. I noticed it more when I had it fully loaded, 
> because I have to do a roundhouse kick like Chuck Norris to get my leg over 
> my sleeping pad that's on top of the saddle bag.
>
> This is my first time using the saddle bag, and it has been great. I 
> thought the thigh rubbing would bother me, but it doesn't. I do need a 
> kickstand to tour with it though. It's no fun to dig through everything in 
> the saddlebag while the bike is laid on it's side in the dark.
>
> The ride is smooth and stable. I passed a group of hikers while climbing 
> some steep singletrack, and got some comments like, "I can't believe you're 
> riding this hill on that bike." Don't let the non racy looks deceive you, 
> this bike climbs better than any bike I've been on, both loaded and 
> unloaded. It reminds me of a tractor on the steep hills. Just put it in low 
> gear, sit down, and spin. 
>
> After the 4 hour ride my body felt fine, which surprised me, given that I 
> haven't been on a long ride in months. On any of my other bikes I've owned 
> I would be hurting after a ride that long. I credit the relaxed position. 
> It invites one to unwind, take in the sights, and see where those side 
> trails lead to.
>

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[RBW] Re: Best of Boneshaker 50%

[Matthew P]

Thank you!  I hadn't heard of Boneshaker before.  Judging from their site, 
what a find.  
I bought the book + best-of bundle as quick as my WiFi and ADD allowed.
-Matthew
San Diego

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:10:50 PM UTC-7, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, 
Oregon wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting this. I ordered both the novel & the best of.
>
> Kent Peterson
> Eugene, OR USA
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[RBW] SKS P50 or P65 for Schwalbe Big Ben 700x50 tires

[Andrew Turner]

Hello group,  
As the title suggests, I'm debating between these two fender sizes. The Big 
Ben's are mounted on A23 rims so their true width is closer to 43-44mm. 
Perks of the 50s would be aesthetics and probably little to no 
modifications to get them to fit on the BMC monster cross frame. P65's 
would cover more but would need some wicked modifications which I'm alright 
with doing but it might negate performance. 


Thanks! 
Andrew

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B67s Aged?

[Conway Bennett]

I am about to close on a house if I don't get furloughed first which I will 
know about by tomorrow EOD.  

Either way, I will be taking a pay cut.  So, please buy this Brooks B67s.  I 
think it is the aged version with black rails and hammered copper rivets.  

How is $85 net to me shipped CONUS?  And as always, preference and discounts 
for a local sale in Chicago.  

Thanks in advance.  

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XETKR5CbfqYK6Sz1A

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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[JAS]

Carl, thanks for the John Prine reference.  He was such a talented 
songwriter with so many great songs; what a loss to the music world.  

I love the idea of tree henge...will you keep checking that and let us know 
if/when it happens?

Ya' know that old trees just grow stronger
And old rivers grow wilder ev'ry day
Old people just grow lonesome
Waiting for someone to say, "Hello in there, hello"

--Joyce
Whidbey Island, WA

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[RBW] Re: FS: 70 Issues of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly & Bicycle Quarterly

[Touriste-Routier]

These have been sold; thanks to all who inquired.

Brian Ignatin
Pineville, PA  USA

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:53:52 AM UTC-4, Touriste-Routier wrote:
>
> Inspired by yesterdays For Sale Post by Ant Ritchey, I too have a boatload 
> of magazines and books to sell, all in previously read condition.  
>
>  
>
> All Proceeds will benefit a u19/u23 Cycling Program
>
>  
>
> “Vintage Bicycle Quarterly”
>
> Volume 1: Issues 1 - 4
>
> Volume 2: Issues 1 - 4
>
> Volume 3: Issues 1 - 4
>
> Volume 4: Issues 1 - 4
>
>  
>
> “Bicycle Quarterly”
>
> Volume 5: Issues 1 – 4
>
> Volume 6: Issues 1 – 3
>
> 2008: Issues: Summer, Autumn & Winter
>
> 2009: Issues: Spring, Summer, Autumn & Winter
>
> 2010: Issues Spring, Summer, Autumn & Winter
>
> Volume 9: Issues 3 – 4
>
> Volume 10: Issues 1 (Autumn 2011), 2 (Winter 2011), 3 (Spring 2012) 4 
> (Summer 2012)
>
> Volume 11: Issues 1 (Autumn 2012), 2 (Winter 2012), 3 (Spring 2013) 4 
> (Summer 2013)
>
> Volume 12: Issues 1 (Autumn 2013), 2 (Winter 2013), 3 (Spring 2014) 4 
> (Summer 2014)
>
>  
>
> “Bicycle Quarterly” (Flat Binding)
>
> Volume 13: Issue 1(Autumn 2014
>
> Issue 50 (Winter 2014)
>
> Issues 51 – 70
>
>  
>
> Total of 70 issues.  Most Issues are in Good – Excellent condition (most 
> were read only once), a few have some stains or other minor damage.  All 
> are legible.  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> $100 OBO + Actual shipping.  My goal is to use Media Mail (breaking this 
> up into multiple packages), or I can use FedEx Ground via ShipBikes
>
>  
>
> Please contact me directly, since I’m on the digest of these forums
>
>  
>
> Brian Ignatin
>
> Pineville, PA  USA
>
> touriste.rout...@gmail.com
>
> 267-744-4538
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Readers & Catalogs

[Touriste-Routier]

These have been sold; thanks to all who inquired.

Brian Ignatin
Pineville, PA  USA

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 4:04:27 PM UTC-4, Touriste-Routier wrote:
>
> Rivendell Bicycle Works used to publish and mail a lot on paper; Full 
> Catalogs, Readers, Flyers, Bike/Frame Catalogs.  To pass along fun 
> reading material, to reclaim space, and to raise funds for a u19/u23 
> Cycling Program, I’m offering the following for sale:
>
>  
>
> *My Collection of Riv Readers*
>
> Volume 0: Issue 0
>
> Volume 1: Issues 1 – 4
>
> Issues 5 – 24
>
> Issues 26 – 33
>
> Issues 35 – 40
>
>  
>
> 39 issues in total.  Most Issues are in excellent condition and were 
> stored in plastic sheet protectors, which will be included.  
>
>  
>
> $40 OBO Shipped in the US via USPS Media Mail  
>
>  
>
> Missing from this series are Issues 25 & 34; if they turn up, I’ll include 
> them too.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rivendell Catalogs*
>
> Summer 1996
>
> Numbers 3 – 9
>
> Spring ‘02
>
> Spring-Summer ‘03
>
> Summer/Fall ‘03
>
> Spring-Summer ‘04
>
> Winter ’04 -‘05
>
> Fall-Winter 05
>
> 2006
>
> 2006 (a different 2006 issue)
>
> Catalog 19
>
>  
>
> 17 Catalogs in total
>
>  
>
> $36 OBO Shipped in the US via USPS Media Mail  
>
>  
>
> If any other Riv Catalogs in my stash turn up, I’ll include these as well.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> If you buy both lots (the readers & the catalogs), I’ll also include a 
> bunch of other flyers, sales sheets, frame catalogs, and other 
> miscellaneous Riv mailings in my collection, that are just too onerous for 
> me to figure out how to organize & describe.  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Brian Ignatin
>
> Pineville, PA  USA
>
> touriste.rout...@gmail.com
>
> 267-744-4538
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Aeoleus Butterfly & On the Wheel Magazine Collection

[Touriste-Routier]

These have been sold; thanks to all who inquired.

Brian Ignatin
Pineville, PA  USA

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:53:24 AM UTC-4, Touriste-Routier wrote:
>
> For Sale: The Complete Collection of Gabe Conrad’s “Aeoleus Butterfly” & 
> “On the Wheel” magazines.  All are in previously read condition.  
>
>  
>
> All Proceeds will benefit a u19/u23 Cycling Program
>
>  
>
> “Aeoleus Butterfly”
>
> Number 1 – 20
>
>  
>
> “On the Wheel”
>
> Number 1 – 12
>
>  
>
> Cover Photos can be seen here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iBB6XBY9H7ZVbEBP8
>
>  
>
> Total of 32 issues.  Most issues were read only once and have been stored 
> in plastic sleeves, which will be included.
>
>  
>
> $50 OBO shipped in the US via USPS Media Mail.
>
>  
>
> Please contact me directly.
>
>  
>
> Brian Ignatin
>
> Pineville, PA  USA
>
> touriste.rout...@gmail.com
>
> 267-744-4538
>

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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

[MaineBiker]

Thanks! It's a very picturesque area for sure!

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 2:51:44 PM UTC-4, truegolden wrote:
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> MaineBiker, 
>
> Great looking Rivendell and what an amazing background for your pic!
>

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Re: [RBW] Wald Bag

[Joe Bernard]

Are they at the groovy Instagram party? I follow bikey stuff I come across 
there..albeit a small sample, I don't have an appetite for making that site a 
big habit for me. I'd follow Wald for sure. 

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Re: [RBW] Wald Bag

[tuolumne bikes]

I agree with Eric and with most of the comments in response about the value 
of the local bags. It's great that the market meets so many needs. What I 
have issue with is the contradiction between wanting to widen the scope of 
biking past the stereotypes (roadie, etc) but then pushing marketing/style 
that effectively excludes those that either can't afford top shelf or that 
enjoy riding but just aren't *obsessed* with bikes and bike stuff. When do 
we invite the basic family bike shop Wald/Jandd/cheaper yet folks to the 
groovy Instagram party?  

I don't expect manufacturers to not market their products, but being 
inclusive as a community might mean we don't need all our stuff to be 
exclusive.

Carl, Columbia, CA

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:04:48 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> I’m referring to any $200 bag made in San Francisco of organic hemp and 
> compostable plastic buckles, vs. the $50 Wald bag (and that cost includes 
> the basket). 
>
> Sorry, I just get a little burned out by bag preciousness :)
>
> Eric
>
> On Tuesday, April 7, 2020, 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Which are you referring to?  Aside from Riv I found Troutman and 
>> Porcelain Rocket when I searched. Thanks. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Eric Daume > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to Tim’s comments. I have the bigger one that I use all the time, and 
>> I really value it. Made in the USA too! I think these bags are both under 
>> rated and overlooked as people spend a lot more money on fancier offerings.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, April 6, 2020, Tim O. (Portland, OR) > > wrote:
>>
>>> They're great. I have both sizes. The medium is perfect for commuting. 
>>> The large is great if you need to snag something extra at the store. They 
>>> hold up to rain pretty well, especially if they aren't packed full and you 
>>> can fold the zipper over. Not fully waterproof in sustained hard rain. Very 
>>> convenient for everyday, around town use. Most the time I just plop in the 
>>> bag without bungies. I haven't tried other basket bags, I don't have much 
>>> to compare to, but I haven't felt much need for anything else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Tim 
>>> PDX
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