[RBW] Clems for Kids

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

In 2018, my older son, E, was gifted a 45 cm grilver Clem H by someone on 
this list, who wishes to remain anonymous. You can read about it in the 
link below.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qrKUcYAQetM

Anyway, E was very proud of his Rivendell (an outrageously nice bicycle for 
a 7th grader) and very sad that one day he would outgrow it. Conveniently, 
he grew slowly though his peers shot up, but that kid hit a 5 inch growth 
spurt this summer and he’s now looking me in the eye and threatening to 
keep growing. Today, I pulled my husband’s cast-off 2015 52 Clem H from the 
storage room and had E try it out. It fits. Not that he is happy about this 
- he was attached to his bike. He’s pointed out that the blue Clem doesn’t 
have “cream in the windows” (lugwork...should I let him take after it with 
nail polish?) and it isn’t grilver and it “doesn’t look as cool.” But once 
we got his saddle and his bags strung up, he’s warming. The Bosco Bullmoose 
have got to go; he’s emphatic that the triangulation messes up the way he 
had his bags. This will mean new grips, stem and bars. 

Well, what does this mean for Baby Bear? Baby Bear finally gets the grilver 
Clem! He’s been riding a Specialized Hotrock (handed down from E) and he 
was fond of pointing out, “It’s a fellowship of Rivendells...and a hobbit.” 
We wheeled out the 45 Clem and Baby Bear tried it out. He can’t quite stand 
over it (hobbits ), but he’s close. He rode the Clem up and down the 
street and couldn’t believe how different it felt. When he parked the bike 
he pointed to the friction thumb shifters and asked, “What are these?” 

Baby Bear is my cautious kid and he’s elected to keep riding his Hotrock 
for now because the dismount on the Clem unnerves him. We’re stripping the 
“E” from the little Clem so it will be a blank canvas for the hobbit when 
he decides to finally ride it. We’ll keep the rack and basket (Baby Bear 
wants them) and the saddle will be the original Clem saddle because it’s 
lightweight compared to the sprung Brooks I have laying in the bin. 

The new platform is preventing my photos from going through, so I’ll try in 
a comment to this post.

Goodnight,
Leah






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[RBW] Re: 3 Rivendells

[Joe Bernard]

I'm afraid I can't help with this one, I've never ridden a Sam or MIT 
Homer. Maybe Roberta can chime in here, she has an Appaloosa and Homer. 

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:52:45 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

>
> If I came home with a Mixtec my wife would steal it from me Kainalu, 
>  I never heard of this model before, thanks for bringing it to my 
> attention. 
>
> BTW, I lived in Brooklyn in 1978 and grew up in Far Rockaway.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 9:10:04 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>>
>> The medium step through Rosco Bubbe would be just the thing! Or the Sam 
>> or Homer. I've only ridden an older and much larger Sam and it was the bees 
>> knees. But if the option comes around, the Rosco would be wonderful for 
>> you, and they're Riv blue! 
>> Good thing for all good choices...
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 5:53:51 PM UTC-4, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>> I know Joe B has opinions on this as he has owned at least 2 of them.  
>>>
>>> My Bleriot is a tad big, not terrible but a tad too high for me.  It 
>>> also has very lively handling, especially with Albatross bars.  To counter 
>>> this a bit I hold them near the curves which puts more weight on the front 
>>> end and is very comfortable for me.  My Atlantis is being built up right 
>>> know and will be ready tomorrow.  I have considered replacing the Bleriot 
>>> with a Sam or Homer.  Group member Rich has given me some good information, 
>>> the Sam will be a tad smaller (1cm) in 51cm and will be a definite fit, the 
>>> Homer will probably be fine.  I want the bike should I do this that will be 
>>> the most comfort and stable.  The chain stay difference is a couple of CM I 
>>> think.  Any thoughts? 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Joel
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Delight us with your 2020 Clems!

[Mark Roland]

Another oops. I colored outside the lines! It only now dawns on me that you 
were soliciting Clems from the latest batch, which of course makes sense. 
And there I go on about my old outdated 2019. But I didn't build it until 
well into 2020. And nobody had responded, so I suppose I can be credited 
with getting the ball rolling. I will pay more attention next time. Lots of 
nice new Clems out there!

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 3:52:18 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>  The Clementine (that’s what I call my 2019 Clem L) 
>
> On Aug 30, 2020, at 7:53 AM, kim young > 
> wrote:
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 850 - 22"

[ant ritchey]

Trek has sold. Thanks everyone!

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 4:19:55 PM UTC-7, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. 
>
> Selling a bike I built up for a friend. It's a fantastic rigjust not 
> getting "the attention it deserves" from said friend. Pics and details here:
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-1984-trek-850-drop-bar-dirt/7180672271.html
>
> Buyer pays actual shipping via BIkeflights. Paypal ("gift" or +3%) or 
> Venmo.
> HIt me up off-list or text (724) 757-9358 with any questions you may have.
>
> -Ant Ritchey in PDX, OR
>

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[RBW] Re: 3 Rivendells

[Joel]

If I came home with a Mixtec my wife would steal it from me Kainalu,  I 
never heard of this model before, thanks for bringing it to my attention. 

BTW, I lived in Brooklyn in 1978 and grew up in Far Rockaway.  

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 9:10:04 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
NY wrote:
>
> The medium step through Rosco Bubbe would be just the thing! Or the Sam or 
> Homer. I've only ridden an older and much larger Sam and it was the bees 
> knees. But if the option comes around, the Rosco would be wonderful for 
> you, and they're Riv blue! 
> Good thing for all good choices...
> -Kai
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 5:53:51 PM UTC-4, Joel wrote:
>>
>> I know Joe B has opinions on this as he has owned at least 2 of them.  
>>
>> My Bleriot is a tad big, not terrible but a tad too high for me.  It also 
>> has very lively handling, especially with Albatross bars.  To counter this 
>> a bit I hold them near the curves which puts more weight on the front end 
>> and is very comfortable for me.  My Atlantis is being built up right know 
>> and will be ready tomorrow.  I have considered replacing the Bleriot with a 
>> Sam or Homer.  Group member Rich has given me some good information, the 
>> Sam will be a tad smaller (1cm) in 51cm and will be a definite fit, the 
>> Homer will probably be fine.  I want the bike should I do this that will be 
>> the most comfort and stable.  The chain stay difference is a couple of CM I 
>> think.  Any thoughts? 
>>
>> Thanks
>> Joel
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Sam Perez]

Oh yeah we connected I am looking for a little wider saddle. As for the bag
how much were you thinking?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 2:10 PM Roberta  wrote:

> What Carradice bag are you looking for?  I have a black Barley, barely
> used and looks new.  I had the [something bigger than the junior], then the
> Junior, then the barley (my fav of all three), but it's still too big for
> me and my hour or two long rides. The only reason I'll be selling it.  I've
> already sold the other two.  ( I got a Banana Sack and it's perfect for my
> shorter rides.)  I'm in Philadelphia.
>
> Abraham Nussbaum just posted a Bertrand Saddle for sale on the board.
>
> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 3:40:19 AM UTC-4, Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>> Sim works SO BAR - 500mm width , 26.0 clamp, reach 95mm, drop 140 , flair
>> 4 degrees, weight 380 according to the website. Minor scuff on the center
>> of bar when installing it.  Installed once a month ago size wasn't right
>> for me paid $120  asking$95 firm
>>
>> Velo orange LEFT BANK BAR $30
>>
>> Velo orange PORTOUR BAR  $30
>>
>> Paul thumbies for Shimano 31.0 clamp  $65
>>
>> Nitto butterfly/ trakking bars  B825AA$80
>>
>> SALSA WOOD CHIPPER (black) 25.4 clamp the tops  are 42 the bottoms flair
>> out has a few scuff marks and bite marks where the clamp bit down $35
>>
>> Nitto gold B259 new never installed $50
>>
>> Orion 8 tiki bar ( mustache bar) in black, has bite marks in the center
>> and bends  512mm width $17
>>
>> Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size
>> $25
>>
>> Brooks swift saddle in black $120
>>
>> Live in sf bay area, open to a safe handoff , if out of the area will
>> ship to lower 48 with additional charge.
>>
>> Super long shot but if I don't ask how will I find out.
>>
>>
>> LOOKING FOR
>> E deluxe 2
>> b68 imperial or b68
>> B17 titanium
>> Reneherse rando bars in 42 or 40
>> Reneherse Baby shoe pass extra lite casing
>> Reneherse Pumpkin ridge tire
>> Reneherse switchback hill tire
>> Berthoud saddle
>> Berthoud mirror
>> Swift bag any type
>> Medium Wald basket
>> E wing shifters
>> Medium shackville shop sack
>> Shackville rear bag
>> Carridance bag
>>
>>
>> Final note I don't know how to post pictures they seem to get rejected.
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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[RBW] Re: 3 Rivendells

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The medium step through Rosco Bubbe would be just the thing! Or the Sam or 
Homer. I've only ridden an older and much larger Sam and it was the bees 
knees. But if the option comes around, the Rosco would be wonderful for 
you, and they're Riv blue! 
Good thing for all good choices...
-Kai


On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 5:53:51 PM UTC-4, Joel wrote:
>
> I know Joe B has opinions on this as he has owned at least 2 of them.  
>
> My Bleriot is a tad big, not terrible but a tad too high for me.  It also 
> has very lively handling, especially with Albatross bars.  To counter this 
> a bit I hold them near the curves which puts more weight on the front end 
> and is very comfortable for me.  My Atlantis is being built up right know 
> and will be ready tomorrow.  I have considered replacing the Bleriot with a 
> Sam or Homer.  Group member Rich has given me some good information, the 
> Sam will be a tad smaller (1cm) in 51cm and will be a definite fit, the 
> Homer will probably be fine.  I want the bike should I do this that will be 
> the most comfort and stable.  The chain stay difference is a couple of CM I 
> think.  Any thoughts? 
>
> Thanks
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: Sellers, post your full emails

[dougP]

When switching from the new version to Classic, a box pops up asking why 
you want to do so.  I made a list of my concerns & sent it to them.  If 
enough of us do that, perhaps it will change their minds.  

My specific concerns are that in the new version, groups with new posts are 
not indicated; in Classic they are bolded, making it easy to select which 
group to review.
In Classic, "mark all as read" is a top line button; in new it's behind 3 
dots.
In Classic, within a group, new posts are bolded; new version it's not 
clear to me if there's any difference between new & old posts.
And of course the lack of or non-functionality of the "reply privately to 
author" function that is so useful in Classic.  

Just for fun, I asked them "What problem are you trying to solve?".  
Probably a question they haven't considered.  OTH, hopefully if they get 
enough pushback they'll rethink this change.

dougP

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:08:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are killing 
> me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most of us 
> can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post 
> without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post 
> is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not 
> sure. Good luck! 

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Re: [RBW] FS/T berthoud saddle

[David B]

While the box does indeed say Agnel, the saddle sure looks like a 
Galibier/Solour. The width I believe matches spec for that narrower saddle 
with the photo with a ruler, and there are no saddlebag loops.
David

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 3:42:16 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Abraham doesn't mention the name of the saddle model, but it's clearly 
> visible in the photos: Agnel.  For those unfamiliar with this model (I'd 
> never heard of it) here's what they say on the Rene Herse site about this 
> model:
>
> Berthoud Women’s Saddle, Agnel/Marie-Blanque 
>
> $235.00 – $299.00
>
> Gilles Berthoud’s extralight women-specific saddle has a shorter nose than 
> the Aravis saddle. Choose between titanium rails (Agnel) for superlight 
> weight and even more comfort (titanium rails flex more), or economical 
> stainless steel rails (Marie-Blanque).
>
> Leather saddles have long offered the ultimate in comfort for 
> long-distance cycling, because they shape themselves to your unique 
> anatomy. Gilles Berthoud’s saddles use thoroughly modern materials and 
> construction methods, while maintaining the advantages of a tensioned 
> leather saddle. We’ve been riding these saddles for years, because we find 
> them so comfortable.
>
> The leather is thick and initially firm, but Berthoud saddles are 
> pre-softened to shorten the break-in. They are comfortable after just a few 
> long rides, and then they last many years. If the leather gets dry, we 
> recommend a light treatment with Obenauf’s leather preservative 
> .
>  
> Berthoud saddles rarely need tensioning. When they do, the tension is easy 
> to adjust with a 5 mm allen key.
>
> On 9/2/20 2:40 PM, abraham nussbaum wrote:
>
> I bought a bike and a saddle off this list last year. The bike is a 
> keeper, the saddle is too narrow. 
>
> It's beautiful-- titanium rails, amazing color, still with original 
> packaging, never treated/broken in-- but a 5 mile ride made it clear I need 
> a wider platform. Unfortunately, while laying around my garage for the 
> past year, it earned a scratch in the top. (Pix here 
> .)
>
> New retails 
> 
>  
> for $299, but given the scratch, I am asking $225 w. shipping CONUS.
>
> Also willing to trade for:
> -mission workshop transit arkiv
> -outershell rack bag
> -XS bike/frameset suitable for a teenage girl
> -a pair of Paul QR skewers
> -something else interesting
>
> Thanks, Abraham
> abraham [at] gmail.com
> amnussbaum [at] gmail
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
>

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[RBW] 3 Rivendells

[Joel]

I know Joe B has opinions on this as he has owned at least 2 of them.  

My Bleriot is a tad big, not terrible but a tad too high for me.  It also 
has very lively handling, especially with Albatross bars.  To counter this 
a bit I hold them near the curves which puts more weight on the front end 
and is very comfortable for me.  My Atlantis is being built up right know 
and will be ready tomorrow.  I have considered replacing the Bleriot with a 
Sam or Homer.  Group member Rich has given me some good information, the 
Sam will be a tad smaller (1cm) in 51cm and will be a definite fit, the 
Homer will probably be fine.  I want the bike should I do this that will be 
the most comfort and stable.  The chain stay difference is a couple of CM I 
think.  Any thoughts? 

Thanks
Joel

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[RBW] Re: For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Roberta]

What Carradice bag are you looking for?  I have a black Barley, barely used 
and looks new.  I had the [something bigger than the junior], then the 
Junior, then the barley (my fav of all three), but it's still too big for 
me and my hour or two long rides. The only reason I'll be selling it.  I've 
already sold the other two.  ( I got a Banana Sack and it's perfect for my 
shorter rides.)  I'm in Philadelphia.

Abraham Nussbaum just posted a Bertrand Saddle for sale on the board.

On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 3:40:19 AM UTC-4, Sam Perez wrote:
>
> Sim works SO BAR - 500mm width , 26.0 clamp, reach 95mm, drop 140 , flair 
> 4 degrees, weight 380 according to the website. Minor scuff on the center 
> of bar when installing it.  Installed once a month ago size wasn't right 
> for me paid $120  asking$95 firm 
>
> Velo orange LEFT BANK BAR $30
>
> Velo orange PORTOUR BAR  $30
>
> Paul thumbies for Shimano 31.0 clamp  $65
>
> Nitto butterfly/ trakking bars  B825AA$80
>
> SALSA WOOD CHIPPER (black) 25.4 clamp the tops  are 42 the bottoms flair 
> out has a few scuff marks and bite marks where the clamp bit down $35 
>
> Nitto gold B259 new never installed $50
>
> Orion 8 tiki bar ( mustache bar) in black, has bite marks in the center 
> and bends  512mm width $17
>
> Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size $25
>
> Brooks swift saddle in black $120
>
> Live in sf bay area, open to a safe handoff , if out of the area will ship 
> to lower 48 with additional charge. 
>
> Super long shot but if I don't ask how will I find out.
>
>
> LOOKING FOR 
> E deluxe 2
> b68 imperial or b68
> B17 titanium
> Reneherse rando bars in 42 or 40
> Reneherse Baby shoe pass extra lite casing 
> Reneherse Pumpkin ridge tire
> Reneherse switchback hill tire
> Berthoud saddle 
> Berthoud mirror 
> Swift bag any type 
> Medium Wald basket 
> E wing shifters
> Medium shackville shop sack
> Shackville rear bag
> Carridance bag
>
>
> Final note I don't know how to post pictures they seem to get rejected. 
> Thanks in advance!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS/T berthoud saddle

[Steve Palincsar]

Abraham doesn't mention the name of the saddle model, but it's clearly 
visible in the photos: Agnel.  For those unfamiliar with this model (I'd 
never heard of it) here's what they say on the Rene Herse site about 
this model:




  Berthoud Women’s Saddle, Agnel/Marie-Blanque

$235.00 – $299.00

Gilles Berthoud’s extralight women-specific saddle has a shorter nose 
than the Aravis saddle. Choose between titanium rails (Agnel) for 
superlight weight and even more comfort (titanium rails flex more), or 
economical stainless steel rails (Marie-Blanque).


Leather saddles have long offered the ultimate in comfort for 
long-distance cycling, because they shape themselves to your unique 
anatomy. Gilles Berthoud’s saddles use thoroughly modern materials and 
construction methods, while maintaining the advantages of a tensioned 
leather saddle. We’ve been riding these saddles for years, because we 
find them so comfortable.


The leather is thick and initially firm, but Berthoud saddles are 
pre-softened to shorten the break-in. They are comfortable after just 
a few long rides, and then they last many years. If the leather gets 
dry, we recommend a light treatment with Obenauf’s leather 
preservative 
. 
Berthoud saddles rarely need tensioning. When they do, the tension is 
easy to adjust with a 5 mm allen key.



On 9/2/20 2:40 PM, abraham nussbaum wrote:
I bought a bike and a saddle off this list last year. The bike is a 
keeper, the saddle is too narrow.


It's beautiful-- titanium rails, amazing color, still with original 
packaging, never treated/broken in-- but a 5 mile ride made it clear I 
need a wider platform. Unfortunately, while layingaround my garage for 
the past year, it earned a scratch in the top. (Pix here 
.)


New retails 
 
for $299, but given the scratch, I am asking $225 w. shipping CONUS.


Also willing to trade for:
-mission workshop transit arkiv
-outershell rack bag
-XS bike/frameset suitable for a teenage girl
-a pair of Paul QR skewers
-something else interesting

Thanks, Abraham
abraham [at] gmail.com
amnussbaum [at] gmail


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[RBW] Re: Clem spotted in the wild!

[Jason Fuller]

Ha, I spotted a Clem L as it passed me on some park trails on Monday - 
which is very unusual here in BC, we have a far lower Riv-density here!  

Wheelies with >50cm chainstays are more impressive too 

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[RBW] FS: Parts - 650b tires mostly, Nitto Pearl 12cm/26.0, Soma 700c 38mm tires

[David B]

In search of a new tire for my 650b-converted Redwood, I've tried out a LOT 
of 650b tires and amassed a somewhat embarrassing collection. I posted to 
the 650b group, but figured this might be a good fit too.

I have Ultradynamico Rose tires on the way from Riv (with a Wavie bar I'm 
looking forward to trying out) so need to pay off the credit card!

I've set up everything in my webshop. Links below.

Prices listed INCLUDE shipping in the US. 
I can also ship outside of the US - contact me for shipping quotes.

Since Google Groups is a bit of a mess with PMs right now, you can go 
through this link in my webshop to contact me if you can't reply offlist: 
https://treetop.bigcartel.com/contact

There's other items in my webshop, on-topic bike bags and a couple other 
parts and off-topic leather goods. Feel free to add those items and I'll 
adjust combined shipping if I can fit everything in a padded flat rate 
envelope.

Tires Available...

1. Panaracer Pari Moto Tires 
 - 650b x 48mm - pair, new 
in packaging, black/black - kinda forgot I had these - $65 shipped

2. WTB Horizon Tires 
 - 650b x 
47mm - pair, tanwalls, minimal use, extremely minimal wear to treads, 
really not noticeable, so nearly like new tread - $70

3. Soma Grand Randonneur 
 - 
650b x 42mm green label, pair, lots and lots of use on these, tread is 
thin, best for a backup or to test fit in a frame - $25 shipped

4. Continental Contact 
 
- 650b, 1.9", pair, ended up being too wide for my frame, wire bead, 
minimal wear to tread - $45 shipped

5. Nitto Pearl Stem 
 - 
12cm, 26.0mm, older version with script in side of extension - $45 shipped

6. Soma Supple Vitesse SL 
 
- 700 x 38mm - pair, tanwalls, minimal use, briefly had these on my 
now-sold Roadini - $55 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Sellers, post your full emails

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thanks for bringing this up, Joe - 

There is no discrete setting for me to allow this. I've flipped back and 
forth between new/old google groups and cannot replicate the condition on 
my MacOS system using Google Chrome.

Would one of you mind sending me a screen capture (a true screen capture - 
not a photo of your monitor) when the "greyed out" Reply to Sender option 
appears?

Email to cyclofiend overat gmail

Another variable would be whether or not you have permission to post to the 
group, but since people are posting on the topic without having to be 
approved by me, I'm assuming that's not an issue. 

I have heard some issues for folks on Android (which is odd, since it's 
Google's OS...but there are large number of Android flavors...)

Will poke around a bit - for those you who experience this, look for 
"report a bug with new groups" option and send to the googlers... 

- J



On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:42:30 AM UTC-7, Dave S wrote:
>
> Being that we can still see it (but not use it), I'm wondering if the 
> reply to author is a setting that the moderator has to re-activate in the 
> settings for the "new" groups.
>
> I've reverted back to old for now and can still use it on desktop.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:37:27 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>>
>> "Reply to author" is shown in gray scale.  Maybe it'll become functional 
>> once again?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
>>
>>> Good call, Joe. It's true, I can't find a way to email a user when on 
>>> the new google groups on the laptop. When using the iphone I can't even 
>>> reply to a thread...the option doesn't even exist. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:08:57 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are 
 killing me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most 
 of 
 us can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post 
 without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post 
 is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not 
 sure. Good luck! 
>>>
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[RBW] FS/T berthoud saddle

[abraham nussbaum]

I bought a bike and a saddle off this list last year. The bike is a keeper, 
the saddle is too narrow. 

It's beautiful-- titanium rails, amazing color, still with original 
packaging, never treated/broken in-- but a 5 mile ride made it clear I need 
a wider platform. Unfortunately, while laying around my garage for the past 
year, it earned a scratch in the top. (Pix here 
.)

New retails 

 
for $299, but given the scratch, I am asking $225 w. shipping CONUS.

Also willing to trade for:
-mission workshop transit arkiv
-outershell rack bag
-XS bike/frameset suitable for a teenage girl
-a pair of Paul QR skewers
-something else interesting

Thanks, Abraham
abraham [at] gmail.com
amnussbaum [at] gmail

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[RBW] WTB Backabikes

[Kevin L]

Anybody sitting on a pair or a single? Don't seem to be restocked often at 
Riv. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto racks (RBW52, Campee 34F) and an Erlen rack

[Alex K]

RBW52 SOLD!
On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:38:33 AM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:

>
> Erlen rack SOLD
> On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 12:44:39 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:
>
>> Hey all.  After much hemming, hawing and spending, I've decided that 
>> there is just nothing like a Pass and Stow rack.  I love the aesthetics and 
>> craftsmanship of Nitto racks, but I love going local and those Pass and 
>> Stows are just..wow.  Anyhow, I am going to be parting with a Nitto 
>> RBW52 front rack which was used for two weeks, a lightly used Nitto Campee 
>> 34F Front rack, and my Erlen seatpost rail rack.  Local (Bay Area) pickup 
>> would be ideal, I can even deliver if you're on the BART line...
>>
>> DM me for pics, or email me @ ack...@gmail.com
>>
>> $175 for the RBW52 rack
>> $115 for the Erlen
>> $125 for the Campee
>>
>> Thanks all.  Hope you're enjoying your new Clems as much as I am.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA pants and shorts replacement elastic band?

[Patrick Cronin]

Edwin,

I've tried two replacements, both 1". One was from Amazon and it was total 
crap. The other was from JoAnn Fabric and it is perfect! The latter was 
"non-roll" and after comparing the two, I now understand what that means, 
i.e. the Amazon one was so thin that it rolls lengthwise, whereas the JoAnn 
band has ribbing that stops it from rolling or doubling over.
 Here's a link with different colors:
https://www.joann.com/sewing/sewing-and-quilting-supplies/elastic/

I've also ditched the buckle and gone with a 1" plastic strap adjuster...

Cheers,
Patrick
On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 8:16:00 AM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

> Has anyone replaced the elastic band on their MUSA pants or shorts? I 
> replaced with climbing webbing, but it has no stretch. I would love to hear 
> of a tried a true source, as it is hard to see how thick the bands are 
> online, and I am not sure where to even go in person to find such a thing.
> I think it is a 15mm elastic band.
>
> Thanks for any advice,
>
> Edwin
> Nashville
>

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[RBW] Re: Who is using bike lights?

[Joel]

A picture of these was posted, here is the link.

3feetplease.com





On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:55:05 PM UTC-4, Joel wrote:
>
> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight. 
>  I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your 
> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>
> Thanks 
>
> Joel
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[RBW] Re: FS: Gore Infinium Hooded Jacket Large

[Dave Grossman]

Bumping this up.  I've had a few questions but no takers.  

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:52:01 PM UTC-5 Dave Grossman wrote:

> New with tags, Men's Large, Gore Infinium Hooded Jacket.  Ultralight, 
> awesome, just a tad snug.  It is a small running large for reference.
>
> Asking $75 Shipped
>
>
> https://www.gorewear.com/us/en-us/r7-partial-gore-tex-infinium-hooded-jacket-100459.html
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[RBW] FS Gravelkings 650B x 43

[Eric Floden]

Local pickup only...3 available @ $CDN42 each. Bought new by me this year.
(Sigh)

https://www.mec.ca/en/gearswap/post/659543

EricF
Vancouver BC

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Re: [RBW] For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Sam Perez]

Yep, minimal and less weight.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:56 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Aha, got it. So not only racing weight but more aerodynamic.
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:47 AM Sam Perez  wrote:
>
>> It is half as tall as the standard large basket but the same footprint
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:44 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> "Racing basket ..." -- I'm sure that this is meant tongue-in-cheek, but
>>> can you describe why you call it "half"?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:40 AM Sam Perez 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ...
 Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size
 $25

>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Patrick Moore]

Aha, got it. So not only racing weight but more aerodynamic.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 9:47 AM Sam Perez  wrote:

> It is half as tall as the standard large basket but the same footprint
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:44 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> "Racing basket ..." -- I'm sure that this is meant tongue-in-cheek, but
>> can you describe why you call it "half"?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:40 AM Sam Perez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size
>>> $25
>>>
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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Re: [RBW] For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Sam Perez]

It is half as tall as the standard large basket but the same footprint

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:44 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> "Racing basket ..." -- I'm sure that this is meant tongue-in-cheek, but
> can you describe why you call it "half"?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:40 AM Sam Perez  wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size
>> $25
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Patrick Moore]

"Racing basket ..." -- I'm sure that this is meant tongue-in-cheek, but can
you describe why you call it "half"?


On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:40 AM Sam Perez  wrote:

> ...
> Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size $25
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62 CM Hunqapillar and other goodies.

[Zack]

And the hunqapillar and seat post are sold! 

Also have a Nitto big front rack, same thing, a few dings here and there 
but p great shape. *$150*

Paul Touring Canti Brake, Silver* $75*

Paul Neo Retro Brake, Silver* $75*

These prices don't include shipping, will figure out whatever shipping 
costs are and pass them along to you. If you want the Hunq and don't live 
in Portland, I will try and find a place to box and ship. More pics, but 
couldn't figure out how to get them to post. 
On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 8:02:40 PM UTC-7 Jan O. wrote:

> Beautiful Hunqapillar frame Zack. If only it were a 58cm...
>
> Jan
> San Francisco, CA
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[RBW] Re: Sellers, post your full emails

[Dave S]

Being that we can still see it (but not use it), I'm wondering if the reply 
to author is a setting that the moderator has to re-activate in the 
settings for the "new" groups.

I've reverted back to old for now and can still use it on desktop.

Dave



On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:37:27 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> "Reply to author" is shown in gray scale.  Maybe it'll become functional 
> once again?
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
>
>> Good call, Joe. It's true, I can't find a way to email a user when on the 
>> new google groups on the laptop. When using the iphone I can't even reply 
>> to a thread...the option doesn't even exist. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:08:57 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are killing 
>>> me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most of us 
>>> can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post 
>>> without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post 
>>> is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not 
>>> sure. Good luck! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sellers, post your full emails

[Ray]

This is not ideal, but I've found that a work around is to revert your 
Groups to the old style (click Settings > Return to classic Google Groups) 
allows you to send private messages to posters. If you prefer the style of 
the new Groups, you can change it back by clicking the "View New Groups" 
button in the upper left when you're finished sending the PM.

Still, it's a good idea to include an email in your post--makes things 
easier for everyone.

Thanks,
Ray

On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:37:27 PM UTC-5 dougP wrote:

> "Reply to author" is shown in gray scale.  Maybe it'll become functional 
> once again?
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
>
>> Good call, Joe. It's true, I can't find a way to email a user when on the 
>> new google groups on the laptop. When using the iphone I can't even reply 
>> to a thread...the option doesn't even exist. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:08:57 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are killing 
>>> me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most of us 
>>> can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post 
>>> without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post 
>>> is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not 
>>> sure. Good luck! 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Path Less Pedaled will review a Riv!

[RichS]

Hey Craig,

Enjoyed those ads. How about supple as a constrictor but lively as a kitten?

Best,
Rich in ATL - still liking my Sam 6 years on

On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 5:07:02 PM UTC-4 John Phillips wrote:

> I think these are the 56cm wide Nitto Albatross bars that Soma offers with 
> the 31.8mm clamp diameter:
>
> Nitto Albatross Bars 
> 
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 6:08:07 AM UTC-7 Joel wrote:
>
>>
>> This is their version, I do not believe it is a Nitto.  
>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/oxford-bar
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 7:34:28 AM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed recently that SOMA only has one 56cm wide Albatross listed & 
>>> it's for 31.8 clamps!?
>>>
>>>
>>> H . . . . ?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Any flare for ankle clearance on Rivendell's Silver cranks?

[Nick Payne]

Thanks, but I use 170mm cranks. I've decided to use a reasonably mint pair 
of Deore XT M739 cranks that I have in 170mm. Although they use 94/58 BCD 
rather than 110/74, I have quite a few chainrings lying around that fit the 
94 bolt circle, plus the chainrings that came with the cranks look 
remarkably unworn and don't need replacing - judging by the generally 
unmarked condition, I doubt that the cranks were ever used for more than a 
few rides:




Nick

On Tuesday, 1 September 2020 21:01:43 UTC+10, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> I have the same problem. They are pretty similar to the Sugino XD, but a 
> bit less clearance. The best I know of is the 90s XTR M900 crank, but they 
> are getting hard to find. I have a used set for sale in 175mm if that's 
> your length. In 94/58 the old XT and LX from that era are also really nice, 
> I build them up as 22-36-46 triples for all-road usage. I have some of 
> those in various condition I could sell.
>
> -Dave J
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 5:31:38 AM UTC-4, Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if, and if so how much the arms on the Silver cranks 
>> flare out to provide additional ankle clearance. i.e. Is the pedal end of 
>> the crank further from the centerline of the bike than the BB end. I ride 
>> with fairly pronounced toes out / heels in stance, and with normal spindle 
>> length pedals, I need the crank to provide around 10mm additional clearance 
>> to prevent the inside of my ankle or shoe heel from brushing against the 
>> crank on each revolution. The Sugino XD that I have on one bike give me 
>> about the right amount of additional clearance, but I'm not fond of the 
>> hidden chainring bolt behind the crank.
>>
>> Any other 110/74 cranks that match what I'm after?
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>

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[RBW] For sale bars/ saddles open to trade.

[Sam Perez]

Sim works SO BAR - 500mm width , 26.0 clamp, reach 95mm, drop 140 , flair 4
degrees, weight 380 according to the website. Minor scuff on the center of
bar when installing it.  Installed once a month ago size wasn't right for
me paid $120  asking$95 firm

Velo orange LEFT BANK BAR $30

Velo orange PORTOUR BAR  $30

Paul thumbies for Shimano 31.0 clamp  $65

Nitto butterfly/ trakking bars  B825AA$80

SALSA WOOD CHIPPER (black) 25.4 clamp the tops  are 42 the bottoms flair
out has a few scuff marks and bite marks where the clamp bit down $35

Nitto gold B259 new never installed $50

Orion 8 tiki bar ( mustache bar) in black, has bite marks in the center and
bends  512mm width $17

Brand new silver half Wald basket ( racing basket) in huge / large size $25

Brooks swift saddle in black $120

Live in sf bay area, open to a safe handoff , if out of the area will ship
to lower 48 with additional charge.

Super long shot but if I don't ask how will I find out.


LOOKING FOR
E deluxe 2
b68 imperial or b68
B17 titanium
Reneherse rando bars in 42 or 40
Reneherse Baby shoe pass extra lite casing
Reneherse Pumpkin ridge tire
Reneherse switchback hill tire
Berthoud saddle
Berthoud mirror
Swift bag any type
Medium Wald basket
E wing shifters
Medium shackville shop sack
Shackville rear bag
Carridance bag


Final note I don't know how to post pictures they seem to get rejected.
Thanks in advance!

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