Re: [RBW] Heinous Goatheads - Re-learning Old Lessons
Badges of Honors, tube badges are. Argh. Beth Harmon has tubes richly decorated with them. The point is in the tire, not the tube, methinks. So seek thy Goatheads there, but thee knowst that, mate. However: imagine a more resilient tube and slime mixt in the proper tire. There be treasure! --aint it talk like a pirate day yet? On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Contest. Two questions. Winner takes all. 1. How many punctures have you gotten in one ride of no more than 50 miles? 2. How many patches have you counted on any one tube? BTW: what is an Einstein patch? On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:55 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: My epic tube patching fest continues. Normally when I get a flat I can track down the puncture patch it and be done with the ordeal. I forgot that this doesn't apply when one rides through a patch of goatheads. I rode througha patch about a week ago and have been working on three tubes ever since. One is now holding air, two are still flat, I've run out of einstein patches. The tubes are covered in buboes from all the patches I've used. A while back I lived and rode in Albuquerque and learned that if I rode through a patch of goatheads the best practice was to throw the tubes away. I should have done that with these but this has become a 'tool time' sort of challenge. I ordered more patches. The struggle continues. sigh, JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heinous Goatheads - Re-learning Old Lessons
I meant THOU knowest that... On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Bill Gibson (III) bill.bgib...@gmail.comwrote: Badges of Honors, tube badges are. Argh. Beth Harmon has tubes richly decorated with them. The point is in the tire, not the tube, methinks. So seek thy Goatheads there, but thee knowst that, mate. However: imagine a more resilient tube and slime mixt in the proper tire. There be treasure! --aint it talk like a pirate day yet? On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Contest. Two questions. Winner takes all. 1. How many punctures have you gotten in one ride of no more than 50 miles? 2. How many patches have you counted on any one tube? BTW: what is an Einstein patch? On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:55 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: My epic tube patching fest continues. Normally when I get a flat I can track down the puncture patch it and be done with the ordeal. I forgot that this doesn't apply when one rides through a patch of goatheads. I rode througha patch about a week ago and have been working on three tubes ever since. One is now holding air, two are still flat, I've run out of einstein patches. The tubes are covered in buboes from all the patches I've used. A while back I lived and rode in Albuquerque and learned that if I rode through a patch of goatheads the best practice was to throw the tubes away. I should have done that with these but this has become a 'tool time' sort of challenge. I ordered more patches. The struggle continues. sigh, JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: plethoric touring photos
Gotta pile on here...great roads, thanks for taking us on them! Must find that book and route. My guess on the panniers is a Baggins variant, probably not available. But there are some good bags available nowadays. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM, mizrachi mizrachi1...@gmail.com wrote: Great photos, erik. What camera are you using? On Sep 13, 2:53 am, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah Erik, you always have some pretty rad photos from your adventures. Definitely inspiring.Love that old set from snow capped Mt. Diablo. -Mike On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:21 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: hey bobs and rbdub'rs, last month i did a ride north to south, following bil paul's 1991 route guide the pacific crest trail. beautiful roads and trails: rode my atlantis (like always). i'm getting photos up onto my blog, at bikenoir.blogspot.com, and figured it might be of interest to some of you all. there were also many other adventures had this summer, in particular a great 3 day trip through the ventana wilderness and more s24o's than I can count off the top of my head. enjoy. erik -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tell me I'm crazy
I won't call you crazy. Anyone willing to take on a wonderful and awful 2CV is eccentric not crazy, and is a Romantic. Part of the Rivendell life. A fine custom bike that isn't ridden is a tragedy, and if the frame works in a trike conversion, I say it should be made ridden. It would be even more unique than a custom, if it works, and that is better than hanging on a wall. But, my impression is that Joe Starck has made some wonderful bikes, and that he has suffered from mental illness, and can't/doesn't want to make frames anymore, which isn't all that lucrative anyway. So, I won't call you crazy. Just unique! On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat I bought a Workman folding utility trike to use as a grocery runabout; I've always hankered after a British racing trike, and this was a cheap ($200) way to get some of the fun, combine it with outstanding short distance carrying utility (3-paper-sack rear backet) and try out tricycling. I need to raise the gear to 60 or 65 from the current 40 (have a bb converter for the OPC bb from Harris on order), and I figured this was as close as I'd get to a racing trike for a long while. I've been riding it and having great fun. But this morning I talked to Dave Porter about my Herse (generator modifications) and Citroen (restoration) and he told me he could convert a bicycle frame to a right hand drive trike. Now I've got a wonderful, 1999 Joe Starck 650C fixed gofast hanging on the wall not being ridden much (the newer but very similar Riv, now with the Kojaks and with racks and, soon, Civia flat alum fenders gets much more use). I've put not quite 11K miles on the '99 since it was delivered in April, 1999. So: I am seriously thinking of having Dave do a top quality trike conversion job with the '99. It will be a fixed gear or ss for simplicity and because I enjoy that sort of riding, and will have provision for an easy on/off bag platform or basket. I'd use a front fender. I'd also use what I can of the very nice 650c wheels, since I have an extra 571 Sun rim or two. What do y'all think? Eccentricity, or a descent into madness? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OT: Latin Experts, Please Help
Thanks, Patrick! Of course, adultorum, of the adults...Gaudeamus igitur, juvenes dum ,sumus... On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That means We are all adulterers here. OK, seriously: Hic adulti omnes sumus would be my guess. Adultus -a -um; second conjugation; plural nomintative masculine Adulti -- sorry, you have to choose either M or F or Neuter. Sumus -- second person plural present indicative. Adultorum means of the adults. Patrick very, nay, painfully aware that classical Latin lends itself to scurrility and obscenity far exceeding the invective poverty of English Moore On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: I want to say something like We Are All Adults Here. My 8th grade latin class and Google Translate gives me Hic Nos Adultorum Sunt. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V00_kQFkuMYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior!
Wow! Smart, strong, non-violent, effective, courageous. Well done, Chica Warrior. I tip my helmet and ride with a little more pride this morning! Carry On! Good story. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I will tell my 4year old grandaughter, who has mastered both her skuut and a tagalong and is ready to ride her very own pink bike, about Liesl RivChicaWarrior Superhero! Thanks for sharing with us And thanks for doing the right thing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How to treat large dings that have rusted?
I am not Jim, but hobby shops and the fingernail polish section of drugstores, etc. have many colors, some of which may match. Don't try to touch up all in one go. Layers, light sanding. Be happy with beausage. We live in Rivendell, remember. Use a pencil eraser to apply pressure to a little wad of steel wool and keep the abrasion to a tiny area. Twirl the abrasive. After touch up, you can even get and apply clear fingernail polish. Fear not. But leave no rust under paint. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:45 PM, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: Jim, can you elaborate on what you mean by enamel? Thanks. On Jul 1, 11:23 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 7/1/11 7:15 AM, Jeffrey at unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote: I have several large abrasions through the paint that have rusted. what do you do to treat them? If I just paint/fingernail polish them will that stop the rust underneath, or do I need to remove the rust first? If so, how? Clean the rust with fine steel wool, then enamel. -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: HS
Retro-direct, anyone? My guess is that he means it when the HS will be a more elegant, maybe a more integrated design. It may be less of a bike meant to be widely adaptable to different configurations, as many Rivendell designs are. But it won't be a single-purpose bike at all. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Yea that looks pretty cooloff road looking which seems to be where the Riv folks ride quite a bit. On Jun 20, 5:29 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Read more about it here... http://tinyurl.com/3g7eyk4 Could this be it??? If so, that's some pretty funky stuff... On Jun 20, 8:22 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: OK folks... HERE is the solution to HS (And thanks Esteban for giving me a clue)... It stands for Hammerschmidt... it's a 2-speed crankset developed by SRAM (similar to the Schlumpf) with a built-in transmission (in the crank). It obviates the need for a front derailleur. The question is whether this will be an all-out front AND rear internal transmission bike... I say yes, it will. OK, everyone can watch reality TV once again, I'm spent Peace, BB On Jun 20, 7:47 pm, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed. Is the shifter indexed or just the hub? The SA 8-speed hub isn't indexed, but it definitely wants to be centered into each gear without much feedback. Supposedly Sheldon Brown could do it, but like 99% of the things Sheldon could do, it was beyond my skills. I miss Sheldon. Part of the allure of the thumbshifter (which would be about equal with a barend shifter) was that I used the wheel/cable/shifter setup as a self-contained module that I could have on or off of my single speed bike in a couple of minutes with nothing but 2 or 3 zipties for the cable and tightening the shifter clamp on the bar. Except for the constant is it in or out of gear fiddliness and ker-chunking out of gear under load it was great. I'd like a clamp-on downtube shifter best of all for this concept. On Jun 20, 2:53 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: It would be very cool if they also made a real shifter for the Rohloff. I'm not in the market for a new bike but I'd be very, very happy to get a bar end shifter that was setup to handle the extra throw required by the Rohloff! I'd ditch that damned twist shifter in a split second. I feel the same way about the SA 8-speed I have and its twist shifter. I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed. Is the shifter indexed or just the hub? The silly thing about not offering a bar-end or similar for the Rohloff is that the shifter has no indexing - it's all handled at the hub - so the only issues are the dual cable setup (easy enough) and pulling enough cable (more work but doable.) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
Hmm. Currently 3 for me? but I maintain a total of 5 in the family, and dream of a different group, similar to Grant's and other's ideals. I would like to surprise ma femme with a road bike that really fits her, but she need small wheels I think. (This gives me an idea for another thread). I might add a Velomobile, if I were a rich man. Ma femme will disapprove, convinced that no one needs more than one, and she is correct, of course. 1. Green Quickbeam, modified today for the first time with a donated SRAM i-Motion 9, which I built into a rear wheel, again, building a rear wheel from scratch for the first time. She's tension balanced, and true, and now with 9 speeds! Jack Browns are remarkably flat-free in this glassy, spiky place. Kinda worried about parking it for very long if I can't see it. 2. 1997 Cannondale F-1000 Race Ready Mountain Bike with Headshock, Made in the USA, with crazy light crack and fail cranks and frame, so far so good, town bike modified with Albatross bars, Brooks Champion, and mudguards, even though I live in the Urban Sonoran desert. Still worry about parking it around the University. 3. Co-Owner with ma femme of an Early 90's Gary Fisher Mountain Bike Tandem, Black with Splatter Paint Finish, lots of good old Shimano, and thumb shifters. Not ridden since I dumped her once and she got her R+E custom, which she really needs and loves (she is 4' 10). Would not worry about parking it, it's too weird around here. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: My stable: 1995 Riv Road Std, with 46-30 x 11-32 gearing and the widest tires it will fit (32 mm Vittoria Rando Hypers), as my comfortable cruising/ exploring/century bike. I bought it new and expect the frame will stay with me forever in one guise or another. 2006 (?) Calfee Tetra Pro, tutto Campagnolo, my go-fast club sport bike. One of the very few carbon frames I would trust enough to own. Bought used for a fraction of it's new price. 1984 Miyata 1000 tourer, my dedicated commuter bike. Bought new as a frameset in 1983, another bike I never expect to sell. 1990-ish Steve Rex road bike, bought the frame used for a song in 1993 or 4. Currently set up as a fixed gear with inverted Albatross bars. Great riding frame that's a bit too long for me, should have sold it years ago. 1999 (?) Burley Django recumbent, bought when I was having some medical problems that made riding an upright bike problematic. Hasn't been ridden in two years now, I really need to sell this one. Gen 1 Kogswell P/R, 650b. I commuted on this bike for a year, but it's a bit small for me. Another bike I need to sell. On order - Rawland rSogn, intended as an all-rounder, gravel roadster, take camping, exploring bike. Under consideration - Rawland Nordavinden, lightweight sportif/rando/ century bike with clearance for reasonably large tires. If I go with one of these, it would inherit the Riv's current parts, the Riv would go fixed (maybe with an S-A S3X three speed fixed gear hub), and the Rex would go away. If I run into some money (not likely), an upgrade to the proposed Ti version or to a Hampsten Crema, Riv Roadeo or something comparable might be in the cards. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Watter bottle recommendations?
I have and daily enjoy my Klean Kanteens (sp?) both single and double wall bottles. The folks at the company seems to be great, too, it might be a family design and sourcing operation, except the bottles aren't made locally, as in the USA. They sent me a recall notice for one of my bottle caps, then sent me two replacements even though the cap I sent in wasn't defective, so I bought another Klean Kanteen. I'm using them in some Camelback neoprene sleeves in off bike use, and in my Quickbeam's bottle cages in on bike use. I got my Quickeam's cages from Velo Orange. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cages.html I like what Velo Orange is up to almost as much a what Rivendell is up to and want to support both, but... I can't think of a better use of the wool in an all-used-up-and-can't-be-darned-any-more-sock-or-sweater than an evaporative cooling sleeve for a feeder bottle. Boil the wool, then use scissors, then sew it up to fit. I remember bike shops selling little wool bottle socks just for that purpose decades ago. At this time of year they dry out in about 1/2 hour in Southern Arizona. Remember those canteens with the wool serape pattern covers? Works. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote: Do they fit on KK Iris cages? I thought they didn't... Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Robert: You should try one of the double-walled insulated KK bottles! They are awesome. You can keep coffee hot and water cold for a pretty good amount of time. In my experience it's a little better at keeping coffee hot for a while than water cold, but it's still a vast improvement over the single walled KK. -Z On Jun 15, 1:19 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: I use KKs but I've always put a wet sock around them. This not only stops the rattling but keeps the water much cooler in the Hawaiian sun. With the right sock it's not terribly unattractive and as it works well I don't worry about how it looks. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpgAloha! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around? I suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not making noise every time you go over a bump. On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the King Kage Iris. I have them on almost all my bikes. They fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well. I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle Festival this past weekend. He made most of a cage in front of me in under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike -- I think that's welded on). I am happy to support a local businessman (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product. On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: King Cage Iris cages. Not as elegant as the Nittos, but still look interesting and have held up well so far (bought earlier this year). They carry KK bottles fine, with no need for twine or leather. The King Iris is the best cage there is for an under-the-downtube upside down mount, as the weight of the bottle cannot pull the cage open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: [RBW] Re: Watter bottle recommendations?
I recall 3% RH recently, though today it's a balmy 10%. We're still on evaporative cooling in our house, where I am spending a lazy day building a wheel out of the solar radiation, where it hit 110F this PM. Planning a ride and a swim after sundown. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Humidity in Tucson right now is 5% on Accuweather.com and 6% on forecast.weather.gov, the present temperature is 105 degrees (it gets hotter in Tempe where Bill lives). I've been able to get a nice neoprene water bottle cover from a friend that perfectly fits a 18 oz. Klean Kanteen. Unfortunately, the covers don't seem to be available commercially (the cover I have is a promotional item for a particular company). Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 1:58 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bill!! Thanks for that obvious but (speaking for myself) rather stupidly forgotten connection: felted wool over metal water containers: Of course, I see any number of canteens so covered. I must try that on my metal bottles. And I agree 'bout VO: some nice stuff but, for many of their items, low end quality to match the very reasonable prices. Just got an on-sale Randonneur front rack for the Commuter Riv: it is usable and, for $55, a good buy as the market right now goes, but not at all benchmark quality. How low have you seen you (Tucson?) humidity? I've clocked ours here in NW ABQ at 4%. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Bill Gibson (III) bill.bgib...@gmail.comwrote: I like what Velo Orange is up to almost as much a what Rivendell is up to and want to support both, but... I can't think of a better use of the wool in an all-used-up-and-can't-be-darned-any-more-sock-or-sweater than an evaporative cooling sleeve for a feeder bottle. Boil the wool, then use scissors, then sew it up to fit. I remember bike shops selling little wool bottle socks just for that purpose decades ago. At this time of year they dry out in about 1/2 hour in Southern Arizona. Remember those canteens with the wool serape pattern covers? Works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Watter bottle recommendations?
Oh, I forgot...one of my Velo Orange cages broke, so I repaired it with a fillet of transparent epoxy. It's held so well I forgot I'd done that... but on really bumpy rides I have the habit of using an old toe strap to keep things from falling out of the cage I'm not drinking from. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: I like that the Iris is stiffest at the top of the cage where it can best restrain the bottle. My old Riv Aellee's (sp?) are quite rattly with a Klean Kanteen because the whole cage pivots from the bottom edge of the cage. The only flaw I see with myfavorite Iris/KK 28oz wide mouth combo is that the King cages don't have a tab for strap mounting. One of my bikes has cage mounts on the down tube but not seat tube, and I need straps to attach a bottle cage. I see that VO says of their Moderniste that the newer, stronger version cannot be used with bottle cage clamps so even if they are now made better, they no longer would solve my only issue with King. Pity... On Jun 15, 1:51 pm, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: My Velo Orange cages fell apart after a few short mile. Broken weld. My Kleen Kanteen's have no rattling AT ALL in my King Cage Iris. Both insulated and regular. On Jun 15, 1:14 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: I've found the VO cages to be underwhelming in build quality - I've had 3 different styles (type I, II, and moderniste) and two of them have separated at the welds, and one of the three wasn't even close to true either - e.g. crooked lines set-up pre-weld (one of the type I/II - forget which). On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Bill Gibson (III) wrote: I have and daily enjoy my Klean Kanteens (sp?) both single and double wall bottles. The folks at the company seems to be great, too, it might be a family design and sourcing operation, except the bottles aren't made locally, as in the USA. They sent me a recall notice for one of my bottle caps, then sent me two replacements even though the cap I sent in wasn't defective, so I bought another Klean Kanteen. I'm using them in some Camelback neoprene sleeves in off bike use, and in my Quickbeam's bottle cages in on bike use. I got my Quickeam's cages from Velo Orange. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cage... I like what Velo Orange is up to almost as much a what Rivendell is up to and want to support both, but... I can't think of a better use of the wool in an all-used-up-and-can't-be-darned-any-more-sock-or-sweater than an evaporative cooling sleeve for a feeder bottle. Boil the wool, then use scissors, then sew it up to fit. I remember bike shops selling little wool bottle socks just for that purpose decades ago. At this time of year they dry out in about 1/2 hour in Southern Arizona. Remember those canteens with the wool serape pattern covers? Works. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Do they fit on KK Iris cages? I thought they didn't... Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Robert: You should try one of the double-walled insulated KK bottles! They are awesome. You can keep coffee hot and water cold for a pretty good amount of time. In my experience it's a little better at keeping coffee hot for a while than water cold, but it's still a vast improvement over the single walled KK. -Z On Jun 15, 1:19 pm, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: I use KKs but I've always put a wet sock around them. This not only stops the rattling but keeps the water much cooler in the Hawaiian sun. With the right sock it's not terribly unattractive and as it works well I don't worry about how it looks. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4355453296_13cf567091_z.jpg Aloha! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Those of you using the Kleen Kanteen--do they rattle around? I suspect there is a difference between being secure in the cage and not making noise every time you go over a bump. On Jun 15, 6:14 am, John Aydelotte j.m.aydelo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the King Kage Iris. I have them on almost all my bikes. They fit the Klean Kanteen bottles extremely well. I actually met the guy who makes them at the Rocky Mountain Bicycle Festival this past weekend. He made most of a cage in front of me in under a minute (not including the part that holds it onto the bike -- I think that's welded on). I am happy to support a local businessman (Durango, CO) who makes such a great product. On Jun 15, 5:05 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 21:59 -0700, cyclotourist wrote
Re: [RBW] Re: And Summer Begins.
That would be have been me, the past few summers, but ah, the budgets were cut this year. Either working or paying for and attending more training. This year's contract ended and that is that. At least I have a contract for next year. (No pay for the next few weeks.) On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: The teachers I know work second jobs in summer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Trangia cook kits
I have the same wide experience with liquid and compressed gas stoves as others, but I'd add a few caveats. Don't overfill the brass burner. Alcohol seems safer and nicer than white gas, but it is powerful. If you spill, it can still catch fire, and even explode, but it is harder to explode than gas. I once tipped over the set and sloshed some fuel on the windscreen while trying to fish the snuffing lid off when I dropped it and missed, and the spilled fuel melted the perforated bottom part of the windscreen, which I was able to replace with another. It could have been worse, much worse. If you are actually cooking sometimes instead of just boiling water, and appreciate peace and quiet, it doesn't get better. Trangia is my favorite when I can't set or don't want a wood fire. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: The fuel canisters are sometimes considered hazardous waste. The canisters are recyclable, though they must be prepared appropriately. Make sure the canister is truly empty by attaching it to the stove one more time and running it dry. Then, use the awl on a knife or a nail to puncture the top of the can. Lastly, flatten the can with a hammer. This prep makes it clear that there is no gas remaining in the canister and it can be legally recycled with other metals. The usual precautions apply- wear eye protection, don't stick yourself and be sure the can is empty. We recycle dozens of these canisters in our outdoor program every year without any issues. DC On Jun 13, 1:37 pm, dmolloy danielmarkmol...@googlemail.com wrote: I think that the spent canisters may be recyclable, but would imagine that most end up in landfills :( On Jun 13, 12:46 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Prior to the Trangia, I used a small Snow Peak canister stove, and always was worried that my half used canister might run out, so I Ha! That's exactly my situation. I love my Snow Peak stove but I always carry an extra canister for just that reason. In fact, last week my first cannister, which was partially used ran out. Good thing I brought the second one. I think I probably will invest in teh Trangia, seems a really worthwhile investment, especially if one wants to do some real cooking. I'll probably pick one up before the Aug tour. I know this is a dum question but I'll just put it out there... how do I dispose of the spent canister? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: And Summer Begins.
Count me in, as a teacher and as in need of cyclical recreation. Current summer project, Riv-related: Building an SRAM i-Motion-9 planetary gear wheel, using parts gifted by my pal Calvin, spokes cut by Domenic's Cyclery in Tempe, AZ, and a Salsa Cross rim purchased there for my Quickbeam. The time for riding here is year-round, but extra care is needed in the current climate regime... But I'm going on some road trips around the west this year after several years of nose to the grindstone work. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: Yeah, San Diego riding right now to start summer! Amazing. -Original Message- From: cyclotourist Sent: Jun 11, 2011 4:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: And Summer Begins. My last day was Friday, and it was a non-student day. Got home early and celebrated by playing with my bike! On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: Second grade teacher here. 7 more school days. Lots of townie rides lately, gearin up for some longer stretches this summer! On Jun 11, 1:25 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: For me6 more days2 of which are half-dayless than 30 hours of kid-time (not that I'm counting)...and the madness of teaching middle school is over for the year. Our weather is March-like but I'm still riding. On Jun 11, 8:24 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Manny. My wife is a teacher and off at the end of next week. The weather here in OR seems to be warming up with the sun and blue skies making appearances. We'll be heading out to Sisters, OR for a few days of lounging around, reading and hiking. I doubt I'll take a bike with me on this trip. I went for a sub 36hr overnight last week and had a blast. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626801282019/with. .. Hoping to get out next week for another s36o. Lots of overnight bike trips planned for July, short and long. Also planning a 10 day trip in Aug. This past trip was on my LHT and while I didn't have a big load it was so much better than on my Hilsen which I've been using for camping/touring the past 2yrs. The 48cm Noodles are fantastic, a great choice for camping/touring/country biking. I may have to get a set for the Hilsen. Now time to head off to work. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...
If you don't ever use the drops you are either going too slow, setting the bars too low, or don't need them. Ahem. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I took mine off a couple years ago because I found myself looking at it instead of where I was going along with having the mindset of trying to go faster..it just seemed pointless. Like you, I enjoy riding more because of it..to the original poster I can relate, I turn 53 in September and figure I'm on the downward curve so I'm enjoying everything I can now. On Jun 6, 9:41 pm, SISDDWG dgen...@gmail.com wrote: I've lost a lot of power and speed, and this year feel a drop in endurance, but as long as I don't look at a bike computer too much, my happiness per mile hasn't trailed off. Yep, I had a computer on all six of my bikes but when I reached 65 years of age all the computers were remove. I enjoy cycling as much as ever. On Jun 6, 4:37 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I took about a ten year break from cycling in my forties when life demanded I focus exclusively on other things. When I started back, I set two rules for myself which proved very useful. First I went on a (Atkins) diet and lost 40 lbs. Second, as I recommitted myself I decided to avoid riding so much on any day that I wouldn't want to ride again tomorrow. Both of those proved to be very useful decisions. About the same time I discovered Rivendell and I raised my bars. Setting them about 2 cm below my saddle provided great relieve to my back and especially my neck muscles. Drop bars provide the most variety for hand positions, which relieve stress on the wrist shoulders. I found putting them higher than the saddle prevented me from standing up, and Vt has lots of short steep rollers to get over, which are often easiest if you stand up and give some push. I'm in my mid-late 60's now and continue to ride with drop bars about 2 cm below the seat. I do some yoga after every ride now. I've lost a lot of power and speed, and this year feel a drop in endurance, but as long as I don't look at a bike computer too much, my happiness per mile hasn't trailed off. Drop bars also offer the least stress on the buns and maybe the feet too, which have been a problem for me. michael just back from a happy, hilly 20 mile ride. On Jun 6, 11:55 am, canali jwcoll...@hotmail.com wrote: just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into shape) OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff jones h loop bars or the north road bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: can anyone relate--getting older (50) and back into cycling: finding drops not so easy...
If drops aren't more comfortable than mountain bike bars, and they're at the same height as the saddle or above, you'll more comfortable as you limber up and lose the gut; well, that's my experience, not yours, so take it with some windage...but even when younger (now at 56), the paunch that appears when not riding will eventually shrink while riding, diet permitting. The North Road type, like the Albatross and Porteurs, the ends point back and are good for my wrists, but don't offer as many postions as a good drop bar. I think most riders on the new-fangled brake/shifters don't seem to use much more than a straight bar with the brifter, acting as bar ends. Ultimately, the wrists and the ulnar nerves tell me what a good bar is, especially when I can use a range of postitions: crouch to sprint, stand to power on, sit to spin or look around. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Damned iPhone. As I was saying, I look at that tight bend with long ramps -- 135 mm drop, 115 mm reach -- and they look so comfortable. The 185s are very nice but, if you have them set up with the statutory level ends, the ramps are very short and steep. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Jim -- I look at nice, tight, shallow bend on the PRallels On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Patrick, I think the Grand Bois Maes Parallel type bars look quite nice. Peter Weigle used them on his Black Tie bike that was featured in BQ. Here's a link to Weigle's Photostream of that bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/sets/72157625305683679/with/ 5209479494/ Still it begs the question, why would you want to replace the Nitto Mod. 185 bars on your Riv customs? I think the Mod 185 is one of the nicest bars I've used. Just thinking... Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 6, 6:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried these or the functional equivalents? http://www.compasscycle.com/images/MaesPara800.jpg (From Compass Bicycles:http://www.compasscycle.com/Handlebars.html) Copies of these, apparently: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/Hersefixed.jpg Me, Ahm 'a thinkin' that they may well do very nicely as replacements for the Nitto 185s on the 8 cm Nitto stems on my two low-bar Riv customs. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: 52 years young here, and for me drops are the only comfortable long- distance option. I do have and like the Noodles, but I find that the modern 'compact' or 'short-n-shallow' shaped bars have some advantages. The short drop makes the drop position easier to reach without the raising tops so high that standing to climb feels ungainly. The short reach seems to me more appropriate when using modern brake levers. Long reach bars were designed for non-aero brake levers. Modern brake levers (be they brifters or Tektro or SRAM aero levers) allow a hand position that's a couple of cm further forward than did non-aero or even early aero levers. The shorter reach of the compact bars compensates for that extra reach. I use a 3T Ergosum bar on my go-fast (with Campy brifters) and find its very comfortable whether on the hoods, the ramps, the hooks or the drops. Unfortunately it's only available in black and 31.8. Ritchie now makes a bar called the Classic Curve that looks similar, same drop, a bit less reach, still 31.8 but polished silver. It should look OK with a silver VO stem and a threadless adapter. I have another bike with a Salsa Woodchipper off-road drop bar. It's very short reach, very short drop, very wide and very flared in the drops. It looks a bit awkward and makes parking the bike harder, but once rolling I find it's pretty comfortable. the Noodles are on my Riv, but with a shorter stem than I used to ride. Even with the tops at saddle height the drops feel low and the hoods far away. I'm tempted to try the Classic Curve on that bike. I'm already using a threadless stem and adapter so the swap would be easy. And the threadless + adapter combo is actually lighter than the Technomic Deluxe it replaced. Bill I really recommend you try a compact or short-n-shallow bar before you write off drops. Grinding into a headwind on North Roads just isn't a lot of fun. On Jun 6, 8:55 am, canali jwcoll...@hotmail.com wrote: just wondering if it's just me and i need to take my time adding the mileage and being consistent and patient (and getting back into shape) OR do alot of us as we get older no longer find being so bent down as comfortable...thinking of swapping out drops on atlantis for jeff jones h loop bars or the north road bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
Chainline is not an issue, unless you are a mid-century Brit... I run stock chainrings, 32/40 and the 17/19 Dos. The limitation on the Quickbeam is my Berthoud fender stays, which, strictly speaking, is not a Quickbeam issue. They could be longer, to let me use the whole range. Low-profile fasteners and a flaring fenderline allow me to use all the combos, but I rarely do. I gut things out. Huh. No problem climbing South Mountain in Phoenix, but soon I will build a wheel and play with an SRAM 9-speed internal hub... summer fun... seriously, you feel drag on the chainline? What about my internal gear friction box? Please, get an ergometer or some sort of watt-o-matic meter, and quantify that drag! Chainline is an aesthetic issue, not a drag, son. Humph... (Please don't get mad, I'm just playin'...) On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the chainring). And the fixed setup is much more draggy than the 40x16 freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. Ron On May 8, 8:50 am, A D deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I don't have anywhere to be. I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my prototype appear long enough. There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though I have an Ebisu AR. On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I can get off the line faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's back to 40/16. Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I camp. Aloha, Bob Sent from my iPad On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of the QB dropout. It's about 2. So, whereas with the WI 'double/ double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.Dang. So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to look quaint.* -Matt *OK not really On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone run a White Industries Double/Double drivetrain setup on their Quickbeam? Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of either 38/35 or 34/31. They suggest the 38/35 for a 26 mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road riding bike. Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than 31/19 and 34/16... Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great idea? :) Best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
It's the pesky vehicular cycling meme. Bikes aren't toys they're vehicles!!! I am guilty. But, I am a lover of bicycles like most people are lovers of cars. They make me smile big, even those of the POS brand that have always been around, no matter where made or assembled... -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shamelessly bagmatching
You have coined the name for a great line of bags in the future, where we will all live: Lafamu! And, aye, she's lar, lar On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: They are matchless . . . -- Forrest On May 4, 4:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Lafuma!!! On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: But ... can *you* match these excessively cool bags? New old Lamafu bar bag on new new VO occasional slip-over-bar decaleur, conscientiously matching rear old Lamafu panniers. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fwd: RR43 Link Update
My inability to download it, etc. will motivate me to pay for a print copy! They deserve it, anyway. -- Forwarded message -- From: Rivendell Bicycle Works no-re...@rivbike.com Date: Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM Subject: RR43 Link Update To: Bill bill.bgib...@gmail.com Use this area to offer a short teaser of your email's content. Text here will show in the preview area of some email clients. Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browserhttp://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=8fe81e6890e=0f05e11dc2. [image: Rivendell Bicycle Works] http://www.rivbike.com Rivendell Reader 43 Some users couldn't open the Reader link, so here it is again. Sorry for the dupe email. -Dave http://shade.keeptrees.com/publications/g30/TheRivendellReader/#page0 follow on Twitter http://Twitter+Account+not+yet+Authorized | friend on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11610434638 | forward to a friendhttp://us1.forward-to-friend1.com/forward?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=8fe81e6890e=0f05e11dc2 *Copyright © 2011 Rivendell Bicycle Works, All rights reserved.* You got this email cuz you are a paid-up current Rivendell member. *Our mailing address is:* Rivendell Bicycle Works 2040 N. Main St. #19 Walnut Creek, CA 94596 Add us to your address bookhttp://rivbike.us1.list-manage.com/vcard?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=30b0d33e2f unsubscribe from this listhttp://rivbike.us1.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=30b0d33e2fe=0f05e11dc2c=8fe81e6890| update subscription preferenceshttp://rivbike.us1.list-manage.com/profile?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=30b0d33e2fe=0f05e11dc2| view email in browserhttp://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2090e897f8c7f8d7170a52bbdid=8fe81e6890e=0f05e11dc2 -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Riv supplement
WOW. Now I know why you were selling bikes! On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:40 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick: I don't know why the rack was so built; I can trace the bike back to at least two previous owners and doubtless there were many others. At any rate, it works for me, as you can see with the hacked Karrimore or whatever bar bag that I rigged to fit: the higher platform nicely supports the bottom of this bag that was not at all designed to be used with a front rack. 1958 Herse tourer built with an eclectic mix of parts, mostly but hardly all French, and sized a Grant-satisfying 60 cm with a me-satisfying 57 cm tt. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2:41 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: that's a fancy dog-carrier. what's the story with upper deck on the front rack? a solution to properly fit a handlebar bag to the bars/ stem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Riv supplement
Straddle-wire height, pads, cable housing (modern housing has less compression). On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:02 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Now: please give me advice how to get more hoods braking power from the Mafac levers and the Mafac cantis? Sheldon Brown's web site has a page on setting up cantis. That might be helpful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Berthoud saddle twising on seat post... what is going on?
Confounded variables. Too many. But, you are on the right track. Isolate them. Control them. There are professionals who can measure your leg lengths and find a difference, but something is up. Is it the saddle? Loose bolts? Pedaling? The skeleton? Muscle strength? Pain is your guide, unfortunately. The pedal connection issue is another factor, for hips as well as knees as well as...it's a system. Seek balance. Check your mileage changes, effort changes , general health (age?), too. Molestem senectutem. Unless it's painful because of the saddle, it could easily be from another cause; changes in shape are breaking in, are the virtue of leather. No one is symmetrical, but overuse is a cause of pain, and position can trigger overuse, as can being restricted in movement. Wiggle and stand lots. Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
