[RBW] Another Riv in Dallas!

[Fred Craven]

Paul, I've only once ever seen another Riv in Dallas, but now that I know 
you are here, maybe we will cross paths someday.  During the week, I can be 
found commuting from about downtown to and back Addison via White Rock, and 
on the weekend I'm down in Cedar Hill. But right now, my bike is awaiting a 
new bottom bracket cup...such little things.

Fred, 
Duncanville, TX.


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[RBW] Re: "Winter" clothing help

[Fred Craven]

Update: Great help. I've been swamped at work so I haven't been able to 
reply to the thread yet.

So far I have been reminded that Layering is key (I knew that) and y'all 
have given me several options in the wool/"not wool" realm. This is really 
helpful, actually. I hope to buy some stuff as soon as I can. The ability 
to wash something easily is helpful, but so is not stinking.

WIND, yes, that is my key enemy, I think, cold wind. Sure, I'll make a goal 
of it to go out in snowy conditions, but we rarely get that around here. 
It's the cold dry stuff with the cutting wind that I need to consider.

More comments to come later.

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[RBW] "Winter" clothing help

[Fred Craven]

It's fast approaching winter I would like to keep riding to work. My 
problem is that I don't have any appropriate winter cycling clothing. 30 
years ago, I had some wool tights and jerseys, with layers that worked just 
fine.

I can go "all cyclist" and get fancy winter cycling clothes on line or at a 
LBS (We have several good LBS' in our area); however, I would like to keep 
to the spirit of a stealth "Rivendell" look if at all possible. Currently I 
layer up with various regular daily clothing. I don't have proper face 
protection, and I don't have proper gloves...I don't have proper anything, 
really. The wind simply cuts through.

I'm in the Dallas area, so we really haven't had much cold yet, but I would 
like to be able to ride comfortably in the 40s. I know that many of you do 
that. I'm open for suggestions. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[Fred Craven]

In today's lightweight-breakable-plastic world it's easy for people to 
forget how light steel can be. Sure, Rivendell bicycles often weigh more, 
but they are built to last, and have more stuff attached to them. Back in 
the day...(OK, circa 1986) 20 pound steel bikes were available, and 22 
pound bikes were readily available, *and* weights always *included* pedals 
and seats.

When my custom arrived from Joel (I bought it used from him) I weighed it 
without any of it's livery, just the bike with everything needed for 
riding...22 lbs for a 56cm. Once loaded and with some heavier tires it's a 
bit more, that's true.

My question is, "How much would all these other bike weigh with racks, 
water bottles, a pump, tools, a bag or two, a change of cloths?"

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[Fred Craven]

WOW that looks familiar, That wouldn't happen to be that which they call 
"Joel Green," would it?

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[RBW] Re: i need a new helmet

[Fred Craven]

The new Brooks is a little pricy but the Harrier that I bought looks good 
and fits really well. I don't like the flat black (the only color they 
offered with the early release), other than that it's great. They also make 
a "commuter" model, the Island, which also looks great. Hidden under their 
Brooks badging they are made by Kask.

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 Quickbeam

[Fred Craven]

Don't be too hasty to sell. The Riv I bought from someone on this list had 
been available for a long while. Sometimes these things don't sell that 
quickly. If I wasn't in the process of remodeling our kitchen, I would be 
very tempted. but...kitchen.

It's even my size.

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[RBW] Re: BLUG reveal of an incredible custom

[Fred Craven]

Wait, WHAT? internal brake cable routing?

She is a beauty.

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[RBW] Re: Clicking From Crank Area

[Fred Craven]

This is a vital and important question. 
Its timeliness is timeless. 

Shoelaces got me on several occasions. 
Then, the need for a new chain, 
Then I had an issue with a freewheel (thus hiding the tick). 

I will now check the pedals and follow the above instructions.
Thank you all for your input!

Fred
(who is currently not riding because opera season is taking all his extra 
time)

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Rivendell Glorius mixte

[Fred Craven]

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 7:43:48 AM UTC-5, Kevin Brown wrote:
>
> I have a sale pending.
>

Not that I need one, but...darn. These are such beautiful bikes. Well worth 
it! 

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Re: [RBW] RBW / BQ inspired steel lugged custom

[Fred Craven]

What a great narrative! Also mildly inspirational--That whole loosing weight 
thing was wonderfully wrapped in all the shop-talking. Not everyone can write 
in such detail without loosing focus. That's the kind of post that can help 
others figure out what the bike search process is like. Thanks!

Oh, and that's a fantastic bike. Cogratulations!

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[RBW] Re: 56cm or 58cm Atlantis

[Fred Craven]

Just to throw something into the mix. That issue about being stretched out 
is all too complicated to me. I should ride a 58 by Rivendell standards, 
but my Arms–my arms. They are just a wee too short. This slight variation 
in body proportion has made my life subtly out of proportion. Suit coats 
and shirts are always too long, the steering wheel is alway too far away, 
and so are handlebars. So...

I was delighted to buy a used custom Rivendell from Joel Stern (as seen 
here on this forum) with a "Short" top tube. Turned out to work great for 
me. Like you, I have a long torso, but my arms... IF I could lean over into 
a more aero position (like when I was 18) then it wouldn't be a problem. In 
fact I think my long torso just makes it worse because my arms have to 
start higher.

Anyway, best of luck in your decision. 

Oh, I'm 5' 10" with an 84 PBH, and a 32" sleeve length.

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[RBW] Note to self, cold weather and pedal installation.

[Fred Craven]

Last night, well yesterday, two things arrived. My new VP-001 Pedals and My 
RR44. Yay!

The Reader is fun, it's nice to have a throwback to the days of newsletters 
that are printed.

Now to the pedals. I purchased them because I need some more support for my 
foot. The historically wonderful, and most awesome, Campy Record pedals are 
awesomely awesome, but there isn't much support for my non-cleated feet. To 
make matters more interesting/challenging I have short wide feet that angle 
out--they always have. Yep, I have duck feet. Small duck feet, but duck 
feet just the same. So, I got the VP-001 in hopes that they would do me 
well.

Of course I was excited to install them, but they simply didn't want to go 
in. I got them in the threads, but wow were they tight. 
.
.
It was only later that realized that SCIENCE RULES. 
The bike was in the cold garage, and 
the pedals were in the warm house. 
When I went to install them

I'm looking forward to giving them an actual ride.

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[RBW] Custom Paint: Army Green or Tuxedo Black?

[Fred Craven]

Ok, I'll play. 

There are lots of beautiful black bikes, a lot of beautiful black Rivendells. 
So, I say go green. You can worry about what shade and hue. Definitely cream on 
the head tube because it's a Rivendell and it looks sublime. 

As mentioned above, go for black components. I typically don't think of that 
for Rivs but in this case it meets you description. Now, that tends to move me 
more to a mid-toned olive so you can have more contrast. 

For fun, I really like the idea of a couple bright red "things" because red and 
green are complementary after all. 

Gloss, keep it gloss. 

If you really want it to look good (and don't mind a surprise) leave it in 
Grant and or Joe to decide. Kind of like going into a restraunt and saying 
"chef's choice". Unless you are really good with colors, you can often get a 
better result by letting the so called "experts" tweak your final color.  So, 
"some dark green khaki" might be a good description.  My front door is a Dutch 
green which one might call "Green that's so dark it almost looks black until 
the light hits it just right." 

Best of luck, it will be intriguing to see the final result. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: White Industries, Velocity 700C Wheelset

[Fred Craven]

Be of good cheer. Although I don't need a wheelset at this time, I will need 
another wheelset at some point--oh, and with 130 spacing. So It sounds like a 
good deal to me, and I'm sure there are others thinking the same thing. 

--Fred 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom, MB-1, and Co-Motion For Sale

[Fred Craven]

What a beautiful Rivendell. If I didn't already have one, I would jump on 
that.

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[RBW] Re: Groceries and baskets

[Fred Craven]

OK, so far I'm getting the idea that a rear rack/basket/pannier is better 
than front for carrying a few groceries, especially given the fact that my 
bike has more of a road-ish geometry. And that the front basket may do just 
as fine as long as I don't load it up too much. All of the comments are 
quite helpful. Thanks.

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[RBW] Groceries and baskets

[Fred Craven]

Front or rear?

Now that I'm able to ride a reasonably short distance without cardiac arrest, I 
desire to go to our local grocery store and pick up a few items for dinner (and 
you can be sure that I will get wine cheese and baguettes at least once). 

To facilitate this chore I will need "on bike" storage: most likely a basket. 
But where to put it, front or rear? My Rivendell Road Bike is of the generation 
where extra braze-ons were not standard fare. But that's not a problem. I think 
a front basket looks awesome, but rear storage might be more stable. As I'm 
utterly ignorant on the ramifications of this choice so I welcome your 
opinions. 

The geometry is Riv-road, with a delightfully short top tube (thanks to Joel). 
I'm not sure if that affects things, but that's the situation. 

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[RBW] When Hillborne met Atlantis...a coffee story.

[Fred Craven]

Chris, we shall get together, our Rivs will be happy and we can even play, 
"I'll let you ride mine, if you let me ride yours" (it helps we ride the same 
size). But it won't be, at least, until I'm done with Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. 

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[RBW] non-destructive complete removal of tag in MUSA moleskin shirt - anyone know how?

[Fred Craven]

Clothing tags can almost always be removed by closely cutting next to the 
fabric (the main material). Use small scissors. 

The tag will then Frey away comfortably. I happen to hate all tags on all of my 
clothes so they all come off.

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Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

[Fred Craven]

Anne, I suffered a mild shock the first time I walked into RBM because it's 
huge. One thing to note about Oak Cliff Bicycles is that they are small. 
"Micro" compared to RBM.  If one is used to that RBM's hugeness, and then goes 
into a normal bike shop, that too might cause some shock. In other words, their 
stock of brands and sizes is reduced. 

Also, parking...expect to have to hunt. 
Valet is usually available.
I'm just saying. 

Finally, once you (she) gets there, some of the best pizza in Texas is right 
across the street.
I'm just saying.  

Ok make it easy, park some distance away and ride in. 

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[RBW] Re: Test ride Sam in Dallas?

[Fred Craven]

My observation of what they had at RBM was "not so much"–Well, you did say 
*faster*–they have lots of *faster*, but the day I went in, they didn't 
have anything that was *touring, *or the slightest bit Rivendellish. Oak 
Cliff Bicycle Company (in the middle of the Bishop Arts district) is Riv 
Friendly, and they carry a lot of Linus.

When I asked where to go. I was told: Oak Cliff Bicycle Company 
, Transit Bicycle Company 
, and Trinity in Fort Worth 
. I haven't been to Transit or Trinity yet.

25!!! wow, what are they racing on these days?

On Friday, September 11, 2015 at 1:08:37 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I have an online friend who is currently riding an upright bike (some 
> Trek model, I don't know), riding 5 times a week, and wants to upgrade 
> to a faster bike. She's willing to spend a good chunk of money, $2000 
> or so. I'm figuring a Sam might be a good choice (you can get a built 
> up Sam for $2K, right?). Anyone have a  smaller sized Sam in the 
> Dallas area that they're willing to offer up for a test ride? 
>
> As with most people we advise, she probably won't end up with a 
> Rivendell bike even though she'd be better off with one. But at least 
> I gave her the heads-up to make sure the bike she picks allows decent 
> width tires. So that's something. I was looking at bikes sold by 
> Richardson Bike Mart, which seems to be a good Dallas shop. There's 
> this Trek 7.7 FX, that's supposedly a hybrid bike that "rockets along 
> roads, cruises along bike paths, and even hits dirt roads." The thing 
> is shod with 25mm tires! Why? 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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[RBW] Fenders: Cream or Silver?

[Fred Craven]

I put wider tires on my Rivendell and the existing fenders are, now, too 
narrow. So, I'm getting wider ones.

Silver is an old standby (very nice; classic) But I also like the idea of 
cream fenders.
Does the Cream match, or mostly match, the Riv Headtube Cream?

Since Rivendell sells the cream, I assume that it looks fine, but I 
appreciate your input.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders: Cream or Silver?

[Fred Craven]

And the winner is: Silver. 

After consulting with my Local Bike Shop, I agreed that since the handlebar 
tape will be pink and orange, that that is enough eccentricity for a Rivendell. 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders: Cream or Silver?

[Fred Craven]

 The headtube doesn't look cream in those photos.  It looks closer to 
 white, like the Atlantis headtube.  

 Of course, it could just be the lighting.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iUkfOydDxuA/VdY71eEg1kI/ANA/EKuQEEN3BGc/s1600/Basic%2BBike.jpg
Well, actually it is a rather light cream. Next to the green, it kind of 
looks white. Here's what she looks like the garage. (the pretty blue spill 
is not toxic)

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[RBW] Re: Fenders: Cream or Silver?

[Fred Craven]

 What did you end up buying by the way?


I bought Joel Stern's 56cm short top tubed Joel Green Custom Road. as 
seen on my blog http://fredcraven.com/2015/08/02/it-begins/. Photos to 
come. 

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Re: [RBW] Let the Little Children Come Unto Me

[Fred Craven]

Great point Steve. As it is, I was able to get the parts in position, 
but...I forgot about grease, so yeah.

Also I didn't want to attempt to install my breaks while I was 
tired/excited. Had I done that I probably would have cut some cable too 
short. So, today I will get grease, re-thread everything and work on the 
brakes.

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[RBW] Re: Liquid Proofide?

[Fred Craven]

Follow up.

Thanks for all the input, it was/is very helpful. Yes, the refrigerator 
seemed to do the trick. I guess it's just that cold in England.

I shared the information with Rivendell, and they are taking care of me. 
They had never heard of the proofide arriving in as a liquid. The issue 
here was/is ultimately the surprise at the liquid nature. It simply never 
got to any form of solid until the refrigerator, and the spilling/leaking 
in the box was a little annoying. But all is good. My bike is arriving 
tonight, not tomorrow. And I'm like a little boy waiting for a giant scoop 
of ice-cream.

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[RBW] Let the Little Children Come Unto Me

[Fred Craven]

I am a 10-year-old boy on Christmas morning. The bike didn't arrive until 9 PM. 
But she arrived. Beautiful, green, shining, and wrapped in swimming pool 
noodles. 

Of course this means becoming preoccupied with getting her assembled. It also 
means: having the realization that I need to be at work tomorrow an hour and a 
half earlier than normal to take care of a project for a very sensitive client. 
Sometimes being an adult sucks--but I have a bike! 

I have received nothing but great service and cordiality from: Joel Stern, 
Harris Cyclery, and Rivendell, the guy I bought the Paul comp breaks from on 
eBay, and my more-than-patient non-cyclist wife. 

Pictures will come later until then suffice it to say that I am a giggly little 
boy. 

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[RBW] Liquid Proofide?

[Fred Craven]

My new Brooks saddle arrived last week. Yesterday, I finally had the chance to 
unboxed it. It's beautiful...and the Proofide is liquid. Some of it spilled in 
the box. I'm guessing that it reached some extreme temperature on it's a 
journey to Texas on the UPS truck that it doesn't want to go back to a solid 
form on its own.

Has anyone else dealt with this? 
Anyone know how to reconstitute the Proofide?

Fred

And the rest of the bike arrives Wednesday. 

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[RBW] Homer in green?!

[Fred Craven]

Hmm, could that be Joel Green? I'll know soon, when my Joel Green Riv arrives 
from Massachusetts. 

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[RBW] Re: DFW shops

[Fred Craven]

Thanks John.
Between the time I sent the question and it being posted (I'm still under 
probation as newbi, and that's OK) I stopped by Oak Cliff and discovered 
that they will probably be my go-to place.

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[RBW] Re: Ballad of the short arms

[Fred Craven]

As an update, we are moving forward with the purchase, I will soon be a new 
(used) bike owner. 

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[RBW] DFW shops

[Fred Craven]

Now that I'm about to become a Rivendell owner I have the dilemma of where to 
get bike stuff locally. Do any of you know of a Rivendell friendly bike shop in 
the Dallas area? 

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[RBW] Re: Ballad of the short arms

[Fred Craven]

Handelbar plan: Noodle, because I like them, I know how to ride them.
Setup of said bars: Normally with Shimano Tiagra road brakes, and maybe 
Tektro interrupters (always wanted something like that).
Saddle height: I don't know, I didn't even know there was a high low 
option. Not very high. Comfortable enough for a moderate cadence.
Current Bike: Dead, buried, stollen, well remembered.

*My* last bike was the antithesis of Rivendell (except that it was steel), 
it was the forerunner of what time trial bikes are today. I used the bike 
long after I was young and eager to go fast, but it was always TO 
Stiff, and the handle bars were always way too low: early cow horns. It 
stretched me out something fierce. Other bikes that I have ridden were more 
comfortable, and larger, but I was still stretched out. My arms are 
literally two inches shorter than they should be. Even baby strollers are 
*just* out of my reach; most chair arms are too low to support my elbows 
(unless I slouch a lot); and if I sit my with my butt flat on the floor and 
my back straight, my knuckles don't touch the ground. That old custom bike 
was designed well for what it was but the builder was new…

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[RBW] Ballad of the short arms

[Fred Craven]

My first post, yay!

I am currently considering the purchase of a used bike from another forum 
member. His bike has a unique feature in that the top tube is short. 56cm dt 
and tt. My body has a unique, and sometimes annoying, feature and that I have 
tyrannosaurus Rex arms. – – about 2 inches shorter then all of my shirts and 
all steering wheel columns.

 Historically I rode a 56 cm frame. 54 was too small 58 too big. However, 
Rivendell sizes frames  more generously. This means that a 56 cm frame may 
actually be too small but then there's the thing with the short top tube in 
my short arms. 

The seller and I have about the same PBH mine's 83+ he's 83-, our arms are the 
same length: around 32(sleeve length). But I'm 4 taller--mostly in the torso. 
(5'6 vs 5'10). 

So, what do you think? Is this a sure you will be fine or no, it won't work 
situation? 

When I was younger and more limberer I was always way too stretched out, but 
I could do it (My custom frame builder thought it was a good thing at the 
time). That's never going to happen again.

Of course a shorter stem is in the works as well. I have read all the 
literature on the website and I've seen all the measures. If I was ordering a 
new bike I might-could go with the 58 cm frame instead. But I'm looking for 
input in the context of a used bike that is lovely, less expensive, needs to be 
ridden and may fit my silly arms.

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