[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

Also, now willing to explore shipping with compensation for packing 
materials and labor.

Let's chat!




On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:32:03 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Fielded some interest at the $3,000 number, yet still no takers so let's 
> try for a bump.
>
> Another trip to LA planned for Sunday-Monday if someone in SoCal wants to 
> step up.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 10:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Okay, lets try $3,000!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:21:05 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Bill!
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems available today, or 
>>> any day for that matter, glad to hear you enjoy yours so much.
>>>
>>> I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the weekend, but that 
>>> ship has sailed. Still available for delivery to the Bay Area!
>>>
>>> Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this is a smokin' deal 
>>> compared to what it would cost to build one up.
>>>
>>> -Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike as it hangs from 
>>> the rafters, in Central CA.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill Rhea wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I 
>>>> have an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell it 
>>>> because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an Ibis 
>>>> Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.
>>>>
>>>> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the trigger 
>>>> on this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> -br
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time 
>>>>>> for summer :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *BUMP*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *$3,500*
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
>>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm 
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>&g

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

Fielded some interest at the $3,000 number, yet still no takers so let's 
try for a bump.

Another trip to LA planned for Sunday-Monday if someone in SoCal wants to 
step up.

Thanks :)

On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 10:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Okay, lets try $3,000!
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:21:05 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bill!
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems available today, or 
>> any day for that matter, glad to hear you enjoy yours so much.
>>
>> I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the weekend, but that 
>> ship has sailed. Still available for delivery to the Bay Area!
>>
>> Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this is a smokin' deal 
>> compared to what it would cost to build one up.
>>
>> -Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike as it hangs from 
>> the rafters, in Central CA.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill Rhea wrote:
>>
>>> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I 
>>> have an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell it 
>>> because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an Ibis 
>>> Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.
>>>
>>> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the trigger 
>>> on this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -br
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time 
>>>>> for summer :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *BUMP*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *$3,500*
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm 
>>>>>>>>>>> getting it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
>>>>>>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
>>>>>>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
>>>>>>>>>>> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm 
>>>>>>>>>>> home!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

Okay, lets try $3,000!

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:21:05 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Thanks, Bill!
>
> As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems available today, or any 
> day for that matter, glad to hear you enjoy yours so much.
>
> I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the weekend, but that 
> ship has sailed. Still available for delivery to the Bay Area!
>
> Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this is a smokin' deal 
> compared to what it would cost to build one up.
>
> -Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike as it hangs from the 
> rafters, in Central CA.
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill Rhea wrote:
>
>> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I have 
>> an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell it 
>> because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an Ibis 
>> Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.
>>
>> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the trigger 
>> on this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -br
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>>
>>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>>>
>>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time for 
>>>> summer :)
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *BUMP*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *$3,500*
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
>>>>>>>>>> upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm 
>>>>>>>>>> getting it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
>>>>>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
>>>>>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
>>>>>>>>>> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm 
>>>>>>>>>> home!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

Thanks, Bill!

As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems available today, or any 
day for that matter, glad to hear you enjoy yours so much.

I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the weekend, but that 
ship has sailed. Still available for delivery to the Bay Area!

Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this is a smokin' deal 
compared to what it would cost to build one up.

-Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike as it hangs from the 
rafters, in Central CA.

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill Rhea wrote:

> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I have 
> an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell it 
> because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an Ibis 
> Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.
>
> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the trigger on 
> this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>
>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>>
>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time for 
>>> summer :)
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *BUMP*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *$3,500*
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
>>>>>>>>> upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm 
>>>>>>>>> getting it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
>>>>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
>>>>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
>>>>>>>>> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm 
>>>>>>>>> home!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>
> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>
> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time for 
> summer :)
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>
>>> *BUMP*
>>>
>>>
>>> *$3,500*
>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending upcoming 
>>>>>>> move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm getting 
>>>>>>> it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
>>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
>>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
>>>>>>> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm home!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: boscomoose - pictures, experiences, comparisons?

[Jared Wilson]

Paul,

The Cheviot on the Riv site was I believe Casey's bike, feature what are 
known as the "wrong angle" boscomoose bars. 

Somehow a small batch was done with more tilt than Riv had requested, 
resulting in a better product for some people.

My wife has a pair of "normal" boscomoose on her Platypus and loves them, I 
actually bought them for myself but didn't like the "flatness" of them, I 
prefer more angle.

At the Riv garage sale earlier this year I picked up another pair because I 
do love the stiff quality they offer, but yet again I didn't jive with the 
fixed angle and moved them along to another group member.

I'll try and dig up a couple photos this evening.

Best,

jared

On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 9:43:17 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson wrote:

> thanks to all for taking the time to respond.
>
> keith--tosco certainly looks nice but i'm really looking for 
> moosebars--maybe choco, but probably bosco.  i'm surprised to see yours 
> sloping down as much as they do.  the angle looks like the cheviot picture 
> on the riv site, and (to my eye) a lot steeper downward than the photos on 
> bluelug.  but gee gah maybe it's all an optical illusion, or a result of 
> headtube angle?!
>
> jay--sitting "more upright than i wanted" is...exactly what i want!
>
> eric--bluelug 
> 
>  
> is a treasure trove of photos--totally forgot to look there first.
>
> time to start saving my allowance!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[Jared Wilson]

New price, *$3200 OBO.*

Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.

Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time for 
summer :)

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>
>> *BUMP*
>>
>>
>> *$3,500*
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>
>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>
>>>
>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending upcoming 
>>>>>> move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm getting 
>>>>>> it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
>>>>>> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm home!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Tom,

Thanks for the love! So glad to hear you're also aboard a 60cm mermaid, 
dreamy aren't they? 

I was able to squeeze what I believe are the VO 63mm fluted fenders over 
the 2.1's on my wife's Platypus with just a hair of room, so I'd think the 
50mm GravelKing's would fit nicely under the same fenders (only 2mm larger 
than Riv recommends, which is generally on the conservative side).

Gearing is 44/36/22 right now with a 24 granny gear en route, it was the 
only ring I didn't replace when setting things up and it's giving me 
trouble so I'll be swapping it out later this week. 17t Wolf Tooth aluminum 
cog with GearClamp single speed conversion and a Paul Melvin round out the 
rest of the drivetrain.

I was 1x9 for almost all my other Rivendells and I'm thrilled with this set 
up, it's like a more refined version of my old SimpleOne.

I'm not sure I'd take it all the way with going fixed on a Platypus, but 
the 3x1 seems to be a winner for my application.

Keep us posted with what you decide to do!

Jared

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 9:38:31 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi Jared,
> Love your Platypus. I have a mermaid 60cm that I am smitten with. How much 
> room for fenders over the 50cm gravel kings? What is your gearing on the 
> 3x1 setup? I am running 1x10 now, but I ride a lot of single speed and some 
> fixed gear on other bikes. The way mine rides, it seems to beg for a fixed 
> gear setup. It will be effort and expense with the vertical dropouts to go 
> fixed. I may just do a 3x1 like yours for now and see if that will satisfy. 
> Tom Palmer,
> With our first snow in 2023 in Twin Lake, MI
> and already considering a second Platypus
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:55:01 PM UTC-5 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Through various dealings the last year I worked my way down to only a 
>> Susie, trying to convince myself that I wasn't overbiking, but I was. I 
>> didn't need the tall BB or the clearance for 2.8's for the type of riding I 
>> generally do, and for the amount of time I spend on trails it was hard to 
>> justify having so much bike.
>>
>> Some of you may remember a WTT posting from the end of '22, I was looking 
>> to trade for a 60cm Platypus to fill in the gap that was left when I gave 
>> my wife my old 60cm and we sold her 55cm. Shortly after posting I was 
>> approached by Mack with the Canadian Caveat, but we were determined to make 
>> it worthwhile for both parties. After Mack crunched some numbers and we 
>> wheeled and dealed a bit we came to an agreement and would soon have new 
>> steeds!
>>
>> I received my new to me Platypus on Thursday of last week and wasted no 
>> time getting it set up. Mack had a killer 3x1 drivetrain and I knew I'd 
>> like to try the same, so I acquired some parts and pieced it together. I'm 
>> still dialing in this set up but so far it's showing a lot of promise and I 
>> couldn't be more grateful for Mack's advice along the way.
>>
>> So here it is, as of the ride I just got back from, and I'm so happy to 
>> be back on a Platypus.
>>
>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Jared Wilson]

Thanks everyone for chiming in, much appreciated!

Mack, can't wait to see your spin on the Susie. I'm not sure how much long 
the Kristofferson sticker will last, but I'm giving it my best!

Kim, these tires are 700x50. My wife has 2.1's on her Platypus right now 
with sufficient clearance, and I believe they're rated to clear 2.2's or 
48's with fenders.

FWIW I'm a huge fan of these GravelKing SK tires, they're an amazing value 
as far as things go these days.

Hope that helps :)

Jared

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:42:46 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jared,
>
> What size Panaracer Gravel Kings are you running on your Platypus ?  What 
> is the maximum tire size you can run ?  Asking for a friend, who owns a 
> Platypus. 
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:22:35 PM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I loved this bike, and loved it 3x1 most of all. So glad that Jared is 
>> keeping the 3x1 Platy alive (along with many of its stickers, which is no 
>> small thing on account of the strange bunch I had on there). Such a great 
>> build!
>>
>> The northbound Susie will get here early next week. I'll get it built up 
>> within a week or so, hopefully, and then I'll try to remember to hijack 
>> this Platy thread with a Susie build photo. I'm hoping to wind up with 
>> something like a fatter tire, higher bb version of the Platy. In any case, 
>> both of the bikes that come out of this trade will be 3x1 :) 
>>
>> Mack
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:38:45 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Nice! That Platy looks ready for anything. I love the versatility of 
>>> this bike.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:02:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a fine bicycle, Jared! I did a 3x1 a few years ago and loved it, 
>>>> it taught me that I often downshift a rear cassette unnecessarily. 3 gears 
>>>> is enough! 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Through various dealings the last year I worked my way down to only a 
>>>>> Susie, trying to convince myself that I wasn't overbiking, but I was. I 
>>>>> didn't need the tall BB or the clearance for 2.8's for the type of riding 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> generally do, and for the amount of time I spend on trails it was hard to 
>>>>> justify having so much bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of you may remember a WTT posting from the end of '22, I was 
>>>>> looking to trade for a 60cm Platypus to fill in the gap that was left 
>>>>> when 
>>>>> I gave my wife my old 60cm and we sold her 55cm. Shortly after posting I 
>>>>> was approached by Mack with the Canadian Caveat, but we were determined 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> make it worthwhile for both parties. After Mack crunched some numbers and 
>>>>> we wheeled and dealed a bit we came to an agreement and would soon have 
>>>>> new 
>>>>> steeds!
>>>>>
>>>>> I received my new to me Platypus on Thursday of last week and wasted 
>>>>> no time getting it set up. Mack had a killer 3x1 drivetrain and I knew 
>>>>> I'd 
>>>>> like to try the same, so I acquired some parts and pieced it together. 
>>>>> I'm 
>>>>> still dialing in this set up but so far it's showing a lot of promise and 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> couldn't be more grateful for Mack's advice along the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here it is, as of the ride I just got back from, and I'm so happy 
>>>>> to be back on a Platypus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Jared Wilson]

PHOTO 


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[RBW] Back On A Platypus

[Jared Wilson]

Through various dealings the last year I worked my way down to only a 
Susie, trying to convince myself that I wasn't overbiking, but I was. I 
didn't need the tall BB or the clearance for 2.8's for the type of riding I 
generally do, and for the amount of time I spend on trails it was hard to 
justify having so much bike.

Some of you may remember a WTT posting from the end of '22, I was looking 
to trade for a 60cm Platypus to fill in the gap that was left when I gave 
my wife my old 60cm and we sold her 55cm. Shortly after posting I was 
approached by Mack with the Canadian Caveat, but we were determined to make 
it worthwhile for both parties. After Mack crunched some numbers and we 
wheeled and dealed a bit we came to an agreement and would soon have new 
steeds!

I received my new to me Platypus on Thursday of last week and wasted no 
time getting it set up. Mack had a killer 3x1 drivetrain and I knew I'd 
like to try the same, so I acquired some parts and pieced it together. I'm 
still dialing in this set up but so far it's showing a lot of promise and I 
couldn't be more grateful for Mack's advice along the way.

So here it is, as of the ride I just got back from, and I'm so happy to be 
back on a Platypus.

Jared in SLO, CA

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Nitto, Rene Herse, Shimano XT, Clipper Crankset, etc

[Jared Wilson]

All sold or pending, thanks for your interest!

Jared

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:38:00 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> *Remaining:*
>
> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
> *$110*
>
> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
> V's more - *$30*
>
> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:18:15 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> *Remaining items below:*
>>
>> Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*
>>
>> Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*
>>
>> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end 
>> - *$110*
>>
>> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
>> V's more - *$30*
>>
>> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 1:21:14 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Group,
>>>
>>> Winter garage cleaning, let's find some new homes for this stuff.
>>>
>>> Shipping not included in listed price.
>>>
>>> Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*
>>>
>>> Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*
>>>
>>> VP-001 pedals, black - *$35*
>>>
>>> Shimano Deore XT M735 rear derailleur - *$20*
>>>
>>> Nitto/Sycip JJJ handlebar, 31.8, 660mm - *$55*
>>>
>>> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end 
>>> - *$110*
>>>
>>> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires, standard casing, 700x44. Couldn't get 
>>> these to seal tubeless on Cliffhangers, lots of life left. - *$85*
>>>
>>> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
>>> V's more - *$30*
>>>
>>> PHOTOS 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1n5M3EeMw3zdgGZ9xk3psVLtCNF7d9YKI?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>> Please respond off list, thanks for looking!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Suntour seat post clamp

[Jared Wilson]

I'm glad to hear!

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:08:16 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sorry, Jared, it has been claimed.
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 1:56 PM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I'll take you up on that if Eric isn't interested.
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 11:21:17 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a Campagnolo QR seat clamp that is far better than any Japanese 
>>> one that you can have for postage if you want it. Someone gave it to me 
>>> some years ago to use as a stronger handlebar clamp for my Dahon which has 
>>> long since been sold, and it has been part of my workbench clutter for 
>>> several years now.
>>>
>>> Patrick "Brev. Camp." Moore
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:43 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cross-posted to iBob but still no luck so reaching out here. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm searching for a Suntour seat post binder clamp like the one shown 
>>>> below. If you have one for sale please let me know your price shipped to 
>>>> me 
>>>> in 22401. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! 
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-12 at 9.33.32 PM.png]
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Suntour seat post clamp

[Jared Wilson]

Patrick,

I'll take you up on that if Eric isn't interested.

-Jared

On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 11:21:17 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've got a Campagnolo QR seat clamp that is far better than any Japanese 
> one that you can have for postage if you want it. Someone gave it to me 
> some years ago to use as a stronger handlebar clamp for my Dahon which has 
> long since been sold, and it has been part of my workbench clutter for 
> several years now.
>
> Patrick "Brev. Camp." Moore
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:43 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Cross-posted to iBob but still no luck so reaching out here. 
>>
>> I'm searching for a Suntour seat post binder clamp like the one shown 
>> below. If you have one for sale please let me know your price shipped to me 
>> in 22401. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-12 at 9.33.32 PM.png]
>>
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[RBW] WTB: 36t 94bcd chainring

[Jared Wilson]

Looking for a good condition or new 36t 5 bolt 94bcd chainring, would take 
a 42t as well if you have one!

Please respond off list if you have something that will work. 

Thanks :)

Jared

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Nitto, Rene Herse, Shimano XT, Clipper Crankset, etc

[Jared Wilson]

*Remaining:*

Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
*$110*

Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure V's 
more - *$30*

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:18:15 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> *Remaining items below:*
>
> Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*
>
> Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*
>
> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
> *$110*
>
> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
> V's more - *$30*
>
> On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 1:21:14 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Hey Group,
>>
>> Winter garage cleaning, let's find some new homes for this stuff.
>>
>> Shipping not included in listed price.
>>
>> Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*
>>
>> Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*
>>
>> VP-001 pedals, black - *$35*
>>
>> Shimano Deore XT M735 rear derailleur - *$20*
>>
>> Nitto/Sycip JJJ handlebar, 31.8, 660mm - *$55*
>>
>> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end 
>> - *$110*
>>
>> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires, standard casing, 700x44. Couldn't get 
>> these to seal tubeless on Cliffhangers, lots of life left. - *$85*
>>
>> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
>> V's more - *$30*
>>
>> PHOTOS 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1n5M3EeMw3zdgGZ9xk3psVLtCNF7d9YKI?usp=sharing>
>>
>> Please respond off list, thanks for looking!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Nitto, Rene Herse, Shimano XT, Clipper Crankset, etc

[Jared Wilson]

*Remaining items below:*

Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*

Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*

Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
*$110*

Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure V's 
more - *$30*

On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 1:21:14 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey Group,
>
> Winter garage cleaning, let's find some new homes for this stuff.
>
> Shipping not included in listed price.
>
> Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*
>
> Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*
>
> VP-001 pedals, black - *$35*
>
> Shimano Deore XT M735 rear derailleur - *$20*
>
> Nitto/Sycip JJJ handlebar, 31.8, 660mm - *$55*
>
> Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
> *$110*
>
> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires, standard casing, 700x44. Couldn't get 
> these to seal tubeless on Cliffhangers, lots of life left. - *$85*
>
> Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure 
> V's more - *$30*
>
> PHOTOS 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1n5M3EeMw3zdgGZ9xk3psVLtCNF7d9YKI?usp=sharing>
>
> Please respond off list, thanks for looking!
>

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[RBW] For Sale: Nitto, Rene Herse, Shimano XT, Clipper Crankset, etc

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Group,

Winter garage cleaning, let's find some new homes for this stuff.

Shipping not included in listed price.

Clipper crankset, silver, 175mm, 43, 36, 26 - *$90*

Blue Lug chainring guard, 110bcd, 38t - *$25*

VP-001 pedals, black - *$35*

Shimano Deore XT M735 rear derailleur - *$20*

Nitto/Sycip JJJ handlebar, 31.8, 660mm - *$55*

Nitto RBW51 rack, with diving board, slight bend in one strut at the end - 
*$110*

Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires, standard casing, 700x44. Couldn't get 
these to seal tubeless on Cliffhangers, lots of life left. - *$85*

Selle SMP TRK medium, basically new, put about 2 miles on, like my Pure V's 
more - *$30*

PHOTOS 


Please respond off list, thanks for looking!

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Teravail Ehline 29x2.5 for 700x48-55 tires

[Jared Wilson]

Ehlines claimed, thanks for everyones interest!
On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 8:27:29 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey group,
>
> Worked out a Susie--->Platypus trade so I need to downsize my tires.
>
> *Have:* A pair of Teravail Ehline 29x2.5 tan wall light and supples with 
> about 100 miles
>
> *Want:* Your 700x48-55 tires, slight knobs preferred but not essential. 
> Gravel King SK? RH Hatcher Pass? Lemme know what you have, off list of 
> course, and let's work out a deal.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Jared
>

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[RBW] WTT: Teravail Ehline 29x2.5 for 700x48-55 tires

[Jared Wilson]

Hey group,

Worked out a Susie--->Platypus trade so I need to downsize my tires.

*Have:* A pair of Teravail Ehline 29x2.5 tan wall light and supples with 
about 100 miles

*Want:* Your 700x48-55 tires, slight knobs preferred but not essential. 
Gravel King SK? RH Hatcher Pass? Lemme know what you have, off list of 
course, and let's work out a deal.

Thanks :)

Jared

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Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Jared Wilson]

NOS Bleriot framesets in 55, 57, and 59 on the Facebook group 
"Rivendellicious"

https://www.facebook.com/groups/19202914712

Good luck!

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:07 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gus Boots Wilsen
> 57cm
> $2,000 
> Knoxville, TN
>
>
> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/bik/d/greenville-2022-rivendell-gus-boots/7557073606.html
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>
>> Heron F/F/HS
>> 59cm
>> Glencoe, Missouri
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225290552848
>>
>> [image: s-l1600-1.jpg]
>>
>> Emmet's Atlantis
>> 62cm
>> $4,100
>> Johnstown, Penna. 
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/I0J98HEzLE8/m/kIFrddphAwAJ
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/204180214887
>>
>> [image: 00C0C_cYCQbXn7REEz_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>
>> Platypus F/F/HS
>> 60cm
>> $1,637
>> Eugene, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/7564024599.html
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 2:19:43 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> There's a 62cm Hunqapillar complete at Hope Cyclery for $3,600
>>>  
>>> [image: IMG_3589.PNG]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus v Susie Longbolts Comparison

[Jared Wilson]

I'll give it a go...

Prerequisites: 56cm Susie, 59cm Susie, 60cm Cheviot and 60cm Platypus

I think you're on the right track with the similarities between these two 
models, they ride much the same with, IMO, the main difference being the 
max tire size and front load-abliity.

The Platypus lends itself to what the copy states, zooming around town and 
in my experience the Platy handles a front (racked) load better than the 
Susie. This isn't to say that's all the Platypus is good for, as you have 
experienced first hand the Plat is very capable off road as well. Set up 
with Snoqualmie Pass tires for country or town cruising and 2.1 Thunder 
Burts for all terrain riding and you have a bike that's hard to beat. The 
bottom bracket does feel lower on the Platypus (I'm certain it is) and that 
does factor into some of the difference in feel between the two, but it's 
certainly not all that dramatic. I wouldn't worry about stated load 
capacity variances between the two, they're both stout bikes that can 
handle most anything the average person can throw at them. Weight wise I'd 
say they're also comparable, just depends on the racks, tires, etc.

My old 60cm Platypus is now in the hands of my wife (86pbh) who loads it 
down with a small Fabios chest up front and Swift panniers on a shiny rack 
out back. Even when she doesn't need all that capacity she'll leave the 
bags on because they leave the ability to find treasure out on the road 
(alley fruit, garage sale finds, etc). You'd think she's going on tour with 
her daily kit, but the Platypus takes it well and keeps on ticking. She 
claims it to be her forever bike and the only addition to the stable she 
cares to make will be a Heron touring whenever it may present itself.

My (89pbh) current bike is the 59cm Susie, with the 56cm being my first 
venture into Rivendells. I love the Susie, and the 56cm was just a little 
too small for my taste, with more stem and seatpost showing than I cared 
for. The 59cm feels a bit less crowded than the 60cm Platypus which I 
appreciate, and the additional tire clearance is welcome, but I feel that 
bike encourages a bit more tire than I actually need. The bulk of our 
riding is on country roads and occasional dirt, and the 2.5" Ehlines are a 
little overkill, but they sure look right at home. I'm keeping my eyes 
peeled for a pair of Fleecer Ridge or Super Yummy tires (both 29x2.2) to 
see how the bike responds to a little less meat. Like I stated above, I 
don't care for a front racked load on the Susie, and this is after trying a 
few different set ups (Pass and Stow 5 rail, Marks Rack, RBW51) and I'm not 
quite sure how so many other people are content with front racks on theirs. 
I do toggle between an XS Sackville saddlebag on the bars and a small 
Fabios Chest, which doesn't give nearly the ill effects that a rack and 
basket does, YMMV. In the rear I use a shiny rear rack with Sackville 
Happisack and love the combo, I can't tell the difference with or without a 
bag in the rear.

I think it's a bit of the Leah's dual Platypus situation, they're similar 
bikes and can be set up to do much of the same things, but why not have 
both to shine in their respective areas. When customs come back online I'll 
be thinking long and hard about a Platypus-esque mixte with a few tweaks to 
make it a better fit for me, but for now I'm content with my Susie for what 
it is.

Apologies if my long winded response didn't make anything more clear, I 
guess the short of it is that they have a lot of overlap and can do much of 
the same stuff, just depends on how you set them up.

-Jared in SLO, CA
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 5:20:55 PM UTC-8 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> How similar or different are the Platypus and the Wolbis Slugstone aka 
> Susie W. Longbolts?
>
> Some of the discussion around Jacob’s Gus v Platy decision 
> , 
> and Masa’s "How you choose 2 Rivendells?" thread 
>  
> have me thinking about the similarities and differences between the Susie 
> Longbolts and the Platypus.  I think I’ve heard about Susies carrying 
> weight better or worse in the front or in the back compared to the 
> Platypus, but would love to hear from especially anyone who owns BOTH a 
> PLATY and a SUSIE or who has owned or ridden both close together in time.
>
> Are the Platypus and the Susie VERY similar? If the Susie is a “hillibike” 
> only qualified up to 205 + 25lbs, and the platypus is a country bike 
> ostensibly designed for less jarring impact and bumps but without a 
> mentioned weight limit and carrying up to 30lbs…if the Platy could take 
> 2.4”s would we have an Atlantis vs Appaloosa situation almost?
>
> From what I can tell, the Major differences Platy to Susie (sure, 7 plus 
> differences are certainly enough to make two bikes VERY different, but *How 
> do they ride 

[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Max,

Can't speak to the "why" aspect, but you're not crazy in your observation.

We have (3) pairs of the BL BT III and (1) pair of the Bubbly pedals and 
they're not in the same category. Not to say there's anything wrong with 
the Bear Traps, but the Bubbly pedals are on an entirely different level.

That said, either option good and you shouldn't regret your decision, you 
did what works for the time being and maybe later on down the road you get 
to try the alternative, but I wouldn't dwell on it all that much.

Jared in SLO

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:05:10 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I decided to get new pedals for the bike I'm building. First I went to my 
> LBS (Cambridge Bicycles) and they suggested the Simworks Bubbly pedals - I 
> really liked the spin on them and the looks, but unfortunately they only 
> had the olives in stock. They sent me to the Simworks website, but the 
> polished were sold out. (Their next order was going to be in about a month 
> at best)
>
> Reading through the forum I saw good comments on the Blue Lug Bear Trap 
> III and ordered them in silver. 
>
> They arrived today and I'm surprised because they feel much less smooth 
> than the bubbly ones. To be fair they are much less expensive $62 vs $100 
> but still, is this normal?
>
> Is it the lack of sealed bearings that affects rotational performance?
>
> Will I feel a real difference if I go with one over the other?
>
> Thanks for your opinions and knowledge.
>
> Max in Boston
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 58cm SimpleOne

[Jared Wilson]

Sold!

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 12:02:56 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> BUMP!
>
> $1300 with Pasela 32s instead of the Snoqualmie Pass tires
>
> Thanks :)
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s a beautiful thing.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> Hey group,
>>
>>
>> Repurchased my old SimpleOne earlier this year and just don't find myself 
>> riding it enough, I thought that might change the second time around, 
>> alas
>>
>> 58cm Rivendell SimpleOne Frame/Fork
>>
>> *Used with paint chips and a micro-dent on the top tube. I don't buy 
>> bikes with dented tubes but this one is so small I couldn't find the energy 
>> to care, you should do the same!*
>>
>> Tange Headset
>>
>> Nitto 85mm 31.8 FacePlater stem
>>
>> Nitto/Riv 31.8 BullBar
>>
>> Origin8 brake levers
>>
>> Ergon GP1 BioKork grips
>>
>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-brakes, rear will be swapped to black before sale
>>
>> Nitto S65 seatpost
>>
>> WTB Pure V saddle
>>
>> IRD 165mm 144bcd cranks with 42T 3/32" Wabi chainring
>>
>> Shimano UN300 BB
>>
>> OEM Quickbeam wheels, Suzue hubs to Mavic rims
>>
>> 18T White Industries Eno Trials Freewheel
>>
>> 20T White Industries Eno Freewheel
>>
>> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Endurance Tires (700x44)
>>
>> Surly Tuggnut chain tensioner
>>
>> Pedals not included
>>
>> SimpleOne Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dqnO-6piFDiOH0I1tedE7T8PWHFSIAs4?usp=sharing>
>>
>> *$1500 + buyer pays shipping*
>>
>> Can deliver to SF Bay Area November 30th or down to LA around Christmas 
>> time.
>>
>> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>>
>> Jared in SLO County
>>
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[RBW] Re: What dual short/long pull brake levers are out there?

[Jared Wilson]

Some Origin8 levers have this feature, I'd check eBay and see what's 
available.

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 2:42:43 PM UTC-8 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy all,
>
> I'm in need of a matching pair of brake levers that are interchangeable 
> between short pull and long pull. Because of a front rack non-compatibility 
> issue with my current canti brakes, I'll have to use a v-brake in front, 
> but I'd to keep the canti brake in the rear.
>
> I'm aware of the Shimano BLR780 which Riv sells, but ideally I'd like 
> something with a longer lever body. Does anyone know of any other levers, 
> by Shimano or any other brand, that has the criteria that I'm looking for? 
> Thanks,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>

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[RBW] Re: What dual short/long pull brake levers are out there?

[Jared Wilson]

Most Origin8 levers have this feature, I'd check eBay and see what's 
currently available. 

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 2:42:43 PM UTC-8 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy all,
>
> I'm in need of a matching pair of brake levers that are interchangeable 
> between short pull and long pull. Because of a front rack non-compatibility 
> issue with my current canti brakes, I'll have to use a v-brake in front, 
> but I'd to keep the canti brake in the rear.
>
> I'm aware of the Shimano BLR780 which Riv sells, but ideally I'd like 
> something with a longer lever body. Does anyone know of any other levers, 
> by Shimano or any other brand, that has the criteria that I'm looking for? 
> Thanks,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 58cm SimpleOne

[Jared Wilson]

BUMP!

$1300 with Pasela 32s instead of the Snoqualmie Pass tires

Thanks :)

On Saturday, November 19, 2022 at 10:09:41 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> That’s a beautiful thing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 18, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
> Hey group,
>
>
> Repurchased my old SimpleOne earlier this year and just don't find myself 
> riding it enough, I thought that might change the second time around, 
> alas
>
> 58cm Rivendell SimpleOne Frame/Fork
>
> *Used with paint chips and a micro-dent on the top tube. I don't buy bikes 
> with dented tubes but this one is so small I couldn't find the energy to 
> care, you should do the same!*
>
> Tange Headset
>
> Nitto 85mm 31.8 FacePlater stem
>
> Nitto/Riv 31.8 BullBar
>
> Origin8 brake levers
>
> Ergon GP1 BioKork grips
>
> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-brakes, rear will be swapped to black before sale
>
> Nitto S65 seatpost
>
> WTB Pure V saddle
>
> IRD 165mm 144bcd cranks with 42T 3/32" Wabi chainring
>
> Shimano UN300 BB
>
> OEM Quickbeam wheels, Suzue hubs to Mavic rims
>
> 18T White Industries Eno Trials Freewheel
>
> 20T White Industries Eno Freewheel
>
> Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Endurance Tires (700x44)
>
> Surly Tuggnut chain tensioner
>
> Pedals not included
>
> SimpleOne Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dqnO-6piFDiOH0I1tedE7T8PWHFSIAs4?usp=sharing>
>
> *$1500 + buyer pays shipping*
>
> Can deliver to SF Bay Area November 30th or down to LA around Christmas 
> time.
>
> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>
> Jared in SLO County
>
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[RBW] FS: 58cm SimpleOne

[Jared Wilson]

Hey group,

Repurchased my old SimpleOne earlier this year and just don't find myself 
riding it enough, I thought that might change the second time around, 
alas

58cm Rivendell SimpleOne Frame/Fork

*Used with paint chips and a micro-dent on the top tube. I don't buy bikes 
with dented tubes but this one is so small I couldn't find the energy to 
care, you should do the same!*

Tange Headset

Nitto 85mm 31.8 FacePlater stem

Nitto/Riv 31.8 BullBar

Origin8 brake levers

Ergon GP1 BioKork grips

Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-brakes, rear will be swapped to black before sale

Nitto S65 seatpost

WTB Pure V saddle

IRD 165mm 144bcd cranks with 42T 3/32" Wabi chainring

Shimano UN300 BB

OEM Quickbeam wheels, Suzue hubs to Mavic rims

18T White Industries Eno Trials Freewheel

20T White Industries Eno Freewheel

Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Endurance Tires (700x44)

Surly Tuggnut chain tensioner

Pedals not included

SimpleOne Photos 


*$1500 + buyer pays shipping*

Can deliver to SF Bay Area November 30th or down to LA around Christmas 
time.

Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)

Jared in SLO County

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[RBW] WTB: Analog/Discord 30mm Threaded Stem

[Jared Wilson]

Hey gang,

Looking to shorten the reach on my Susie with a 30mm Discord/Analog 
threaded stem.

Don't care which color, have parts to trade or will purchase outright.

Please respond off list, thanks :)

Jared

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SimpleOne

[Jared Wilson]

Such a good deal, and a very fine seller to work with.

Best of luck with the sale, Jason.

-Jared, who purchased the old wheels from this bike, in SLO, CA

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 6:15:37 PM UTC-7 jasonz...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build with 
> a better price point
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421
>
> 56cm Rivendell SimpleOne crimson w/ cream accents… updated for you on this 
> special #InternationalSingleSpeedDay
>
>
> Im asking 1900 plus shipping as shown or 1300 shipped CONUS sans wheelset… 
> buyer to pay PayPal fees.
>
>
> here’s what’s going on now on this bike:
>
>
> Frame/fork newly painted by Rick @ D
>
> campy headset
>
> SKF jis bb (10 year warranty)
>
> Rene Herse SS 171crank 48t chainring
>
> paul funky monkey front and rear 
>
> Paul Touring Cantis in the rear (no front brake)
>
> Paul Tall and Handsome seat post
>
> nitto noodle bars
>
> brooks C17 saddle 
>
> velocity quill wheels with rear Paul flip flop hub 18 free hub/18fixed
>
> front hub is a shutter precision dyno hub
>
> ultradynamico rose/cava tires
>
> TRP brake levers 
>
> (Pedals and bottle cages not included)
> Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jason
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:14:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Zakaras wrote:
>
>> Bump for #InternationalSingleSpeedDay and a *slightly* updated build 
>> with a better price point
>> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/144421
>>
>> Easier to add photos and post via crust (for me).
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:13:58 AM UTC-5 malvar...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Woah! In Omaha too!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 2:01:12 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for posting that Matt.  Yes, these are the magic-components 
 dango bros carriers. They are the sold out polished ones and really look 
 great, they work really good and wish they had them in stock when I was 
 building my QB up but ended up using the moon units for that build (also 
 fantastic)

 Per the original post, I'd be willing to take offers for this, 
 especially if someone wanted to go without the wheelset or other items. 
  Just snagged the recent Ebay 58cm hunqapillar so I'm super motivated to 
 sell this bike to make room and justify it with my lovely wife (who is 
 delivering our 5th child this month) so yeah motivated to say the least.

 cheers!

 On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:34:10 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Guessing they are these.
>
> https://crustbikes.com/products/magic-components-dango-bros
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:25:09 PM UTC-5 steve wrote:
>
>> Beautiful bike.  Where did you get the smiley face cable carriers?
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 12:17:35 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A quick explanation of what's going on here:
>>>
>>> I purchased this bike a year ago and decided to polish it up to new 
>>> with some classy bits and bobs while also recruiting Rick @ D to do a 
>>> crimson & cream fully accented paint job.  In the process I stumbled 
>>> upon a 
>>> very nice 58cm Quickbeam and I feel that while the renovated bike looks 
>>> amazing, doesn't get the attention it deserves based on the way the QB 
>>> is 
>>> set up for the riding I do around my house  Everything has been 
>>> professionally updated and all the parts are new.  I've put on about 40 
>>> miles since it's been rebuilt and I think it really turned out lovely.  
>>> As 
>>> with many bikes, I feel that the price is appropriate (I'm taking a 
>>> haircut 
>>> on the bike from what I've put into it) but also would be flexible on 
>>> it as 
>>> I'd be willing to keep anything on it, especially the newly built 
>>> wheelset, 
>>> to bring your cost down.  please connect with me privately if 
>>> interested.
>>> Photos:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>> build:
>>>
>>> 56cm SimpleOne
>>>
>>> Polished Paul bits (tall n handsome + neo retro + touring cantis)
>>>
>>> Polished smiley face cable carriers
>>>
>>> Campy headset
>>>
>>> SKF jis bb 107
>>>
>>> Crust towel rack wrapped with brooks tape to match brooks b17 saddle 
>>>
>>> Rene herse 48t crank to surly 18t free hub
>>>
>>> Paul flip flop rear hub with surly 18t fix as well
>>>
>>> Front hub polished sp7 dyno
>>>
>>> Wheels polished quill 700c w/ ultradynamico grey rose/cava tires
>>>
>>> Paul Funky monkey front and rear polished
>>>
>>> Front dyne lamp and rack not included
>>>
>>> Buyer would be responsible for 

[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Jared Wilson]

$160/shipped is a great deal for this rack, we have (2) in use and love 
them.

Best of luck with the sale, Ray!

Jared

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:48:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Giving this a bump. 
> These are currently $178 from Rivendell and as mentioned in a recent 
> email, will increase in price with the next shipment 
>
> Ray
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:16:50 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug,
>> I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have 
>> a mounting tab. 
>> The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole 
>> and the nut secures it in place. 
>> Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items 
>> is where I’ve always found P clamps. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I 
>>> could mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
 As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
 $150 for local pickup 
 $160 shipped

 Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

 Thank you 
 Ray

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto/RBW Bull Bar, Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires

[Jared Wilson]

Handlebars still available, make an offer!

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:02:35 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Todays offerings...
>
> *Nitto/RBW Bull Bar, 70cmx31.8mm - $100 + shipping*
>
> Good used condition, currently sold out at Riv.
>
> Love this handlebar but I'm a creature of habit and needed some rise on my 
> Susie.
>
> *Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires - $100 + shipping*
>
> Good used condition, lots of life remaining
>
> PHOTOS 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SJBv_Qif31miXxBsGaALUiRRtn2vWKII?usp=sharing>
>
> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>
> Jared in SLO
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[RBW] FS: Nitto/RBW Bull Bar, Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires

[Jared Wilson]

Todays offerings...

*Nitto/RBW Bull Bar, 70cmx31.8mm - $100 + shipping*

Good used condition, currently sold out at Riv.

Love this handlebar but I'm a creature of habit and needed some rise on my 
Susie.

*Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires - $100 + shipping*

Good used condition, lots of life remaining

PHOTOS 


Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)

Jared in SLO

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Jared Wilson]

I wrote this up a day or two ago and hesitated to post but after talking 
with Ariel I've decided to share, apologies to Jim if it doesn't meet group 
guidelines.

Last New Years Eve, 2021, my wife and I set out for one last ride of the 
year, venturing through wine country just outside of San Luis Obispo city 
limits. 

Suffice to say we were celebrating our own version "Bicycle Day", Ariel 
piloting her beloved Platypus and me aboard my then Cheviot. Things were 
just starting to get interesting as I was trailing Ariel when a black 
Chevrolet Tahoe came flying up the road behind us and made absolutely zero 
effort to acknowledge our existence, coming within a foot of my beloved 
ahead. He must have been cognizant of his lack of regard for us because he 
looked in his rear view mirror only to be met with my one finger salute. 
This enraged the man, who slammed on his brakes in the middle of the lane 
in anticipation of our arrival. Harassment ensued, threats were made 
towards me, and I could only smile and agree with the 50-something year old 
man who claimed "I'm going to kick your a**", "I'm sure you will buddy" I 
responded. I think that was enough to bolster his ego so he threw his SUV 
into gear and peeled out, never to be seen again. I didn't catch is plate 
number but I made note of his license plate frame. I kept an eye out for 
him around our small town for a while before coming to the conclusion that 
he doesn't deserve to continue to live rent free in my mind, so I'd finally 
let go of the situation until seeing this thread arise.

Moral of the story, you can't change someones mind who doesn't want to 
change it themself, it's better to not engage, smile, and continue on your 
way.

Jared in SLO, CA

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 11:58:56 AM UTC-7 foolis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Longtime lurker and Riv owner here. Last summer while riding my Riv Road I 
> was run over by a truck rolling through a stop sign. I went down and the 
> truck rolled over my bike and right shoulder. It's spooky being under a 
> moving vehicle like that. I was pretty mangled, cuts, fractures, dislocated 
> shoulder, etc. 
>
> Lessons learned? Traffic is alway more dangerous coming from where you 
> can't see. (i.e. intersections) Also, drivers should never roll through a 
> stop sign and keep an eye out for us cyclists. That young kid hopefully 
> will never make that mistake again. I've been clipped a few times before 
> but this was the worst. 
>
> Also: If anyone is looking for a Riv Road 58cm (straight) but needing a 
> fork, let me know! It looks good on the mantle but should be ridden again. 
>
> Trevor
> Looking both ways in Nashville
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 5:16:55 PM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>
>> Please be very cautious when choosing to engage with drivers.  Only they 
>> know what lurks in their minds at that moment.  
>>
>> Curtis
>> Yielding to a 3000 pound mass of steel is a wise decision.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 2:59 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> I moved this year and there's a 55mph 4-lane highway I use a lot, I 
>>> don't love the speeds as the cars fly by but the emergency lane is wide and 
>>> I don't worry about it too much. What PISSES ME OFF are the honkers who do 
>>> it just to startle me cuz I guess it's hilarious.  Not a fan. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:51:24 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>>
 I had an incident last year thar still affects me. I was rolling along 
 in the shoulder, enjoying the day en route the donut shop turnaround point 
 (30 miles out, 30 back) when a pick up driver tried sideswiping me. He had 
 to aim for me, this was intentional. My reactions meant I swerved clear, 
 almost hard enough to take myself off. Luckily my tires held.

 I had no interaction with driver prior to this. It was a driver who 
 just wanted to punish a cyclist. 

 I still feel stress following this incident and no longer ride that 
 route at all. It's just not fun anymore.

 I do live in oil country and among really good people, there are some 
 very entitled and angry people who will bully and intimidate. 

 Dealing with this stuff is difficult, but I would say this forum.is 
 probably not the place for it.

 IanA Alberta Canada

 On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:40:27 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I got "the honk" a couple weeks ago. I was on a residential street 
> that narrows down from 35mph posted limit to 25 as it comes around a 
> tight 
> curve and shoots downhill. At the crest I took the lane with the 
> knowledge 
> that shortly I would be rolling at near 25 and a big black lifted pickup 
> came off a side street at the same time. HONK! It was stupid and I 
> briefly 
> considered getting aggressive with cowboy, but I just as quickly deduced 
> that getting run over or shot was probably not a good plan. I moved over 
> and let Jethro through. My 

Re: [RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Jared Wilson]

I wrote this up a day or two ago and hesitated to post but after talking 
with Ariel I've decided to share, apologies to Jim if it doesn't meet group 
guidelines.

Last New Years Eve, 2021, my wife and I set out for one last ride of the 
year, venturing through wine country just outside of San Luis Obispo city 
limits. 

Suffice to say we were celebrating our own version "Bicycle Day", Ariel 
piloting her beloved Platypus and me aboard my then Cheviot. Things were 
just starting to get interesting as I was trailing Ariel when a black 
Chevrolet Tahoe came flying up the road behind us and made absolutely zero 
effort to acknowledge our existence, coming within a foot of my beloved 
ahead. He must have been cognizant of his lack of regard for us because he 
looked in his rear view mirror only to be met with my one finger salute. 
This enraged the man, who slammed on his brakes in the middle of the lane 
in anticipation of our arrival. Harassment ensued, threats were made 
towards me, and I could only smile and agree with the 50-something year old 
man who claimed "I'm going to kick your a**", "I'm sure you will buddy" I 
responded. I think that was enough to bolster his ego so he threw his SUV 
into gear and peeled out, never to be seen again. I didn't catch is plate 
number but I made note of his license plate frame. I kept an eye out for 
him around our small town for a while before coming to the conclusion that 
he doesn't deserve to continue to live rent free in my mind, so I'd finally 
let go of the situation until seeing this thread arise.

Moral of the story, you can't change someones mind who doesn't want to 
change it themself, it's better to either not engage, smile, and continue 
on your way.

Jared in SLO, CA
On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 11:58:56 AM UTC-7 foolis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Longtime lurker and Riv owner here. Last summer while riding my Riv Road I 
> was run over by a truck rolling through a stop sign. I went down and the 
> truck rolled over my bike and right shoulder. It's spooky being under a 
> moving vehicle like that. I was pretty mangled, cuts, fractures, dislocated 
> shoulder, etc. 
>
> Lessons learned? Traffic is alway more dangerous coming from where you 
> can't see. (i.e. intersections) Also, drivers should never roll through a 
> stop sign and keep an eye out for us cyclists. That young kid hopefully 
> will never make that mistake again. I've been clipped a few times before 
> but this was the worst. 
>
> Also: If anyone is looking for a Riv Road 58cm (straight) but needing a 
> fork, let me know! It looks good on the mantle but should be ridden again. 
>
> Trevor
> Looking both ways in Nashville
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 5:16:55 PM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>
>> Please be very cautious when choosing to engage with drivers.  Only they 
>> know what lurks in their minds at that moment.  
>>
>> Curtis
>> Yielding to a 3000 pound mass of steel is a wise decision.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 2:59 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> I moved this year and there's a 55mph 4-lane highway I use a lot, I 
>>> don't love the speeds as the cars fly by but the emergency lane is wide and 
>>> I don't worry about it too much. What PISSES ME OFF are the honkers who do 
>>> it just to startle me cuz I guess it's hilarious.  Not a fan. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:51:24 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>>
 I had an incident last year thar still affects me. I was rolling along 
 in the shoulder, enjoying the day en route the donut shop turnaround point 
 (30 miles out, 30 back) when a pick up driver tried sideswiping me. He had 
 to aim for me, this was intentional. My reactions meant I swerved clear, 
 almost hard enough to take myself off. Luckily my tires held.

 I had no interaction with driver prior to this. It was a driver who 
 just wanted to punish a cyclist. 

 I still feel stress following this incident and no longer ride that 
 route at all. It's just not fun anymore.

 I do live in oil country and among really good people, there are some 
 very entitled and angry people who will bully and intimidate. 

 Dealing with this stuff is difficult, but I would say this forum.is 
 probably not the place for it.

 IanA Alberta Canada

 On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:40:27 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I got "the honk" a couple weeks ago. I was on a residential street 
> that narrows down from 35mph posted limit to 25 as it comes around a 
> tight 
> curve and shoots downhill. At the crest I took the lane with the 
> knowledge 
> that shortly I would be rolling at near 25 and a big black lifted pickup 
> came off a side street at the same time. HONK! It was stupid and I 
> briefly 
> considered getting aggressive with cowboy, but I just as quickly deduced 
> that getting run over or shot was probably not a good plan. I moved over 
> and let Jethro through. 

[RBW] Re: WTB: Wavie Bar 750x31.8

[Jared Wilson]

Randy, I believe you're correct that they haven't actually made those 31.8 
Wavies yet.

I do have a pair of the new for 2022 and also currently sold out Bull Bar 
70cm x 31.8  I'm 
going to listing on the group if either of you are interested, $100 + 
shipping.

Jared

On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 9:21:24 AM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> I could be wrong, but I don’t think there is such a bar. I think it is 
> listed as a possible size, and was teased as a possibility in 2022. Someone 
> please correct me if this is incorrect - I’m very interested in this bar as 
> well!
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> If you have a 750mm wide Wavie bar sitting around, I'd love to buy it 
>> from you. Please send me a PM. If you know another place besides Riv to 
>> source that bar, please let me know!
>>
>> I have the narrow one, but I want the wide one :)
>>
>> Loscos sweep back too much on my Gus, and the narrow Wavie's just aren't 
>> quite wide enough for the handling I want on the chunky single track. 
>> Tumbleweed Persuaders are just about perfect, but they are too wide and I 
>> don't want to cut them down before I give the wide Wavies a try.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Basket Rack: is it too heavy?

[Jared Wilson]

I was cognizant of the fact that it weighed more than the M1 rack it 
replaced, but I never found it to be an issue per se. Plus the added peace 
of mind while getting groceries or carrying our small dog was enough for me 
to not think twice about it's weight.

I also keep a John's Irish Strap on all my handlebars to immediately lash 
my front wheel to the down tube when I arrive at my destination, regardless 
of rack/no rack, but I might try one of the stabilizer things Joe 
recommended as an added precaution.

Garth's sentiment sounds about right to me, if it doesn't feel good to you 
then that's that!

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:50:22 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Now if you want to keep the rack AND spend money on a bike part (more is 
> MORE) you can get this handy little wheel stabilizer thingy. I had one on a 
> front-racked bike for a while, it won't solve the weight problem for 
> lifting but it'll reduce the floppiness. 
>
> https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-wheel-stabilizer
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:06:44 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> This is fascinating. I’m really interested in these different 
>> experiences. So, to those of you who liked the rack: 
>>
>> 1. You didn’t notice the weight or find it objectionable?
>> 2. You weren’t irritated by the bars swinging when parked? 
>>
>> I even have the same bike as Jared and I have such a different experience!
>> L
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> I had the basket rack on my Platypus (I think I got it from Max?) and 
>> loved it on that frame. Recently moved the basket rack to my SimpleOne with 
>> only praises, tho I only use a XS Sackville in the rear (would prefer a 
>> banana sack but can't justify more bags right now). I could see a basket 
>> rack in front and full size rack in rear being overkill for most people, 
>> but if you're doing *only* a front rack I feel the 52F with 139 is hard 
>> to beat in terms of utility.
>>
>> Jared in SLO
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Re: [RBW] Crustendell Clementine Clydesdale Cargo Cycle Conversion progress

[Jared Wilson]

I love everything about this, thank you for stepping outside of the box!

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:14:30 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> The Crust Clydesdale fork has mounts for two brakes - a disc and a V / 
> cantilever. I am using a V-brake as a parking brake. The third brake lever 
> is a Dia-Compe with locking mechanism - similar to what many recumbent 
> trikes have. Apply the brake, push the button in, release the brake, 
> release the button and the lever maintains cable tension, locking the 
> wheel. Just apply the brake lever again and release and the button pops out 
> and the parking brake is off.
>
> You can also get a brake lever that applies two brakes at once, but I 
> thought the parking brake along with the SteerStopper to lock the forks 
> straight ahead is what a cargo bike needs.
>
> [image: parkingbrakes.jpg]
>
> The twist ties are just temporary until I am satisfied with cable lengths 
> and routing.
>
> The blue cables are to match the blue Clementine decals.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 11:25:36 AM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>
>> Wow, that’s a cool hybrid! Elegant and utilitarian. 
>> I can’t remember ever seeing a bicycle parking brake. 
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:46 AM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>> Making some progress again at last. Fitting fenders and playing with tire 
>>> sizes. Going to install the chain today. Ordered the locking brake lever 
>>> for the parking brake.
>>>
>>
>> <22-10-06s.jpg>
>>
>> Laing 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Basket Rack: is it too heavy?

[Jared Wilson]

I had the basket rack on my Platypus (I think I got it from Max?) and loved 
it on that frame. Recently moved the basket rack to my SimpleOne with only 
praises, tho I only use a XS Sackville in the rear (would prefer a banana 
sack but can't justify more bags right now). I could see a basket rack in 
front and full size rack in rear being overkill for most people, but if 
you're doing *only* a front rack I feel the 52F with 139 is hard to beat in 
terms of utility.

Jared in SLO

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Fork Paint Options!

[Jared Wilson]

I'd color match the fork to the original paint.

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:09:22 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> My vote is for matching to existing color
>
> On Oct 7, 2022, at 6:05 PM, David Person  wrote:
>
> Love the red.
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-7 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I vote for keeping the 2-tone. Get some panda pedals (
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018?variant=32047969697903) 
>> and some Oveja Negra wack pack bags (
>> https://www.ovejanegrabikepacking.com/collections/wack-pack-color-collection)
>>  
>> and just fully embrace the patchwork style.  :) Really glad you were easily 
>> able to get a new fork for it though.
>>
>> Mike 
>>
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 3:04:16 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> My Appaloosa has a new blue fork! I’m now considering the options:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Leave the fork as-is so the bike is two-tone
>>>2. Repaint the fork to match the existing frame color
>>>3. Repaint the fork and the bike: either metallic red to match my 
>>>old Schwinn, or a blue-gray gunmetal
>>>
>>> If you’ve replaced a fork, what did you do? 
>>>
>>> I thought you might like to see how those options might look:
>>>
>>> Existing frame and fork:
>>>
>>> [image: bike_mustard_bluefork_small.jpg]
>>>
>>> Fork painted to match frame:
>>>
>>> [image: bike_existing_small.jpg]
>>>
>>> Schwinn red metallic:
>>>
>>> [image: bike_red_black_small.jpg]
>>>
>>> Blue-gray gunmetal:
>>>
>>> [image: bike_bluegray_honey.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B68, Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2.1

[Jared Wilson]

Brooks sold!

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 7:21:28 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Email sent
>
> On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 10:16:09 PM UTC-4 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Hey group,
>>
>> A few more things for your consideration
>>
>> *Brooks B68 Honey - $150 + shipping*
>>
>> Basically new, some light markings around the nose rivet.
>>
>> Got it for my wife but she prefers the "S" models, I rode it for about 30 
>> miles and it doesn't jive with me either.
>>
>> All packaging included.
>>
>> [image: IMG_5796.JPG]
>>
>>
>> *Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2.1 tires - $65 + shipping*
>>
>> Very good condition, fast and smooth tires. 
>>
>> Ran tubeless and have residual sealant to be cleaned.
>>
>> I've kept these around long enough to realize I won't be using them any 
>> longer so let's find them a new home.
>>
>> [image: IMG_5801.JPG]
>>
>> Please respond off list, thanks :)
>>
>> Jared
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Caradice, Selle Anatomica X1, Rene Herse Antelope Hill, Suntour Barcons, etc

[Jared Wilson]

Heading to the post office in a few, here's what remains...

Nitto/Specialized stems, 26.0: Black, 100mm $20, Silver 125mm $25

Selle Anatomica X1, blemish model with sub 50 miles: $90 *PENDING*

Suntour Barcons: $40

Dynaplug Racer Pro, new, Radavist version: $40

WTB Riddler 700x37: Free

Suntour Mountech FD: Free


On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:45:19 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Rack is now spoken for...
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 10:48:42 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Handlebars and tires spoken for, everything else still available.
>>
>> -jared
>>
>> On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:41:41 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Just moved and need to clear out some stuff, *shipping not included*.
>>>
>>> Nitto Losco handlebars: Sold out at Riv, get 'em here for $80
>>>
>>> Nitto Tallux 80mm 25.4 Stem: $65
>>>
>>> Nitto/Specialized stems, 26.0: Black $20, Silver $25
>>>
>>> Nitto R14 rack w/ tombstone: $110
>>>
>>> Caradice bag: $60
>>>
>>> Selle Anatomica X1, blemish model with sub 50 miles: $90
>>>
>>> Compass branded Antelope Hill 700x55 Extralight tires, bought used but 
>>> very good condition and didn't use: $100
>>>
>>> Suntour Barcons: $40
>>>
>>> Dynaplug Racer Pro, new, Radavist version: $40
>>>
>>> WTB Riddler 700x37: Free
>>>
>>> Suntour Mountech FD: Free
>>>
>>> Photos 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jrIvl43oMvh5l5upFxzTz413vaAJanh2?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>> Please respond off list, thanks!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Caradice, Selle Anatomica X1, Rene Herse Antelope Hill, Suntour Barcons, etc

[Jared Wilson]

Rack is now spoken for...

On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 10:48:42 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Handlebars and tires spoken for, everything else still available.
>
> -jared
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:41:41 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Just moved and need to clear out some stuff, *shipping not included*.
>>
>> Nitto Losco handlebars: Sold out at Riv, get 'em here for $80
>>
>> Nitto Tallux 80mm 25.4 Stem: $65
>>
>> Nitto/Specialized stems, 26.0: Black $20, Silver $25
>>
>> Nitto R14 rack w/ tombstone: $110
>>
>> Caradice bag: $60
>>
>> Selle Anatomica X1, blemish model with sub 50 miles: $90
>>
>> Compass branded Antelope Hill 700x55 Extralight tires, bought used but 
>> very good condition and didn't use: $100
>>
>> Suntour Barcons: $40
>>
>> Dynaplug Racer Pro, new, Radavist version: $40
>>
>> WTB Riddler 700x37: Free
>>
>> Suntour Mountech FD: Free
>>
>> Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jrIvl43oMvh5l5upFxzTz413vaAJanh2?usp=sharing>
>>
>> Please respond off list, thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Caradice, Selle Anatomica X1, Rene Herse Antelope Hill, Suntour Barcons, etc

[Jared Wilson]

Handlebars and tires spoken for, everything else still available.

-jared

On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 10:41:41 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Just moved and need to clear out some stuff, *shipping not included*.
>
> Nitto Losco handlebars: Sold out at Riv, get 'em here for $80
>
> Nitto Tallux 80mm 25.4 Stem: $65
>
> Nitto/Specialized stems, 26.0: Black $20, Silver $25
>
> Nitto R14 rack w/ tombstone: $110
>
> Caradice bag: $60
>
> Selle Anatomica X1, blemish model with sub 50 miles: $90
>
> Compass branded Antelope Hill 700x55 Extralight tires, bought used but 
> very good condition and didn't use: $100
>
> Suntour Barcons: $40
>
> Dynaplug Racer Pro, new, Radavist version: $40
>
> WTB Riddler 700x37: Free
>
> Suntour Mountech FD: Free
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jrIvl43oMvh5l5upFxzTz413vaAJanh2?usp=sharing>
>
> Please respond off list, thanks!
>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto, Caradice, Selle Anatomica X1, Rene Herse Antelope Hill, Suntour Barcons, etc

[Jared Wilson]

Just moved and need to clear out some stuff, *shipping not included*.

Nitto Losco handlebars: Sold out at Riv, get 'em here for $80

Nitto Tallux 80mm 25.4 Stem: $65

Nitto/Specialized stems, 26.0: Black $20, Silver $25

Nitto R14 rack w/ tombstone: $110

Caradice bag: $60

Selle Anatomica X1, blemish model with sub 50 miles: $90

Compass branded Antelope Hill 700x55 Extralight tires, bought used but very 
good condition and didn't use: $100

Suntour Barcons: $40

Dynaplug Racer Pro, new, Radavist version: $40

WTB Riddler 700x37: Free

Suntour Mountech FD: Free

Photos 


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Sackville Backabike Bags

[Jared Wilson]

I realized they made a "mini" version that was more so intended for front/low 
mounting, I was actually hoping these were the "normal" size, so it's 
reassuring to hear they are.

All good on my end still!

-Jared

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2022, at 6:12 AM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> These are actually the slightly larger short stack panniers.  Are you ok with 
> that?  I have the original tags that came with the panniers, and I realized 
> this as I was packing them.
> 
> 
> Fair winds,
> 
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119
> 
>> On Fri, May 20, 2022, 3:28 PM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>> Landed some bags, thanks!
>> 
>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have some really nice maroon and royal blue Swift panniers from 2013 that 
>>> have only been used 4 times for day rides.  It's time for them to go.
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:05:05 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Hey group,
>>>> 
>>>> Looking for a pair of Sackville Backabike pannier bags for my new Susie.
>>>> 
>>>> Not super picky about color, open to mismatched even.
>>>> 
>>>> Please respond off list.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Jared
>>>> 
>>>> 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sackville Backabike Bags

[Jared Wilson]

Landed some bags, thanks!

On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have some really nice maroon and royal blue Swift panniers from 2013 
> that have only been used 4 times for day rides.  It's time for them to go.
>
> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 6:05:05 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey group,
>>
>> Looking for a pair of Sackville Backabike pannier bags for my new Susie.
>>
>> Not super picky about color, open to mismatched even.
>>
>> Please respond off list.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Sackville Backabike Bags

[Jared Wilson]

Hey group,

Looking for a pair of Sackville Backabike pannier bags for my new Susie.

Not super picky about color, open to mismatched even.

Please respond off list.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Jared Wilson]

They made it to HQ on Monday, I'd expect you could call and arrange pickup as 
of now, I'll be grabbing my new Susie on Saturday!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
> 
> Friday or Monday. Here it is Wednesday and I am getting anxious! I guess if 
> it doesn’t get here before we make our move back north, I can swing by and 
> pick it up on the way. Sure was hoping for a camp ride with it before we 
> leave but that window is closing in a hurry. Sure hope we hear something soon!
> 
>> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 8:49:12 AM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>> If any Gus owners want a black Nitto threadless stem to match that head 
>> badge, I have one for sale! The ad is buried a few months back maybe I’ll 
>> bump it up. 
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
 On May 16, 2022, at 4:57 AM, lconley  wrote:
 
>>> The rear dropouts have two less threaded mounts (there are three on the 
>>> original). Interesting how the smaller frame has the nicer scalloped 
>>> seatstays at the seat tube connection. Note that the larger frames also 
>>> have the extra water bottle mounts on the seat tube (both versions).
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Laing
>>> 
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:38:50 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
> The differences I can spot: 
> -The top tube decal has moved to the chain stay. 
> -The rear dropout is the new one that first appeared on on the Platypus, 
> replacing the old one that had the ugly tube squish connection. There is 
> a slight change to seat stay braze-ons positions probably due to this 
> change.
> -The Gus forks are no longer the complicated crowns of the original run 
> (though I think that changed mid - original batch when there was a 
> mistake with the forks sizes? my memory is fuzzy on this point.)
> Is there anything I have missed? I wonder if there are any secret geo 
> changes? Grant always seems to change something between batches, 
> historically.
 
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[RBW] Re: FREE - Thule top of car bike rack

[Jared Wilson]

Email sent!

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 3:18:39 PM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:

> I have an old Thule bike rack I would like to find a new home for.  It has 
> old style feet for cars with a rain gutter.  The cross bars are square 
> tubing.  I have to think different feet could be found for mounting on car 
> without gutters but I don't know.  It includes a mount for carrying a bike 
> upside down, a tandem mount (which can also be used for a single), and a 
> wheel mount.  I am in San Diego and do not want to ship.  If anyone is 
> seriously interested, I can try to dig up some pictures or drag it out and 
> take some.
>
> Bill S 
> San Diego
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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Jared Wilson]

I have two bikes with Altus RDs shifting 11-42t 9 speed with derailleur 
extenders, but I've heard of people squeaking by without one.

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 9:39:17 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:

> What about a 1x?
> How do I calculate wrap for that?
> I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to 
> replace with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only 
> do a 1x does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
>> one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
>> think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
>> stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
>> clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
>> RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
>> spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
>> I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
>> theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
>> that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
>> cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
>> the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
>> you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
>>
>> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers 
>> are off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would 
>> help split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? 
>>> Or is it only compatible with a wide double? 
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>> Samuel 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[Jared Wilson]

Laing,

The Volkswagen is from 1958, so post barndoor (3/50 thru 3/55) but still 
"early" but most standards.

Thanks for taking notice.

Jared

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-7 Miles wrote:

> Really good stuff Ariel! Lets get some rides in soon!
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:24:05 AM UTC-7 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Been meaning to post some pictures of our rides on film from the last 
>> year. Our first year living and running our own business in San Luis Obispo 
>> has been busy and hasn't awarded as much time to ride as we would like, but 
>> I am always thankful when we do make it out.
>>
>> Hope everyone is having a good week! I'd love to see some of your film 
>> pictures from rides!
>>
>> (All photos are taken on my Chinon 3001, a point and shoot SLR from the 
>> late 1980s/early 1990s). 
>>
>> [image: 85730014.jpeg]
>> Spring, 2021. Modesto, California. This one is from Easter weekend 2021 
>> when we picked up the Platy at Riv HQ! We waited patiently until we got the 
>> green light to come pick it up, and as always had such a nice time seeing 
>> our Riv employee friends! 
>>
>> [image: 04180001.jpeg]
>> Autumn, 2021. Berkeley, California. The last photo of Jared's Hunq before 
>> he and Alex stripped down their bikes and traded frames. 
>> [image: 04180004.jpeg]
>> The next morning before the mixte family went on their first ride.
>> [image: 04180009.jpeg]
>> First ride to the GF bakery in Oakland with the Cheviot! Jared is in a 
>> position I often do when bombing hills. It makes me feel like I'm flying 
>> and plays into the whimsical nature of riding a Rivendell. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB + WTT: Parts for Susie (WTB Pure V Saddle, Nitto R14/Shiny Rear Rack)

[Jared Wilson]

Ray,

Sounds like my posting wasn't clear, apologies for that.

 I have a Nitto R14 (w/ tombstone) in my possession and I'm looking to 
trade for someones Rivendell Shiny Rack.

Thanks for reaching out and hopefully someone else finds that information 
helpful!

Best,

Jared

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:30:33 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ray, sent you private e mail. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
> Crust has them in stock. 
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>> Trying to sort out the last bits for my incoming Susie.
>>
>> Looking to trade a Nitto R14 (w/ tombstone) for a Shiny Rear Rack.
>>
>> Also looking to purchase a WTB Pure V Saddle, preferably the classic all 
>> black version.
>>
>> Please respond off list, thanks!
>>
>> Jared
>>
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[RBW] WTB + WTT: Parts for Susie (WTB Pure V Saddle, Nitto R14/Shiny Rear Rack)

[Jared Wilson]

Hey gang,

Trying to sort out the last bits for my incoming Susie.

Looking to trade a Nitto R14 (w/ tombstone) for a Shiny Rear Rack.

Also looking to purchase a WTB Pure V Saddle, preferably the classic all 
black version.

Please respond off list, thanks!

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Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Platypus

[Jared Wilson]

Glad to hear you landed the NJ Platy! For a great deal none the less! Like 
Eric said, we want photos!

And now that you've secured one I feel that I can speak up to being the one 
who snagged the CA Platy, it was about a 12 hour round trip to pick it up 
but it's safe and sound in the shop now, I'll add photos only after you do, 
I don't want to take away from your excitement.
On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:43:50 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very cool! Congrats! On behalf of the group, we want pictures! 
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Winner!  
>> That's a really nice bike. Enjoy! 
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:38:28 AM UTC-7 rsb...@msn.com wrote:
>>
>>> I bought the Platy in NJ yesterday. Went up to take a look yesterday. 
>>> Offered him 3K cash and he bit. 
>>> Bike is like new, been ridden maybe 100 miles or so. It was my birthday, 
>>> so I treated myself.
>>> Came home, ate lunch, set seat post height and went for a ride. Ride 
>>> report to follow.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rene Herse 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge

[Jared Wilson]

Landed a pair, thanks Adam!

On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Gearing up for my new Susie and need some rubber.
>
> Looking for a pair of  RH 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge tires, 
> standard or extralight casing, in new or good-used condition.
>
> Please respond off list, thanks!
>
> Jared in SLO, CA
>

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[RBW] WTB: Rene Herse 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge

[Jared Wilson]

Hey all,

Gearing up for my new Susie and need some rubber.

Looking for a pair of  RH 700x55 Antelope Hill or Fleecer Ridge tires, 
standard or extralight casing, in new or good-used condition.

Please respond off list, thanks!

Jared in SLO, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

[Jared Wilson]

Corwin,

Very glad you've shared, it's always a joy to hear about Charlie, and as 
someone who is currently piecing together a Hubbuhubbuh I can't help but 
hope for some visuals of the aforementioned Hubbuh's to accompany the 
stories.

I'd love to see photos of both rigs next time the opportunity presents 
itself, not a lot of info on them out there so it would be nice to have 
some documentation of the two.

Best

Jared

On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 5:23:59 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> So here is a Rived out upright tadpole trike that I have been working on 
> for someone who has been having balance problems, Shiny Rear Rack, Huge 
> Wald with Captain Hook Basket Net, MKS RMX Sneaker pedals, Shimano Altus 
> M310 rear derailleur (the ultimate derailleur for 20" wheel cycles lots of 
> chain wrap with a short pulley cage), fatter Schwalbe tires (20x2 Big 
> apples on front, 20x2.15 Big Ben on the rear). Need to trim the tie-wraps.
>
> [image: Trike2.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:40:36 PM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Kinda late to this one, but if the point of the question is to call 
>> attention to the virtues of step-through frames for the aging cyclist I 
>> agree with the sentiment that a tadpole-style trike is a better choice for 
>> those with a whole host of musculoskeletal ailments and/or balance issues. 
>> Back to the wall, if I could only have one bike for the rest of my life 
>> it’d be an aluminum e-assist trike, which is about as anti-Riv as you can 
>> get.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 1:11 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> It's funny, but that question didn't have me thinking one bike to last 
>> through old age, but one bike to deal with whatever apocalypses the future 
>> might bring. I definitely need to ride & chill out more.
>>
>> For me it would be a steel frame mixte, that can fit 55mm tires, minimum 
>> 50mm tires, but without the longer chain stays Riv now prefers.
>>
>> I'm an urban dweller / rider and I need my bikes to fit in smaller rooms, 
>> easy to carry up & down stairwells, through narrower hallways, elevators, 
>> etc. If I lived in a house with a garage, chain stay length probably 
>> wouldn't be a problem. My MUSA Hunqapillar & MUSA AHH have smooth, stable 
>> rides, and while for me the longer chain stay lengths do make for a great, 
>> gliding ride, the longer chain stays are overkill, too long and a deal 
>> breaker.
>>
>> And no, a Brompton is NOT a substitute for a Rivendell, although I guess 
>> it qualifies as a steel mixte?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:50 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
>>> 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]
>>>
>>> If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a fun 
>>> question yesterday: 
>>>
>>> You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, and 
>>> what style - mixte or normal? 
>>>
>>> Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 
>>>
>>> What a question! The frame material and style is easy - I love a 
>>> Rivendell steel mixte, but only one? In the end, my #1 is my raspberry 
>>> Platypus, but I’d cry real tears if parted from my Clem L or my shopping 
>>> Platypus. Up until 2020 I was a one bike gal, but I am really savoring 
>>> having a trio of bikes set up for different enjoyments. I chose the 
>>> raspberry mixte as my One Bike Forever because it’s the most beautiful, 
>>> does whatever I want it to, and has heaps of sentimental value. 
>>>
>>> What would be your One Bike Forever? Do you have that bike or is it a 
>>> dream bike? Do you have a photo?
>>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Jared Wilson]

I appreciate the sentiment of this topic and am now on the hunt at local 
book shops for a couple different titles.

The Stanford Baccalaureate speech has been replayed a handful of times 
already, so thanks for that Erik.

I'd also like to throw into the ring The Pocket Thich Nhat Hahn 
, this 
compact book covers the basics and fits in just about anywhere with ease, 
including your saddlebag.

It's covers the basics and is very palatable, 10/10 worth keeping a copy 
around.

Best,
Jared


On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 7:26:41 AM UTC-8 robkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Erik,
> +1 on thanks for your thorough response. 
>
> We (cyclists, not necessarily this group) don't talk nearly enough about 
> the spiritual component of cycling, so thanks to John for starting this 
> thread. 
>
> Rob K. in MA
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 9:01:54 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Before you ride off to the unexpected, I ordered Fischer's book on the 
>> most un-Zen like Amazon as my local library apparently don't have this 
>> title. Thanks for the recommendations.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> "And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
>>> posts get pulled!"
>>>
>>> Often the most enjoyable rides are the ones that take us to unexpected 
>>> places. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 2:35:49 AM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>>
 The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
 people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
 Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
 book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
 over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
 many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  

 A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
 - "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
 years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
 writer and teacher.  
 -"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
 original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great 
 reflection 
 of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing 
 these 
 lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
 in my head.  :)

 If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
 because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
 Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
 speech at Stanford in 2014.  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs

 And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
 posts get pulled!
   

 On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just 
> Ride" for Zen?
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what 
>> you wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share 
>> something of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular 
>> approach to both Zen and riding a bike. 
>>
>> My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City 
>> in the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during 
>> this 
>> time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
>> view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the 
>> same 
>> energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
>> morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home 
>> again 
>> were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.
>>
>> Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
>> experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing 
>> as 
>> a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough 
>> hill, 
>> frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
>> stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
>> mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to 
>> the 
>> moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
>> 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with 

[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

[Jared Wilson]

Ariel is pretty happy with her Brooks B67s, but would opt out of springs if 
doing it again.

Jared

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 9:05:44 AM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:

> My wife like the B67 on her tiny 47cm Betty Foy and she uses the Nitto 
> lugged seat post.
>
> A lot rides on figuring out how wide your sit bones actually are. Mine are 
> wider than average so I'm not comfortable at all on B17's or C17's. I like 
> the wide Berthoud saddles, Aubisque & Vars, because I don't get thigh rub 
> but they're wide enough for my sit bones. 
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
>>
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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Jared Wilson]

Kai

I can't blame you, the love you have for your Rosco is what we should all 
strive for.

My goal is to have *one* bike and the Susie is the closest fit for the job, 
so I have an XL incoming (eventually...) and hopefully that will fill the 
void.

 I don't count the also incoming Hubbuhubbuh since that one is shared...

Jared, who will have a 60cm Cheviot available whenever the Susies land, in 
SLO, CA.





On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 1:02:50 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Jared,
> I do have two. After getting run down by a distracted driver I had a 
> thought that that event could've hurt my Rosco! (flesh heals, Roscos dont). 
> So when the opportunity presented itself, I jumped, paying over retail for 
> a little comfort.
> I'm about to put some 2.35 Ice Spiker Pros on one, so it's so very 
> necessary, but with all these cool new bikes on the horizon, I could maybe 
> see one getting bumped, eventually... 
> As Grant knew, there's a serious void in the super step through market, 
> hopefully many more will follow to capitalize on the want/need.
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kai,
>>
>> Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 
>>
>> Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
>> be happy to entertain the idea
>>
>> I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add 
>> my name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco 
>> Step Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 
>>
>> You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!
>>
>> Best
>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no 
>>> better bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of 
>>> mine (of Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>>>   
>>> Good luck, never give up...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
 like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
 Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
 off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 

 Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a 
 more pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is 
 my favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my 
 current 
 favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
 my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
 I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
 afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of 
 blue 
 but most likely the lighter shade.

 I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
 onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
 hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has 
 become 
 a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter 
 bar 
 will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
 boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
 top condition!

 I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
 (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
 would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
 designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
 one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
 love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
 step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
 hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
 might stand in the way of that plan).

 Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
 members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
 believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
 have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
 loving home!

 Thanks everyone,

 Joe Mullins

 Los Angeles, CA

 [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Jared Wilson]

Kai,

Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 

Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
be happy to entertain the idea

I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add my 
name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.

Joe,

Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco Step 
Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 

You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!

Best
Jared in SLO, CA

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
> bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
> Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>   
> Good luck, never give up...
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
>> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
>> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>>
>> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
>> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
>> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
>> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
>> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
>> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
>> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
>> but most likely the lighter shade.
>>
>> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
>> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
>> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
>> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
>> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
>> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
>> top condition!
>>
>> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
>> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
>> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
>> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
>> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
>> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
>> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
>> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
>> might stand in the way of that plan).
>>
>> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
>> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
>> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
>> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
>> loving home!
>>
>> Thanks everyone,
>>
>> Joe Mullins
>>
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires

[Jared Wilson]

Landed a pair, thanks everyone who responded.

Jared

On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 8:14:10 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey gang
>
> Looking for some RH Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 tires, preferably standard 
> casing but will entertain other variants.
>
> Please respond off list
>
> Thanks
>
> Jared in SLO, CA
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Shiny" rear rack?

[Jared Wilson]

Ariel has one on her Platypus and we're both happy with it, seems to be a 
good value.

Like Rivendell states, it's not Nitto quality finish but it's also not 
Nitto $$$.

Jared in SLO, CA
On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 9:39:46 AM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:

> I bought one for my Clem H and posted my impressions of it on this thread: 
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/u/0/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/_QuMo5rGQ7E/m/sO9CKEliAAAJ
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA
>
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:46:30 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> I have not found any opinions / reviews of this rear rack after searching 
>> here. Anyone using this rack? Looks a good value.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Jared Wilson]

The width was my largest reservation, but I rolled the dice and we'll see 
how it goes.

Glad to hear they're well received otherwise, looking forward to getting 
them on the new XL, been missing a Susie in my life for too long now.


On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 2:42:19 PM UTC-8 gre...@gmail.com wrote:

> I built my Appaloosa with JJJ bars. I like them a lot; however, I agree 
> with Larson.photo33 slightly wider would be desirable to me. My handlebar 
> wishes are very similar to yours and the JJJ is the closest I have found 
> that fit the bill, and I will be happy using them until something same but 
> wider comes along.  
>
> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 5:45:29 p.m. UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I put Sycip JJJ bars on my Black Mountain Cycles monstercross bike last 
>> year to convert the bike from drop bars, and have liked them very much. The 
>> sweep is right for me and I am able to get a second hand position on the 
>> curves, which I use often. They are close, but not quite perfect. I think 
>> if I was getting a custom Doom bar I would base it on the JJJ bar, but 
>> wider (about 710mm) with just a little more rise. I am building up a Joe 
>> Appaloosa as my first Rivendell and am going to give Billie bars a try. If 
>> this doesn’t work I will probably get the custom Doom bars based on the JJJ.
>> Randy
>>
>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 4:55:24 AM UTC-6 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Dave, It is really going to be a case of getting our hands on the bikes 
>>> and trying stuff out! Im pretty keen to try this Wright stem/Jones bar 
>>> combo but if it doesn't work I'll happily use a Billie or maybe even score 
>>> a Rons Back Bar in the next batch (in 18 months, lol).
>>>
>>> Eric, That JB bar has also been on my radar, it has a unique aesthetic. 
>>> Unfortunately it is cromo and I'm not sure I'd enjoy the very short main 
>>> grip area in actual use. It would fun to try nonetheless.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 Tires

[Jared Wilson]

Hey gang

Looking for some RH Snoqualmie Pass 700x44 tires, preferably standard 
casing but will entertain other variants.

Please respond off list

Thanks

Jared in SLO, CA

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[RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Jared Wilson]

Oh wow, if I found myself in that position I'd be making the same call. 

And I thought building bikes was expensive here in CA...

Jared

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 8:41:30 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> Jared, that JJJ bar looks *really* nice. I 100% agree that the finish on 
> the Jones bar is not up to snuff. Certainly not Nitto standards.
> I'm going to end up with the Jones bar I think because I can get one from 
> my LBS. Just for an example, that Analog stem is going to cost $81.87 to 
> ship to me. I have emailed them to see if they can ship cheaper than that 
> but with DHL being the only reliable international shippers these days that 
> is just how much it costs.
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[RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Jared Wilson]

I'm in the same boat for my incoming XL Susie.

Did a bunch of poking around on the web and after much waffling I picked up 
the Sycip/Nitto JJJ 
 bar to pair 
with a 60mm Nitto/Crust UI stem.

They seem to be comparable in shape to the Jones (which I was also 
considering) but maintain a more "finished" appearance which matters to me 
more than it should.

I used the same stem on my old L Susie with Tumbleweed Persuader bars with 
great results, but now with the XL I wanted a the bars to come back a 
little more than the Persuader provided, plus I missed their alloy bar 
release a couple days ago  -_- I also wanted something a bit narrower than 
the 800mm or 840mm offerings.

I too was watching the Crust Ortho bars but didn't pull the trigger because 
they seemed to come back to much in conjunction with the 60mm stem, tho I 
still might grab a pair to have around if/when they restock.

Jared in SLO, CA




On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> Eric, that is so good to hear. I have previous experience with the Jones 
> bar and know I like them, so it was just the stem limitation. I am now 
> officially excited for my Susie build.
>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Jared Wilson]

We're using a VO double on Ariel's Platypus with mixed results. 

Fitment is fine, but with a rear biased load the bike will always shift to 
the rear wheel touching instead of the front, resulting in the handlebars 
shifting to one side or another. 

Extreme caution must be used to keep the bike in an upright position, and 
for this reason we'll be switching to a single leg stand sooner than later.

If your bike is unloaded *or* has a front biased load I could see it 
working alright, just not worth the hassle in our case.

Best
Jared

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 10:27:43 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> My double-leg Pletscher kickstand wouldn't fit on the my Platy kickstand 
> plate. I ended up with a BV adjustable leg single-leg kickstand (from 
> Amazon). It works OK but the mounting bolt keeps loosening up.  I'll try 
> some more loctite on the mounting bolt to see if that helps.
> Has anyone tried the Velo Orange double kickstand?
>
> Tom 
>

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[RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

[Jared Wilson]

Wow Jason, that looks smoking! 

Great take on PG/SG, can't wait to see it built up again.

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Funny you should mention that Willet... I just got home from picking the 
> Bombadil up after a couple months away getting reborn... 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 29 December 2021 at 09:30:34 UTC-8 wille...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  Looking 
>> forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be beautifully 
>> photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails bridge in the 
>> backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).
>>
>> Willet M.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:32:19 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I know I've been lacking on adventure content on the Bombadil the past 
>>> couple months. This is actually because the Bombadil is not available to 
>>> ride right now... more on that in the new year but it's a good thing.  
>>>
>>> But this past weekend I had a lot of good experiences with the Hillborne 
>>> - there was a low-key organized gravel ride "CXmas" happening on the 
>>> Sunday, but the weather looked terrible, so I chose to get out for a 
>>> long-ish, road-ish ride on Saturday. 75km total with about 15km of gravel 
>>> paths. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211211_211628193.jpg]
>>> [image: PXL_20211211_214339886.jpg]
>>>
>>> But then I decided to get up early and go on the gravel ride anyway 
>>> despite being a bit stiff and sore from the previous day. In my mind, I was 
>>> going to ride to the meet point (coffee shop about 10km from home) and play 
>>> it by ear. 
>>>
>>> The ride started with a series of rooty, steep trails that connected 
>>> through the neighborhood to the start of the forest. The route then 
>>> followed a network of trails up the Seymour valley, which is the same 
>>> valley featured in nearly all my Bombadil photos. The Hillborne was on 
>>> extralight Babyshoe slicks, which are certainly a bit under-gunned for 
>>> these trails but keeping mindful of that, no issues. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_181408181.jpg]
>>>
>>> The rain started at the start of the ride, and became heavier as the 
>>> ride went on. At the ~20km mark, the rain turned to snow. It snowed hard, 
>>> and the snow was wet. It was a particularly slippery snow, but the gravel 
>>> underneath provided enough traction most of the time - definitely had to be 
>>> careful though; spinning out when trying to pedal up hills reminded me 
>>> there wasn't a lot of traction available. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_200359035.jpg]
>>>
>>> By the time we reached the lake at the end of the valley, there was 
>>> about 3" of snow on the ground and traction was so bad that even on flat 
>>> ground, my pedaling did not result in forward motion at all. My fenders 
>>> packed with the wet snow to the point that my wheels wouldn't spin when I 
>>> pushed the bike, they just dragged. I was 30 km from home at this point and 
>>> 10km of it would be in these conditions. Wooops. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_201142090.jpg]
>>>
>>> But thankfully, even though I was the only member of the group with 
>>> slicks (and with tight fitting fenders), the group agreed that the paved 
>>> path was too slippery to ride and we took the gravel service road (not open 
>>> to the public, but given the safety risks of the parkway, we felt we had a 
>>> good argument if we got stopped); and I broke all the snow out of the 
>>> fender with a stick (which I had to use once more before we got far enough 
>>> out that conditions improved). 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_201627208.jpg]
>>>
>>> A good adventure with the "road bike" for sure!  I sure as heck love the 
>>> Hillborne. I've had it 25 months now, and am nearing 6000 km on it which is 
>>> the most mileage I've had on any bike - and I am as sure as ever that I 
>>> would never sell this bike! There has never been a bike I could say that 
>>> with such conviction before. 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Large Susie

[Jared Wilson]

I noticed it last night, as well as DG and LO in XL still available.

Get 'em while you can folks!



On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:32:29 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Has anyone noticed the large Dark Gold Susie that is back on the Riv site 
> for sale? As fast as they went it seems crazy it hasn’t sold unless nobody 
> has checked! Already got mine :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Jared Wilson]

I had a Pass and Stow 5 rail on my Susie and didn't like the way it felt, 
the load seemed to too far forward. 

Much happier with a Nitto Marks Rack for that application, but that's just 
my preference, YMMV.
On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Actually, I plan to put the same Pass and Stow rack on! 
>
> On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 6:39:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Great pictures Kelvin! Good to know about preferring a rear load. Though 
>> I kinda suspected that with the chainstays. Maybe just low riders up front? 
>> I was hoping to put a basket up front for around town at least, guess we 
>> will see!
>>
>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 4:05:31 AM UTC-8 kelv...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, I live in Singapore. Sorry for the long delay, hope the photos 
>>> make it through. This was right when I first built it up, I've since 
>>> swapped out the stem for a slightly shorter one (100mm-80mm) and added a 
>>> Happisack, which led me to an interesting observation of how the Gus Boots 
>>> much prefers a rear load as compared to a front load.
>>>
>>> It's mostly paved roads around here in Singapore, we only have a few 
>>> trails around, one of which requires taking a 15min boat ride out to a 
>>> small island, but I am curious about 2.6" tires on the Gus, will definitely 
>>> try those someday but for now am enjoying the extremely quiet and supple 
>>> ride quality of the RH Umtanum Ridges.
>>>
>>> Kelvin 
>>>
>>> [image: gus 1.jpg][image: gus 2.jpg][image: gus 4.jpg][image: gus 3.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:39:23 AM UTC+8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; don't 
 know your name.)

 And please post the statutorily required photos!

 Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in the 
 ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to be 
> the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the world 
> and 
> Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a disc 
> brake 
> bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle any trail 
> I 
> come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and more. It's a 
> strong, 
> beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side compared to my other low 
> trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  but man it's just 
> such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do contribute greatly 
> to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity Cliffhangers with a 
> front 
> dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on them. They're only 
> 2.2" but work well for the mixed terrain in my country. Single track took 
> some getting used to, which had nothing to do with the bike but the rider 
> I'm sure. :) I have a friend who owns the Susie and I think you can't go 
> wrong with either, but I think the Gus is just... invincible. 
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Re: [RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

[Jared Wilson]

I got my start in cycling back in early 2006 riding fixed gears, and I 
burnt through countless frames and configurations, always with extreme drop 
from saddle to bars.

After some health stuff came up I fell off with cycling for many years 
before picking up a 1991 MB-2 from the original owner in Saratoga.

It sat around for a couple years before I really started to use it, adding 
Boscos, a B17, and other Rivendell kit along the way.

Finally, cycling was comfortable(ish)!!!

Soon after getting this MB-2 together we found another 89 MB-2 for my 
parter that we kitted very similarly but we both knew there was more to be 
desired.

Fast forward to our first visit to mecca and a quick test ride, myself on a 
Gus and Ariel on a Cheviot, and we'd finally seen the light.

The path was clear and we knew what we had to do, first myself with a 56cm 
Susie and Ariel followed with a 55cm Platypus.

I eventually found myself wishing I'd done a 59cm Susie instead so with 
that thought in my head I began to try other options with the notion of 
buying a 59cm when the next batch landed, and since then I've tried a 58cm 
SimpleOne, a 62cm Hunqapillar, and most recently a 60cm Cheviot.

The Cheviot is my favorite *ride* of those 3, but I still find myself 
longing for another Susie, so on Wednesday I'll be preordering a 59cm 
*color TBD*

I love reading how we all took different roads to get to the same place, 
and it's a damn fine place I'm happy to share it with you all!

Jared in SLO, CA

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 11:28:44 AM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> I’m enjoying these responses immensely, mostly because I knew nothing 
> about Riv or Grant until after I rode my friend’s Sam in 2010.
>
> So I was initially surprised by the number of folks here who have come up 
> from Bridgestone through Grant to Rivendell.
> I shouldn’t have been surprised.  My LBS owner has his RB-1 hanging on the 
> wall in his showroom. 
>
> There’s a wonderful coffee table book called “Japanese Steel” by William 
> Bevington and Scott Ryder that explains the Japanese response to the 70’s 
> bicycle boom, which includes Bridgestone, and anything that includes 
> Bridgestone mentions Grant Petersen.
> If you are into “bicycle porn” and want to see where Bridgestone before 
> Riv fits in, I recommend it. The illustrations are awesome. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot at Community Cycles in CO

[Jared Wilson]

Mike, message sent!

Jared

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 10:08:37 AM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for posting this. I wrote to the shop and they were kind enough to 
> respond on their closed day. It sold already this weekend. Did anyone here 
> get it?
>
> If anyone else has a 60 Cheviot they'd like to sell let me know! :) 
>
> Mike 
> Austin TX
>
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 12:29:53 AM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Whilst perusing the internet I saw a large Cheviot in the inventory at 
>> Community Cycles in Boulder, CO.
>>
>> https://communitycycles.org/bike-shop/used-bikes-for-sale/
>>
>> No affiliation or idea if it’s still there. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Hunq

[Jared Wilson]

Wow Adam, that thing is dreamy!

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 9:08:14 PM UTC-8 ocea...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a 53cm Hunq. I believe it's the most recently built Hunqapillar, 
> built in 2019 by Steve Rex in Sacramento as a kind of one of thing- 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/ByGJjRtn1ED/
>
> It's a bit of an amalgamation of some of their most recent frame designs 
> and I'm just smitten. It's become my only bike (other than the FS MTB and 
> the family hauler) and I am never left wanting. The Hunq owners club is a 
> good one to be a part of.
>
> Adam in Berkeley
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-8 Geir Bentzen wrote:
>
>> I have a 62 cm green Hunq that I bought from Riv in 2014. I believe I was 
>> told the frame came from Waterford at that time. Ordered in April 2014 and 
>> delivered July 10. I have Nitto Noodles on and use the bike as much as 
>> possible. It's a pleasant ride, though I may change the Noodles out to 
>> something more upright as I grow older. I am in my early sixties already.
>>
>> Geir
>>
>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 2:59:40 PM UTC-5 mkernan...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe Rivs last run of Hunqs( Green) looked like a great bike but 
>>> they did a really short run of them.The chainstay was an in between 
>>> length( 49cm) of earlier Rivs and the current longer stays.  It had less BB 
>>> drop ( 71mm) and a decent stack/ reach ratio where drop bars were a little 
>>> more feasible.  And it was offered in 700c and 650b in the 59cm size which 
>>> was pretty neat. And possibly( I can’t remember)  no diagatube in the 59 
>>> size which turned some people off,  not me though. Another run of Hunqs 
>>> would probably get a lot of interest.-Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 7:11 AM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I've got a 2015 grey/kidney bean 58 hunq that I bought new and I'm sure 
>>> that one was built in Taiwan. I remember cause I was talking to Grant when 
>>> I ordered it and he assured me the quality was equal to the Toyo-built 
>>> bikes. It's still a great bike - wherever it came from!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 8:28:14 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>>>
 I've always wondered if my Hunqapillar was a Taiwan model and I thought 
 this thread might give me the answer, but my top headtube lug seems to be 
 the same as yours, but the lower one is different.  I thought the orange 
 ones all came in one batch, but maybe that's not the case?  

 [image: 20190422_062154.jpg]

 On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 8:30:01 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:

> [image: IMG_0774.JPG]
> That is the lug work and paint from the Waterford production run. 
>
> Marc
>
> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 7:03:29 PM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to share the only bike I think will be in my stable for 
>> ever. It's a 54cm Hunq. I'm pretty sure it's Taiwan made, since it 
>> doesn't 
>> have Waterford etched into the drop out. I've been working on this bike 
>> for 
>> 18 months to get it here, and I'm finally happy with where I've landed. 
>> The 
>> only immediate changes might be... changing the 'tross bars to Billie 
>> bars. 
>> It's also set up for quick swaps in case I want to use Bullmoose bars 
>> that 
>> day. 
>>
>> Enjoy. Happy to answer questions. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4909.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Jared Wilson]

I emailed on the Clem L last night, still no response.

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:23:04 PM UTC-8 ericyue...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Jesus Christ, I do not need another bike but that Clem is such an insane 
> deal I feel like it's offensive for me not to buy it. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:25:17 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Simon wrote:
>
>> Please someone pick up this beautiful and large Clem L before I do 
>> something I regret 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendaleclem-smith-jrlike/7417901386.html
>>
>> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 54cm 2021 Joe Appaloosa in orange. Built by Crust Bikes in Richmond, VA. 
>>> $4,000. No relations. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255148243764?hash=item3b68053b34:g:nKMAAOSwgf5hTSFP
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 12:01:49 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 58cm Rambo in Huntsville

 https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html
 No connection,
 Edwin

 On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 7:28:29 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Oooh...really pretty 60cm double TT Sam with canti posts in Iowa City. 
> No affiliation with the seller here.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255258634855?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l1120=7=osgood=5ea56e44de8e4dc99a63e45079d3039c=43091514547=RU=-1%7E1=20211203050755=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>
> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 7:30:33 AM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>
>> Nice 58cm Sam with Dyno on eBay. It's in the Bay area...with all the 
>> extras, I think it's a great deal. No affiliation with the seller here. 
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284548084495?mkevt=1=0=e11021.m43.l1120=7=osgood=87a9e36b60454493938906df70f8a1ec=43091514547=RU=-1%7E1=20211130055429=11021=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 6:04:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> 62cm Sam
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-62cm-sam-hillborne-new/7385309583.html
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

[Jared Wilson]

Both bike will do what you're looking for, and you wont come near the 
limitations of either.

I had a Susie and my fiancee has a Platy, both bikes handle the type of 
riding you describe with ease.

The Susie is more confidence inspiring off road and demands a larger tire 
to take full advantage of its potential.

The Platy has a more sophisticated look and handles on road riding in a way 
that leaves you wanting for nothing.

I didn't love the way a large load felt on the front of the Susie, where as 
the Plat handles similar loads with ease.

All said I'll be getting another Susie this round, one size up from my 
previous size L.

I'll also be keeping a close eye on the next bath of Platy's as well, I 
feel there is enough difference between the two to justify owning both, tho 
I'm trying to keep it down to just one bike at a time.

Best of luck with whatever you choose

Jared in SLO





On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:57:40 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Joe. My hunch is that you are right. All Rivendell bikes are 
> multi-functional with the right components. I pulled the 2.2 tire size out 
> of my head so that it would become a non-factor when making the comparison. 
> I thought it was the largest Platypus could handle without fenders. Still 
> curious to hear about ride quality from real world experience. Anyone 
> riding a Susie for an afternoon over pavement? Or picking their Platypus 
> for off-road trails?
>
> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 10:38:02 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hi Laura, welcome!
>>
>> Tire size may be the decider for you since you mentioned 2.2. The max 
>> listed for Platy is 50mm, which works out to about 1.95 inches. The Susie 
>> goes to 2.8 so is definitely the way to go if you wants lots of air between 
>> trail and rim. 
>>
>> As for the question of which is a better all-rounder, the answer is both! 
>> Just about every Riv ever made - and certainly most of the current models - 
>> will happily do all the riding you've described, so I think you'll need to 
>> weigh other factors: tire size, color, lugs or fillet joints, higher 
>> toptube or lower (I'm into lower), and availability. Heck, you can choose 
>> based on the name you like best! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 7:21:57 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the Platy feedback… Do I want to wait 6 to 9 months more 
>>> for a bike? No! But, I will be building up a frame and parts are 
>>> back-ordered as well, so buying a frame now will still involve waiting to 
>>> get all of the components. Although, I am trying to make my mind up fast 
>>> incase I decide on a Susie.
>>>
>>> I love the build of both bikes. I am not sure I want a tig welded 
>>> version. Nothing wrong with tig welded bikes, but I already have one in the 
>>> vintage MTB category.
>>>
>>> My theoretical question is: if components and tires are the same,  how 
>>> do the two bikes ride on pavement and easy trails? Is one of the bikes a 
>>> better all-rounder???
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 9:07:15 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
  Am I making this up, or is there going to be a Platypus style frame 
 that will be tig welded and a little stouter tubing coming as well? Would 
 that possibly be something that would fit the bill for Laura? 

 Ben, who could be imagining things, in Omaha

 Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 5, 2021, at 8:01 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi Laura! 

 I have a Platypus and am a big fan of it. I have not ridden a Susie, 
 but I do have a Clem (which is in the same Hillibike category as Susie). I 
 won’t speak to trail riding because I don’t do a lot of it, and my bikes 
 are set up differently. But I see Blue Lug videos showing guys riding 
 Platys all over the darn countryside, so it’s probably doable. 

 My point would be this: How soon are you looking to get a bike? Because 
 there is a shipment of incoming Susies heading to Rivendell soon, like 
 this 
 month, but there will be no Platypuses until middle to late 2022. 
 (Rivendell says May 2022, but their bikes always seem a couple/few months 
 delayed. Last year they said Platys would come October, then November, and 
 so on and so forth. They actually came in April or May of the next year.)

 So, if you want a bike soon, get a Susie. If you want to wait, Platys 
 will arrive later in 2022.
 L

 On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 5:08:15 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hello, I am new to this group and still trying to decide which 
> Rivendell bike will be my first. I am torn between the Platypus and a 
> Susie 
> Longbolts. I hope that there are people here that have ridden both, or 
> have 
> turned one of them into their all-around, multi-terrain bike. Ideally, I 
> would LOVE to have both, but 

[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Jared Wilson]

89 PBH, 6'1", had a large and always wished it was a bit bigger, will get 
XL if/when I get another one.

Jared

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 3:47:08 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:

> What type of handlebar do you anticipate using, and how upright or 
> leaned-forward do you like to be?  The answers to those questions might 
> help guide advice.  I'm 6'-2"/87cm PBH and on a 56 - the first time in a 
> long while where I was NOT between sizes, so very happy.
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 10:26:40 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus 
>> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though my 
>> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a 
>> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes 
>> similarly tall people picked.
>>
>> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge of 
>> the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>>
>> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City OH
>> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
>> but still old schoolish 
>>  
>> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

[Jared Wilson]

Nice work Jason.
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 11:45:44 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I spent the afternoon and evening trawling the full set of Riv Readers, as 
> well as old copies of the Rivendell website via archive.org (it was 
> veloworks.com/rivendell first, then it was rivendellbicycles.com, then 
> moved to the current home of rivbike.com - I've perused probably upwards 
> of 100's of snapshots of these sites today).  
>
> I don't have nearly as deep of experience with Rivendell as some of you so 
> I wanted to run this timeline by y'all and see if you can point out 
> omissions or errors in my timeline. There are a lot of permutations of some 
> of these models of course - I have pretty detailed notes about where each 
> model was made (including many which went through a few shops) in addition 
> to the timeline, which I plan to include in whatever final form this 
> takes.  
>
> Please let me know if you see something missing or incorrect!  Note: I 
> left Protovelo's out because I'm not considering prototypes to be relevant; 
> I might be missing some Rosco's but only the Bubbe 51 and Road 55.5 are 
> ones I have any info on. The step-thru version seems to have snuck past my 
> research so far. 
>
>  [image: PXL_20211127_062150509.jpg]
>
>
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Re: [RBW] OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Jared Wilson]

Patrick

Apologies for using the wrong name above, I was in the dentist waiting room and 
had a brain fart.

Best

Jared 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Hey Paul
> 
> I had good luck with downloading the Pizza Tape files from Google Drive, not 
> for purchase but available for download for free via a fellow deadhead.
> 
> Best
> 
> Jared
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Correction: CLiced many times on Download Your Music and it just refreshes 
>> the page; nothing happens.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:27 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> I just purchased Shady Grove; "save to cloud." OK. Sales-completed window 
>>> has option to check for "download your music." I click on it, I get 
>>> Amazon's G-d Amazon Music window offering me a free trial.No sign of my 
>>> purchase.
>>> 
>>> Looked on Manage Your Content and Devices. All the books show, no music.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> It's only $10, but still, *$#^$&^#)+
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:20 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>> Spoke too soon. Amazon wants to save the album to the cloud. I want to 
>>>> save it to my hard drive. Any thoughts on this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 10:25 PM  wrote:
>>>>> Both of those albums are available digitally from Amazon. About $10 each. 
>>>>> Amazon usually sells their MP3 files at about 256 mbps. Not audiophile 
>>>>> quality but decent. These files are able to be downloaded to your pc or 
>>>>> streamed through their music app. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> High quality FLAC downloads are likely available from High Def Tracks and 
>>>>> likely at a higher cost. I’ve never used them but many on the music 
>>>>> forums I read do with good results.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.hdtracks.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert Tilley
>>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, 
>>>>>> not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell 
>>>>>> current formats are is something I find confusing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
>>>>>> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there any secure and reliable source from which to pay online by PP 
>>>>>> or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, 
>>>>>> and have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store 
>>>>>> on my computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
>>>>>> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>>>> 
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Re: [RBW] OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Paul

I had good luck with downloading the Pizza Tape files from Google Drive, not 
for purchase but available for download for free via a fellow deadhead.

Best

Jared

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> Correction: CLiced many times on Download Your Music and it just refreshes 
> the page; nothing happens.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:27 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>> I just purchased Shady Grove; "save to cloud." OK. Sales-completed window 
>> has option to check for "download your music." I click on it, I get Amazon's 
>> G-d Amazon Music window offering me a free trial.No sign of my purchase.
>> 
>> Looked on Manage Your Content and Devices. All the books show, no music.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> It's only $10, but still, *$#^$&^#)+
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:20 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> Spoke too soon. Amazon wants to save the album to the cloud. I want to save 
>>> it to my hard drive. Any thoughts on this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 10:25 PM  wrote:
 Both of those albums are available digitally from Amazon. About $10 each. 
 Amazon usually sells their MP3 files at about 256 mbps. Not audiophile 
 quality but decent. These files are able to be downloaded to your pc or 
 streamed through their music app. 
 
 High quality FLAC downloads are likely available from High Def Tracks and 
 likely at a higher cost. I’ve never used them but many on the music forums 
 I read do with good results.
 
 https://www.hdtracks.com/
 
 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Nov 7, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>> 
> 
> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, 
> not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell 
> current formats are is something I find confusing.
> 
> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
> 
> Is there any secure and reliable source from which to pay online by PP or 
> CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
> 
> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, and 
> have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on my 
> computer and on a separate hard drive. 
> 
> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
> 
> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> 
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Jared Wilson]

Found via /Gratefuldead on Reddit

Pizza Tapes Google Drive Download 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1-aU7_bfPZHOvxd-Vd9Sj_PQhCa8gvFzj>
On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 6:04:11 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Patrick, 
>
> You understand correctly, which is the main downside to their service.
>
> I'll keep you posted if I figure out a means of obtaining either album in 
> MP3 format.
>
> Best
>
> Jared in SLO
>
> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 5:24:33 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Jared. As I understand Spotify - and please correct me if I am 
>> wrong - you don't own the music you get through them. 
>>
>> I want to own my own files so that if the vendor disappears from the face 
>> of the earth, I still have full access and control of the music.
>>
>> If Spotify lets you download your own files and then leave Spotify behind 
>> forever after, I'll be interested to hear more.
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> Have you given Spotify a shot? 
>>>
>>> You can "download" albums and songs for offline listening, plus lots 
>>> available for streaming when you're in service.
>>>
>>> Not the same as having it on a hard drive but pretty nice for when 
>>> you're going down the road feeling bad.
>>>
>>> Love The Pizza Tapes and the lore behind them, and Shady Grove is a 
>>> masterpiece as well, then again anything Garcia and Grisman touch is bound 
>>> to be gold.
>>>
>>> -Jared in SLO, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, 
>>>> not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell 
>>>> current formats are is something I find confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
>>>> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>>>>
>>>> Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by 
>>>> PP or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>>>>
>>>> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, 
>>>> and have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on 
>>>> my computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>>>>
>>>> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
>>>> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>>>>
>>>> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Patrick Moore
>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Jared Wilson]

Patrick, 

You understand correctly, which is the main downside to their service.

I'll keep you posted if I figure out a means of obtaining either album in 
MP3 format.

Best

Jared in SLO

On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 5:24:33 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Jared. As I understand Spotify - and please correct me if I am 
> wrong - you don't own the music you get through them. 
>
> I want to own my own files so that if the vendor disappears from the face 
> of the earth, I still have full access and control of the music.
>
> If Spotify lets you download your own files and then leave Spotify behind 
> forever after, I'll be interested to hear more.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Have you given Spotify a shot? 
>>
>> You can "download" albums and songs for offline listening, plus lots 
>> available for streaming when you're in service.
>>
>> Not the same as having it on a hard drive but pretty nice for when you're 
>> going down the road feeling bad.
>>
>> Love The Pizza Tapes and the lore behind them, and Shady Grove is a 
>> masterpiece as well, then again anything Garcia and Grisman touch is bound 
>> to be gold.
>>
>> -Jared in SLO, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, 
>>> not HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell 
>>> current formats are is something I find confusing.
>>>
>>> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
>>> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>>>
>>> Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by 
>>> PP or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>>>
>>> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, 
>>> and have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on 
>>> my computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>>>
>>> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
>>> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>>>
>>> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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[RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Jared Wilson]

Have you given Spotify a shot? 

You can "download" albums and songs for offline listening, plus lots 
available for streaming when you're in service.

Not the same as having it on a hard drive but pretty nice for when you're 
going down the road feeling bad.

Love The Pizza Tapes and the lore behind them, and Shady Grove is a 
masterpiece as well, then again anything Garcia and Grisman touch is bound 
to be gold.

-Jared in SLO, CA



On Sunday, November 7, 2021 at 4:32:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I grew up with vinyl LPs and transitioned to cassettes (magnetic tape, not 
> HG) and CDs easily enough, but navigating MP3 or whateverthehell current 
> formats are is something I find confusing.
>
> I'd like to get, in particular, these 2 albums: Jerry Garcia and David 
> Grisman, "Shady Grove," and (ditto), The Pizza Tapes. 
>
> Is there any *secure and reliable source* from which to pay online by PP 
> or CC and download the whole albums to one's computer?
>
> Not long ago I bought the Complete Works of JS Bach on 142 or so CDs, and 
> have had to beg and pay people to convert them to files I can store on my 
> computer and on a separate hard drive. 
>
> In anticipated appreciation of all y'alls help, I append this, which 
> sufficiently proves the reasonableness of my desire.
>
> Note: This track is pure "just ride" music.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91XCNix2tg
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Jared Wilson]

*Just* installed some 700x38 Gravelking Sk's on a project bike. 

Haven't had a chance to ride it yet but they seem like a nice product, 
especially for the price.

Measured in at 35.5 on some old Super Champion rims.

-Jared





On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Some good suggestions coming in! 
>
> I'm VERY interested in the Barlow Pass in the endurance casing. 
> Aesthetically speaking, the RH tires can't be topped. But...I think I might 
> go with the Gravelkings when it comes time. 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:24 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Schwalbe Marathon Racers come in a 38, which will be more like a 36 or so 
>> depending on the rim. I ride the 35's, 33.3 actual on 19mm ID rims, and 
>> they ride very nicely, and they last. The only other tire I had that lasted 
>> like these is the Big Ben raceguard ones. I ride mine @35-40 rear, 30-35 
>> front. 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 4:48:38 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Panaracer Gravelking Slicks in 700x38c!
>>>
>>> Patch in NYC
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 2:29:00 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 38mm Barlow Pass fit fine with fenders on my 62cm Sam with sidepull 
 brakes.  44mm Snoqualmie Pass only fit when the fenders were removed.

 On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-7 Paul Richardson 
 wrote:

> that's a great looking bike.  congrats!
>
> i swapped out dura-ace barends for silver1 (downtube) shifters on my 
> homer without issue.  totally straightforward.  if you do so and are 
> looking to rehome the shimanos, i'll take 'em off your hands!
>
> in my experience, you can't go wrong with the 38mm rene herse tires, 
> especially if you're looking to zippy it up and complement the atlantis.  
> they'd almost certainly feel livelier than the schwalbes.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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Re: [RBW] Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Jared Wilson]

After seeing a couple photos on Riv's IG I was really hoping we'd 
eventually get a trip report, and boy have you've delivered!

Cheers!

Jared in SLO


On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 8:50:07 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Man, I love this. Rad.
>
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 08:32, Joseph  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc
>
> took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
> Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential order.
>
> The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at best 
> planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt and 
> gravel as possible.  
> We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
> plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
> front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
> skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
> begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
> herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and has 
> already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
> Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking portion 
> because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended up 
> skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
> crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
> there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
> along the way towards Yakima.  
>
> We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If you 
> didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per capita.  
> The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to be. We 
> rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
> towards Bingen, WA.
> After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the Columbia 
> River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to Portland 
> and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  After 
> about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping on his 
> floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but due to 
> heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday and do 
> some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing the 
> Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
> the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our bikes 
> to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
> Oakland area. 
> We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day expect 
> one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. Diablo.  
> After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and took BART 
> back to our friends place in Oakland.
> After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on August 
> 12th.
> The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can go 
> where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
> carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
> worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  
>
> -Joseph
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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack

[Jared Wilson]

Back on the hunt for a Nitto/Rivendell RBW52F Basket Rack, please respond 
off list if you have one available.

I have a Marks Rack to offer as partial trade if that means anything to 
you, or it will be for sale when the Basket Rack is acquired.

Thanks :)

Jared in SLO

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Correction, group member Jeffery is gonna get Huston's RBW52F.
>
> Congrats Jeffery!
>
> -Jared
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 11:31:24 AM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for reaching out!
>>
>> I bit the bullet and ordered a Pass and Stow 5 Rail for my Susie.
>>
>> I'm also in contact with Huston about the RBW52F for another build we're 
>> working on, lets see what happens!
>>
>> -Jared
>>
>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 2:38:15 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Simon wrote:
>>
>>> If you're interested in David's recommendation I have I'm not using I'd 
>>> be happy to pass along. Only caveat is I'm in the Bay Area and the 
>>> dimensions mean it would be probably not worth it to ship. It is a 
>>> fantastic rack.
>>>
>>> Jeremy in Oakland
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 12:45:44 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might consider this SOMA rack. May be bigger than you want, but way 
>>>> cheaper.
>>>> >  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack-deluxe-stnless.html
>>>> Good price at about $115 with shipping. 
>>>> Or, the same but not stainless. $20 less. --
>>>> >  https://www.perennialcycle.com/porteur-rack.html
>>>> Either give more attachment points (5) than the Nitto (3).
>>>>
>>>> David (I have, and like, the 52F) Lipsky
>>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 7:07:56 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a Nitto RBW52F Basket Rack
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you have one you wouldn't mind rehoming
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jared
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Jared Wilson]

I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it 
was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available 
info. 

This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the 
bikes original form, it draws a clear line on what's what.

The info is no longer of much use to me other than educational, but I'm 
glad to see a more in depth timeline now being established.

Jared in SLO

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:05:21 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> That Harris page is interesting.  It shows a 58 cm (my size) as having a 
> 59 cm TT.  I have a couple of Atlantis brochures from around when I got 
> mine (2003) that show a 58 with a 58.5 TT.  I can understanding rounding 
> 58.5 up to 59.  I just measured mine @ 56 cm or maybe 56.5 cm, center to 
> center, head tube to seat tube, along the slope of the top tube.  No way to 
> finagle to 58.  
>
> The point is Rivendell made running changes that were fairly incremental & 
> non-consequential.  The big re-design was going to longer chainstays a few 
> years ago.  The brochures are un-dated, and both list the 68 cm size that 
> Harris says "coming 2001".  Whereas other manufacturers would use subtle 
> geo changes to call it a "new & improved" bike (along with the latest fad 
> color), Rivendell stuck with the same name & paint scheme and kept 
> improving the basic products.  
>
> It would be fun to have a list of geometries by serial number but that 
> info is probably non-existent.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:01:12 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> I'll check it out Scott.
>>
>> I just got off the phone with James at Rivendell and we agreed that one 
>> of the largest changes from the first batch of MIT to the current batch of 
>> MIT is that the 56 cm was 650B and the current 55cm is 700c. The first 
>> batch of MIT had a shorter top tube as well making a drop bar more 
>> feasible. The new batch of the MIT as you can see drop the 56 cm altogether.
>>
>> I'm going to shoot an email to Grant Just to try to get a better year 
>> understanding of each iteration and maybe some of the geometry changes he 
>> made. We'll see this will be an interesting exchange.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:53 PM Scott G.  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Harris page has the specs on the first batch of Atlantis.
>>> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#tubing
>>> Geometry is a bit different in several of the sizes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:46:36 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend 
 (hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history. 

 http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html



 On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines 
> for the various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish 
> chain stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to 
> present.
>
> I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall 
> reading that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline 
> but 
> have no idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model? 
>
> Hugh n LA
>
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Short version, others here will know more details:
>>
>> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. 
>> Later iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were 
>> built 
>> by Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had 
>> mostly-flat toptubes. 
>>
>> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included 
>> slightly longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels. 
>>
>> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version 
>> with much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from 
>> the 
>> Toyo/Waterford bikes. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>>
>>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for 
>>> a purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted 
>>> evolution of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  
>>> Where 
>>> it was made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on 
>>> the 
>>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find 
>>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto/Riv Billie Bars

[Jared Wilson]

Bump, still Billie-curious!

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 10:10:59 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey Gang!
>
> Looking to give the Nitto/Riv Billie bars a shot, please feel free to 
> contact me off list if you've got a pair available.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Jared
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto/Riv Billie Bars

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Gang!

Looking to give the Nitto/Riv Billie bars a shot, please feel free to 
contact me off list if you've got a pair available.

Thanks :)

Jared

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[Jared Wilson]

"What's the point of being in paradise and be in a hurry to pass by/leave ? 
I didn't realize that until I just stopped. Time, distance, space ... to 
heck with all of it ! BEING is where it's at and enjoying It to the 
fullest." - Garth

I needed that right now, thank you.

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:02:18 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> As Nick mentioned, 24/36 is already very low and lower would be so slow 
> and/or unstable to keep a straight line that I'd ask myself "what the 
> point"? I'd rather walk up any such sections. I don't do it often but I've 
> done it in some places where the section of road/trail is very steep and 
> traction wonky. What's funny is in walking, I can even look around and 
> enjoy the scenery around here because those places here are always in the 
> woods. I've even walked down some steep sections for the view/relaxing and 
> to unplug from tunnel vision of navigating a line and braking on such 
> steep/irregular surfaces. What's the point of being in paradise and be in a 
> hurry to pass by/leave ? I didn't realize that until I just stopped. Time, 
> distance, space ... to heck with all of it ! BEING is where it's at and 
> enjoying It to the fullest.
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 2:10:13 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Hi all - 
>>
>> I acquired a 2021 Appaloosa over the summer and have been using it as my 
>> primary bike for the past few months. Despite the generous gearing (38x24 
>> in front, 11-36 9-speed in rear), I am finding myself grinding 
>> significantly on sustained climbs over 7-8%. Part of this is my weight (250 
>> lbs). The hefty tubing and upright bars of the bike contribute as well (my 
>> lighter road bikes with similar gearing feel easier on the same climbs). 
>>
>> To make it a bit easier on my legs, I am contemplating "upgrading" to a 
>> wider range cassette in the back. More specifically, I am thinking of 
>> trying a 10-speed 11-42 cassette 
>> 
>>  and 
>> wanted to get the group's input on whether this is a good idea.
>>
>>- Will this even work with my current setup? I have Shimano Deore 
>>derailer and use Silver2 friction shifters for both front and rear. Based 
>>on the recent newsletter from Will on different derailer and cassette 
>>combo, I feel like this should work. Attached is the picture of the 
>>derailer when I am in the lowest gear both front and back.
>>- I currently have 9 speed 11-36 cassette and shifting works great. 
>>How will going to 10-speed affect the quality of shifting?
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Kushan
>>
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Re: [RBW] Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Jared Wilson]

I just love how that Clem turned out with the Xtracycle kit, what a cool 
way to make use of that frameset.

Platypus is looking good too!

On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 4:27:07 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:

> Today was the nicest day of the year in the great garden state.
>
> [image: bikes1.jpg]
> Bones
> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 12:03:41 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
>
>> Indeed, Beatifully set up bike, Paul. Always enjoy your builds and 
>> photography. 
>>
>> - Max “how was your ride?.. more than bokeh” in A2
>>
>> On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 11:32:13 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Paul,
>>>
>>> Gorgeous bike and photos to boot. Thank you for the component details as 
>>> well. 
>>>
>>> Your description of the CX-70 front derailer touching the chainstay is 
>>> particularly timely. I'm doing a build now where the derailer/chainstay 
>>> kiss each other - or within a whisker or two of that so I've wondered, how 
>>> close is too close? Like you, I have the option of a perfectly functional 
>>> but less attractive shorter cage der but would prefer using the vintage 
>>> (silver of course) longer cage model. From the pictures it would appear the 
>>> CX-70-chainstay marriage is working out well so I have hopes for my combo.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich n ATL
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 10:00:58 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>
 Forgot to mention the cassette spec is 10spd 11-30t, so 11/40 high and 
 30/24 low. High enough for me, plenty low for a mostly unloaded sled.

 22.3lbs as is, with several spec subs that would get it into the 21lb+ 
 range. Could go more modern and down in the 20s, but I like the older 
 school look.

 And yeah, better to say "...clearance for 30mm tires..." since 32s are 
 getting dicey.

 I had issues posting the photos, gotta click to view 'em, will see if 
 cutting the [img] tags fixes that...

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA

 On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Old School time, a day late for Throwback Thursday, if that's still a 
> thing.
>
> '98 Riv Custom, built by Joe Starck, back in the day when 
> designing/building a short-reach caliper frame with rock-bottom brake 
> shoes 
> ("Look out, Courageous, it's Rock Bottom!!!") and clearance for 32mm 700c 
> tires was a big f'in deal...
>
 [snip] 

>
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51218631413_cc5a80d181_k.jpg 
> 
>
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51217707602_31d1bfcc06_k.jpg 
> 
>
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50365316941_c7a4475dda_k.jpg 
> 
>
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50440286627_b8fb4c3792_k.jpg 
> 
>
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50440286327_bd34374447_k.jpg 
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica Titanico and Thomson Elite 26.8/330

[Jared Wilson]

Thomson sold, thanks for the interest :)

Jared

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 12:23:21 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Bump, $65 shipped on the Thomson post.
>
> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Saddle sold to locally, thanks Miles :)
>>
>> Seatpost still available, updated price of $70 shipped.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 8:14:58 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy
>>>
>>> Catch and release on the Titanico from a group member recently, I love 
>>> how they feel and especially how they look, but I just can't shake the Pure 
>>> V. 
>>>
>>> $75 shipped.
>>>
>>> Thomson Elite 26.8/330 came with a bike and no longer has a use around 
>>> here so hoping someone else can make use of it.
>>>
>>> $75 shipped. 
>>>
>>> Get 'em both for $140/shipped.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Jared
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4150.JPG]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica Titanico and Thomson Elite 26.8/330

[Jared Wilson]

Bump, $65 shipped on the Thomson post.

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Saddle sold to locally, thanks Miles :)
>
> Seatpost still available, updated price of $70 shipped.
>
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 8:14:58 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Howdy
>>
>> Catch and release on the Titanico from a group member recently, I love 
>> how they feel and especially how they look, but I just can't shake the Pure 
>> V. 
>>
>> $75 shipped.
>>
>> Thomson Elite 26.8/330 came with a bike and no longer has a use around 
>> here so hoping someone else can make use of it.
>>
>> $75 shipped. 
>>
>> Get 'em both for $140/shipped.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> [image: IMG_4150.JPG]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica Titanico and Thomson Elite 26.8/330

[Jared Wilson]

Saddle sold to locally, thanks Miles :)

Seatpost still available, updated price of $70 shipped.

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 8:14:58 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Howdy
>
> Catch and release on the Titanico from a group member recently, I love how 
> they feel and especially how they look, but I just can't shake the Pure V. 
>
> $75 shipped.
>
> Thomson Elite 26.8/330 came with a bike and no longer has a use around 
> here so hoping someone else can make use of it.
>
> $75 shipped. 
>
> Get 'em both for $140/shipped.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jared
>
> [image: IMG_4150.JPG]
>

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[RBW] ISO: Capable commuter bike for 90pbh person in SF Bay Area

[Jared Wilson]

Hey gang

After such quick results regarding my Hunqapillar trade last week I've 
decided to try my hand at another ISO posting, this time for my older 
brother.

He's recently moved much closer to his place of work and contacted me about 
getting a bike to commute on.

I'm so happy to hear this and want to help him get on the right bike.

He currently has an aluminum Klein road bike that he's never really enjoyed 
so I want to help him get set up and enjoying his time in the saddle.

He's roughly 6'1", PBH of 89-90, weight of 180lbs, all by my approximation.

I figure something lugged steel with cantilever brakes and clearance for 
minimum 30mm tires should put us on the right track, but open to whatever's 
recommended.

Ideally I'm thinking Bridgestone X0-something or another would be good, 
newer bikes like Surly Cross Check or Handsome XOXO also encouraged.

Price range is sub $1,000, he's not in need of all the bells and whistles, 
just something reliable and fun to ride.

He's located in Sunnyvale and can check out bikes around SF Bay Area, 
prefer to hold off on shipping for the time being because I really want him 
to jive with his new bike so the risk of buying something site unseen makes 
me a bit nervous.

Looking forward to hearing what's available, please respond off list.

Thanks :)

Jared






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[RBW] Re: FT/FS: 61cm Rivendell Hunqapillar Frameset

[Jared Wilson]

Traded! Thanks everyone for your interest :)

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 5:18:18 PM UTC-7 rickur...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> I wish you were closer to me, I would love to through a leg. Good luck! 
> Cool, cool, cool bike
> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 4:17:51 PM UTC-4 Miles wrote:
>
>> Oh n! Sad to see this one go, but you gotta listen to your heart. 
>>
>> For anyone potentially considering, this frame is in great shape and 
>> Jared is a stand up guy. Buy with confidence. 
>>
>> - Miles, who bought Jared’s previous Susie and is thus partially 
>> responsible for this predicament. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:54:57 AM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Whoops, correction, 62cm!!
>>>
>>> And forgot price, depends on parts included but lets say $1400 for 
>>> frame/fork/headest/bb/Thomson seat post.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:49:17 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> Got this frameset from a group member a couple months back and after 
>>>> serious consideration I've accepted that it's just a hair too tall for me.
>>>>
>>>> The Hunqapillar is *in* *theory* my dream Rivendell, but *in practice* 
>>>> the 61cm is just too large and a little "too much bike" for the kind of 
>>>> riding I do.
>>>>
>>>> Frame is in awesome condition sans some chain suck that was sanded and 
>>>> clear coated by PO, otherwise just average wear and tear.
>>>>
>>>> Continuing the hunt for the right frameset I'd be interested in a *60cm 
>>>> Cheviot/ Platypus or XL Susie. *
>>>>
>>>> Gonna be in the Bay Area with the bike Wednesday (today) - Friday 
>>>> incase someone is interested in a trade or sale somewhere between SLO and 
>>>> SF.
>>>>
>>>> Shoot me an email and lets figure some stuff out, I have some parts I'd 
>>>> like to keep with the frame (Thomson seat post, FSA headset, Shimano BB?, 
>>>> and probably the Paul cantis) so lets make a deal.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and happy trails!
>>>>
>>>> Jared
>>>> Somewhere on the US-101
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_3956.JPG]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FT/FS: 61cm Rivendell Hunqapillar Frameset

[Jared Wilson]

Whoops, correction, 62cm!!

And forgot price, depends on parts included but lets say $1400 for 
frame/fork/headest/bb/Thomson seat post.

Thanks!

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:49:17 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hello all
>
> Got this frameset from a group member a couple months back and after 
> serious consideration I've accepted that it's just a hair too tall for me.
>
> The Hunqapillar is *in* *theory* my dream Rivendell, but *in practice* 
> the 61cm is just too large and a little "too much bike" for the kind of 
> riding I do.
>
> Frame is in awesome condition sans some chain suck that was sanded and 
> clear coated by PO, otherwise just average wear and tear.
>
> Continuing the hunt for the right frameset I'd be interested in a *60cm 
> Cheviot/ Platypus or XL Susie. *
>
> Gonna be in the Bay Area with the bike Wednesday (today) - Friday incase 
> someone is interested in a trade or sale somewhere between SLO and SF.
>
> Shoot me an email and lets figure some stuff out, I have some parts I'd 
> like to keep with the frame (Thomson seat post, FSA headset, Shimano BB?, 
> and probably the Paul cantis) so lets make a deal.
>
> Thanks and happy trails!
>
> Jared
> Somewhere on the US-101
>
> [image: IMG_3956.JPG]
>
>
>

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[RBW] ISO: ThumbShifter Mount handlebar clamp for Silver shifter

[Jared Wilson]

Hey gang

Upgrading to a Silver2 *X* shifter and the mount is currently out of stock.

Hoping someone has an *X* style mount they'd be willing to part with.

Off list responses please, thanks!

Jared
93401

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[RBW] Re: Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Jared Wilson]

Wow Jason, looks like a beautiful place to enjoy your bicycle!

Sorry to hear about the fender incident, I was trying to follow your lead 
by fitting metal fenders over 2.1" Thunderburts on my new Hunqapillar but 
quickly decided it wasn't worth the risk.

Glad you're recovered and back in the saddle, be well.

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:14:53 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Another weekend, another trip up into my favourite valley!  With select 
> friends this time.  And no front fender - because I had the dreaded 
> stick-in-the-fender crumple, over the bars at speed situation last 
> weekend... solo, 25 km from cell service and about 6km from any trail that 
> I'd be likely to see another person before nightfall. I learned more than 
> one lesson that day. 
>
> On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 07:45:05 UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> I'm such a big fan of taking pics on my rides.
>>
>> It's fun to see others pics from their rides as well.
>>
>> This list does some of that but it would be great to see even more.
>>
>> From yesterday's ride after mounting new 
>> 700x43 Gravel King SS tires on my orange Sam.
>>
>> Only did 8 miles but tires felt outstanding. 
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
>> [image: Image] 
>>
>> [image: Image] 
>>
>> [image: Image] 
>>
>> [image: Image] 
>>
>>
>>

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