RE: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Yes, yes, works just fine, but does do that. It's all about what you can live with. Joe > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:34:40 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling > From: michael@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > I'm building up a new frame and have been wondering about this > myself. I was comforted by the many replies which basically said that > it wasn't a problem, that leaving the cables bare against the bottom > bracket shell was fine. > Then my friend sent me this: > http://gallery.me.com/natan#100058/IMG_3357&bgcolor=black > > So I guess leaving the cable bare works for some people and not for > others. Just thought that I'd throw in another data point. > > On Oct 25, 6:11 am, "Frederick, Steve" > wrote: > > My local shop just gave me a couple of feet of that plastic > > tubing--lifetime supply! > > > > I don't always use it--cables are pretty smooth and I've run them bare > > through the cast in guides and it's been fine. Even if it wears through > > the paint eventually, the continuous contact/motion of the cable prevents > > rust. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Seth Vidal > > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:38 PM > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Derailleur Cabling > > > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, kevin lindsey > > wrote: > > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > > bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > > > paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > > > housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > > > going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > > > cables. > > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > > Kevin > > > > not sure where to buy the little pieces of plastic but you can take > > some shifter cable housing > > > > strip the housing and the metal off of it and the inside will have > > these little pieces of tubular plastic. > > > > put a 3-4" segment of those around your cable under the bottom bracket > > and it shouldn't abrade the paint. > > > > At least - it hasn't for me so far. > > > > if anyone happens to know if you can BUY that stuff somewhere w/o > > having to strip it off excess shifter housing, I'd be all ears. > > > > -sv > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I'm building up a new frame and have been wondering about this myself. I was comforted by the many replies which basically said that it wasn't a problem, that leaving the cables bare against the bottom bracket shell was fine. Then my friend sent me this: http://gallery.me.com/natan#100058/IMG_3357&bgcolor=black So I guess leaving the cable bare works for some people and not for others. Just thought that I'd throw in another data point. On Oct 25, 6:11 am, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > My local shop just gave me a couple of feet of that plastic tubing--lifetime > supply! > > I don't always use it--cables are pretty smooth and I've run them bare > through the cast in guides and it's been fine. Even if it wears through the > paint eventually, the continuous contact/motion of the cable prevents rust. > > Steve > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Seth Vidal > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:38 PM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Derailleur Cabling > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, kevin lindsey > wrote: > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > > paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > > housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > > going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > > cables. > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > not sure where to buy the little pieces of plastic but you can take > some shifter cable housing > > strip the housing and the metal off of it and the inside will have > these little pieces of tubular plastic. > > put a 3-4" segment of those around your cable under the bottom bracket > and it shouldn't abrade the paint. > > At least - it hasn't for me so far. > > if anyone happens to know if you can BUY that stuff somewhere w/o > having to strip it off excess shifter housing, I'd be all ears. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Hm, I think drain holes are sometimes worth plugging - on a case by case basis. If you aren't using fenders and that drainage hole is the only reasonable access point for crud and water, it can't hurt to fill it. If you do have full fenders and a mud flap, that drainage hole will only let things out. I have one bike which is otherwise well sealed, but fender-less, and the BB drainage hole was allowing road crud spit off the front wheel into my BB. I sealed the hole with bees wax and the BB has remained clean ever since. Also, most "drainage" holes on frames and racks are actually ventilation holes drilled by the framebuilder to release gases during brazing or welding. Many builders don't bother to fill them with brass afterward. They aren't necessarily helping you out any when the frame is complete. Ventilation holes in forks and seat stays are worth filling with bees wax, in my opinion. Bottom bracket drainage holes, on the other hand, are placed with drainage in mind - but like I said above, they may or may not be useful. Travis On Oct 24, 12:39 am, andrew hill wrote: > thanks folks, for setting me straight on the un-tapped resource of a drain > hole. > > andrew > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 9:15 PM, doug peterson wrote: > > > The untapped hole is a drain hole; don't plug it. I never took the BB > > out for 6 years & there was not crud up there when I did. > > > I drilled a separate hole near the drain for the cable guide bracket. > > > dougP > > > On Oct 23, 4:28 pm, andrew hill wrote: > >> I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a > >> Romulus. > > >> good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) > >> hole for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. > > >> i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. > >> or maybe this isn't really an issue? > > >> best, > >> andrew > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I too experience the occasional problem with the rear derailer cable dropping out of the BB cable guide on my Riv custom and Saluki. I've encountered this when removing the rear wheel - usually in the midst of a flat repair. If this event is in the midst of a driving rain storm the cable is almost guaranteed to fall out of the guide. ;>) I use the inner liner from brake cable housing on the derailer cables where they run under the BB - works great. -JimD On Oct 23, 2010, at 4:16 PM, doug peterson wrote: On my Atlantis I had a problem with the cables coming out of the guides. Not huge, only happened every now & again. But it's a pain to fuss with when the bike is loaded down with 4 panniers. When I finally had to replace the BB (6 years, I think) I drilled & tapped a hole in the BB shell and added a plastic cable guide. The paint was fine. FWIW I may be the only person to ever have the cable wandering problem. dougP On Oct 23, 3:27 pm, kevin lindsey wrote: Problem solved (I think). The local bike shop gave me six inches of thin (about 1/4" diameter) plastic tubing that they use to protect frames from derailleur and brake cables. They fit into the BB guides and seem to be holding their place under the tension of the cable. Kevin On Oct 23, 2:29 pm, eflayer wrote: I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel tunnel approach. On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the bottom bracket yes- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
thanks folks, for setting me straight on the un-tapped resource of a drain hole. andrew On Oct 23, 2010, at 9:15 PM, doug peterson wrote: > The untapped hole is a drain hole; don't plug it. I never took the BB > out for 6 years & there was not crud up there when I did. > > I drilled a separate hole near the drain for the cable guide bracket. > > dougP > > On Oct 23, 4:28 pm, andrew hill wrote: >> I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. >> >> good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) >> hole for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. >> >> i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or >> maybe this isn't really an issue? >> >> best, >> andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
The untapped hole is a drain hole; don't plug it. I never took the BB out for 6 years & there was not crud up there when I did. I drilled a separate hole near the drain for the cable guide bracket. dougP On Oct 23, 4:28 pm, andrew hill wrote: > I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. > > good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) hole > for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. > > i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or > maybe this isn't really an issue? > > best, > andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
The lining of derailleur cable housing is usually thicker than the stuff I've seen that covers exposed brake/derailleur cables. Angus On Oct 23, 5:27 pm, kevin lindsey wrote: > Problem solved (I think). The local bike shop gave me six inches of > thin (about 1/4" diameter) plastic tubing that they use to protect > frames from derailleur and brake cables. They fit into the BB guides > and seem to be holding their place under the tension of the cable. > Kevin > > On Oct 23, 2:29 pm, eflayer wrote: > > > I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually > > install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel > > tunnel approach. > > > On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: > > > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > > > bottom bracket > > > > yes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Leave the hole open. I've had water accumulate in the BB of frames before. If there isn't a hole in the BB shell, now I drill one. Angus On Oct 23, 6:28 pm, andrew hill wrote: > I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. > > good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) hole > for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. > > i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or > maybe this isn't really an issue? > > best, > andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
On the contrary, leaving that hole open will prevent crud (mainly water) that works its way into the frame from pooling there and causing rust. The amount of crud that can possibly get in will be fair outweighed by the benefit of letting the water out. On Oct 23, 4:28 pm, andrew hill wrote: > I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. > > good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) hole > for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. > > i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or > maybe this isn't really an issue? > > best, > andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) hole for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or maybe this isn't really an issue? best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
On my Atlantis I had a problem with the cables coming out of the guides. Not huge, only happened every now & again. But it's a pain to fuss with when the bike is loaded down with 4 panniers. When I finally had to replace the BB (6 years, I think) I drilled & tapped a hole in the BB shell and added a plastic cable guide. The paint was fine. FWIW I may be the only person to ever have the cable wandering problem. dougP On Oct 23, 3:27 pm, kevin lindsey wrote: > Problem solved (I think). The local bike shop gave me six inches of > thin (about 1/4" diameter) plastic tubing that they use to protect > frames from derailleur and brake cables. They fit into the BB guides > and seem to be holding their place under the tension of the cable. > Kevin > > On Oct 23, 2:29 pm, eflayer wrote: > > > > > I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually > > install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel > > tunnel approach. > > > On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: > > > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > > > bottom bracket > > > > yes- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Problem solved (I think). The local bike shop gave me six inches of thin (about 1/4" diameter) plastic tubing that they use to protect frames from derailleur and brake cables. They fit into the BB guides and seem to be holding their place under the tension of the cable. Kevin On Oct 23, 2:29 pm, eflayer wrote: > I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually > install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel > tunnel approach. > > On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: > > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > > bottom bracket > > > yes > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
The plastic sleeves inside vbrake noodles could work. They look very similar to the sleeves I've seen in Rivendell's photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling and Bleriot
My Bleriot arrived from Rivendell with short flexible plastic tubing on the cables under the bottom bracket. Looks flimsy and I've re-cabled the bike and re-used them. The plastic tubing is still functional and still there.That's almost 4 years of use, approximately 8 to 10,000 miles (a fairly good guess, I track bike mileage per year, but I can't seem to remember to track mileage per bike).JoanOct 23, 2010 05:29:18 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actuallyinstall the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steeltunnel approach.On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:> On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote:> > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the> > bottom bracket>> yes-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel tunnel approach. On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > bottom bracket > > yes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
My Bleriot and Rambouillet both have bare cable underneath. They were set up by pro's (paid mechanics... not me) so I assume they know what they are doing. Paint rub appears minimal and no rust (riding here my bikes get pretty wetoff to get one of them wet right now!). Rob Markwardt Seattle, WA > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > cables. > Any comments would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
It's probably alright, but I was worried about bare cable on paint friction as well. I used a cocktail/coffee stir straw to protect my paint down there. It was a pain to shove in there, but now it won't be going anywhere on it's own. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I agree not to over think it but there's a natural tendency to worry when you run into this on a relatively expensive frame for the first time. This happened to me recently with a pristine 8 yr old Atlantis frame I bought off Craigslist. This was my first decent / pricey frame. Advice from the group ranged from tapping the BB and screwing in cable guides to various tubing solutions. I asked Rivendell and the man himself ( I / Grant) said don't worry about it the cable on bare metal was really inconsequential. Being a neophyte it didn't make me feel good so they sent me some tubing. It turns out it was plastic housing from a brake link wire (see url below) http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=34706 I slid that on and haven't had any issue. My feeling now is that derailer tubing or plastic sheath out of a brake cable would work just fine. So, that range is. Do nothing and let it rub. Use any type of sheathing that will cover it (I doesn't move much). Tap the BB and screw in a plastic cable guide. Most of all enjoy your bike. Off to the garage to finish giving the Riv treatment to the '84 Specialized Expedition just picked up. Cheers, Mitch. On Oct 23, 12:49 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > I agree. If you think about it, when's the last time you saw one of those > plastic cable guides cut in two by the action of the cables? Your bottom > bracket is made of much harder stuff--you could probably run bare cables for > decades and not see any appreciable wear. > > —Eric N > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Dave Craig wrote: > > > > > My opinion is that it really isn't a big deal to run the cables bare > > under the BB. I recently stripped down my Atlantis for sale. I had > > been running bare cables for several years. As I inspected the frame > > before shipping, I noted that the paint was barely worn under the BB, > > let alone any metal. The BB shell is a thick, sturdy, piece of metal. > > It is unlikely to suffer any significant damage from the smooth, thin, > > stainless gear cables. My new Hilsen is also unprotected and I'm fine > > with that. > > > Enjoying unprotected shifting, > > > Dave > > > On Oct 23, 11:31 am, kevin lindsey wrote: > >> Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > >> bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > >> paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > >> housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > >> going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > >> cables. > >> Any comments would be appreciated. > >> Thanks, > >> Kevin > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
I agree. If you think about it, when's the last time you saw one of those plastic cable guides cut in two by the action of the cables? Your bottom bracket is made of much harder stuff--you could probably run bare cables for decades and not see any appreciable wear. —Eric N On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Dave Craig wrote: > My opinion is that it really isn't a big deal to run the cables bare > under the BB. I recently stripped down my Atlantis for sale. I had > been running bare cables for several years. As I inspected the frame > before shipping, I noted that the paint was barely worn under the BB, > let alone any metal. The BB shell is a thick, sturdy, piece of metal. > It is unlikely to suffer any significant damage from the smooth, thin, > stainless gear cables. My new Hilsen is also unprotected and I'm fine > with that. > > Enjoying unprotected shifting, > > Dave > > On Oct 23, 11:31 am, kevin lindsey wrote: >> Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the >> bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the >> paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable >> housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is >> going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur >> cables. >> Any comments would be appreciated. >> Thanks, >> Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
My opinion is that it really isn't a big deal to run the cables bare under the BB. I recently stripped down my Atlantis for sale. I had been running bare cables for several years. As I inspected the frame before shipping, I noted that the paint was barely worn under the BB, let alone any metal. The BB shell is a thick, sturdy, piece of metal. It is unlikely to suffer any significant damage from the smooth, thin, stainless gear cables. My new Hilsen is also unprotected and I'm fine with that. Enjoying unprotected shifting, Dave On Oct 23, 11:31 am, kevin lindsey wrote: > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > cables. > Any comments would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
That's a pretty good solution. At the very least, it ought to save the paint until RBW opens up on Monday. All the best, Kevin On Oct 23, 11:50 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, kevin lindsey > wrote: > > Pestering the builders is always my default choice when these issues > > come up, but the folks at Rivendell don't seem to be answering the > > phone today and I want to take the Bleriot out. That's why I'm > > throwing myself on the mercy of this group :) > > Kevin > > Ah ha! > > Push comes to shove - put a small piece of electrical tape or > something underneath there for the day and fix it later :) > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, kevin lindsey wrote: > Pestering the builders is always my default choice when these issues > come up, but the folks at Rivendell don't seem to be answering the > phone today and I want to take the Bleriot out. That's why I'm > throwing myself on the mercy of this group :) > Kevin > Ah ha! Push comes to shove - put a small piece of electrical tape or something underneath there for the day and fix it later :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Pestering the builders is always my default choice when these issues come up, but the folks at Rivendell don't seem to be answering the phone today and I want to take the Bleriot out. That's why I'm throwing myself on the mercy of this group :) Kevin On Oct 23, 11:46 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, kevin lindsey > wrote: > > Thanks, Seth. > > I wondered whether there wasn't some kind of work-around here; thanks > > for providing it. I'd have thought that a more logical solution would > > have been to make the guides wide enough to accept an unstripped piece > > of cable housing. Maybe it's a Riv thing. > > Look forward to any additional insights. > > I don't know - but I think it would move around on you if it were a > full piece of housing. > > But always a good method: > call riv and ask. > > they're kinda super-duper about answering questions on the phone about > their bikes. > > I've asked some.. well let's just call them less than > well-thought-out questions and whomever answered the phone has always > been happy to answer with a much more well-thought-out answer. > > :) > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, kevin lindsey wrote: > Thanks, Seth. > I wondered whether there wasn't some kind of work-around here; thanks > for providing it. I'd have thought that a more logical solution would > have been to make the guides wide enough to accept an unstripped piece > of cable housing. Maybe it's a Riv thing. > Look forward to any additional insights. > I don't know - but I think it would move around on you if it were a full piece of housing. But always a good method: call riv and ask. they're kinda super-duper about answering questions on the phone about their bikes. I've asked some.. well let's just call them less than well-thought-out questions and whomever answered the phone has always been happy to answer with a much more well-thought-out answer. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
Thanks, Seth. I wondered whether there wasn't some kind of work-around here; thanks for providing it. I'd have thought that a more logical solution would have been to make the guides wide enough to accept an unstripped piece of cable housing. Maybe it's a Riv thing. Look forward to any additional insights. Kevin On Oct 23, 11:37 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, kevin lindsey > wrote: > > Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the > > bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the > > paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable > > housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is > > going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur > > cables. > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > not sure where to buy the little pieces of plastic but you can take > some shifter cable housing > > strip the housing and the metal off of it and the inside will have > these little pieces of tubular plastic. > > put a 3-4" segment of those around your cable under the bottom bracket > and it shouldn't abrade the paint. > > At least - it hasn't for me so far. > > if anyone happens to know if you can BUY that stuff somewhere w/o > having to strip it off excess shifter housing, I'd be all ears. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
