subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: Fancy Cheviot\!"

No, it's all one new bike and shipment. The new Cheviot is different and not 
called that, and will land shortly(?) after the next Sam batch.  

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread masmojo

Well, reading the Blahg my initial suspicion was confirmed this new Fancy 
Cheviot is not a Cheviot at all it's something slightly different!? Apparently 
new Cheviots will come out and then this new Platypus(?) Bike. 
My overall impression of it is that it's longer. The one in the photo isn't too 
bad, but it's a small.  Once that's worked up to a 55 it'll be Clem L long I'm 
sure.

Hm . . . .


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Drw

Man, v brakes are really the only reason I’m considering this. I also love the 
platypus name a lot. Can’t wait for the headbadge. 
That said, I’m all in on 650b, and moved all my 700c stuff a while back. If 
55cm was 650b, I probably wouldn’t be able to resist, but as it is there is too 
much overlap with my Rosco bubbe mtn mixte cargo bike (that I’ll now wait for 
someone to remind me is not an actual mixte)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Dan McNamara

That could be a good option. It brings back memories of Mr Rogers’ Neighborhood 
wherein the doctor in the neighborhood of make believe named Dr Bill, who was a 
platypus, had a daughter named Ornithorhynchus Anatinus. For that reason I have 
known the latin name for the platypus. 

Surprisingly it has come in useful more than once. 

Dan



> On May 16, 2020, at 2:02 PM, The Snag  wrote:
> 
> 
> Has no one bothered to look up the Latin name of the platypus? Anatinus is 
> the species. I think it sounds quite regal, as people have requested. Beyond 
> that it is a scientific name, scientific names are used by people worldwide 
> to communicate effectively. Good start, we're getting cross-cultural. 
> 
> Then we go back to gender-neutral first names. My first though was Dylan, not 
> only a much beloved name in Rivendell but also it's meaning has water-based 
> roots. But maybe it doesn't flow too well with Anatinus. What does sound good 
> it Tony, or Toni, or my favorite spelling, Tonee.  I have no skin in the game 
> because my step-thru is a giant Rosco Mtn. mixte, but I think that Tonee 
> Anatinus would be a bitchin name for a bike. 
> 
> Haakon
> Tillamook, OR
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread The Snag

Has no one bothered to look up the Latin name of the platypus? *Anatinus* 
is the species. I think it sounds quite regal, as people have requested. 
Beyond that it is a scientific name, scientific names are used by people 
worldwide to communicate effectively. Good start, we're getting 
cross-cultural. 

Then we go back to gender-neutral first names. My first though was Dylan, 
not only a much beloved name in Rivendell but also it's meaning has 
water-based roots. But maybe it doesn't flow too well with Anatinus. What 
does sound good it Tony, or Toni, or my favorite spelling, Tonee.  I have 
no skin in the game because my step-thru is a giant Rosco Mtn. mixte, but I 
think that *Tonee Anatinus* would be a bitchin name for a bike. 

Haakon
Tillamook, OR

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Garth: The Bombshells came on a used bike with some kinda pads I don't 
remember, then I put new KoolStops on..those ebike ones Riv sells. Which were 
supposed to go on my custom but I decided not to go with black brakes and now I 
have these nifty Bombshells I'm not using. So if anybody wants 'em gimme a 
holler and we'll talk about good brakes for cheap! 

joeremi62 gmail com

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Garth


Joe,  Do the Bombshell 686 v-brakes you have on another bike use road 
cartridges ? They're listed as 55mm which is road length. 

When you disable the cable do the pads clear the frame front and rear ? 



On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 3:33:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Also I'd like to take the credit/blame for v-brakes on the 
> Cheviot/Platypus. I'm sure Will gets some, too, but I only mentioned like 
> 27 times on this forum that I thought my Chev needed v-brakes. Cuz they 
> rule! 
>
> PS. See my Joe's Custom thread for pics of those chrome Shimano DXR 
> v-brakes and levers Riv sells now. Chrome, baby! 👍

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Also I'd like to take the credit/blame for v-brakes on the Cheviot/Platypus. 
I'm sure Will gets some, too, but I only mentioned like 27 times on this forum 
that I thought my Chev needed v-brakes. Cuz they rule! 

PS. See my Joe's Custom thread for pics of those chrome Shimano DXR v-brakes 
and levers Riv sells now. Chrome, baby! 👍

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Garth


   So it goes with would  would would if only would could . 


On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 2:11:31 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> For the record, I would totally judge a book by its cover. Use a good 
> cover, book writer publisher people! 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

For the record, I would totally judge a book by its cover. Use a good cover, 
book writer publisher people! 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Garth



Have you ever met a Platypus ?  While I have not either, I liken it to 
meeting someone for the first time. Maybe it's a relative, a friend of a 
friend, a co-worker, a bus driver with their name on their shirt  just 
anyone even a pet. Imagine hearing/seeing their name, maybe a name you 
aren't familiar with, or a name that you react to because of what you 
former associated with that name. All the while ... "they/them/it" are with 
you in the same one presence. Regardless of their name, regardless of what 
you think of them, here we are. Remember, you have no his-story with the 
"other", it's a clean slate... it's just you and the "other". Are you going 
to relate to the "other" because of what you associate the name with, or 
are you going to simply interact with the shared uniqueness, without an 
agenda, unconditionally ?  Live and let Live ... Being and let Being. 

You just might have fun without a story to either live up to or down 
from  everyone completely Being  simply glorious ! 


I guess this is a long winded way of saying never judge a book by it's 
cover, because sooner or later you realize all judgement is without 
qualification, a Kangaroo court if you will, where not only no violation 
has occurred, no violation is even possible. The joke is on the joke. 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Kiley Demond

Platypus! It is certainly a word I enjoyed saying as a child (I assume there 
was one at the Central Park Zoo). It was a quirky creature that stuck with me, 
much like the Albatross, although my brain conveniently renamed it the Dodo 
bird because.. well, that part is obvious... but, come to find out, Dutch 
sailors ate the Dodo bird to extinction because they couldn’t fly and they 
didn’t have a fear of humans (the bird, not the sailors) so the only one I ever 
actually saw a video of was the Albatross. 

I like the irony of Platypus being a sexy bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread tuolumne bikes

I enjoy the ambiguity of "...I've always felt a little bit closer to them, a 
little fonder of them and interested in them, than my friends." 

But will a platypus come to your funeral? 

Carl

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread Grant @ Rivendell

Kind of the idea is to cram the biggest wheel into any frame that'll fit it 
without actual cramming. As the front wheel inches more forward (a result 
of longer tt, slacker ht, more rake), the room for a bigger tire, and 
bigger tire with fender, increases. In back it's easy, just stretch the 
chainstays. We have a ton of bikes here to measure, ride, test for that, so 
it's pretty easy.  Thanks for liking the V-ness of it, too. That was 
emotionally hard for me, since the longreach Tektro brakes were made at our 
request (John and I met with Tektro people before a trade show  opened, 
gave 'em numbers and wishes, and miracle of miracles, it took nothing more 
than that, and it happened in about ten minutes.) That is a great brake, I 
love it to death, but Will likes V-brakes, and he said, "Let's do 
V-brakes," and sure, why not?

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:14:57 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> Are we looking at a side pull front and v rear? Sorry just scanned the 
> previous posts. Love the look. Very pleased with what I hope will be full 
> v/canti brakes. 
>
> Wondering about 700c on a 55cm frame. I know it’s very common place and 
> I’ve had a 54cm riv with 700c wheels but it seems like a step back from the 
> “wheelsize 
> Should match the bike size” thing they’ve been doing (that I really like)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-16 Thread ascpgh

+1 What Roberta said. 

Good bike money is sweeter an investment than the combined total expense of 
what I can only now think of as wondering around, lost in the bicycle 
wilderness. 

New model should be named "Grace". It'll be amazing.

Andy Cheartham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:58:46 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
>
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
> by 2 or 3 fold.
>
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that 
> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even 
> more friends.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since 
>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>>
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
>> and grab one when they arrive? 
>> Doug
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Cheviot2 if they must. (Matches with Atlantis2.)

Appaloosa was inspired as itself; I didn't like the "Joe" appended. 

If I recall correctly, Hunqapillar was inspired by the family name 
Hunkapillar on a mailbox during a bike ride. Probably the best head badge 
of the bunch.

shoji
arlington ma




On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 10:45:38 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> I like Platypus. It's a unique animal with an odd charisma, which is a 
> good fit for this frame - there's nothing else like it on the market. I've 
> never been a fan of the fanciful human names like Yves Gomez, Betty Foy, A. 
> Homer Hilsen, etc., so it's nice to see Riv turning back to the natural 
> world for inspiration. They'll never top Hunqapillar though!
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:27 PM Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> GAH! I don't like getting into the names debate - and I KNOW coming up 
>> with our own is verbotten - but geez I'd hate to see the Cheviot name, 
>> badge and graphics go away. And this is the first tweak, right? As far as I 
>> know all Cheviots are the same or near same up to now..it's not like the 
>> new one is the 27th iteration like Stumpjumper. 
>>
>> I'm not going to weigh in on opinions of the new names or names of my 
>> own, but I'd like the new version to be the new model Cheviot. Is what I 
>> would like! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Ian A

Thank you Kiley! Yes, I miss typed that one spectacularly. Kelly Blue is a book 
of car valuations!

Kerry Blue has a much nicer ring to it.

IanA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread lambbo

my family breeds a kind of sheep called Romney, a long staple wool and meat 
sheep that, funny enough, was eventually crossed with the Cheviot to get the 
Perendale (sp?).  romney’s are handsome and strong with great wool, and i won 
my fair share of prizes in 4H showing my ram Cornelius.  
my vote is Romney, Romney Marsh, or Chevrolet.  i have a cheviot, it’s the 
best, and the name helps! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Jay Lonner

I like Platypus. It's a unique animal with an odd charisma, which is a good
fit for this frame - there's nothing else like it on the market. I've never
been a fan of the fanciful human names like Yves Gomez, Betty Foy, A. Homer
Hilsen, etc., so it's nice to see Riv turning back to the natural world for
inspiration. They'll never top Hunqapillar though!

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:27 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> GAH! I don't like getting into the names debate - and I KNOW coming up
> with our own is verbotten - but geez I'd hate to see the Cheviot name,
> badge and graphics go away. And this is the first tweak, right? As far as I
> know all Cheviots are the same or near same up to now..it's not like the
> new one is the 27th iteration like Stumpjumper.
>
> I'm not going to weigh in on opinions of the new names or names of my own,
> but I'd like the new version to be the new model Cheviot. Is what I would
> like!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread DHans

Okay. I lambasted the name. But after a little time of thinking it over. I 
could ride a Platypus. What does it really matter, right? If it’s a well 
designed nice riding rig then I’ll consider it. It’s that bike or a Clem L for 
me. Both are coming soon. 
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Joe Bernard

GAH! I don't like getting into the names debate - and I KNOW coming up with our 
own is verbotten - but geez I'd hate to see the Cheviot name, badge and 
graphics go away. And this is the first tweak, right? As far as I know all 
Cheviots are the same or near same up to now..it's not like the new one is the 
27th iteration like Stumpjumper. 

I'm not going to weigh in on opinions of the new names or names of my own, but 
I'd like the new version to be the new model Cheviot. Is what I would like! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Ray Evans

I'm with Leah. Very disappointing. Think I'm gonna have to just say no.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:22 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Remember the old days when the names were as beautiful as the bikes?
> Saluki, Cheviot, Atlantis, Clementine...
>
> Platypus. I’m out joyriding on my Platypus. Riding hard on my Platypus.
> Someone took my Platypus.
>
> I just...oh, help...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Pancake  wrote:
>
> 
> A possible issue though: confusion for Pete the Cat fans where one of the
> secondary characters is named "*Gus* the Platypus":
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>>
>> New news in the most recent email blast and blug:
>>
>> "We have a new design, based on Cheviots, coming after Sams which should
>> be fantastic.  Here's a picture of the small Losco'd sample:
>> [image: unnamed.jpg]
>> Rachel, my girlfriend, who is less biased than us and will fit the bike
>> perfectly, is going to test ride it for awhile and give us feedback. It's a
>> tiny bike for me but I can tell it rides the way we want it to. It won't
>> hurt to get a second opinion though. The model name is still TBA."
>> "CHEVIOT NEWS:
>> The CHEVIOT as it is, is as good a bike as we make, but we've changed a
>> few things, and unlike Specialized, which still has a Stumpjumper that's a
>> billion light years away from the 1981 Stumpjumper, we don't do that. A
>> tweak, OK, sure, same name Two tweaks and we start reconsidering. It's
>> something we get to do, although it may bum out some of you. Two
>> possibilities have emerged. In alphabetical order, they are:
>> Platypus
>> Winthrop-Charlene
>> Vote in the subject field of an email, like this:
>> Model name / Your name
>> like:
>> Maxwell Smart -- Winthrop-Charlene"
>>
>> Obviously Platypus (the headbadge will be fantastic!)
>>
>> My proposed name for the next Cheviot: "Derbyshire Gritstone" (D comes
>> after C, anything ending in "stone" fits with the current naming scheme,
>> also a UK sheep like the Cheviot). Alternative sheep names:
>> Debouillet (like a Rambouillet but a sheep and with a D)
>> Churra (renamed to Churro in America, could print the alternate spellings
>> on either side of the downtube like the current Cheviot/Cheviut)
>> More sheep breed names here:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sheep_breeds
>>
>>
>> Abe
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the
>>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to
>>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last
>>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>>
>>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and
>>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them.
>>> Check it out, it's pretty!
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Marin County CA.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Kiley Demond

Hi Ian: The breed of dog is Kerry Blue Terrier. Ah, I am not called the dog 
lady for nothing! -Kiley







> On May 15, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Ian A  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not in the market, but I have to say I rather like the name Platypus. 
> It's an intriguing animal.
> 
> 
> If we're having ideas on names, there is a breed of terrier named Kelly Blue, 
> which might suit a good looking bicycle intended for all genders.
> 
> 
> IanA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Ian A

I am not in the market, but I have to say I rather like the name Platypus. It's 
an intriguing animal.

If we're having ideas on names, there is a breed of terrier named Kelly Blue, 
which might suit a good looking bicycle intended for all genders.

IanA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread REC

Both potential names are embarrassing.  A regal name for a regal bike A 
lovely name for a lovely bike...

To add to Leah’s list of lovely Riv names, I submit Joe Appaloosa, which if 
they shortened it to just Appaloosa would define that bike and it’s ride.

Do I really want my new bike to be a platypus???  The other option is just as 
bad.   


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2020, at 7:39 PM, DHans  wrote:
> 
> Just say no to Platypus.  Really? Platypus? Maybe it will grow on me but my 
> first take is not a good bike name. 
> Doug
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Or if we wanted to explore a dragonfly name theme, here are my suggestions:
Pfaufliege (German: peacock fly)
Kleermaker (Dutch for dragonfly, translates as tailor)
Trollslanda (Swedish: hobgoblin fly)

And my favorite:  Globe Skimmer (species: *Pantala flavescens 
*, most widespread 
dragonfly species in the world)

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread DHans

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread DHans

Just say no to Platypus.  Really? Platypus? Maybe it will grow on me but my 
first take is not a good bike name. 
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Leah Peterson

Remember the old days when the names were as beautiful as the bikes? Saluki, 
Cheviot, Atlantis, Clementine...

Platypus. I’m out joyriding on my Platypus. Riding hard on my Platypus. Someone 
took my Platypus. 

I just...oh, help...

 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> 
> A possible issue though: confusion for Pete the Cat fans where one of the 
> secondary characters is named "Gus the Platypus":
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>> New news in the most recent email blast and blug:
>> 
>> "We have a new design, based on Cheviots, coming after Sams which should be 
>> fantastic.  Here's a picture of the small Losco'd sample:
>> 
>> Rachel, my girlfriend, who is less biased than us and will fit the bike 
>> perfectly, is going to test ride it for awhile and give us feedback. It's a 
>> tiny bike for me but I can tell it rides the way we want it to. It won't 
>> hurt to get a second opinion though. The model name is still TBA."
>> "CHEVIOT NEWS:
>> The CHEVIOT as it is, is as good a bike as we make, but we've changed a few 
>> things, and unlike Specialized, which still has a Stumpjumper that's a 
>> billion light years away from the 1981 Stumpjumper, we don't do that. A 
>> tweak, OK, sure, same name Two tweaks and we start reconsidering. It's 
>> something we get to do, although it may bum out some of you. Two 
>> possibilities have emerged. In alphabetical order, they are:
>> Platypus 
>> Winthrop-Charlene
>> Vote in the subject field of an email, like this:
>> Model name / Your name
>> like:
>> Maxwell Smart -- Winthrop-Charlene"
>> 
>> Obviously Platypus (the headbadge will be fantastic!) 
>> 
>> My proposed name for the next Cheviot: "Derbyshire Gritstone" (D comes after 
>> C, anything ending in "stone" fits with the current naming scheme, also a UK 
>> sheep like the Cheviot). Alternative sheep names:
>> Debouillet (like a Rambouillet but a sheep and with a D)
>> Churra (renamed to Churro in America, could print the alternate spellings on 
>> either side of the downtube like the current Cheviot/Cheviut)
>> More sheep breed names here: 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sheep_breeds
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Abe
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
>>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
>>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
>>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and decals 
>>> (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. Check it 
>>> out, it's pretty!
>>> 
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Marin County CA.  
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Pancake

A possible issue though: confusion for Pete the Cat fans where one of the 
secondary characters is named "*Gus* the Platypus":

[image: gus.jpg]
 

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 4:11:11 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>
> New news in the most recent email blast and blug:
>
> "We have a new design, based on Cheviots, coming after Sams which should 
> be fantastic.  Here's a picture of the small Losco'd sample:
> [image: unnamed.jpg]
> Rachel, my girlfriend, who is less biased than us and will fit the bike 
> perfectly, is going to test ride it for awhile and give us feedback. It's a 
> tiny bike for me but I can tell it rides the way we want it to. It won't 
> hurt to get a second opinion though. The model name is still TBA."
> "CHEVIOT NEWS:
> The CHEVIOT as it is, is as good a bike as we make, but we've changed a 
> few things, and unlike Specialized, which still has a Stumpjumper that's a 
> billion light years away from the 1981 Stumpjumper, we don't do that. A 
> tweak, OK, sure, same name Two tweaks and we start reconsidering. It's 
> something we get to do, although it may bum out some of you. Two 
> possibilities have emerged. In alphabetical order, they are:
> Platypus 
> Winthrop-Charlene
> Vote in the subject field of an email, like this:
> Model name / Your name
> like:
> Maxwell Smart -- Winthrop-Charlene"
>
> Obviously Platypus (the headbadge will be fantastic!) 
>
> My proposed name for the next Cheviot: "Derbyshire Gritstone" (D comes 
> after C, anything ending in "stone" fits with the current naming scheme, 
> also a UK sheep like the Cheviot). Alternative sheep names:
> Debouillet (like a Rambouillet but a sheep and with a D)
> Churra (renamed to Churro in America, could print the alternate spellings 
> on either side of the downtube like the current Cheviot/Cheviut)
> More sheep breed names here: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sheep_breeds
>
>
> Abe
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
>> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-15 Thread Kiley Demond

Good Memory! (How often do we get to hear that these days?) I intend to do a 
lot less lifting of this bike and just roll it out the door and off I go. I do 
intend to E it at some point and at the point the weight is off the chart of 
relevance. I had nice light parts on it — just a lot of them;-). I enjoyed 
pimping my ride but intend to take a more restrained attitude with this one. 
We’ll see how it goes. I do know one thing, like last time, it will not have 
anything ‘made in China’ on it! 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Leah:

Thank you.  It is what it is.  I am in much better shape than many people.  
There is nothing I can do currently but wait, see what happens, and trust I 
will end up where I am supposed to be.  But I appreciate the kindness.  
Please stay safe yourself along with the small persons under your care.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Joyce Swanson

What great news, Leah!  I'm so glad this bike is going to be available and
happy to hear so many others in the group saying they will order.  I'm IN
and going "light" with you and Roberta. Thank you for "nagging" Vince and
Will with tenacity and kindness.  YIPPEE!
#RivSisters,
--Joyce

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> I have the best news!
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw
> on the Blahg.
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike.
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that -
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!!
> (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.)
>
> Let’s just let that sink
> in
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November.
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is
> a club I want to be in.
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website?
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread greenteadrinkers

Just jumping in... might be totally off base, but, happened to watch a 
interview with these guys behind this web app called Bike Insights, which, 
allows one to compare two frame geometries over top of each other. One can 
/ could add to the data base, might be helpful in this case?

https://bikeinsights.com/

Scott

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>
> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Roberta

Hi, Kiley.

As I recall, your Chev was the 60 size and you found it too heavy when 
picking it up to lift over gates or fences or such.  You might want to 
review the pics of the current 60 size with the Orange Nu-Chev (could that 
be N-ewe Cheviot, get it???)  to see if the top tube is lower  Or, ask 
Riv.  I'm pretty sure that the sizing chart on their site is the one that's 
been there for years.  I'm not sure if that will be the same sizing chart 
for the N-ewe Cheviot (I hope they don't actually call it that, but it's 
pretty cute for here).

If I'm in the middle pbh for my size (83pbh, I'm assuming 55), I'll be 
getting one. I think I'm in the same decade of life as you and picking up 
is important.  I'll be having James at Analog build mine up "light."  You 
might want to do something similar (lighter saddle, wheels, tubeless, alum 
handlebars, 1x)  to make my entire bike riding/ownership experience 
better.  There's another thread about it.  Bicycle Belle Ding Ding or Joe 
started it, perhaps a month ago.

Roberta

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-4, Kiley Demond wrote:
>
> Well, it is now clear to me that somehow I dropped off the Riv newsletter 
> distribution. I was waiting to hear about the next shipment of Clem L and 
> then this comes along... I am unable to find a link to the newsletter... 
> just Blogs and Blugs. Please help.. I am finally looking at getting my 
> forever bike (again). I can’t believe it has been 4 years since I bought my 
> Cheviot, and almost 2 years since I sold it. 
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
>> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Kiley Demond

Well, I am still sizing to large. PBH is 91.5. I still need that bar as low 
as possible...

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 8:08:20 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> I think if they end up making the 55cm (aka medium frame) a little 
> "bigger" it will help give people a choice of choosing a frame with a lower 
> step-through. The recommended sizing for the current Cheviot really pushes 
> "medium" candidates to the large frame size.  The large size's step over is 
> pretty darn high as I recall.
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 10:55:40 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> One of the things I hoped is that the mixte tube is not, as Roberta calls 
>> it, a trip-through. As in, let’s get the tube as low as we can. Is it just 
>> me seeing what I want to see, or does the top tube appear nice and low? 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Kiley Demond

Another vote for orange although I am over my color restrictions (almost); 
the only colors I will not buy are red and black. (Sorry, Leah.)

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:28:01 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> ORANGE! ORANGE! ORANGE!
>
> That orange one looks huge. 
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Kiley Demond

Well, it is now clear to me that somehow I dropped off the Riv newsletter 
distribution. I was waiting to hear about the next shipment of Clem L and 
then this comes along... I am unable to find a link to the newsletter... 
just Blogs and Blugs. Please help.. I am finally looking at getting my 
forever bike (again). I can’t believe it has been 4 years since I bought my 
Cheviot, and almost 2 years since I sold it. 

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>
> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-14 Thread Tom Wyland

Yes, I'm in. Now I have to decide between the sizes, since my plan all 
along was to use a set of 700c wheels, brakes, handlebars, saddle, etc that 
is on my Handsome Devil.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Persistence, yes, that’s a nicer word than...nagging.

If the Nu-Cheviot is renamed Nag, I guess we’ll know who to blame.

I can’t wait for you and your SO to get the Nag Nu-Cheviot! 
L

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Shoji Takahashi  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm holding my bike purchases until Nu-chev can be pre/ordered.
> 
> My SO and I are same PBH, so this will be easy... 
> 
> I'm not sure about the 700c for 55cm and was happy to see 650b for 50cm. I'm 
> happy to wait for the geometry chart and Riv recommendation now that the 
> Nu-chev news is out.
> 
> Thanks for your persistence, Leah. (That's my SO's word for it. :))
> 
> shoji
> arlington ma
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:33:40 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Andrew - excellent! So happy for you. 
>> 
>> The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size. 
>> Leah 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>> > On May 13, 2020, at 3:31 PM, DHans  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b 
>> > wheels. Is this changing? 
>> > Doug 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard

"I am likely in, I was waiting for the Anniversary mixte, but I  think this 
will likely be a fine substitute."

Indeed, this is the Anniversary Mixte to my eye. It's the one Grant and Will 
mentioned in the process of telling me the anniversary bike wasn't happening, 
so it's the Anniversary Cheviot! 

According to the Book of Joe 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread masmojo

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:28:24 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
> being in our club. 
> 
> 
> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
> Leah
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really 
> like my GT. 
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
> 
> 
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
> Doug 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
> or 3 fold.
> 
> 
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months later, 
> a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd been 
> riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the best 
> money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they bring 
> me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm smiling 
> the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more friends.
> 
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:Great news Leah! 
> Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been looking hard at the 
> Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled on spending more than 
> I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of money but a lot for me. I 
> really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m no longer a spring 
> chicken...53. 
> 
> 
> 
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
> grab one when they arrive?
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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I am likely in, I was waiting for the Anniversary mixte, but I  think this will 
likely be a fine substitute.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi

I'm holding my bike purchases until Nu-chev can be pre/ordered.

My SO and I are same PBH, so this will be easy... 

I'm not sure about the 700c for 55cm and was happy to see 650b for 50cm. 
I'm happy to wait for the geometry chart and Riv recommendation now that 
the Nu-chev news is out.

Thanks for your persistence, Leah. (That's my SO's word for it. :))

shoji
arlington ma



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>
> Andrew - excellent! So happy for you. 
>
> The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size. 
> Leah 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On May 13, 2020, at 3:31 PM, DHans > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b 
> wheels. Is this changing? 
> > Doug 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Ray Evans

Ah no, she doesn't ride any more! Can you call her for me, please?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:28 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Well, Raydoes she get the bike, or do you? 😉
>
> Compromise: Get the size you both can use.
>
> According to the Book of Leah,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ray Evans  wrote:
>
> 
> Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived
> today. So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford 
> wrote:
>
>> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a
>> Mixte. Im in!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot
>> and being in our club.
>>
>> So, nothing to see here, move along.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Roberta,
>> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I
>> have a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of
>> bike. And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the
>> Clem. I really like my GT.
>> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the
>> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys.
>>
>> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward
>> to seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride.
>> If anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested.
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Doug,
>>
>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!
>>
>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent
>> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably
>> by 2 or 3 fold.
>>
>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv
>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months
>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).
>> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are
>> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy
>> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that
>> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even
>> more friends.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>>
>>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been
>>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled
>>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of
>>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since
>>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53.
>>>
>>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait
>>> and grab one when they arrive?
>>> Doug
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Well, Raydoes she get the bike, or do you? 😉

Compromise: Get the size you both can use. 

According to the Book of Leah,
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ray Evans  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived today. 
> So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?
> 
>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford  
>> wrote:
>> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a 
>> Mixte. Im in!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
 
>>> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot 
>>> and being in our club. 
>>> 
>>> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  
> wrote:
> 
 Roberta,
 I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have 
 a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. 
 And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. 
 I really like my GT. 
 Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
 leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
 
 So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
 seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. 
 If anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
 Doug 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
> by 2 or 3 fold.
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage 
> that I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health. 
>  Even more friends.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am 
>> settled on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s 
>> custom kind of money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower 
>> top tube since I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>> 
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
>> and grab one when they arrive? 
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Ray Evans

Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived today.
So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford 
wrote:

> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a
> Mixte. Im in!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot
> and being in our club.
>
> So, nothing to see here, move along.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford 
> wrote:
>
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have
> a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike.
> And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I
> really like my GT.
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys.
>
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested.
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> 
> Doug,
>
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!
>
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent
> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably
> by 2 or 3 fold.
>
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months
> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).
> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are
> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy
> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that
> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even
> more friends.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled
>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of
>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since
>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53.
>>
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait
>> and grab one when they arrive?
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Ann, no word on the colors, but we did see the demos in silver, Chameleon Green 
and Appaloosa Orange. Those aren’t set in stone - that’s all I know. 

I so hope your job is secure - I’m sorry for the anxiety that must be plaguing 
you. Truly. 

#RivSisters,
Leah

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> 
> Leah:
> 
> Any word on the colors?  I am very interested.  But unfortunately, I need to 
> wait and see whether I will still have a job in the future before I put in my 
> order.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Doug Hansford

I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a Mixte. 
Im in!!

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> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
> being in our club. 
> 
> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>> 
>> Roberta,
>> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
>> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
>> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I 
>> really like my GT. 
>> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
>> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
>> 
>> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
>> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
>> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> 
>>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
>>> 
>>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
>>> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
>>> by 2 or 3 fold.
>>> 
>>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
>>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
>>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
>>> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
>>> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
>>> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that 
>>> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even 
>>> more friends.
>>> 
>>> Roberta
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
 Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
 looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am 
 settled on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom 
 kind of money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube 
 since I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
 
 So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
 and grab one when they arrive? 
 Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Joe Bernard

"Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
being in our club. 

So, nothing to see here, move along. 
Leah"

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
being in our club. 

So, nothing to see here, move along. 
Leah

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> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really 
> like my GT. 
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
> 
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
> Doug 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Doug,
>> 
>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
>> 
>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
>> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
>> or 3 fold.
>> 
>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd 
>> been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the 
>> best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they 
>> bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm 
>> smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more 
>> friends.
>> 
>> Roberta
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
>>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
>>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since 
>>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>>> 
>>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
>>> and grab one when they arrive? 
>>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Doug Hansford

Roberta,
I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, the 
Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really like 
my GT. 
Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the leap. 
I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 

So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
Doug 

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> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
> or 3 fold.
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months later, 
> a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd been 
> riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the best 
> money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they bring 
> me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm smiling 
> the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more friends.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m 
>> no longer a spring chicken...53.
>> 
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
>> grab one when they arrive? 
>> Doug
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Leah:

Any word on the colors?  I am very interested.  But unfortunately, I need 
to wait and see whether I will still have a job in the future before I put 
in my order.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Roberta

Doug,

Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  

3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
by 2 or 3 fold.

The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that 
I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even 
more friends.

Roberta

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>
> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since 
> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
> and grab one when they arrive? 
> Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Roberta

YES YES YES.   I will order one.  Hopefully in RBW blue.  "Where do I send 
my money?"

Riv will only exist if they can order and sell bikes.  i hear the bike 
market is booming these days.

Oh, I'm so happy.

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 5:57:29 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I have the best news! 
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last 
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been 
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not 
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This 
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw 
> on the Blahg. 
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several 
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like 
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the 
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I 
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These 
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and 
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted 
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not 
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the 
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t 
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase 
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The 
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the 
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike. 
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that - 
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!! 
>  (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.) 
>
> Let’s just let that sink 
> in 
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has 
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving 
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late 
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving 
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in 
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November. 
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their 
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured 
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big 
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes. 
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your 
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are 
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you 
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If 
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been 
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a 
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those 
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these 
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is 
> a club I want to be in. 
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign 
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website? 
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉 
> Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Andrew - excellent! So happy for you.

The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size.
Leah

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> One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b wheels. 
> Is this changing?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Oh, yay, Doug, yes let’ be in the same club! I’m so happy you’re a Man Who 
Wants A Cheviot. I don’t know when the pre-order happens, but at one time they 
said there would be one...

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 3:15 PM, DHans  wrote:
> 
> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m 
> no longer a spring chicken...53. 
> 
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
> grab one when they arrive?
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread DHans

One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b wheels. Is 
this changing?
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread ANDREW ERMAN

I plan on pre-ordering!

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the best news!
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw
> on the Blahg.
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike.
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that -
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!!
> (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.)
>
> Let’s just let that sink
> in
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November.
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is
> a club I want to be in.
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website?
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread DHans

Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been looking 
hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled on spending 
more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of money but a lot 
for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m no longer a spring 
chicken...53. 

So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
grab one when they arrive?
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

I have the best news!

First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last year, I
have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been checking in,
begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not to be. Grant said
that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This Nu-Chev appears to be
what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw on the Blahg.

Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several months (we
know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like this model may
not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the bike but no promises
could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I told myself, possibly
have your mixte made using the custom option. These past 3 months I wrote a lot
of emails asking questions of poor Will and Vince because I knew their factory
time slot was approaching, and I wanted to get in line for a custom mixte with
Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not place their Cheviot order. No real time
estimate can be given until the purchase order is placed. Further complicating
things, the bike wasn’t quite ready - there were some design details to work
out. Until a purchase order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be
made...ever. The custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want
to spend the extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production
bike.

But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that - this
morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!! (I got
Will’s blessing to say this here.)

Let’s just let that sink
in

Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving right
along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late October/early
November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving turkey on the backs of
our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in bows under our Christmas
trees. But we’ll hope for November.

Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their Nu-Cheviot
stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured them into
making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big bike order in the
current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.

So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your objections to
mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot. If you are someone with stimulus
money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you get that reference), you
should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If you are one of my #RivSisters,
well, just look at this bike - It’s been made just for you. I don’t know what
it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a #RivSister say she has anything but heart
eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those
voluminous 700c wheels - these bikes are different than any other Riv model
currently offered and this is a club I want to be in.

Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign up
for the pre-order when it hits the website?

The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-09 Thread Ray Evans

Very nice work!

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:05 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> "Your top tube is lower, but obviously you got inspiration from the other."
>
> Indeed, and this is the first time I've noticed it. I don't know how Grant
> and Mark Nobilette came to that decision but the 'hopping off' height of
> the toptube is perfect for me. Nice work, boys! 👍
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-09 Thread Joe Bernard

"Your top tube is lower, but obviously you got inspiration from the other."

Indeed, and this is the first time I've noticed it. I don't know how Grant and 
Mark Nobilette came to that decision but the 'hopping off' height of the 
toptube is perfect for me. Nice work, boys! 👍

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-09 Thread Roberta

Your top tube is lower, but obviously you got inspiration from the other. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

"Doug: Riv lugged MIT frames go for about $1500 so you can extrapolate from 
there same as on, say, a Sam or Appaloosa build. $3500? That's probably a fair 
guess for the basic Riv Kit if you're buying all new from them."

Funny story: I just read this quote I gave, then looked over at my new custom. 
I paid more than $3500 just for a frame! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Will says the green one is 50cm. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-06 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Joe,
Are those 650b on the green one? Is Riv trying to decide tire size on the 
medium? 

I wonder the designed max tire size. Looking forward to this one for my 
SO... good thing we're same PBH.

shoji
arlington ma

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> Tom, I don't know the size but the saddle was WAY too high for me. I 
> hopped on for a quick ride down the driveway before leaving, I didn't 
> bother looking for a wrench to set it up. I would have knocked it down to 
> about where you see mine on the blue one. But good catch! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-06 Thread masmojo

Yes, I was thinking about this the last couple days; if the 55 is 700 wheels I 
might need to size down as well. My 52 Clementine is honestly big, on the upper 
end of my comfort range, if it was a high frame, I'd be iffy on it.

My Atlantis is a 53 with 26" wheels,  but on the new ones I'd need a 50.

I'll have to think on this some more! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Ah, well that's what I get for a quick ride and not knowing anything about the 
bike I was on. I didn't realize the wheels were 650B. 

Update, Leah: You might fit a 50!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-06 Thread Leah Peterson

I know the silver was the 55 that Grant built up. They ordered Cheviots in 3 
sizes. So, the green might be the 50 and the orange the 60.

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> On May 6, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Nate in Oakland  wrote:
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> I’m thinking the green frame must be smaller than the 55 because I the new 
> 55 takes 700c tires and the grand randoneur tires are 650b only.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-06 Thread Nate in Oakland

I’m thinking the green frame must be smaller than the 55 because I the new 55 
takes 700c tires and the grand randoneur tires are 650b only.

Nate

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Tom, I don't know the size but the saddle was WAY too high for me. I hopped on 
for a quick ride down the driveway before leaving, I didn't bother looking for 
a wrench to set it up. I would have knocked it down to about where you see mine 
on the blue one. But good catch! 

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