[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Hi Ted, I was running the stock 40/32 rings with a Surly Dingle 17/21 fixed cog. I thought the hills were effin' steep. https://flic.kr/p/mMU4bk https://flic.kr/p/4YmkCu I also used an S3X hub and a mountain bike up there. The fixed drivetrain made descents more confidently controllable, I thought, but slower. It was basically all logging roads up, some singletrack traversing and descending, then more logging roads down. It's fun. No table drops, or ripping gravity car runs down the graded road, but fun. All that area is really fun, especially with an off leash dog - they can really run. I did ride in Annadel with fatter tires (Smokes) and the 32x15, too. It's no harder or weirder than any of the other things people on this list do with bikes. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
And for those of you eyeing the China Camp part of the Jamboree/Entmoot, those are good conditions to play with the notion of fixed gear on trails. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Philip, pray tell what are the tooth counts on your dingle and rings, and what % grade are the climbs you ride? On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:38:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: I think riding my Quickbeam fixed on singletrack is fantastic fun. You'd be looking at cyclocross tires for the most part. David is right on with the clearance maxing out a bit over 40mm. I think I have my tire size greed under control now, but it's been 10 years of trimming side knobs and picking gears and chain length to get the over-fat tires centered right at the widest spot in the chain stays. Choosing narrower knibblies will let you move the axle further, which is going to give you easier gearing options. Off-road is when you're going to like the ability to roll a second gear for climbing! I really like the single sided switch - two rings, Dingle cog, quick release hub. Dismount, release the QR, slide the wheel forward, lightly reengage the QR. Shift the chain to the smaller ring or cog (depending on the gear your changing to), get the chain started on the bigger ring or cog, and roll the bike forward. Undo the QR, tension the chain, snug up the QR and ride away. Super fast, like 15 seconds. Especially if you have a Hunqapillar for geared fatter tired gear hauling, but even if it's your only woodsmobile, I think you'd have great fun on a Quickbeam. I don't know how you'd like the buzzing of a White Industries freewheel; the Shimano ones are quieter. Fixed is quietest of all. I think the flared drops we discussed elsethread are a perfect match for a Quickbeam. Once I put the WTB drops on, I've never taken them off. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
I run a pretty big gear on the QB when fixed, but do find that you can climb better than you'd think. There was a site dedicated to this particular pursuit - 63xc.com - which is still viewable. The idea being that a 63 gear is a nice place to start for most fixed trail riding. There are some good references and experiences on that site. Before using the fixed setup off road, I had set up gearing my singlespeed mtb a bit higher than the 2:1 you generally see recommended, so I was already a bit used to pushing a big gear on trails. But, then again, I definitely get off and rest, get off and push, and lapse into Tourette's/Sailor level of cursing from time to time. It is part of my practice, though. So, use only what makes sense to you. - Jim / cyclofiend.com On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:18:03 PM UTC-7, ted wrote: Philip, pray tell what are the tooth counts on your dingle and rings, and what % grade are the climbs you ride? On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:38:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: I think riding my Quickbeam fixed on singletrack is fantastic fun. You'd be looking at cyclocross tires for the most part. David is right on with the clearance maxing out a bit over 40mm. I think I have my tire size greed under control now, but it's been 10 years of trimming side knobs and picking gears and chain length to get the over-fat tires centered right at the widest spot in the chain stays. Choosing narrower knibblies will let you move the axle further, which is going to give you easier gearing options. Off-road is when you're going to like the ability to roll a second gear for climbing! I really like the single sided switch - two rings, Dingle cog, quick release hub. Dismount, release the QR, slide the wheel forward, lightly reengage the QR. Shift the chain to the smaller ring or cog (depending on the gear your changing to), get the chain started on the bigger ring or cog, and roll the bike forward. Undo the QR, tension the chain, snug up the QR and ride away. Super fast, like 15 seconds. Especially if you have a Hunqapillar for geared fatter tired gear hauling, but even if it's your only woodsmobile, I think you'd have great fun on a Quickbeam. I don't know how you'd like the buzzing of a White Industries freewheel; the Shimano ones are quieter. Fixed is quietest of all. I think the flared drops we discussed elsethread are a perfect match for a Quickbeam. Once I put the WTB drops on, I've never taken them off. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s) and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog). The 63 XC site has some interesting features including one about the conversion of a KHS track bike into a 559-wheeled all rounder and the old British man who makes extremely powerful drum brakes. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: I run a pretty big gear on the QB when fixed, but do find that you can climb better than you'd think. There was a site dedicated to this particular pursuit - 63xc.com - which is still viewable. The idea being that a 63 gear is a nice place to start for most fixed trail riding. There are some good references and experiences on that site. Before using the fixed setup off road, I had set up gearing my singlespeed mtb a bit higher than the 2:1 you generally see recommended, so I was already a bit used to pushing a big gear on trails. But, then again, I definitely get off and rest, get off and push, and lapse into Tourette's/Sailor level of cursing from time to time. It is part of my practice, though. So, use only what makes sense to you. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s) and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog). 60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right? Now that is sensitivity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Pea for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
No doubt a good part of the difference was the shorter cranks. I remember taking the 60 fixed gear with 175s for the first and only time on a flat, smooth bike path, for fewer than 5 miles, and getting so frustrated with the awkward pedaling that very literally the next thing I did with the bike was to swap in a smaller cog and 170 cranks, which made the bike -- the old Diamond Back 26er -- a very, very nice ride. The new gear was IIRC about 64. The later Monocog 29er with the 39X18X29 wheels and 170 road cranks was also much better. But crank length apart, yes, I can tell the difference between a 60 gear and a 63 gear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echQxJZe-wA On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s) and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog). 60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right? Now that is sensitivityhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Peafor sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echQxJZe-wA Doubtless part of the difference was the 175 mm cranks but yes, I can tell the difference. On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 04/04/2014 09:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I tried a 60 fixed gear off road, with 175 mm cranks (I am used to 170s) and hated it -- useless flailing to get nowhere; lower was even worse. But a 63 ss was just right for my riding: few steep and long hills, and fewer steep, long hills with deep sand. The 63 gear (on the Monocog 29er I owned) allowed me to cruise at 18 mph on smooth surfaces but was low enough to bull through (flat) sandy stretches and to climb long, gradual hills easily, and to climb short, steep hills with a sufficient effort. 170 mm cranks (130s, as a matter of fact, with a 39 t ring and an 18 t cog). 60 is so low it feels like useless flailing and 63 is Just Right? Now that is sensitivityhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Peafor sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
That's twice 1.5, which is what one tooth on the ring does, and that's not picky. Going up three in front and up one in back takes the gear up .5. Now if that were make or break, that might be sensitive. But 3 is certainly not trivial. My curiosity is because the climbs in my local open space have my diving to gears several 10s of inches lower than what I typically run on my simple one. I suspect we're I to go up there with the SO I'd be walking basically the whole way up, even if I had a dingle and two rings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Having discovered the joys of riding a cross-ish setup bike ('86 B-stone
T700 w/ mustache bars) on our local offroad offerings, a 40-32 XD double
just arrived from Rivbike for the S1. I think the fatter tires than 27x1
3/8 and the simpler nature of gearing will make it tons o fun offroad.
On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:35:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
How would a QB/SO be as a single speed mountain bike? What are the tire
clearances and what knobbies are there within that clearance?
I’m just playing and dreaming with where my riding has gone and wondering
how it meshes with the single speed dream.
With abandon,
Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
I'll second the El Mariachi recommendation. I've got a second generation steel El Mariachi with the sliding dropouts. I had it set up as a single speed for awhile, then built up a wheel around a Shimano Nexus 3 speed internal hub, which I treat like a single speed with a bail out gear, and a go-fast gear. Everybody said it wouldn't work, or that it would break, but its awesome. Most fun I've ever had on a mountain bike. Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Some pictures of BG 43mm Rock 'n Roads on my 66cm QuickBeam. They just... barely... fit... and while they didn't rub, I was worried they would be too tight if any mud or rim wobble happened. https://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/7531752382/ While I still have Jack Blues on there now, and they've been fine on hard-packed dirt, there's a pair of 38mm Soma C-Lines from OceanAir ready to go on, which I look forward to testing on some softer surfaces. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
I think it has a lot to do with where you find your challenges. Back when I first got enthralled by cyclocross and the bicycles, I started venturing onto more and more challenging trails. What I found is that the technique is very different. The closest I can describe (if you have ever fished) is light tackle fishing - you generally cannot muscle through things the way you can when riding 2 tires. Your line becomes very important. Most of the first trail riding I did on 700C/622 wheelsets used 30-35 mm knibblie tires - CX tires. Some of the 30's were really more like 28's. These days, I'm actually riding Jack Browns over almost everything, maintaining very odd internal dialogues about how tire placement and center of gravity are much more important than tread. I also end up suddenly pondering the sky from time to time, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend that. At the same time I was first messing with CX bikes, I was also setting up my first singlespeed. (I've mentioned this before, but it was an El Nino year here in CA, and I was literally melting drivetrains on the trails.) These two streams finally got crossed when I got my Quickbeam. Now, I'll say that I've ridden a lot of trails, and learned to mtb on long, rigid frames. So, I'm not really learning trail technique as much as expanding it. And it depends a lot upon the trails you ride. A nice swoopy forest singletrack is a fine place to try this out. The local technical, boulder roller, throat-clencher not so much. Small tires can beat you up a bit, as the cushion isn't there. Plus, I tend to ride higher tire pressures because I really dislike flatting on trails. But, in the end, I like simple systems. I like the consistency of knowing that the climb is the same, the bike is the same, and the variable is how I feel on a given day. I love the silence (and generally increase that by running fixed). You don't get there the same way. You don't follow the same lines. Kinda like life. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Here are 2 pics of my QB on the trail. One has 38mm knobs, and the other has 40mm Marathons: https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/2041112320/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5604642330/ You can't fit much wider than that with knobbies. I'm curious what you think a QB would give you that your Hunq doesn't, other than the chance to walk-a-bike more. I'm all for SS'ing, but if you put any kind of load on it, you will spend a lot more time pushing uphill than riding. Even without a load, it can feel a bit masochistic at times. I'm not saying that pejoratively, it's just the reality of mountain single speeding in my experience. Also, at heart the QB is a road bike. I like the feel of a road bike on dirt, but it's not for everyone. And I have a rigid 29er with disc brakes for really rigorous mountain rides. happy trails jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Great questions, Jim. it would (perhaps, someday) be my go light/fast mountain bike. I imagine David is right, and it's a Salsa or Surly that makes sense down the road. At this point all dream, no reality. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:54:50 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote: Here are 2 pics of my QB on the trail. One has 38mm knobs, and the other has 40mm Marathons: https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/2041112320/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5604642330/ You can't fit much wider than that with knobbies. I'm curious what you think a QB would give you that your Hunq doesn't, other than the chance to walk-a-bike more. I'm all for SS'ing, but if you put any kind of load on it, you will spend a lot more time pushing uphill than riding. Even without a load, it can feel a bit masochistic at times. I'm not saying that pejoratively, it's just the reality of mountain single speeding in my experience. Also, at heart the QB is a road bike. I like the feel of a road bike on dirt, but it's not for everyone. And I have a rigid 29er with disc brakes for really rigorous mountain rides. happy trails jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
I created a very nice fixed/ss mountain bike with an ENO hub on a very nice early '90s Diamond Back Axis Team. With 559X60 mm Big Aples the handling was outstanding. A 10 cm Dirt Drop stem put the Noodles about 3 cm below saddle with plenty -- at least 1.5 inch -- of quill remaining below the surface -- and this on such a short steerer tube that I couldn't use a high-stack headset. I wish I'd kept it. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Great questions, Jim. it would (perhaps, someday) be my go light/fast mountain bike. I imagine David is right, and it's a Salsa or Surly that makes sense down the road. At this point all dream, no reality. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 31, 2014 7:54:50 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote: Here are 2 pics of my QB on the trail. One has 38mm knobs, and the other has 40mm Marathons: https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/2041112320/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5604642330/ You can't fit much wider than that with knobbies. I'm curious what you think a QB would give you that your Hunq doesn't, other than the chance to walk-a-bike more. I'm all for SS'ing, but if you put any kind of load on it, you will spend a lot more time pushing uphill than riding. Even without a load, it can feel a bit masochistic at times. I'm not saying that pejoratively, it's just the reality of mountain single speeding in my experience. Also, at heart the QB is a road bike. I like the feel of a road bike on dirt, but it's not for everyone. And I have a rigid 29er with disc brakes for really rigorous mountain rides. happy trails jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?
Gotta agree with Jim. I love my simple one, and it's great on pavement or dirt, but if your mntn biking involves mountains I prefer to have a geared bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
