[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Oops. You’re right. My wife’s PBH is 2-2.5 INCHES lower than mine; several more than 2 centimeters. I’m between 83 and 84 cm, my wife is right around 77. Also, “slammed” is probably not a helpful term for me to have used - probably more accurate to say that we set the saddle (Cambium C19) low enough for my wife (77PBH) to be able to ride the 52 Clem that I would be surprised if someone with 74PBH could get the saddle low enough to work. But I could certainly be wrong. I suppose, as was pointed out, that if 74 is within Riv’s range it could work. My Clem is an H, as well, but stand over height is not an issue for my wife even then, and the L eliminates that as a concern altogether, of course. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
My partner and I did this for a while with a 60cm Cheviot. She's 5' 6" and I'm 6' 4". It worked but it wasn't really ideal, too much compromise in fit and even though it only took a few minutes to adjust the bars and saddle I just got tired of having to futz with the bike all the time. If you do decide to do it swept back bars like ablas are essential imo otherwise the reach disparity will probably be an issue. It was amazing that we could share a bike though given the difference in our height. One other thing was even though she technically fit in terms of saddle height and being able to reach the bars the bike always seemed too big for her, it was hard for her to handle such a long bike and get it in and out of our apartment. If your wife only rides once a month or so it might be fine. I think Adam's advice is good. My partner loves her medium MB-1. It has swept back riser bars, a front rack with basket, and easy gears. It fits her great and most importantly it's HERS. She has gotten into working on it some and adding her own touches. She is stoked and so am I. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Not that familiar with the Clem, but I was able to fit fine on my wife's Betty Foy, I have a PBH of 91 hers is much less closer to 74 as I recall. The bike was sized by Kevin for her dimensions only. I just use a 410mm seat post and my own B17 to ride it. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Sean, check the "WTB 52 Clem L" thread, somebody mentioned having a first edition blue one. I've seen that color live in person and it looks great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
If you want the lowest seat possible, use a straight seatpost with a standard separate seatpost clamp. Rotate the rail clamps 180 degrees from where most people have them so that they are below the clamp through bolt instead of above it. You can put the seat about an inch lower with this method - the seat rails are almost touching the top of the seat tube. Laing Cocoa, FL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Good point, Sean, that is indeed a B17..I don't use any other saddles so I forgot about the height they carry. I just matched up a beater Cambium I have and you're right about the difference, this just might work! You might as well snag a 52 L and try it, the worst that can happen is you'll still need to buy her another bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I don't see why this doesn't have a good chance of working. I'm 5' 10" and a52 was fine. I can't do pics at lunch but I am pretty sure there was room to drop the saddle enough for a 5' 2" rider. The bike was designed around Boscos so I don't see reach being a problem if you go with those. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
If it were me, I'd build up an early 90s mountain bike with bosco's and flat pedals and easy gearing and a basket, buy the 59 clem (that fits you best), and call it a day. even though the clem L is cheaper than your custom rando, it's still a nice, expensive bike that there's no reason to sacrifice anything on. this way you won't have to deal with any annoying swaps or spend too much on something if your s/o doesn't end up using it as much as you anticipated. i am roughly your size and just got a 59 clem L and it's pretty amazing. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Joe, that's a really helpful pic, thanks! I see why you have reservations about the 52 working for my wife. In the end, I totally get the advice, and appreciate it. Any incarnation of a 52 Clem for my wife would be pushing it, and I know the mantra, the best bike is the one that fits. With that out of the way, and because this is fun to dream about, even if not realistic, is that a standard B17 on there? The B17 is ~2.5cm taller than the Cambium I'd put on the Clem, so that buys a bit for the amount of seatpost we could play with. It'd be tight, there's no denying it... On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:24:43 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yeah, there's something off about Cam's numbers. My PBH is close to his > wife's and this is what my 52 H looked like, saddle at 69-70cm. These pics > also show why I think the bike is too tall for *your* wife, especially if > you get a complete with the stock 173mm cranks. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/5xoNvM8YyUq6fpes6 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Yeah, there's something off about Cam's numbers. My PBH is close to his wife's and this is what my 52 H looked like, saddle at 69-70cm. These pics also show why I think the bike is too tall for *your* wife, especially if you get a complete with the stock 173mm cranks. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5xoNvM8YyUq6fpes6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Cam, I'm kinda shocked that you have to slam the seatpost on the Clem for your wife with an 81cm PBH when Riv states that folks with PBH starting at 74 can ride the Clem, that's a 7cm difference. Do you have a super tall sprung saddle on?? The seat tube is 52cm C-T, right? On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:50:11 AM UTC-5, cam starnes wrote: > > my wife and i currently “share” a 52c clem. it’s my bike, but when we ride > together with our two kids i’m usually the one pulling the kids (xtracycle > edgerunner, and it’s awesome), and she rides my bike because she prefers it > to her own. works well, honestly, we just move the seat up and down a lot. > however, my wife is 5’6” with a PBH of 81 and we basically have the > seatpost slammed for her. so, my concern would be that even shoved all the > way down to the rails of the seatpost the 52 clem might still be too tall > for your wife. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
For a data point, my wife was able to ride my Schwinn High Sierra without any complaints. It measures at 20" (~50.8cm) C-T seattube TT is 56.5cm, and at the time was outfitted with a 120mm Deluxe steam and Albatross bars. So, my thinking was, add 1 cm to the seat tube, I'll check and see how her saddle height was on the High Sierra, but, it has the monstrously tall original Viscount foam saddle. A lower profile saddle would effectively gain her a cm or two. Honestly, I'm more worried about reach than saddle height. She seemed fine with the Albas, but the 52 Clem has a TT almost 5cm longer. I'm guessing this could negated with a 100mm stem and some Choco bars. I don't know, if Grant can ride a 60cm Cheviot, which the Riv chart would have him barely squeezing on, and call it his smoothest riding, nearly favorite bike, I wonder why the same couldn't happen with my wife and the 52 Clem L? Something to chew on I guess... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I have to say, this is an experiment I'd like to see happen. Not sure why everyone is nay-saying it. The Riv geometry charts have both of your PBH within that range, and I always think Grant is conservative in making those. If you can get to a 52 Clem, why not test it out? And everyone saying such and such height difference will never work, hogwash. Bike share bikes are designed to fit people from 4'10" to 6'5". Clearly bikes can be designed to fit a wide range of sizes and it looks like Rivendell did that with the Clem L. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I can't effectively ride any of my wife's bikes and she really can't ride mine and our height discrepancies are less than yours. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:49:23 PM UTC-5, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Alas, seems like this wouldn't work out. Riv technically starts at the 52 at a PBH of 74, so I thought with my wife only being 5mm off, perhaps she could squeeze it. I did think about cockpit swap where I would use ergons and thumb shifters so I could switch over without recabling, so you and I were on the same page there, Ed! I'd have to sell my Nobilette rando to afford two Rivs, so I think I'll just keep looking for an old ATB to convert for my foul weather commuter, and continue to fix up the '94 RBT for my wife. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I am 5'10" with an 83.5cm PBH, and I ride a 52cm Clem H comfortably. My wife is 5'5" with a much lower saddle height, and she rides a 52cm Clem L with the seat slammed. But for someone 5'0", even with an un-suspended saddle, I don't think it's going to work. And, as Ed points out, you'll both need very different bars. I don't think this is a good idea. Get her a small one, get yourself a medium one. Everyone will be happier with a his-n-hers setup. Besides, if you can find one with the "Clementine" decals, it's super cute to have Clem and Clementine out on a ride. /Jeremy On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
