[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
We're far enough into this now that the end of pandemic, or at least "opening" is even a topic. I've sure had some collected thoughts. It's quiet. Air travel has clearly diminished to the point that I look up at every plane that's on its long approach to the airport, 20 miles to the west. Traffic is sparse and I can't help but see those out driving and wonder what essential function they represent with their travel or if they don't care and are just doing what they want. I'm amazed by the large numbers resoundingly represented by the emptiness of the streets. Like other social norms, degrees of individual adoption of instructions and information are visible. Being in healthcare I realize my professional practice make me a critic of degrees of protective preparation for public tasks if not to standard. The open display of waste using disposable PPE incorrectly, without it having a chance of providing the benefit potential to users who wear them, is maddening. Worse are those who appear to elevate PPE like a spiritual protective icon and display such poor discipline in public that they must believe in supernatural powers of their nitrile gloves, face shield masks and (i'm not kidding) ponchos. People want to believe in something and this situation has made it visible in public. Brand names or branded items had been a way people differentiated themselves, now it seems to be the procurement and display of PPE. I learned and used closed loop communication in critical moments in the military and healthcare. It gives closure and verification that what you said was heard, acknowledged, responded to in act and completed. It's ingrained enough in me that I think the public health posture at all levels needs to look at what they see on the street as their feedback because they won't see much of their message being acknowledged intact. I hope the quiet majority who are out of sight, at home, not touching things, not flaunting disposable PPE but rather preserving them for the moments when its precious use is necessary or using alternatives like bandannas suffice. Makes me think of Hopi Kachina dolls that are given to those who will be respectful and care for them responsibly. I ride my bike to and from work because it provides opportunity to connect with the world while separating from both home and work while en route. Most people at the end of a hard day have a little black cloud over their head that goes right into their car with them to go home, little chance for separation. I enjoy what the dark, the cold and the wet contribute to those ends. Even more so these days. I have found a much more clear appreciation of cycling these days and to my observation, so have many others. they are doing it in pursuit of the act itself, in normal clothes, going places. The performance riders in their kit and spacebikes seem to have reverted to Peloton in their basements. We've "quarranteamed" with our young friend in her last semester of nursing school. As the pandemic got foothold in the US and local actions were imminent we reached out and invited to her to spend it with us at our house for a number of practical and psychological reasons. It's been very helpful for all of us to have a bit bigger table set for for meals and daily life. She did insist on bringing her bike and we have been on many rides to maintain perspective. I have had a lot of thoughts on cycling for myself these weeks and I hope as things resolve and open up I'll be able to realize them, with great value. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:20:52 PM UTC-4, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
This thread has drifted a bit from my perception of the Rivendell ethos. We all have frustrations whether with vehicles or other road and trail users, and I appreciate that the shelter in place measures are affecting more urban people in very different ways than they are affecting me. The Golden Gate Bridge is my ultimate model of MUP conflict. We stay in the city fairly often during better times, and I follow the migration across to Marin to ride the Headlands. For me, negotiating the bridge is time to relax and let it flow. Being patient and being kind to the other users on the bridge is very much akin to stopping for red lights on the city streets--it slows you down so not every bike rider does it. Efforts to promote bike riding as a happy and healthy way to travel suffer from our impatience. When I'm working my way across the bridge among the throngs of tourists on rented bikes (also mixed with the pedestrians on weekdays), I treat it like people watching time. Most of those people probably haven't ridden a bike in ten years or more, and though many of them come from freezing winter climates, I enjoy seeing them bundled up in the mid-60s fog and wind. They've made the choice to try one of the more challenging and immersive activities available on their visit. Yes, they can be clueless to the needs of locals trying to travel. Well meaning attempts to communicate and share the space can easily fail at that density, but sometimes they way they are treated by rushed bikers can be downright horrible. How much goodwill for biking is lost when we can't bring ourselves to slow down, smile, wave, and be kind to others. I've always found a cheerful "Hello!" from an adequate distance and speed for a response to be the most effective way to let folks know I'm coming. Sorry for the Pollyanna-ish rant. Go ahead and vent a bit if it helps you to be kind in person. I expect that is the case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b2be1967-a117-4f9f-b833-cbc6a938bec2%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I’ve been hiking more, and I’m finding tons more trail riders than previously. I’ve noticed that those riders expect me to move off the trail into the weeds to make space and that I can smell their “slipstream” for several minutes after they pass. Just sayin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/84af66ad-a563-45e6-8b74-cf666c15d854%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I too thought I was offended by whatby whom ? Yes . whatever was convenient ! And so I played along with "I'm so offended" offensive and I took offense to being so offended ! And so began a chain reaction of "I'm so offended" ... it seemed the whole world was "I'm so offended" and everyone took offense to their own offensiveness with "I'm so offended". Well that's quite a quandary, huh ? A no-win situation. It reminds me of that song "Signs" ... "Sign sign everywhere a sign do this don't do that can't you read the sign ?" Yeah every sign sez "I'm so offended do not enter... ride here ... no, the other here do this ... no, don't do that, do this instead and when you get there ... I'll be offended and tell you where to go and of course when you arrive I'll greet you with another sign... you guessed it I'm so offended what are you doing here anyways ? Don't listen to me ... you shouldn't have followed that sign back there do you hear me I'm so offended you're listening ... oh how could you oh how could you not ! " It's like a role reversal of a Zoo ... now the animals are all free to roam around by nature ... and all the "helpers" have imprisoned themselves wondering why the animals aren't listening to them. Ahahahahahaaa ... I know your Heart is laughing with all of this ! So Sing A Song . . . . . It'll make you dance . . . . and the dance will make you Sing . . . Forever Self-Affirming . . . See . . . there is no wrong way to turn as Music fills All Space . An Earth Wind & Fire Song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMSj7gDEGs I can honestly say that I have never "learned" anything , because under the Light of Truth it's obvious that Intelligence is Indivisible. There was never anything to teach or learn as Intelligence never forget Itself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7be53be-ab58-4a28-b1f6-5cd314d04cb8%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
LBleriot wrote: "Having participated in another online memorial for a friend lost to the pandemic, I’ve learned to appreciate every day I get to spend with my family. I work for a healthcare system in the middle of the crisis, and I’ve learned from doctors and nurses what brave really means. I’ve learned that riding my bike is both meaningless and means everything right now." Healthcare workers are taking such risks and paying the price of those risks. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Thank you for all you do. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/af60f1cb-7189-4023-8189-73bf58ee8e64%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Interesting new scars?! Did you get hit by a car??? I’ve been wanting to chime back in here again about more new things I’m learning. 1. I despise vehicles. I thought I disliked them before but I despise them now. It’s been quieter on the roads and I’ve been enjoying audiobooks with my air pods, and you know what? Cars go screaming by me so loudly that I can’t hear my books. And my Apple Watch alerts me that the decibels I’m experiencing will cause eventual hearing loss. I wonder how many of us have or will have some damage to our hearing from the noise of traffic. 2. While I’d never hurt a pedestrian, I am in favor of making them uncomfortable when they deserve it. Now, I am sure some of you will want to chastise me, but don’t bother because it will fall on my increasingly deaf ears. I usually have the paths to myself, but in quarantine people are out in droves. Initially, I’d smooth over all the situations where pedestrians were wildly out of etiquette. I was out there apologizing when they were in the wrong lane and I was approaching, more apologizing when they didn’t understand the bell, apologizing when their off-leash dog lunged for me in passing, apologizing if they startled as I passed by... Now I’m getting tougher out there, because I’ve had enough. Last night, I’m on a paved MUP and the couple in front of me (and their dog) are taking up the ENTIRE path. This path is WIDE, meant for two-way traffic, and the couple’s roving was extreme. He’s one one side, she and the dog are on the other and all 3 of them are weaving. Though this MUP is a 2-way, I cannot pass by. I’m riding uphill and hate to break momentum, but I slow w down and wait for them to notice me. The husband darts off to the right and the wife looks irritated with me and freezes. I ride by silently and slowly, refusing to diffuse the situation with words or a smile. I’m sure they felt caught off-guard. I’m sure it was uncomfortable. Good. They are on a shared path and they aren’t sharing. After being startled maybe they’ll pay attention and be courteous. Now, if you are a child, anything goes. Those little buggers are out there with their scooters, bikes, plasma cars, strollers, wagons and Power Wheels. They’re careening all over and veering and swerving and causing mayhem. And I will smile and wave at them all. 殺 Go wild, munchkins! Leah Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf wrote: Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:57 PM, aeroperf wrote: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/E06ABBA8-953B-48AE-9D72-F83E6A9573A4%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Having participated in another online memorial for a friend lost to the pandemic, I’ve learned to appreciate every day I get to spend with my family. I work for a healthcare system in the middle of the crisis, and I’ve learned from doctors and nurses what brave really means. I’ve learned that riding my bike is both meaningless and means everything right now. On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:20:52 PM UTC-4, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/36b182ca-ef6a-4747-859a-2f4cae9e8e0c%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I see people discovering they can move in normal clothes: hiking, running, biking in non-athletic apparel. That is a delight to see! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d6a811d0-f96a-4af9-99c3-3b649628e31f%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Cobb and Paulding counties, GA, re-opened the Silver Comet Trail today. I’ll avoid talking about the wisdom of re-opening Georgia, but re-opening the Comet was definitely interesting. I suddenly understand the comments about trails being crowded. Leah’s comment about “roving cattle” who “don’t understand bells” suddenly makes a LOT of sense. There were a LOT of new bikers out. People with new shiny bikes and no clue how to ride them - and that’s kind of OK because the more people that come out with bikes, even badly, the better chance of more bike trails. But… whew. On the other hand, Atlanta is so bike-unfriendly on the roads… my chances of getting hit by a car on the roads dropped from 50% to 49% during the shelter-in-place. I have some interesting new scars, and I’m glad the Comet is open again. So what I learned is that, in Atlanta, ride on the paths/sidewalks, not on the roads, and appreciate the trails. While the shelter-in-place was in effect, I’ve been building up a new bike with help from my LBS. This week they told me to do it myself because they were getting swamped with building new orders. This is a good thing, too, because If even a few percent stick with it, that, too, increases the user base. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8ee38e09-d941-4c17-9fc3-dd5dc0cab316%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Everything... by Self-Nature of Existence Existing, is Wonder-Full . Enjoy your Ride today , it's never the same twice ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/00261ece-ac62-4f92-91e9-e06a7844518c%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Everything... by Self-Nature of Existence Existing, is Alright . and there isn't anything "else", more or less. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/52d42cbb-9fde-4984-b268-c86ff1f95f1d%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Monday eve 5-7:30 went for walk in woods and drove into our small town and it was dead in the park on the trails and in town, and the weather was just as good. So I guess it really was just Sunday drivers I should avoid. I will have to take that into account, by the weekend people are too cooped up to stay in the house with the kids. Maybe need to shift my telecommute and ride more in the week and avoid the weekends. On 4/20/20, Joe Bernard wrote: > "I think people packed the kids in the cars and just drove them around > aimlessly." > > I do this, I drive more now than I did in the before time. Just to be > somewhere not in the house. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZkEfsUBpoEw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/034b8df1-7b15-420f-8bc7-bf97dcf0cdd6%40googlegroups.com. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAN94-v_kQrycR9O0ajZ3YjPXC%3DB3M5K6BFdzE1i5fBasT5Q6mA%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
"I think people packed the kids in the cars and just drove them around aimlessly." I do this, I drive more now than I did in the before time. Just to be somewhere not in the house. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/034b8df1-7b15-420f-8bc7-bf97dcf0cdd6%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Yes, the increase in crazy and faster driving was almost instant in St. Louis. I usually drive 10 over, and I was getting passed on city streets that aren’t passing types of streets. I think part of it may be that some of our good driving habits are really us reacting to what’s going on. For instance, I’ve ran way more red lights in-intentionally in the middle of the night when no traffic was around than I have in normal daytime traffic. On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:20:52 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b4e3cbec-5d2e-4214-80f5-214d28d9f7a0%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Yesterday (Sunday) there was a lot of cars out unlike last week, I think people packed the kids in the cars and just drove them around aimlessly. (Dang Sunday Drivers) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ca5e624e-3b5c-4e77-bf36-e34ccaa3cb43%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I've noticed the freeways here are heavily patrolled lately. The Highway Patrol has less wrecks to attend to and plenty of speeders to catch. Fish in a barrel! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c7eab05c-4c92-4745-9ef2-6df98e88f9ad%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Even pre covid I noticed that drivers accustomed to driving slower than they would like due to traffic seem to drive as possible. Absent traffic the foot goes to the floor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5614525e-7dcb-4688-909f-39aa27098c79%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
One thing I've learned, living in an urban environment (Boston) that has very aggressively built bicycle and ped infrastructure over the years, and reduced vehicle speed by lowering speed limits (25 mph limit in Somerville, 20mph limit in Cambridge), installing traffic calming devices, etc, is that with far fewer drivers on the roads, they're all DRIVING MUCH FASTER and more carelessly. So while the streets seems safer and quieter with reduced traffic, the traffic that there is is more dangerous. Seems counter-intuitive, but that's what I'm noticing as I bike around the city. That's what I've learned. Anton velolumino.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a9ce0ec6-2eed-4aec-9865-7044921bcd9e%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I’ve been thinking about this for over a week, and finally collected my thoughts enough to write about it. ‘ It’s complicated, but here it is. https://pipesbikesandleather.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=218=edit On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:20:52 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78ee520c-6f3e-4f8c-9f2f-f3f312d002cd%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
i've learned that government can be incredibly stupid. I guess I already knew that but this confirms it. On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:20:52 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b64f8f61-74d4-4604-997f-75d81ca86b48%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Good topic. The biggest change in my personal riding has been to ride more directly from home which gives me more time to play (usually poke around and take pictures) on the way. There's a lot of life in between the cracks if you stop and really look. I've been working with friends to expand the Motherlode Bicycle Coalition to encourage and facilitate biking of all types in our rural counties, and that effort is pretty much 100% on hold. I've had a blog for years describing local rides (Tuolumne Bikes), and while I've heard from many how helpful it was to them, the MLBC had scheduled our first season of pop up rides to build community and encourage folks to get their bikes out of the garage. All cancelled. Thankfully, we hadn't purchased insurance yet. The point is "Join us for a ride" is a much more compelling message than "Here's some places to ride", and making that transition is a big push out of the comfort zone for me and for many other rural riders that are used to just going. The current situation makes it extra clear how much we depend on each other and our communities to make biking more appealing and approachable for others. The flip side of the reduction in traffic. >>Fellow riders on the road are actually friendly. I think they are slowing down enough (re: not concerned about PBs, or whatever their electronic tracking devices are telling them) to wave and say hi. It is refreshing. CalBike is promoting "Waving Wednesdays". With any luck it would catch on and people wouldn't be able to remember what day it is and wave anyway. Don't see this going very far on Market Street in San Francisco. We wave here--hey there's someone else on a bike! Works for cars too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/04011c8f-925b-4536-9e19-530f778e1bd2%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
This reminds me that, while there are more cyclists on the paved roads and dirt paths nowadays, and this includes more riders on more-or-less road bikes -- drop bars, narrowish tires -- I seem to see fewer (sorry if I offend sensibilities) carbon fiber freds than I did pre-coronavirus. Perhaps this is simply that they are riding solo instead of together, and thus get diluted by the family and casual crowd. Not that I don't have remnants of fredly attitudes myself, but "with age cometh wisdom." (No, wisdom does not require you to relinquish drop bars 4 cm below saddle. I find those comfortable.) On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:39 PM Mike Godwin wrote: > Fellow riders on the road are actually friendly. I think they are slowing > down enough (re: not concerned about PBs, or whatever their electronic > tracking devices are telling them) to wave and say hi. It is refreshing. > ... > -- --- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsdpkOz-jWpVG00FjqWrb2EVJqYmZ_%3DYNfwEZLfV7XWMQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I didn't read all if what Will wrote, but I mentioned something similar to a friend of mine weeks earlier. Reduced traffic is nice and yes I have noticed small gaggles of families out riding; kids on bikes they've grown out of already & their overweight parents squirming around on top of saddles they clearly haven't come to terms with. I refrain from being too snarky, because at least they are "out there" & if bike riding "sticks" for even a small percentage that is a pretty good shot in the arm for cycling in general. The young couple that lives across the alley from me just got bikes; I saw them out riding the other day together, then just yesterday I saw the girl riding by herself and I thought to myself "ah ha" This quarantine/social distancing thing came only a couple weeks after losing my job, so I was already adjusting to my new normal, but it's added new layers. I am very goal oriented and riding to work/ having a destination challenged me, gave me focus. Without that purpose I am somewhat adrift. The idea of riding "in circles" only for exercise or recreation is sort of hollow for me, so I try more to challenge myself which has mostly translated into more miles. Yesterday I ran errands AND cranked out 26 miles! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8ea013b6-77d0-4d61-9172-05285fae%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I've experienced, in cycling all over Seattle over the last couple weeks (as well as during a trip last week to LA), a glimpse into a futuristic low carbon economy where an abundance of fresh air exists in the dirtiest of metropolises. Unreal! ( there's a nasa study floating around showing densely populated areas in China with 30% lower levels than usual of nitrogen dioxide ) On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3e46ab0d-6b4c-4add-80c7-91f5b13f8ce8%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Fellow riders on the road are actually friendly. I think they are slowing down enough (re: not concerned about PBs, or whatever their electronic tracking devices are telling them) to wave and say hi. It is refreshing. I learned the ocean is more blue today. Rode to Montana de Oro park, the water was stunningly blue. It is perhaps less particulates in the air and less light scattering in lower atmosphere - greens and blues so brilliant. Mike SLO CA On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e869e1d5-9e2c-4bec-a8e0-2db73da2db53%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I don't have anything bike related - nor particularly uplifting - to add, I've just learned how stunningly fast the world can change into something almost unrecognizable. We're a few weeks into the Stay At Home directives in California and honestly I think I'm still a little in shock by how *different* things are. But to finish on an uplifting note, I love the story Leah told about the gardeners cheering her up the hill. There's so much hopefulness and joy in that -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a92e840c-4f28-45a3-a48f-c5171274ebee%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
No field, but live adjacent to many wooded walking roads and paths, and while evening rush hour auto traffic is like 1 pm on an ordinary weekday, weekday trail traffic is like that of a pleasant Sunday morning in mid Spring or mid Fall; and there are indeed more families than usual, even for Sunday mornings in regular times. And dare I say that people seem friendlier than before? I've learned to take less-traveled roads and trails, though ... Of course, "heavy traffic" here is probably like 2 am on, say, the Venice (CA) beach trail. On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 5:31 PM George Schick wrote: > I'd take this topic in a different direction. In an e-mail post from Riv > today, while hoping for the best in the future for those financially > impacted by the public shut-downs, Will discussed the sort of positive > effects - lesser vehicle traffic on favorite routes, etc. My property > backs up to a large public park and instead of what I would normally be > seeing this time of year - parents standing along the sidelines of soccer > fields with their designer stainless coffee mugs filled with Starbucks, > their noses planted in their smart phones - what I'm seeing this Spring is > some of those same parents out in the park actually playing with their > children. In that regard, it's a refreshing thing to see. > > -- --- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgsmXCJvzwB3UYxg92qL_nvFf5t93EmwV8KO%2BAfQVvRiiA%40mail.gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
Things I have learned. Random, but they’ve made an impression. 1. Patience on “my” trails. I’m used to moving about with very few folks in the way. Now that everyone is sick of being home, they have taken to tje trails and are like roving cattle on the MUP. They don’t understand bells. I’ve decided I just can’t ever be mad, and I have to be really careful. We’ll all just have to get along. 2. Kids are learning to bike really late. You can see kids who are 8-9 and really don’t know how to ride a bike yet. I bet I can count on one hand the kids that are on bikes that fit. It makes me so sad. But maybe they will fall in love with biking now that they are out and pedaling! 3. It’s a good time to cheer for your fellow man; we all need some uplifting. I’ve been letting folks know their kids are darling, their dogs are adorable, etc. The gardeners do me a solid every day when I bike up Killer Hill; they’re on their lunch break as I ride up and they cheer and clap and once I got a standing ovation! It feels so good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a1c7e5ff-3e1b-4fff-87c3-860d1b2bf814%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: What have you learned during the isolation?
I'd take this topic in a different direction. In an e-mail post from Riv today, while hoping for the best in the future for those financially impacted by the public shut-downs, Will discussed the sort of positive effects - lesser vehicle traffic on favorite routes, etc. My property backs up to a large public park and instead of what I would normally be seeing this time of year - parents standing along the sidelines of soccer fields with their designer stainless coffee mugs filled with Starbucks, their noses planted in their smart phones - what I'm seeing this Spring is some of those same parents out in the park actually playing with their children. In that regard, it's a refreshing thing to see. On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:20:52 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote: > > > It’s the first time I’ve started a thread, but I’d be interested to hear > about what you’ve learned that’s new to you. > > I live on a 93 mile bike trail that’s now closed. The bike trail, being > rails-to-trails, had no corners (or real hills). So for five years I’ve > been cranking away in relatively straight lines. > > Now that I’m riding 4 laps through a small neighborhood, I’m learning how > to take corners at speed without pedal strikes. > My 2015 Sam had no problem. My 2019 Homer taught me that you had to > either open up the corner a little or “outside foot down, inside foot up” > coast through it. They have the same 170mm crank arms, so it is probably > both the bottom bracket drop and the smaller wheels - 650 vs 700 - that put > me lower. And 15mph might not be “speed” for others, but it is interesting > in tight quarters for me. > > So what have you learned? Riding Zwift is fun? Riding solo is no fun? > Cleaning clothes is easier without chain grease? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4d75499d-603d-4c4c-bc30-83d1814ebe08%40googlegroups.com.
