Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Christian B-H]

Paul- Sorry for the delay! It's a Soma Demi Porteur rack purchased on sale 
from Analog 
Cycles. https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/demi-porteur-rack

I appreciate it's 10kg / 22lb weight limit for grocery-getting. It works 
well on the platypus with a wald 317 zip tied on. 

On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 9:22:27 AM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Hey Christian,
> Awesome bike and a really nice ride! What rack is that on the front? Is is 
> the M18? It looks bigger. I'd like something similar for a basket on my 
> Gus, but haven't found the perfect thing just yet.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:58:06 PM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello to all my Platypus People!
>>
>>  As I mentioned in my original new-to-me PlatyPose post, when I first saw 
>> the all-black Platypus build from Crust, I was *inspired. *Then I 
>> happened upon Heather in NC’s post of her Pumpkin Platy with Continental 
>> Kings and *knew *step 1 for the mermaid platy would be all-black tires. 
>> As I bought it with grocery’s and future-baby-hauling in mind, I did want 
>> something that would roll reasonably on asphalt, but definitely something 
>> more robust than the original Shikoros, so 50mm Maxxis Ramblers it was. 
>>
>> Today I though of Leah P.’s tire-change story and flat fiasco followed by 
>> Adam Leibow of Calling in Sick Magazine and his article, “A Mechanics Guide 
>> to Romance” and was inspired. With my neighbors tools and advice, I 
>> de-fendered and un-Shikoro’d the platypus before adding the Ramblers. 
>>
>> That  done, I set out today in a sear-sucker plaid short sleave, andiamos 
>> beneath my regular shorts, and bedrock sandals- Bike Bedecked with a 
>> Simworks Bag and all!
>>
>> I picked up some spare chain links at University Bicycles here in 
>> Boulder, the last item I needed for my repair kit, and then set off North 
>> along the foothills and Wonderland Lake Trail. I took a gamble on some new 
>> miles on “Hogback Ridge” which was every bit as mountain bike-worthy as the 
>> name suggests. 
>>
>> Despite many a foot-down, steps walked, and pedal strikes on sizeable 
>> rocks, it was a blast picking my way up and down the Ridge, then under the 
>> 2 lane highway that connects Boulder with Lyons, and onto some single and 
>> double track in Boulder Valley Ranch north of town sandwiched between 36 
>> and the Boulder Reservoir. It was a trail I’d only ever done on my much 
>> shorter, 650b x 47mm setup Kona Rove gravel bike. That handled fine, but 
>> it’s not nearly as fun feeling or “planted” as the Platypus, with which I 
>> felt I could totally surf through the corners and really lean back on some 
>> steeper sections without feeling like I was going to endo.
>>
>> The 50mm tires did great despite some close-rim strikes, the long chain 
>> stays smoothed out frequent bumps on the trails, and the upright position 
>> made me feel much safer shakily pointing my platypus down a few rock-strewn 
>> hills. Plus, being able to jump off *forwards* when stuck climbing was a 
>> huge bonus. 
>>
>> Alas, I realized I had a flattening rear tire almost as soon as I 
>> re-found the asphalt and was winding my way through a residential 
>> neighborhood. Stopping to confirm the fact, my heart sank when I realized 
>> that the chain links were *not* the last tool I needed for my repair 
>> kit. I’d forgotten to put my hand pump and/or C02 cartridges back in the 
>> saddle bag. It’s great to *know *how to fix a flat and patch a tube, but 
>> it’s no use if you don’t have any way of getting air into it…
>>
>> Rather than attempting to inflate the presta valve like a balloon, I 
>> decided my best bet was to press onwards as the air level dwindled and see 
>> if anyone was in their driveway to ask about using a pump. Wouldn’t you 
>> know, at about 5:30 in the afternoon it just so happened that one of the 
>> first houses I passed featured a man who looked to be in his 60’s in his 
>> driveway who responded to my query with a cheerful affirmation. 
>>
>> I spent about 10minutes or so changing the flat. As I returned the pump, 
>> I noticed a beautiful metallic-tangerine Schwinn Mixte in the garage (think 
>> Bleriot or Romulus Riv blue, but in a tangerine/mandarin color). 
>>
>> “What a beautiful bike!” I complimented, “Reminds me a bit of mine!” as I 
>> gestured down the steep drive to my Platypus at the bottom.
>>
>> “Oh, thanks, yeah it’s my wife’s. She’s had it *since college! *We 
>> almost sold it at a tag sale, but when someone told us how valuable it was, 
>> we decided to keep it,” he replied. Turns out, instead of the $100 they 
>> were selling it for, they think it could be worth 200 or 300 dollars. 
>>
>> Feeling slightly uncomfortable about the price comparison of our two 
>> mixtes, but inspired by the Schwinn’s beauty I said, “Really? It’s a 
>> gorgeous bike. What size is it?”
>>
>> “It’s a woman’s bike,” he said. “I don’t really know.”  
>>
>> Realizing that delivering a Riv-sty

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Lance Terry]

Hey Christian,
The Platy is looking great. I had a Mark's rack on the front for a short 
bit and had my light mounted on the front eyelet. It worked great because 
it got the light out ahead of most of the tire. I can't tell though if that 
rack has a front eyelet. The nice thing about that light is you can loosen 
the mount and turn it to mount upside down or sideways.
Lance

On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 10:55:58 AM UTC-6 Andy Casler wrote:

> Christian: I thought the standard driveway tribute for a flatted Platypus 
> is a pump *and* a beverage of your choosing. Be sure to collect what 
> you're due!
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:26 AM Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
>> I like the mounting of the front lamp low as it perfectly illuminates the 
>> street ahead (I live in Pothole City) and doesn't blind anyone coming the 
>> other way. I have a big issue with riders shining their 1,000 lumen lights 
>> directly into oncoming traffic as it's so bright people approaching lose 
>> their depth perception which is just as dangerous as not being seen at all.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 10:01:07 AM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> *Philip: *Yes! Or a RivRiding Fashion thread at the very least, 
>>> although I doubt anyone will be topping the Platy-Kilt combo, it's still 
>>> worth a look!
>>> *Mike and Row: *Thanks! and I'm also curious to hear about dynamo 
>>> placement on the Platy...
>>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-6 WilletM wrote:
>>>

 On my Proto-Bombadil.  So I guess you can be Sam, but Frodo is already 
 taken.


 [image: thumbnail (1).jpg]


 On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:04:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> One bike to rule them all.
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
>> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's 
>> fine 
>> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>>
>> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
>> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go: 
>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>>
>>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
>>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 
>>> models 
>>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that 
>>> RH 
>>> tires are worth the $$.
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: 
>>> "... I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, 
>>> but 
>>> it's tough out there."
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Andrew Casler]

Christian: I thought the standard driveway tribute for a flatted Platypus
is a pump *and* a beverage of your choosing. Be sure to collect what you're
due!

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 9:26 AM Philip Barrett 
wrote:

> I like the mounting of the front lamp low as it perfectly illuminates the
> street ahead (I live in Pothole City) and doesn't blind anyone coming the
> other way. I have a big issue with riders shining their 1,000 lumen lights
> directly into oncoming traffic as it's so bright people approaching lose
> their depth perception which is just as dangerous as not being seen at all.
>
> On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 10:01:07 AM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *Philip: *Yes! Or a RivRiding Fashion thread at the very least, although
>> I doubt anyone will be topping the Platy-Kilt combo, it's still worth a
>> look!
>> *Mike and Row: *Thanks! and I'm also curious to hear about dynamo
>> placement on the Platy...
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-6 WilletM wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On my Proto-Bombadil.  So I guess you can be Sam, but Frodo is already
>>> taken.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: thumbnail (1).jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:04:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 One bike to rule them all.



 On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:

 I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48



 On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone
> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine
> file tread would be just fine for the road,
>
> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Here you go:
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>
>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the
>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models
>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH
>> tires are worth the $$.
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
>> "... I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, 
>> but
>> it's tough out there."
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

I like the mounting of the front lamp low as it perfectly illuminates the 
street ahead (I live in Pothole City) and doesn't blind anyone coming the 
other way. I have a big issue with riders shining their 1,000 lumen lights 
directly into oncoming traffic as it's so bright people approaching lose 
their depth perception which is just as dangerous as not being seen at all.

On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 10:01:07 AM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Philip: *Yes! Or a RivRiding Fashion thread at the very least, although 
> I doubt anyone will be topping the Platy-Kilt combo, it's still worth a 
> look!
> *Mike and Row: *Thanks! and I'm also curious to hear about dynamo 
> placement on the Platy...
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-6 WilletM wrote:
>
>>
>> On my Proto-Bombadil.  So I guess you can be Sam, but Frodo is already 
>> taken.
>>
>>
>> [image: thumbnail (1).jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:04:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One bike to rule them all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>

 Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
 looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
 file tread would be just fine for the road, 

 https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
 On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Here you go: 
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>
> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
> tires are worth the $$.
>
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: 
> "... I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, 
> but 
> it's tough out there."
>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Paul Clifton]

Hey Christian,
Awesome bike and a really nice ride! What rack is that on the front? Is is 
the M18? It looks bigger. I'd like something similar for a basket on my 
Gus, but haven't found the perfect thing just yet.

Paul in AR

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:58:06 PM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello to all my Platypus People!
>
>  As I mentioned in my original new-to-me PlatyPose post, when I first saw 
> the all-black Platypus build from Crust, I was *inspired. *Then I 
> happened upon Heather in NC’s post of her Pumpkin Platy with Continental 
> Kings and *knew *step 1 for the mermaid platy would be all-black tires. 
> As I bought it with grocery’s and future-baby-hauling in mind, I did want 
> something that would roll reasonably on asphalt, but definitely something 
> more robust than the original Shikoros, so 50mm Maxxis Ramblers it was. 
>
> Today I though of Leah P.’s tire-change story and flat fiasco followed by 
> Adam Leibow of Calling in Sick Magazine and his article, “A Mechanics Guide 
> to Romance” and was inspired. With my neighbors tools and advice, I 
> de-fendered and un-Shikoro’d the platypus before adding the Ramblers. 
>
> That  done, I set out today in a sear-sucker plaid short sleave, andiamos 
> beneath my regular shorts, and bedrock sandals- Bike Bedecked with a 
> Simworks Bag and all!
>
> I picked up some spare chain links at University Bicycles here in Boulder, 
> the last item I needed for my repair kit, and then set off North along the 
> foothills and Wonderland Lake Trail. I took a gamble on some new miles on 
> “Hogback Ridge” which was every bit as mountain bike-worthy as the name 
> suggests. 
>
> Despite many a foot-down, steps walked, and pedal strikes on sizeable 
> rocks, it was a blast picking my way up and down the Ridge, then under the 
> 2 lane highway that connects Boulder with Lyons, and onto some single and 
> double track in Boulder Valley Ranch north of town sandwiched between 36 
> and the Boulder Reservoir. It was a trail I’d only ever done on my much 
> shorter, 650b x 47mm setup Kona Rove gravel bike. That handled fine, but 
> it’s not nearly as fun feeling or “planted” as the Platypus, with which I 
> felt I could totally surf through the corners and really lean back on some 
> steeper sections without feeling like I was going to endo.
>
> The 50mm tires did great despite some close-rim strikes, the long chain 
> stays smoothed out frequent bumps on the trails, and the upright position 
> made me feel much safer shakily pointing my platypus down a few rock-strewn 
> hills. Plus, being able to jump off *forwards* when stuck climbing was a 
> huge bonus. 
>
> Alas, I realized I had a flattening rear tire almost as soon as I re-found 
> the asphalt and was winding my way through a residential neighborhood. 
> Stopping to confirm the fact, my heart sank when I realized that the chain 
> links were *not* the last tool I needed for my repair kit. I’d forgotten 
> to put my hand pump and/or C02 cartridges back in the saddle bag. It’s 
> great to *know *how to fix a flat and patch a tube, but it’s no use if 
> you don’t have any way of getting air into it…
>
> Rather than attempting to inflate the presta valve like a balloon, I 
> decided my best bet was to press onwards as the air level dwindled and see 
> if anyone was in their driveway to ask about using a pump. Wouldn’t you 
> know, at about 5:30 in the afternoon it just so happened that one of the 
> first houses I passed featured a man who looked to be in his 60’s in his 
> driveway who responded to my query with a cheerful affirmation. 
>
> I spent about 10minutes or so changing the flat. As I returned the pump, I 
> noticed a beautiful metallic-tangerine Schwinn Mixte in the garage (think 
> Bleriot or Romulus Riv blue, but in a tangerine/mandarin color). 
>
> “What a beautiful bike!” I complimented, “Reminds me a bit of mine!” as I 
> gestured down the steep drive to my Platypus at the bottom.
>
> “Oh, thanks, yeah it’s my wife’s. She’s had it *since college! *We almost 
> sold it at a tag sale, but when someone told us how valuable it was, we 
> decided to keep it,” he replied. Turns out, instead of the $100 they were 
> selling it for, they think it could be worth 200 or 300 dollars. 
>
> Feeling slightly uncomfortable about the price comparison of our two 
> mixtes, but inspired by the Schwinn’s beauty I said, “Really? It’s a 
> gorgeous bike. What size is it?”
>
> “It’s a woman’s bike,” he said. “I don’t really know.”  
>
> Realizing that delivering a Riv-style sermon about the practicality of a 
> lower top tube would almost surely push me beyond the extent of my welcome 
> with this man who’d just lent me his pump, I for some reason began 
> justifying  why I was on a mixte, and that maybe I could acquire that 
> Schwinn in its excellent condition so that *my *wife could match me. 
> Retreating back down the drive, I mounted my steel mermaid steed and forgot 
> the whole affair immediately

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Christian B-H]

*Philip: *Yes! Or a RivRiding Fashion thread at the very least, although I 
doubt anyone will be topping the Platy-Kilt combo, it's still worth a look!
*Mike and Row: *Thanks! and I'm also curious to hear about dynamo placement 
on the Platy...
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-6 WilletM wrote:

>
> On my Proto-Bombadil.  So I guess you can be Sam, but Frodo is already 
> taken.
>
>
> [image: thumbnail (1).jpg]
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:04:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> One bike to rule them all.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
>>> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
>>> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>>>
>>> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
>>> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Here you go: 
 https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/

 They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
 budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
 of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
 tires are worth the $$.

 On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: 
 "... I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but 
 it's tough out there."

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On my Proto-Bombadil.  So I guess you can be Sam, but Frodo is already 
taken.


[image: thumbnail (1).jpg]


On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 8:04:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> One bike to rule them all.
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
>> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
>> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>>
>> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
>> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go: 
>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>>
>>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
>>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
>>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
>>> tires are worth the $$.
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... 
>>> I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
>>> tough out there."
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Mike Packard]

Christian: Awesome story & rad Platypus, thank you for sharing.

Phil: I have always wanted to try mounting my dynamo front light like that. 
Do you like it and does the wheel not interfere with the light too much in 
practical (nighttime) use?

Thanks
mike



On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 2:13:37 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great stuff - we need to start a Platypus fashion thread?
>
> And yeah you need a pump, my set up is almost identical to yours down to 
> the Kleen Kanteen. The pump is the Topeak Master Blaster Road in the small 
> size which works great, fits beautifully & sort of compliments the look of 
> the Platy. Plus, an additional bonus is that it protects the top tube if 
> you yank out the aluminum bottle a little too spiritedly!
>
> [image: PXL_20220629_190658387.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 1:58:06 PM UTC-5 bei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello to all my Platypus People!
>>
>>  As I mentioned in my original new-to-me PlatyPose post, when I first saw 
>> the all-black Platypus build from Crust, I was *inspired. *Then I 
>> happened upon Heather in NC’s post of her Pumpkin Platy with Continental 
>> Kings and *knew *step 1 for the mermaid platy would be all-black tires. 
>> As I bought it with grocery’s and future-baby-hauling in mind, I did want 
>> something that would roll reasonably on asphalt, but definitely something 
>> more robust than the original Shikoros, so 50mm Maxxis Ramblers it was. 
>>
>> Today I though of Leah P.’s tire-change story and flat fiasco followed by 
>> Adam Leibow of Calling in Sick Magazine and his article, “A Mechanics Guide 
>> to Romance” and was inspired. With my neighbors tools and advice, I 
>> de-fendered and un-Shikoro’d the platypus before adding the Ramblers. 
>>
>> That  done, I set out today in a sear-sucker plaid short sleave, andiamos 
>> beneath my regular shorts, and bedrock sandals- Bike Bedecked with a 
>> Simworks Bag and all!
>>
>> I picked up some spare chain links at University Bicycles here in 
>> Boulder, the last item I needed for my repair kit, and then set off North 
>> along the foothills and Wonderland Lake Trail. I took a gamble on some new 
>> miles on “Hogback Ridge” which was every bit as mountain bike-worthy as the 
>> name suggests. 
>>
>> Despite many a foot-down, steps walked, and pedal strikes on sizeable 
>> rocks, it was a blast picking my way up and down the Ridge, then under the 
>> 2 lane highway that connects Boulder with Lyons, and onto some single and 
>> double track in Boulder Valley Ranch north of town sandwiched between 36 
>> and the Boulder Reservoir. It was a trail I’d only ever done on my much 
>> shorter, 650b x 47mm setup Kona Rove gravel bike. That handled fine, but 
>> it’s not nearly as fun feeling or “planted” as the Platypus, with which I 
>> felt I could totally surf through the corners and really lean back on some 
>> steeper sections without feeling like I was going to endo.
>>
>> The 50mm tires did great despite some close-rim strikes, the long chain 
>> stays smoothed out frequent bumps on the trails, and the upright position 
>> made me feel much safer shakily pointing my platypus down a few rock-strewn 
>> hills. Plus, being able to jump off *forwards* when stuck climbing was a 
>> huge bonus. 
>>
>> Alas, I realized I had a flattening rear tire almost as soon as I 
>> re-found the asphalt and was winding my way through a residential 
>> neighborhood. Stopping to confirm the fact, my heart sank when I realized 
>> that the chain links were *not* the last tool I needed for my repair 
>> kit. I’d forgotten to put my hand pump and/or C02 cartridges back in the 
>> saddle bag. It’s great to *know *how to fix a flat and patch a tube, but 
>> it’s no use if you don’t have any way of getting air into it…
>>
>> Rather than attempting to inflate the presta valve like a balloon, I 
>> decided my best bet was to press onwards as the air level dwindled and see 
>> if anyone was in their driveway to ask about using a pump. Wouldn’t you 
>> know, at about 5:30 in the afternoon it just so happened that one of the 
>> first houses I passed featured a man who looked to be in his 60’s in his 
>> driveway who responded to my query with a cheerful affirmation. 
>>
>> I spent about 10minutes or so changing the flat. As I returned the pump, 
>> I noticed a beautiful metallic-tangerine Schwinn Mixte in the garage (think 
>> Bleriot or Romulus Riv blue, but in a tangerine/mandarin color). 
>>
>> “What a beautiful bike!” I complimented, “Reminds me a bit of mine!” as I 
>> gestured down the steep drive to my Platypus at the bottom.
>>
>> “Oh, thanks, yeah it’s my wife’s. She’s had it *since college! *We 
>> almost sold it at a tag sale, but when someone told us how valuable it was, 
>> we decided to keep it,” he replied. Turns out, instead of the $100 they 
>> were selling it for, they think it could be worth 200 or 300 dollars. 
>>
>> Feeling slightly uncomfortable about the price comparison of our

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Your "precious" looks marvelous.
Doug

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 10:04:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> One bike to rule them all.
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2021, at 5:33 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
>> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
>> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>>
>> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
>> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Here you go: 
>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>>
>>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
>>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
>>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
>>> tires are worth the $$.
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... 
>>> I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
>>> tough out there."
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Johnny Alien]

I think the 650B Ultradynamicos only come in one width. 48

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 5:18:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
> Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone 
> looking for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine 
> file tread would be just fine for the road, 
>
> https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
> On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Here you go: 
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>>
>> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
>> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
>> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
>> tires are worth the $$.
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... 
>> I would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
>> tough out there."
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Garth]

Ultradynamico has many 650B and 700c 42mm tires in stock for anyone looking 
for an alternative to the usual suspects. The Cava with it's fine file 
tread would be just fine for the road, 

https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 5:15:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Here you go: 
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/
>
> They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the 
> budget Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models 
> of RH ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH 
> tires are worth the $$.
>
> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:54 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote: "... I 
> would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's 
> tough out there."
>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

Here you go:
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx44-snoqualmie-pass/

They do have one very big defect: they can cost $96 apiece, tho' the budget
Standard casing costs $74. Still, as someone who has used 2 models of RH
ELs (tho' not the Snoqualmie Pass), I can heartily confirm that RH tires
are worth the $$.

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would have been happy finding any folding tires in 42-44 width, but it's
tough out there."

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Well where’s my commission then?!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> GONE. It's been there all day, then you posted here. You sold it!
> 
>> On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Platy for sale!
>> 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/riv-garage-sale/products/60cm-platypus-fall-web-special-bike
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 5, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Kate! So fun. I love seeing you get after it on that mermaid dream of 
>>> yours.
>>> 
>>> It’s dark early now, so my rides are beginning to be in darkness, thank 
>>> goodness for dyno. A little scary out there (cars), but mostly ok. I *did* 
>>> see a tarantula tonight, narrowly missed squashing it, to be truthful. I’d 
>>> have had to pull over and wretch. Maybe scrape spider guts off my legs. I 
>>> mean, when is the last time you smashed a spider that big? Messy.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, here’s the Queen:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:26 AM, 'Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
 Hello Platy people. Not sure I am correctly posting photos on this 
 thread. What is the best way to do it? Also my
 Pics are gigantic. My apologies. I’m having wy too much fun on my bike 
 these days . Hope you all are as well. 
 Kate on her 50 Mermaid Platy and loving it like crazy, from NJ
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 1:16 PM, JAS  wrote:
>> 
> Congratulations Sofiya and welcome!  You've got a spectacular bike; what 
> a beauty.   Lucky you!  Be sure to write again and give us a ride report 
> and show us the places you go with your new Platy.  
> 
> Joyce
> 
>> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
>> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to 
>> try my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at 
>> my email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. 
>> This is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly 
>> excited I can hardly stand it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a 
>>> nice ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
 I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
 known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>> 
 
 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 
> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
> 
> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
> 
> What kind of Platypus to you have?
> Leah
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>> 
>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
> 
>> 
>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>> things to say:
>> 
>> I was wrong.
>> I need help.
>> Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>> 
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> 
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret 
>>> Platypus!
>>> 
>>> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run 
>>> colors were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a 
>>> silver and a bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one 
>>> is all about but I’m going to try and find out.
>>> L 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is 
 the deal?
 
>>> 
 
 I 
 
 
 
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 
> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened 
> the oven door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with 
> sweat. At one point I looked down & saw that curl

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

GONE. It's been there all day, then you posted here. You sold it!

On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 3:07:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

>
> Platy for sale!
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/riv-garage-sale/products/60cm-platypus-fall-web-special-bike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 5, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Kate! So fun. I love seeing you get after it on that mermaid dream of 
> yours.
>
> It’s dark early now, so my rides are beginning to be in darkness, thank 
> goodness for dyno. A little scary out there (cars), but mostly ok. I *did* 
> see a tarantula tonight, narrowly missed squashing it, to be truthful. I’d 
> have had to pull over and wretch. Maybe scrape spider guts off my legs. I 
> mean, when is the last time you smashed a spider that big? Messy.
>
> Anyway, here’s the Queen:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:26 AM, 'Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Platy people. Not sure I am correctly posting photos on this 
> thread. What is the best way to do it? Also my
> Pics are gigantic. My apologies. I’m having wy too much fun on my bike 
> these days . Hope you all are as well. 
> Kate on her 50 Mermaid Platy and loving it like crazy, from NJ
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 1:16 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> Congratulations Sofiya and welcome!  You've got a spectacular bike; what 
> a beauty.   Lucky you!  Be sure to write again and give us a ride report 
> and show us the places you go with your new Platy.  
>
> Joyce
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
>> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
>> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
>> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
>> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
>> can hardly stand it!
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a 
>>> nice ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.

 . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.

 What kind of Platypus to you have?
 Leah


 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

 Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."


 A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
 things to say:


1. I was wrong.
2. I need help.
3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 


 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>
> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
> going to try and find out.
> L 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
> deal?
>
> 
> I 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
>> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
>> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
>> point 
>> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it 
>> made 
>> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>>
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all 
 the time!

 -Emily



 On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 I’m inter

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['Kate Gilson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hello Platy people. Not sure I am correctly posting photos on this thread. What 
is the best way to do it? Also my
Pics are gigantic. My apologies. I’m having wy too much fun on my bike 
these days . Hope you all are as well. 
Kate on her 50 Mermaid Platy and loving it like crazy, from NJ

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 2, 2021, at 1:16 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations Sofiya and welcome!  You've got a spectacular bike; what a 
> beauty.   Lucky you!  Be sure to write again and give us a ride report and 
> show us the places you go with your new Platy.  
> 
> Joyce
> 
>> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
>> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try my 
>> luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my email 
>> when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This is my 
>> first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I can 
>> hardly stand it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
 I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be known 
 more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>> 
 
 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 
> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
> 
> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
> 
> What kind of Platypus to you have?
> Leah
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>> 
>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
> 
>> 
>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>> things to say:
>> 
>> I was wrong.
>> I need help.
>> Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>> 
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> 
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>>> 
>>> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
>>> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
>>> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but 
>>> I’m going to try and find out.
>>> L 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?
 
>>> 
 
 I 
 
 
 
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the 
> oven door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At 
> one point I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube 
> lug and it made me smile for the rest of the ride.
> 
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
> 
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all 
>>> the time!
>>> 
>>> -Emily
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> 
 I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
 you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>> 
 
 I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
 perpetuity. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>> 
> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious 
> how you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm 
> size has a 2 inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving 
> mine around my living room, but I think it makes up for that with 
> the ride.  I had considered a Chev in the past.
> 
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 Coal

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Congratulations. She's a beauty and I'm sure you'll be as happy as we (I) 
are (am) with our Platys. Looking forward to a writeup and pictures if you 
care to indulge us. 
Roberta Philadlelphia mermaid Platy  
On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:36:42 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for the warm welcome here, and very happy to be your #RivSister! 
> I will happily post photos when my platy arrives! I'm not sure how long the 
> wait will be -- I am in Massachusetts outside of Boston...I'm willing to 
> wait... I still can't believe that I was lucky enough to nab this beauty!
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I just got home from work and realized we got a new #RivSister! Oh, how 
>> wonderful that you scored a Platy, Sofie. I really couldn’t be more excited 
>> for you. Please, please, please delight us with your write up and photos 
>> when the bike gets to you. How long before you expect to have it? 
>>
>> Thanks so much for chiming in. What a pleasure!
>> #RivSisters,
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
>> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
>> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
>> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
>> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
>> can hardly stand it!
>>
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a 
>>> nice ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.

 . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.

 What kind of Platypus to you have?
 Leah


 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

 Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."


 A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
 things to say:


1. I was wrong.
2. I need help.
3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 


 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>
> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
> going to try and find out.
> L 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
> deal?
>
> 
> I 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
>> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
>> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
>> point 
>> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it 
>> made 
>> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>>
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all 
 the time!

 -Emily



 On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
 you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.


 I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
 perpetuity. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
 you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has 
>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Sofie C]

Thank you for the warm welcome here, and very happy to be your #RivSister! 
I will happily post photos when my platy arrives! I'm not sure how long the 
wait will be -- I am in Massachusetts outside of Boston...I'm willing to 
wait... I still can't believe that I was lucky enough to nab this beauty!

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I just got home from work and realized we got a new #RivSister! Oh, how 
> wonderful that you scored a Platy, Sofie. I really couldn’t be more excited 
> for you. Please, please, please delight us with your write up and photos 
> when the bike gets to you. How long before you expect to have it? 
>
> Thanks so much for chiming in. What a pleasure!
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus u

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

That's a nice bike! I love the gray and eggplant wrap on those swanky 
Loscos, and the black brakes and levers look good on LimeOlive frames. 
Welcome! 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery 
 in 
 Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
 Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard 
 Crust 
 Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam

 [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]


 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Tom, 
> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
> place as your pump, 64oz bottle d

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Congratulations Sofiya and welcome!  You've got a spectacular bike; what a 
beauty.   Lucky you!  Be sure to write again and give us a ride report and 
show us the places you go with your new Platy.  

Joyce

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery 
 in 
 Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
 Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard 
 Crust 
 Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam

 [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]


 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Tom, 
> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Yes, it's a beautiful area and shrouded in rain clouds now so I was lucky 
to hit such nice fall weather.   

Roberta, good eye!  Actually, it's a seat pack I loaded with my spare tube, 
tools, etc and hung it upside down, strapped to the frame with a Voile 
strap I found at the dog park.  It's a great spot for the gear.  
Interesting to hear about your Platy on the dirt MUP...what size tires are 
you running?

--Joyce

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 5:19:05 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:

> Beautiful. I passed through there years ago when I helped a buddy relocate 
> from South Dakota to Olympia. We took a day to ride around the whole 
> peninsula (in an old station wagon, not on bike... oh well). I'd love to 
> visit that place again. The whole peninsula is amazing.
>
> [image: WA.jpg]
> Bones
> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 1:33:05 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the write up and pictures. It looks lovely and I’m so happy 
>> you had such a grand time. I see your third water bottle surprise behind 
>> the seat tube with a Voile strap. 
>>
>> I took my Platy on a packed dirt MUP ride this weekend and also was 
>> delighted with the ride. Like you, I pushed my saddle, a B68, way back.  
>>
>> Roberta
>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 11:30:59 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Olympic Discovery Trail (ODT) on Platy!   I suppose this entry could 
>>> have been posted in the "ride pic sharing" category, but since it's all 
>>> about my Platypus ride, here you go.  I took the plunge and put my pretty, 
>>> clean, shiny Platypus onto the rear rack of my van where it could encounter 
>>> rain and road dust (horrors).  It was a tough choice between taking it or 
>>> the Clem because of the dirt factor, but I'm so glad I had the Platy 
>>> because she was perfectly suited for the ride.  It's "just" a bike after 
>>> all and should be ridden and transported out in the elements!  Yes, it got 
>>> a little dirty and yes, I'm handling it just fine, thank you, no medication 
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> The ODT is a mostly-paved rail-to-trail on the Olympic Peninsula that 
>>> will eventually stretch from Port Townsend, WA to the Pacific Ocean.  I've 
>>> ridden various portions of it, but the goal on this trip was to ride the 
>>> new part on the west end of Lake Crescent called the Spruce Railroad trail; 
>>> it only recently opened.  I also rode the waterfront portion from the 
>>> Morris Creek Trestle to the west end of Port Angeles which goes along the 
>>> Strait of Juan de Fuca.  What a surprise to ride by a company called 
>>> Platypus Marine! [image: IMG_0148.jpg]
>>>
>>> The rides were nothing epic, just 12-13 miles on beautiful fall days 
>>> with stunning scenery and mid-60s sunshine, but the Platypus felt just 
>>> right...comfortable and secure, fast enough, and easy to handle even on the 
>>> gravely parts.  Because of its weight, it's really easy to get onto the 
>>> rack.  With a strong headlight, the long, dark tunnel was easy to 
>>> navigate.  I'm very happy with the performance and cushioning of the 
>>> Shikoro tires.  The only thing missing from this bike is a rear rack since 
>>> I'll need a single pannier or a trunk bag for my gear when the weather gets 
>>> colder.  For now, the banana bag works.  I'm waiting for a new saddle as 
>>> well.  The new-style Selle Anatomica looked great, but the cast-aluminum 
>>> rails were too short to get the seat back far enough.  Oops.  I ordered 
>>> another SA in brown with the long steel rails and threw a spare black one 
>>> on for this trip.  Overall, I'm really happy to have this bike!
>>>
>>> I highly recommend the ODT for the beauty of the area and being able to 
>>> ride without encountering vehicle traffic.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Thanks for the write up and pictures. It looks lovely and I’m so happy you 
had such a grand time. I see your third water bottle surprise behind the 
seat tube with a Voile strap. 

I took my Platy on a packed dirt MUP ride this weekend and also was 
delighted with the ride. Like you, I pushed my saddle, a B68, way back.  

Roberta
On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 11:30:59 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Olympic Discovery Trail (ODT) on Platy!   I suppose this entry could have 
> been posted in the "ride pic sharing" category, but since it's all about my 
> Platypus ride, here you go.  I took the plunge and put my pretty, clean, 
> shiny Platypus onto the rear rack of my van where it could encounter rain 
> and road dust (horrors).  It was a tough choice between taking it or the 
> Clem because of the dirt factor, but I'm so glad I had the Platy because 
> she was perfectly suited for the ride.  It's "just" a bike after all and 
> should be ridden and transported out in the elements!  Yes, it got a little 
> dirty and yes, I'm handling it just fine, thank you, no medication 
> necessary.
>
> The ODT is a mostly-paved rail-to-trail on the Olympic Peninsula that will 
> eventually stretch from Port Townsend, WA to the Pacific Ocean.  I've 
> ridden various portions of it, but the goal on this trip was to ride the 
> new part on the west end of Lake Crescent called the Spruce Railroad trail; 
> it only recently opened.  I also rode the waterfront portion from the 
> Morris Creek Trestle to the west end of Port Angeles which goes along the 
> Strait of Juan de Fuca.  What a surprise to ride by a company called 
> Platypus Marine! [image: IMG_0148.jpg]
>
> The rides were nothing epic, just 12-13 miles on beautiful fall days with 
> stunning scenery and mid-60s sunshine, but the Platypus felt just 
> right...comfortable and secure, fast enough, and easy to handle even on the 
> gravely parts.  Because of its weight, it's really easy to get onto the 
> rack.  With a strong headlight, the long, dark tunnel was easy to 
> navigate.  I'm very happy with the performance and cushioning of the 
> Shikoro tires.  The only thing missing from this bike is a rear rack since 
> I'll need a single pannier or a trunk bag for my gear when the weather gets 
> colder.  For now, the banana bag works.  I'm waiting for a new saddle as 
> well.  The new-style Selle Anatomica looked great, but the cast-aluminum 
> rails were too short to get the seat back far enough.  Oops.  I ordered 
> another SA in brown with the long steel rails and threw a spare black one 
> on for this trip.  Overall, I'm really happy to have this bike!
>
> I highly recommend the ODT for the beauty of the area and being able to 
> ride without encountering vehicle traffic.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[luckyturnip]

Oh wow, I *really* want to ride this. Great write up. 

> On Sep 26, 2021, at 20:34, JAS  wrote:
> 
> A couple more photos of the ODT ride...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 8:30:59 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>> Olympic Discovery Trail (ODT) on Platy!   I suppose this entry could have 
>> been posted in the "ride pic sharing" category, but since it's all about my 
>> Platypus ride, here you go.  I took the plunge and put my pretty, clean, 
>> shiny Platypus onto the rear rack of my van where it could encounter rain 
>> and road dust (horrors).  It was a tough choice between taking it or the 
>> Clem because of the dirt factor, but I'm so glad I had the Platy because she 
>> was perfectly suited for the ride.  It's "just" a bike after all and should 
>> be ridden and transported out in the elements!  Yes, it got a little dirty 
>> and yes, I'm handling it just fine, thank you, no medication necessary.
>> 
>> The ODT is a mostly-paved rail-to-trail on the Olympic Peninsula that will 
>> eventually stretch from Port Townsend, WA to the Pacific Ocean.  I've ridden 
>> various portions of it, but the goal on this trip was to ride the new part 
>> on the west end of Lake Crescent called the Spruce Railroad trail; it only 
>> recently opened.  I also rode the waterfront portion from the Morris Creek 
>> Trestle to the west end of Port Angeles which goes along the Strait of Juan 
>> de Fuca.  What a surprise to ride by a company called Platypus Marine! 
>> 
>> The rides were nothing epic, just 12-13 miles on beautiful fall days with 
>> stunning scenery and mid-60s sunshine, but the Platypus felt just 
>> right...comfortable and secure, fast enough, and easy to handle even on the 
>> gravely parts.  Because of its weight, it's really easy to get onto the 
>> rack.  With a strong headlight, the long, dark tunnel was easy to navigate.  
>> I'm very happy with the performance and cushioning of the Shikoro tires.  
>> The only thing missing from this bike is a rear rack since I'll need a 
>> single pannier or a trunk bag for my gear when the weather gets colder.  For 
>> now, the banana bag works.  I'm waiting for a new saddle as well.  The 
>> new-style Selle Anatomica looked great, but the cast-aluminum rails were too 
>> short to get the seat back far enough.  Oops.  I ordered another SA in brown 
>> with the long steel rails and threw a spare black one on for this trip.  
>> Overall, I'm really happy to have this bike!
>> 
>> I highly recommend the ODT for the beauty of the area and being able to ride 
>> without encountering vehicle traffic.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice ring 
to them… I wouldn’t object! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be known 
> more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
> 
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> 
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>> 
>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>> 
>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
 
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>> 
>>> 
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest things 
>>> to say:
>>> 
>>> I was wrong.
>>> I need help.
>>> Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>> 
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> 
 On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
 
 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
> deal?
> 
 
> 
> I 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door 
>> to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I 
>> looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
>> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>> 
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
 time!
 
 -Emily
 
 
 
 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>> 
> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
 
> 
> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
> perpetuity. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>> 
>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size 
>> has a 2 inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine 
>> around my living room, but I think it makes up for that with the 
>> ride.  I had considered a Chev in the past.
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
>>> a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L 
>>> Cyclery in Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and 
>>> tanned out back. Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great 
>>> with my mustard Crust Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a 
>>> Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Tom, 
 I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
 place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in 
 framebag along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I 
 recently added some Honjo Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz 
 still fits
 
 
 
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> I'll be here all week.
> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>> 
>> ba-dum c
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
>>> wrote:
>>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>>> 
>>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[ascpgh]

I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be known 
more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>
> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>
> What kind of Platypus to you have?
> Leah
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>
> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>
>
> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest things 
> to say:
>
>
>1. I was wrong.
>2. I need help.
>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>>
>> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
>> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
>> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
>> going to try and find out.
>> L 
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
>> deal?
>>
>> 
>> I 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
>>> check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
>>> down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
>>> for the rest of the ride.
>>>
>>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂


 On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
> time!
>
> -Emily
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>
>
> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 
> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living 
> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a 
> Chev in the past.
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>
>> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, 
>>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>>> place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag 
>>> along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some 
>>> Honjo 
>>> Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'll be here all week.

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

 

 "Like a Riv-Nut?"

 ba-dum c

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
 wrote:

> Like a Riv-Nut?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
> wrote:
>
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. 
> They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
>
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there 
>> on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a 
>> great 
>> use of space 
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

That gravel road looks fun! I love the way a bike feels just slightly 
squirrelly in that stuff, like it's dancing under you and you can keep a 
light touch on the bars and let it find its own way. 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 5:01:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>
> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>
> What kind of Platypus to you have?
> Leah
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>
> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>
>
> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest things 
> to say:
>
>
>1. I was wrong.
>2. I need help.
>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>>
>> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
>> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
>> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
>> going to try and find out.
>> L 
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
>> deal?
>>
>> 
>> I 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
>>> check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
>>> down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
>>> for the rest of the ride.
>>>
>>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂


 On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
> time!
>
> -Emily
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>
>
> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 
> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living 
> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a 
> Chev in the past.
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>
>> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, 
>>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>>> place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag 
>>> along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some 
>>> Honjo 
>>> Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'll be here all week.

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

 

 "Like a Riv-Nut?"

 ba-dum c

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
 wrote:

> Like a Riv-Nut?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
> wrote:
>
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. 
> They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
>
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there 
>> on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a 
>> great 
>> use of

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

It’s a repaint. Got it on good authority. I wish that person was on here and 
would tell us more! 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
> 
> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest things to 
> say:
> 
> I was wrong.
> I need help.
> Yes, that does make you look fat. 
> 
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> 
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>> 
>> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors were 
>> the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a bronzey 
>> green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m going to 
>> try and find out.
>> L 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the deal?
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
 digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
 check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I 
 looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me 
 smile for the rest of the ride.
 
 That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
 
 On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>> time!
>> 
>> -Emily
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
>>> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
 
 Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
 you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has 
 a 2 inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
 living room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had 
 considered a Chev in the past.
 
 On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery 
> in Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out 
> back. Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my 
> mustard Crust Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with 
> Canti studs.  -Sam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> Tom, 
>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>> place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in 
>> framebag along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently 
>> added some Honjo Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>> I'll be here all week.
>>> 
 On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:
 
 
>>> 
 "Like a Riv-Nut?"
 
 ba-dum c
 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
> wrote:
>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do 
>>> that. They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet 
>>> only better.
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
 I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back 
 there on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I 
 think it's a great use of space 
 
 On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. 
>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[ascpgh]

Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."

A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest things 
to say:


   1. I was wrong.
   2. I need help.
   3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
   

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>
> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
> going to try and find out.
> L 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the deal?
>
> 
> I 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
>> check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
>> down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
>> for the rest of the ride.
>>
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
 time!

 -Emily



 On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

 I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
 got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.


 I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
 feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
 longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
 but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev 
 in 
 the past.

 On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>
> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Tom, 
>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>> place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag 
>> along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some 
>> Honjo 
>> Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be here all week.
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>>>
>>> ba-dum c
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Like a Riv-Nut?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
 wrote:

 
 Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. 
 They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
 Jon

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there 
> on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a 
> great 
> use of space 
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>
>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I 
>> used the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

I don't know why this root beer Platy exists but it should be a production 
color on the next round. That would look great with tan Sackvilles, it's 
cool!

Joe Bernard

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 7:35:20 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>
> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
> going to try and find out.
> L 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the deal?
>
> 
> I 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
>> check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
>> down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
>> for the rest of the ride.
>>
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
 time!

 -Emily



 On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

 I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
 got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.


 I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
 feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
 longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
 but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev 
 in 
 the past.

 On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>
> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Tom, 
>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
>> place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag 
>> along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some 
>> Honjo 
>> Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be here all week.
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>>>
>>> ba-dum c
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Like a Riv-Nut?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
 wrote:

 
 Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. 
 They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
 Jon

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there 
> on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a 
> great 
> use of space 
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>
>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I 
>> used the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors were the 
samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a bronzey green.  I 
don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m going to try and find 
out.
L 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> 
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the deal?
> 
> 
> I 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
>> digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
>> check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
>> down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
>> for the rest of the ride.
>> 
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the time!
 
 -Emily
 
 
 
 
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> 
> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
 
> 
> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>> 
>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
>> feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 
>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>> living room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had 
>> considered a Chev in the past.
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard 
>>> Crust Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  
>>> -Sam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tom, 
 I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
 place as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag 
 along with all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some 
 Honjo Flat 80's (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
 
 
 
> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> I'll be here all week.
> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>> 
>> ba-dum c
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  
>>> wrote:
>>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
> wrote:
> 
 
 Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. 
 They drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only 
 better.
 Jon
 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there 
> on frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think 
> it's a great use of space 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I 
>> used the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
>> 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
for the rest of the ride.

That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the time!
>>
>> -Emily
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
>> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>
>>
>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
>> feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
>> longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
>> but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev in 
>> the past.
>>
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>>
>>> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Tom, 
 I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same place 
 as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag along 
 with 
 all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some Honjo Flat 80's 
 (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
 [image: IMG_7105.jpg]


 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'll be here all week.
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>
> ba-dum c
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They 
>> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on 
>>> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great 
>>> use 
>>> of space 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>>
 Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used 
 the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Emily, this is so cool 😸🙂


On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the time!
>
> -Emily
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you got 
> your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>
>
> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
> feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
> longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
> but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev in 
> the past.
>
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>
>> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Tom, 
>>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same place 
>>> as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag along with 
>>> all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some Honjo Flat 80's 
>>> (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'll be here all week.

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 

 "Like a Riv-Nut?"

 ba-dum c

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:

> Like a Riv-Nut?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They 
> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on 
>> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great 
>> use 
>> of space 
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used 
>>> the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you got your 
Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.

I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you feel 
> about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch longer 
> wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, but I 
> think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev in the 
> past.
> 
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. Can't 
>> wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Tom, 
>>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same place as 
>>> your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag along with 
>>> all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some Honjo Flat 80's 
>>> (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll be here all week.
 
>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
> 
> ba-dum c
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They 
>>> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
>>> Jon
>>> 
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
 I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on 
 frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a 
 great use of space 
 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used 
> the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
> 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you feel 
about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev in 
the past.

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C&L Cyclery in 
> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>
> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tom, 
>> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same place 
>> as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag along with 
>> all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some Honjo Flat 80's 
>> (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
>> [image: IMG_7105.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be here all week.
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>>>
>>> ba-dum c
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>>
 Like a Riv-Nut?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:

 
 Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They 
 drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
 Jon

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on 
> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great 
> use 
> of space 
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>
>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used 
>> the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jay LePree]

Hi all:

I have Analogue cycles building my bike up.  The only outstanding items are 
the Velocity 650B Quill rims which are at the polishers.  I believe it will 
be about 1 month for the rims to be shipped and then sometime to have the 
bike built up, but I will post pictures.  I am surprised of the shortage of 
wheel rims for rim brakes.  I think many companies are stocking rims for 
bicycles equipped for disc brakes.  For those of you thinking of starting a 
project with wheels for rim brakes, considering ordering earlier.  I may 
actually stock up on rims later this year, just so that I have them.

Analogue has been a pleasure to work with.  They have an excellent website 
and have been great to communicate with.  Highly recommended.
Kind regards
Jay  LePree
Demarest, NJ

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:21:44 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I'm so excited for everyone!  I've ridden mine a few times (not set up 
> quite right) and I can tell the bike (frame with tires) is comfortable. 
> It's compliant with road imperfections.   Once I get the right stem height 
> with correct bars and appropriate bags and extras, I'll post pictures and 
> report back.
>
> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 1:01:59 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Yep, Leah, that's one gorgeous bike!   Thanks for keeping us all enthused 
>> with your ride reports.
>>
>> Great news!  I got my wheels today from Rich at RBW and took my Platypus 
>> frame with all the parts I've been collecting to Michael and Dan at Bayview 
>> Bikes.  My build is on their calendar for Monday, but Michael said they'd 
>> work on it earlier if things were slow.  I doubt things will be slow, but 
>> by this time next week I might have my new bike!  Yippee for a new Platy!  
>> I'll post ride photos as soon as I get it back from the shop.  
>>
>> Carry on, all!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 9:02:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How is everyone liking their new bikes? Anybody else get a Platy box 
>>> from Rivendell/dealer that we haven’t heard about yet? I do love everyone’s 
>>> New Bike Day stories.
>>>
>>> I worked a full day today, starting at 0630. I was pretty wiped, and the 
>>> winds were, once again, high in Las Vegas. I debated whether a ride would 
>>> be any fun in these conditions (mine and the weather’s). I decided on an 
>>> Apple Fitness weight lifting session, and it gave me a a burst of energy. 
>>> So, after I made dinner I set out on a sunset ride. When it was time to go 
>>> home, I didn’t. I rode longer and enjoyed the sunset and the feel of that 
>>> Platypus underneath me. I love this bike. Can’t imagine a better one. I 
>>> never regret taking it out, even when I’m dog-tired. Even when the winds 
>>> are howling. Generate joy - ride a Platypus!
>>>
>>> Never a mile wasted,
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
>>> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
>>> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
>>> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
>>> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
>>> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
>>> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - 
 belt and braces as we say back home!

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
> protector
>  
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>  
> .
>  
>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>   
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden 
>> only 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who 
>> knew?  
>> This is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
>>> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I 
>>> have a 
>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do lik

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[CoalTrain]

Hi everyone! I’m a long time reader but seldom post. I’m super excited to 
be joining the Platypus band wagon later this week after finding  probably 
the last 60cm frame in North America, from Canada! I’ve owned a few Rivs 
since 2002 but my favorite was the Cheviot. An amazing bike but never cared 
for the long reach brakes, and always wished for cantis or v-brakes. Glad 
to know Grant and company is apart of the make-a-bikewish foundation since 
they’ve made my mountain mixte dreams come true!

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 8:21:44 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I'm so excited for everyone!  I've ridden mine a few times (not set up 
> quite right) and I can tell the bike (frame with tires) is comfortable. 
> It's compliant with road imperfections.   Once I get the right stem height 
> with correct bars and appropriate bags and extras, I'll post pictures and 
> report back.
>
> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 1:01:59 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Yep, Leah, that's one gorgeous bike!   Thanks for keeping us all enthused 
>> with your ride reports.
>>
>> Great news!  I got my wheels today from Rich at RBW and took my Platypus 
>> frame with all the parts I've been collecting to Michael and Dan at Bayview 
>> Bikes.  My build is on their calendar for Monday, but Michael said they'd 
>> work on it earlier if things were slow.  I doubt things will be slow, but 
>> by this time next week I might have my new bike!  Yippee for a new Platy!  
>> I'll post ride photos as soon as I get it back from the shop.  
>>
>> Carry on, all!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 9:02:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How is everyone liking their new bikes? Anybody else get a Platy box 
>>> from Rivendell/dealer that we haven’t heard about yet? I do love everyone’s 
>>> New Bike Day stories.
>>>
>>> I worked a full day today, starting at 0630. I was pretty wiped, and the 
>>> winds were, once again, high in Las Vegas. I debated whether a ride would 
>>> be any fun in these conditions (mine and the weather’s). I decided on an 
>>> Apple Fitness weight lifting session, and it gave me a a burst of energy. 
>>> So, after I made dinner I set out on a sunset ride. When it was time to go 
>>> home, I didn’t. I rode longer and enjoyed the sunset and the feel of that 
>>> Platypus underneath me. I love this bike. Can’t imagine a better one. I 
>>> never regret taking it out, even when I’m dog-tired. Even when the winds 
>>> are howling. Generate joy - ride a Platypus!
>>>
>>> Never a mile wasted,
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
>>> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
>>> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
>>> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
>>> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
>>> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
>>> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - 
 belt and braces as we say back home!

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
> protector
>  
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>  
> .
>  
>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>   
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden 
>> only 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who 
>> knew?  
>> This is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
>>> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I 
>>> have a 
>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I 
>>> think 
>>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
>>> and 
>>> did that on a prior bike.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jay LePree]

I am having mine built up by Analogue Cycles.  The only outstanding parts 
are the Velocity Quill rims which are at the polishers.   I think the rims 
will ship in 4 weeks as the polishers are behind.   My guess is I will be 
able to post the build in about 1.5  months are so.  

I am a bit alarmed how difficult it is to get rims for rim brakes now.  I 
think if this were disc brake bike, there would be more choices to swap in 
different rims.  I cannot understand why rim brakes have fallen out of 
fashion.  While discs are better in mud and snow and somewhat better in 
rain, they do have some disadvantages, like checking pad life, installing 
new pads, and prevention of pad from rubbing the rotor.  

Jay
Demarest, NJ
07627
On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 9:21:44 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I'm so excited for everyone!  I've ridden mine a few times (not set up 
> quite right) and I can tell the bike (frame with tires) is comfortable. 
> It's compliant with road imperfections.   Once I get the right stem height 
> with correct bars and appropriate bags and extras, I'll post pictures and 
> report back.
>
> On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 1:01:59 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Yep, Leah, that's one gorgeous bike!   Thanks for keeping us all enthused 
>> with your ride reports.
>>
>> Great news!  I got my wheels today from Rich at RBW and took my Platypus 
>> frame with all the parts I've been collecting to Michael and Dan at Bayview 
>> Bikes.  My build is on their calendar for Monday, but Michael said they'd 
>> work on it earlier if things were slow.  I doubt things will be slow, but 
>> by this time next week I might have my new bike!  Yippee for a new Platy!  
>> I'll post ride photos as soon as I get it back from the shop.  
>>
>> Carry on, all!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 9:02:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How is everyone liking their new bikes? Anybody else get a Platy box 
>>> from Rivendell/dealer that we haven’t heard about yet? I do love everyone’s 
>>> New Bike Day stories.
>>>
>>> I worked a full day today, starting at 0630. I was pretty wiped, and the 
>>> winds were, once again, high in Las Vegas. I debated whether a ride would 
>>> be any fun in these conditions (mine and the weather’s). I decided on an 
>>> Apple Fitness weight lifting session, and it gave me a a burst of energy. 
>>> So, after I made dinner I set out on a sunset ride. When it was time to go 
>>> home, I didn’t. I rode longer and enjoyed the sunset and the feel of that 
>>> Platypus underneath me. I love this bike. Can’t imagine a better one. I 
>>> never regret taking it out, even when I’m dog-tired. Even when the winds 
>>> are howling. Generate joy - ride a Platypus!
>>>
>>> Never a mile wasted,
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
>>> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
>>> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
>>> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
>>> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
>>> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
>>> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - 
 belt and braces as we say back home!

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
> protector
>  
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>  
> .
>  
>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>   
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden 
>> only 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who 
>> knew?  
>> This is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
>>> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I 
>>> have a 
>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I 
>>> think 
>>> would b

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jared Wilson]

I'll be here all week.

> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
> 
> ba-dum c
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They drill 
>>> a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
>>> Jon
>>> 
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
 I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on frames 
 that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use of 
 space 
 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the 
> VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

"Like a Riv-Nut?"

ba-dum c

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> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They
> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on
>> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use
>> of space
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the
>>> VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jon Dukeman]

Yes. The aluminum frames back in the 90s were prone to bottle cage bosses
coming loose and rattling while riding. Very annoying.

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 9:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:

> Like a Riv-Nut?
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They
> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on
>> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use
>> of space
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the
>>> VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jared Wilson]

Like a Riv-Nut?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They drill a 
> hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
> Jon
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on frames 
>> that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use of 
>> space 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the VO 
>>> water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jon Dukeman]

Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They drill
a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
Jon

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on frames
> that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use of
> space
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>
>> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the
>> VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on frames
that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great use of
space

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:

> Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the VO
> water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Tom]

Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used the VO 
water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

I'm so excited for everyone!  I've ridden mine a few times (not set up 
quite right) and I can tell the bike (frame with tires) is comfortable. 
It's compliant with road imperfections.   Once I get the right stem height 
with correct bars and appropriate bags and extras, I'll post pictures and 
report back.

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021 at 1:01:59 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Yep, Leah, that's one gorgeous bike!   Thanks for keeping us all enthused 
> with your ride reports.
>
> Great news!  I got my wheels today from Rich at RBW and took my Platypus 
> frame with all the parts I've been collecting to Michael and Dan at Bayview 
> Bikes.  My build is on their calendar for Monday, but Michael said they'd 
> work on it earlier if things were slow.  I doubt things will be slow, but 
> by this time next week I might have my new bike!  Yippee for a new Platy!  
> I'll post ride photos as soon as I get it back from the shop.  
>
> Carry on, all!
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 9:02:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> How is everyone liking their new bikes? Anybody else get a Platy box from 
>> Rivendell/dealer that we haven’t heard about yet? I do love everyone’s New 
>> Bike Day stories.
>>
>> I worked a full day today, starting at 0630. I was pretty wiped, and the 
>> winds were, once again, high in Las Vegas. I debated whether a ride would 
>> be any fun in these conditions (mine and the weather’s). I decided on an 
>> Apple Fitness weight lifting session, and it gave me a a burst of energy. 
>> So, after I made dinner I set out on a sunset ride. When it was time to go 
>> home, I didn’t. I rode longer and enjoyed the sunset and the feel of that 
>> Platypus underneath me. I love this bike. Can’t imagine a better one. I 
>> never regret taking it out, even when I’m dog-tired. Even when the winds 
>> are howling. Generate joy - ride a Platypus!
>>
>> Never a mile wasted,
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
>> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
>> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
>> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
>> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
>> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
>> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
>>
>>
>> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
>>
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - 
>>> belt and braces as we say back home!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
 protector
  
 https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
  
 .
  
   The white you see is just the backing. 
   
 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
> Have fun.
>
> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden 
> only 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew? 
>  
> This is something I never thought about but now I am. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
>> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I 
>> have a 
>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I 
>> think 
>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
>> and 
>> did that on a prior bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all 
>>> around. Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
 work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
 details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
 Peacock Platy. 

 This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can 
 hardly wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. 
 Roberta and I

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Tom Wyland]

I've added my fenders (SKS P50), dynamo lights and front derailleur (Campy
from Joe!) to my Platy. I've gotten lots of insights from this group!   My
wife and I took a little ride through local trails on Sunday, dodging
cicadas. Some dirt farm paths and a few stream crossings (even a tunnel).
Not bad for the DC suburbs.  The Platy is pretty amazing. The fork (and
quill stem) are much more compliant than any other bike I've ridden.  I see
why Grant has kept away from disk brakes. You'd never get that feel with a
beefed-up thru-axle fork and disk brakes.

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Yep, Leah, that's one gorgeous bike!   Thanks for keeping us all enthused 
with your ride reports.

Great news!  I got my wheels today from Rich at RBW and took my Platypus 
frame with all the parts I've been collecting to Michael and Dan at Bayview 
Bikes.  My build is on their calendar for Monday, but Michael said they'd 
work on it earlier if things were slow.  I doubt things will be slow, but 
by this time next week I might have my new bike!  Yippee for a new Platy!  
I'll post ride photos as soon as I get it back from the shop.  

Carry on, all!

--Joyce

On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 9:02:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> How is everyone liking their new bikes? Anybody else get a Platy box from 
> Rivendell/dealer that we haven’t heard about yet? I do love everyone’s New 
> Bike Day stories.
>
> I worked a full day today, starting at 0630. I was pretty wiped, and the 
> winds were, once again, high in Las Vegas. I debated whether a ride would 
> be any fun in these conditions (mine and the weather’s). I decided on an 
> Apple Fitness weight lifting session, and it gave me a a burst of energy. 
> So, after I made dinner I set out on a sunset ride. When it was time to go 
> home, I didn’t. I rode longer and enjoyed the sunset and the feel of that 
> Platypus underneath me. I love this bike. Can’t imagine a better one. I 
> never regret taking it out, even when I’m dog-tired. Even when the winds 
> are howling. Generate joy - ride a Platypus!
>
> Never a mile wasted,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
>
>
> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
>
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - 
>> belt and braces as we say back home!
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
>>> protector
>>>  
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>>>  
>>> .
>>>  
>>>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>>>   
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
 Have fun.

 Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
 is something I never thought about but now I am. 
 Kate-Trenton, NJ
 my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
 been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have 
> a 
> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
> and 
> did that on a prior bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all 
>> around. Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>>> Peacock Platy. 
>>>
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can 
>>> hardly wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. 
>>> Roberta and I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all 
>>> our 
>>> words out without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me 
>>> hours 
>>> of footage this weekend, lol!
>>>
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Rober

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Unbelievable, Mike. I remember those days, they were otherworldly. I cannot 
imagine camping and I cannot believe you stuck it out! I’m on your turf this 
weekend, rafting the lower Kern. Really great and tomorrow we’ll hit Sequoia 
and Kings, spend the day and drive home into the night. I miss my bike! 

Leah “heading back to windy LV, NV” Peterson

Sent from my iPad

> On May 29, 2021, at 7:59 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
> 
> Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
> Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
> Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
> Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
> put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
> rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
> between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 
> 
> Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin
> 
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - belt 
>> and braces as we say back home!
>> 
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
>>> protector 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r.
>>>The white you see is just the backing. 
>>>   
 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
 fun.
 
 Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
 is something I never thought about but now I am. 
 Kate-Trenton, NJ
 my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
 selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
 
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
> and did that on a prior bike.
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
>>> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
>>> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
>>> Platy. 
>>> 
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
>>> and I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our 
>>> words out without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me 
>>> hours of footage this weekend, lol!
>>> 
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>> 
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
 
 The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover. 
  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with 
 my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She 
 "gets" me.
 
 Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
 white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
 two colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the 
 fenders, rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar 
 is Billie.  Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
 
 
 
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> - Platyphernalia -
> 
> Someone at RBW right now: 
> 
> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
> 
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Platyphernalia.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oooh I love that pin. 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Mike Godwin]

Leah, saw your note about the wind in LV. I was in NE Eureka Valley, of 
Death Valley NP on 5/20 - 23/. The wind was so bad Thursday night in 
Horsethief Canyon (5/20) we (12 people) almost packed up and headed for the 
Glacier Lodge in Big Pine. Half the crew slept in their vehicles, no tents 
put up because they would blow over (tried). I had the best spot, under a 
rock overhang where the wind was only 5-10 mph. Chance of snow and rain 
between 0400 and 1000 on 5/21. 

Mike "back in windy SLO CA" Godwin

On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 7:20:03 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - belt 
> and braces as we say back home!
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
>> protector
>>  
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>>  
>> .
>>  
>>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>>   
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
>>> 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
>>> is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
 it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
 clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
 would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
 did that on a prior bike.

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>> Peacock Platy. 
>>
>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
>> and 
>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of 
>> footage 
>> this weekend, lol!
>>
>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>
>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
>> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
>> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  
>> She 
>> "gets" me. 
>>
>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
>> two 
>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> - Platyphernalia -
>>>
>>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>>
>>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Platyphernalia.


 On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

 Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
 wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 

 And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
 acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
 been 
 idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
 when 
 you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

My Plat came with one in the packaging. I left it on under the wrap - belt 
and braces as we say back home!

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:12:15 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain 
> protector
>  
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
>  
> .
>  
>   The white you see is just the backing. 
>   
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
>> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
>> something I never thought about but now I am. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
>> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>>> did that on a prior bike.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
 Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
> Platy. 
>
> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
> and 
> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of 
> footage 
> this weekend, lol!
>
> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She 
> "gets" me. 
>
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> - Platyphernalia -
>>
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Platyphernalia.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>
>>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
>>> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
>>> been 
>>> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
>>> when 
>>> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
>>> there 
>>> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 

 But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
 now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
 checking 
 your mailboxes this week!

>>> 

>>>

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
 now with a backlog of

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Kate, until you get that cool wrap done, you can use a clear chain protector
 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/chainstay-protector?_pos=5&_sid=d25b413b7&_ss=r
 
.
 
  The white you see is just the backing. 
  
On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
> fun.
>
> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
> something I never thought about but now I am. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>> did that on a prior bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
 don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
 that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
 Platy. 

 This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
 wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
 and 
 I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
 without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
 this weekend, lol!

 It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
 endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
 travails. Like Pam Murray!

 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 

 Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  

 The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
 Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
 original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" 
 me. 

 Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
 white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
 colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
 rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
 Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  



 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> - Platyphernalia -
>
> Someone at RBW right now: 
>
> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Platyphernalia.
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>
>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
>> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
>> been 
>> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
>> when 
>> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
>> there 
>> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>>
>>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
>>> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
>>> checking 
>>> your mailboxes this week!
>>>
>> 
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
>>> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>>
>>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
>>> show 
>>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Kate-until your  that cool wrap done 1, get a clear
On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
> fun.
>
> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
> something I never thought about but now I am. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>> did that on a prior bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
 don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
 that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
 Platy. 

 This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
 wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
 and 
 I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
 without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
 this weekend, lol!

 It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
 endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
 travails. Like Pam Murray!

 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 

 Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  

 The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
 Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
 original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" 
 me. 

 Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
 white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
 colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
 rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
 Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  



 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> - Platyphernalia -
>
> Someone at RBW right now: 
>
> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Platyphernalia.
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>
>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
>> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
>> been 
>> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
>> when 
>> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
>> there 
>> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>>
>>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
>>> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
>>> checking 
>>> your mailboxes this week!
>>>
>> 
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
>>> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>>
>>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
>>> show 
>>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
 now with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 

 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  
>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Well now you’ll be completely ready when your Platypus arrives! You can’t be a 
#RivSister with a Platypus and NO PlatyPin- unthinkable.
L


Sent from my iPad

> On May 27, 2021, at 3:08 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> I may not have my Platy bike yet but I am the proud recipient of a PLATYPUS 
> Pin from Leah my new #rivsister.
> The STOKE is real.
> Kate-super stoked in Trenton, NJ
> 
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>> Bike looks great Roberta! Those Billies definitely look sharp. Maybe you can 
>> organize another ride this year: a Platypus Parade. And maybe I'll be able 
>> to make it this time.
>> 
>> Bones
>> 
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>> Roberta,
>>> What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
>>> with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
>>> have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.
>>> 
>>> #RivSisters,
>>> Joyce
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
 chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
 paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
 when urban riding is to expected.
 
 Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
 profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
 inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
 
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
> Have fun.
> 
> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
> is something I never thought about but now I am. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I 
>> think would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver 
>> tape and did that on a prior bike.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
 don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
 details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
 Peacock Platy. 
 
 This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
 wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. 
 Roberta and I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all 
 our words out without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send 
 me hours of footage this weekend, lol!
 
 It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
 endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
 travails. Like Pam Murray!
 
 Leah
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
> 
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid 
> BLUE (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise 
> me."  She "gets" me.
> 
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
> two colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the 
> fenders, rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar 
> is Billie.  Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> - Platyphernalia -
>> 
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>> 
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I may not have my Platy bike yet but I am the proud recipient of a PLATYPUS 
Pin from Leah my new #rivsister.
The STOKE is real.
Kate-super stoked in Trenton, NJ

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Bike looks great Roberta! Those Billies definitely look sharp. Maybe you 
> can organize another ride this year: a Platypus Parade. And maybe I'll be 
> able to make it this time.
>
> Bones
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>> What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
>> with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
>> have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.
>>
>> #RivSisters,
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
>>> chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
>>> paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
>>> when urban riding is to expected.
>>>
>>> Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
>>> profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
>>> inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
 Have fun.

 Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
 is something I never thought about but now I am. 
 Kate-Trenton, NJ
 my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
 been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have 
> a 
> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
> and 
> did that on a prior bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all 
>> around. Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>>> Peacock Platy. 
>>>
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can 
>>> hardly wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. 
>>> Roberta and I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all 
>>> our 
>>> words out without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me 
>>> hours 
>>> of footage this weekend, lol!
>>>
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>>
>>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
>>> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
>>> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  
>>> She 
>>> "gets" me. 
>>>
>>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
>>> two 
>>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the 
>>> fenders, 
>>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie. 
>>>  
>>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 - Platyphernalia -

 Someone at RBW right now: 

 "Do we sell platypus pins? 
 SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platyphernalia.
>
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
>
> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Roberta, your Mermaid Platy is so rad! Which is probably not the word you 
would pick for how your lovely bike looks, but there is no higher 
compliment from me. Rad rider, rad bike!!! 😎

Joe "stay rad" Bernard

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 7:14:08 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
> Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
> original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me. 
>
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> - Platyphernalia -
>>
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Platyphernalia.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>
>>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely 
>>> aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly 
>>> considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you 
>>> got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was 
>>> only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 

 But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
 now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking 
 your mailboxes this week!

>>> 

>>>

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
 with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -

 There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
 something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show 
 it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> Very nice Philip!
>>
>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
>> stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary 
>>> humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & 
>>> wrapping 
>>> skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
 "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much 
 more 
 "concrete" (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus 
 Boscoe."

 Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>>
>>>
 "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically 
 and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."

 I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought 
 to myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??

 Joe Bernard 

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
> "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much 
> more 
> "concrete" (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie 
> versus Boscoe.
>
> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great 
> sweepback; I always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I 
> do know 
> the feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand 
> (or 
> sit) and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I 
> have just 
> now, after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my 
> flipped and ruthlessly cu

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

Bike looks great Roberta! Those Billies definitely look sharp. Maybe you 
can organize another ride this year: a Platypus Parade. And maybe I'll be 
able to make it this time.

Bones

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Roberta,
> What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
> with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
> have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.
>
> #RivSisters,
> Joyce
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
>> chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
>> paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
>> when urban riding is to expected.
>>
>> Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
>> profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
>> inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
>>> 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
>>> is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
 it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
 clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
 would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
 did that on a prior bike.

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>> Peacock Platy. 
>>
>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
>> and 
>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of 
>> footage 
>> this weekend, lol!
>>
>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>
>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
>> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
>> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  
>> She 
>> "gets" me. 
>>
>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
>> two 
>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> - Platyphernalia -
>>>
>>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>>
>>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Platyphernalia.


 On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:

 Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
 wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 

 And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
 acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
 been 
 idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
 when 
 you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
 there 
 was only 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Roberta,
What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.

#RivSisters,
Joyce



On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
> chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
> paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
> when urban riding is to expected.
>
> Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
> profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
> inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>> Have fun.
>>
>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
>> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
>> something I never thought about but now I am. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
>> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>>> did that on a prior bike.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
 Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
> Platy. 
>
> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
> and 
> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of 
> footage 
> this weekend, lol!
>
> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She 
> "gets" me. 
>
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> - Platyphernalia -
>>
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Platyphernalia.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>
>>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
>>> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
>>> been 
>>> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
>>> when 
>>> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
>>> there 
>>> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 

 But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
 now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
 checking 
>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see chain 
marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely paintwork 
if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even when urban 
riding is to expected.

Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
> fun.
>
> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
> bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
> something I never thought about but now I am. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
> selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>> did that on a prior bike.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
 don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
 that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
 Platy. 

 This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
 wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
 and 
 I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
 without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
 this weekend, lol!

 It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
 endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
 travails. Like Pam Murray!

 Leah

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 

 Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  

 The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
 Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
 original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" 
 me. 

 Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
 white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
 colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
 rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
 Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  



 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> - Platyphernalia -
>
> Someone at RBW right now: 
>
> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Platyphernalia.
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>
>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
>> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
>> been 
>> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, 
>> when 
>> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe 
>> there 
>> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>>
>>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
>>> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
>>> checking 
>>> your mailboxes this week!
>>>
>> 
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
>>> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>>
>>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
fun.

Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
something I never thought about but now I am. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ
my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
selectedwent with chaco and long stem 

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and it 
> is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a clear 
> protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think would 
> be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and did 
> that on a prior bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
>>> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
>>> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
>>> Platy. 
>>>
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta and 
>>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
>>> this weekend, lol!
>>>
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more endearing 
>>> watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your travails. Like 
>>> Pam Murray!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>>
>>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
>>> Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
>>> original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me. 
>>>
>>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
>>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
>>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 - Platyphernalia -

 Someone at RBW right now: 

 "Do we sell platypus pins? 
 SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platyphernalia.
>
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>
> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
> been 
> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when 
> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there 
> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>
>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
>> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
>> checking 
>> your mailboxes this week!
>>
> 
>>
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
>> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>
>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
>> show 
>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>>> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
 Very nice Philip!

 So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
 stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, 
 hint...
 Doug

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 P

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and it 
is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a clear 
protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think would 
be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and did 
that on a prior bike.

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
>> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
>> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
>> Platy. 
>>
>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta and 
>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
>> this weekend, lol!
>>
>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more endearing 
>> watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your travails. Like 
>> Pam Murray!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>
>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
>> Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
>> original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me. 
>>
>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> - Platyphernalia -
>>>
>>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>>
>>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Platyphernalia.


 On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
 wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 

 And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
 acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
 been 
 idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when 
 you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there 
 was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 

 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>
> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking 
> your mailboxes this week!
>
 
>

>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>
> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
> show 
> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice Philip!
>>>
>>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
>>> stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, 
>>> hint...
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary 
 humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & 
 wrapping 
 skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?

 [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
> "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much 
> more 
> "concrete" (how's that 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. Make 
sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
> Platy. 
>
> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly wait 
> for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta and I 
> have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
> this weekend, lol!
>
> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more endearing 
> watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your travails. Like 
> Pam Murray!
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
> Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
> original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me. 
>
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> - Platyphernalia -
>>
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>>
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Platyphernalia.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
>>> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>
>>> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely 
>>> aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly 
>>> considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you 
>>> got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was 
>>> only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 

 But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
 now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking 
 your mailboxes this week!

>>> 

>>>

 Sent from my iPad

 On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
 with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -

 There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
 something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show 
 it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> Very nice Philip!
>>
>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
>> stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary 
>>> humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & 
>>> wrapping 
>>> skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
 "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much 
 more 
 "concrete" (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus 
 Boscoe."

 Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>>
>>>
 "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically 
 and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."

 I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought 
 to myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??

 Joe Bernard 

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, don’t 
they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details that the 
owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock Platy. 

This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly wait for 
you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta and I have Marco 
Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out without having to 
type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage this weekend, lol!

It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more endearing 
watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your travails. Like Pam 
Murray!

Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
> 
> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  Once 
> I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my original 
> Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me.
> 
> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> - Platyphernalia -
>> 
>> Someone at RBW right now: 
>> 
>> "Do we sell platypus pins? 
>> SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>> Platyphernalia.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
 
 Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I wasn't 
 previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
 
 And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely 
 aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly 
 considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you 
 got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was 
 only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
 
>>> 
 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>> 
> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
> 
> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right now…it’s 
> PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking your 
> mailboxes this week!
>>> 
> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>> with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>> 
>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
>> show it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>>> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>>> 
 On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
 Very nice Philip!
 
 So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
 stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, 
 hint...
 Doug
 
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary 
>> humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & 
>> wrapping skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
>>> "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much 
>>> more "concrete" (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie 
>>> versus Boscoe."
>>> 
>> 
>>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>> 
>>> 
>>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically 
>>> and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>> 
>> 
>>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought 
>>> to myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>> 
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> 
>> 
 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
 Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and 
 "almost" is no

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

- Platyphernalia -

Someone at RBW right now: 

"Do we sell platypus pins? 
SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platyphernalia.
>
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I wasn't 
> previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>
> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely 
> aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly 
> considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you 
> got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was 
> only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>
>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right now…it’s 
>> PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking your 
>> mailboxes this week!
>>
> 
>>
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>> with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>
>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show 
>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>>> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
 Very nice Philip!

 So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. 
 I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
 Doug

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary 
> humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & 
> wrapping 
> skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>
> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" 
>> is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more 
>> "concrete" 
>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>
>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>
>
>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically 
>> and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>
>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought 
>> to myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" 
>>> is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more 
>>> "concrete" 
>>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>>>
>>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; 
>>> I always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the 
>>> feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or 
>>> sit) 
>>> and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just 
>>> now, 
>>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped 
>>> and 
>>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
>>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the 
>>> bar, so 
>>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap 
>>> fingers 
>>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>>>
>>> Photos, please.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Friends,

 It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars 
 arrived yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which 
 I 
 documented in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on 
 Instagram). 
 But, it was too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating 
 today, 
 but the winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with 
 my 
 new Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in 
 the 
 interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys 
 in a 
 hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.

 The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is e

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Matthew Williams]

Platyphernalia.


On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I wasn't 
> previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
> 
> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely 
> aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly 
> considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you got 
> one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was only 
> two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
> 
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
> 
> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right now…it’s 
> PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking your 
> mailboxes this week!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> 
>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with 
>> a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>> 
>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show 
>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>> 
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with a 
>> backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>> Very nice Philip!
>> 
>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. I 
>> hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>> Doug
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not 
>> a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
>> that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>> 
>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>> 
>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>> 
>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>> 
>> Joe Bernard 
>> 
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not a 
>> putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
>> that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>> 
>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
>> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and torque 
>> hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, after 
>> months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and 
>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so 
>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers 
>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>> 
>> Photos, please.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> Hi Friends,
>> 
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the winds 
>> died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new Billie Bars. 
>> I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the interest of people 
>> trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a hurry, I’ll give 
>> you my unvarnished opinion.
>> 
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a reach 
>> that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep way 
>> back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first appreciable 
>> difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and has less 
>> reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the Billie is 
>> regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the clamp are 
>> lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with an 
>> impressive rack, the

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I wasn't
previously aware of, but clearly thriving.

And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been acutely
aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had been idly
considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when you
got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there was
only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype!

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence.
>
> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right now…it’s
> PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking your
> mailboxes this week!
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now
> with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>
> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys
> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show
> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with
>> a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha..
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice Philip!
>>>
>>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock.
>>> I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary
 humidity. Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping
 skills, I wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?

 [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost"
> is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete"
> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>
> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>

> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically
> and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>
> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to
> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost"
>> is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more 
>> "concrete"
>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>>
>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback;
>> I always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the
>> feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit)
>> and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just 
>> now,
>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped 
>> and
>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600
>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, 
>> so
>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap 
>> fingers
>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>>
>> Photos, please.
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived
>>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
>>> documented
>>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it 
>>> was
>>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the
>>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new
>>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the
>>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys 
>>> in a
>>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>>
>>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of
>>> a reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the 
>>> term
>>> for bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown.
>>> The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and
>>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first
>>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
>>> and
>>> has less reach-back. Understated

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 

But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right now…it’s 
PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be checking your mailboxes 
this week!


Sent from my iPad

> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with 
> a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
> 
> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys something. 
> "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show it on 
> Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
> 
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with a 
>> backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>> Very nice Philip!
>>> 
>>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. I 
>>> hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
 Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
 wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
 
 
 
 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
 
> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
 
> 
> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
 
> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
> 
> Joe Bernard 
 
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>> 
>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the 
>> feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or 
>> sit) and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have 
>> just now, after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to 
>> my flipped and ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved 
>> the Shimano 600 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) 
>> ends of the bar, so I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips 
>> but still wrap fingers around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined 
>> riding position.
>> 
>> Photos, please.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> 
>>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
>>> documented in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on 
>>> Instagram). But, it was too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t 
>>> cooperating today, but the winds died down enough to let me out for a 
>>> quick 10 miles with my new Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and 
>>> miles with them, but in the interest of people trying to choose bars 
>>> and stem for their new Platys in a hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished 
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
>>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
>>> for bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a 
>>> crown. The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise 
>>> dramatically and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. 
>>> That was the first appreciable difference I noted between the bars - 
>>> the Billie is flatter and has less reach-back. Understated compared to 
>>> the dramatic Bosco. But the Billie is regal in its own way, too - those 
>>> curves on either side of the clamp are lovely. To use imagery from 
>>> nature:  the Boscos are a buck with an impressive rack, the Billies are 
>>> a bird taking flight. 
>>> 
>>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
>>> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for 
>>> full-grown, broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good 
>>> news - I think you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think 
>>> it is more ergon

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

- Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with 
a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -

There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to show 
it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with 
> a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> Very nice Philip!
>>
>> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. I 
>> hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
>>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
>>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
 not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
 (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."

 Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:

>>>
 "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
 sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."

 I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
 myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??

 Joe Bernard 

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>
> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the 
> feeling 
> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped 
> and 
> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, 
> so 
> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap 
> fingers 
> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>
> Photos, please.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
>> documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it 
>> was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys 
>> in a 
>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
>> for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
>> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
>> and 
>> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
>> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
>> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck 
>> with 
>> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>>
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, 
>> I know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for 
>> full-grown, 
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
>> ergonomic 
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>>
>> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a 
>> stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated 
>> climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now with a
backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha..

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Very nice Philip!
>
> So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. I
> hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity.
>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I
>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is
>>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete"
>>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>>
>>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>>
>>
>>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and
>>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>>
>>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to
>>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is
 not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete"
 (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.

 Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I
 always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling
 of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and
 torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now,
 after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and
 ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600
 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so
 I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers
 around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.

 Photos, please.

 On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson 
 wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
> documented
> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was
> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the
> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new
> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the
> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in 
> a
> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
> for
> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The
> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep
> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
> and
> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the
> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the
> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with
> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight.
>
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown,
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
> ergonomic
> the way your wrists meet those bar ends.
>
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a
> stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated
> climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward.
> I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. 
> Ever
> ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a 
> bar
> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to 
> climb
> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm
> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make
> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m
> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or r

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Very nice Philip!

So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of stock. I 
hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, hint...
Doug

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>
> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>
>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>
>
>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>
>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>>>
>>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
>>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
>>> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
>>> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
>>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and 
>>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
>>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so 
>>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers 
>>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>>>
>>> Photos, please.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Friends,

 It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
 yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
 documented 
 in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
 too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
 winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
 Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
 interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in 
 a 
 hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.

 The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
 reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
 for 
 bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
 drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
 way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
 appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
 and 
 has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
 Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
 clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
 an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 

 So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
 know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
 broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
 you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
 ergonomic 
 the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 

 Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a 
 stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated 
 climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. 
 I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. 
 Ever 
 ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a 
 bar 
 puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to 
 climb 
 a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
 stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
 me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
 starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the 
 flats 
 below the mountain and NO wrist pain.

 I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish 
 posture of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was t

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Eric Marth]

As a few people seem interested in trying a Billie for their Platypus I 
thought I'd mention that a forum member named Brendan has a Billie for sale 
as mentioned in this thread on Billie bars

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/RvpFtXS55Wk

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 2:32:03 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Vince knows his handlebars and stems and the best configuation.
> I'm getting a new stem this week. I'll report back how it goes.
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2021, 10:20 AM 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to  catch up on the 
>> handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to 
>> the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person.  This 
>> is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk 
>> with Vince at Riv.  So this week I'll have an answer. 
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
>>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
>>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
 not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
 (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."

 Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:

>>>
 "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
 sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."

 I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
 myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??

 Joe Bernard 

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>
> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the 
> feeling 
> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped 
> and 
> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, 
> so 
> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap 
> fingers 
> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>
> Photos, please.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
>> documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it 
>> was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys 
>> in a 
>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
>> for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
>> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
>> and 
>> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
>> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
>> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck 
>> with 
>> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>>
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, 
>> I know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for 
>> full-grown, 
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
>> ergonomic 
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jon Dukeman]

Vince knows his handlebars and stems and the best configuation.
I'm getting a new stem this week. I'll report back how it goes.

On Sun, May 23, 2021, 10:20 AM 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to  catch up on the
> handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to
> the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person.  This
> is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk
> with Vince at Riv.  So this week I'll have an answer.
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity.
>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I
>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is
>>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete"
>>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>>
>>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>>
>>
>>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and
>>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>>
>>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to
>>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is
 not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete"
 (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.

 Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I
 always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling
 of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and
 torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now,
 after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and
 ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600
 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so
 I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers
 around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.

 Photos, please.

 On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson 
 wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
> documented
> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was
> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the
> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new
> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the
> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in 
> a
> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
> for
> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The
> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep
> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
> and
> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the
> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the
> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with
> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight.
>
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown,
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
> ergonomic
> the way your wrists meet those bar ends.
>
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a
> stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated
> climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward.
> I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. 
> Ever
> ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a 
> bar
> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to 
> climb
> a hill or t

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I’m sorry about your family emergency, Kate. Truly.

The Billie Bars have since sold out, so we will have to wait until the next 
run, I suppose. I emailed Spencer to see if he will give us an ETA on the next 
run of Billie Bars. There’s also the Back In Stock button on the site. 



Sent from my iPad

> On May 23, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to  catch up on the 
> handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to the 
> conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person.  This is the 
> last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk with Vince 
> at Riv.  So this week I'll have an answer. 
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> 
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
>> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
>> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not 
>>> a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
>>> that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>> 
>> 
>>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>> 
>>> 
>>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
>>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>> 
>> 
>>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
>>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>> 
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> 
>> 
 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
 Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not 
 a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
 that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
 
 Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
 always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
 of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
 torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
 after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped 
 and ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, 
 so I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap 
 fingers around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
 
 Photos, please.
 
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
> Hi Friends,
> 
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
> documented in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). 
> But, it was too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating 
> today, but the winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles 
> with my new Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but 
> in the interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new 
> Platys in a hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
> 
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
> for bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. 
> The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
> and has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But 
> the Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of 
> the clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck 
> with an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
> 
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
> ergonomic the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
> 
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem 
> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated 
> climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was 
> awkward. I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my 
> hips. Ever ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! 
>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to  catch up on the 
handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to 
the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person.  This 
is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk 
with Vince at Riv.  So this week I'll have an answer. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>
> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>
>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>
>
>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>
>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>>>
>>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
>>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
>>> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
>>> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
>>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and 
>>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
>>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so 
>>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers 
>>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>>>
>>> Photos, please.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Friends,

 It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
 yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
 documented 
 in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
 too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
 winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
 Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
 interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in 
 a 
 hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.

 The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
 reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
 for 
 bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
 drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
 way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
 appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
 and 
 has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
 Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
 clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
 an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 

 So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
 know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
 broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
 you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
 ergonomic 
 the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 

 Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a 
 stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated 
 climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. 
 I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. 
 Ever 
 ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a 
 bar 
 puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to 
 climb 
 a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
 stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
 me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
 starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the 
 f

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

"Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not 
a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."

Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:

"The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."

I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??

Joe Bernard 

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not 
> a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's 
> *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>
> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and 
> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so 
> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers 
> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>
> Photos, please.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a 
>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
>> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and 
>> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
>> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
>> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
>> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>>
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
>> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic 
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>>
>> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem 
>> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing 
>> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely 
>> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden 
>> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar 
>> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb 
>> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
>> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
>> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
>> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats 
>> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>>
>> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture 
>> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on 
>> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but 
>> those will come with miles. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

Another tangential remark: Riding with hands at your hips is the standard
position with the Raleigh DL-1 and clones and omafietses. I still don't
understand it.

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:13 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not
> a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's
> *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>
> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I
> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling
> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and
> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now,
> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and
> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600
> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so
> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers
> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>
> Photos, please.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the
>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new
>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the
>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a
>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a
>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep
>> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first
>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and
>> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the
>> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the
>> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with
>> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight.
>>
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I
>> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown,
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends.
>>
>> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem
>> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing
>> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely
>> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden
>> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar
>> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb
>> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm
>> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make
>> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m
>> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats
>> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>>
>> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture
>> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on
>> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but
>> those will come with miles.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not
a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's
*that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.

Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I
always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling
of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and
torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now,
after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and
ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600
levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so
I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers
around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.

Photos, please.

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented
> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was
> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the
> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new
> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the
> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a
> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for
> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The
> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep
> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and
> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the
> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the
> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with
> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight.
>
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown,
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic
> the way your wrists meet those bar ends.
>
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem
> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing
> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely
> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden
> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar
> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb
> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm
> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make
> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m
> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats
> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>
> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture
> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on
> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but
> those will come with miles.
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Leah,
Your Billie Bar review is helpful and all points make good sense to me. I 
think I will appreciate the width and multiple hand positions as I do tend 
to move my grip around on long rides. What gearing are you using on your 
Platypus? 
Doug

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:42:03 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a 
> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and 
> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic 
> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem 
> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing 
> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely 
> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden 
> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar 
> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb 
> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats 
> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>
> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture 
> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on 
> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but 
> those will come with miles. 
>
> Hope that helps!
> Leah
>
> On May 19, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
>
> Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
> lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
> If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
> stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
> head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
> you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
> I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
> be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
> your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
> close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
> wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable 
> height and B) she is medium to small and I did not think she would be 
> comfortable with the extra width. All that said, the Billies are great 
> bars. Lots of real estate, nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I 
> do dig the extra width.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Bones
>
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's 
>> based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my 
>> comment about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more 
>> towards someone who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to 
>> that really long reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll 
>> get more than a full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem, 
>> and I imagine that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's reach to be short 
>> even when you're just cruising along, then yeah a longer stem is probably 
>> due.  
>>
>> I am ISO 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

I think you sold a Billie to every Platypus owner this week. Riv was 
probably like WHERE DID ALL THESE ORDERS COME FROM? 😂

Tosco is a compromise between the height I need from Boscos and that 
excellent flare on your B bar. I have some room with my new Face Plater to 
lift the bars a bit, which should get Tosco high enough. Your bar is I 
think too low for me.*

*If that makes sense. I've read and edited that paragraph 5 times and it's 
still a convoluted mess! 🤪

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 9:39:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> There were lots of B bars in stock a few days ago, AFTER I got my bar, so 
> I can’t be blamed for taking the last one!
>
> How did you arrive at Tosco? They flare LESS than the Billie…
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Well doggone it I think I need a new bar, too! You're right about how 
> awesome the Boscos are - I need and love most of that rise - but the 
> not-much-flare is an issue for me..I'm super jealous of all that Billie 
> flare! BUT I think my arthritic wrists will need more rise AND you bought 
> the last Billie. Solution: Tosco! Off to the Rivbike site I go...
>
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:42:03 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
>> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
>> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
>> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a 
>> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>>
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
>> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
>> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
>> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and 
>> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
>> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
>> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
>> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>>
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
>> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic 
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>>
>> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem 
>> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing 
>> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely 
>> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden 
>> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar 
>> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb 
>> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
>> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
>> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
>> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats 
>> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>>
>> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture 
>> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on 
>> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but 
>> those will come with miles. 
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 19, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
>>
>> Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
>> lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
>> If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
>> stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
>> head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
>> you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
>> I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
>> be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
>> your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
>> close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
>> wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get the

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

There were lots of B bars in stock a few days ago, AFTER I got my bar, so I 
can’t be blamed for taking the last one!

How did you arrive at Tosco? They flare LESS than the Billie…

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Well doggone it I think I need a new bar, too! You're right about how 
> awesome the Boscos are - I need and love most of that rise - but the 
> not-much-flare is an issue for me..I'm super jealous of all that Billie 
> flare! BUT I think my arthritic wrists will need more rise AND you bought the 
> last Billie. Solution: Tosco! Off to the Rivbike site I go...
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:42:03 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Hi Friends,
>> 
>> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
>> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
>> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
>> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the winds 
>> died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new Billie Bars. 
>> I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the interest of people 
>> trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a hurry, I’ll give 
>> you my unvarnished opinion.
>> 
>> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a reach 
>> that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
>> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
>> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep way 
>> back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first appreciable 
>> difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and has less 
>> reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the Billie is 
>> regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the clamp are 
>> lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with an 
>> impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>> 
>> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I know 
>> we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
>> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
>> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic 
>> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>> 
>> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem for 
>> them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing with 
>> my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely stood 
>> on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden your 
>> bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar puller. I 
>> pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb a hill or 
>> to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm stem. I would 
>> get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make me gasp. But not 
>> tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m starting from a dead 
>> stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats below the mountain 
>> and NO wrist pain.
>> 
>> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture of 
>> the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on my 
>> first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but those 
>> will come with miles. 
>> 
>> Hope that helps!
>> Leah
>> 
 On May 19, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
 
>>> Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
>>> lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
>>> If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
>>> stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
>>> head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
>>> you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
>>> I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
>>> be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
>>> your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
>>> close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
>>> wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable 
>>> height and B) she is medium to small and I did not think she would be 
>>> comfortable with the extra width. All that said, the Billies are great 
>>> bars. Lots of real estate, nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I 
>>> do dig the extra width.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Bones
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
 Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's 
 based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bike

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Well doggone it I think I need a new bar, too! You're right about how 
awesome the Boscos are - I need and love most of that rise - but the 
not-much-flare is an issue for me..I'm super jealous of all that Billie 
flare! BUT I think my arthritic wrists will need more rise AND you bought 
the last Billie. Solution: Tosco! Off to the Rivbike site I go...

Joe Bernard

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 8:42:03 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
> yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented 
> in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
> too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
> winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
> Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
> interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a 
> hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.
>
> The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
> reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for 
> bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
> drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
> way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
> appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and 
> has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
> Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
> clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
> an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 
>
> So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
> know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
> broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
> you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic 
> the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 
>
> Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem 
> for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing 
> with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely 
> stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden 
> your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar 
> puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb 
> a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
> stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
> me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
> starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the flats 
> below the mountain and NO wrist pain.
>
> I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture 
> of the Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on 
> my first Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but 
> those will come with miles. 
>
> Hope that helps!
> Leah
>
> On May 19, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
>
> Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
> lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
> If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
> stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
> head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
> you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
> I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
> be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
> your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
> close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
> wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable 
> height and B) she is medium to small and I did not think she would be 
> comfortable with the extra width. All that said, the Billies are great 
> bars. Lots of real estate, nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I 
> do dig the extra width.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Bones
>
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's 
>> based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my 
>> comment about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more 
>> towards someone who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to 
>> that really long reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll 
>> get more than a full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem, 
>> and I imagine that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's re

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Friends,

It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived yesterday 
afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented in a 
minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was too windy 
to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the winds died down 
enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new Billie Bars. I wish I had 
more time and miles with them, but in the interest of people trying to choose 
bars and stem for their new Platys in a hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished 
opinion.

The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a reach 
that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for bikes). 
The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The drama queen of 
Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep way back, like a 
woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first appreciable difference I noted 
between the bars - the Billie is flatter and has less reach-back. Understated 
compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the Billie is regal in its own way, too - 
those curves on either side of the clamp are lovely. To use imagery from 
nature:  the Boscos are a buck with an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird 
taking flight. 

So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I know we 
were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think you’ll 
like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic the way 
your wrists meet those bar ends. 

Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem for 
them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing with my 
Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely stood on my 
pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden your bike uphill 
with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar puller. I pull hard on 
handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb a hill or to go fast and 
it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm stem. I would get a sharp pain in 
my right wrist that would actually make me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank 
those bars all I want - when I’m starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill 
or racing around on the flats below the mountain and NO wrist pain.

I did raise my stem another 1/2 inch to make up for the flattish posture of the 
Billies. It was kind of nostalgic because Albatross was the bar on my first 
Riv, my Betty Foy. I’m sure I’ll make further adjustments, but those will come 
with miles. 

Hope that helps!
Leah

> On May 19, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
> 
> Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a lot 
> more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. If 
> you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the stem 
> maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the head 
> tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to you 
> they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, I'm 
> not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may be 
> comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on your 
> current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too close, or 
> just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my wife's bike 
> because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable height and B) she 
> is medium to small and I did not think she would be comfortable with the 
> extra width. All that said, the Billies are great bars. Lots of real estate, 
> nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I do dig the extra width.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Bones
> 
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's based 
> on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my comment 
> about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more towards someone 
> who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to that really long 
> reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll get more than a 
> full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem, and I imagine 
> that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's reach to be short even when 
> you're just cruising along, then yeah a longer stem is probably due.  
> 
> I am ISO that long Faceplater but I swear this doesn't affect my feedback :) 
> 
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 5:34 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  > wrote:
> Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too close to 
> me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but there's a used 
> 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for rise) I might be able 
> to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 13

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable 
height and B) she is medium to small and I did not think she would be 
comfortable with the extra width. All that said, the Billies are great 
bars. Lots of real estate, nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I 
do dig the extra width.

Hope this helps,
Bones

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's 
> based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my 
> comment about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more 
> towards someone who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to 
> that really long reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll 
> get more than a full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem, 
> and I imagine that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's reach to be short 
> even when you're just cruising along, then yeah a longer stem is probably 
> due.  
>
> I am ISO that long Faceplater but I swear this doesn't affect my feedback 
> :) 
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 5:34 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too 
>> close to me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but 
>> there's a used 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for 
>> rise) I might be able to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 135 
>> Faceplater be too much reach? I don't want to lean so far forward that I'm 
>> bearing weight on my hands. I also don't want to be bolt upright. 
>>
>> Bones, you might have insight here as well...
>>
>> I'm sure the other Platy owners would love to know for their own builds...
>> Leah  
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie 
>>> bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand 
>>> positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's 
>>> common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how 
>>> anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while 
>>> the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very 
>>> comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front 
>>> "hooks", which is a bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your 
>>> stem length does little more than determine where along the bar you put 
>>> your brake levers - I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand 
>>> position;  Rivendell puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 
>>> 1.5 grip's worth about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put 
>>> your hands forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>>>
>>> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond 
>>> their incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low 
>>> profile and therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>>>
>>> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
>>> and the Billie (right)
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>>>
 Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you 
 could try in Sacramento. 

 On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:

 Leah,
 The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
 bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
 the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
 the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
 Doug

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:

 Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded 
 geo on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s 
 still a reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have 
 a 
 grilver Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. 
 But 
 I wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next d

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's
based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my
comment about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more
towards someone who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to
that really long reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll
get more than a full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem,
and I imagine that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's reach to be short
even when you're just cruising along, then yeah a longer stem is probably
due.

I am ISO that long Faceplater but I swear this doesn't affect my feedback
:)

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 5:34 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too close
> to me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but there's a
> used 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for rise) I might
> be able to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 135 Faceplater be too
> much reach? I don't want to lean so far forward that I'm bearing weight on
> my hands. I also don't want to be bolt upright.
>
> Bones, you might have insight here as well...
>
> I'm sure the other Platy owners would love to know for their own builds...
> Leah
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie
>> bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand
>> positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's
>> common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how
>> anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while
>> the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very
>> comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front
>> "hooks", which is a bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your
>> stem length does little more than determine where along the bar you put
>> your brake levers - I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand
>> position;  Rivendell puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like
>> 1.5 grip's worth about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put
>> your hands forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.
>>
>> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their
>> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and
>> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.
>>
>> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left)
>> and the Billie (right)
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could
>>> try in Sacramento.
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah,
>>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some
>>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right
>>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H
>>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long)
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars,
>>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too
>>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why,
>>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now.
>>> Any

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too close 
to me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but there's a 
used 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for rise) I might 
be able to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 135 Faceplater be too 
much reach? I don't want to lean so far forward that I'm bearing weight on 
my hands. I also don't want to be bolt upright. 

Bones, you might have insight here as well...

I'm sure the other Platy owners would love to know for their own builds...
Leah  

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie bar.  
> That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand positions of 
> the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's common practice 
> to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how anyone makes 
> decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while the Billie 
> extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very comfortably and 
> naturally slide your hands all the way into the front "hooks", which is a 
> bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your stem length does 
> little more than determine where along the bar you put your brake levers - 
> I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand position;  Rivendell 
> puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 1.5 grip's worth 
> about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put your hands 
> forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>
> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their 
> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and 
> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>
> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
> and the Billie (right)
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>
>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
>> try in Sacramento. 
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> Leah,
>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>> we could try it out!
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
>> your impressions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Kate,

Albatross--I like this bar a lot and like the look and rise, but the 
biggest issue is real estate (grips, brakes, shifter, bell and mirror all 
on bar for me)  This bar also has a bit of a rise that I like.  On my 54.5 
AHH, I have this paired with a 60 stem.  I'd do OK with a 70, too.  I think 
I ride a little more upgright than you, but not Mary Poppins.  Even with 
limited RE, it's probably my favorite.  The swoops are to me, artistic and 
mimic the swoop of the rear seat stays (not sure if named that part right).

Choco--I like this bar a lot, but I need more rise that what it gives 
(none).  Mine was the steel Moosey version on my 51 Joe Appalooosa, so the 
stem was a 12 cm with a rise built in.  Because of the lack of rise that I 
need to not have neck pain when riding, I'm not considering these for my 
Platy (the non moosey aluminum ones don't have any rise).  

Loscos--I bought these from fellow lister Joe B (thanks, Joe!) as a 
possible bar, because it has a similar shape to the Choco and has a little 
rise.  I don't love the look but think it will work well. My biggest 
concern is these is that it will come back too far, even with a long stem.

Billie--after reading the comments about this within the last two days, I 
decided to try these.  It looks nice like the albatross but with more real 
estate, and it doesn't come back as far as the Loscos.  My biggest concern 
is they are wider than the others, which are already wide enough...

(it's so hard to find a perfect partner, whether it be boyfriend or 
handlebar...)

When I pick up my Platy,  I expect to also have my AHH with me.  We can 
meet at the park and you can look, test ride and even borrow the two 
handlebars that I don't put on the bike.  Send me a PM if interested.

Will,

It's interesting that Maia has an 85 stem with the Alba.  I need something 
shorter, but that might be good for Kate.

Leah,

Here we go again, getting each excited and spending money on fabulous bike 
stuff.  Yes, just change one thing at a time.  Most likely, if Analog can 
get me this bar, they'll start me on a 10cm stem or long.  I like a little 
more "lean."  I hope they are not too wide.  I'm looking forward to hearing 
your reaction.

Roberta
On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:19:07 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Bones, thank you for the input.  
> Maybe I go with the Choco and make sure I have a long enough stem so my 
> reach is familiar to me.  A sweet spot in-between upright and bent over.
> At some point I will have to go with their expertise and give something a 
> try.[image: MVI_5447_Moment.jpg]
> I sent this photo to Vince so he could see how I've been riding my hybrid 
> bike.  This is why he said Choco.
> I'm so happy to have found you all.  
> I will be sure to post pics of me and my Riv Platy.  
> I have no idea what I'm in for.  It will be wild.
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> 50 Mermaid Platy...coming soon
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:06:12 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> P.S. Kate, I'm with Vince on this one. If you are used to drops the Choco 
>> does offer better hand positions, especially if you don't need them up 
>> high. I've used Albatross bars a bunch but I have always come back to the 
>> Chocos (especially inverted). Every time I ride Albatross bars I end up 
>> putting my hands all the way forward and they just aren't as comfortable 
>> there as they are on the Choco. Albatross wins for style, Choco wins for 
>> function.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:00:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I think it really all depends on where you like to put your hands. I 
>>> love the Billie Bars too, because I like to move my hands back and forth. 
>>> My wife only ever seemed to hold the end of the Boscos on her 52 Clem (10cm 
>>> stem), so when I put her Platypus together I had two options ready: more 
>>> Boscos on a 12-13cm Tallux or Albatross on an 85cm fillet brazed 
>>> flaceplater. In the end I chose the Boscos for aesthetic purposes. No doubt 
>>> I would have had to max out the stem to make the Billies or Chocos work. 
>>> Rise was as big a factor as reach for her. You can accomplish the same 
>>> thing a few different ways. With respect to the hand positions on the 
>>> Boscos, that forward position seems to work best when the bars are angled 
>>> down a good bit and/or low enough.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie 
 bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand 
 positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's 
 common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how 
 anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while 
 the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very 
 comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front 
 "hooks", which is a bunc

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Joe - agree. Billies have flown under the radar, and one wonders how, since Riv 
has a limited offering of handlebars. Now, everyone knows about Albatross bars 
- those aptly named, pretty bars that make your bike appear to be taking 
flight. Albatross bars have a loyal fanbase, and logically, we should have 
taken note of the new and improved model. But in the keeping with Riv’s 
unfortunate nomenclature, Will went and named the new bar after grandma*. I 
think that might be where we got lost. New and improved Albatross? Sign me up. 
Grandma bar? Well, what else do ya got around here… 

Mine will likely ship today and as soon as they arrive, I’ll brave swapping 
over the VO 2 bolt brake levers with shims (scary!) and leave my thoughts about 
them on a thread. I may need a longer-reach stem than the 90 that is on the 
Platypus already. Change one thing at a time, Leah…

Leah

*I’m sure she was an exemplary woman.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 17, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, it 
> seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
> couple years ago. 
> 
> Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on grips 
> so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much time to 
> remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove and 
> replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 😁
> 
> Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard
> 
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>> Leah,
>> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
>> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
>> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
>> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar switches 
>> easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm doing a slow 
>> build.
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo on 
>>> that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>> 
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
 I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
 on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
 Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open 
 to hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it 
 long) and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> 
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask 
>> why, I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it 
>> hurts enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been 
>> known to sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this 
>> behavior by now. Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 
>> 225 mm Tallux) on there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just 
>> ordered a Billie bar, which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me 
>> enough, though it’s only about 1.5 inches further away from me than my 
>> Boscos. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 
>> are your impressions?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to 
>>> take a file or grinder to it though.
>>> 
 On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
 That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
 hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's 
 pictured) wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too 
 narrow by a couple of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Qu

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

I know, it was just funny to me when I got the stem and went through the 
whole process of holding the bar in place while I busied myself with 
threading 4 bolts in and doing the cross pattern over and over to get them 
evenly snugged up. Not the quick job I'd planned on! 


On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 8:16:59 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Joe - Not if you have wrapped and shellac’d your bars!
>
> Doug - Hot tip, call Rivendell and on occasion, they might have what you 
> need that just hasn’t made it on the site yet. That’s how I got my 110 
> faceplater.
>
> W
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, 
> it seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
> couple years ago. 
>
>
> Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on 
> grips so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much 
> time to remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove 
> and replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 😁
>
> Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
>> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
>> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
>> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar 
>> switches easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm 
>> doing a slow build.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 
>>> are your impressions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
>>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
 That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
 hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
 wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
 of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.

 Tom

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

When I spoke to Vince a few months ago he told me that the 52 Clem was 
something like 7-8cm longer than the 50cm Platypus. If the stock 52 Clem 
comes with a 10cm stem, in my mind that means go as long as on the stem as 
you can with any of the sweptback bars on the Platypus. Just for reference: 
on my Appaloosa I used both the Chocomoose (12cm extension) and Billies on 
a 12cm stem. I never grabbed them at the ends of the bars, and always 
wanted them to be just a tad farther away. Riv seems to have addressed that 
by making the latest generation of Appaloosa a tad longer.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 11:02:39 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, it 
> seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
> couple years ago. 
>
> Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on 
> grips so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much 
> time to remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove 
> and replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 😁
>
> Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
>> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
>> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
>> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar 
>> switches easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm 
>> doing a slow build.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 
>>> are your impressions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
>>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
 That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
 hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
 wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
 of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.

 Tom

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Will Horton]

Joe - Not if you have wrapped and shellac’d your bars!

Doug - Hot tip, call Rivendell and on occasion, they might have what you need 
that just hasn’t made it on the site yet. That’s how I got my 110 faceplater.

W

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, it 
> seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
> couple years ago. 
> 
> Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on grips 
> so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much time to 
> remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove and 
> replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 😁
> 
> Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard
> 
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>> Leah,
>> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
>> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
>> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
>> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar switches 
>> easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm doing a slow 
>> build.
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo on 
>>> that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>> 
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
 I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
 on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
 Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open 
 to hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it 
 long) and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> 
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask 
>> why, I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it 
>> hurts enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been 
>> known to sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this 
>> behavior by now. Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 
>> 225 mm Tallux) on there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just 
>> ordered a Billie bar, which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me 
>> enough, though it’s only about 1.5 inches further away from me than my 
>> Boscos. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 
>> are your impressions?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to 
>>> take a file or grinder to it though.
>>> 
 On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
 That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
 hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's 
 pictured) wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too 
 narrow by a couple of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality 
 control issue I guess.
 
 Tom
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, it 
seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
couple years ago. 

Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on 
grips so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much 
time to remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove 
and replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 😁

Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar 
> switches easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm 
> doing a slow build.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>> we could try it out!
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
>> your impressions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
>>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
>>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Leah,
Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar 
switches easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm 
doing a slow build.
Doug

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo on 
> that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
> we could try it out!
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>
> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close 
> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I 
> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
> a file or grinder to it though.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Bones' experience about Albatross vs. Choco was very interesting to me!  
I've only used the Albatross between the two, and chalked up the difference 
between the two (functionally, at least) to simply different rise and reach 
numbers. But it's a good point that the increased rise on the Albatross 
means that flipped-up, the 'hooks' are not very ergonomic because they 
angle downwards too much; yet flipped the drop is so significant that a) 
you need huge stem rise and b) looks weird.  Both Choco and Billie address 
this, and I think they're both better bars as a result. They're basically 
interchangeable other than the Billie gives you a bit more forward range, 
and they flare out a bit more which imo gives increased bike control if you 
ride off-road too.   

To Kate's concern about the Choco being too short-reach, I totally get that 
concern but I am pretty sure that the Platy's are long enough that you 
don't need to worry. Assuming the ST dimension is typical for you, I'd bet 
a 10-11cm stem would get you right where you want to be.  I do wish full 
geometry tables were published for the Platy though! 
On Monday, 17 May 2021 at 18:52:14 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi Kate,
>
> I’ve had Albatross bars on my original Riv, a Betty with a 10 cm stem. 
> With those bars, I wanted to sit up and hold the ends of the bars with my 
> fingertips - too far for me. The Platy is much longer, so I really think 
> the Albatross would be too far, though I adore the look of them. The other 
> thing about the Albatross: not a lot of real estate to put your things on. 
> I like my iPhone mount and a Randi Jo bag and a mirror and bell on my bars, 
> and the curves of the Albatross prohibit good placement of these 
> accoutrements. The Billie Bar will give you a lot more room, I think. The 
> Chocos look promising if you don’t want the rise in your bar, and you can 
> put lots of stuff on it. 
>
> I think either Choco or Billie would make you very happy, and guess what? 
> If not, you can sell them on here and buy a different bar! It’s like $100 
> investment and has good resale value. Bars are easy to swap out and you can 
> do it right at home. Just choose something and try it out! Get that Platy 
> built and in your hands this week, I say!  
>
> Jason, I’m greatly encouraged by your opinion on the Billies. I have 
> wanted to slide my hands forward and never can because there are levers in 
> my way, and with the dip in the bar you cannot shift them forward. So I 
> always hang on to the grips. But how nice would it be to have THAT option? 
> I’ll soon know.
>
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> This is the discussion for me!
> Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy 
> build.  
> I just don't know.  
> Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on 
> the hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
> I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a 
> Mary Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the 
> cockpit, I will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with 
> climbing hills?  
> Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.  
> Leaning towards Albatross.
> I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something 
> likethis week.  
> Leah...Billie's also sound good.  
> I just don't know.
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Will Horton]

We just swapped out Tosco bars on an 85cm fillet faceplater stem to Albatross 
bars with the same 85cm stem and sofar this has been perfect for Maia on her 55 
Platy who is appreciating the extra hand positions compared to the Tosco’s. 
More forward leaning, less Mary Poppins.

I say Albatross or Choco. If you go Choco, you will need a longer stem than the 
Albatross bars. Like I said, we are using an 85cm on the albatross bars and I 
am using a 110 with my Choco’s. 

I highly recommend getting a fillet faceplater stem as it makes swapping bars 
out later a lot easier, particularly if you have wrapped your bars and glued on 
cork grips and you hopefully have hinged clamps on your shifters. 

All this stuff is super hard to nail down since it’s so personal and like Leah 
said, take your best guess and sell later on if you need to, or just toss em in 
your stash for later like I do.

This is all part of the fun.

W

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2021, at 6:52 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kate,
> 
> I’ve had Albatross bars on my original Riv, a Betty with a 10 cm stem. With 
> those bars, I wanted to sit up and hold the ends of the bars with my 
> fingertips - too far for me. The Platy is much longer, so I really think the 
> Albatross would be too far, though I adore the look of them. The other thing 
> about the Albatross: not a lot of real estate to put your things on. I like 
> my iPhone mount and a Randi Jo bag and a mirror and bell on my bars, and the 
> curves of the Albatross prohibit good placement of these accoutrements. The 
> Billie Bar will give you a lot more room, I think. The Chocos look promising 
> if you don’t want the rise in your bar, and you can put lots of stuff on it. 
> 
> I think either Choco or Billie would make you very happy, and guess what? If 
> not, you can sell them on here and buy a different bar! It’s like $100 
> investment and has good resale value. Bars are easy to swap out and you can 
> do it right at home. Just choose something and try it out! Get that Platy 
> built and in your hands this week, I say!  
> 
> Jason, I’m greatly encouraged by your opinion on the Billies. I have wanted 
> to slide my hands forward and never can because there are levers in my way, 
> and with the dip in the bar you cannot shift them forward. So I always hang 
> on to the grips. But how nice would it be to have THAT option? I’ll soon know.
> 
> Leah
> 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is the discussion for me!
>> Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy 
>> build.  
>> I just don't know.  
>> Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on the 
>> hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
>> I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a Mary 
>> Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the cockpit, I 
>> will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with climbing hills?  
>> Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.  
>> Leaning towards Albatross.
>> I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something 
>> likethis week.  
>> Leah...Billie's also sound good.  
>> I just don't know.
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops on 
>>> the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my Clem 
>>> build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to hear 
>>> what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) and 
>>> agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
 Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
 regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>> 
 https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask 
> why, I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it 
> hurts enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been 
> known to sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this 
> behavior by now. Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 
> 225 mm Tallux) on there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just 
> ordered a Billie bar, which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me 
> enough, though it’s only about 1.5 inches further away from me than my 
> Boscos. 
> 
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Kate,

I’ve had Albatross bars on my original Riv, a Betty with a 10 cm stem. With 
those bars, I wanted to sit up and hold the ends of the bars with my fingertips 
- too far for me. The Platy is much longer, so I really think the Albatross 
would be too far, though I adore the look of them. The other thing about the 
Albatross: not a lot of real estate to put your things on. I like my iPhone 
mount and a Randi Jo bag and a mirror and bell on my bars, and the curves of 
the Albatross prohibit good placement of these accoutrements. The Billie Bar 
will give you a lot more room, I think. The Chocos look promising if you don’t 
want the rise in your bar, and you can put lots of stuff on it. 

I think either Choco or Billie would make you very happy, and guess what? If 
not, you can sell them on here and buy a different bar! It’s like $100 
investment and has good resale value. Bars are easy to swap out and you can do 
it right at home. Just choose something and try it out! Get that Platy built 
and in your hands this week, I say!  

Jason, I’m greatly encouraged by your opinion on the Billies. I have wanted to 
slide my hands forward and never can because there are levers in my way, and 
with the dip in the bar you cannot shift them forward. So I always hang on to 
the grips. But how nice would it be to have THAT option? I’ll soon know.

Leah

> On May 17, 2021, at 5:50 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is the discussion for me!
> Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy 
> build.  
> I just don't know.  
> Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on the 
> hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
> I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a Mary 
> Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the cockpit, I 
> will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with climbing hills?  
> Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.  
> Leaning towards Albatross.
> I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something 
> likethis week.  
> Leah...Billie's also sound good.  
> I just don't know.
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
> 
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops on 
> the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my Clem 
> build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to hear 
> what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) and 
> agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
> 
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars 
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
>>> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close 
>>> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I 
>>> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
>>> your impressions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
>>> 
 On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett >>> > wrote:
 
 That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
 would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
 a file or grinder to it though.
 
 On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
 That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
 hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
 wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
 of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
 
 Tom
 
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Kate,
I rode the hoods most of the time too, rarely in the drops unless my lower
back needed a stretch. I'm thinking Choco or Billie but the decision is oh
so hard!. Once I make the final decision on bars, stem length is next. Oh
bother. Stem/bars are so integral that making the wrong decision on one is
problematic. Or is it? As I type I'm thinking that any bar could be made to
work with the right stem length. H.
Doug H
Athens, Ga

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:50 PM 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This is the discussion for me!
> Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy
> build.
> I just don't know.
> Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on
> the hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
> I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a
> Mary Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the
> cockpit, I will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with
> climbing hills?
> Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.
> Leaning towards Albatross.
> I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something
> likethis week.
> Leah...Billie's also sound good.
> I just don't know.
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long)
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me.
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars,
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why,
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now.
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar,
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about
>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos.
>>
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are
>> your impressions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett 
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it
>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take
>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to
>>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured)
>>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple
>>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

P.S. Kate, I'm with Vince on this one. If you are used to drops the Choco 
does offer better hand positions, especially if you don't need them up 
high. I've used Albatross bars a bunch but I have always come back to the 
Chocos (especially inverted). Every time I ride Albatross bars I end up 
putting my hands all the way forward and they just aren't as comfortable 
there as they are on the Choco. Albatross wins for style, Choco wins for 
function.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:00:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> I think it really all depends on where you like to put your hands. I love 
> the Billie Bars too, because I like to move my hands back and forth. My 
> wife only ever seemed to hold the end of the Boscos on her 52 Clem (10cm 
> stem), so when I put her Platypus together I had two options ready: more 
> Boscos on a 12-13cm Tallux or Albatross on an 85cm fillet brazed 
> flaceplater. In the end I chose the Boscos for aesthetic purposes. No doubt 
> I would have had to max out the stem to make the Billies or Chocos work. 
> Rise was as big a factor as reach for her. You can accomplish the same 
> thing a few different ways. With respect to the hand positions on the 
> Boscos, that forward position seems to work best when the bars are angled 
> down a good bit and/or low enough.
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie 
>> bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand 
>> positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's 
>> common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how 
>> anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while 
>> the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very 
>> comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front 
>> "hooks", which is a bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your 
>> stem length does little more than determine where along the bar you put 
>> your brake levers - I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand 
>> position;  Rivendell puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 
>> 1.5 grip's worth about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put 
>> your hands forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>>
>> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their 
>> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and 
>> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>>
>> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
>> and the Billie (right)
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
>>> try in Sacramento. 
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah,
>>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to thi

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bones]

I think it really all depends on where you like to put your hands. I love 
the Billie Bars too, because I like to move my hands back and forth. My 
wife only ever seemed to hold the end of the Boscos on her 52 Clem (10cm 
stem), so when I put her Platypus together I had two options ready: more 
Boscos on a 12-13cm Tallux or Albatross on an 85cm fillet brazed 
flaceplater. In the end I chose the Boscos for aesthetic purposes. No doubt 
I would have had to max out the stem to make the Billies or Chocos work. 
Rise was as big a factor as reach for her. You can accomplish the same 
thing a few different ways. With respect to the hand positions on the 
Boscos, that forward position seems to work best when the bars are angled 
down a good bit and/or low enough.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie bar.  
> That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand positions of 
> the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's common practice 
> to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how anyone makes 
> decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while the Billie 
> extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very comfortably and 
> naturally slide your hands all the way into the front "hooks", which is a 
> bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your stem length does 
> little more than determine where along the bar you put your brake levers - 
> I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand position;  Rivendell 
> puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 1.5 grip's worth 
> about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put your hands 
> forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>
> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their 
> incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and 
> therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>
> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
> and the Billie (right)
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>
>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
>> try in Sacramento. 
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> Leah,
>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>> we could try it out!
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>
>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>
>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
>> your impressions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft alu

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This is the discussion for me!
Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy 
build.  
I just don't know.  
Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on 
the hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a Mary 
Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the cockpit, I 
will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with climbing hills?  
Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.  
Leaning towards Albatross.
I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something 
likethis week.  
Leah...Billie's also sound good.  
I just don't know.
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close 
> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I 
> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
> a file or grinder to it though.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

Lucky,
I'm in Athens, Ga but I appreciate the offer!
Doug

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:05:10 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could 
> try in Sacramento. 
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>
> Leah,
>
> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some bars 
> before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right the 
> top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H the 
> ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
> we could try it out!
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>
> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close 
> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I 
> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
> a file or grinder to it though.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jason Fuller]

Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie bar.
That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand positions of
the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's common practice
to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how anyone makes
decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while the Billie
extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very comfortably and
naturally slide your hands all the way into the front "hooks", which is a
bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your stem length does
little more than determine where along the bar you put your brake levers -
I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand position;  Rivendell
puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 1.5 grip's worth
about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put your hands
forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.

Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond their
incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low profile and
therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.

My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) and
the Billie (right)

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:

> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could
> try in Sacramento.
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>
> Leah,
> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some bars
> before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right the
> top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H the
> ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure.
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo
> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a
> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver
> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I
> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and
> we could try it out!
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford 
> wrote:
>
> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops
> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my
> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to
> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long)
> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me.
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close
> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I
> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts
> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to
> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now.
> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on
> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar,
> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about
> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos.
>
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are
> your impressions?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett 
> wrote:
>
> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it
> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take
> a file or grinder to it though.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to
>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured)
>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple
>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[luckyturnip]

Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you could try in 
Sacramento. 

> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> Leah,
> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some bars 
> before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right the top 
> tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H the ETT is 
> about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>> 
>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo on 
>> that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I wonder 
>> if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and we could 
>> try it out!
>> 
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops on 
>>> the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my Clem 
>>> build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to hear 
>>> what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) and 
>>> agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> 
 Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
 regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
 https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask 
> why, I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it 
> hurts enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been 
> known to sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this 
> behavior by now. Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 
> 225 mm Tallux) on there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just 
> ordered a Billie bar, which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me 
> enough, though it’s only about 1.5 inches further away from me than my 
> Boscos. 
> 
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
> 
> Thanks!
> Leah
> 
>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to 
>> take a file or grinder to it though.
>> 
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's 
>>> pictured) wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow 
>>> by a couple of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control 
>>> issue I guess.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>> 
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