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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2024-07-11 Thread Gordon Stam

Very nice, Brian. Nothing like a new bike. I'm thinking there's another top
tube bike in my future and maybe it'll be a Sam. Congrats!

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, 12:04 PM Ryan  wrote:

> @Brian...that periwinkle is a great color and that's a nice build! I think
> I'd keep the eggplant which I see you also have on the driveside chainstay
> because it picks up on the purplish hue of that periwinkle. Although seeing
> the bike in the flesh *is* different from a laptop monitor.
>
> Glad you enjoy the bike
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:57:46 AM UTC-5 Brian Watts wrote:
>
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>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> I was there in the morning yesterday too.
>>> I think I saw your bike!
>>>
>>> Let’s see some new ride photos!
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Brian Watts  wrote:
>>>
>>> I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was
>>> waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a
>>> proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to
>>> work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but
>>> they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new
>>> seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur
>>> and moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur
>>> did not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt
>>> borderline dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels
>>> so I kept with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again.
>>> *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too
>>> loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the
>>> Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed
>>> neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation
>>> non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the
>>> stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound
>>> imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the
>>> Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't
>>> in stock atm.
>>> *Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new
>>> RBW front rack etc.
>>> Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the
>>> stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the
>>> Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I
>>> was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the
>>> low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12
>>> which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that
>>> switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply
>>> with pics.
>>>
>>> I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to
>>> suggestions!
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!
>>> Brian
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2024-07-11 Thread Ryan

@Brian...that periwinkle is a great color and that's a nice build! I think 
I'd keep the eggplant which I see you also have on the driveside chainstay 
because it picks up on the purplish hue of that periwinkle. Although seeing 
the bike in the flesh *is* different from a laptop monitor.

Glad you enjoy the bike

On Thursday, July 11, 2024 at 12:57:46 AM UTC-5 Brian Watts wrote:

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> On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> I was there in the morning yesterday too.
>> I think I saw your bike!
>>
>> Let’s see some new ride photos!
>> k.
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Brian Watts  wrote:
>>
>> I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was 
>> waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a 
>> proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to 
>> work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but 
>> they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new 
>> seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!
>>
>>
>>
>> Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur 
>> and moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur 
>> did not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt 
>> borderline dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels 
>> so I kept with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again. 
>> *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too 
>> loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the 
>> Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed 
>> neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation 
>> non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the 
>> stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound 
>> imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the 
>> Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't 
>> in stock atm.
>> *Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new 
>> RBW front rack etc.
>> Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the 
>> stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the 
>> Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I 
>> was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the 
>> low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12 
>> which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that 
>> switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply 
>> with pics.
>>
>> I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to 
>> suggestions!
>>
>> I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!
>> Brian
>>
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Brian,I was there in the morning yesterday too.I think I saw your bike!Let’s see some new ride photos!k.On Jul 10, 2024, at 7:02 PM, Brian Watts wrote:I made the pilgrimage to Walnut Creek via Bart yesterday, my Sam was waiting for me. I thought it would be romantic to ride home and get a proper feel for my first Rivendell...and it WAS. Roman is a pleasure to work with and he showed me some details of the bike. I didn't know this but they give you some swag too:patch kit, allen tool, bandana, the new seatpost diam. stickers etc...fun!Build details: I bought the Sam Hillborne to replace a Crust Romanceur and moved most of the parts over. The low trail handling of the Romanceur did not sit well with me, felt too unstable and quick descents felt borderline dangerous requiring both hands on bars. I did need 700c wheels so I kept with the Velocity Quills in case I go tubeless again. *Hub sound is important to me, I have a White T11 that is very loud (too loud for me) and would make sense (to me) on a proper road bike. But the Sam (and the Crust) is my do most things bike, including low speed neighborhood runs with my kids, errands, etc. A loud hub is a conversation non-starter in these situations. I visited RBW earlier and really liked the stock Velocity hub, louder than Deore but still quiet-ish, a classy sound imo. Rich used one word to describe the Silvr hub.LOUD. I also have the Velocity dynamo hub which Rich says is the same as the Kasai (which isn't in stock atm.*Son light, paul cantis, White VBC cranks (44x30) albatross bars, a new RBW front rack etc.Bike thoughts: Only 20 miles with some hills into it but I love the stability! That was my main reason for selling the Crust and I love how the Sam handles. With sweep back bars the handling can become too light but I was able to ride hands free down small hills which I would never try on the low trail Crust. YAY!! I will fine tune bar height; the stem is a Tallux 12 which is an error, we had decided on the 90-190 so Roman will have that switched next week. I will try to post pics here but if not I will reply with pics.I may change the eggplant bartape to olive or navy or grey. I'm open to suggestions!I'm looking forward to more time on the bike, thanks for reading!Brian

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-12 Thread Richard Rose

What Valerie says precisely. Susie / Gus bikes are mountain bikes. “Hillibike” is clever & cute but does not do them justice, in my humble opinion. It’s confusing because you can ride them for other duties but.., if you have tires that optimize a Gus/Susie for MTB use, it’s not fantastic on pavement. That said I do not hesitate to ride my Gus to the trail or use it for gravel or bikepacking trips. But if dirt is not a big part of my ride I take my Clem. BTW, a riding friend just bought a used Sam - it was Rich Lesnik’s bike from Riv! It’s a beauty & a 26” bike. We did a Sub24 mostly gravel bikepacking trip. He on his Sam, I on my Clem. He was loving the Sam. But he does not do MTB.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 12, 2024, at 12:30 AM, Valerie Yates wrote:I have both and consider them very different bikes. With the right tires, you can definitely ride your Appa on dirt and trails. It is my choice for loaded tours and scenic rides. The Susie has a very different feel to me. The tires can go much bigger and somehow its geometry makes me feel much more confident taking it on trails with more variable terrain. Downhills are a blast. But it is not my ride around town choice. To me, the Susie is the ultimate rigid mountain bike. It is big and bouncy and fun. If I could only have one, I consider the Appa more versatile. But it is mighty nice to have both. If you are on the fence, start taking your Appa on trails for now and see if you want a more dirt-oriented bike. Best,Val in Boulder CO On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:35:30 PM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:Can someone who’s ridden both bikes tell me: what’s the difference, between the Susie and the Appaloosa? I’d like to start riding more dirt and trails—but no crazy fast stuff or jumps—and I’m wondering if I should get a Susie or just stick with my Appaloosa.

Does the Susie have better clearance, geometry, and/or strength to make it a better choice for dirt and trails? Or is the Susie similar enough to the Appaloosa that I won’t notice the difference?

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-11 Thread Valerie Yates

I have both and consider them very different bikes. With the right tires, 
you can definitely ride your Appa on dirt and trails. It is my choice for 
loaded tours and scenic rides. The Susie has a very different feel to me. 
The tires can go much bigger and somehow its geometry makes me feel much 
more confident taking it on trails with more variable terrain. Downhills 
are a blast. But it is not my ride around town choice. To me, the Susie is 
the ultimate rigid mountain bike. It is big and bouncy and fun. If I could 
only have one, I consider the Appa more versatile. But it is mighty nice to 
have both. If you are on the fence, start taking your Appa on trails for 
now and see if you want a more dirt-oriented bike. 

Best,
Val in Boulder CO 
On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:35:30 PM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Can someone who’s ridden both bikes tell me: what’s the difference, 
> between the Susie and the Appaloosa? I’d like to start riding more dirt and 
> trails—but no crazy fast stuff or jumps—and I’m wondering if I should get a 
> Susie or just stick with my Appaloosa.
>
> Does the Susie have better clearance, geometry, and/or strength to make it 
> a better choice for dirt and trails? Or is the Susie similar enough to the 
> Appaloosa that I won’t notice the difference?

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-11 Thread Matthew Williams

Can someone who’s ridden both bikes tell me: what’s the difference, between the 
Susie and the Appaloosa? I’d like to start riding more dirt and trails—but no 
crazy fast stuff or jumps—and I’m wondering if I should get a Susie or just 
stick with my Appaloosa.

Does the Susie have better clearance, geometry, and/or strength to make it a 
better choice for dirt and trails? Or is the Susie similar enough to the 
Appaloosa that I won’t notice the difference?

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-01 Thread BrianT

Of course I missed some actual fat slicks;)  It's all good. The Kenda's 
seem great so far... I don't notice any road buzz, and they clearly have 
better traction than the Big Ben's I've been riding for the last couple 
years.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 2:12:31 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> 29 x 2.5” slick:
>
>
> https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB
>
> I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. 
> Better than Big Apples IMO. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help 
>> me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
>> overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 
>>
>> Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
>> Couldn't be happier!
>>
>> Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
>> There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
>> something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
>> and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
>> settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
>> here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 
>>
>> Build overview:
>>
>>- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
>>- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver 
>>pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with 
>>the champagne color. 
>>- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
>>- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. 
>>I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm 
>> spinning 
>>out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.
>>- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
>>evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
>>- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and 
>>the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
>>gorgeous... thank you Rich!
>>- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the 
>>clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
>>commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
>>complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
>>noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, 
>> and 
>>he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
>>now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
>>very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
>>looking for!
>>
>> After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San 
>> Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in 
>> Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!
>>
>> [image: IMG_2015.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_2028.jpeg]
>>
>> Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
>> conversations.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-06-01 Thread BrianT

Schlepping was no problem. It's surprisingly light to heft (granted, there
was no rack or fenders at that point). It's looong, but it fit on BART
fine. I expect to feel a little cramped the next time I'm on a crowded
Caltrain (Monday...) and I have doubts as to whether it would fit
gracefully on the rack at the front of a bus. I've made my peace with that.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 7:25:05 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

Congratulations on that gorgeous Susie! Did you find it difficult to schlep
it around on public transportation, or was it not a big deal?

As for tires, I’ve only had Teravail Ehline 2.5s on my Gus, and I have
found them quite enjoyable for cruising around town on pavement and they’re
great on trails too. Since it’s my only real “off road” bike that I would
use on the local mtn bike trails, I’ll probably never put faster, smoother
tires on it… but you never know.

Brian
Lexington KY

On May 31, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Pam Bikes wrote:

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

29 x 2.5” slick:

https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB

I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well.
Better than Big Apples IMO.

Eric

On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT wrote:

Hi Everyone!

I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help me
decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input...
overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either.

Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie.
Couldn't be happier!

Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic.
There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with
something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack
and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust
settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts
here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires.

Build overview:

- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver pedals,
but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with the
champagne color.
- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. I
haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm spinning
out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.
- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then
evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and the
new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're
gorgeous... thank you Rich!
- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the
clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I
commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much
complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I
noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, and
he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for
now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but
very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was
looking for!

After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San Francisco
I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in Golden Gate
Park. Two thumbs up so far!

[image: IMG_2015.jpeg]

[image: IMG_2028.jpeg]

Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool
conversations.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-05-31 Thread Josh C

Brian, 

Congrats on a beautiful new bike. It looks killer, enjoy!

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:25:05 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Congratulations on that gorgeous Susie! Did you find it difficult to 
> schlep it around on public transportation, or was it not a big deal?
>
> As for tires, I’ve only had Teravail Ehline 2.5s on my Gus, and I have 
> found them quite enjoyable for cruising around town on pavement and they’re 
> great on trails too. Since it’s my only real “off road” bike that I would 
> use on the local mtn bike trails, I’ll probably never put faster, smoother 
> tires on it… but you never know.
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY 
>
> On May 31, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>
> Beautiful!  Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> 29 x 2.5” slick:
>>
>>
>> https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB
>>
>> I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. 
>> Better than Big Apples IMO. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>
>>> I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help 
>>> me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
>>> overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 
>>>
>>> Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
>>> Couldn't be happier!
>>>
>>> Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
>>> There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
>>> something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
>>> and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
>>> settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
>>> here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 
>>>
>>> Build overview:
>>>
>>>- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
>>>- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver 
>>>pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love 
>>> with 
>>>the champagne color. 
>>>- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
>>>- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. 
>>>I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm 
>>> spinning 
>>>out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly 
>>> recommended.
>>>- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
>>>evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
>>>- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and 
>>>the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
>>>gorgeous... thank you Rich!
>>>- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of 
>>>the clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
>>>commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
>>>complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
>>>noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, 
>>> and 
>>>he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
>>>now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
>>>very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
>>>looking for!
>>>
>>> After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San 
>>> Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in 
>>> Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2015.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2028.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
>>> conversations.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-05-31 Thread Brian Turner

Congratulations on that gorgeous Susie! Did you find it difficult to schlep it around on public transportation, or was it not a big deal?As for tires, I’ve only had Teravail Ehline 2.5s on my Gus, and I have found them quite enjoyable for cruising around town on pavement and they’re great on trails too. Since it’s my only real “off road” bike that I would use on the local mtn bike trails, I’ll probably never put faster, smoother tires on it… but you never know.BrianLexington KY On May 31, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Pam Bikes wrote:Beautiful! Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:29 x 2.5” slick:https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcBI’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. Better than Big Apples IMO. EricOn Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT wrote:Hi Everyone!I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. Couldn't be happier!Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. Build overview:Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with the champagne color. IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm spinning out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're gorgeous... thank you Rich!I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, and he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was looking for!After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool conversations.B

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

2024-05-31 Thread Pam Bikes

Beautiful!  Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> 29 x 2.5” slick:
>
>
> https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB
>
> I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. 
> Better than Big Apples IMO. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help 
>> me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
>> overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 
>>
>> Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
>> Couldn't be happier!
>>
>> Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
>> There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
>> something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
>> and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
>> settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
>> here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 
>>
>> Build overview:
>>
>>- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
>>- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver 
>>pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with 
>>the champagne color. 
>>- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
>>- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. 
>>I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm 
>> spinning 
>>out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.
>>- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
>>evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
>>- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and 
>>the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
>>gorgeous... thank you Rich!
>>- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the 
>>clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
>>commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
>>complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
>>noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, 
>> and 
>>he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
>>now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
>>very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
>>looking for!
>>
>> After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San 
>> Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in 
>> Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!
>>
>> [image: IMG_2015.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_2028.jpeg]
>>
>> Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
>> conversations.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-24 Thread Leah Peterson

Thank you all for indulging me! I suspected this to be a controversial bike and I was nervous to post it. But whether it’s your thing or not, you’ve been gracious. Cerakoting is supposed to be stronger than ano, but I don’t know too much else about it, Patrick. The bike is SO FUN. I got lost for 20 miles last night and didn’t want to come home. It feels very different than my other bikes with its smaller size, albatross bars, and chunky 48mm tires. It’s squirrely when I stand and pedal, and the Silver 2s are a learning curve. I’ve been messing with that wing nut, trying to decide how tight it should be. I had ghost shifting, which never happens to me on my other bikes. Anyway, thanks again for all the remarks! You guys are good sports.LSent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2024, at 3:45 PM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:👍👍Like it Joe!Toshi in OaktownOn Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:06 AM Joe Bernard wrote:Right down to the bolts! An idea I totally stole from Leah, I bought her Clem and did the thing!

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-24 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

👍👍

Like it Joe!
Toshi in Oaktown

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:06 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Right down to the bolts! An idea I totally stole from Leah, I bought her
> Clem and did the thing!
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-23 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

Wow, that is amazing!  Every detail was carefully chosen down to the bolts.

Toshi in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-22 Thread luckyturnip

I LOVE IT! ….Does my purple XO-1 need more color, h?On May 22, 2024, at 20:43, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Finally. New. Bike. Day.This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts to arrive.Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes with most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors. The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My Little Platy. The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be taken on Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings cannot do. I put fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel Platy.I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had rainbow hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL the colors? I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I had my Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for grips, I found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil slick everywhere I could get it. Because oil slick has ALL the colors.All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen. They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild, saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. You can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket. She understood the assignment. I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of approval. The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my adoration of this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to my simple, happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl (most of your were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could choose from her lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you just came out WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for making this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.Please find my video link below.Leahhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - 2002 Size 60 Rambouillet

2022-12-16 Thread MoVelo

Max & Mike - those are both very nice. Orange is the fastest color!

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:14:19 AM UTC-6 maxcr wrote:

> Beautiful bike Michael, congrats! 
>
> I must say I felt a bit of deja vu because I also recently bought a 60 Ram 
> frame on ebay and I just finished building up. I used all the components 
> from my custom road (which I sold last year) which were also inherited from 
> other builds.
>
> I love this: "rackless bike to take out on mid-day rides with no 
> destination in mind" - I have similar hopes for mine.
>
> This is the first bike I've built myself from the frame up, but I feel 
> like I cheated because most of the components from the custom just worked, 
> ie. bottom bracket, chain length, etc... otherwise those might have tricked 
> me up. There is still life in my jack browns, but I can't wait to try some 
> RH tires on it, I will stay with 32mm ish tires though, they feel fast and 
> I have other bikes with wider tires for other types of riding.
>
> I still have to figure out a better / more elegant solution for the 
> downtube bosses, I just didn't use ferrules because they didn't fit but 
> there must be something I'm missing - the shifting is fine though. I 
> ordered new 4mm ferrules (I think that's what Garth suggested on my other 
> thread) to see if that'll do it.
>
> The sad part is that I got sick right after building it, so I haven't 
> ridden it more than around the block. My first impression is that I want a 
> longer stem, we'll see. I hope the temperatures don't drop too fast so I 
> can ride before winter gets bad in Boston.
>
> [image: IMG_8925.jpeg]
> *The saddle isn't tilted up as much anymore and the handlebars came down a 
> bit.
>
> Max
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:40:49 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, I also am a big fan of Nitto’s lugged seatpost and stem. 
>> Steve
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:19 AM Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had a proper Riv for about 5 years and had been itching for a 
>>> simple, rackless bike to take out on mid-day rides with no destination in 
>>> mind. I picked this up from a seller on Pinkbike. Aside from the 
>>> wheels/drivetrain, I've switched up everything else about the build. I 
>>> especially like the aesthetic of the lugged stem/seatpost with the lugs of 
>>> the frame, so many lugs! Frame has the expected paint rubs and an 
>>> unexpected small dent in the top tube, but hey, beausage! Now I don't have 
>>> to be so precious with it. I'm very curious how it will ride compared with 
>>> my 650b Rando Fitz. 
>>>
>>> It's currently kitted out with 48 Noodles, but may switch to Mustache 
>>> which I'm finding I like more and more. I've got 35mm Bon Jon Pass tires in 
>>> there now with very little fender room to spare. I may go with 32mm tires 
>>> and fender it up for the winter and put 35s back on for the summer. I think 
>>> the wheels are stock Dura Ace 9sp era hubs. The TA cranks are gorgeous, 
>>> though I'll likely switch them out for WI Road Cranks. I also haven't used 
>>> DT shifters in at least 10 years, so am excited to try out the Silver 
>>> Shifters on here.
>>>
>>> My ultimate plan is to build up a 700c SS wheelset with WI ENO Eccentric 
>>> hub. After seeing Will's blog post yesterday about his SS Roadini, my plans 
>>> solidified. Minneapolis is currently under 6" of fresh snow with single 
>>> digit temps in the forecast, so haven't gotten this out for a test ride yet.
>>>
>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zLj1t3dUEogv88a8
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - 2002 Size 60 Rambouillet

2022-12-16 Thread Steven Sweedler

Very nice bike, I also am a big fan of Nitto’s lugged seatpost and stem.
Steve

On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:19 AM Michael Ullmer  wrote:

> I haven't had a proper Riv for about 5 years and had been itching for a
> simple, rackless bike to take out on mid-day rides with no destination in
> mind. I picked this up from a seller on Pinkbike. Aside from the
> wheels/drivetrain, I've switched up everything else about the build. I
> especially like the aesthetic of the lugged stem/seatpost with the lugs of
> the frame, so many lugs! Frame has the expected paint rubs and an
> unexpected small dent in the top tube, but hey, beausage! Now I don't have
> to be so precious with it. I'm very curious how it will ride compared with
> my 650b Rando Fitz.
>
> It's currently kitted out with 48 Noodles, but may switch to Mustache
> which I'm finding I like more and more. I've got 35mm Bon Jon Pass tires in
> there now with very little fender room to spare. I may go with 32mm tires
> and fender it up for the winter and put 35s back on for the summer. I think
> the wheels are stock Dura Ace 9sp era hubs. The TA cranks are gorgeous,
> though I'll likely switch them out for WI Road Cranks. I also haven't used
> DT shifters in at least 10 years, so am excited to try out the Silver
> Shifters on here.
>
> My ultimate plan is to build up a 700c SS wheelset with WI ENO Eccentric
> hub. After seeing Will's blog post yesterday about his SS Roadini, my plans
> solidified. Minneapolis is currently under 6" of fresh snow with single
> digit temps in the forecast, so haven't gotten this out for a test ride yet.
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zLj1t3dUEogv88a8
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-27 Thread Leah Peterson

Riding with another Platypus in our Michigan Riv Rides will thrill me TO NO END. I’m SO glad you got your mermaid Platy. I am on the bottom end of the 55, so I bet mine fits the same as your 60 does for you. I love it and would never want to size down. So excited to hear all about your rides and how you like your first Rivendell. And very wise to have your other step thrus, too. They all have their purposes.LeahOn Nov 27, 2022, at 2:59 PM, Tom Palmer wrote:Leah- Yes way! I have as many step through bikes as you now, but only 1 Rivendell. Looking forward to several Michigan Riv rides next year. TomOn Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Tom! No way! Are you bringing this to our next Riv Ride in the springtime here in lovely Michigan?!On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 10:37:33 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Tom, my Clem came with a 135mm FacePlater stem & Bosco bars. I was absolutely convinced it would be way to long & the first thing to get changed. It is now one of my favorite things about the fit & the ride. I just love how roomy the cockpit is and how that contributes to the “in the bike” feeling you describe. Good stuff.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 27, 2022, at 6:59 AM, Tom Palmer wrote:My PBH is 84.5 and I am 5' 9". I am surprised how normal the bike looks. The stem is longer than I anticipated with Albatross bars and such long reach- 90mm stem. I emailed Will at Riv and he was confident it would fit. I did another ride yesterday and really gelling with the bike. I feel really "in" the bike, which is primary directive for all of my bikes. Handles so well and yet comfy as a Cadillac.Tom On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-5 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get ahold of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in regards to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me on the same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell, though, their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks. On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer wrote:Hi all,I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust fan. Thanks Derek!Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I bought new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed the one from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to get the first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am at the bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I would be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it would work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and quick handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer and more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem, Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well. Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but worth the utility. Tom PalmerTwin Lake, MI

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-27 Thread Tom Palmer

Leah- Yes way! I have as many step through bikes as you now, but only 1 
Rivendell. Looking forward to several Michigan Riv rides next year. 
Tom

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Tom! No way! Are you bringing this to our next Riv Ride in the springtime 
> here in lovely Michigan?!
>
> On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 10:37:33 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tom, my Clem came with a 135mm FacePlater stem & Bosco bars. I was 
>> absolutely convinced it would be way to long & the first thing to get 
>> changed. It is now one of my favorite things about the fit & the ride. I 
>> just love how roomy the cockpit is and how that contributes to the “in the 
>> bike” feeling you describe. Good stuff.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2022, at 6:59 AM, Tom Palmer  wrote:
>>
>> My PBH is 84.5 and I am 5' 9". I am surprised how normal the bike looks. 
>> The stem is longer than I anticipated with Albatross bars and such long 
>> reach- 90mm stem. I emailed Will at Riv and he was confident it would fit. 
>>
>> I did another ride yesterday and really gelling with the bike. I feel 
>> really "in" the bike, which is primary directive for all of my bikes. 
>> Handles so well and yet comfy as a Cadillac.
>> Tom
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-5 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get 
>>> ahold of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in 
>>> regards to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me 
>>> on the same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell, 
>>> though, their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust 
 fan. Thanks Derek!
 Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I 
 bought new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed 
 the one from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to 
 get the first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am 
 at 
 the bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I 
 would be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it 
 would work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and 
 quick 
 handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed 
 Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in 
 general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a 
 tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer 
 and 
 more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem, 
 Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar 
 end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized 
 body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are 
 pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders 
 are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well. 
 Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but 
 worth the utility. 
 Tom Palmer
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

Tom! No way! Are you bringing this to our next Riv Ride in the springtime 
here in lovely Michigan?!

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 10:37:33 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tom, my Clem came with a 135mm FacePlater stem & Bosco bars. I was 
> absolutely convinced it would be way to long & the first thing to get 
> changed. It is now one of my favorite things about the fit & the ride. I 
> just love how roomy the cockpit is and how that contributes to the “in the 
> bike” feeling you describe. Good stuff.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2022, at 6:59 AM, Tom Palmer  wrote:
>
> My PBH is 84.5 and I am 5' 9". I am surprised how normal the bike looks. 
> The stem is longer than I anticipated with Albatross bars and such long 
> reach- 90mm stem. I emailed Will at Riv and he was confident it would fit. 
>
> I did another ride yesterday and really gelling with the bike. I feel 
> really "in" the bike, which is primary directive for all of my bikes. 
> Handles so well and yet comfy as a Cadillac.
> Tom
>  
>
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-5 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get 
>> ahold of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in 
>> regards to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me 
>> on the same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell, 
>> though, their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks. 
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust 
>>> fan. Thanks Derek!
>>> Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I 
>>> bought new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed 
>>> the one from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to 
>>> get the first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am at 
>>> the bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I 
>>> would be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it 
>>> would work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and quick 
>>> handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed 
>>> Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in 
>>> general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a 
>>> tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer and 
>>> more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem, 
>>> Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar 
>>> end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized 
>>> body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are 
>>> pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders 
>>> are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well. 
>>> Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but 
>>> worth the utility. 
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI 
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-27 Thread Richard Rose

Tom, my Clem came with a 135mm FacePlater stem & Bosco bars. I was absolutely 
convinced it would be way to long & the first thing to get changed. It is now 
one of my favorite things about the fit & the ride. I just love how roomy the 
cockpit is and how that contributes to the “in the bike” feeling you describe. 
Good stuff.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2022, at 6:59 AM, Tom Palmer  wrote:
> 
> My PBH is 84.5 and I am 5' 9". I am surprised how normal the bike looks. The 
> stem is longer than I anticipated with Albatross bars and such long reach- 
> 90mm stem. I emailed Will at Riv and he was confident it would fit. 
> I did another ride yesterday and really gelling with the bike. I feel really 
> "in" the bike, which is primary directive for all of my bikes. Handles so 
> well and yet comfy as a Cadillac.
> Tom
>  
> 
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-5 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get ahold 
>> of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in regards 
>> to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me on the 
>> same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell, though, 
>> their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust fan. 
>>> Thanks Derek!
>>> Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I bought 
>>> new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed the one 
>>> from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to get the 
>>> first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am at the 
>>> bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I would 
>>> be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it would 
>>> work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and quick 
>>> handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed 
>>> Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in 
>>> general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a 
>>> tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer and 
>>> more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem, 
>>> Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar 
>>> end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized 
>>> body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are 
>>> pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders 
>>> are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well. 
>>> Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but worth 
>>> the utility. 
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI 
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-27 Thread Tom Palmer

My PBH is 84.5 and I am 5' 9". I am surprised how normal the bike looks. 
The stem is longer than I anticipated with Albatross bars and such long 
reach- 90mm stem. I emailed Will at Riv and he was confident it would fit. 
I did another ride yesterday and really gelling with the bike. I feel 
really "in" the bike, which is primary directive for all of my bikes. 
Handles so well and yet comfy as a Cadillac.
Tom
 

On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:39:52 PM UTC-5 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get 
> ahold of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in 
> regards to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me 
> on the same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell, 
> though, their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks. 
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust 
>> fan. Thanks Derek!
>> Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I bought 
>> new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed the one 
>> from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to get the 
>> first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am at the 
>> bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I would 
>> be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it would 
>> work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and quick 
>> handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed 
>> Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in 
>> general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a 
>> tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer and 
>> more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem, 
>> Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar 
>> end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized 
>> body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are 
>> pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders 
>> are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well. 
>> Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but worth 
>> the utility. 
>> Tom Palmer
>> Twin Lake, MI 
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day and first ride

2022-11-25 Thread CC

Hey, Tom. Great looking bike! As a new member here that has yet to get
ahold of a Rivendell, I've been eyeing the Platypus. Where do you land in
regards to your height and PBH? I'm 6ft with a PBH of 87cm, which puts me
on the same frame size as what you got. Without every being on a Rivendell,
though, their larger frame sizes do give me a bit of pause. Thanks.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 3:52 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I picked a Mermaid Platypus frameset from a very nice local Riv/Crust fan.
> Thanks Derek!
> Spent a couple of weeks doing a parts bin build. The only things I bought
> new were 2 chains because Derek has a Clem Jr to build and needed the one
> from this frame and a tandem length derailler cable. Was able to get the
> first ride in today and had fit tweaked within a few miles. I am at the
> bottom of the fit guide for the big 60cm but Will at Riv confirmed I would
> be OK. I did get to do quick ride before I purchased so confident it would
> work well and it does. Very nice first ride, smooth, zippy, and quick
> handling. Already rethinking the tires- only 700x42 Continental speed
> Rides. Just thinking bigger since my roads are fairly rough chip seal in
> general, but want to keep fenders. I will do a second post on how large a
> tire with fenders. Looking forward to tomorrows ride, it will be longer and
> more hills. Build list is as follows- steel Albatross bars and steel stem,
> Ergon grips, Tektro V brake and Avid levers, and Microshift 10 speed bar
> end shifter shifting Deore derailler. Thompson seat post and Specialized
> body Geometry saddle from 90's. Alfine single ring crankset. Wheels are
> pretty nice, DT Swiss 240s hubs and not sure which DT Swiss rims. Fenders
> are Bontrager meant for 26" tires, but fit well.
> Planning on front rack that will tame the quick handling a bit, but worth
> the utility.
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay

Thanks!  I think the real deep philosophical question is: can I call it a 
tourer before it's been taken touring?  How long of a tour counts as 
touring?  From a pure 'naming' or 'categorization' perspective, there is 
such a thing as a touring bike.  That generally accepted "touring bike" is 
a touring bike even before it goes on a tour, even if it never goes on a 
tour.  So, for a bike that is not universally categorized as a touring 
bike; does it become a touring bike because it is taken touring?  

BL in EC
 
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:39:28 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread JohnS

Not a touring bike, nor a one day build, but a super cool fixed gear over 
on the Radavist. Riv content, the cut down Choco bars really contribute to 
the vintage look...

https://theradavist.com/readers-rides-todds-morlock-the-time-machine/

Enjoy!
John

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 1:39:28 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>>> 170 
>>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>>> floated 
>>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>>> before 
>>> good sealants. All this was achieved la

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread Ryan

Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
general

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>
> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>
> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
> "dozenspeed".  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
>> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
>> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
>> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
>> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>
>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>
>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>  
>>
>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>> student making me ask this.
>>
>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
>>> touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
>>> setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>>> see...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>>
>>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Will
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
 front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
 mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
 kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
> always 
> gonna look great!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
>> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
>> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>
>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>> rigid 
>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>> 170 
>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>> floated 
>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>> before 
>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO 
>> hub, 
>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>
>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
>> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A while

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread amillhench

“Dodecaspeed” has a nice ring to it. 

Aaron in El Paso 

On Jul 20, 2022, at 11:30, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds currently 
and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs so you 
can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any bike 
that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm talking 
about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the top level 
'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will soon be a 
singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a "dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love the 
> tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I have a 
> question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs 
> so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is hilly so a 
> true single-speed is probably not really practical
> 
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
> it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 
> 
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
> 
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
> 
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of "One 
>> Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing significantly 
>> more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- I did a VO 
>> Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New Singlespeed MTB Rear 
>> Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big Back Rack, naturally.  
>> Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can see...
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>> 
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me weeks 
>> to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>  
>> 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!
 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
> 
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 
> years before good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of 
> the ENO hub, as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I 
> had the other bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to 
> recall a total.
> 
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>> 
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listi

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread Bill Lindsay

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
"dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>  
>
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
>
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
>> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>> see...
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>   
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated 
> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
> before 
> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one o

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-20 Thread Ryan

Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical

The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 

SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
student making me ask this.

Ryan/Winnipeg MB

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:

> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
> see...
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>
> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Will
>   
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
>>> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
>>> look great!
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
 One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
 fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
 single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.

 As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
 the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
 top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
 fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
 converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
 Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
 mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
 floated 
 over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
 good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
 as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
 bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.

 I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
 using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.

 On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
> of 
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders 
> suggested 
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a 
> heavily 
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
> the other.  I did some calculatio

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-19 Thread Will M

Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
"One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
see...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

Cheers,
Will

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
>> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
>> look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
>>> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
>>> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
>>> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
>>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
>>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
>>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
>>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>>
>>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
>>> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
 frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
 commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
 of 
 the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  

 A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
 Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
 that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
 can for the minimum amount of money.  

 In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
 entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
 iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a 
 heavily 
 modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
 Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026

 It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
 chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
 the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
 long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
 which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
 on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
 ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  

 There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
 that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes 
 its 
 way onto a Roaduno.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Turner

I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
> look great!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
>> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
>> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>
>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
>> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>
>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
>> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>>
>>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>>
>>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>>
>>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>>
>>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-18 Thread Minh

hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
look great!

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>
>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>
>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>
>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore

That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One
Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad
era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my
single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.

As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for the
dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid top-end
Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg fork; no
one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I converted
with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big Apples.
Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 mm cranks
around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated over
sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before good
sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, as my
brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other bits
lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.

I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project
using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you
> can for the minimum amount of money.
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on
> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously
> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings,
> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel
> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears
> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.
>
> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but
> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its
> way onto a Roaduno.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-18 Thread Wally Estrella

Nice, Bill! 
the build looks great! I hope you enjoy the Ent as mush as I have mine! 


On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:01:40 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Very classy build! I love it.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-18 Thread brendonoid

Very classy build! I love it.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

Steven Sweedler said: "still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such 
limited gearing in my neck of the woods"

The build concept was a single speed tourer.  Whether or not you can 
imagine using it in a particularly steep hilly area is not part of the 
challenge.  Tour on it someplace where the gearing is sufficient :)  

My target is an overnight visit to UC Santa Cruz this September, where my 
daughter is a student.  By sleeping on her floor, I don't have to carry a 
tent.  By starting and finishing near civilization I don't have to carry 
much food, or a stove.  More like an S24O, I guess. 

The rear rack is the Nitto 27R, which has detachable lowriders, which are 
large and rectangular.  The Carradice panniers pictured on there are made 
for that large rectangular lowrider attachment.  You aren't supposed to 
hang a pannier on the "short lower rail" you see when the lowrider is not 
attached.  Detach the lowriders when you don't want to run panniers.  Bolt 
the lowriders on when you do want to run panniers.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Very nice Bill, still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such 
> limited gearing in my neck of the woods but if it works for you, enjoy. 
> What model is the rear rack, and any special attachments for the panniers 
> on such a short lower rail. Steve
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>
>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>
>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>
>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

2022-07-17 Thread Steven Sweedler

Very nice Bill, still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such
limited gearing in my neck of the woods but if it works for you, enjoy.
What model is the rear rack, and any special attachments for the panniers
on such a short lower rail. Steve

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you
> can for the minimum amount of money.
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on
> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously
> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings,
> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel
> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears
> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.
>
> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but
> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its
> way onto a Roaduno.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

2021-03-01 Thread Patrick Moore

That's a pretty red; rather "creamy" as if there were white mixed with it,
at least to my eyes and from the photo.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:18 AM Tom Palmer  wrote:

> Hi all,
> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it.
> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally
> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, but
> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm Pari
> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano
> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well.
> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at
> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a
> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano
> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer
> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5
> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the bends
> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative.
> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders
> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept
> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light
> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road
> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame they
> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous-
> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and it
> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>
> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and this
> may be the ride.
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Robert F. Harrison

Nice! Oh how I wish I could join you and see that bike! Next year. Sigh.

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> Cant talk now, I gotta go ride!
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread DarinM

I'll echo Justin's experience. No flats since putting Stan's in my tubes. I 
have used Schwalbe Thunder Burts Lightskin and Compass RTP's. This includes 
a ~280mi, mostly forest road camping trip a couple weeks ago. I will say 
that it has clogged a valve core which made pumping with an HP-X kind of a 
pain, but not impossible. I think it's worth it if all I have to replace is 
valve cores every two months or so.

I've only had one puncture (it sealed) where I could hear air escaping but 
maybe there have been other would be flats, too.

Darin

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> Since adding tubeless sealant to my tunes I have had zero flats. Off road, 
> rock gardens, on road, East Oakland streets, nothing. On a ride this 
> weekend someone’s rear tire went low and he just pumped it back up to 
> pressure and it held just fine. Very little hassle. A single anecdote does 
> not data make nor is the plural of anecdotes data. 
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Belopsky

I've bottomed out the tire when riding tubeless on my Chameleon on the 
trails and nothing popped as there was nothing to pop.
Tubeless is great.

I've yet to puncture the tire and have to seal ..

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Justin, Oakland

Since adding tubeless sealant to my tunes I have had zero flats. Off road, rock 
gardens, on road, East Oakland streets, nothing. On a ride this weekend 
someone’s rear tire went low and he just pumped it back up to pressure and it 
held just fine. Very little hassle. A single anecdote does not data make nor is 
the plural of anecdotes data. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Kainalu V.

Yes, for every "my garage is covered in latex!" story, there's a few happy 
stories that often go untold. That said, I wouldn't go tubeless with pizza 
cutter tires, but with your clearances that's not likely to be a consideration.
-Kai 
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread RichS

Congratulations! Pretty bike in a pretty setting. The red Thin Gripsters 
are a nice touch.

Best,
Richard

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>
> I disagree, my Crust has tubeless with Orange Seal. A few weeks ago the 
> rear generated the dreaded 'air escaping' sound for 5 seconds, then stopped 
> and on I went. I put a little more air in when I got home and that was it. 
> Tubeless rocks. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Joe Bernard

I disagree, my Crust has tubeless with Orange Seal. A few weeks ago the rear 
generated the dreaded 'air escaping' sound for 5 seconds, then stopped and on I 
went. I put a little more air in when I got home and that was it. Tubeless 
rocks. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Rusty, I was in much the same boat as you, so I tried Orange Sealant in my 
tubes (not going full boar tubeless) to get an idea of the effectiveness of the 
flat protection. I still flatted, and had a whole lotta mess to deal with. My 
conclusion for me is that the fussiness of sealant exceeds the fussiness of any 
benifit I experienced.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Wyland

Rusty, I found this video to be pretty informative regarding switching to 
tubeless.  
https://www.thefitrv.com/fitness-tips/were-going-tubeless-on-our-road-bikes-watch-the-whole-thing/

I still don't have any idea why a skinny-tired bike would be a tubeless 
candidate, though (talking about the Fit RV folks)

Tom (and not tubeless)


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> “Tubeless”, has just been one of those things buzzing around the outer 
> edges of the biking part of my brain.  I just don’t know enough about it, 
> to know if I’d like to try it.  One reason for that may be that I’ve always 
> run the nearly flat proof Schwalbe Marathons on the Hillborne.   I’ll have 
> to pay more attention to that buzzing… 
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-11 Thread Dale Click

“Tubeless”, has just been one of those things buzzing around the outer edges of 
the biking part of my brain.  I just don’t know enough about it, to know if I’d 
like to try it.  One reason for that may be that I’ve always run the nearly 
flat proof Schwalbe Marathons on the Hillborne.   I’ll have to pay more 
attention to that buzzing…

RustyC
Pgh,PA

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Kainalu V.  wrote:
> 
> Will gave you good advice, the cliffhangers are fantastic, so very tough. Are 
> you going/have you gone tubeless? I have some cliffhangers set up tubeless 
> with 60mm Schwalbe Big Ones (liteskin, not "tubeless easy" but mount readily 
> with the cliffhangers). Flats are over, and speed and comfort are phenomenal.
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-10 Thread Dave Grossman


>
> That sucker is awesome!


I want to get Cliffhangers for my next set of wheels for the Hunq.  I have 
Atlas rims now and while I like them the idea of going tubeless on the Hunq 
is appealing.  I have those Big Ones on my Jones and I love them! 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-10 Thread Kainalu V.

Will gave you good advice, the cliffhangers are fantastic, so very tough. Are 
you going/have you gone tubeless? I have some cliffhangers set up tubeless with 
60mm Schwalbe Big Ones (liteskin, not "tubeless easy" but mount readily with 
the cliffhangers). Flats are over, and speed and comfort are phenomenal.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-10 Thread Dale Click

Kai, those are Cliffhangers.  Will suggested them as opposed to the Atlas I was 
interested in.  I really like the look of those tall sidewalls too!

Rusty
Pgh, PA

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Kainalu V.  wrote:
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> Nice.
> Which rim is that? Those Velocity sidewalls are awesomely tall, you'll get a 
> lot of wear outta those.
> Enjoy
> -Kai 
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-10 Thread SeanMac

Wow!  Beautiful bike, Rusty.  Enjoy it!  I sure hope that your ride put a 
bike smile on your face!

Sean

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2018-07-10 Thread Patrick Moore

Lovely.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-03-18 Thread in Dallas nick

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster CrossMar 14

2018-03-16 Thread Bill Lindsay

True golden asked whether I cut the steer tube. 

I did cut the steer tube down. I removed about 75mm or roughly 3 inches. 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross Mar 14

2018-03-16 Thread in Dallas nick

I really like the build on your Black Mountain.




Nice job!




Did you cut the steerer tube on the fork or is that the original height of it?




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  "John G." : Mar 15 08:01PM -0700




Bill, your bikes are always well-appointed and seem to fit you 
perfectly. Thanks for sharing pics, details, and data. 

 

I know the intended use of the BMC is different than your Sam, but I’d love 
comparisons. I’m in between Sam sizes, and the BMC might be a better fit.


  

  

  Bill Lindsay : Mar 15 08:29PM -0700




A BMC Monster Cross with some Barlow Pass EL o light wheels would make 
a splendid road bike. Put some racks and fenders on it and now it’s a touring 
bike. It’s a very capable and very versatile bike. 

 

Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito Ca.


  

  

  kobe : Mar 16 03:34AM -0700




Thanks for posting pictures of your BMC. I have one in orange and the 
new 

green is so loud, obnoxious and awesome it makes we trade up. Great build, 

I had 50's on mine but they were a tad big for the riding I was doing and 

went back to the Rock N Roads.


  

  

  "Jonathan D." : Mar 16 06:52AM -0700




Thanks for the report. I have a 56 coming and I am excited to try it 
out.  It seems like such a versatile bike.


  

  
  
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  Nick Payne : Mar 16 03:41AM -0700




Same coverage from a slightly different angle here: 

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43308729.

 

As one of my fellow retiree cyclists said on reading it: "One bloke reckons 

he has the body fat of a 19 year-old. I can beat that - I have the body fat 

of four 19 year-olds."


  

  

  Ron Mc : Mar 16 06:46AM -0700




I'm happy to state my at-rest pulse is 42, and my BP the same as when I 
was 

19

 

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  Dan Bracey : Mar 15 11:31AM -0700




Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK

 

I'm going to regret this, but for sale is a Waterford built 2006 A. Homer 

Hilsen that I have owned it since 2010. When I bought the bike, I thought 

I'd own it for the rest of my life, but it turns out that it just doesn't 

fit the type of riding I'm doing as well as I thought it would. It is one 

of the more beautiful frames I've ever put my eyes on and when I purchased 

it I painstakingly cleaned the frame and carefully touched up all the chips 

with matching enamel paint (first sign that I'm not a true "Riv guy"). 

 

The paint is darker blue than the current Homer and anyone that is paying 

attention knows that the AHH has gone through a lot of hues of blue over 

the years. I was also missing the brifter index shifting from my sportier 

road bike, so Homer's bar end shifters got swapped for a full Shimano 

Ultegra 6500 triple groupset (second sign that I'm not a true Riv believer) 

which I believe to be the last classically beautiful group that Shimano 

produced. I don't need to go into how great these frames are and how well 

they handle, or how beautiful they are, but I will say that the size 59 

frame was on the verge of being too big for my 5'11" frame, but it was 

still comfortable for a couple of 100 mile plus rides that I did on it. The 

larger than normal sizing and the low seat post was one Grantism that I do 

believe in for this bike which made it extremely comfortable for long rides.

 

Further details on the build are a full Nitto cockpit & seatpost including 

46cm Noodle handlebars wrapped with brooks honey leather tape that could 

use some moisturizing but still has plenty of life. A set of classic 

Ri

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-03-15 Thread Bill Lindsay

Aha, by ‘brake placement’ , John W meant ‘shift lever placement’. 

I placed them as wide as the 31.8mm section of the Salsa Cowchipper bars would 
allow. I chose the Salsa Cowchipper bars because the 31.8mm sleeve is quite 
wide. I decided against normal bar-con placement because they are flared drops 
and didn’t want them sticking out. 

If I find that I want to do a lot of mountain biking, I might want to switch to 
a clutch rear der to mitigate chain slap. If I do that, I may switch to a SRAM 
10-sp Brifter on the right hand side. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-03-15 Thread John Woo

Haha. You got me. Should not hit reply before caffeinating.

What I meant to say was, I love the placement of the thumbies!

> On Mar 15, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> John W asked how I arrived at brake placement. 
> 
> I installed the cantilever brakes DIRECTLY onto the cantilever brake posts. 
> 😝. Maybe you meant something else?  Brake lever placement was an educated 
> guess based on the assumption that 100% of off road downhill braking will be 
> done from the drops. 
> 
> As others noted, when CX70s went out of production I took note. I stocked up 
> with three sets. Now two of the three sets are on bikes and I’m getting a 
> little antsy about that. 
> 
> Rivendell might become one of the last bastions of rim brakes. Great 
> drivetrain parts are plentiful, but brakelevers rims and brakes are getting 
> scarce. Winter is coming...
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca. 
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-03-15 Thread Eric Daume

I think I'm pretty good at putting a bike together, but Bill's builds put
mine to shame.

Eric
fellow BMC MC owner

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

>
> It's a stretch for Riv-content here, but I promise there is some.  The
> obvious Riv content is limited to hemp twine, Newbaums bar tape, components
> from White Industries and Paul, who are Riv vendors.  I bought the CX70
> front derailer and brakes from Riv.  The whole idea of a Monster Cross, or
> more correctly a drop bar mountain bike, definitely have Rivendell's
> fingerprints on it.  Anyway, here it is.
>
> 58cm Black Mountain Monster Cross
> Cane Creek 40 headset
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims, Dura Ace hubs, Ultegra Skewers 10sp 12-30
> Ultegra cassette.
> WTB Bronson 29x2.0 tires with tubes
> White Industries VBC 172.5mm cranks 42/26 rings
> Shimano SPD pedals
> CX70 front der
> Ultegra rear der
> Shimano 10sp barcons on Paul Thumbies
> Paul Boxcar stem, modified cable stop
> Salsa Cowchipper bars
> SRAM S500 brakelevers
> Shimano CX70 brakes
> Niner Carbon seatpost
> Avocet O2 saddle
> Khaki Newbaums tape with amber shellac
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-10-01 Thread Bill Lindsay




Rosco Bubbe is down in the books as bike #7 in my 200 miles on 10 bikes 
challenge.  The Medium Mountain Step Thru went out with a bang, on a 
classic Riv-content ride.  Out my front door, to the top of Mount Diablo 
and back to my front door.  




78 miles and 6700 feet of climbing on a practically perfect day in the Bay 
Area.  We're looking West from the summit and that bump on the horizon is 
Mount Tam.  The bike did spectacularly well.  I've continued to dial in 
this bike, now with a Black Brooks B17 and a Mountain Campee front rack 
with detachable lowriders.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:22:15 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I had several small projects on the workstand this week.  I laced up a 
> couple new wheels, and did several tire swaps on a few of my bikes.  The 
> result of the tire swaps left me with a pair of Compass Babyshoe Pass 
> Extralights that could go in the tire box, or could go on another bike.  
> So, I decided to deck out my Medium Step-Thru as a stripped down road 
> racing machine.  
>
> Racy Rosco Step Thru 
> 
>
> I'm thinking that with some black aluminum fenders and the right front 
> rack, we'll be totally Rando-Ready.  
>
> On my 10x200 challenge, I've been doing shorter rides including all-out 
> effort intervals.  I'm tracking my progress/fitness by shooting for 
> Personal Records on all my frequent East Bay Climbs.  Today, I went all-out 
> for a PR on the climb up Wildcat Canyon.  I felt very good about it, only 
> to find I accidentally hit the "stop" button on Strava and failed to record 
> any of my 35 mile jaunt.  We'll never know whether I did a PR or not.  Did 
> it really happen?  Is Strava equivalent to Pictures?  
>
> As it stands, I'm still at 6 bikes.  I should be able to finish up 200 
> miles on both my Mountain bike as well as the step-thru this week.  That 
> will leave my double-speed Gunnar and my Rosco Road bike as bike number 9 
> and 10.  I'm about ready to concede that there is no way I'm getting 200 
> miles in on my tandem.  There is just not enough willing stokerage going on 
> in my immediate vicinity. I'm OK with that.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-29 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks for posting the graphic, Philip. You did a nice job. I remember 
running across that catalog page years ago, and tried with no success to 
find it during the most recent mixte discussion. I am of the opinion that 
mixte in this sense  does not mean co-ed, but "dual" or "mixed" as in the 
twin top tubes and/or the dual seat stays. Because otherwise why wouldn't 
all the other styles be co-ed as well?  But I am decidedly a derailleur guy.

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 11:36:52 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson 
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>
> I'm pretty lax with the mixte ("co-ed") designation personally, but you 
> may have seen this graphic on my site. It is my production artwork, copied 
> from a picture of a catalog page. 
> http://www.biketinker.com/2014/bike-art/types-of-step-through-frames/
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
> Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-28 Thread Philip Williamson

I'm pretty lax with the mixte ("co-ed") designation personally, but you may 
have seen this graphic on my site. It is my production artwork, copied from a 
picture of a catalog page. 
http://www.biketinker.com/2014/bike-art/types-of-step-through-frames/

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www.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-27 Thread Bill Lindsay

I had several small projects on the workstand this week.  I laced up a 
couple new wheels, and did several tire swaps on a few of my bikes.  The 
result of the tire swaps left me with a pair of Compass Babyshoe Pass 
Extralights that could go in the tire box, or could go on another bike.  
So, I decided to deck out my Medium Step-Thru as a stripped down road 
racing machine.  

Racy Rosco Step Thru 


I'm thinking that with some black aluminum fenders and the right front 
rack, we'll be totally Rando-Ready.  

On my 10x200 challenge, I've been doing shorter rides including all-out 
effort intervals.  I'm tracking my progress/fitness by shooting for 
Personal Records on all my frequent East Bay Climbs.  Today, I went all-out 
for a PR on the climb up Wildcat Canyon.  I felt very good about it, only 
to find I accidentally hit the "stop" button on Strava and failed to record 
any of my 35 mile jaunt.  We'll never know whether I did a PR or not.  Did 
it really happen?  Is Strava equivalent to Pictures?  

As it stands, I'm still at 6 bikes.  I should be able to finish up 200 
miles on both my Mountain bike as well as the step-thru this week.  That 
will leave my double-speed Gunnar and my Rosco Road bike as bike number 9 
and 10.  I'm about ready to concede that there is no way I'm getting 200 
miles in on my tandem.  There is just not enough willing stokerage going on 
in my immediate vicinity. I'm OK with that.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 


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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-05 Thread Chris Birkenmaier

I was convinced that I was going to have the bike repainted. I decided to not 
do so. Mainly due to the fact that I have a Roadini coming next that I am 
definitely going to have repainted. Decided to not put the extra money into the 
mixte.  Not sure I really like the color but I will live with it at this point

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-05 Thread masmojo

Harsh directional light doesn't flatter that color much, bit in foggy 
conditions out in the wild it looks great.
I think this might be a concept/category that Rivendell could exploit with good 
success  in the near future! At least until it gets copied. This looks kinda 
like what I was hoping my Clementine would be.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-04 Thread Joe Bernard

Haibike makes hi-step and low-step versions of their ebikes, which correlate 
well to the H and L designations Riv uses for the Clem. This seems a much 
simpler descriptor than trying to explain when a step-through is not a mixte 
and vice-versa.

Btw, the BLUG announced that RBW would be closed for a bit for "the 
occultation". Nice work, Bill!

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-04 Thread Bill Lindsay

Mark explained he was not referring to the name Medium Mountain Mixte that I 
used in the subject line of this thread, but was referring to Rivendell's 
referential use of the term Mixte when describing a non-Mixte design

I think I understand better now.  Thanks. Why would somebody who knows better 
deliberately use the wrong term to describe something?  Is it marketing?  Is it 
sloppiness?  Did they forget?  

If I had to guess I would say it was just convenient communication. Last month 
the path of the moon was just right that observers on earth could see it block 
out the sun. Almost everybody referred to that event as an eclipse, even though 
everyone who knows better knew full well that it was not an eclipse but an 
occultation. When you said "the eclipse" people knew what you were talking 
about, and little harm was done by using the incorrect term. 

These eclipse/occultation/Mixte minutiae are fresh in my mind because last 
month Grant used the term 'eclipse' in a post and I called him on it, just for 
fun. When I went to pick up my frame, Grant called me on using the name Medium 
Mountain Mixte, also just for fun. That's the irony, that we're speculating why 
Grant would use the wrong term when it was Grant correcting me for using the 
wrong term. 

Part of language is just trying to convey an idea efficiently. The speaker is 
guessing at what words to use to get the job done. I've used the term 
'step-through' for decades working at bike shops and usually when speaking and 
with the bike present I still use the term step-through along with a little 
pantomime motion towards the dropped top tube.  

If Rivendell sometimes used the term Mixte to describe a non Mixte design, I 
trust it was just to briefly point out that the thing had that step through 
feature.  A Facebook post, a BLUG post is an environment where writers might 
get a little loose with descriptive terms. When it comes to actual NAMING of 
objects, like frame decals or a product brochure I think it's right to expect 
more precision. 

Happy Labor Day 
Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Joe Bernard

Conversely, the Clem L has a more elegant, "dutch bike" look IMO. Which is a 
pleasant surprise for me: I've always liked Rivs and always liked step-through 
omafiets..I never thought I'd see the two converge. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks, Jeremy, that answers my question. I suspected it probably had a 
shorter tt since it was not designed specifically for the Bosco bar. I 
think the look of the Rosco M is a bit more rugged/masculine than the Clem 
L. 

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 10:40:08 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 6:15:20 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Which brings me to another question: What are the effective 
>> geometry/other design differences between the MMMs and the Clem Ls (other 
>> than the lift a tube, which the Clem L already naturally possesses)? 
>> Shorter virtual top tube, so that drops can be used?
>>
>
> I was interested in this frame, and spoke with Roman on the phone about it 
> briefly the other day. Versus my 52cm Clem (H, but I think the L has 
> similar or identical geometry), the R05C0 8U883 
> not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever has a slightly shorter top tube (59 vs 
> 61cm), somewhat shorter chainstays (don't remember the exact number), the 
> Appaloosa fork instead of the Clem fork (so, slightly narrower max tire 
> size), and no lugs except the fork crown. And, of course, it's  a 
> not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever like the Cheviot, and not a full 
> step-through like the Clem L. I wonder if the lifter tube adds enough 
> stiffness down by the bottom bracket.
>
> I found on my Clem H 52cm that I wasn't really comfortable with a dirt 
> drop stem and handlebar, but it was a fairly close thing. It's possible 
> that the R05C0 8U883 with dirt drop would work for me. But I'm pretty 
> long-torsoed. Your mileage may vary. In the end, I decided I'm content with 
> my Clem H for the purposes to which I put it, so I think I'm going to pass 
> on getting in on the next batch of these - not different enough, though 
> it's a very interesting frame and I look forward to seeing more of them 
> built up. 
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

I was not particularly trying to make a point, just making light 
conversation/speculation. Sorry that apparently did not come across. Yes, I 
too know what the Rosco project is about. And I'm not offended by the term 
mixte being used. That would be silly. Nor did I think or imply that you or 
the folks at Rivendell don't know what constitutes a mixte. That would be 
silly, too. Rivendell/Grant has certainly referred to the Roscos with the 
dropped top tube as mixtes a number of times. Here's one instance:

https://www.facebook.com/rivbike/photos/a.158025017587688.34098.153481058042084/1332249110165267/?type=3


On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 9:58:40 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I don't follow what point you are making. Rivendell hasn't adopted any 
> particular nomenclature besides two. Rosco Bubbe and R05C0 8U883. They know 
> what a Mixte is and know how bugged people get over the naming. 
>
> I refer to it as Medium Mountain Mixte just because of alliteration and to 
> tell my two Bubbes apart.  I know this is not a mixte and apologize to any 
> offended parties that I got loose with terms just to make an MMM. 
>
> As far as differences from the Clem L the biggest difference is the Clem L 
> is an actual Rivendell model.  This bike is not.  This was a tiny batch of 
> frames to fit leftover forks.  It was also an opportunity for Roman to get 
> his feet wet with frame design.  
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Tony DeFilippo

Bill that is a sweet build! Love all the touches and getting to see it in it's 
element.  Definitely a bike with attitude.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Carla Waugh

Congrats Bill on your new bike and many happy miles/trails!

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Bill Lindsay

Paul asked for shots of my new bike out on the trails.  Friday and Saturday 
were record-breakingly hot in the Bay Area, and I had family stuff going 
on, so I treated myself to two (TWO!) consecutive days off the bike.  Today 
will be warm, but nothing like the last two days, so I got out at dawn for 
my standard short trail loop through Wildcat Canyon:  Here's a couple shots 
of what trail riding is like for me:

This is Quarry Trail in Tilden Park.  It's stuff that you can definitely do 
with no shocks and drop bars, but it's no joke either.  On the dirt road 
surrounding Little Farm in Tilden there was a massive downed eucalyptus 
blocking the road

I was able to hike a bike around it.  My ride report is: holy $#!+ this is 
a super 27.5" mountain bike.  Step-through?  More like STOMP-through.  I'm 
blown away at what a nice riding mountain machine this is.  I thought it 
was going to be good for me looking at the numbers and such, but I'm truly 
blown away.  I picture a young Jacquie Phelan or John Tomac, or some other 
full-rigid-drop-bar mountain bike wizard absolutely shredding it with this 
bike.  I've been riding my ~$3500 carbon Niner a lot this month, and on my 
very first ride, I did the steep and technical Meadows Canyon climb only 20 
seconds off my personal best, on a bike that it probably 8 pounds heavier.  
In deference to the term-monitors, I've made up a new name for it.  I'm 
calling it "Trusty M.U.S.T.y"  Trusty Musty is a Mountain Utility Step 
Through.  

Rivendell wouldn't do something I told them to do unless they already 
thought it was a good idea, but I think they'd be smart to figure out a way 
to offer step through mountain bikes like this one.  It's a hoot.  I'm 
already thinking about how easy it will be to get on the bike when I have 
it loaded with front and rear panniers.  Step right through and giggle 
away!  As a late-entry into my stable, I was wondering if this was going to 
be a fit or more of a lark, but I think Trusty Musty is going to 
"mooove...right in"

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 9:39:47 AM UTC-7, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> That is a very cool bike, Bill. Very very cool.
> I'm having trouble not cussing about how cool it is.
>
> I can't wait to see photos of it out on the trails.
>
> Paul in ATL
>
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Jeremy Tavan

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 6:15:20 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Which brings me to another question: What are the effective geometry/other 
> design differences between the MMMs and the Clem Ls (other than the lift a 
> tube, which the Clem L already naturally possesses)? Shorter virtual top 
> tube, so that drops can be used?
>

I was interested in this frame, and spoke with Roman on the phone about it 
briefly the other day. Versus my 52cm Clem (H, but I think the L has 
similar or identical geometry), the R05C0 8U883 
not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever has a slightly shorter top tube (59 vs 
61cm), somewhat shorter chainstays (don't remember the exact number), the 
Appaloosa fork instead of the Clem fork (so, slightly narrower max tire 
size), and no lugs except the fork crown. And, of course, it's  a 
not-exactly-a-mixte-but-whatever like the Cheviot, and not a full 
step-through like the Clem L. I wonder if the lifter tube adds enough 
stiffness down by the bottom bracket.

I found on my Clem H 52cm that I wasn't really comfortable with a dirt drop 
stem and handlebar, but it was a fairly close thing. It's possible that the 
R05C0 8U883 with dirt drop would work for me. But I'm pretty long-torsoed. 
Your mileage may vary. In the end, I decided I'm content with my Clem H for 
the purposes to which I put it, so I think I'm going to pass on getting in 
on the next batch of these - not different enough, though it's a very 
interesting frame and I look forward to seeing more of them built up. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread Bill Lindsay

I don't follow what point you are making. Rivendell hasn't adopted any 
particular nomenclature besides two. Rosco Bubbe and R05C0 8U883. They know 
what a Mixte is and know how bugged people get over the naming. 

I refer to it as Medium Mountain Mixte just because of alliteration and to tell 
my two Bubbes apart.  I know this is not a mixte and apologize to any offended 
parties that I got loose with terms just to make an MMM. 

As far as differences from the Clem L the biggest difference is the Clem L is 
an actual Rivendell model.  This bike is not.  This was a tiny batch of frames 
to fit leftover forks.  It was also an opportunity for Roman to get his feet 
wet with frame design.  

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

This Rosco design is my favorite. But as you mention here, it is most 
definitely not a mixte. I suppose I am being picky, but curious as to why 
Rivendell chose this nomenclature for a bicycle design that does not have 
the extra set of seat stays, and is most definitely not a mixte frame. Why 
not call it the Mountain Roscolo, a la the Clem L and H designations? I 
know for pc reasons they couldn't choose, say Roscette, or Roscolina, since 
they received so much flak for Clementine. And the mixte designation makes 
it more appealing to the boys, who I suspect still shy away from the curved 
step-through design of the Clem Ls. Which brings me to another question: 
What are the effective geometry/other design differences between the MMMs 
and the Clem Ls (other than the lift a tube, which the Clem L already 
naturally possesses)? Shorter virtual top tube, so that drops can be used?

I once ran across a site that listed the (surprisingly numerous) various 
frame designs designated "ladies" over the years, with specific names for 
each of them. I think this Raleigh 3-speed style with the dropped top tube 
was called ladies sport or sport step over or something like that.

** I know that the popular translation of mixte is "unisex" in the bicycle 
application, but I don't see how this would be relevant back when the 
designation was originally made. I would go with the framebuilders of yore 
having meant mixte in the sense of "dual", as in two top tubes/seat stays. 
Of course, to fully complete the Riv logic, if you go with "mixte" as 
"unisex" and you use the Sheldon version of derailleur, you would call this 
a Mountain Unisex. But then you lose the alliteration, and unisex is not as 
sexy as mixte, despite [or because of] having sex in it already.

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 10:35:04 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Over the years, whenever I look at a step through of this kind I imagine 
> load wanting to fold the seat tube in half. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-02 Thread Bill Lindsay

Thanks all. 

This bike features the new Silver tapered seat tube.  It flares to 31.8mm about 
halfway down. Those of you who are assembling a build kit for your LBS to build 
might get caught off guard by that detail.  The CX70 front derailleur Is a 
31.8mm clamp with optional spacers so I was covered.  

Over the years, whenever I look at a step through of this kind I imagine load 
wanting to fold the seat tube in half. This bike has an oversized lower seat 
tube and the liftatube anchoring the seat tube to the downtube.  It puts me 
more at ease. I think it will be plenty stout for anything I might use it for.  

My weekends are completely packed with activities so I won't be able to take it 
on the trails for a couple days

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Chris Birkenmaier

Nicely done as always Bill!

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Philip Kim

awesome build!

On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 12:26:29 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is ever 
> "final", of course, but here we are.  
>
>
>
> 
> Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of seat 
> lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
>
> Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
> bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with HALO 
> retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.  
>
> Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 chainrings.  
> Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 1071 chains (2).  
> Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp cassette.  SPD pedals
>
> Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
> stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
> hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.  
>
> Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
> King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + two 
> coats of clear Bullseye shellac.  
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
> block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Justin August

These bikes are so awesome. That is perfect.

Arg! I want.

-J

On Sep 1, 2017, 10:00 AM -0700, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> I have in reserve a sapphire blue Flite saddle from ~1997, and I thought 
> about running that to tie in with the Shopsack.  With a Flite saddle on it, I 
> imagine I could get an even higher PMAQ (Patrick Moore Approval Quotient).  
> If this Niner generic saddle isn't perfect, then I'll switch to the Flite or 
> a Black B-17 that is also on-hand.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 9:55:05 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> > Thanks you. I could ride one of those!
> >
> > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is 
> > > > ever "final", of course, but here we are.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of 
> > > > seat lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
> > > >
> > > > Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
> > > > bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with 
> > > > HALO retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.
> > > >
> > > > Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 
> > > > chainrings.  Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 
> > > > 1071 chains (2).  Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp 
> > > > cassette.  SPD pedals
> > > >
> > > > Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
> > > > stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
> > > > hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.
> > > >
> > > > Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
> > > > King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + 
> > > > two coats of clear Bullseye shellac.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
> > > > block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Lindsay
> > > > El Cerrito, CA
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> > > > > Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
> > > > >
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Bill Lindsay

I have in reserve a sapphire blue Flite saddle from ~1997, and I thought 
about running that to tie in with the Shopsack.  With a Flite saddle on it, 
I imagine I could get an even higher PMAQ (Patrick Moore Approval 
Quotient).  If this Niner generic saddle isn't perfect, then I'll switch to 
the Flite or a Black B-17 that is also on-hand.  

BL in EC  

On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 9:55:05 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks you. I could ride one of those!
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is 
>> ever "final", of course, but here we are.  
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of seat 
>> lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
>>
>> Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
>> bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with HALO 
>> retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.  
>>
>> Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 chainrings.  
>> Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 1071 chains (2).  
>> Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp cassette.  SPD pedals
>>
>> Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
>> stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
>> hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.  
>>
>> Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
>> King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + two 
>> coats of clear Bullseye shellac.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
>> block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Patrick Moore

Thanks you. I could ride one of those!

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

>
> Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is ever
> "final", of course, but here we are.
>
>
>
> 
> Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of seat
> lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
>
> Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to
> bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with HALO
> retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.
>
> Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 chainrings.
> Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 1071 chains (2).
> Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp cassette.  SPD pedals
>
> Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged
> stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear
> hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.
>
> Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two
> King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + two
> coats of clear Bullseye shellac.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the
> block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Paul Clifton

That is a very cool bike, Bill. Very very cool.
I'm having trouble not cussing about how cool it is.

I can't wait to see photos of it out on the trails.

Paul in ATL

On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 12:26:29 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is ever 
> "final", of course, but here we are.  
>
>
>
> 
> Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of seat 
> lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.
>
> Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
> bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with HALO 
> retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.  
>
> Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 chainrings.  
> Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 1071 chains (2).  
> Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp cassette.  SPD pedals
>
> Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
> stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
> hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.  
>
> Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
> King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + two 
> coats of clear Bullseye shellac.  
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
> block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-09-01 Thread Bill Lindsay

Patrick Moore very politely requested final build photos.  Nothing is ever 
"final", of course, but here we are.  

Frameset: Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte.  54cm center to top of seat 
lug. 59.2cm effective top tube.  Appaloosa 650B fork.  IRD headset.

Wheelset:  Shimano Deore XT Parallax M-737 hubs, 32 hole, converted to 
bolt-on Cro-mo axles.  Velocity Synergy rims, custom powdercoated with HALO 
retroreflective coating.  Duro Miner 52mm tires.  Tubes.  

Drivetrain:  XTR M985 crankset and BB.  172.5mm arms.  44/30 chainrings.  
Shimano CX70 front der.  Deore XT M786 rear der.  SRAM 1071 chains (2).  
Microshift 10sp index barcons.  11-36 Deore 10sp cassette.  SPD pedals

Components:  Tektro CR720 brakes.  SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Nitto lugged 
stem and 46cm Noodle bars.  Kalloy seatpost.  Niner saddle.  Nitto rear 
hanger.  Tektro crown-mount front hanger.  Reflective brake housing.  

Accessories:  Simworks front rack, Wald basket, Sapphire Shopsack.  Two 
King Cages (one Iris).  Lots of Newbaums (orange, grey, and celeste)  + two 
coats of clear Bullseye shellac.  

When the second coat of shellac dries I'll get to ride it around the 
block.  It turned out exactly like I planned, which is nice.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 6:48:00 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

2017-08-31 Thread Patrick Moore

Nice setup so far. Be sure to post final build photos (please).

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

>
>
> 
>
>
> I picked up my Rosco Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte frameset today and threw
> it right on the stand.
>
> 1.  grind off the lawyer lips
> 2.  wrap the lift-a-tube
> 3.  install the wheels, saddle and cockpit for an initial mock-up (photo
> above)
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> Then I hung the drivetrain on there.  It's going to be a 2x10 contemporary
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Re: [RBW] NEW BIKE DAY!

2016-12-17 Thread Kellie

Thanks Patrick. Unfortunately rode around the block a little yesterday 
after completing the build. But I'll be posting photos of my rides and give 
a thorough report.

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> Congratulations. How does it ride?
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Re: [RBW] NEW BIKE DAY!

2016-12-17 Thread Patrick Moore

Congratulations. How does it ride?

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Re: [RBW] New bike day! R05C0 8U883

2016-12-16 Thread Ashwath Akirekadu

What a color!

Rosco Road qualifies as one of the next 3 bikes I need to have.


On Friday, December 16, 2016, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Haha.  That's a good thing!  My stable is in a state of flux.  Very
> recently I've sold 4 bikes, and a 5th is being relocated.  That's enabled
> me to fire off a few new ones.
>
> Doing builds is one of the very best things I do.  If I was forced to
> either give up riding or give up doing builds I would probably give up
> riding.  Fortunately, nobody is forcing me to give up either one.
>
> Bill Lindsay
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> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 10:18:39 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote:
>>
>> Every time I come on here, you're getting a new bike Bill! :-P
>>
>> KJ
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Hunqapillar FINALLY!

2016-06-27 Thread René Sterental

Congratulations! The truth will cover out on your next commute! ;-)

On Monday, June 27, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Between new bike adrenaline, Compass tires, and greater comfort through
> frame geometry and bike smarts (thus a happier, better performing engine),
> I'm not at all surprised you smoked it! Well done!
>
> With abandon,
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> On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 7:42:50 AM UTC-6, Philip Kim wrote:
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>> Picked up my Hunq from Gravel & Grind (helped me put together the build)
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>> pictures before my morning commute from DC into Arlington.
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Hunqapillar FINALLY!

2016-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore

Nice rig! Lucky you.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> Picked up my Hunq from Gravel & Grind (helped me put together the build)
> on Saturday and finally got around to riding it this morning. Here are some
> pictures before my morning commute from DC into Arlington.
>
> This is a 48cm Hunqapillar, with mostly 10 speed XT parts except the SLX
> rear derailleur, and White Industries crankset. Also Pauls canti's and
> levers, Brooks Swift, and Nitto Seatpost.
>
> Of unusual to note, I fitted this out with a Jones loop bar. I had
> Clockwork Bikes make me a custom 31.8 quill stem. It's bare steel right
> now, but I'll probably nickel plate it somewhere down the road. Wheels are
> Compass Rat Traps set up tubeless on Atlas rims. Using the Riv's silver hub
> rear, and the Shutter precision hub front. Built up by Gravel & Grind.
>
> Got the Carradice bag from Gravel & Grind, fits all my work clothes, work
> laptop, lunch, with room to spare. Strapped to my handlebar method - via
> Ultraromance-style, and also seen on Mark Reimer's Atlantis. I really like
> this set up, allows more cargo than a basket, and things don't fly around.
>
> Can't recommend the guys at Gravel & Grind enough. Very chill, very
> flexible, and very rad.
>
> This bike rides soo awesome! I can really push it, but it's very
> comfortable and stable. I was also surprised how light it feels considering
> it's a stout frame. So stoked for many many years on this thing!
>
> Thanks to all those I've privately messaged and all those who answered my
> questions and all that. It really helped a lot.
>
>
>
> 
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>
> I've been thinking of getting a Hunq for awhile now back when it was the
> awesome grey and red color, so I got it colored in the old grey, but cream
> accents to match the new Hunqapillar decals.
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Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy

Sure thing Patrick. At the moment I've finally managed to patch a hole in
one of the tires and have just gotten the air to stay inside. Current plan
is to test them over the next week and a half and then ride them on the
West Point Inn Riv Ramble if they hold up. Once I get home from that I
should have enough miles on them to form at least an initial opinion. I'll
try to remember to write up some impressions.



Best,
Reed

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> I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of the improvement in
> ride between tubed and tubeless. In my very limited experience with 1.35 mm
> Kojaks, going from tubed to tubeless (light but otherwise standard butyl
> tubes) is almost like swapping said Kojaks with tubes for Compass Elk Pass
> extra lights with tubes.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun
>> in traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but
>> when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and
>> quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft.
>>
>> Just converted them to tubeless last night, thanks everyone here on the
>> list for advice. We'll see how that works today!
>>
>>
>> Reed
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from
>>> 700x38c to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:


 


 
 I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!
 The main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so
 stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some
 from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the
 LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going
 to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled
 to have one!

 Parts list:
 Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
 Sugino x White Industries cranks
 VP Vice pedals
 Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
 Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
 Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars

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Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore

I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of the improvement in ride
between tubed and tubeless. In my very limited experience with 1.35 mm
Kojaks, going from tubed to tubeless (light but otherwise standard butyl
tubes) is almost like swapping said Kojaks with tubes for Compass Elk Pass
extra lights with tubes.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun in
> traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but
> when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and
> quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft.
>
> Just converted them to tubeless last night, thanks everyone here on the
> list for advice. We'll see how that works today!
>
>
> Reed
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>
>> Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from 700x38c
>> to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.
>>
>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!
>>> The main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so
>>> stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some
>>> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the
>>> LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going
>>> to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled
>>> to have one!
>>>
>>> Parts list:
>>> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
>>> Sugino x White Industries cranks
>>> VP Vice pedals
>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
>>> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
>>> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars
>>>
>>> m
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Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy

Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun in
traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but
when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and
quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft.

Just converted them to tubeless last night, thanks everyone here on the
list for advice. We'll see how that works today!


Reed

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from 700x38c
> to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!  The
>> main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so
>> stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some
>> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the
>> LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going
>> to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled
>> to have one!
>>
>> Parts list:
>> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
>> Sugino x White Industries cranks
>> VP Vice pedals
>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
>> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
>> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars
>>
>> m
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day

2016-03-23 Thread cyclotourist

Always the best of days!

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:36 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> Wow. That blue is really growing on me. A bit retro but very fresh
> nonetheless.  I was initially partial to the mustard. Enjoy. Do the cream
> longboards work with your tires? Otherwise, you might consider spray
> painting to match the cream highlights. I've had good success painting
> aluminum fenders this way.
>
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 6:18:27 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Love the blue! Matches your bathroom iin the pics too!
>> What a nice looking bike.
>> I have noticed these bikes look better in home pics vs. the RBW pics. Nice
>> frame details.
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day

2016-03-23 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch

Wow. That blue is really growing on me. A bit retro but very fresh 
nonetheless.  I was initially partial to the mustard. Enjoy. Do the cream 
longboards work with your tires? Otherwise, you might consider spray 
painting to match the cream highlights. I've had good success painting 
aluminum fenders this way. 

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 6:18:27 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Love the blue! Matches your bathroom iin the pics too!
> What a nice looking bike.
> I have noticed these bikes look better in home pics vs. the RBW pics. Nice 
> frame details.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day

2016-03-23 Thread Lungimsam

Love the blue! Matches your bathroom iin the pics too!
What a nice looking bike.
I have noticed these bikes look better in home pics vs. the RBW pics. Nice 
frame details.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day

2016-03-23 Thread Patrick Kelly

nice!

(but i'm biased)

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Brian Hanson  wrote:
> Received the amazing Appaloosa today!  My wife loved it on first ride, and
> the packing and condition was flawless as usual.  Some pics after I
> re-assembled.  More to come as we get it be-fendered and be-lighted.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskwbFNCA
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2016-03-14 Thread Hugh Smitham

Oh for sure. Take a look over at SCAR its happening.
On Mar 14, 2016 8:41 PM, "dougP"  wrote:

> "Now I hope I don't regret selling it.
>
> ~Hugh"
>
>
> I assume you negotiated visitation rights?
>
>
> doug
>
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:01:27 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> You guy's are the best!
>>
>> I sent an invite to our SoCal All Rounder group and sent him a link to
>> the RBW OWNER'S BUNCH with the caveat that his initial posts will be
>> moderated. I hope he follows through.
>>
>> I just spoke with him and he's into an April s24o.
>>
>> Erl, I always appreciate your dear kindness.
>>
>> David, you nailed it!
>>
>> Jon, truly!
>>
>> Jeff, love your humor.
>>
>> Ryan, Thanks it is and was a bit difficult to let go.
>>
>> Curtis, exactly.
>>
>> Doug,  haha a little prodding my friend. Keeping my cards close to my
>> vest. But I reckon you know what I've got brewing :)
>>
>> Estaban,  Well stated and spot on.
>>
>> Chris, we'll see. I hope so. You can lead a horse to water but you can't
>> make him drink the water err or koolaid as the case is :)
>>
>> Now I hope I don't regret selling it.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>> On Mar 14, 2016 7:30 PM, "Pondero"  wrote:
>>
>>> Perfect.  I hope he engages here so we can continue to keep up with the
>>> further adventures of Willy.
>>>
>>> Chris Johnson
>>> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2016-03-14 Thread dougP



"Now I hope I don't regret selling it.

~Hugh"


I assume you negotiated visitation rights?  


doug


On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 8:01:27 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> You guy's are the best!
>
> I sent an invite to our SoCal All Rounder group and sent him a link to the 
> RBW OWNER'S BUNCH with the caveat that his initial posts will be moderated. 
> I hope he follows through.
>
> I just spoke with him and he's into an April s24o.
>
> Erl, I always appreciate your dear kindness.
>
> David, you nailed it!
>
> Jon, truly!
>
> Jeff, love your humor.
>
> Ryan, Thanks it is and was a bit difficult to let go.
>
> Curtis, exactly.
>
> Doug,  haha a little prodding my friend. Keeping my cards close to my 
> vest. But I reckon you know what I've got brewing :)
>
> Estaban,  Well stated and spot on.
>
> Chris, we'll see. I hope so. You can lead a horse to water but you can't 
> make him drink the water err or koolaid as the case is :)
>
> Now I hope I don't regret selling it.
>
> ~Hugh
> On Mar 14, 2016 7:30 PM, "Pondero" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Perfect.  I hope he engages here so we can continue to keep up with the 
>> further adventures of Willy.
>>
>> Chris Johnson
>> Sanger, Texas
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

2016-03-14 Thread Hugh Smitham

You guy's are the best!

I sent an invite to our SoCal All Rounder group and sent him a link to the
RBW OWNER'S BUNCH with the caveat that his initial posts will be moderated.
I hope he follows through.

I just spoke with him and he's into an April s24o.

Erl, I always appreciate your dear kindness.

David, you nailed it!

Jon, truly!

Jeff, love your humor.

Ryan, Thanks it is and was a bit difficult to let go.

Curtis, exactly.

Doug,  haha a little prodding my friend. Keeping my cards close to my vest.
But I reckon you know what I've got brewing :)

Estaban,  Well stated and spot on.

Chris, we'll see. I hope so. You can lead a horse to water but you can't
make him drink the water err or koolaid as the case is :)

Now I hope I don't regret selling it.

~Hugh
On Mar 14, 2016 7:30 PM, "Pondero"  wrote:

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> further adventures of Willy.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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