Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

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I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. –Eric NOn Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, but good tape should suffice. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that people ship art in? Good luck,Ben On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida 😹Ezri,Merritt Island, FL



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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

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Fold them into 1/3 the original size. Kind of like folding a windscreen 
sunshade, if you’ve ever done that.

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> On Oct 15, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Ezri Rose  wrote:
> 
> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something out 
> yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 inches to 
> 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is counting 
> these days!
> 
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
>> than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
>> but good tape should suffice. 
> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. 
>> If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box 
>> opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the 
>> size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a 
>> few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly 
>> shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>> 
>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that 
>> people ship art in? 
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Ben 
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose > wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida 
>> 😹
>> Ezri,
>> Merritt Island, FL
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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

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+1 on not trying to turn a sports car into a pickup truck.

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> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
> 
> Sounds to me like you’re trying to transform the bike into something it 
> isn’t, and I doubt that a new fork, adding canti posts, crimping the stays, 
> etc. will alter that fundamental fact. I’d ditch it and start over with 
> something that meets your needs without requiring such extensive 
> modification. 
> 
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> 
> Sent from my Atari 400
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>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Collin A  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott, that's exactly why I am thinking about abandonment now...I've 
>> already spent so much time and effort and normally i'd think "what's a bit 
>> more" but I've been screwed by that approach in the past (which eventually 
>> prompted an involuntary career switch).
>> 
>> Patrick/Jason, I agree that taking a break would be beneficial. But like a 
>> FULL break for a couple months (no looking for parts, no brainstorming, 
>> nothing). This thing has been bouncing around in my head for the past 5 
>> months now, so I think a mental break would help clear the decision making 
>> process as it relates to this bike.
>> 
>> Still no decision though,
>> Collin
>> 
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-8 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>> Might be worth reading up on Sunk Cost Fallacy:
>> 
>> https://time.com/5347133/sunk-cost-fallacy-decisions/ 
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost 
>> 
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 1:43:43 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>> Ok, so short story long:
>> 
>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as part 
>> of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the ground. 
>> This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out here 
>> vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, I 
>> began the modifications planned, which included:
>> (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts (cause why 
>> not?) and canti posts
>> (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>> (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the rear for 
>> even more clearance
>> (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original wheels are now 
>> sold
>> (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos which I 
>> have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the Appaloosa
>> (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers (see above, 
>> currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>> (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but no 
>> freewheel yet.
>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I am 
>> more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket combo 
>> and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when it 
>> comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a more 
>> expensive bike than I'd like.
>> 
>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that unique of 
>> a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, etc.) and 
>> I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that aspect. The 
>> visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a unique feature 
>> bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this effort on it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Sactown
>> 
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in understanding how 
>> good the potential end result would be!  I am generally pretty impatient 
>> when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are still new-in-box 
>> Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - there is no 
>> deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's an exciting 
>> build or something that would be very useful to you once complete, I'd just 
>> hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, supply, and bandwidth to 
>> finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - and that's OK.  If 
>> you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid cash, then maybe 
>> different story.  
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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

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>From what I see, this is unfortunate but not dangerous. I have a 1970s frame 
>with even worse flattening due to a former kickstand installation that I ride 
>all the time. Steel is very strong and can easily deal with little dimples 
>like this.

The same frame in carbon fiber would probably be a total loss.

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> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some mutilation to 
> my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was installed by the 
> previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning on the kickstand 
> hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful aftermarket problem 
> solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, depending on how you 
> attach it." 
> 
> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
> 
> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

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P.S. My Soma Saga came with a kickstand installed, and whoever built the bike 
(probably American Cyclery in SF) used thick rubber between the kickstand and 
the frame to prevent dimpling of the top of the chain stays (there’s a 
kickstand plate on the bottom).



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> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some mutilation to 
> my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was installed by the 
> previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning on the kickstand 
> hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful aftermarket problem 
> solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, depending on how you 
> attach it." 
> 
> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
> 
> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS Carradice Duxback Poncho - NEW

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Oh, the memories. I had one of these in yellow—we called it the Flying Pup Tent.

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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 2:37 PM, velomann  wrote:
> 
> $85 + shipping
> Now that the wet season is here I'll try again.
> This is still for sale - Carradice Duxback waxed cotton cycling poncho in 
> standard (not XL) size.
> Never used, ever worn.
> Listing here: 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/portland-carradice-duxback-poncho-new/7254191635.html
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Re: [RBW] FS Carradice Duxback Poncho - NEW

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I had the yellow one. It did look like a little tent.

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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Was your yellow one the heavy nylon one, or the waxed canvas one? I thought 
> the latter was called Ducksback and came only in dark cotton Carradice green. 
> I did own both the waxed canvas one and the bright yellow nylon one, both 
> Carradice -- the latter was cut more short and didn't like the hoods position 
> on drop bars; the former was neat because the water that collected between 
> your arms when you were on the hoods would puddle with irridescent colors 
> from the oil leached from the paraffin wax. You'd dump the collection every 
> few hundred yards in a heavy rain.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:49 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Oh, the memories. I had one of these in yellow—we called it the Flying Pup 
> Tent.
> 
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>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 2:37 PM, velomann > <mailto:velom...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> $85 + shipping
>> Now that the wet season is here I'll try again.
>> This is still for sale - Carradice Duxback waxed cotton cycling poncho in 
>> standard (not XL) size.
>> Never used, ever worn.
>> Listing here: 
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/portland-carradice-duxback-poncho-new/7254191635.html
>>  
>> <https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bop/d/portland-carradice-duxback-poncho-new/7254191635.html>
>> 
>> Mike M
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Re: [RBW] Anyone in Boise,ID that can help facilitate a purchase?

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Philip:

Have you considered using a service like Taskrabbit? I looked into that once 
when I was shipping a bike and needed someone to get the box over the “last 
mile” to the buyer.

You could probably have someone pick up the bike and take it to a local bike 
shop for packing and shipping.

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> On Jan 6, 2021, at 8:51 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> I had that on ebay recently (not bike related). I just had UPS pick it up as 
> a scheduled delivery so all the seller had to do was pack it. They were fine 
> with that.
> 
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-6 Igor wrote:
> Found a (not a Rivendell) fat bike at a shop..they won't ship it..but maybe 
> one of you can help me out? it's snow and winter here and the only thing 
> missing from my stable is a fat bike
> 
> thanks!
> Igor,
> Ann Arbor, MI
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Re: [RBW] Dual tail lights

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How about a small stainless steel hose clamp? Could work if you have a way to 
hide the hardware?



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> On Jan 11, 2021, at 3:35 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> And I forgot to ask my question: I hear that there are metal zip ties. I 
> don't think that the ~ 4mm plastic one holding the Secula to the stay is 
> going to break soon, but perhaps a metal one could be pulled a bit tighter 
> without that risk.
> 
> Can one find say 5 mm metal zip ties that cinch things up very tight? The 
> Secula is designed to be attached with a zip tie, with a rubber shoulder 
> where it contacts the stay, and I further wrapped a small piece of innertube 
> around the stay for more grip. 
> 
> Advice, and source/s?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 4:30 PM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
> Well, it worked. I installed the Bilenky-modified st steel Tubus rear rack 
> (brazed bridge strut, hole for internal wire thru central platform tube), and 
> decided to install a Secula light on the left stay to supplement the 
> rack-mounted lamp. Tidied everything up with heat-shrink tubing and it 
> doesn't look bad. Soldered wires or, better, demontable wires with plugs 
> would have been even better, but I don't have the soldering skills or the 
> plug equipment. Still, it doesn't look bad.
> 
> The tail light power wire runs through a tube itself running thru the top 
> tube, and exits on the bottom of the tt just forward of the st, then runs 
> down to another ditto opening at the inside top of the left seatstay.
> 
> At this point I spliced in a short power wire to the Secula zip tied to the 
> stay just above the bridge, then ran the ground wire to the Secula together 
> with the power wire to the rack light down the stay, both exiting just above 
> the bridge; the ground clamped to the rack bridge mounting bolt, and the 
> power wire entering the rack tube nearby and running as usual to the rear 
> light. The rear lamp's ground is very short, and runs from plug to nearest 
> bolt holding light to rack.
> 
> Given that I really think I am somewhat dyslexic, I was very pleased to see 
> that it all worked and, more, doesn't look completely bodged. The junction of 
> wires between rear of tt and top of seatstay is not too untidy; heat shrink 
> tubing does wonders.
> 
> Small change for those of you who do professional-quality wiring, but it 
> pleased me.
> 
> Now I have a backup that doesn't require charging or new batteries; the 2 
> lamps plus a big reflective triangle or Sam Browne should keep me safe.
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[RBW] FS: Bike Computer

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Looking for a simple, accurate bike computer? Don’t need all the GPS-enabled 
bells and whistles? On a budget?

I’m selling a BBB wireless computer (model BCP-15W) that I purchased in 
Rambouillet in 2019 after I discovered that I had left my “real” bike computer 
back in the USA. Used for a couple of rides, then carefully removed and stored 
ever since. Comes with the O-rings, etc., needed to install, instruction 
manual, original packaging.

$20 shipped in the USA.


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Re: [RBW] Bike Computer

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SOLD!!

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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:58 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> Looking for a simple, accurate bike computer? Don’t need all the GPS-enabled 
> bells and whistles? On a budget?
> 
> I’m selling a BBB wireless computer (model BCP-15W) that I purchased in 
> Rambouillet in 2019 after I discovered that I had left my “real” bike 
> computer back in the USA. Used for a couple of rides, then carefully removed 
> and stored ever since. Comes with the O-rings, etc., needed to install, 
> instruction manual, original packaging.
> 
> $20 shipped in the USA.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

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I have a Park Tool stand similar to this one:

https://www.parktool.com/product/deluxe-home-mechanic-repair-stand-pcs-10-2?category=Portable
 

 

I’ve had mine for a few years. Folds up easily, holds the bike very steady. The 
clamp rotates to hold via the seat post (my preferred location) or the top 
tube. 

Mine differs from the stands on the Park web site in the way the legs fold up 
and in the way the clamp works. Otherwise very much the same. I can highly 
recommend it.

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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok, that got your attention. 
> 
> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had it with 
> trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put sealant in 
> my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. Hopping 
> mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage tonight. I’m sick 
> and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of working on a 
> bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a stand against not 
> having a stand.
> 
> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and also 
> $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
> 
> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that takes up 
> a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. (Not the frame.)
> 
> You’re the best!
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Frame has been FOUND!

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Build it up and LOCK it up!

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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Curtis McKenzie  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good you had a positive outcome.  Time to build up that bicycle!
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 10:13 AM Jan O.  wrote:
>> The frame has been located. It had been moved, without knowledge, to a 
>> different storage location. It was a genuine mistake and all is good now.
>> 
>> Jan
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis Due date?

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Patrick:

I’ve run out of places in the USA to buy used cameras from, and recently 
started ordering from sellers in Europe and former Soviet Union. A small 
package from Lithuania arrived this week after being in transit for about six 
weeks. It was interesting (and frustrating) to watch the online tracking, which 
unlike USPS shipments involved extended periods during which nothing changed. 
The package left a post office in Lithuania and then … crickets, until it 
popped up in Chicago about three weeks later. Then it left Chicago heading for 
California, but again it went dark until the day before delivery, when it was 
logged in at the local post office.

I joked with my daughter that it would be handed to me by a very tired employee 
of the Lithuanian post office, who would have ridden a small donkey all the way 
from Lithuania. 

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> On Jan 29, 2021, at 2:05 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> What is holding up stock, is it production or supply chain, or both? That is, 
> are factories still at part capacity because of Covid, or is shipping from 
> manufacturing countries just backed up with too many orders? I'm curious, 
> because I was just talking to someone at the LBS who told me that they can't 
> get hold of the entry-level mountain bikes that are in highest demand; he 
> said it's less the frames than the parts to build them, and they're looking 
> at similar timelines.
> 
> Too bad that Riv has to wait while people are eager to buy.
> 
> In other news, an exotic Sturmey Archer hub shipped Thursday, 1/21 from 
> England arrived Tuesday 1/26 in ABQ, NM -- perhaps Her Majesty's Postal 
> Service expedites old British iron. We'll see if this repeats; just placed 
> another order from same vendor for 2 ancient SA cogs.
> 
> In yet other news, my Veruskeleta order placed on 12/31 is still sitting on 
> the dock in Helsinki (does Helsinki have a dock? Yes, just checked Google 
> Maps: it fronts the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Bohemia) waiting for someone 
> to transport it to NM. Really annoying, because I padded the order to make 
> the free shipping minimum, and I expect that, had I paid shipping instead of 
> paying for the odds and ends I only sorta kinda wanted, I'd have received the 
> order long ago. 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:24 AM André P  > wrote:
> From Will's "End of 2020 frame round-up" email, the Atlantii should be coming 
> August/September. Not sure if this timeline has been updated since.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 6:57:26 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Anyone know when the new batch of Atlantis will be delivered to the ye olde 
> Rivendell Hq?
> 
> TIA,
> 
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[RBW] FS: Brand New 1" Tange Threaded Headset

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Came with a bike as a spare part. Never used, still in the original wrapping. 
Made by Tange. Perfect complement to any Riv-ish bike with a standard quill 
stem.

$25 shipped in the CONUS.


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Re: [RBW] Brand New 1" Tange Threaded Headset

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It’s yours! You can PayPal me at campyonly...@me.com 
<mailto:campyonly...@me.com>

Be sure to include a shipping address.

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> On Feb 2, 2021, at 9:44 AM, David Hays <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ll take it Eric if available.
> David Hays 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 12:39 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>> > <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
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>> Came with a bike as a spare part. Never used, still in the original 
>> wrapping. Made by Tange. Perfect complement to any Riv-ish bike with a 
>> standard quill stem.
>> 
>> $25 shipped in the CONUS.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Fun with Lights!

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Looks like a great mod! 

I did something similar with the original vintage headlight on my Alex Singer. 
Because the front rack on the bike was purpose-built to support the light, I 
decided to leave it on and add a modern Schmidt headlight on the other side. 
Inside the vintage light is a new LED lamp that, as you note with yours, is 
more for visibility than for seeing the road. Both are powered by a modern 
Velogical dynamo running on the rear wheel.




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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 6:24 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> I had been looking for a while for something cool & retro for lighting to add 
> to the Trek about-townie. I have a Light+Motion set that really work great 
> but certainly don't have the "look."
> 
> A trip to the parts bin at my local bike advocacy store & a suitable donation 
> to the cause netted me a very dirty but largely undamaged chrome headlight 
> that had been part of a generator set. Yesterday, after judicious 
> applications of Simulchrome, I fired up the soldering iron and rebuilt the 
> light, adding a push switch and LED bulb powered by rechargeable AAAs. Plenty 
> bright enough to be seen & works well with the build methinks?
> 
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

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As a film shooter, I appreciate the obvious use of analog photographs on the 
home page. Nice!

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> On Feb 12, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
> 
> i for one made frequent use of the 'email me when this item is back in stock' 
> option and would very much appreciate if that returned.
> 
> paul
> takoma park, md.
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:50:44 AM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
> I like being able to see my whole purchase history in my account, via the 
> page number scroller. I think the old site used to cut off at about 1 year’s 
> worth of transactions
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 8:16:22 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:
> I like the new look. Great to see Leah's excellently appointed Platypus build 
> up on the new news section. It would be nice if you could click on an image 
> to expand it. I like being able to check out all the little details on 
> people's bikes.
> 
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:00:43 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
> 
> 
> Looking good.  Regarding the sub categories, which indeed can be helpful, if 
> you open the "3-bar" menu, you get the drop down major categories--Parts, 
> Gear, Garage Sale, etc. By clicking the "+" sign next to a main category, you 
> get subcategories--eg, under Parts, you get Bottom Brackets, Brakes, 
> Cassettes, Etc. If you click on brakes, you get the whole shebang, blended 
> together--calipers, levers, pads, cables--all intermingled with willy and 
> nilly.  BUT, if you click directly on the word "Parts" instead of the "+", 
> you get taken to the Catalog, which breaks down brakes into: Brake types, 
> brake hardware, etc. (The catalog also appears to the right of the drop down 
> main, but is cut off, at least on my laptop.) Would there be a way for that 
> click on Parts to bring you to exclusively that "catalog style" menu JUST for 
> parts? 
> 
> Two sections that could use a further "+" or submenu IMO would be brakes and 
> handlebars. 
> 
> It's not an easy task to develop a logical taxonomy for web site navigation. 
> Multiple pathways and redundancies are good, but can sometimes be confusing 
> when different pathways use different nomenclature, or when it's not clear 
> where exactly you are.  The ultimate is to have a visitor who finds what they 
> are seeking in two or three easy no-brainer clicks.
> 
> I imagine some further refinement and tweaking could be a benefit. Meanwhile, 
> totally useable as is.
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>  webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up 
> the homepage, improved the search, and updated a number of things for a 
> smoother experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
> 
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on Tumblr 
> ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com  to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news .   
> With that move, you now have one site for all the latest product updates, 
> news and Grant's blog. Just head to the homepage.
> 
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
> 
> Dave Schonenberg
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Re: [RBW] My Rambouillet Build

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Zip ties? Ha! There’s special part for that:


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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 8:30 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> Any regular cable housing will give you that swoop. Crossing the cables can 
> give them a bit more support. Some people zip tie them together here. These 
> days I usually top mine out about a hand's length maybe a smidge more from 
> the top of the tops to the high point of the arch. That's about as low as you 
> want to go; after that the cable can potentially exit the lever at too severe 
> of an angle, causing it to prematurely wear and possibly affect braking 
> performance. Right now four of my four roadworthy road bikes are non-aero.( 
> Photo angle can also make them look longer or shorter.)
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 4:45:19 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
> I love this Rambouillet and it's decently wide gearing range.  Looks very 
> comfy.
> 
> I'm in the process of building up a similar Canti-Romdowntube shifters 
> and non-aero levers.
> Curious if there's a trick to get non-aero housing to swoop up and down 
> gracefully like that?  Is there a type or brand that is best suited for this?
> Also, does anyone know the name or code for this Ram color?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:36:52 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:
> I owned a 64cm sage green Ram recently... Do you have my old bike!? I think 
> our timelines are different. I bought mine from a used shop in western NC in 
> spring 2018 and sold it to a list member in summer 2019. I liked almost 
> everything about that bike but got interested in a BMC MCD and let it go. In 
> retrospect, I regret selling that bike and I am eagerly anticipating the 
> Roadinis coming back in stock this year. Here are two photos of my sage green 
> Ram. 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Miller > wrote:
> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
> 
> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now that it 
> is actually taking form.
> 
> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built up 
> four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. Unfortunately 
> a number of not so great life events happened shortly after that, including 
> fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 months. The frame 
> moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly collected dust in my 
> garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a bit lonely while I 
> worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. During this time I 
> quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually coalesced into a build 
> for the Rambouillet.
> 
> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a bit 
> of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was included 
> with a Tange headset.
> 
> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is my 
> first time executing it.
> 
> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction 
> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was 
> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 
> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but 
> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work 
> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was 
> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and 40 
> teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly 
> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about 
> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for 
> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be nice 
> to hear from others about their experience!
> 
> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in and 
> shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and paired 
> with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished mounting a 
> pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and got strung 
> together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are mounted on the 
> Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the only brand new 
> part on this b

Re: [RBW] Custom Details

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Columbine used to offer a plastic band-on version of this braze-on item, called 
the “Quickchainger.” 

You can see it here, but I’m not 100% sure that the web site is still valid: 

http://www.columbinecycle.com/store.php 
 

Here’s a picture:



I had these on several bikes, and it is definitely a cool device. It doesn’t 
work well with vertical or semi-vertical dropouts.

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> On Feb 19, 2021, at 1:18 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:
> 
> I'm having weird posting stuff today, apologies again if this is a dupe.
> 
> I've seen quite a few seatstay-mount chain hangers shear off. Depending on 
> location and with short chain length and/or higher chain tension, they can 
> also make it a little difficult to get the wheel in/out. Chainstay mount 
> doesn't have either problem.
> 
> Back in my yout, that chainstay-mount attachment was thought to have been 
> invented by the Murphy Bros. at Columbine. I phrase it that way because I'm 
> now pretty used to thinking something like this only to have somebody say: 
> "The French/Italians/whoevs were doing this in the 1930s!" Or 1800s. Or 
> whenevs.
> 
> I have two '82 Columbines, but neither have the Columbine chainstay-mount 
> hanger. One has a standard cyclindrical-shaped boss, the other has an unusual 
> (to me) kinda squished L-shaped hook. Pictured below, but it was hard to get 
> the angle I wanted with the bike hanging on a hook. It does hold the chain a 
> little more securely, but would shear off just as easily if I forgot the 
> unhook the chain and rode off.
> 
> <50959204003_9099d0d08a_w.jpg><50959904256_c16d9ce0ee_w.jpg><50960004487_1048f8ec0b_w(1).jpg>
> 
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
> 
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 11:12:36 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
> Grant recommended against that type of chain hanger when I got my custom. He 
> recommended the chainstay mounted version instead. He said that with the seat 
> stay version, people would forget the chain was hung and push down on the 
> pedals and rip it out of the seat stay because you could mount the rear wheel 
> with the chain still on the hanger. With the chainstay version, you have to 
> get the chain off the chain hanger to get the rear wheel in. 
> 
> 
> 
> Laing
> 
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 11:01:47 AM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:
> It's not really an easter egg, but it IS a wonderful detail: the peg on the 
> frame above the rear axle to hand the chain on. I am recalling it now as I 
> took a fix-your-bike course a while back and my Bertrand* was on the 
> workstand and when the peg was pointed out, the rest of the class was 
> completely agog at such a thing.
> 
> Does my Riv have one? Not sure, I imagine it does.
> 
> No picture, the bike is in Ontario. But here is someone else's example
> 
> 
> EricF
> Vancouver
> 
> 
> * frame by Marinoni
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[RBW] WTB: Cycling Suspenders

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Anybody have a pair of the clip-on type suspenders for bike shorts? Looking for 
a pair. 

–Eric N

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Re: [RBW] What is the seller's safety with PayPal and other payments.

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Roberta:

I’ve never had a problem buying or selling using PayPal. I would never, ever 
take a check of any kind, cashiers or otherwise. 

Craigslist offers advice on how to avoid being scammed: 
https://www.craigslist.org/about/scams  

Among their recommendations: “Don’t accept cashier/certified checks or money 
orders"

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> On Mar 8, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Riv content:  I'll be listing a Riv soon.  Lots of us sell bikes.
> 
> What is the seller's safety in getting paid with a cashiers check, PayPal, 
> Zelle, cash, other options?  I''ll be listing my complete bike here and on 
> CL, so likely I'll be selling to a stranger.  I'd want to protect myself 
> again someone taking my bike and then, somehow, I wouldn't get the funds.
> 
> When I bought a bike from a list member, we met in person, I paid him with 
> PayPal, he accepted the money and then I took the bike.
> 
> Roberta
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

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That’s the same Cinelli. I was finally convinced that the bike was worth more 
to me than it would be to someone else, and that I should just ride it. Which I 
do.

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> On Mar 8, 2021, at 12:08 PM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> Matthew, I like your doggie.  What's he/she's name and what the breed?
> 
> Eric...hmmm, seems like I recall that restored Cinelli  being up for sale a 
> while back.  Didn't sell or am I thinking of a different bike?
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:07:44 PM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> Not really where the bikes get worked on, but thought the group might be 
> interested in my Bike Room/Office. 
> 
> This room reflects an agreement with my wife that I can have as many bikes as 
> will fit in here. Up to eight so far:
> 
> Top row, L-R: 2002 Richard Sachs custom; 1997 Riv Road Standard, converted to 
> 650B (with my 2011 PBP number plate, although this bike didn’t go there that 
> year—it did go in 2007 with its former owner); 1972 Cinelli Speciali Corsa
> Bottom row, L-R: Original edition Quickbeam, currently in 3-speed mode (aka 
> the Quickbeam That Conquered PBP); 1983 Alex Singer randonneuse; 
> 2000-something Soma Saga (my “adventure bike”) and 1976 Centurion Pro Tour.
> Far right: 2005 Alex Singer randonneuse
> 
> All of these bikes is ready at a moment’s notice to have the tires topped off 
> and be out for a ride. Some get more use than others, but they mostly all get 
> out on the road on a semi-regular basis.
> 
> Also visible is my home office setup, which of course has seen a lot of use 
> over the past year. If you look closely, you can spot a green backdrop that 
> extends behind my chair to create a green screen for Zoom video calls, and a 
> “ring light” that I bought to try to make myself look better on camera.
> 
> Under my desk chair, for all you Portland, OR, fans, is an original piece of 
> the famous “PDX Carpet” that was removed from the airport a few years ago 
> when they recarpeted. A local carpet store bought the remnants and sold them 
> as area rugs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT 650b rim brake wheelset

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Brendan:

Assuming I’m the trade, would you like to meet in Benicia Saturday around 9 am?

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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Brendan Willard in SF  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone.  I have a local trade, and purchase as options.  
> 
> That Velomine deal is a good one!
> 
> Brendan in SF
> 
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:44:16 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
> I have the takeoffs from my 2016 Joe Appaloosa from when I decided to go 
> tubeless.   They are 135 spacing.  36 hole. From what Joe Bernard tells me, 
> they are like these but available:   
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-made-shimano-alex-wheelset-650b-x-32h-135
>  
> 
>.  PM me and I can send you the pics I took (they are still on my phone).  
>   $200+shipping.  And, of course, I'm on the east coast.
> 
> About 2700 non hard braking miles (I am not a rough rider no go down many 
> hills).   Rims are in great shape.  Every other spoke nipple is a different 
> color--blue, green, purple.
> 
> David, you SHOULD get a Platy.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:03:50 PM UTC-5 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
> In the tradition of always having the wrong wheelsets around, I ask you all 
> to forgive me for failing to notice that I would need a 650b wheelset when 
> moving from a 59 clem to a 52.  Possible trade for one of my 700c wheelsets 
> (rich built, deore xt/lx/velocity variety).  
> 
> Didn't I just have several 650b wheelsets??  I did.  Yes.
> 
> Brendan in SF, who has 3 wheelsets for one frame, no wheelsets for another, 
> and a wheelset that doesn't fit any of his frames.
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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

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M. Bleriot a été en guerre! Really, a crankset with no rings? Who does that?

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> On Mar 13, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Jeffrey S  wrote:
> 
> Not a Rivendell, but a VERY nice Ebisu touring bike from Jitensha Studio in 
> Berkeley. Located in Portland, OR.
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-ebisu-jitensha-study-touring/7290768177.html
>  
> 
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 9:14:55 PM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
> Bleriot frameset
> 57cm
> $400
> Minneapolis MN
> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/amherst-rivendell-bleriot-frame-57-cm/7289878456.html
>  
> 
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 7:47:58 PM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:
> Clem Smith Jr. 
> 45cm 
> $1000 
> Waterford, ME 
> https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/d/north-waterford-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7280189187.html
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Clem Smith Jr. 
> 52cm 
> $1250 
> Seattle, WA 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-52cm-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7281407780.html
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Betty Foy 
> 54cm 
> $1000 
> Berkeley, CA 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-custom-rivendell-betty-foy/7280374983.html
>  
> 
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dave Moulton's blog worth a look today

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Another great intro to this topic is the 2016 documentary, “Hypernormalisation” 
by British filmmaker Adam Curtis. Easy to find on streaming services and worth 
a watch, as are all of his films.

--Eric N

> On Mar 24, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Scott G.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think I have been hanging out in a different reality than Mr. Moulton.
> Great Grandad explained the the world had gone to hell once the Emperor Franz 
> Joseph died.
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 4:33:52 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>> Glad you brought those points up, Patrick.  There was a time in our nation 
>> when rewards were external.  Sure, people took pride in what they did, but 
>> they saw the reward in what earning a living did for their families.  Not 
>> any more.  Beginning with our Boomer generation (yep, I'm one of 'em, too) 
>> rewards began to become internalized - first it was something like "I feel 
>> rewarded (internally) when see what my teaching, etc. does for my students.  
>> Now it's gone down to the point where I feel good about who I think I am 
>> (and I'll leave it go at that).  Carl Trueman wrote a book that was 
>> published last year entitled, "The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: 
>> Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to the Sexual 
>> Revolution."  In it he does an excellent job of tracing the roots of how got 
>> to where we are as a culture from the 17th Century up to the late 20th and 
>> the impact that philosophers, poets, artists, and psychoanalysts had and how 
>> they finally culminated in what became known as deconstructionism.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 12:00:58 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> Good points. Moulton reminds me of Matthew Crawford's Shop Class as Soul 
>>> Craft where he argues that even the "base mechanical arts" (Crawford's 
>>> examples are electrician and motorcycle mechanic) incline the practitioner 
>>> to both moral and intellectual virtue (in the traditional sense; Crawford 
>>> is that rarest of birds, an Aristotelian who is not a Thomist) because they 
>>> force one regularly to submit to reality external to the ego. This would be 
>>> even more true for a creative craft, and both in contradiction to "digital" 
>>> and clerical trades, he says.
>>> 
>>> He repeats this general theme -- we need close and regular involvement with 
>>> external reality to thrive -- with a slightly different slant in his later 
>>> The World Beyond Your Head
>>> 
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:40 AM Tim Baldwin  wrote:
 Dig it. I end up on his blog occasionally. He does have some good been 
 around the block a few times wisdom. I think Grant may have linked to 
 Dave's blog and that was how I ended up there.
 I was reading Lila by Robert Pirsig last night and got to a section 
 talking about celebrity. A zen master once told him, "If you get too 
 famous you will go straight to hell." The idea being that once you become 
 a celebrity you have two personalities diverging, the true self and the 
 image others have of you. This is true of all people to some extent but 
 gets magnified when your fame increases, thus making it more difficult to 
 get in touch with your true self. I don't have much desire to be famous 
 but I would like to be happy. These are good reminders that happiness is a 
 choice we make each day, not something that is given or owed to us.
 
>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 10:57:55 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>> Thanks for posting.  Good read.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 11:01:13 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> I guess not too many on this list read a blog by a retired builder of 
>>> racing frames, but Moulton has a fund of basic wisdom in his very old 
>>> age. He's not a wise man, but he's a practical man who grew up in 
>>> harder times, worked at a real craft, and has mellowed in old age. FWIW.
>>> 
>>> http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] I Wish I Were...

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My hands-down favorite bag of this type is from Revelate Designs:

https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/cockpit/MountainFeedbag 


I generally use it to carry a camera so I can grab it and shoot on the fly.

Killer feature on this bag is the one-handed loose/tight adjustment. It only 
takes one hand to loosen or tighten the cinch at the top of the bag. Chrome 
makes a similar bag, but it requires two hands to loosen it, which is a pain 
when you’re riding. The Etsy bag looks like it requires two hands to open it 
(but only one to tighten).

OTOH, the Etsy bag is certainly more colorful!

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> On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Nice folks on etsy - 
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/861259964/day-tripper-cockpit-bicycle-bag-give?ref=yr_purchases
> 
> Price was great too.
> 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:19:24 PM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:
> love the stem bag! where'd you get it? 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 10:50:16 AM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
> I didn't know that was still around.  Dates back to the 50s.  Maybe they use 
> the same preservatives on the vehicle as in the hotdogs.
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the chuckle. 
> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:24:05 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> ...an Oscar Mayer Weiner
> That is what I truly wish to be
> Cause if I were a oscar mayer weiner
> Everyone would be in love
> Oh everyone would be in love
> Everyone would be in love with me
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pick your brains about spoke count?

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In my experience, the quality of the rim and spokes and the skill of the 
wheelbuilder matter much more than the spoke count. A well-made 32-spoke wheel 
will outlive a cheap 36-spoke wheel any day. 

I’ve ended up with several bikes with 36-spoke wheels, but more by chance than 
design. I ride on some “classic” hubs that were made at a time when 36 was the 
standard. 

--Eric N

> On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:05 AM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> Lately I've noticed that many suppliers aren't offering any 36 hole rims or 
> hubs, as though they're going by the wayside.  A quick check into the Phil 
> Wood website shows they're only offering 36 hole in a few models.  And 
> another check into a major virtual bike shop with "36 hole" as a sort 
> criteria showed only 19 rims available in that count among the nearly 60 
> available in 32 hole.  BTW, when checking both sites I noticed "sold out" for 
> almost everything - scary, I think.
> 
> 
>> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> I would always go with the 36. One reason is that the spokes at the rim 
>> joint cross, so the spoke tension is working to close the rim joint. This 
>> was the reason to go to 44 instead of 40 or 48 many, many years ago, but I 
>> think that 44 is an obsolete spoke count at this point. Rims are so much 
>> better now that it probably does not matter any more. At 280, I have lots of 
>> bikes with 40 and 48 spoke rims. But I don't break spokes on my 32 hole rims 
>> either.
>> 
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>> 
>>> On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 6:39:44 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hey all!
>>> Hypothetically...does an Atlas wheel set with 32 spokes for a 6'3" 210 
>>> pound dude make sense if he's on an unloaded Sam and using it as an 
>>> all-road bike? No singletrack/mountain biking, jumping, etc... Tires would 
>>> be AT LEAST 40mm, possibly up to 44mm. 
>>> 
>>> OR...is it 36h or bust if you're a big fellow? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben in Omaha
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Re: [RBW] New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

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Ben:

I would certainly change the brake cables. If the housings look ok, leave them 
(especially since changing them would require losing that nice tape/twine job). 
Brake cables fail; housings just get rusty and old.

If the shifter cables look good, you can probably leave them in place. Look 
where the cables go under the bottom bracket. That’s where they will usually 
get rusty and old first. If they look good and work smoothly, apply a little 
oil (such as Phil’s) at the BB shell and leave them. Again, if the housings 
look good, no need to replace them.

Brakes are much more important than shifting—take care of them first!

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> On Nov 4, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> Good morning!
> I've wanted a zippier second bike to complement my lovely Atlantis for a 
> while now, and I finally got one! Up until a couple weeks ago, I made it my 
> plan to buy a Homer frame when they eventually get released, pay for frame 
> prepping, and stash it in my basement, and amass parts over the winter to 
> build it up. But...this lovely Samuel Hillborne came up for sale on eBay and 
> it just felt meant to be. To top it off, the seller was a 3 hour drive away. 
> Long story short, I got it!
> 
> The build is what they used to call "700 Drop Bar Sam Jumbo" Build Kit...it's 
> a 9" stem instead of the listed 11". Nothing super fancy, but all quality! It 
> took me a solid four days to notice the headbage is upside down...not sure I 
> really care, but I did find an RJ the Bike Guy video on headbadge 
> removal/installation if it does end up bugging me. 
> 
> <3.jpg>
> 
> <1.jpg>
> 
> <2.jpg>
> 
> Here is where I could use some help/recommendations...
> 1. I know I want different tires. It has 40mm Marathon Supremes that measure 
> only 38-39mm. I can't get a 42mm Shikoro in there without contact and trying 
> to adjust the fender. I would like to keep the fenders on for now. I like the 
> Shikoros I have on my Atlantis enough to just get a pair of 38mm and call it 
> a day, but maybe I don't need quite that tough of a tire for paved bike 
> trails, crushed limestone trails, light gravel/dirt roads, etc... What do you 
> like? 
> 
> 2. If you bought an 8 year old bike with all-original parts, would you 
> freshen up the cables/housing or would you just ride until you have a problem?
> 
> 3. It might be kind of fun to throw on some Silver shifters while I'm at it. 
> I like the Shimano Dura-Ace shifters fine, but the Riv website says their 
> downtube Silver Shifters can be put on the Shimano pods. Has anyone any 
> advice or warnings about doing this? 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Wool Anorak and Winter Riding

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Dave:

I don’t have much experience with very cold climates, but even here in cold-ish 
Northern California it’s easy to over-dress. There’s a saying among runners 
that you “don’t dress for the first mile.” If you leave on a bike ride feeling 
warm and toasty, you’ll likely feel overheated and sweaty very soon.

Maybe rather than a (I assume) heavily insulated anorak, you could invest in 
several lighter pieces that can be put on and taken off in layers. A wind shell 
on top to keep the cold wind out, and one or two layers of wool. 

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> On Nov 5, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Dave Grossman  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of investing in a wool anorak for winter activities and just 
> wondering if anyone uses one for riding in the winter or if they get a bit 
> too warm?  They are a substantial investment but worth it in my opinion. 
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Re: [RBW] Night riding

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AMEN, brother! Super-bright rear lights have been a pet peeve of mine for 
years. You don’t need a light that bright, and you’re creating a hazard for 
whoever tries to ride behind you. They’re rude and send the message that you’re 
oblivious to, or don’t care about, the safety and comfort of others.

Lee Mitchell, a local legend in the cycling community who spent thousands of 
hours supporting rides as a sag driver, once told me that the single most 
effective piece of nighttime gear is a reflective ankle band. Hands down. The 
motion is attention-getting and immediately sends the message that you are a 
cyclist.

I take that advice to heart and always wear a reflective band. I like the 
“stick-out” kind that Rivendell sells: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar 
 

(Bonus: Right now, the Riv ankle bands are on sale!)

Eric Norris
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> On Nov 11, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Bill Schairer  wrote:
> 
> Please don't ride with one of those blinding, pulsing, rear strobe lights.  
> On my ride home last night somebody with one of those decided he had to pass 
> me and I could barely see anything.  I guess he probably felt safer but he 
> was definitely putting me at greater risk.  I also try to remember to put my 
> ankle reflector bands on - the argument I read that made sense to me being 
> that the motion clearly identifies one as a cyclist.  Cheap and easy so why 
> not?
> 
> Bill
> San Diego
> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:57:10 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
> I tried to post this yesterday, but it doesn't seem to have popped up.
> 
> It's the time of year for riding at night. (??) I'd like to hear other folks' 
> strategies and recommendations for fun rides at night.
> 
> My rides at night have mostly been 15-20 mile road rides, fairly fast. The 
> main problem I've had is relaxing, especially at higher speeds with the 
> reduced visibility. I've been curious about trail riding but haven't tried it.
> 
> thoughts? I'm not buying dynamos right now, but have adequate lights, 
> backups, vest, etc. I'm mostly looking for ride ideas, things not to do, 
> things that are more fun than they sound, etc.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

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Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if your 
frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need to be 
snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.

As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll know if 
the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two seconds to do 
that. 

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> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a while 
> you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride that 
> it's time. 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first time 
> using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
> 
> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, which 
> I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you want 
> just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a feel for, 
> not too tight, not too loose. 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. Had 
> it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most of 
> them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was a 
> wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
> 
> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear shifting 
> was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of the 
> cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next largest cog 
> (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and would shift all 
> the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one cog, but the 
> shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that would 
> typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to the 
> largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out rear 
> shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each time.
> 
> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like ghost 
> shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its own. It 
> is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all the way to 
> the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver shifter issue 
> (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some things).
> 
> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
> 
> Any thoughts or tips?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Adam
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Re: [RBW] Why did you buy your first Riv?

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It was 2005, and I was looking for a fixed-gear capable bike to ride long 
distances. I had signed up to be part of the Big Fix cross-country ride in 
2006, and it was clear that my Soma was not going to fit the bill—fast and 
light, but not great for multiple days in the saddle.

My friend, the organizer of the Big Fix, had a Quickbeam and convinced me to 
try it. 

I bought mine after being told in no uncertain terms by the well-meaning folk 
in Walnut Creek that it was too small for me, based on their sizing orthodoxy.

I rode the Quickbeam successfullly on the Big Fix and, a year later, rode 
Paris-Brest-Paris on it. 

I still have the Quickbeam, now with a three-speed hub, and ride it regularly. 

And it’s still too small.

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> On Dec 13, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Kushan  wrote:
> 
> After a year of pandemic riding on an aluminum hybrid bike in 2020, I was 
> ready to buy a more "serious" bike for longer rides. A lot of people and 
> shops I talked to recommended a carbon road bike was the natural choice and 
> that's what all the serious cyclists rode. Before jumping on that bandwagon, 
> I had the bright idea of renting a top of the line carbon road bike for a 
> day. Despite their marketed "endurance geometry" and having the right sized 
> bike, it felt uncomfortable, even in the muslces that one normally doesn't 
> use in cycling. On a local 15 mile route, I was slower than I had been on my 
> "cheap" hybrid bike. Being a Walnut Creek resident, I had known about 
> Rivendell and read some of their articles online. I gladly returned my rental 
> carbon bike the same day. Since then, have acquired a Roadini and an 
> Appaloosa and love them both. 
> 
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 10:07:10 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I had been idly considering a Hillborne for quite some time because it 
> checked all the boxes for me on capability, and I was Riv-curious for a 
> couple years but enjoyed my Soma too.  I naively thought that when the 2019 
> batch of Hillbornes were gone, they'd never be back or at least never be back 
> the same, since at that point all the other models had massively long rear 
> ends and I wasn't ready for that. So I impulsively bought the third-to-last 
> Sam from that batch (of the last size and colour available, orange 51) before 
> it was too late. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 09:48:56 UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
> I know Bicycling did a short review of the all-rounder in the nineties; might 
> have been Jim Langley and Addison Wilhite who wrote the Rambler blog scanned 
> many early Rivendell reviews. I rather like this review of the Riv Road by 
> Garrett Lai of Bicycle Guide who had a stable of really good writers
> https://www.addisonwilhite.com/uploads/4/0/1/2/40122449/rivendell_road_review_-_1996.pdf
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Me - 1993 X0-1 - lover of old B-stone catalogues with their art and writing 
> and rather nice production bikes, but not as fancy as the Rivs
> 
> 1997 - green all-rounder 
> 
> late 2000 Curt Goodrich custom harvest gold road bike
> 
> early 2017 ordered Dec 31 2015 Mark Nobilette  maroon custom mixte
> 
> Still have all 4 bikes...my one material extravagance 
> 
> Love their ethos and earlier classic sensibility and they're lovely people. I 
> like it that their newer stuff is a lot more affordable and it's clearly 
> making people very happy
> 
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 10:52:58 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
> If anyone can find this review and post it or a link to it, I'd be very 
> grateful. 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 8:01 PM > wrote:
> I read a review of a Riv Road in Bicycling magazine in the late 90’s and that 
> review led me to research Rivendell bicycles. That research led me to the BOB 
> group which soon lead to a custom order for an All Rounder being placed. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Huret dérailleurs

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Well … I have a Jubilee on a bike that was built in around 2003. The derailleur 
was
probably used already by the time it was put on the bike, but it’s at least 
that old. I’ve put many miles on it, including a full brevet series and one 
edition of PBP. The previous owner put many more miles on it (I got the bike in 
2015). Still going strong and shifting very well indeed. 

Don’t underestimate the durability of those old French parts! 

P.S. I do have a backup Jubilee in my parts archive just in case, but so far no 
need for it. 

–Eric N


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 8:22 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:
> 
> 
> As someone who owned a couple of Duopars back in the 1980s, they worked 
> better than anything else around at the time when new, but they were rather 
> flimsy and easily bent, and even if you managed to avoid bending them, they 
> wore out rather quickly in real world conditions.
> 
> The Jubilee was just as fragile...
> 
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] The Cycling Reporter: Herbsaint Sazerac

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Excellent! I loved the movie.

As a film camera collector, I appreciate both the bike *and* the Leica!

Eric Norris
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> On Dec 20, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Hi all – I just watched the French Dispatch after a long wait for it to 
> arrive to streaming services. I was delighted, as always, by a new Wes 
> Anderson movie. 
> 
> Owen Wilson plays a writer who explores and reports from a fictional French 
> city by bicycle. His handlebars are appointed with a small spiral notebook 
> and he rides with a Leica M3 around his neck. 
> 
> I'm not a French bike enthusiast but I just had to figure out which frame 
> he's riding. Turns out it's a Manufrance. Apologies for three non-drive-side 
> photos, that's how I found them! 
> 
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[RBW] Wanted: Crank Brothers Pedals

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Anybody have a pair they don’t need? Black preferred, must be a style that 
includes the alloy or composite body. Used is OK.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Crank Brothers Pedals

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Thanks!

--Eric N

> On Jan 6, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> Eric
> 
> There is a set of Candy 2 pedals offered for sale over on IBob.  The seller 
> has not posted a picture.  
> 
> best
> Bill Lindsay
> 
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>> Anybody have a pair they don’t need? Black preferred, must be a style that 
>> includes the alloy or composite body. Used is OK. 
>> 
>> Thanks! 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris 
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Re: [RBW] Wanted: Crank Brothers Pedals

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Pedals found!

--Eric N

> On Jan 4, 2022, at 4:16 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> Anybody have a pair they don’t need? Black preferred, must be a style that 
> includes the alloy or composite body. Used is OK.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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[RBW] FS: Fly 6 Rear View Camera/Taillight

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Picked this up used and then found that it won’t work on my desired bikes. 

Rear-facing camera captures a continuous loop of video, great for helping 
resolve disputes about who hit whom.

Fits standard Riv-style seat posts. Also includes adapters for those super-rare 
airfoil ‘posts.

$45 shipped to you in the CONUS.

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Re: [RBW] Wanted: Crank Brothers Pedals

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Thanks, but I’ve already located a pair.

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> On Jan 7, 2022, at 10:12 AM, sam.perez.2...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have a set if your still in the market for them . 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 6, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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>> 
>> Pedals found!
>> 
>> --Eric N
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2022, at 4:16 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anybody have a pair they don’t need? Black preferred, must be a style that 
>>> includes the alloy or composite body. Used is OK.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Groups.Google

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DOS? Ha! I remember working on a Kaypro running CP/M back in the day. DOS would 
have been a step up!

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> On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:05 AM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> Rick(?) and Ron,  How are you guys trying to use the group: phone vs 
> computer, in email or browser?
> 
> The last few days it has been kinda glitchy when I'm logged in thru the 
> Firefox browser on my laptop. I really miss the old format, but I've never 
> liked adapting to software upgrades, and I still miss DOS. I guess it's 
> appropriate my bikes head badge is a wooly mammoth.
> 
> John
> 
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:57:42 AM UTC-8 rickur...@gmail.com wrote:
> I love my Rivendell, and I love Rivendell owners! 
> But, I despise this Google group format! 
> I wish there was another way. I'm sure there is, I just don't know what it is
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Re: [RBW] HHH ride report

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Looks gorgeous! Someone from England would probably love to go here on vacation.

What kind of snake is that!?

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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Julian Westerhout  wrote:
> 
> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this summer, 
> so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the Illinois and 
> Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our Rivendell HHH 
> -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly maintained in 
> places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and rougher, then 
> there was a missing bridge which required us to take the tandem down a muddy 
> bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind sole threw together 
> from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long section of limestone mud 
> with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled Roots brew pub in Ottawa, 
> IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the path on the return by taking 
> the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even if it isn't quite Cornwall, the 
> British Peak District or Scotland!
> 
> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
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Re: [RBW] Ride Photos: We Saw the Comet!

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You can always tell a randonneur by the acres of reflective materials! 

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> On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:27 PM, RichS  wrote:
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> Eric,
> 
> That looked like a fun evening. Impressive reflectivity. Your group was a 
> comet on earth:-)
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 8:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
> Saturday night a small coterie of cyclists set out to get as far away from 
> the city lights of Sacramento as we could in order to get a better view of 
> the comet. We rode to Clarksburg, a small town on the Sacramento River, where 
> a local restaurant/taproom stayed open long enough to give us some leftover 
> food and pour a few beers. 
> 
> We did see the comet (barely), but the best part of the evening was the quiet 
> and scenic road through the delta to Clarksburg and back. We stopped on the 
> way back for the obligatory Tower Bridge photo, which also highlights the 
> vast amount of reflective gear on us and our bikes! The first black-and-white 
> photo shows Tara Flanagan, an Alameda-based randonneuse, and her little dog, 
> Finn, who accompanies her on many of these rides.
> 
> I pulled into home at 1 am after a very nice night out.
> 
> Riv content: I was riding a very Riv-ish Soma (upright bars, twine-wrapped 
> and cork-gripped bars, etc.). 
> 
> The comet returns in 6,800 years. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Bike shorts/ Liners

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 Very thin. Benefit for me is that they stop friction between skin and bike 
shorts. Helps a lot on longer rides. 

–Eric N


> On Jul 28, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Joel Stern  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Eric.  Are they bulky?  Seems like the new thing in bike shorts is 
> massive padding.  
> 
> I will check these out. 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:09 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> Joel:
>> 
>> I wear I padded spandex liners with my cycling shorts. I find they help cut 
>> down on chafing. 
>> 
>> Adidas and Under Armor both make unpadded liners. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> –Eric N
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have been on the hunt for bike shorts or liners that had just that small  
>>> chamois like they had about 12 years ago. The only things I can find now 
>>> have a huge bad in the bottom that make it a very uncomfortable experience 
>>> to ride in. I would rather just ride in shorts and underwear than those 
>>> bulky things. I would consider spandex to put under shorts if I could find 
>>> some with a small chamois but they all see huge. 
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone had experience with the Grand Cru 110 Fluted Triple Crankset

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I have V-O cranks on several bikes. No problems at all.

Not up to TA standards, but very nice and reasonably priced.

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> On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Joel Stern  wrote:
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> I was going to buy a Sugino XD 600 but they are about the same price. I 
> figure the Grand Cru is made in Taiwan but am not sure, the Sugino probably 
> is as well.
> 
> Any experience or options? I have never dealt with Velo Orange but their 
> reputation seems to be good.
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> Thanks
> 
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Re: [RBW] The Quickbeam Rides Again!

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I recall someone with an early green Quickbeam had a failure where the seat 
tube enters the bottom bracket shell. Looked like it had rusted from the inside?

Fingers crossed, no problems with my first-gen QB, which has been everywhere 
and is still going strong.

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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Birdman  wrote:
> 
> There are stories, but it’s hard to know. Single speed frames have to contend 
> with a lot of forces, especially around the bottom bracket, and I would 
> imagine that larger riders on the larger frames could exasperate the 
> situation. On the other hand, my frame did have some manufacturing flaws...
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Re: [RBW] The Quickbeam Rides Again!

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At least the brazing held!

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> On Aug 4, 2020, at 11:34 AM, John G  wrote:
> 
> It me.
> 
> 
> 
> The orange replacement is still going strong.
> 
> John G, Union Bridge, MD
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 12:35:09 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
> I recall someone with an early green Quickbeam had a failure where the seat 
> tube enters the bottom bracket shell. Looked like it had rusted from the 
> inside?
> 
> Fingers crossed, no problems with my first-gen QB, which has been everywhere 
> and is still going strong.
> 
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[RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

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I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:



So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
related conspiracy theories.

Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.

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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

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Where Grant Goes, We Go All?

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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
>> decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
>> related conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
> 
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

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Not being a follower of Q, I wouldn’t know … Or is that what I would say if I 
WAS a follower of Q?

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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 11:49 AM, EricP  wrote:
> 
> Isn't the correct response "Pay attention 007?"
> 
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> 
> On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 10:59:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/10/20 11:37 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>> I was riding my Quickbeam yesterday, and it dawned on me that the seat tube 
>> decal might lead some to an incorrect conclusion:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, just to be clear: I am NOT a follower of “Q” or “Q Anon” or any of those 
>> related conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> Thanks. Just had to get that off my chest.
> 
> Isn't that exactly what you would say if you were "Q" himself?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Palincsar
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> USA
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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

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Quickbeam fans at a rally in Tennessee in 2018. 



They had gathered to demand the truth behind the demise several years earlier 
of the bike they affectionately call the “Q”-Beam (or just the “Q”), insisting 
that the switch to the SimpleOne was related to the creation of a “One" World 
State.

“It’s so obvious,” said one Q-Beam fan. “One day, there’s the Q, and the next 
there’s the same bike—the SAME BIKE—with a different name. Q was disappeared by 
the liberals in Walnutty Creek.”

Rivendell has responded officially to the allegations, although a spokesman 
posted on a pro-Rivendell subreddit that, “The truth is out there. Everything 
else is just #fakeblug.”

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> On Aug 11, 2020, at 4:39 AM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Everyone is " Q " . the joke is on the joke itself. 
> 
> What's going to happen  what happen-ed ... what's happen-ing . and 
> just who happens to ask and answer all these quests anyways ?
> 
> Ahahahahaha !'Tis I, the Q the Q of Me and I and You the question 
> , the answer and the wild woven web of endless Q-and-on's   you know ..
> 
> "The Story" ! 
> 
> What story ?  
> 
> Exactly . the one that keeps asking "what story"  ! 
> 
> Heeheehee  !
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Re: [RBW] Just to be Clear ... (On Rivendell and Crazy Conspiracy Theories)

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ve never seen a “peaceful looter” … please enlighten me.

Reparations is a valid topic of political discussion/disagreement, but I think 
all parties would agree that looting and burning has nothing to do with it.

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> On Aug 12, 2020, at 11:11 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Peaceful looters and rioters burn and loot cities, it's called reparation, 
> and when we break the rule to not talk politics, this is where we go? Sigh. 
> Hail Mary ...
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not specifically. Cost was about the same as shipping from a US vendor, as I 
recall. 

You should be able to estimate shipping on the Grand Bois web site before you 
order. 

–Eric N


> On Aug 15, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Ian A  wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> Do you recall what you were charged for postage?
> 
> Was just on the GB site and ordering direct seems convenient.
> 
> IanA Alberta Canada
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Re: [RBW] Kickstands and Clems

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Alex:

I have double Pletscher stand on my Soma Saga, which I’ve used a few times for 
lightly loaded touring (full panniers). It will easily hold up a bike weighing 
50+ pounds. 

Another plus: You can take out either the front or rear wheel to fix a flat, 
and the bike stays standing on the tripod that’s left (wheel + two kickstand 
legs).

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> On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Alex K  wrote:
> 
> Just got my Clem L rolling and I'm pretty smitten.  The handling on curves 
> and general comfort level are fairly astounding.  I do have a Nitto Campee 
> 34F with a hardware-less Wald 157 basket mounted on the front for larger 
> loads (laundry, pizza, etc.). What I'm wondering here is if anyone has any 
> experience with the double kickstand on a heavier/loaded bike.  I didn't love 
> the single Pletscher kickstand that came with the bike and am considering a 
> Pletscher or Velo Orange double stand.  Any thoughts?  Thanks for reading.  
> Alex
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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

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Joel:

There are many lights out there that will make you more visible to vehicles, 
but I wouldn’t bet my life on any of them. I believe there’s more safety in 
being aware of what’s happening around you at all times, wearing brightly 
colored/contrasting clothing, and assuming that motorists don’t see you.

If you *do* use lights bright enough to be seen in daylight, I beg you to think 
twice about using them at night. The new super-bright taillights, when used at 
night, make it impossible for anyone to ride behind you safely. All the person 
behind you can see is a bright red glow. 

I’ve ranted about this before, so I won’t go on much longer here. But … please 
be considerate of anyone behind you—and people coming at you on the bike trail 
and end up getting blasted by your daylight-bright headlight.

I recommend a taillight like the PDW “Daybot,” which offers a bright daytime 
option and a less bright (but still bright enough) nighttime setting that also 
provides longer runtimes (because no taillight will work with dead batteries).

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> On Aug 20, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Joel  wrote:
> 
> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight.  I a 
> interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your thoughts 
> and experiences are welcome.
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Joel
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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

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Amen, brother. Problem is that too many riders use “day-rated” lights in the 
dark.

Like anything else, with taillights there is a point at which you have too much 
of a good thing. No, you don’t need a taillight that’s visible from a mile away!

Regarding headlights, I always recommend a high-quality focused light like the 
Edelux, which has a cutoff beam (similar to modern car headlights) that limits 
the light that hits the eyes of oncoming cars and bicycles. Most American-made 
headlights have a conical beam (like a flashlight) that sends as much light up 
into ongoing eyes as it does down to the road. Peter White goes into this topic 
in extensive detail on his web site.

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> On Aug 20, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Erik Wright  wrote:
> 
> The Bontrager lights are BRIGHT day-rated lights; too bright for city riding 
> at night, in my opinion.

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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

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Amen, brother. 

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> On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:07 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> There is a waiting room in Hell with a bench reserved for cyclists who ride 
> in the dusk or dark of night with daytime flashing lights, reservations made 
> with the intently redeemable bad karma their harm did to other cyclists 
> trying to follow them.

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Re: [RBW] Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

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Joe:

I’ve got two browser tabs open with air quality information for the Sacramento 
area. We’re currently in the Moderate range, which is the best I’ve seen for a 
few days.

This brings back memories of life in Southern California, where I would need to 
check the AQI reading during warm weather. When I moved up here to NorCal, the 
air quality was better, but I found myself checking the weather radar much more 
often.

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> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> The air is just miserable here in Novato with an AQI of 155. Yesterday we 
> were getting blowing smoke that made it seem like something was on fire just 
> down the street, but it was the wind from Point Reyes.
> 
> I can't emphasize enough that you guys can't be out in this. I've seen 
> several reports around the onlines of people trying to ride or run and this 
> is just not a good plan, we all need to be inside with windows closed as much 
> as possible. Listen to your pal Joe!
> 
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 5:06:37 AM UTC-7 SurlyProf wrote:
> Firefighters have been getting a break in the weather and things seem to be 
> improving.We just received notice that the evacuation zone was reduced 
> and is moving away from us.  Nice to see some green show up on that map.  
> Until today's notice we were about a mile and a half from Cal Fire's 
> evacuation zone for the Del Puerto (LCU Complex?) fires that have been 
> burning in the east and south bay areas (over 350,000 acres!).  Our bags have 
> been packed and by the front door all weekend.  It has been stressful since 
> this is the closest we've ever come to being evacuated for wildfires.  I 
> really feel for those who have actually had to leave their homes.  As Ash 
> showed, the air's been awful for about a week or more now!  Our first day of 
> classes were canceled even though we are teaching on Zoom.  The air was too 
> unhealthy and too many people have been evacuated.  A colleague has been 
> teaching her class from her car in a Whole Foods parking lot just for the 
> WiFi.  Last night the moon was less orange and we could see stars in the sky 
> again.  Hopefully, that bodes well for all-day Zoom teaching today.  Between 
> teaching on Zoom and the smoke, our throats have been raw by the end of the 
> day.
> 
> Got out for a ride on Friday.  Took the COVID mask off for a while because no 
> one was around.  I ended up putting it back on because of the smoke made my 
> lungs burn.  Guess the mask wearing is paying off in multiple ways the past 
> week or so.  
> 
> Our best wishes go out to those who have had to evacuate.  
> 
> John
> Niles, CA (southeast of Global Warming, CA)
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:05:45 AM UTC-7 Ash wrote:
> 
> The smoke situation in South Bay Area keeps changing between bad and very bad.
> 
> These pictures are from a trail I frequent.  Before the fire vs yesterday.  
> 
> My heart goes out to folks with respiratory issues and those who live near 
> the mountains.  It is a very very scary situation.   
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Re: [RBW] Advice on odor removal from B-17 please

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I’ve had very good results using bags of activated charcoal stuffed into a pair 
of cycling shoes that started smelling bad:

https://www.amazon.com/Nature-Fresh-Air-Purifier-Bags/dp/B085VH36Y1/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3CTBDMJJ5MJGB&dchild=1&keywords=activated+charcoal+bags&qid=1598627845&sprefix=activated+charcoal+capsules%2Caps%2C329&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUE3TUM1MEk0WjZFNU4mZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2NjAzNzI2QjU1MlMyR1RTJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1NjQ3MTMyMVFJQlpaTTY4SUxXJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
 


Strap a few of these to the saddle and put it in a bag as Dorothy suggests and 
you should find that the odor is diminished.

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
> 
> I would say if cleaning the surface doesn’t suffice, put 1/4 to 1/2 cup 
> diatomaceous earth in a small cloth bag, hang it off the saddle rails and 
> wrap the whole thing in a plastic bag to let it absorb. You might get away 
> with just powdering it, but it might cling to the leather. 
> 
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 11:08:41 PM UTC-7 Joseph Tousignant wrote:
> Well that stinks!  (sorry, couldn't resist :-) 
> 
> Seriously though,  liberally rubbing in some Brooks Proofhide on the top may 
> loosen much of the offending molecules and offending olfactory updrafts. Wait 
> an hour or so and wipe off as much as you can with several paper towels.  
> Hopefully much of the offending sweat will come off along with the excess 
> Proofhide. Might try this twice,...for stubborn cases.
> 
>   There is also a leather "cleaner" I've used called "Meguiar's Gold Class 
> Rich Leather Cleaner/Conditioner"  that might do the job (Since 1901,...so 
> it's been around a LONG time!)  I've never used it on my bicycle saddles 
> though,...just on several leather binocular cases and on my Mazda MX-5 Miata 
> 2 seater leather seats.  In you case, I'd probably try this first. I bought 
> my 14 ounce bottle at a Pep Boys or Auto Zone Store several years ago.
> 
> 
> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 1:31:03 AM UTC-4 John P. in SF wrote:
> Apologies for cross-posting, to SFR members
> 
> I recently purchased a fine used Brooks B-17 saddle from a 'friend' and have 
> been enjoying it.
> 
> However.
> 
> I found myself checking my personal glandular areas for odor when near my 
> bike pile, thinking that perhaps I have eaten something or took a shirt or 
> pair of boxers from the wrong pile that day. After a few confirming sniffs I 
> looked elsewhere and easily found the offending source, my newly acquired 
> B-17.
> 
> Any tips for odor removal from the newbies or anciennes? 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> John P in SF, who thought he smelled a bargain and got more than he wanted.
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Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

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Matthew:

I have used a helmet-mounted mirror for decades. In my opinion, going out 
without a mirror is like driving a car with a rear view mirror—not smart. I 
check it constantly to maintain “situational awareness” of the vehicles on the 
road around me, including this approaching from behind. Being able to quickly 
glance to check approaching traffic before I steer around a pothole or debris 
is much easier than swiveling my head to look back.

My favorite is the Third Eye Pro, which has larger mirror than some others. 
Look for a secure adjustment system that keeps the mirror oriented in the face 
of bumps and wind.

--Eric Norris
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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Matthew Williams 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm thinking about getting a small, bar-mounted rearview mirror. For the past 
> forty-five years I've ridden without one and I'm in the habit of constantly 
> checking my surroundings, but after riding in traffic for several months I'm 
> thinking a mirror might be a good idea.
> 
> Do you use a mirror, or is it unnecessary? Does it help, or is it just a 
> gadget that isn't a substitute for turning your head? What are your 
> recommendations for rearview mirrors? 
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Re: [RBW] Sellers, post your full emails

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

To All:

Taking a quick break from my work-at-home activities to express a bit of 
puzzlement. I’ve been on this list for years, and for years I’ve seen messages 
about people who try to respond to the person who posted a message but couldn’t 
for some reason. I *think* this is all based on issues in the online version of 
Google Groups, right?

You all know that you can get all of this stuff sent to you in you email inbox, 
yes? You get an email that is the same as the post on Google Groups, which 
comes with the email of the sender/poster in it. Then you use your email 
program to compose a message back. Quick and easy. I’ve done it this way since 
… forever.

Am I missing something? Are these people philosophically averse to using email? 
You don’t *have* email? You only want to interact with the RBW Group online? 

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. It’s just that the same problem comes 
up over and over and over again, and the solution is so easy.

OK, back to work for me. 

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> On Sep 3, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>Yep, I'm logged in Jim.  I can switch between the classic and new group 
> formats at will. I use Firefox desktop only w/Linux Mint. I just tried it 
> with Chrome also, no go there too. Classic view I can reply to author, new 
> view I cannot, as I showed in the photo I sent you. In fact, I could not have 
> even got to that point unless I was logged in. I've reported it google so 
> many times I lost count, so I do wonder if such reports are even read.  I do 
> find it a bit comical though, having permission to not have permission ! 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:52:48 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
> As a follow up to my follow up:
> 
> - I've confirmed that "Reply to author" was authorized in the group settings.
> 
> But in doing so, did notice that "Reply to author" is open only to group 
> members (set that way on purpose).
> 
> I'm wondering if those of you who have experienced issues with this may have 
> been logged out of the group - in other words, viewing it from another 
> email/google ID which is not recognized as the member ID.
> 
> Since a few of you have had trouble only in mobile, I'm curious if that's a 
> vector. 
> 
> Can you confirm that you are actually logged into the group when this is not 
> functioning?
> 
> Again - thanks.
> 
> - J
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:45:52 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
> As a quick follow up - I've received several screen shots which have me 
> covered. Thanks!
> 
> Have send a request/bug report/trouble ticket thingy and will hopefully have 
> some understanding of the issue.
> 
> Probably some nested setting lodged under an innocuous arrow or 
> three-dot-link.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> - Jim / list admin
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Re: [RBW] Sellers, post your full emails

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have my personal emails in a window in a monitor separate from where most of 
my “work” happens. I glance over once in a while to see if anything looks 
interesting.

As I recall, you can opt to receive one email a day or one per week(?) Downside 
there is you’ll miss that sweet deal that somebody offered.

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> On Sep 3, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Erik Wright  wrote:
> 
> I just don't want my inbox blown up with every response to every thread, even 
> if it's filtered to a separate RBW Bunch folder or something like that. I 
> enjoy the interface of clicking through threads as I please in addition to 
> reading threads in a descending order and having the thread confined to one 
> space- things come across clearer to me that way, rather than sorta getting 
> my emails mixed up / out of order. In fact one of the first things I did when 
> I joined the group was turn off email notifications entirely, other than PMs.
> 
> It's not a huge deal, and if Google Groups stuff doesn't get sorted then 
> maybe I will move to emails, I just also read emails all damn day at work and 
> appreciate the respite. Not the end of the world, I just prefer the web 
> interface. That said, maybe I just don't use email filters correctly.
> 
> Erik, Philly
> 
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 5:25:41 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> To All:
> 
> Taking a quick break from my work-at-home activities to express a bit of 
> puzzlement. I’ve been on this list for years, and for years I’ve seen 
> messages about people who try to respond to the person who posted a message 
> but couldn’t for some reason. I *think* this is all based on issues in the 
> online version of Google Groups, right?
> 
> You all know that you can get all of this stuff sent to you in you email 
> inbox, yes? You get an email that is the same as the post on Google Groups, 
> which comes with the email of the sender/poster in it. Then you use your 
> email program to compose a message back. Quick and easy. I’ve done it this 
> way since … forever.
> 
> Am I missing something? Are these people philosophically averse to using 
> email? You don’t *have* email? You only want to interact with the RBW Group 
> online? 
> 
> Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. It’s just that the same problem 
> comes up over and over and over again, and the solution is so easy.
> 
> OK, back to work for me. 
> 
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> 
>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Garth > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>>  
>> 
>>Yep, I'm logged in Jim.  I can switch between the classic and new group 
>> formats at will. I use Firefox desktop only w/Linux Mint. I just tried it 
>> with Chrome also, no go there too. Classic view I can reply to author, new 
>> view I cannot, as I showed in the photo I sent you. In fact, I could not 
>> have even got to that point unless I was logged in. I've reported it google 
>> so many times I lost count, so I do wonder if such reports are even read.  I 
>> do find it a bit comical though, having permission to not have permission ! 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:52:48 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>> As a follow up to my follow up:
>> 
>> - I've confirmed that "Reply to author" was authorized in the group settings.
>> 
>> But in doing so, did notice that "Reply to author" is open only to group 
>> members (set that way on purpose).
>> 
>> I'm wondering if those of you who have experienced issues with this may have 
>> been logged out of the group - in other words, viewing it from another 
>> email/google ID which is not recognized as the member ID.
>> 
>> Since a few of you have had trouble only in mobile, I'm curious if that's a 
>> vector. 
>> 
>> Can you confirm that you are actually logged into the group when this is not 
>> functioning?
>> 
>> Again - thanks.
>> 
>> - J
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:45:52 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>> As a quick follow up - I've received several screen shots which have me 
>> covered. Thanks!
>> 
>> Have send a request/bug report/trouble ticket thingy and will hopefully have 
>> some understanding of the issue.
>> 
>> Probably some nested setting lodged under an innocuous arrow or 
>> three-dot-link.
>> 
>> Thank you again.
>> 
>> - Jim / list admin
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Re: [RBW] Soma San Marcos (54cm)

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Seller’s email: dgodfr...@gmail.com  

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> On Sep 8, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Nick Ybarra  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan.  I'm very interested in this lovely bike, but am unable to figure 
> out how to reply privately to you in the new Google Groups setup.  Can you 
> provide the saddle height (to top of saddle) in the pics?  Thanks,
> 
> -Nick in ATX (nybarra at gmail dot com)
> 
> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 9:37:30 PM UTC-5 Dan Godfrey wrote:
> Hey All, 
> 
> Selling this stallion. Lugged steel frame designed by Grant Petersen of 
> Rivendell, produced by Soma. Thin(ish) Tange Prestige tubing, Rivendell lugs, 
> beautiful blue paint, 650b model (v2.5). Awesome bike, selling because I've 
> finally admitted that the fit isn't right for me. Currently built up as a 
> fast rando with extralight tires, black nitto front rack, etc. Frame is in 
> good condition, light cosmetic dings pictured in photos. This bike is fast, 
> smooth, beautiful and versatile. Currently running Compass/Rene Herse 650b 
> 38mm Loup Loup Pass Extralight tires, but previously mounted 42mm tires. 
> 
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/36BpArLnfYB4cM2G7 
>  
> Geometry/Info: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set 
>  
> Grant's Description of the V1: 
> http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf 
> 
> 
> Parts:
> Full Ultegra (Brifters, long cage rear derailleur) 
> *Dura Ace front derailleur 
> Ultegra 11-32 cassette 
> Ultegra Chain 
> Thomson Elite Seatpost 
> Nitto stem
> Soma Highway One Handlebar, 44mm
> Bontrager crankset
> Tektro R559 Brakes
> Ultegra Hubs
> Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss lightweight spokes
> Compass/RH Loup Loup Pass 38mm Extralight tires
> Nitto front rack (black)
> 
> $1400. Feel free to contact me with comments or questions. Bike comes without 
> pedals or seat, but I can toss in a seat if necessary. Shipping possible, 
> local sale possible. Let's talk. 
> 
> Dan in Seattle
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[RBW] Blowout

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Matthew:

When you say the “rim was bent,” do you mean that 

1) the wheel is out of true, and the entire rim is moving to one side and 
hitting the brake pad, or

2) the rim is straight, but one side is bent out? 

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Re: [RBW] Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

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Moderate air quality here in Carmichael/Sacramento right now, but pollution 
levels have been all over the place recently. Reminds me of Stage 2 smog alert 
days growing up in Southern California. Everything here was sepia colored 
yesterday.

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> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I’ve been seeing the photos that Rivendell has been posting of the 
> land during the fires and the best word to describe it was Will’s...which was 
> “hellscape.” 
> 
> And it’s not just CA on fire, but now several states in the West. It’s all a 
> lot to take. How is everyone? Are you guys all safe out there? How’s your 
> breathing? What about your homes? 
> 
> Gosh, I’m just so sorry. Let us know how you’re doing.
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed gear dropouts and fenders

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I just deflate the tire. 

–Eric N


> On Sep 10, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> New wheel with Phil Wood hub. Screws unscrew all the way and the wheel drops 
> out or do what Bones suggests.
> 
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
> 
>> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 4:04:59 PM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Speaking to the Simple One / Quickbeam owners out there (or anyone else with 
>> this experience)- is there a trick to rear wheel removal with rear-facing 
>> horizontal dropouts when you have fenders mounted? I recently set up a 
>> Mercier Kilo WT as my city bike, which is basically a track bike with 
>> clearance for big tires and fenders. I'm running 700x35 tires with SKS P50 
>> (or 45?) fenders.
>> 
>> Once I got my fenders mounted, I realized I can't easily get the rear wheel 
>> out without deflating the tire. I know VO makes the "spring thing" for 
>> addressing fender alignment with forward-facing horizontal dropouts, but is 
>> there any trick to getting a good fender line with rear-facing dropouts 
>> while also being able to easily remove the wheel? Almost like the rear 
>> equivalent of a spring thing...
>> 
>> Erik, Philly
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Re: [RBW] FS: Classic Style Riv-ish Sunglasses

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They are not. 

–Eric N


> On Sep 11, 2020, at 11:24 PM, 'John O'shea' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you happen to know if these are polarized?
> 
> Thanks,
> John O'shea
> Lexington KY
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 11:37 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> FS: Pair of classic sunglasses like Rivendell used to sell (in fact, I 
>> *think* one of these came from Rivendell). Quality safety-rated lenses and 
>> frames. One pair has dark green lenses, the other is dark grey. Worn a few 
>> times. 
>> 
>> $15 each shipped in the USA or $25 for both.
>> 
>> Pics:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Kevin's Bag Tan, with Beausage

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SOLD! On its way back home to Walnut Creek!

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> On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:03 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice condition, but it can be seen that it was used and loved. Accompanied me 
> on Wheels North in 2009, when friends and I retraced the 1,100-mile route of 
> two young riders who rode from Santa Rosa, CA, to Seattle to visit the Alaska 
> Yukon Pacific Exposition of 1909.
> 
> Hasn’t seen much use since then, so it deserves to be back on the road. No 
> tears or damage. Leather straps in great condition.
> 
> $75 shipped in the USA.
> 
> 
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[RBW] FS: Pair of New Panaracer Pari-Moto 650B Tires

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$65 shipped in the USA. Brand new with tags, never used. A little dusty from 
hanging out in the Bike Room.

Size: 27.5 x 1.5 inches, or 650B x 38mm. This is the wire bead, not foldable 
version.

Photos on request.

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[RBW] FS: Pair of Schwalbe "Little Big Ben" Tires

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700x38 in a cool, reddish color. Very lightly used. Came on a bike and were 
removed almostly immediately and replaced with other tires. Wire bead.

$40 shipped in the CONUS.







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Re: [RBW] Check out this cool new handlebar bag!

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When will the adapters for traditional (26, 25.4) handlebars be available? Nice 
bag, but useless to me and many other list members without them.

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> On Sep 22, 2020, at 7:39 AM, S. Greco  wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> I've been working on this new bag design for a long time.
> I'm sorry if posting this violates any rules here :)
> I don't think I would have taken on this project without a certain type of 
> inspiration that has come largely from Rivendell and this group in particular 
> over the years. 
> Launching today on Kickstarter !!! 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Your lockable commuter thread

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Patrick:

Patrick:

The Motobecane stills sees regular use, now as a three-speed weekend rider. 
Rode it last night, as a matter of fact. 

There is indeed something about that bike that makes it a bunch of fun to ride. 
I’m sure the Reynolds 531 tubing has a lot to do with that—I’ve never been 
disappointed with a bike built with 531.

Still the original paint, although I put on some wipe-on clear coat from 3M to 
preserve the patina. I like the scuffs and scratches, which make for worry-free 
parking.

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> On Sep 22, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> That Atala reminds me of the old, 1973 IIRC, Motobecane Grand Record that I 
> used as a grocery and errand beater. Light, 531 frame and fork, but long 
> stays (45 cm to end of dropout). Original paint was not the best, and 30+ 
> years had weathered it, so somewhat stealthy. Built it with good but 
> inexpensive parts into fixed gear load carrier; oddly, best load carrier I've 
> owned despite it's light frame; better than much stouter frames. 67" gear got 
> me up even steep hills (back then, as a feisty 50-something). 
> 
> Oh, and the old early Raleigh Technium sports touring model that I owned just 
> before the Motobecane: tank despite the bonded aluminum construction, flexy, 
> but Cadillac ride with (then seemed very fat) 32 mm Vittoria clinchers.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:11 AM Pete P  > wrote:
> My Atala.  Riv’d it up with old parts and even tried out those upright 
> albatross handlebars. That is what converted me from uncomfortable road bars 
> on my Atlantis (to choco bars- similar)
> 
> I like to use this bike if going downtown Minneapolis or at the home despot 
> store. I do use cable to capture the saddle and wheel and a kryptonite for 
> the frame front wheel and to the rack. If I lost it to a thief I’d be sad but 
> I only ride within a 5 mile walking distance away.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:37:16 AM UTC-5 foolis...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Well said Carl. Well said.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 4:24 PM tuolumne bikes > wrote:
> 
> With apologies to anyone that's already seen enough of Herbie on Instagram. 
> All that's left of his original life is headset, fork and frame. The original 
> equipment was five speed indexed. Now it's solid seven speed friction. While 
> I wouldn't ride it to Tibet, this is my most comfortable riding and handling 
> bike, and it's been all over, even on tour. 
> 
> The timing of this thread is great for a reminder that Weds September 23 is 
> the 2nd Annual Be Kind to Your Beater Bike Day. Fix, clean, upgrade, or do a 
> great ride on your most basic bike and post with #bekindtoyourbeaterbikeday  
> This year BKYBBD lines up well with the northern California reschedules of 
> Bike to Work Day as Bike to Anywhere Day on 9/24. It also could fit in with 
> Adventure Cycling Association's Bike Your Park Day and Bike Travel Weekend 
> which are 9/25-9/27. 
> 
> If the air quality allows, and I can still ride up hills, Herbie will be 
> hauling a pizza and thermos of tea to the top of Sonora Pass. Herb will get a 
> new Tuolumne 108 sticker as a memento. The idea is to remember that even 
> modest bikes can do great things. If we want biking to be more inclusive, we 
> need to remember that not everyone can afford the spectacular bikes we love 
> so much. Best way to celebrate? Support your local coop or community bike 
> shop and their efforts to make biking more available and inviting for all.
> 
> Thanks, Carl
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

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Legend has it that Sachs designed lugs for Bridgestone that ended up being used 
on the first Road Standards. Any truth to that?

–Eric N


> On Sep 28, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:
> 
> 
> That bb shell w/shelf-wing design isn't uncommon, fwiw, and the one on 
> Patrick's frame isn't the same shell as the Richard Sachs bb. Richard has 
> been designing his own lugs for a long time now, but I'm not very familiar 
> with who his suppliers have been over the years. So I don't know who made the 
> bb shell in Eric's frame, but it's almost certainly an exclusive Sachs design.
> 
> Maxway is a Taiwanese framebuilding company, but I don't think they make 
> their own lugs. They're the go-to shop in Taiwan for higher-end steel frame 
> mfr. They made the Kogswells, wouldn't be surprised if that's who Riv is 
> using for their Taiwan production. The recent Raleigh Team Pro 40th 
> Anniv/Tribute frameset is made by Maxway.
> 
> The two better-/best-known lug mfrs in Taiwan are Allotec and Long Shen. I 
> don't know much about Allotec, but the 40th Anniv Raleigh Team Pro uses lugs 
> made by Allotec.
> 
> Long Shen was/is better known, I think, but it seems like they're 
> closing/closed. Riv said something about "a sister company" taking over 
> production so they weren't worried. Richard Sachs said he placed a "big m-f 
> order" with Long Shen when he heard the news. He did not abbreviate "m-f." 
> 
> Long Shen was making the current Sachs lugs, dropouts and probably other 
> frame fittings as well, but they were/are Richard's own designs. He owns the 
> molds/tooling, so potentially he could find someone else to make them, but he 
> ordered enough to likely last till his last hurrah.
> 
> Long Shen made lugs for other folks, too, so those folks would have had to 
> scramble to fine new suppliers. The Pacenti lugs/drops, now owned by 
> Framebuilder Supply, were from both Long Shen and Allotec. 
> 
> I _think_ there's still cast lugs being made in Japan. I'm pretty sure that's 
> where Mark DiNucci gets his lugs/bits made.
> 
> Many years ago I visited Nikko Lugs in Japan, with Trek's big (in many senses 
> of the word) buyer Fred Drenhouse (RIP). Fred was so big/tall many just 
> called him "Big Fred." To me he was Fred De House. Sorry for the drift. Nikko 
> still seems to be in business, still making lugs, but they're a bulge-forming 
> company, don't think they do casting. That bb design has to be cast, can't 
> get that wing with bulge-forming, afaik.
> 
> Richard Sachs designed some lugs for Grant @ BS USA in the early '90s, with 
> Grant intending Nikko to make them for the RB series. Don't know if those 
> ever went into production.
> 
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>> Not saying they made the frame, just the lug.
>> 
>> Laing
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>> Pretty sure that is an "M" for Maxway.
>>> I have that same feature on my Maxway single speed frame. I believe that 
>>> they made some frames for Rivendell at some point, located in Taiwan.
>>> 
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>> 
 On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:48:06 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
 There’s a maker whose name starts with “W” (can’t recall the name at the 
 moment) who makes BB shells like that. My Richard Sachs has one:
 
 
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>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:
>> 
> Hey Patrick,
> 
> My frame doesn't have the Little Wing (Well she's walking/thru the 
> clouds...), but I'm pretty sure what you've got there is a cast bb shell, 
> with the wing integral to the casting. Can't remember who makes it, but 
> I've seen 'em before.
> 
> Oh, and I bit the bullet and changed the front rim strip as well. Then 
> the tube burst in the stand, pulling it I saw it had already gotten 
> distorted/damaged by the Velox tape, so it was waiting for fail.
> 
> It should be said, though, that the tubes are Q-Tubes Extralights, made 
> by Kenda, which I have used for years without any particular problems. 
> But over the past year or two I've had more than a few rim-side failures 
> with these. Fortunately usually not on the road. Kinda feel like I maybe 
> fell into a bad batch.
> 
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
> 
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 2:58:37 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Please let us have more ride reports after you get the new bike sorted. 
>> 
>> Curious: Did Joe S braze a wee little "wing" strut between chainstay 
>> lugs just aft of seat tube and forward of cs bridge? He did on my 1999 
>> gofast fixie custom (half-assed photo attached).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM Paul Brodek  wrote:
>>> So I a

Re: [RBW] Picked this up today

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Joel:

Can you please send some of that rain to California?

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> On Oct 1, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Joel S  wrote:
> 
> <15D2EF10-DFC2-462F-8323-8C639D705551.jpeg><580733A7-64B8-4EC1-98AD-5D85C285F5BA.jpeg>The
>  Atlantis and I had a very short affair, it has arrived at it’s new home back 
> in CA.  I picked up this leftover 51cm Sam Hillborne from the Psychic 
> Derailleur and just got it back from the shop built up.  I had to make a few 
> adjustments, normal stuff, saddle height, bar height and angle, get the water 
> bottle cage on and finally get a chance to put an old nitto rear rack on.  If 
> it dies not rain tomorrow as predicted a nice ride, if it does the bars get 
> many coats of shellac and turn a nice chocolate color.  
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[RBW] WTB: 700x30-ish Tires

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Anybody have a pair of lightly used 700x30 or 700x32 tires available? Something 
like a Rene Herse “Stampede Pass”?

Let me know whatcha got and what you think they’re worth.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

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Thanks to everyone who has built wheels successfully for chiming in on this. 
I’ve always viewed building wheels as the kind of thing I want a trusted 
professional doing. I have a couple of top-notch wheelbuilders I trust who have 
built thousands of wheels. Building my own always seemed a little like home 
surgery—better to go to a pro.

OTOH, I started processing color film during Quarantine, which is something I 
resisted doing for years. Great results so far (but the consequences of failure 
are a poorly developed negative, not a wheel disintegrating on the way down a 
mountain).

Hearing that others have built successfully with basic tools is empowering. I 
may have to try it myself.

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> I have threatened to build my own wheels for a number of years. Finally, this 
> year, with the addition of a few Rivendell framesets that needed wider rims 
> than I could filch from my stack of vintage stuff, I went for it. 
> 
> I have had good success with Roger Musson's A Professional Guide to 
> Wheelbuilding. You can download a copy for about $10 I believe.  Lots of 
> good, straightforward instructions, advice, and tips. I had a question on a 
> recent build (my bmx tribute wheels for my Susie!!)  and he replied via email 
> within the hour. He breaks it down nicely so that my brain doesn't get 
> overwhelmed. I like following the directions and having everything work out! 
> The first pair I built are going strong, no adjustment needed. It's really 
> very satisfying once you take the plunge. Sneak peek of my Susie hoops: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:25:58 AM UTC-4, Steven Seelig wrote:
> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that I 
> haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge too 
> far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I can 
> at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride in the 
> means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
> 
> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a competent 
> wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once for the 
> first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds for 
> success?  Will I quit in frustration?
> 
> Points of view encouraged.
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Re: [RBW] Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

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No, I got the frame and a few other bits. I found a pretty cheap set of 
pre-built wheels which have held up pretty well, probably due in part to the 
deep-section rims.

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Eric: Did I sell the fixed wheel to you along with the Motobecane? If so, I 
> wonder how well it stood up to your high mileage. That was the one wheel I've 
> built.
> 
> If I didn't sell it to you, I wonder where the heck it went?
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who has built wheels successfully for chiming in on this. 
> I’ve always viewed building wheels as the kind of thing I want a trusted 
> professional doing. I have a couple of top-notch wheelbuilders I trust who 
> have built thousands of wheels. Building my own always seemed a little like 
> home surgery—better to go to a pro.
> 
> OTOH, I started processing color film during Quarantine, which is something I 
> resisted doing for years. Great results so far (but the consequences of 
> failure are a poorly developed negative, not a wheel disintegrating on the 
> way down a mountain).
> 
> Hearing that others have built successfully with basic tools is empowering. I 
> may have to try it myself.
> 
> --Eric Norris
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> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Mark Roland > <mailto:absolutegal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have threatened to build my own wheels for a number of years. Finally, 
>> this year, with the addition of a few Rivendell framesets that needed wider 
>> rims than I could filch from my stack of vintage stuff, I went for it. 
>> 
>> I have had good success with Roger Musson's A Professional Guide to 
>> Wheelbuilding. You can download a copy for about $10 I believe.  Lots of 
>> good, straightforward instructions, advice, and tips. I had a question on a 
>> recent build (my bmx tribute wheels for my Susie!!)  and he replied via 
>> email within the hour. He breaks it down nicely so that my brain doesn't get 
>> overwhelmed. I like following the directions and having everything work out! 
>> The first pair I built are going strong, no adjustment needed. It's really 
>> very satisfying once you take the plunge. Sneak peek of my Susie hoops: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:25:58 AM UTC-4, Steven Seelig wrote:
>> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that I 
>> haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge too 
>> far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I can 
>> at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride in the 
>> means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>> 
>> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a competent 
>> wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once for the 
>> first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds for 
>> success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>> 
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[RBW] Attention Bleriot Owners!

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Got the bike? Get the plane!

Offered for sale is this high quality due-cast model of Louis Blériot in his 
eponymous monoplane, looking as though he’s flying over the English Channel. 

Perfect for the Bleriot owner who has everything (except a scale model of the 
Bleriot plane).

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Re: [RBW] Running a Mark's rack/basket....AND a handlebar bag?!?!?!

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I guess I missed this the first time, but it looks like the strap is there to 
keep the rack itself from bouncing around? I ask because I’m amazed that the 
rack would have that much movement. 

I see you’ve zip-tied the basket to the rack, so the problem isn’t with the 
basket moving around?

If the strap is to keep the *basket* from moving, and the rack itself is 
stable, then I would use some thick zip-ties between the basket and the 
“tombstone” part of the rack.

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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Andrew Letton  wrote:
> 
> One thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet: I would be afraid that a strap 
> that runs around the head tube, as you have shown, would abrade the paint and 
> edges of the headbadge, especially when the strap picks up a little road 
> grit/grime. If I wanted to run a strap, I would wrap it around the bottom of 
> the stem, right above the headset, which rotates along with the fork/rack so 
> there would not be any tendency to grind up the pain job.
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
> 
> On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 3:54:22 AM UTC+11 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here's a photo of what I'm thinking about doing with the strap and head 
> tube...
> 
> The strap is looped through each side of the tombstone twice...once through 
> and around the head tube on the opposite side, and then once though the 
> inside of the tombstone and back on the same side of the head tube (if that 
> makes sense).
> 
> It's snug...but my two concerns are...
> 1. it won't stop the rack/basket from crashing into the front wheel if the 
> rack fails (I'm not a physics person...but I'm guessing there's more holding 
> power vertically than horizontally)
> 2. The strap is going to dull up or rub off the paint on the head tube.
> 
> HOWEVER...as I was typing this, I found this...
> https://13507435628737481763.googlegroups.com/attach/26c66c05ba4e4/IMG_1683.JPG?part=0.2&view=1&vt=ANaJVrEq-9QnruTkMcmxuNN9WRRDupm4Sh5lxv-I6NA_WVq9zMoW7YG8PJm6dkg0zmWGvc0jPMXrF4yVRs-NP2B3aA4xDxxQ3P78klLrAgHSI79Llf-AOr8
>  
> 
> 
> It looks like lashing the tombstone to the head tube has been an option for 
> at least Soma and their "Manny Strap". I'm guessing I'm okay with it the way 
> I have it.
> 
> Right? 
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
> Hey all!
> I recently set up my Atlantis with a Mark's rack and medium Walk zip-tied to 
> it. I double strutted the rack and have the Irish strap connecting the 
> tombstone to the bars (Chocos). 
> 
> I have an x-small saddle sack that I love and was offered a matching one at a 
> great price. I love the way the x-small sack looks/fits on my handlebars, but 
> I'm having some serious issues figuring out how to strap the tombstone for 
> support while having a handlebar bag.
> 
> One solution I might have is to strap the tombstone to the headtube 
> horizontally. I did it a minute ago and looped the Irish strap a bunch of 
> times and tightened it up. Is this good enough for supporting the rack if the 
> tange fails? Will the strap on the frame rub off the paint or top/clear coat? 
> 
> Any ideas on how to have both a Mark's rack and x-small handlebar bag are 
> welcome. 
> 
> For what it's worth...I don't plan on ever exceeding the 4 pound 
> recommendation on the rack. I've used it to carry my 3 pound laptop and 
> charger (with a Captain Hook), to grab a 3 pound bag of groceries, etc...I 
> may push it to a six pack of beer, but I have a rear rack and panniers if I 
> need to carry anything heavy. 
> 
> Thanks!
> Ben
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Re: [RBW] head badges

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I’ve used this successful in similar applications:

https://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-Exterior-Mounting-Tape-Holds/dp/B4Z4BV/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1JKVL6O7M6U5E&dchild=1&keywords=3m+double+sided+tape+heavy+duty&qid=1605307721&sprefix=3m+%2Caps%2C232&sr=8-20
 


Designed for outdoor use, so it won’t fall off if it gets wet.

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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> According to the PDF catalog on their website, Rivendell uses "double stick 
> tape" to put the headbadges on. Maybe some digging on 3M's website might turn 
> up a good solution.,
> 
> Ben
> 
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 4:40 PM Brian Witt  > wrote:
> Hi allin my stable of bikes I have a Bob Jackson touring.  As you may 
> have heard, they are closing up shop. I managed to buy  a  cast  head badge 
> for my bike to replace the decal, and i noticed the head badge on my 
> Rivendell Quickbeam is attached with some sort of adhesive (i  think...)... 
> The Bob Jackson  badge came with two very small screws does anybody have 
> an idea about what sort of adhesive The guys at Rivendell use?  I could drill 
> and tap the head tube but i am not confident enough to try! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 630 wheel size

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630mm is the same as 27-inch? See this:

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/630.html

–Eric N


> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:09 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> 630mm is the actual diameter of the rim nominally known as 27", you see it 
> on a lot of '70s 10-speeds and most of those use centerpulls. 622 is what we 
> call 700c and would be the closest size you could try and possibly get the 
> brake pads to reach. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 7:51:57 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
>> I am a little confused on what a 630 wheel size is and if the frame hase 
>> center pull brakes and is designed around such a size is it convertible to 
>> 650 b or 700 or 26?
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Re: [RBW] Ideas needed for offseting front rack from exposed cable

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I’ll just chime in to say that the Nitto bag support is indeed very nice. 
Here’s a photo of the Nitto part holding up a small (Acorn) bag on my 1972 
Cinelli:



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> On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have  suggestions for something to "offset" a front handlebar bag 
> from rubbing on the front exposed cable?  
> 
> With John H's help, we found this 
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-f16-front-handlebar-hook-bag-supporter-bag-part-nitto--870-288-10/p
>  
> 
>  , but it's a bit pricey.  The support "shelf" is nice but not required.
> 
> I'm not interested in a permanently fixed item. as I'd move it from Riv to 
> Riv.  Other than the price, I like this item.
> 
> Thanks,
> Roberta
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Re: [RBW] Ideas needed for offseting front rack from exposed cable

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Roberta:

If you go with the Nitto rack, be sure that the bag is supported by the straps, 
not the rack. It can hold a little weight, but its main purpose is to keep the 
bag from moving around.

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> On Nov 18, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> Here's the bag pic.
> 
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 10:53:26 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
> Thank you John, Joe, Brian and Eric!
> 
> I have two bags but I don't think this one is deep enough to cause a rubbing 
> issue:  Carradice Zippered Roll,   
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/bags/saddle-packs-sqr-bags/originals-zipped-roll 
> 
>   
> 
> It's this VO bag that I got from a member here that I'm concerned about.I 
> bought it because I can use it without a decaleur.  The bag part is about 7" 
> deep, but it could hang lower after attachment.   My other Riv is a Joe 
> Appaloosa with V Brakes, but Joe makes a good point that I wouldn't want a 
> bag marring the head tube.
> 
> Eric, that's an interesting look at the item.  John H. also gave it a thumbs 
> up for quality.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 5:35:39 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com 
>  wrote:
> I’ll just chime in to say that the Nitto bag support is indeed very nice. 
> Here’s a photo of the Nitto part holding up a small (Acorn) bag on my 1972 
> Cinelli:
> 
> 
> 
> --Eric Norris
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> 
>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Roberta > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Does anyone have  suggestions for something to "offset" a front handlebar 
>> bag from rubbing on the front exposed cable?  
>> 
>> With John H's help, we found this 
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-f16-front-handlebar-hook-bag-supporter-bag-part-nitto--870-288-10/p
>>  
>> 
>>  , but it's a bit pricey.  The support "shelf" is nice but not required.
>> 
>> I'm not interested in a permanently fixed item. as I'd move it from Riv to 
>> Riv.  Other than the price, I like this item.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: COVID face mask that lets you breathe and doesn't cause glasses to fog?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The CDC recommends mask wearing, both to protect you from others and to protect 
them from you:

CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public and 
mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will be around 
other people.

Note that the CDC does not know at this time whether face shields are effective:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

Same page at the CDC web site has advice on choosing a mask. 

–Eric N


> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:25 AM, Sky Coulter  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven’t found a simple mask that doesn’t fog my glasses to some degree or 
> other. Closely pinching a wire frame along the top to the bridge of your nose 
> wolill reduce the fog as long as u have the sides of the mask w a bit of a 
> gap for the hot air to escape thru.  
> 
> I have to wear a half mask respirator for work and find it is pretty good for 
> keeping fog away from glasses. I also found it was bearable for commuting to 
> and from work (12km w hills each way), but i did have to avoid maximal 
> exertion and control my breathing pattern better than i might otherwise.
> 
> We use the 3m 6200 mask c p100 filters (7093): the mask is around twenty 
> bucks, the filters around 30-40.
> https://www.amazon.ca/3M-Safety-142-6100-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B01HMF7V0M/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=respirator&qid=1606209733&sr=8-5
> 
> 
> Sky in new west
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m usually skeptic of simplified news reporting, especially in the 
>> presumed context of (rightly) trying to convince the general public that 
>> masks aren’t really an impediment to daily routine activities. Regardless, 
>> what exertion level did they measure the various oxygen levels at? If one is 
>> just riding along, unracer-like, enjoying the scenery, and smelling the 
>> flowers, I can believe that. However, if one is trying for a PR up Hamilton 
>> or Monte Bello, I’ll need to see the data and experimental setup to be 
>> convinced. Actually, I should just borrow my wife’s pulse oximeter and 
>> figure out the effects, if any, of masking , at various exertion levels, 
>> especially since I’m going exactly nowhere this Thanksgiving.
>> 
>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 8:10:10 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>> I just saw a news report that had a study showing that masks don’t have any 
>>> effect on your oxygen levels. That say they feel like they do but the 
>>> numbers show you are still getting the same oxygen moving around your body 
>>> as you would without a mask. 
>>> 
>>> I have a hard time wearing a mask while riding so I wear one pulled down 
>>> and “deploy” it when the need arises. My mask of choice is the Wald mask 
>>> since they fit ok and have some nice bikey patterns.
>>> 
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
  wrote:
 
 The thing with masks is that if they're not a bit constrictive, they 
 probably don't work (except for face shields, but who wants to look like a 
 welder with a transparent shield?). That's the nature of filters. Having 
 said that, there's constrictive, and there's constrictive. I should say 
 that none are constrictive to the extent claimed by anti-maskers.
>>> 
 
 I find the least constrictive is one that has the largest surface area and 
 that also does the job. Duh! But how do you know if it does the job? Given 
 that masks are at least half a prophylactic against transmission to 
 others, an easy way of determining efficacy, without specialized tools, is 
 to try blowing out candles that are within a few inches of your face, with 
 the mask on. If you can blow out said candle, the mask isn't effective 
 enough. Stay away from the N95 masks with one-way valves; sure, they're 
 nice for you, but they do not mitigate the dispersion of droplets to 
 others as you exhale.
 
 Anyway, I find buffs, wool ones, double-layer-up, and merely lightly snug 
 around the mouth+nose instead of tight, to be efficacious and least 
 constrictive. In fact, I use that when cycling in cold weather. With the 
 proper eyewear, I don't experience fogging issues when on the move. In 
 addition, you may also want to look into anti-fog treatments, especially 
 as eyewear will fog up even without masks when one suddenly stops, in 
 between exertions.
 
> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 2:10:42 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest one, preferably one that is easy on/off, or at least 
>> easy to slip down when solitary and up when in public? I've been using 
>> basic cloth masks and (1) they're suffocating under any exertion, (2) 
>> they fog my shades, (3) the ear loops detach easily from your ears, so 
>> slipping them down often pulls them off.
>>

Re: [RBW] COVID face mask that lets you breathe and doesn't cause glasses to fog?

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Joel:

The CDC recommends that people wear a mask “… in public settings … and anywhere 
they will be around other people.”  If I’m riding in the great outdoors by 
myself, I think the CDC guidances is that a mask is not necessary. When I ride, 
I carry a mask, which I put on anytime I’m stopped and either inside or around 
others.

P.S. The American Lung Association also recommends mask wearing:

"Masks are not 100% effective, but mask wearing does decrease the risk of viral 
spread. Public health professionals believe that mask wearing and social 
distancing are the keys to controlling the first wave and diminishing or 
avoiding subsequent waves of the virus. Mask wearing allows us to open the 
economy up faster. Not wearing a mask around others only worsens the pandemic, 
leads to more disease, and worsens the economic effects."

And:

“… wearing a mask is showing respect for others and is your way of helping 
lessen the spread of the disease."

https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-masks  

At this point, saying there is “controversy” around mask wearing is like saying 
there is “controversy” around whether the earth is flat, just because there are 
a bunch of web sites and YouTube videos saying it is. 

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> On Nov 24, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Joel S  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wish they would come out with a list of masks that might help.  There is 
> much controversy.  I wear a mask anywhere others are and just don’t know if 
> they do much good.  I believe they do cause us breathing problems if used for 
> prolonged times.  I have 2 nice fabric masks, one with a pocket that will 
> allow a coffee filter that is supposed to be a good protective layer but 
> seems to make breathing more difficult.  I also have some surgical style 
> masks with no clue if they truly work.  Being retired I can limit my 
> exposure.  
> 
> Question, why wear a mask when riding a bike (or driving a car)? 
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:41:06 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> The CDC recommends mask wearing, both to protect you from others and to 
> protect them from you:
> 
> CDC recommends that people wear masks in public settings, like on public and 
> mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere they will be 
> around other people.
> 
> Note that the CDC does not know at this time whether face shields are 
> effective:
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html
>  
> 
> 
> Same page at the CDC web site has advice on choosing a mask. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:25 AM, Sky Coulter > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> I haven’t found a simple mask that doesn’t fog my glasses to some degree or 
>> other. Closely pinching a wire frame along the top to the bridge of your 
>> nose wolill reduce the fog as long as u have the sides of the mask w a bit 
>> of a gap for the hot air to escape thru.  
>> 
>> I have to wear a half mask respirator for work and find it is pretty good 
>> for keeping fog away from glasses. I also found it was bearable for 
>> commuting to and from work (12km w hills each way), but i did have to avoid 
>> maximal exertion and control my breathing pattern better than i might 
>> otherwise.
>> 
>> We use the 3m 6200 mask c p100 filters (7093): the mask is around twenty 
>> bucks, the filters around 30-40.
>> https://www.amazon.ca/3M-Safety-142-6100-Reusable-Respirator/dp/B01HMF7V0M/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=respirator&qid=1606209733&sr=8-5
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sky in new west
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m usually skeptic of simplified news reporting, especially in the 
>>> presumed context of (rightly) trying to convince the general public that 
>>> masks aren’t really an impediment to daily routine activities. Regardless, 
>>> what exertion level did they measure the various oxygen levels at? If one 
>>> is just riding along, unracer-like, enjoying the scenery, and smelling the 
>>> flowers, I can believe that. However, if one is trying for a PR up Hamilton 
>>> or Monte Bello, I’ll need to see the data and experimental setup to be 
>>> convinced. Actually, I should just borrow my wife’s pulse oximeter and 
>>> figure out the effects, if any, of masking , at various exertion levels, 
>>> especially since I’m going exactly nowhere this Thanksgiving.
>>> 
>>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 8:10:10 PM UTC-8 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>> I just saw a news report that had a study showing that masks don’t have any 
>>> effect on your oxygen levels. That say they feel like they do but the 
>>> numbers show you are still getting the same ox

Re: [RBW] Brooks saddle turning into a banana

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Let it dry and it should go back to its original shape. If needed, tighten it 
up with the nut at the front of the saddle to remove the sag.

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> On Jul 23, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Jim S.  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been touring, and yesterday it rained quite a bit. My B17 seems to 
> have developed quite a curve, upsloping front and back, or sagging in the 
> middle. Is this unusual? Is it bad? Just curious about what board members 
> think. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me diagnose chain slip cause?

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I’m reminded of the old physician’s maxim: “When you hear hoof beats, think 
horses, not zebras.” Unless, of course, you’re a physician in Africa. The 
obvious answer is quite often right.

--Eric N

> On Jul 25, 2018, at 7:33 AM, Brett Callahan  wrote:
> 
> Well, I replaced the cassette and chain together last night. Problem solved. 
> Once the cassette was off the hub I compared it to the new one. More worn 
> than I had realized, but I'm still surprised it was causing issues. 
> 
> I've always read that a new cassette should get a new chain to prolong the 
> life of both components, so I added a new chain as well, again using a second 
> quick link to splice in a few extra links. No problem there. 
> 
> The bike is back to spinning along without issue, and I'll reevaluate my 
> understanding of what constitutes "worn" when it comes to cassettes. 
> 
> Thanks all. 
> Brett
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Re: [RBW] Paris Bicycle Shops

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Definitely the Alex Singer shop, at 53 Rue Victor Hugo in Levallois (a separate 
city adjacent to Paris). The shop has been in the same location since the 
1940s. If you ask, they will take you in the back to see where Ernest Czuka 
built frames for some 50-60 years. Their supply of vintage NOS equipment is 
definitely drool-worthy.

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> On Jul 26, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Karl  wrote:
> 
> In Paris for a week, and wondering if anyone knows of any shops that a fellow 
> Rivendell fan would enjoy. Thanks in advance!
> 
> Karl
> Nashville, TN
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Re: [RBW] Re: Paris Bicycle Shops

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Photos inside the shop from my visit there in 2015:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/albums/72157681445923345 
 

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> On Jul 26, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> Cycles Alex Singer in Levallois, a suburb of Paris easily accessible by 
> Metro: 
> 
> http://www.cycles-alex-singer.fr/
> 
> One of the classic "constructeur" shops, still operating these days.  I tried 
> to visit on a Sunday when I was there for my honeymoon a few years ago, but 
> they're closed on Sundays (as well as Mondays and Tuesday mornings, according 
> to the website) but it was still good for about 30-45 mins of staring through 
> the windows at all of the beautiful machines.  
> 
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 1:42:06 PM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
> In Paris for a week, and wondering if anyone knows of any shops that a fellow 
> Rivendell fan would enjoy. Thanks in advance!
> Karl
> Nashville, TN
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[RBW] FS: Pletscher Dual-Leg Kickstand

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Like new dual-leg kickstand like this one: 
https://www.modernbike.com/pletscher-two-leg-kickstand

Came with a bike I bought. Installed and used a few times by the previous 
owner. Uncut legs, so it should fit any bike. All hardware except the little 
rubber feet.

$30 shipped in the CONUS.

Note that I’ll be away from home until Tuesday, so I can’t ship until then. 

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[RBW] FS: Brooks Saddle Bag

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I ended up with two of these, so one has to go … Nice Brooks bag in luxurious 
“pleather” with leather trim. Very good condition with the exception of one 
wear mark that will be mostly hidden when it’s on your bike and a few minor 
tears in the lining on the inside (see the photos). 

Works as a handlebar bag *or* a seat bag. If used on the seat, it will benefit 
from a holder or stabilizer to keep it from swaying.

These went for about $150 new—this one can be yours for $60 shipped in the 
CONUS.



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[RBW] FS: Keven's Bag

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Looking through my closet and found this … Didn’t remember that I had it! Not 
currently on a bike and not likely to be, so off it goes. The classic Keven 
bag—holds a lot in a nice, square-ish shape that tucks nicely under the seat 
and won’t hit your legs. Genuine Baggins Bag quality, made of thick canvas and 
leather.

Nice condition—a bit of patina, but no tears or damage. Includes all of the 
straps.

$65 shipped in the CONUS.



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[RBW] Bags Sold

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Brooks and Keven bag are both sold, pending payment 

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[RBW] FS: Pashley Guvnor

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Not a Rivendell, but certainly Riv-ish, and perhaps of interest to someone on 
this list. This is my Pashley, listed on eBay today. I’ll sell to anyone on 
this list for 10% off the eBay price. 


Look at this on eBay
Pashley Guvnor English Path Racer with Extras Excellent Condition



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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Headtube Sizes?

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Head tube on my 56CM Quickbeam is 15CM overall (between the headset cups).

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> On Aug 13, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Dave Grossman  wrote:
> 
> In order to help me ID a Quickbeam sizewise, can any owners help me out?
> 
> Can you tell me your respective headtube lengths for a 56, 58, and 60?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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[RBW] FS: Handmade Waxed Cotton Seat Bag

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Another find from the Bike Room closet. Handmade waxed cotton (very waxy) 
canvas and leather seat bag. Big enough to hold a couple of tubes and basic 
roadside repair tools. Needs a leather toe strap or similar to attach it to the 
seat. A slight amount of patina; no rips, tears, or holes.

$12 shipped in the CONUS.


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Handmade Waxed Cotton Seat Bag

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Kurt:

It’s yours. PayPal me at my email address.

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> On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:39 AM, 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Eric, I don't trust the private message system in google, but would love to 
> pick up your seat bag if not already claimed.
> Thanks!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
> 
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 1:05:15 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
> Another find from the Bike Room closet. Handmade waxed cotton (very waxy) 
> canvas and leather seat bag. Big enough to hold a couple of tubes and basic 
> roadside repair tools. Needs a leather toe strap or similar to attach it to 
> the seat. A slight amount of patina; no rips, tears, or holes.
> 
> $12 shipped in the CONUS.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights - Sinewave, IQX, Schmidt?

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Yes. Busch and Muller makes the Ixon light, which uses 4 AA batteries. Nice 
light that runs 3 hours on high, 15 on low. The low setting is OK for me in 
dark places (our in the country away from streetlights); YMMV. 

I’ve never seen them for sale in a US shop. Bought mine from a German online 
store. 

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> On Aug 18, 2018, at 3:54 AM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:
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> Anyone make asymmetrical batt lights?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights - Sinewave, IQX, Schmidt?

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Peter is of course correct. My fault for responding to an email before I was 
fully awake.

I have both lights, and the experience I described in my email is for the 
larger light, which I have used for some (but not extensive) night riding. Glad 
to hear that Peter has them in stock!

Eric N
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> On Aug 18, 2018, at 5:31 AM, Peter White  wrote:
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> The light in the photo is not an Ixon. It's an Ixon Core. It has a built-in 
> lithium battery that charges via USB. The Ixon, now called Ixon IQ Premium, 
> is a different and slightly larger headlight that does run on 4 AA batteries 
> and has a 5 hour run time at full power; 20 hours at low power. The width of 
> the Ixon Core beam is about ½ that of the Ixon. We import both and sell quite 
> a few direct to consumers as well as to shops all over the US and Canada.
> 
> PJW
> Peter White Cycles
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:56 AM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> Yes. Busch and Muller makes the Ixon light, which uses 4 AA batteries. Nice 
>> light that runs 3 hours on high, 15 on low. The low setting is OK for me in 
>> dark places (our in the country away from streetlights); YMMV. 
>> 
>> I’ve never seen them for sale in a US shop. Bought mine from a German online 
>> store. 
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[RBW] FS: Pair of Conti TopContact Tires 700x32

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Pair of Contis in very near new condition. These came on a bike I bought and 
have been ridden just a few times. Switched them out for a pair of more supple 
tires.

Nice tires, perfect for a commuter or town bike. Folding. Reflective sidewalls. 
These go for an insane price on Amazon 
(https://www.amazon.com/Continental-TopContact-Vectran-Breaker-Folding/dp/B01LE30DJY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1534740500&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=conti+topcontact+vectran
 
),
 so here’s your chance to get a way better deal than Jeff Bezos will give 
you!

$75 shipped in the CONUS. 



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