Re: [TANKS] Re: QF 25 Pounder Build

[Caleb Smith]

Hey, Chris,
I forgot to mention that the marker is attached to a springed door hinge.  
The hinge doesn't have quite enough strength to balance the marker, but I 
think once the outer pvc barrel is mounted, the marker will be just about 
balanced on the pivot point.  
Seems that a standard servo will work for now, I guess if I strip it out, I 
can just upgrade to a larger size.

Caleb

On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:22:16 AM UTC-4, odyssey...@aol.com wrote:

>  won't that put a bit (too much) of strain on the servo with a direct 
> connection like that or is that gun balanced on both sides of the pivot 
> point (and less/no strain on the servo)?
>  
> I know it's not the same as if it was in a tank where there will be shocks 
> to the servo due to the bouncing of the gun, but would it benefit having a 
> (can't think of the name of it at the moment - it looks like an "L") in 
> between the servo and the gun (the word "bell crank" just popped into my 
> head - not sure if that's the correct part name) to gain a bit more torque? 
>  
> chris
>  
>  In a message dated 7/27/2014 10:18:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> rctank...@googlegroups.com  writes:
>
> Caleb,
> My first tank, T-12, the Pz IV used a servo for the elevate 
> for years. It will be fine for the upcoming battle. Can't wait to see your  
> project finished.
>
> John P.
>
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:43:11 PM UTC-4, Caleb Smith wrote: 
>>
>>  I'm in on this hobby too!  After Tyng Industries offered a half built 
>> artillery piece for a very reasonable price, I just couldn't refuse.  So, 
>> now I'm the proud owner of a half built 25 pounder that needs rotate and 
>> elevate.  I would like to get this ready for the next battle, so I'll be 
>> hurrying along.  
>>
>> In the last two days, I think I've figured out the elevate system.  
>> Basically, it's just a standard servo with an extension on the horn with a 
>> piece of wire running from the horn to the gun platform.  The servo has 
>> plenty of movement to get to the 10 degrees maximum elevation, plus plenty 
>> of down angle.
>> I've attached a photo showing the basic idea.  If you guys think it will 
>> work, I'll replace the wire with a wooden pushrod system.
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Caleb
>>
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[TANKS] Re: QF 25 Pounder Build

[Caleb Smith]

Ok, that's good to hear.  I'll start working on installing everything today.

Next up, rotate!

Caleb

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:18:05 PM UTC-4, jvragu47 wrote:

> Caleb,
> My first tank, T-12, the Pz IV used a servo for the elevate 
> for years. It will be fine for the upcoming battle. Can't wait to see your  
> project finished.
>
> John P.
>
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:43:11 PM UTC-4, Caleb Smith wrote:
>>
>> I'm in on this hobby too!  After Tyng Industries offered a half built 
>> artillery piece for a very reasonable price, I just couldn't refuse.  So, 
>> now I'm the proud owner of a half built 25 pounder that needs rotate and 
>> elevate.  I would like to get this ready for the next battle, so I'll be 
>> hurrying along.  
>>
>> In the last two days, I think I've figured out the elevate system.  
>> Basically, it's just a standard servo with an extension on the horn with a 
>> piece of wire running from the horn to the gun platform.  The servo has 
>> plenty of movement to get to the 10 degrees maximum elevation, plus plenty 
>> of down angle.
>> I've attached a photo showing the basic idea.  If you guys think it will 
>> work, I'll replace the wire with a wooden pushrod system.
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Caleb
>>
>

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Re: [TANKS] Re: QF 25 Pounder Build

[OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat]

that springed door hinge will help some (at lest in one  direction)
 
chris
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2014 8:00:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
3219ca...@gmail.com writes:

Hey, Chris,
I forgot to mention that the marker is attached to a springed door  hinge.  
The hinge doesn't have quite enough strength to balance the  marker, but I 
think once the outer pvc barrel is mounted, the marker will be  just about 
balanced on the pivot point.  
Seems that a standard servo will work for now, I guess if I strip it out,  
I can just upgrade to a larger size.


Caleb


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RE: [TANKS] Time to get ready

[loic Anthian]

Loved the video John. I posted it on FOA Facebook page to get some comments
from our customers, I hope it's OK.

 

There seem to have lots of assets at this 2012 battle. And that Swedish
S-Tank looks . "wicked awesome"! That low profile probably made it difficult
to hit (unless there is a charge at point blank by the Tyng Cromwell!!)

 

There should be points for "ramming".

 

Loic

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[TANKS] future RC Tank Combat vehicle

[Joe Sommer]

Doug,

I recommend that PUFF should subcontract Kåre Halvorsen to install a 
paintball marker in his
latest creation.
http://www.industrytap.com/norwegian-engineer-creating-creepy-transformer-like-robots/19478

Joe


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Re: [TANKS] Time to get ready

['Mike Mangus' via R/C Tank Combat]

 
 A couple quick stories about the S-Tank during that weekend ...
 
 While the S-Tank was backing full speed (which is pretty quick), Will M made a 
great medium long range shot to plug the S-tank's side.  He immediately started 
crowing, "I hit it!  I hit that thing!"  lol.
 
 After the Tiger's track broke, I saw the Cromwell moving up behind the Tiger.  
Trying to save my teammate, I moved the S-tank between the two tanks and facing 
the Cromwell ... so the Cromwell fired over top of the S-tank to take out the 
Tiger.  :P
 
Mike M
 


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To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [TANKS] Time to get ready
  


Loved the video John. I posted it on FOA Facebook page to get some comments 
from our customers, I hope it’s OK.
 
There seem to have lots of assets at this 2012 battle. And that Swedish S-Tank 
looks … “wicked awesome”! That low profile probably made it difficult to hit 
(unless there is a charge at point blank by the Tyng Cromwell!!)
 
There should be points for “ramming”…
 
Loic
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Re: [TANKS] future RC Tank Combat vehicle

[OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat]

forget the paint ball maker, i think it needs an eye ball looking out of  
the top of it whe it opens up.
 
when it was at the end on the court, i thought it would be something to  
paint it up like a basketball and leave it sit there until some kid tried to  
pick it up and have it spring to life
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2014 2:00:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
anvil...@comcast.net writes:


Doug,

I recommend that PUFF should subcontract Kåre  Halvorsen to install a 
paintball marker in his
latest  creation.
http://www.industrytap.com/norwegian-engineer-creating-creepy-transformer-li
ke-robots/19478

Joe



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Re: [TANKS] Time to get ready

[TyngTech]

>
>
>  After the Tiger's track broke, I saw the Cromwell moving up behind the 
> Tiger.  Trying to save my teammate, I moved the S-tank between the two 
> tanks and facing the Cromwell ... so the Cromwell fired over top of the 
> S-tank to take out the Tiger.  :P
>

Size does matter!  ;-)

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[TANKS] Re: Time to get ready

[TyngTech]

I see Chris captured a "lets back the Cromwell into a tree and turn the 
power switch off" moment!  LOL



On Sunday, July 27, 2014 6:31:53 PM UTC-4, jvragu47 wrote:
>
>  With four weeks till the next battle, I thought it would be a good 
> time to pulish some new video. Courtesy of Chris, Mr. Slipway, we have 
> footage from the June 2 and 3 battles of 2012. 
>  This first section is the first half of Battle #1. Some nice closeups 
> of the Swedish S Tank, the Conn Tiger, Cromwell, PzII, Paul's, and the 
> artillery. 
>  I have 3 more hours of footage to go through. So, maybe another 6 
> vids.
> Chris did some very nice camera work. It's good to have a different 
> perspective from the tank level for a change.
>
> John P.
>
> june2012#1 
>  
>  
> [image: image] 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> june2012#1 
> View on youtu.be 
> Preview by Yahoo
>  
>
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Re: [TANKS] Re: Time to get ready

[OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat]

i did miss (i think) that one painful shot to the back of the head (not  
sure who that was)
 
chris
 
 
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steve...@gmail.com writes:

I see  Chris captured a "lets back the Cromwell into a tree and turn the 
power switch  off" moment!  LOL

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RE: [TANKS] future RC Tank Combat vehicle

[Doug Conn]

Kåre Halvorsen (aka Zenta) is a regular poster on the Trossen Robotics forums 
and I’ve seen his morphing robots before, but I’ve never seen that video. 
Pretty amazing !

 

Can you imagine getting a paintball marker in there ? Good luck !

 

From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcombat@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Joe Sommer
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 2:01 PM
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TANKS] future RC Tank Combat vehicle

 


Doug,

I recommend that PUFF should subcontract Kåre Halvorsen to install a paintball 
marker in his
latest creation.
http://www.industrytap.com/norwegian-engineer-creating-creepy-transformer-like-robots/19478

Joe



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[TANKS] power switch question

[Doug Conn]

I have a very basic question about the power switch for our tanks. The rules
wisely require an externally accessible switch that kills power to the tank.
I've seen those huge, ugly, battery kill switches with the giant red
removable key handle. Other than that, what's a good choice for a main
switch ? I'd like something a little more compact.

 

Normally this would be no big deal, but when you consider the currents that
flow through most of drive systems you quickly exceed the 30A capacity of
most heavy duty toggle switches. Bad Kitty just sort of ignores the switch
rating as I suspect many of the vehicles in the hobby do.

 

I've been thinking of using the external switch to supply power to relay
windings and using the relay to supply the main tank power. What do you
think ?

 

-  Doug

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[TANKS] Re: QF 25 Pounder Build

[Caleb Smith]

>
> I got the wooden pushrod system all cut out today and it's ready to 
> install.  I'm going to wait till I have a better idea of where things are 
> going before I glue anything though.  I'll take some photos of it tomorrow 
> for evaluation.
>
I've been doing some research on what I want to do for the rotate.  Steve's 
original idea that I want to use is a geared motor at the end of the gun 
carriage with a spiked wheel that would spin the gun 360 degrees.  After 
looking through many websites, I think I found a motor that will work.  
I'll be running this gun at 7.4 volts, so the motor will be spinning about 
half it's rated RPMs, I think.

Here is the motor. 
http://www.dx.com/p/high-torque-80rpm-12v-dc-geared-motor-91628?tc=USD&gclid=CjwKEAjwxtKeBRDMzoeQmYn5uHcSJACGCF3D5p5zz3sy2zZyJL-lgL8qzTj8MfNhtCW4q1FLSNQh3xoCsXzw_wcB#.U9bwumOTFIq

Do you guys think the motor will work for what I intend to use if for?
Also, will a 12v door lock actuator work ok on 7 volts?  
Thanks,
Caleb

>  
>

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[TANKS] Time to get ready Act 2

['John Pittelli' via R/C Tank Combat]

More from that first battle session. The dialog is hilarious. Pay attention to 
when it dawns on Frank there is an unholy alliance , temporarily, of tanks 
versus artillery.
Later, watch as Pauls PzII wades into a hailstorm of hurt.  Love the dance. LOL.

I forgot that this battle was the debut for 3 new assets.
Mike's Swedish S Tank and his Spartan supply vehicle.. Wickedly fast!!!
And T-79, my beloved Abomination, PzII Ausf J. 


Enjoy, and more to come.

june2012#1b

  
             
june2012#1b  
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Re: [TANKS] Time to get ready

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On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:45:09 PM UTC-4, lo...@fieldofarmortanks.com 
wrote:
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> Loved the video John. I posted it on FOA Facebook page to get some 
> comments from our customers, I hope it’s OK.
>
>  Of course Loic, it's A Okaay.  Just don't forget my royalty check. 1 sou 
> per view. LOL
>

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Re: [TANKS] Time to get ready

[OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat]

i at least want a quarter horse out of it
 
chris
 
 
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On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:45:09 PM UTC-4,  lo...@fieldofarmortanks.com 
wrote:  
 
 
Loved  the video John. I posted it on FOA Facebook page to get some 
comments from  our customers, I hope it’s OK. 
Of  course Loic, it's A Okaay.  Just don't forget my royalty check. 1 sou  
per view. LOL




John 

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Re: [TANKS] Time to get ready Act 2

[OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat]

will these be linked in the battle report at some point?
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2014 9:21:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rctankcombat@googlegroups.com writes:

 
More from that first battle session. The dialog is hilarious. Pay  
attention to when it dawns on Frank there is an unholy alliance , temporarily,  
of 
tanks versus artillery.
Later, watch as Pauls PzII wades into a hailstorm of hurt.  Love the  
dance. LOL.


I  forgot that this battle was the debut for 3 new assets.
Mike's  Swedish S Tank and his Spartan supply vehicle.. Wickedly fast!!!
And  T-79, my beloved Abomination, PzII Ausf J. 



Enjoy,  and more to come.


_june2012#1b_ (http://youtu.be/exi7WMdsJhA) 




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Re: [TANKS] power switch question

[Frank Pittelli]

I think that's a good idea, Doug. In fact, I was going to do the same thing
in the Semovente but never got around to it. I normally use a separate 12V
switch for my control circuits that I turn on before the main 24V switch.
So, it would be easy to take power from the 12V switch to drive a
sufficiently large relay to switch the main 24V power circuit. A second
switch could also be installed between the 12V switch and the relay to
allow the electronics to be activated without activating the main power.
Both switches would be switching low power, making them easier to install
on the rear of the tank.

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