Re: Reiser FS
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deeper fs knowledge however. If one finds themselves frequently experiencing corruption problems, it might pay to learn the filesystem internals. A good day or two's reading I believe should give plenty of info to handle most situations. There are several howto's, and on the web there are ext2 documents by Ted T'so I believe, and perhaps others.. I've got a few kicking around. ext2 isn't that hard to understand, although I'm a bit rusty on it right now since I haven't had to use debugfs in over 3 years. ;o) Problem about reading for a couple days is that this implies user's job is knowing everything about system administration. I think we're speaking in different terms here.. ;o) If someone _is_ a system admin, in any way, then if they don't know how to sys admin, then they shouldn't be. If it is an end user system, then obviously they shouldn't have to be joe sys-admin, so I agree with you in that respect. This is possible if eiuser is a consultant or user is a system administrator in a big compnay so there are hundred people around user going with the task of making money for the company. If company is three of four persons or if user is a private individual this kind of "learning overhead" is unacceptable (no time left for real work). If someone is running Linux on a business system, and has problems that they can't deal with, they should hire someone who _can_ deal with the problem to do so. This is business, and lost time means money. If that is unaffordable, then they should consider the alternative operating systems and their associated costs. As it stands now, for joe user or joe sysadmin, fsck is a possible fact of life. Either one minimizes the chances of problems in the first place, by using a UPS, or some other method, or they use a different filesystem. fsck is unlikely to get any easier anytime soon. Perhaps it will get a GUI frontend or something but I wouldn't count on it anytime soon. If you look at a Windows system, SCANDISK presenting the user with a "4234 lost clusters found in 34 chains, fix?" is no different from what fsck is doing. The alternative in either case is to either auto-yes, auto-no, or leave the filesystem corrupt. It is really not something you encounter every day on a home system for joe user however, so I don't see it to be a big issue. If someone _is_ getting it a lot, then they should use the mailing lists, for support to find out why and possibly try a journalled filesystem. My main point is that as long as one uses ext2fs, and has unclean mounts, fsck is going to run, and you either learn it - which may be impossible for some, or completely undesireable, or you reformat or reinstall (windows methodology). The latter is sad, but what other option is there. Operating system recovery in _any_ OS is not for the beginner, and will lead often to complete reinstalls. Linux is no different. Even a journalled fs can become corrupt too, if a bad driver or something in-kernel garbles the disk, such as bad parameters passed to hdparm. So the problem isn't entirely just a filesystem feature one, but rather a general computer one. There is no easy answer other than "learn what you can about whatever OS's you use so you can fix them yourself when they break", or "pay someone to fix it for you", or "reinstall often". Sadly, those are the choices. If someone is patient enough though with problems they have, they can get pretty good help on these mailing lists. I would rather help someone with fsck, and related utils than see them lose data and reinstall. Well, gotta get some food into me... take care, TTYL -- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Open source advocate Copyright 2000 all rights reserved -- Be up to date on nerd news and stuff that matters: http://slashdot.org ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: Reiser FS
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Mark Shewmaker wrote: Problem about reading for a couple days is that this implies user's job is knowing everything about system administration. This is possible if eiuser is a consultant or user is a system administrator in a big compnay so there are hundred people around user going with the task of making money for the company. If company is three of four persons or if user is a private individual this kind of "learning overhead" is unacceptable (no time left for real work). There is no perfect solution to this problem, and there never will be. Imagining that filesystem-stability nirvana exists will only cause frustration. Yep, that is a good way of putting it. ;o) No matter what filesystem you have, no matter what hardware you have, and no matter how well-put-together the distribution, unless you've got a contract with the universe insuring that nothing untoward will happen in the vicinity of your machine, there will always be possibilities for types of filesystem corruption for which the standard tools will be insufficient and for types of filesystem corruption for which the even the best of gurus will have little if any success in recovering data. Absolutely. Some problems can be avoided by good system design, some problems can be automatically fixed given a well-designed distribution, some problems will require manual but easier-to-understand intervention, some problems will require the intervention of gurus, and some problems could require tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for clean-room data recovery. My, you have a good way with words. ;o) This is the exact point I was trying to get across as well, but I think you worded it better. Computer problems will always occur, both software and hardware, due to the nature of things. No system is 100% fault tolerant, and as you say, it either fixes itself, requires a user to do so, or to pay someone who does know to do the job. To approach a problem that is inherently not perfectly solvable and simply complain about that fact does no good to anyone. A better way of looking at things is to see how each player can improve his situation and the situation of others. For instance: Filesystem writers and writers of filesystem recovery tools: Make the filesystem better able to deal with types of corruption that are reported. Improve error messages in the recovery tools, perhaps incorporating some amount of documentation into the tool itself. (A useful tool for my job in supporting another unix, is a tool that makes a copy of all the filesystem metadata, so that a filesystem can be ftp'd to a guru and the damage understood and bugs fixed, without revealing any private data other than directory structure and file names and permissions. That might be a useful tool to have for ext[23] and Reiserfs and it would provide a more direct way for users to present known problems to the programmers.) Yep, but that is the least likely one to happen. The goals that people strive for when creating filesystems are usually more technical goals such as speed, minimizing disk wastage, minimizing fragmentation, etc.. Even the best designed filesystem can get foobed pretty good by giving hdparm bad options, or by using an experimental kernel or experimental modules, etc.. So we must assume that bad errors in on-disk data structures can always occur, and no matter how well designed these tools and filesystems are, there will be times when no automatic software can handle disk problems without asking questions. A lot of disk corruption problems for example have *NO* right or wrong answer. Sometimes it can be a choice like "you're losing data here pal, but I can recover one of two things, which one do you want? Number 34234 or number 355211?" In that case, joe user either guesses, or reformats and starts over, and is more careful next time (assuming something he/she did caused the problem). Distribution makers: Emphasise stability over speed when making suggestions for filesystem types during install. Include references to documentation in the root filesystem, (!) when startup scripts drop an admin into a shell for running fsck manually at boot. This could be the beginning of putting a lot of docs there and cluttering up the root fs. The problem here is that Linux as it stands now is based a lot on technical perfection, and other technical issues, and ease-of-use while aimed for and met in many areas, is a secondary goal for the most part. The more "end-user" friendly it is the better, but when that friendliness results in a messier system, for example like the root dir on a fresh Win95 install, technical users will jump ship like there is no tomorrow. Tutorials and documentation are fantastic, and wizard type programs might be cool for joe user too, but anything that forces these sort of "smart" tools on joe sysadmin, or
Re: Reiser FS
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main point is that this is not proprietary Unix where cost virtually ensures only relatively big organizations (the needs of smalleer ones could be handled by cheaper systems) use it and thus you can design basing on the paradigm the system adminstrator is a dedicated one. Since Linux is cheaper it can go where Unix can't go and constraints in smaller organizations are different. About the hiring of a consultant: 1) What if the nearest one is at 60 miles in bad roads? 2) What if the user's job could require intervention at 9 pm? This is charged extras. 3) Why the user should pay for what is objectively a design blunder (ie designing without paying attention to his constraints)? 4) Which car would you buy? The one where replacing a punctured tire or filling the gas tank requires you pay a trained garagist with special tools or the one you can do these things yourself? You just don't get it. There is _NO_ 100% solution that will stop every single user from ever experiencing disk corruption, and hence fsck from needing to be ran. It is impossible for fsck to automatically repair filesystems 100% of the time in an acceptable way without manual intervention. Therefore, if someone can't use fsck, doesn't want to reinstall, and can't pay someone to fix it for them, then they shouldn't use a computer. Computers do not just fix themselves. This problem is a very technical one, and _no_ non technical solution is likely to show up _ever_. The best possible work around is to avoid circumstances that result in filesystems becoming corrupt and requiring fsck. If someone isn't willing or able to do that, or can't fork out cash to have higher reliability, then they will have problems period if disk corruption occurs, and they can complain about it all they like, but _NOBODY_ can _DO_ anything about it for them. Solving the problem would be more difficult than curing all known diseases, finding a solution for world peace, and making sure every human being has three square nutritious meals a day. The sooner every user realizes this, the better, because then they can learn to fix things themselves, or they can reinstall, or pay someone to fix it for them. There is no other way period. This is the reality of computing, and is not limited to Linux at all, nor the discussion at hand. It isn't a programming issue either. It is a "this is the real world of computing" issue, where some problems are beyond the range of what automated computer software can handle. If the software _can_ minimize trouble, then by all means, it should do so, but if it can't, then it can't - no matter what we'd like to see. AI can't solve all computing problems. -- Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Open source advocate Copyright 2000 all rights reserved -- "If it isn't source, it isn't software." -- NASA ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: Reiser FS
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reconfigure everything each time, spending 10-30 minutes to learn how to use fsck and print out the manpage is nothing. That was my main point. I'm just trying to offer help to the real solution thats all. Nobody has to follow it.. ;o) Knowing fsck is useless because the real problem is that it gives you messages like "inode 43200 has such problem do you want I do this?". Now hhow do you know what is inode 43200? You are not in normal mode with a process controlling the terminal so CTRL-C and CTRL-Z are unavailable and that means you cannot suspend fsck and use find to know what is this inode. In addition the partition is not even mounted. All you can do is answer blindly. No, there are other things you can do too. It requires that you know more about the filesystem however. If you truely don't know the filesystem and what to answer, then it is guesswork. What do I think we've already said this. The filesystem checkers on Linux are not fit to be used by amateurs. Almost nobody on this list knows enough to make educated replies to the questions asked of them in manual mode. I cane to Linux from OS/2. It never required that one answer such questions, though it did leave some pieces for the user to inspect and discard. Before PCs were invented, I used IBM mainframes. The OS family of operation systems (and the family started out in the 1960s) don't even have a program equivalent to chkdsk. Short of a failed disk drive, I've never heard of a catastrophe sufficient to need one (and if we'd had one during some of the years I used them, I'd have been sent to fix it). I've also outlined one of the major failings of even the most current backup, so I won't repeat THAT. btw I happened on an 11-year-old computer magazine last night. Tape drives for PCs are cheaper now than they were then when just about anyone who sold disk drives also sold tape drives. ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Network system adm
Dear all The fundamental differences between Network administration and system administration is what ? If the answer is with u then please send it to me . Thanks selim
Re: Modem Install:Kernel recompile gives version error
Hi Tobias, Thanks. I became aware of lack of a C compiler when I was reading an article. I didn't have gcc loaded at all so I went looking. I have installed the rpm egca c++ which is the nearest thing I can find in the list of RH 6.2 rpms on the CD. I looked at the Redhat site with a search for gcc and that egca rpm was the result. Is that the right one. As I said, I have installed that compiler rpm and tried the compile again with the same problems. I tried a "insmod -f" which I think was a mistake but am working through that as well now. rmmod didn't help. Getting a number of error messages on boot now..gezzz!..this is the way we learn I guess I will try that "which gcc" shortly. Thanks for the help. Regards, Starn Tobias Roppelt wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Starn and Judy Johansen wrote: # make:gcc: command not found Hi Starn! Make is telling you that it can't find your compiler. Try 'which gcc' to see if gcc is installed. Tobias ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: custom,server and worksation types
With a server install, it will blow away *all* existing filesystem types -- ext2, vfat, et al., no questions asked. But as far as packages go, I'm sure it just installs those that are most likely to be found on servers (httpd, wu-ftpd, named, ypserv...) which you wouldn't want running on a standard workstation (at least I wouldn't). Cheers, -Charlie On Sat 23 Sep at 12:03:09 +0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said: Dear all Would u please explain the differences among the installation types "workstation, server and custom". Custom installation I understand better but other two types i don't find any difference. Explanation expected. Thanks in advance.. Best wishes selim ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Still having a NIC problem
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Rachel Collins wrote: I haven't received any replies to my request for assistance, so I tried taking the NIC out, waving a dead chicken over it, and clicking my heels together three times while chanting "There's no OS like Linux", but it just locked my computer... Should I maybe have tried a live chicken? hehehe, did you thaw it out and remove the sobey's wrapper? On Wednesday, September 20, 2000 Rachel Collins begged for help thusly: # --I don't have anything in my /etc/conf.modules file about my # ethernet card. # Should I? In '/etc/conf.modules' alias eth0 pcnet_cs options pcnet_cs irq=10 io=0x300 # --The network dongle (you know, the adapter thingie that # connects the card # to the network cable) has three lights on it (10/100, # Half/Full, Ln/Act). # When I plug into a 10 Mb hub, the appropriate lights come on # (still doesn't # work), but when I plug into a 100 Mb hub, they all just flash. Is it # possible that it is failing because it can't detect whether # the card is 10 # or 100? The module pcnet_cs probably doesn't support 100baseT yet. # --I don't think protocol is my problem, but I noticed in the # course of my # travels that there's an IPv6, and I appear to have IPv4. # Should I get the # newer version? # No. IPv4=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (ie 192.168.0.1) and IPv6=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (approximately) # # Everything that sounds network related in my /var/logs/messages file # (hopefully without too much other stuff mixed in): # # ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. # network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed I understand that you modified the startup scripts so that /etc/rc.d/rc3.d,rc5.d/*pcmcia is executed before /etc/rc.d/rc3.d,rc5.d/*network. Good. # cardmgr[479]: executing: './network start eth0' Check up on that line './network start eth0'. That doesn't look right. I'd recommend that you get rid of that, or modify it to run the appropriate services, like '/sbin/ifup eth0' for example. As indicated in another reply, '/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0' will have to be created. 'ifcfg-eth0' is usually generated in that directory after you use the 'netconf' (text-based menu) or 'netcfg' (X-based/GUI) commands. Hope this helps, L.G. -- Generated Signature -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. -- End Sig -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Network system adm
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Selim Jahangir wrote: Dear all The fundamental differences between Network administration and system administration is what ? SysAdmin=PC Repair and Troubleshooting Technician *bows in holy reverence* Unusual skill level: understands wiring schematics (ie the Serial Port) and can solder stuff on/off the motherboard in addition to more common skills shared possibly with a NetAdmin. (I met a 'real' sysadmin, hehehe) NetAdmin=Local Area Network cable wiring and computer security specialist, troubleshooting connection problems. Optimizes, upgrades, and monitors network connectivity on a continual lifelong basis. Has to be highly organized to keep track of Wiring closets, and etc. Unusual skill level: understands BSD-like systems, and can configure routers (ACL lists), switches, and WAN serial connections. Can splice fibre-optic cables, and install network cabling even through cinder-block walls. (Yours Truly) HTH, L.G. -- Generated Signature -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. -- End Sig -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: custom,server and worksation types
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a server install, it will blow away *all* existing filesystem types -- ext2, vfat, et al., no questions asked. But as far as packages go, I'm sure it just installs those that are most likely to be found on servers (httpd, wu-ftpd, named, ypserv...) which you wouldn't want running on a standard workstation (at least I wouldn't). Cheers, -Charlie Also no X on a server install. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Can anyone help to get me off this list
Heres the deal, I have tried to unsubscribe using the normal methods via email. But I get errors coming back each time. I have gone to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list but each time I get refused entry, apparently I am not recognised. I have logged in to Redhat with my user name and password and still the URL won't work. I have been to moongroup but the redhat list isn't even listed there. I have been trying to get off this damned mailing list for two weeks now, without success :0( I have even tried emailing RedHat support for help, and got none -- of course (no replies even). Alan -- AlphaByte: PO Box 1941, Auckland, New Zealand Specialising in:Graphic Design, Education and Training, Technical Documentation, Consulting. http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Still having a NIC problem
Rachel Collins wrote: Do you know of any way to set the negotiation manually so that it forces it to start at 10 or 100, or at full or half duplex? The computer is dual booting to Win2k so I know the card is functional, and I can't find any utilities on the driver disk that appear useful. Sorry, that's something I've never confronted before - no idea how to do it. Yes, I have that file and 'NETWORKING=yes'. I also tried setting my IP manually (to a generic 192.168.0.50) and it behaves like it's starting ok now, but my lights are still flashing and I, of course, still can't access anything outside of my pc (although I can ping my pc). It also still says 'trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy' and 'found link beat' and 'lost link beat' whenever I try to ping something. This really reminds me of problems I had when I first tried setting up token ring cards for one of the schools in the district. I would get transmitter busy and other similar sounding messages plus a token card will flash it's lights until it inserts into the ring. My problems there were with conflicting shared memory area's between the token and ethernet cards in the router I was building. I know you've dealt to some degree with the IRQ assignment. Have you seen anything in /var/log/messages that might be a complaint about ioports, shared memory, or specific irq's? I think Luke suggested to check /proc/???/interupts (can't remember exactly where it is :-) to see what is in use. What did it say about irq 10? I tried changing S45pcmcia to S09pcmcia so that it would start first - it made it think a lot harder about initializing the card, and it now consistently says 'lost link beat' right after 'found link beat', but no other changes. What does 'found/lost link beat' mean? What does 'trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy' mean? I don't know exactly what this means. As I mentioned above, I got transmitter busy messages (among others) with a shared memory conflict with another card. As to whether it could indicate or refer to other problems - I don't know, but I'd guess that it could. Is there another card you'd recommend I buy? ;) Not me personally - I don't have a laptop to use a PCMCIA card in. There was another post I saw down a little way that had a recommendation though. Chad wrote: I have a Xircom CEM56-100 that works great, (Translated: it works for me and I've had no problems with it) Have you looked through any of the hardware databases to see how your pcmcia card (or the laptop) is rated with Linux? Have you looked to see if there is anything helpful in the PCMCIA Howto? There are a couple of links there to other potential resources and you might run across another list somewhere that deals specifically with pcmcia hardware for Linux. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html That's about all I can think to suggest to you. Sorry I couldn't be of more help but I'm out of ideas :-(. Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: custom,server and worksation types
Please send mail to the list in plain text if you use Outllook express it is in Tools, options send also you can also check the option in the address book on the page where you enter the address. Alot of people on the list only read plain text mail so you will get alot more help if you follow this rule. Now for your question. (I use 6.0 so my answer is for 6.0 and may have changed for newer versions) Workstation: wipes out all exiting Linux partitions and uses all free unpartitioned space on disk creates a 64mb swap, 16mb boot and a / partiton Server wipes out all partitions: windows, linux, ect. creates 64 mb swap, 16 mb /boot, a 256 mb /, 256 mb /var, a partition of 512 + mb /usr, and 512 + mb /home. You need atleast 1.6 gb drive. The index in the back of the book that lists the packages has a W for workstation, and a S for Server so you know which packages it will install. I always do a custom install. Thanks Linda Hanigna - Original Message - From: "Selim Jahangir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: custom,server and worksation types Dear all Would u please explain the differences among the installation types "workstation, server and custom". Custom installation I understand better but other two types i don't find any difference. Explanation expected. Thanks in advance.. Best wishes selim ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: The best web editor
Stay far away from those 'WYGIWYG' editors. There's been a long thread on this list about some of those editors (read Win editors) using a non standard representation of special characters, which renders the page almost unreadable for any user not using a Micro$oft browser, but I'm not convinced that non M$ editors are so much better. Besides, with a text based editor, *you* are the master of your code. Most WYSIWYG editors are actually WYGIWYG-SU editors. actually i've had VERY good results ( while yes for those that know exactly what they are doing text editors allow the best mastering ) with TopPage from IBM.. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: 32 MB AGP video card
Ken Plumley wrote: Are their any 32 MB AGP video cards that work with red hat? I plan on upgrading my machine if one will run on it. Thanks in advance, dunno about the 32MB issue but my diamond nvidia AGP 16MB works just fine.. boy am i glad i went diamond ...great card... lee -=== ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: The best web editor
1. Amya - browser/editor put out buy the Web Consortium. 2. IBM has ported there WebShpere stuff to Linux. That includes their server, but I understand a striped-down version of their HTML editor is available for free. i'm trying WebSphere ( I have older one called TopPage but just in winblows ) but frankly its terribly slow i find..of course because it runs in background to wine...ouch but still its very handy..i know most html likely prefer non-wysiwyg BUT in a pinch its sometimes faster and easier to crank something outespecially for DHTML positioning. lee -= ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: The best web editor
Is there such a thing is a "good" wysiwyg web page editor for Linux. I use NetObjects on a Windoz box, but I'd like to find something comparable for Linux. The folks at NetObjects told me they have no plans on porting their product to Linux. they prob don't have enough programming staff... lol no seroiusly i just don't get a position like that its nuts.i have found linux to be far more stable o'er the test of time and frankly also i LOVE that i NEVER have to worry about defrag issues..just to drive me nuts..LOL can't say i feel the same good overall feeling about netscape in linux.fonts there in some webpages drive me NUTS as well but i haven't yet got that fix for that..where again is that folks?? :-)-= lee -== -= ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: The best web editor
s there such a thing is a "good" wysiwyg web page editor for Linux. I use NetObjects on a Windoz box, but I'd like to find something comparable for Linux. The folks at NetObjects told me they have no plans on porting their product to Linux. yes its called WebSphere.while I really dispise the speed it overates at under wine its all we got for now that I know of... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Modem Install:Kernel recompile gives version error
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Starn and Judy Johansen wrote: Starn# C compiler $ rpm -q --whatprovides gcc egcs-1.1.2-30 Starn# "insmod -f" Well, worth a try. ;-) tbi ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: 32 MB AGP video card
On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 07:24:51PM +, Ken Plumley wrote:
:
: Are their any 32 MB AGP video cards that work with red hat?
: I plan on upgrading my machine if one will run on it.
I'm extremely happy with my Creative Annihilator 2. It's a GeForce2 GTS,
with 32 MB onboard. Very nice, very fast too.. Be warned though.. To
get it to work, I had to use the XFree 4.0.1 packages from Rawhide.. This
went something like:
1) Get the SRPMS from Rawhide for XFree86-4.0.1, xinitrc, initscripts,
and modutils (I think that covered all the dependencies I had).
2) rpm --rebuild and install the initscripts, modutils
3) rpm --rebuild XFree86 and xinitrc
4) install the XFree86 packages and xinitrc
5) cd /etc/X11 ; ln -sf ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 X (they forgot to do it
in the postinst script for XFree86).
6) For my card, I had to go the the NVidia website and get the 0.9-5
kernel module, plus GLX drivers. Make sure you pay particular attention
to NVidia's docs, because there are a couple of files you'll need to
pull *out* of their usual locations, so the NVidia driver-provided files
can take their place (such as libGL, etc).
7) Get an XF86Config file together - xf86cfg doesn't work for this card.
I had an existing one that I modified. xf86config generates one that
*almost* works. I put mine up on my website for anyone who's got
something close to my config (GF2, Sony E200 tube, 1600x1200x24bpp):
http://www.jasons.org/XF86Config
BE WARNED: You can blow up your monitor if you don't go in and adjust
the available refresh rates in this file. If you don't, you might
try to over-drive your monitor, resulting in smoke rising from it, and
you getting extremely frustrated. You may also need to adjust the Mouse
section, as well as the video driver. But the good news is that with
XFree 4.0.1, modelines are no longer used, so you don't have to worry
about the old-style dot-clocks. Huzzah!
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Re: Network system adm
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:12:16PM +0600, Selim Jahangir wrote:
: Dear all
: The fundamental differences between Network administration and system administration
:is what ?
:
: If the answer is with u then please send it to me .
One guy cares for systems, the other guy cares for the network. I hate to
play the role of Captain Obvious, but isn't it really obvious???
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Hi there, I used to be on this list some time ago..., I just subscribed to be able to search the archives. I got some problems with the parallel port zip drive with the 2.2.x kernels, just upgraded... a bit late... I think this problem has been already developed here and, to avoid repetitions, I wanted to look at the archives... but, to my dismay, no instructions are given (as they were) when you subscribe and the web-interface at redhat.com is really poor... so: can someone forward me the emails detailing how to search the archives? thanks in advance bye fede ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Still having a NIC problem
Mike Rambo wrote: Rachel Collins wrote: Do you know of any way to set the negotiation manually so that it forces it to start at 10 or 100, or at full or half duplex? The computer is dual booting to Win2k so I know the card is functional, and I can't find any utilities on the driver disk that appear useful. [big snip] I don't have any experience with PCMCIA devices, but for PCI/ISA network devices, you can force the negotiation with device options in the /etc/conf.modules. For a 3Com card, this would look like this: alias eth0 3c59x options eth0 full_duplex=1 The options syntax depend on the device driver. I suggest you look in the source code to see what, if any, options there are. I know you can do this for a PCMCIA card, but I'm not sure if /etc/conf.modules is the right place for it. Note that you should not have to force the card as it will negotiate with the connecting device as to speed/duplex and I believe (could be wrong...) that the negotiation start high and works down, i.e. 100/full - 10. Best Cokey -- -- Cokey de Percin, DBAEmail: Policy Management Systems Corp. Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Columbia, South Carolina Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list
I tried to unsubscribe and it woked OK on the web page BUT still getting the emails *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 24/09/2000 at 12:19 AM AlphaByte wrote: Heres the deal, I have tried to unsubscribe using the normal methods via email. But I get errors coming back each time. I have gone to https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list but each time I get refused entry, apparently I am not recognised. I have logged in to Redhat with my user name and password and still the URL won't work. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Eth0 initialisation ?
- Original Message - From: "Daniel Wong" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 1:55 AM Subject: Eth0 initialisation ? Hi, I just built my kernel 2.2.16 and everthing seems fine at startup other than having the following startup function fail. bring up interface eth0 Delay in eth0 initialisation [Failed] can someone tell me what this error is and how to fix this ? Regards 1) Why are you messing with kernels when you could be watching the games? 2) If you're using a 3c509 ISA card, remove the 'options' line in conf.modules - I know the documentation says that you shouldn't autoprobe ISA cards, but that's the only way I can get a 3c509 to work. Cheers, James ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: More hacked server questions
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Jamin Collins wrote: First place to start would be with the ISP's that are responsible for those IP's. I wouldn't bet on a lot of cooperation though. Nonsense. I've always had good results notifying the ISP. Offer your logs to them should they want to prosecute, and if you want to pursue prosecution yourself please ask them to retain copies of *their* logs. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ ICQ#15735746 http://www.wolfenet.com/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpk -a finger://gonzo.wolfenet.com/jhardin 768: 0x41EA94F5 - A3 0C 5B C2 EF 0D 2C E5 E9 BF C8 33 A7 A9 CE 76 1024: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- "Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with /etc/sendmail.cf, "it never does quite what I want. I wish Christopher Robin was here." -- Peter da Silva in a.s.r --- 36 days until Daylight Savings Time ends ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: 32 MB AGP video card
I have a diamond viper II that works with 3.3.6 right out of the box. On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 07:24:51PM +, Ken Plumley wrote: : : Are their any 32 MB AGP video cards that work with red hat? : I plan on upgrading my machine if one will run on it. I'm extremely happy with my Creative Annihilator 2. It's a GeForce2 GTS, with 32 MB onboard. Very nice, very fast too.. Be warned though.. To get it to work, I had to use the XFree 4.0.1 packages from Rawhide.. This went something like: -- Bryan Liles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: searching the archives...
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Federico Strati spewed into the bitstream: FS FSHi there, FS FSI used to be on this list some time ago..., I just subscribed to be able FSto search the archives. I got some problems with the parallel port zip drive FSwith the 2.2.x kernels, just upgraded... a bit late... I think this problem FShas been already developed here and, to avoid repetitions, I wanted to look at FSthe archives... but, to my dismay, no instructions are given (as they were) when FSyou subscribe and the web-interface at redhat.com is really poor... FS FSso: can someone forward me the emails detailing how to search the archives? Red Hat does not provide that functionality but I do... http://www.moongroup.com/old/redhat.php -- Chuck Mead, CTO, LinuxMall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Public Key Available: http://www.pgp.net/wwwkeys.html ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [RHL] Re: Still having a NIC problem
http://www.moongroup.com/old/redhat.php - Original Message - From: "Cokey de Percin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: [RHL] Re: Still having a NIC problem Mike Rambo wrote: Rachel Collins wrote: Do you know of any way to set the negotiation manually so that it forces it to start at 10 or 100, or at full or half duplex? The computer is dual booting to Win2k so I know the card is functional, and I can't find any utilities on the driver disk that appear useful. [big snip] I don't have any experience with PCMCIA devices, but for PCI/ISA network devices, you can force the negotiation with device options in the /etc/conf.modules. For a 3Com card, this would look like this: alias eth0 3c59x options eth0 full_duplex=1 The options syntax depend on the device driver. I suggest you look in the source code to see what, if any, options there are. I know you can do this for a PCMCIA card, but I'm not sure if /etc/conf.modules is the right place for it. Note that you should not have to force the card as it will negotiate with the connecting device as to speed/duplex and I believe (could be wrong...) that the negotiation start high and works down, i.e. 100/full - 10. Best Cokey -- -- Cokey de Percin, DBAEmail: Policy Management Systems Corp. Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Columbia, South Carolina Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: searching the archives...
Federico Strati wrote: Hi there, I used to be on this list some time ago..., I just subscribed to be able to search the archives. I got some problems with the parallel port zip drive with the 2.2.x kernels, just upgraded... a bit late... I think this problem has been already developed here and, to avoid repetitions, I wanted to look at the archives... but, to my dismay, no instructions are given (as they were) when you subscribe and the web-interface at redhat.com is really poor... so: can someone forward me the emails detailing how to search the archives? thanks in advance bye fede check out the archives at www.moongroup.com/rehat.phtml Search form at the bottom of the page. Works very well. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
FOR ALPHABYTE --- was: Re: Can anyone help to get me off this list
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Cable Modem DHCP RH 6.1 Problems
I am currently having problems getting my RH 6.1 box to connect to my cable internet service (Road Runner [Greensboro, NC]). Supposedly vanilla DHCP should work ok but I'm having problems. Here's what happens... I try to grab an IP using pump with: pump -i eth0 shell spits out "Operation Failed." ifconfig reveals after this that eth0 is not up (of course). Likewise I fail when trying to use dhcpcd. When I assign eth0 an ip on my internal network the interface comes up just fine and I can ping around on my network so the card's hardware and setup seem to be OK. You can find a tcpdump here http://www.oppel.net/DHCP that I did while I did a dhcpcd -H. Here's a short description of the RoadRunner network that I'm trying to connect to: DHCP DNS1 - 24.28.227.64 DNS2 - 24.28.227.64 Gateway - 24.163.5.1 The subnet that I usually get an IP on is 255.255.255.192 Help would be greatly appreciated! -Jason ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Can Linux access net thru win95 box with dial up modem?
I do this now with nat32 running on the win95 machine, which connects over my cable modem. Check out www.nat32.com. I tried windows internet connection sharing - dont bother. Nat32 supports everything - its a router, not a proxy server like most of the other products. At 09:13 PM 9/21/00 -0700, Huttinger wrote: Hi, I have two win95 boxes networked together with two ethernet cards and software called Ishare. The win95 box I use has Linux Redhat 6.2 on it as a dual boot LILO system. Is it possible to use Linux to access the net through the ethernet card using the win95 box that is dialed in to the internet as a server? Perhaps someone could point to a book where they tell how to do this. I have read about VMware and Samba but my interpretation is they won't work for what I want to do. Any information appreciated. Mike Huttinger ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Dan Kronstadt Sunland, Ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cable Modem DHCP RH 6.1 Problems
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 02:23:07PM -0400, Jason Oppel wrote: I am currently having problems getting my RH 6.1 box to connect to my cable internet service (Road Runner [Greensboro, NC]). Supposedly vanilla DHCP should work ok but I'm having problems. Here's what happens... I try to grab an IP using pump with: pump -i eth0 shell spits out "Operation Failed." ifconfig reveals after this that eth0 is not up (of course). Likewise I fail when trying to use dhcpcd. When I assign eth0 an ip on my internal network the interface comes up just fine and I can ping around on my network so the card's hardware and setup seem to be OK. You can find a tcpdump here http://www.oppel.net/DHCP that I did while I did a dhcpcd -H. Here's a short description of the RoadRunner network that I'm trying to connect to: DHCP DNS1 - 24.28.227.64 DNS2 - 24.28.227.64 Gateway - 24.163.5.1 The subnet that I usually get an IP on is 255.255.255.192 Help would be greatly appreciated! Ok... I'm going to take some wild ass guesses here. Since you provided us with the above information, I'm guessing that you HAVE had this cable modem working before? Was it with this system? Was it with this ethernet card? If you are NOT using the same ethernet card that the modem was originally set up with, have you called your cable provider and given them the new MAC address (the one from the new card). Until you do, that card, and its MAC address is not going to be in their database and their DHCP server is going to ignore you. BTW... I just got broadband here a couple of days ago. The installer looked at my rack of equipment as I told him, "you're going to be connecting into that system", as I pointed at the mini-tower on top left of my 19" panel rack unit. He asked "what's it running, Linux?" I replied in the afirmative. He remarked "I don't think we support Linux." I told him "Correct. YOU don't support Linux. I do. You just provide me with the modem and the connection." I gave him the MAC address for that ethernet and told him "just call this address in and I'll do the rest." After he called it in, I powered up the cable modem and ifup'ed that ethernet interface. A split second later, I had my IP address and I'm up and rolling. Smooth as silk. I just have one problem. I intend to MASQ out the cable modem for high speed stuff, but I still have my ISDN lines for high reliablity things, like my DNS, and for my fixed addresses. My problem is that I DON'T want pump or dhcpcd installing a default route on that box! The default route goes out the ISDN ppp lines. The cable modem is just for a big fat, unreliable, pipe for big transfers. I can't figure out how to tell pump or dhcpcd NOT to install the default route! I can tell dhcpcd not to replace /etc/resolve.conf and do a few other things (that pump can't do) but I can't seem to prohibit this. I've now got a /sbin/ifup-local that spots eth2 (the cable modem interface) and removes that default route if it put one in (it always does) but that seems like SUCH A KLUDGE. Anyone got a better idea of how to keep them from installing a default route? -Jason Mike -- Michael H. Warfield| (770) 985-6132 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Mad Wizard) | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xDF1DD471| possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cable Modem DHCP RH 6.1 Problems
On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 02:23:07PM -0400, Jason Oppel wrote: I am currently having problems getting my RH 6.1 box to connect to my cable internet service (Road Runner [Greensboro, NC]). Supposedly vanilla DHCP should work ok but I'm having problems. Here's what happens... I try to grab an IP using pump with: pump -i eth0 shell spits out "Operation Failed." ifconfig reveals after this that eth0 is not up (of course). Do you have an assigned hostname? If so you need to pass that: pump -h $HOSTNAME -- Hal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
OT: Another Linux - but the price stinks!
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Re: Can Linux access net thru win95 box with dial up modem?
I didn't catch the original post, sorry. The method Dan Kronstadt describes below is probably a better fit based on the original query. However, a second way you could accomplish the same thing is by dialing into the internet on the box with LINUX and using ipchains to forward packets between the your private two node network and the ppp connection -- and yes, ipchains happily does masquerading (aka NAT). This would be my choice for several reasons, and to be honest and upfront about, the primary reason is my opinion of the Microsoft OSs. Now that I've given everything away letting you know I have a real bias, I'll also add that I know that with ipchains I can control what comes in through the ppp connection and what goes in and out of the private net since ipchains is a complete packet filtering system. The other nice thing is that all the required software is already compiled into the kernel in rh 6.2 so there's nothing else to install (and to be fair, OTOH, doing packet filters correctly can be a daunting task). FYI: VMWare and Samba are different animals entirely. VMWare (which is a commercial product -- a hobbiest license is $99) sets up virtual machines into which you can install a different OS. It is not like WINE which attempts to emulate aspects of the OS so you can run win32 programs, but rather a full virtual machine which just emulates some of the hardware pieces. I'm going to be doing some contract development work and will be installing an entire NT with IIS inside a VMWare virtual machine. Samba enables a UNIX machine to act as a node on a win95/98 or NT network. If you run Samba on your LINUX box, you can share files back and forth with the win95 machine -- which you might want to look at no matter what mechaism you choose for getting the whole thing connected to the internet. Samba is open source and I believe the url is www.samba.org. Samba also comes with you RedHat distribution. If you didn't install it when you first installed the system, you can always go back into the installer and choose upgrade. -- Rob --On 09/23/00 12:24:51 PM -0700 Dan Kronstadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do this now with nat32 running on the win95 machine, which connects over my cable modem. Check out www.nat32.com. I tried windows internet connection sharing - dont bother. Nat32 supports everything - its a router, not a proxy server like most of the other products. At 09:13 PM 9/21/00 -0700, Huttinger wrote: Hi, I have two win95 boxes networked together with two ethernet cards and software called Ishare. The win95 box I use has Linux Redhat 6.2 on it as a dual boot LILO system. Is it possible to use Linux to access the net through the ethernet card using the win95 box that is dialed in to the internet as a server? Perhaps someone could point to a book where they tell how to do this. I have read about VMware and Samba but my interpretation is they won't work for what I want to do. Any information appreciated. Mike Huttinger ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Dan Kronstadt Sunland, Ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
isp advice
Hi, I'm getting ready to move to Hawaii (it's tough I know) and would like to know if there are any linux friendly isp's on the island of Ohau? Thanks David McLaughlin ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: Another Linux - but the price stinks!
I don't know who put up that page, but I think it's great!! Kudos to you. However, I suspect Microsoft's lawyers are out looking for you even now. I hope you're already out of the country. :-) -- Rob --On 09/23/00 04:16:38 PM -0400 Julian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mslinux.org -- Julian Thomas: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.epix.net/~jt In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Boardmember of POSSI.org - Phoenix OS/2 Society, Inc http://www.possi.org -- -- He who laughs last is at 300 baud. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Can Linux access net thru win95 box with dial up modem?
MS designed Internet Connection Sharing into Win98SE (or some version like that) because linux did the ip forwarding and masquerading so easily. You can upgrade the box with the modem to the correct version of windows, or you can move the modem to the linux box and set up the masquerading networking from the linux box. (Its well documented) Your quick answer is that you can't do it with native windows 95. Mark ___ __HHH__ (@ @) .oOO--\_/--OOo.- | Mark Neidorff|Never assume a conspiracy exists | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|when mere stupidity can explain| | Just Answers!|an event. | | Computer Systems Solutions | R. K. Bernstein | ---.ooo0---0ooo. ( ) ( ) \ ( ) / \_) (_/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What does this mean????
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Jake McHenry wrote: # What should I do? # [root@mchenry updates]# rpm --install --test rpm-3.0.5-9.6x.i386.rpm # file /bin/rpm from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package # rpm-3.0.4-0.48 [...] ignore! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What does this mean????
Do rpm -Uvh filename.rpm At 01:03 AM 9/24/2000 +0200, you wrote: On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Jake McHenry wrote: # What should I do? # [root@mchenry updates]# rpm --install --test rpm-3.0.5-9.6x.i386.rpm # file /bin/rpm from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package # rpm-3.0.4-0.48 [...] ignore! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Eileen Orbell Software Internet Applications Capitol College mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't Fear the Penguin. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: Another Linux - but the price stinks!
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Julian Thomas wrote: http://www.mslinux.org Thank goodness it's only a joke! :-) John ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
linux guy cant get w98 networking going
2 computer setup with adsl, hub, works fine with both systems running linux 1)gateway computer my rhat 5.2 byers connected to adsl 2) a dual boot w98, linux rhat6.2 corni when corni booted up into linux, networking fine, good access to internet etc = note, I have _zero_ Windows experience Now, my wife needs, wants, whatever windows apps I had her trying linux on corni and this working out as far as it goes (using applix word processing) but she wants some other windows apps., dont ask. I got the linux networking going in very short order, firewall from this list on the main box, etc, all working fine. Was confident i could do the w98 network config with just messing around with the gui network stuff, WRONG. I have tried following prescriptions from a seemingly savvy book on w98 also, but to no avail. 192.168.2.1 lanside of my main linux box byers 192.168.2.7 ip of the other linux box, uses 192.168.2.1 as gw I tried using these _same_ numbers for the w98 networking setup but I cant seem to get any response. All i can ping sucessfully from corni in w98 is 127.0.0.1. even pinging 192.168.2.7 fails, as if the ip addr of corni simply isnt being set. Would really appreciate help from any w98-linux dual booters out there. I know, this is a linux list not w98, but i am really at sea here, and this list is the best source I know. I need an explicit step by step,since i am obviously doing something grossly wrong. Jack _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Eth0 initialisation ?
Simply put: The interface couldn't be brought up because your card hasn't been fully set up for use. What NIC do you have.. and did you compile support for it? Some boards require a lil extra work (passing kernel or module parameters, etc). On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Daniel Wong wrote: Hi, I just built my kernel 2.2.16 and everthing seems fine at startup other than having the following startup function fail. bring up interface eth0 Delay in eth0 initialisation [Failed] can someone tell me what this error is and how to fix this ? Regards Daniel Wong _..--"--.._ m _.-"_.-" U N S W "-._"-._ m | |=' ,=' '=. '=| | --|-|--+- Dan Wong -+--|-|-- | |/ Sydney, Australia \| | | | | | == email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linux guy cant get w98 networking going
When the Win9x box is up, from the Start:Run option, type in "winipcfg" (No quotes obviously) and hit return, you should get a window pop up and tell you all the Win9x IP settings. Make sure the subnet mask is correct. At least that way you can confirm the settings of your network card. Also from a DOS prompt, type in " route print" to see the routing table, make sure the table is correct. From DOS ping the interface on the Win9x box.. It should work. At least we have a starting point. Come back if more help needed. Darryl At 01:56 PM 24-09-00, Jack Byers wrote: 2 computer setup with adsl, hub, works fine with both systems running linux 1)gateway computer my rhat 5.2 byers connected to adsl 2) a dual boot w98, linux rhat6.2 corni when corni booted up into linux, networking fine, good access to internet etc = note, I have _zero_ Windows experience Now, my wife needs, wants, whatever windows apps I had her trying linux on corni and this working out as far as it goes (using applix word processing) but she wants some other windows apps., dont ask. I got the linux networking going in very short order, firewall from this list on the main box, etc, all working fine. Was confident i could do the w98 network config with just messing around with the gui network stuff, WRONG. I have tried following prescriptions from a seemingly savvy book on w98 also, but to no avail. 192.168.2.1 lanside of my main linux box byers 192.168.2.7 ip of the other linux box, uses 192.168.2.1 as gw I tried using these _same_ numbers for the w98 networking setup but I cant seem to get any response. All i can ping sucessfully from corni in w98 is 127.0.0.1. even pinging 192.168.2.7 fails, as if the ip addr of corni simply isnt being set. Would really appreciate help from any w98-linux dual booters out there. I know, this is a linux list not w98, but i am really at sea here, and this list is the best source I know. I need an explicit step by step,since i am obviously doing something grossly wrong. Jack _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to treat multiple domains on one server
Does anyone have an example /etc/sendmail.cw I could see? Thanks JW At 11:12 AM 9/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: I'm presuming you're not interested in keeping domains separate within sendmail (that is, set up virtual domains within sendmail). If that assumption is correct, simply add all hostnames, hostname and hostname+domain (ie., fully qualified) to the sendmail.cw file. Sendmail will then happily act as the final delivery agent for the those hosts. Sendmail can also, I believe, be configured to include that information directly in the sendmail.cf file, but my book with the m4 macros for building sendmail.cf is at my other office so I can't give you syntax if you prefer to not include the sendmail.cw file. -- Rob --On 09/22/00 11:58:32 AM -0500 Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, We now have several domain names pointing to our main Red Hat server. Most of them are for various web sites and are only used by Apache. However we do have this situation: our original intention was to name this box newhostname.our_domain.our_tld and we did, and that's what's in /etc/hosts however we can't send mail to that box because all mail going to our domain is snarfed up by our NT mail server :-/ which my boss doesn't want to change. So he bought a new domain name today, just for the Linux server, the primary reason being that we should now be able to send and receive mail there. So my question is, do I need to put the new domain name in /etc/hosts, or anywhere else? If not will it affect sendmail? Will sendmail pick up mail sent to that domain simply because the DNS and MX record point there? And how will it know to put "from: *@newdomain.com" on outgoing mail? Basically I've never dealt with multiple host/domain names and I'm not sure what to do :-) JW ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Hp 712/80
Anyone tried running Linux on HP 712/80 workstation? In particular please visit this URL: http://www.thepuffingroup.com/parisc/ Seems as though they're working on it. regards, Ahbaid. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Consulta varias ( Modems, Proxy,Web Server )
Hola usuarios Linux tengo varias consultas de difrentes instalaciones : 1.Modems. Tengo un modem interno isa pnp RC336DPFSP - Rockwell y quisiera saber si hay driver para Linux, lo trate de configurar en un RedHat 6.2. El otro modem es Motorola ISA interno Surf56K Integrado (Rockwell RRCVDL-56ACFW/SP) 2. Aplicacion FoxBASE Quisiera saber si una aplicacion multiusuario FoxBase se puede ejecutar en Linux, como lo haria ?, atravez de un interprete ? y las estaciones tambien Linux como la podrian ejecutar ? 3. Configuracion de servicios Web Donde obtengo informacion de instalacion y configuracion de un servidor Web,como a los clientes que podrian ser Linux. 4. Un servidor Proxy Donde obtengo informacion para instalar y configurar servidor proxy y sus clientes, accessos, permisos, quienes puede o no navegar, etc. 5. El mismo modem interno del punto uno (1) el Linux (RedHat 6.2) me lo reconoce como ttyS1 puede acceder a el, (minicom),pero cuando trato de sacar llamada en siempre me reporta que no hay tono ( NO DIALTONE). Gracias. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linux guy cant get w98 networking going
Hi, If the 'corni' machine sees the internet fine when it is booted into Linux, then all you have to do is alter some setting in Win98 to make it see the Internet too. Start Menu--Settings--Control Panel--Network Icon You should see 'Coni's NIC listed as "*Ethernet*"-something. If not, you need to install the driver for the Card as provided by the floppy disk provided with the NIC. Or download it from the 'Net. Then, you need to add the TCP/IP protocol stack and bind it to the driver. To do that, click on the 'Add' button, double-click on 'Protocol'. Select 'Microsoft', then in the right-hand box, scroll down and select 'TCP/IP'. It will automaticly bind to the NIC. Finally, modify the properties of the binded TCP/IP: Start Menu--Settings--Control Panel--Network Icon--TCP/IP-Your Ethernet Adapter Specify An IP Address: 'Corni's host address and netmask. WINS Configuration: Disabled Gateway: 'byers's IP address DNS Configuration: Enable DNS, Host=Corni, DNS Server Search Order=ISP's DNS servers NOTE: on byers, 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' for that info BINDINGS: leave as is Advanced: leave as is NetBIOS: leave as is HTH, L.G. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to treat multiple domains on one server
Let's say the fully qualified hostnames are mailhost.my.net and mailhost.your.net. Assuming mail will always come to the fully qualified name, you need just two lines: mailhost.my.net mailhost.your.net and that's the entire file. There are no macros or anything funny like that, just a straight list. Since mine are not long I don't worry about comments, but I do believe standard comment lines beginning with "#" and blank lines are are allowed. If you include comments and they're not allowed, it will be real obvious because sendmail plain won't come up and so you'll know real quickly to remove them. -- Rob --On 09/23/00 11:04:37 PM -0500 Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an example /etc/sendmail.cw I could see? Thanks JW At 11:12 AM 9/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: I'm presuming you're not interested in keeping domains separate within sendmail (that is, set up virtual domains within sendmail). If that assumption is correct, simply add all hostnames, hostname and hostname+domain (ie., fully qualified) to the sendmail.cw file. Sendmail will then happily act as the final delivery agent for the those hosts. Sendmail can also, I believe, be configured to include that information directly in the sendmail.cf file, but my book with the m4 macros for building sendmail.cf is at my other office so I can't give you syntax if you prefer to not include the sendmail.cw file. -- Rob --On 09/22/00 11:58:32 AM -0500 Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, We now have several domain names pointing to our main Red Hat server. Most of them are for various web sites and are only used by Apache. However we do have this situation: our original intention was to name this box newhostname.our_domain.our_tld and we did, and that's what's in /etc/hosts however we can't send mail to that box because all mail going to our domain is snarfed up by our NT mail server :-/ which my boss doesn't want to change. So he bought a new domain name today, just for the Linux server, the primary reason being that we should now be able to send and receive mail there. So my question is, do I need to put the new domain name in /etc/hosts, or anywhere else? If not will it affect sendmail? Will sendmail pick up mail sent to that domain simply because the DNS and MX record point there? And how will it know to put "from: *@newdomain.com" on outgoing mail? Basically I've never dealt with multiple host/domain names and I'm not sure what to do :-) JW ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to treat multiple domains on one server
I belive that's simply a pine configuration. The other thing is to make sure is that you're not masquerading. Often times on mail hubs we do that deliberately so all the mail has a consistent return address. But in your case, you probably want to make sure sendmail is not masquerading. That's all controlled by macros, so look at the *mc file your using to build sendmail.cf. -- Rob --On 09/23/00 11:14:59 PM -0500 Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm...I put the new domain first, in the sendmail.cf file, but when I sent a test mail from pine it's still using the old box.domain.tld. Is that because that's what' in /etc/hosts, if so does this simply mean that I have to change the box's hostname to the new domain alltogether? JW At 11:12 AM 9/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: I'm presuming you're not interested in keeping domains separate within sendmail (that is, set up virtual domains within sendmail). If that assumption is correct, simply add all hostnames, hostname and hostname+domain (ie., fully qualified) to the sendmail.cw file. Sendmail will then happily act as the final delivery agent for the those hosts. Sendmail can also, I believe, be configured to include that information directly in the sendmail.cf file, but my book with the m4 macros for building sendmail.cf is at my other office so I can't give you syntax if you prefer to not include the sendmail.cw file. -- Rob --On 09/22/00 11:58:32 AM -0500 Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, We now have several domain names pointing to our main Red Hat server. Most of them are for various web sites and are only used by Apache. However we do have this situation: our original intention was to name this box newhostname.our_domain.our_tld and we did, and that's what's in /etc/hosts however we can't send mail to that box because all mail going to our domain is snarfed up by our NT mail server :-/ which my boss doesn't want to change. So he bought a new domain name today, just for the Linux server, the primary reason being that we should now be able to send and receive mail there. So my question is, do I need to put the new domain name in /etc/hosts, or anywhere else? If not will it affect sendmail? Will sendmail pick up mail sent to that domain simply because the DNS and MX record point there? And how will it know to put "from: *@newdomain.com" on outgoing mail? Basically I've never dealt with multiple host/domain names and I'm not sure what to do :-) JW ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\/\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __/\/_//\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_//\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_//\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner McMinnville, Oregon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Consulta varias ( Modems, Proxy,Web Server )
Hola Juan... bienvenido en el forum de redhat-list! :) El informacion que he incluido en este email es todo en ingles... si su ingles no es muy bueno (peor que mi español! :) puedes utilizar el servicio de traduccion de altavista a: http://babelfish.altavista.com pero a veces los traducciones que hace este servicio son un poco estraños! 1.Modems. Tengo un modem interno isa pnp RC336DPFSP - Rockwell y quisiera saber si hay driver para Linux, lo trate de configurar en un RedHat 6.2. El otro modem es Motorola ISA interno Surf56K Integrado (Rockwell RRCVDL-56ACFW/SP) este pagina probablemente le sera de interes: http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html y http://www.linmodems.org/ - si los modems que tienes son winmodems... 2. Aplicacion FoxBASE Quisiera saber si una aplicacion multiusuario FoxBase se puede ejecutar en Linux, como lo haria ?, atravez de un interprete ? y las estaciones tambien Linux como la podrian ejecutar ? no se nada de Foxbase... :( pero si es una programa de windows podras ejecutarlo utilizando VMWare: http://www.vmware.com/ 3. Configuracion de servicios Web Donde obtengo informacion de instalacion y configuracion de un servidor Web,como a los clientes que podrian ser Linux. http://www.apache.org/httpd.html y http://www.apacheweek.com/ pero puedes installar apache utlizando el RPM en su CD de redhat. cuando tienes el servidor installado tendras documentacion disponible con: man httpd 4. Un servidor Proxy Donde obtengo informacion para instalar y configurar servidor proxy y sus clientes, accessos, permisos, quienes puede o no navegar, etc. http://www.squid-cache.org/ pero como apache puedes installar utlizando el RPM en el CD de redhat... 5. El mismo modem interno del punto uno (1) el Linux (RedHat 6.2) me lo reconoce como ttyS1 puede acceder a el, (minicom),pero cuando trato de sacar llamada en siempre me reporta que no hay tono ( NO DIALTONE). hmm... la pagina del punto uno probablemente le sera util en buscando soluciones por todos problemas con su modem y conneciones de PPP. Hay algunos URLs por otras paginas utiles en este pagina tambien... incluido referencia en winmodems. espero que este informacion sera util... es possible que podras encuentrar traducciones de estes documents en el internet si buscas utlizando un servicio como altavista. buena suerte! :) - dan. -- Nitro - 3D Visualisation, Graphics Animation Ph (+61 2) 9810 5177 - Fx (+61 2) 9810 0199 http://www.nitro.com.au/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Eth0 initialisation ?
Hi, I just built my kernel 2.2.16 and everthing seems fine at startup other than having the following startup function fail. bring up interface eth0 Delay in eth0 initialisation [Failed] can someone tell me what this error is and how to fix this ? Regards Daniel Wong _..--"--.._ m _.-"_.-" U N S W "-._"-._ m | |=' ,=' '=. '=| | --|-|--+- Dan Wong -+--|-|-- | |/ Sydney, Australia \| | | | | | == email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Eth0 initialisation ?
Are you using a network PCMCIA card on a laptop? or; What's the brand name of your NIC and what module have you chosen to use it with? Best Regards, L.G. On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Daniel Wong wrote: Hi, I just built my kernel 2.2.16 and everthing seems fine at startup other than having the following startup function fail. bring up interface eth0 Delay in eth0 initialisation [Failed] can someone tell me what this error is and how to fix this ? Regards Daniel Wong _..--"--.._ m _.-"_.-" U N S W "-._"-._ m | |=' ,=' '=. '=| | --|-|--+- Dan Wong -+--|-|-- | |/ Sydney, Australia \| | | | | | == email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ Redhat-install-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list -- Generated Signature -- You can create your own opportunities this week. Blackmail a senior executive. -- End Sig -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
What does this mean????
I was planning on updating my version of rpm, but this happened. What should I do? Jake [root@mchenry updates]# rpm --install --test rpm-3.0.5-9.6x.i386.rpm file /bin/rpm from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/bin/rpm2cpio from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/librpm.so.0.0.0 from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/librpmbuild.so.0.0.0 from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/brp-compress from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/brp-strip-comment-note from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/macros from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/rpmpopt from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides.sh from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/lib/rpm/vpkg-provides2.sh from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/man/man1/gendiff.1.gz from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/man/man8/rpm.8.gz from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/man/man8/rpm2cpio.8.gz from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 file /usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/rpm.mo from install of rpm-3.0.5-9.6x conflicts with file from package rpm-3.0.4-0.48 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
