Re: hosting a domain name
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:00:53PM -0400, John Rehmert wrote: You might also want to look into RegisterFly (www.registerfly.com). They don't have any initial fees and they only charge $9 or so per year. I've been with them for 4+ years with no problems and I'm up to 59 domains at this point. They have great web-based tools for domain admin. In Europe, I made good experiences with Gandi (http://www.gandi.net/). They offer mail and web forwarding, as well as hosting your secondary DNS for EUR12,-/yr. Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 == - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.org You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: hosting a domain name
Try either Register.com or Registry.com (.net maybe). Its a public DNS server that costs a couple of bucks a month. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nurullah Akkaya Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hosting a domain name my isp doesnt block any ports and i have static ip my problem i am going to start my project at home and then get a colocation service i dont want to lose the domain the last company i worked with doesn let me change thing on my domain like redirecting and i donnt want to pay redirecting fee if company let me do these thing then there is no need to run my own name server.can you point me to a big and reliable registring company? where does yahoo register its name? i mean just to get and example? -- Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #301438 What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. If at first an idea is not absurd, there is no hope for it Albert Einstein -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
At 03:02 9/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: anyone point me to a url or explain the precudures in hosting my own domain name on my servers? without redirecting from another isp. 1. Set up two machines for DNS service (on Red Hat, typically use BIND for this), and make sure they answer for the domain containing the information you want to provide (like, www.domain.com is 123.123.123.123). Name them something, for example ns1.domain.com and ns1.domain.com. 2. Register the domain (avoid Register.com and Networksolutions.com as very expensive) and when it asks for the nameservers point it to those two machines. This is usually done by providing the IP address but sometimes they ask for both hostname and IP address. 3. Done. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 02:17:42PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 03:02 9/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: anyone point me to a url or explain the precudures in hosting my own domain name on my servers? without redirecting from another isp. 1. Set up two machines for DNS service [snip] 2. Register the domain [snip] 3. Done. You probably want to configure sendmail and/or apache as well. For sendmail configs, look at the virtusertable and local-host-names. For apache, refer to the virtualhost directives - docs are at apache.org. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
At 15:22 9/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 02:17:42PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 03:02 9/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: anyone point me to a url or explain the precudures in hosting my own domain name on my servers? without redirecting from another isp. 1. Set up two machines for DNS service [snip] 2. Register the domain [snip] 3. Done. You probably want to configure sendmail and/or apache as well. For sendmail configs, look at the virtusertable and local-host-names. For apache, refer to the virtualhost directives - docs are at apache.org. Well, he/she (don't remember) did say host my own domain name. grin There's a lot more work to be done, but that was the first step... -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
i got a couple of questions why do i need 2 computers? where can i register the domain name which company is reliable? and i dont want to lose the name i register is there a way to automate registration ? and if i register the domain from a company called xyz.com(fake) and company closed 2 mounts later do i lose the domain and also i can i proof that it is my domain? thx -- Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #301438 What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. If at first an idea is not absurd, there is no hope for it Albert Einstein -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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Personally, I wouldn't setup your own DNS server unless you truly have need to. I use MYDNS.COM to manage my external domains. You don't have to use them to host it or redirect, rather you can use their IP Pointing which is nothing more than DNS entries on their DNS server. Setup your domain registration via their link to NamesDirect and you save a little money. Their DNS services are free (as in beer)! Can't beat that. Point your DNS entry from there to your static IP and voila! Tell your firewall/NAT router/whatever to forward your ports back to your services and you're good to go! I have, and/or my clients have, about 6 domains that I use their DNS servers for and it's very nice. Best of all, turn around on the DNS changes is usually no more than 24hrs. JAV -- Original Message --- From: Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: redhat-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 Sep 2003 03:02:18 -0500 Subject: hosting a domain name anyone point me to a url or explain the precudures in hosting my own domain name on my servers? without redirecting from another isp. -- Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #301438 What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. If at first an idea is not absurd, there is no hope for it Albert Einstein -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list --- End of Original Message --- -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 04:42, Nurullah Akkaya wrote: i got a couple of questions why do i need 2 computers? where can i register the domain name which company is reliable? and i dont want to lose the name i register is there a way to automate registration ? and if i register the domain from a company called xyz.com(fake) and company closed 2 mounts later do i lose the domain and also i can i proof that it is my domain? thx -- Your question was worded in a way that led to the answers you received. NO. You do not need two computers and, unless you know way you are doing, there is no reason to run your own name servers (most registars will do that for you). A registrar is simply an agent for Network Solutions. The more established registrars tend to offer better support for things like editing your zone file (for DNS) and might offer other incentives as well. What will you use the domain for? Do you have a static or dynamic IP? Does your ISP block any ports? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: hosting a domain name
my isp doesnt block any ports and i have static ip my problem i am going to start my project at home and then get a colocation service i dont want to lose the domain the last company i worked with doesn let me change thing on my domain like redirecting and i donnt want to pay redirecting fee if company let me do these thing then there is no need to run my own name server.can you point me to a big and reliable registring company? where does yahoo register its name? i mean just to get and example? -- Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #301438 What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. If at first an idea is not absurd, there is no hope for it Albert Einstein -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:42:15AM -0500, Nurullah Akkaya wrote: where can i register the domain name which company is reliable? I've been happy with http://www.godaddy.com and i dont want to lose the name i register is there a way to automate registration ? You can register for up to, I think, 10 years. You can also go annually and have them bill your credit card automatically. and if i register the domain from a company called xyz.com(fake) and company closed 2 mounts later do i lose the domain and also i can i proof that it is my domain? thx The domain will still be yours. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 04:14, Nurullah Akkaya wrote: my isp doesnt block any ports and i have static ip my problem i am going to start my project at home and then get a colocation service i dont want to lose the domain the last company i worked with doesn let me change thing on my domain like redirecting and i donnt want to pay redirecting fee if company let me do these thing then there is no need to run my own name server.can you point me to a big and reliable registring company? where does yahoo register its name? i mean just to get and example? All my domains are with register.com, I've never had a problem with them. -- NfoCipher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ChickenWare, LLC Co-lo or dedicated Linux box as low as $35/month - www.SpeedWorks.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 03:42, Nurullah Akkaya wrote: i got a couple of questions why do i need 2 computers? You don't need 2 computers, you need 2 static ip addresses because the dns entry for your domain require a primary and backup dns ip address. If you wanted to do it all yourself, just assign your nic 2 different IP addresses and run the one named server. (course you'll have to get the other ip address from your isp) where can i register the domain name which company is reliable? and i dont want to lose the name i register is there a way to automate registration ? If the reseller is certified, you won't lose your domain if they go belly up. Register.com has a safe renew option that will auto charge your card before your domain expires if thats what you mean by automation. -- NfoCipher [EMAIL PROTECTED] ChickenWare, LLC Co-lo or dedicated Linux box as low as $35/month - www.SpeedWorks.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
At 17:59 9/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: All my domains are with register.com, I've never had a problem with them. I have... long story, which I will avoid here. Primary reason to avoid register.com is cost. I use BulkRegister since I have about 30 domains; they charge a one-time $80 initial fee and then $12/year for each domain, which is MUCH below the $30 or $35 Register.com and Network Solutions were charging. www.dotster.com www.tucows.com www.bulkregister.com are all registrars, and I have personally had good experience with all of them. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
At 03:42 9/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: i got a couple of questions why do i need 2 computers? All depends on how important your image is to you. If your webserver is down, the browser will give the Host unreachable error which shows the machine is down or the network is down. If DNS service is not available, people will get a different error: Host does not exist. That looks VERY BAD for serious sites, even if they are serious small or personal sites. This is why there are usually not just two DNS servers, but two DNS servers thousands of miles apart and connected to different providers on different parts of the Internet's backbone: you really, really, REALLY do not want your DNS to go down if you really care about your domain. However, if your domain is not that important and you do not care if it goes down for a few minutes when your DNS server dies, or if it's your personal site and the DNS/mail/web/ftp server is all on the same machine, then no... you do not need two machines. Another good choice is simply not to run your DNS yourself. EasyDNS and UltraDNS provide these services, as does DynDNS (operates on donations only, PLEASE pay them something and don't just use them for free). I have had great and wonderful service from DynDNS and would recommend them. At that point, you don't have to worry about your DNS at all! -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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so if i use another company for my dns server i will just tell them my ip and its done rigth? -- Nurullah Akkaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #301438 What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. If at first an idea is not absurd, there is no hope for it Albert Einstein -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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At 06:33 9/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: so if i use another company for my dns server i will just tell them my ip and its done rigth? Yes. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 18:19, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 17:59 9/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: All my domains are with register.com, I've never had a problem with them. I have... long story, which I will avoid here. Primary reason to avoid register.com is cost. I use BulkRegister since I have about 30 domains; they charge a one-time $80 initial fee and then $12/year for each domain, which is MUCH below the $30 or $35 Register.com and Network Solutions were charging. www.dotster.com www.tucows.com www.bulkregister.com I am doing work for a guy that has about 40 domains thru godaddy.com at less than $10/year /domain and the support guys answered my email ( sent after midnight CDT by the next morning. There is a form for registering dns servers but not dns hosting service that I can see. We built our own and my server on SBC in tulsa and his in wisconsin somewhere will back each other up. Working perfectly as far as I can tell (just finished last night and we are going to move several of the domains over tomorrow. Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 04:14:55AM -0500, Nurullah Akkaya wrote: ... can you point me to a big and reliable registring company? where does yahoo register its name? i mean just to get and example? $ whois yahoo.com [Querying whois.internic.net] [Redirected to whois.alldomains.com] [Querying whois.alldomains.com] ... many lines snipped ... Domain Name: yahoo.com Registrar Name: Alldomains.com Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hosting a domain name
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:19, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: At 17:59 9/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: All my domains are with register.com, I've never had a problem with them. I have... long story, which I will avoid here. Primary reason to avoid register.com is cost. I use BulkRegister since I have about 30 domains; they charge a one-time $80 initial fee and then $12/year for each domain, which is MUCH below the $30 or $35 Register.com and Network Solutions were charging. www.dotster.com www.tucows.com www.bulkregister.com are all registrars, and I have personally had good experience with all of them. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might also want to look into RegisterFly (www.registerfly.com). They don't have any initial fees and they only charge $9 or so per year. I've been with them for 4+ years with no problems and I'm up to 59 domains at this point. They have great web-based tools for domain admin. -- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
