[Repeater-Builder] A DB224E antenna...
Greetings. I'm the trustee of our local club's 2m repeater. It's NE of the big town of Joplin, MO. (147.210) What I want to find out, I'm going to ask our club to buy a new 224e antenna (assuming that this is the correct version needed for T147.210 R147.810), and arrange the elements on the north edge of the tower we're on so that 3 elements point to the SW, to favor our town so that HTs can work it, and one element to the ENE to point some energy to Springfield for working severe weather. Altho I'm thinking about trying to link the repeater with either EchoLink or some other repeater to Springfield and just point all 4 elements to the SW. :-) But it's on the north leg (that leg points to the north), so if pointing them to the SW gets the highest gain, that sounds great to me. :-) The point is that there's a DB224 there now, not sure if it's an E version or not, but I think it has some issues right now, so I'd rather just get a new one up and bring the old one down and go thru it at our leisure, plus reorienting it so that we can actually USE it. :-) Anyways, I wanted to know if anyone had one here that was in either new- in-box or barely used condition, how much $$ they go for nowadays, and how hard is it to reorient the elements if it was originally designed / set for omni (3, 6, 9, 12 o'clock). Thanks! Ray, KB0STN Trustee, W0IN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Polyphaser Question
What do you do when you want to install a small UHF linking repeater on a 4-story building that has no lightning protection on its' roof? (this is to link an ambulance at a hospital to its' base repeater 40 miles away) From what I've heard, it may not be a good idea to hook it to the HVAC, either. (sigh) Ray, KB0STN
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for manual for Celwave 526-4-2
I am also looking for the same manual and have searched wide and far. Did this thread have any success that could point me in the right direction or could someone be so kind as to forward a copy? svfdcook KE5VJH --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: At 01:40 PM 4/4/2010, DCFluX wrote: The ones I have were a little bit hinky until I lengthened the jumpers approx 3/4. ---This one was already working properly in the ham band but I needed to move it half a meg or so. So I have to assume the cables were correct in the first place. I have it going now (thanks for the manual Eric)- 100+ dB of isolation and everything.Weird though - I couldn't get it to tune correctly using an SA/TG Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas
- Original Message - From: hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com I know I am revisiting this again but I could use some clarification. It has been stated before that the Motorola low band helical antennas have a useful bandwidth of about 1MHz. I was just wondering why that was the case, say in comparison to HT antennas in other bands. For instance, (and correct me if I am wrong) the mid UHF (430-470MHz) radios often all use the same 6 1/4 wave whip. What am I missing? I know that the first type of antenna is loaded and the other is a 1/4 wave whip, but beyond that I don't understand the fundamental differences that would allow one a wider bandwidth over the other. Please pardon my antenna theory ignorance Proportionally, there is less difference between 450 to 470 MHz (20 / 450, or 4.44%) than there is between 30 to 36 MHz ( 6 / 30, or 20%) or even 42 to 50 MHz (that'd be 8 / 42, or 19%). Receive won't be affected very much (although you could measure the difference) but transmitting would have 2:1 or worse SWR. That's why at home I run a j-pole tuned to 52.52 for FM and repeater work, and a 3-el Yagi tuned to 50.2 for SSB work. If I tried swapping antennas for the different modes, I get a 2.5 SWR. I then go oh shoot and flip the switch back. :-) (And on-topic, I'm running 1/4 wave antennas tuned for 51.55 receive and 53.25 transmit. :-) Ray, KB0STN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary
- Original Message - From: AA8K73 GMail aa8...@gmail.com I added a 130 Volt MOV across the hot and neutral of an Astron 50 Amp power supply for a repeater and had an interesting effect. We lost AC power and switched over to the generator. When the load was added to the generator, the Onan's voltage sagged a bit and the throttle opened to bring the speed back. It overshot slightly and was high enough to trip the MOV. That short slowed the generator down until the voltage was too low and then the generator sped up again. And again it fired the MOV and slowed down until it cleared. It kept oscillating with huge voltage swings until I unplugged the Astron power supply. That's very interesting, all right. Was this a single-cylinder 3600 RPM generator, or was it one of the twin-cylinder motor-home generators? I used to work for an Onan distributorship back when (70's) and we had a similar problem with a Southwestern Bell setup. They had a 2.5 LK, which was a single cylinder genset that ran at 1800 RPM. They switched a 500 watt load in and out several times a minute. When the 500 W load hit, it did the same thing you had described. I brought up a 1 KW load (heater elements) and plugged them in the circuit full-time, and it worked like a champ, going between about 40% and 60% of full load. Pretty stable. :-) Ray, KB0STN
[Repeater-Builder] OTC: Channel 37
UHF Channel 37 is also used for Medical Telemetry... coordinated by ASHE. Ray, KB0STN - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Signal on 158.275(ish) Didn't get enough of it, but I would that might be a prime number sequence like in the movie Contact. See what you get in on UHF Channel 37 (608-614 MHz) which is nationwide reserved for radio astronomy.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
any motorola key 2135 will fit, we always made them the same unless you ordered it specially keyed Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: gascha...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:15:56 -0500 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot tall cabinet. Anyone know the key number for these? Have a key? Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide. Thanks! Gary K4FMX _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
how many Johnson keys you need? Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: localjunkpedd...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:26:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Andy, Any possibility that you could come up with an EFJohnson Deskmate station key?? de Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Andrew Seybold aseyb...@andrewseybold.com wrote: The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they are hard to find but around—I can make you copies if you want to pay the key making price and postage. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot tall cabinet. Anyone know the key number for these? Have a key? Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide. Thanks! Gary K4FMX -- Always drink upstream from the herd. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
then it takes a MOT1 key i will look for one I know i have a bunch of both keys Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: gascha...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:54:48 -0500 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Hi Bill, The key is like a 2135 and a 2135 will fit in the lock (I have a 2135) but it will not open it. I actually have two of these station cabinets and my 2135 key will not open either cabinet. I kind of remember that some of the cabinets had a different key from the mobiles way back when. Any other guesses? Thanks Gary K4FMX From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Just because I gamble a little – I’m going to bet that the older Motorola cabinet is a CH751. This is a one sided key unlike a 2135. The Micor cabinets became a 2553. Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high power stations. I’ll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line – that’s for sure. Bill Hudson W6CBS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they are hard to find but around—I can make you copies if you want to pay the key making price and postage. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot tall cabinet. Anyone know the key number for these? Have a key? Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide. Thanks! Gary K4FMX _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
I hear you , at 72 I am still working for Motorola and am glad the old memory is still intact at present _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted
Well As a verteran employee of motorola to this very day, We have MOT1 locks in repeater and transmitter cabinets, but YES 2553 also was in many relic systems Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: w6...@pacbell.net Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:09:54 -0800 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Sorry for posting what has already been said. Lots happened in the last couple of hours. Like is said – it’s probably a Cabinet 2553. The MOT-1 is not for cabinets so don’t waste your time. Bill – W6CBS – Motorola Class of 1983 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Yep – then it’s a 2553 (I think it’s a 255x) just can’t remember the last number. They are more difficult to find. Mine is a copy – and there was only room to print the 255 and the X couldn’t fit on the key. If someone doesn’t take care of you here – I can get copies. Bill Hudson – ex-Motorola – Class of 1983 – W6CBS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Hi Bill, The key is like a 2135 and a 2135 will fit in the lock (I have a 2135) but it will not open it. I actually have two of these station cabinets and my 2135 key will not open either cabinet. I kind of remember that some of the cabinets had a different key from the mobiles way back when. Any other guesses? Thanks Gary K4FMX From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:37 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted Just because I gamble a little – I’m going to bet that the older Motorola cabinet is a CH751. This is a one sided key unlike a 2135. The Micor cabinets became a 2553. Cabinet Keys more prominent in the high power stations. I’ll go along with the BF10a for the Prog Line – that’s for sure. Bill Hudson W6CBS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted The Motorola key should be a 2135 and the GE Key is probably a BF10A, they are hard to find but around—I can make you copies if you want to pay the key making price and postage. Andy W6AMS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola cabinet key wanted I am in need of a cabinet key for an old Motorola base station cabinet. It is an old low band 1/4 kw rig. Had 100TH tubes in final. This is the 6 foot tall cabinet. Anyone know the key number for these? Have a key? Also have an old GE progress line base cabinet that needs a key. This cabinet is about 3 feet tall and longer than wide. Thanks! Gary K4FMX _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Software Users group
What exactly is it that you are looking for? I missed most of the previous feed. I work for Motorola maybe i can help Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: aj.grant...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:13:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Software Users group That was some very interesting SPAM coming through for a while... Seems like it's been nixed; more than likely Yahoo's anti-SPAM finally caught up. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Randy Elliott jan...@rogers.com wrote: I did the same thing but nothing. Sounds like the list owner has gone AWOL Randy On 2010-02-17, at 9:02 PM, Mark wrote: Anyone know what has happened to this group? It USED to be THE place regarding Motorola RSS and such... but lately it has been overrun with SPAM. I sent a message to the list owner, with no reply. Thoughts? Suggestions for a replacement? Mark - N9WYS _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Battery system for portable repeater (non solar)
- Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net Nate, A nearby hospital is required by law or regulation to replace on an annual or biannual basis the SLA batteries in many items of equipment, and the local radio clubs are the beneficiaries of this policy. Batteries in the 12 to 40 Ah range are found in portable X-ray, defibrillator, dialysis, heart-lung, and oxygen generation equipment, just to name a few. Check with the Operations Supervisor- the person in charge of keeping the hospital running- to see if such batteries are available for acquisition by local Hams. Actually, that should be the Biomedical or Clinical Engineering office... (slight plug since I'm a BMET at a local hospital, hi hi) and yes, I do get all kinds of batteries to take home and play with... Ray, KB0STN
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSF 5000 Repeater for sale
i am interested in this MSF 5000 i will take as currently tunedasking price is fair, i can pick up i am in ft lauderdale fl Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: sri...@cfl.rr.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:26:38 -0500 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSF 5000 Repeater for sale I have a MSF 5000 repeater for sale if someone is interested. At this time it is programmed for GMRS. Here is some information on the repeater and a link to some pictures of the repeater: Model Number -- C44CXB7106BT Serial Number: -- 388CUY0315 Rated Power : 40 watts Power out: Not sure but 24 watts out of the duplexer rings a bell. I will try to check that later. Freq: Presently tuned for GMRS Freq of Transmit 462.625 Receive 467.625 Software re-programmable. No key is provided since I lost mine but the lock does work. Front panel is open now. Optional equipment included : MRTI 1000 Interface Test Set with Cable Older Tone Remote available Comes with the following manuals: MSF 5000 Digital Manual MRTI - 1000 Telephone interface I am located 18 miles south of Melbourne Florida in Barefoot Bay, Florida 32976 I will not ship. Willing to hook up to demonstrate the repeater and hook up the bird to show power out. Priced at $445.00 cash Pictures of the actual repeater can be found here : http://cus2.net/temp/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MSF5000 100W (C74CLB) programmed and tuned
SOLD Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ke4...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:34:13 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MSF5000 100W (C74CLB) programmed and tuned 1 UHF MSF5000 EPROM programmable (CLB model) in a short 30 single-sided cabinet, 100W, DC backup connections, and duplexer. Comes programmed and tuned to your frequency PL - $500. Will throw in a N0XAS ID-o-matic (to make it legal for amateur use without a full fledged expensive controller) programmed and wired for MSF for additional $60. Will wire in your existing controller for additional $100. Free delivery within 50 miles of my house in Deerfield Beach, FL (hauling up a tower or multiple flights of stairs excluded). If you need it shipped, I'll have to get a quote. Will send pics upon request. All prices, as always, are negotiable. I can get other items (VHF, UHF, 900, low band, etc.) as well. Send me an email (k4jjl at arrl daught net) or call me at 954-914-3760 and I'll see what I can come up with. References of previous sales available upon request. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MSF5000 100W (C74CLB) programmed and tuned
SOLD Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ke4...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:34:13 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MSF5000 100W (C74CLB) programmed and tuned 1 UHF MSF5000 EPROM programmable (CLB model) in a short 30 single-sided cabinet, 100W, DC backup connections, and duplexer. Comes programmed and tuned to your frequency PL - $500. Will throw in a N0XAS ID-o-matic (to make it legal for amateur use without a full fledged expensive controller) programmed and wired for MSF for additional $60. Will wire in your existing controller for additional $100. Free delivery within 50 miles of my house in Deerfield Beach, FL (hauling up a tower or multiple flights of stairs excluded). If you need it shipped, I'll have to get a quote. Will send pics upon request. All prices, as always, are negotiable. I can get other items (VHF, UHF, 900, low band, etc.) as well. Send me an email (k4jjl at arrl daught net) or call me at 954-914-3760 and I'll see what I can come up with. References of previous sales available upon request. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/
[Repeater-Builder] Looking to buy UHF Repeaters
Anyone selling UHF Repeater in 450-470 MHZ bandwidth please advise and send information, pictures and other to me thank you ray Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/
Re: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: ACSSB [1 Attachment]
Just trying something... Ray, KB0STN - Original Message - From: Marcus To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: ACSSB you cannot, as yahoo is C**p i use Gmail for my emailing attachments wb6dgn wrote: HOW THE H*** DOES ONE ADD THE ATTACHMENT TO THE POST. AS USUAL, THIS YAHOO CRAP IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGURE OUT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER HOST THAN THIS JOKE! Tom A. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wb6dgn tallins...@... wrote: If I can figure out how to do it right, I have a scan from the ARRL Handbook form 1961 and also the License Manual from 1961. Both list the frequency assignments for the various license classes. You will see that, for Technician Class license, the 2meter assignment was 145 to 147 Mc. NOT 144 to 148 as some have stated. If the attachment, titled ARRL1961 doesn't show up, would a moderator please explain more clearly than yahoo, how to send it. Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH mch@ wrote: I believe the OP is essentially correct. The 2M sub-band didn't come until much later - I was thinking it was the late 70s, but it could have been the early 80s. Your point was why the 146 MHz pairs were more popular - because the techs could not use the 147 MHz pairs. The 146 MHz segment was originally 60 kHz channels (146.610, 146.670, 146.730, Etc.), then went to 30 kHz in most areas - going to 20 kHz channels in some, then the 30 kHz was again broken down into 15 kHz channels. The sub-band was always 20 kHz until some areas changed that, too. Check out some of the older RDs for more info. Some of the early 70s ones even listed the Input/Output modulation, such as 5/5 or 15/5 or 15/15 (meaning deviation in / deviation out). Joe M. wb6dgn wrote: duh-because when repeaters were first authorized for 2M, they were only allowed from 146 to 148. 144.5-145.5 didn't come into existence until the 80's. Close, but not exactly. When repeaters first came to be used on the ham bands in the late '50s/early '60s the 2m band from 144 to 148 Mc was only available to General class licensees and above. Novice (yes, Novice had some 2m voice privileges at that time) and Technician licensees were only allowed to operate in the 2m band from 145 to 147 Mc. Therefore if a repeater owner wanted to make his repeater available to the widest audience he had to keep both input and output within the 145 to 147 range. Interestingly, there was a repeater in the S. F. Bay area (somewhere down the Peninsula, I believe, maybe Stanford) that did have it's input and output on 144 and 147+ with the clearly stated reason that Novices and Techs. were not welcome. Never seemed to bother anyone I knew; that group carried on some pretty stuffy conversations anyway and there were enough 145 to 147 machines to go around including at least one AM repeater. However the only repeater at the time (tha t I know of) using 600Kc separation was the WB6AAE repeater in the foothills east of Oakland on Grizzly Peak. If they had a role in establishing the later standard, I have no idea Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8chl@ wrote: Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis wrote: wonder why the fcc does not allow acssb above 30 mhz on the ham bands? seems to me they would want to promote more efficient modes through all the ham bands. another interesting thing would be to see 2 meter repeaters go to 2 or 3 mhz splits and employ some form of efficient modulation mode instead of the same old 10 khz fm. and i am sure we will be all dead before this happens :) one can imagine though. better tx/rx isolation, cleaner signals, employ some form of narrow band modulation scheme and we could even ease congestion on 2 meters. i still can't imagine how the 600 khz split was decided for 2 meters when there is room for at least a 2 mhz split. duh-because when repeaters were first authorized for 2M, they were only allowed from 146 to 148. 144.5-145.5 didn't come into existence until the 80's. No-2M is too populated to do any changes. Not gonna happen until they just flat stop making FM gear. Not in my life time, not in your kids lifetimes, probably not in your grandkids lifetimes either. Same with the 150-174 LMR band...WAY to much gear out there to try to standardize input
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tools
I think this one is it. Thank you all. :-) Ray, KB0STN - Original Message - From: Derek J. Lassen To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tools The tool you want... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=27013661ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/27013661_W0QQampsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC5QQdfspZ32QQfclZ3QQfromZR7QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsacatZQ2d1QQsofocusZbsQQfviZ1 At 09:15 9/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: Speaking of tools, how about the specialized wrenches that can take the SMA connector nut loose on, oh, say, Yaesu VX 5 or FT-50's? Ray, KB0STN I don't have either of those radios, but are you talking about a spanner wrench or spanner driver? Retaining ring pliers sometimes work too. The ones with interchangable tips are the most versatile. --- Jeff WN3A Individual Email|Traditional ID required) Change settings via email: Switc Visit Your Group_._,___
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tools
Speaking of tools, how about the specialized wrenches that can take the SMA connector nut loose on, oh, say, Yaesu VX 5 or FT-50's? Ray, KB0STN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeaters and Water Towers
I agree very smooth on my last one Sent from my iPhone Ray Kalbfeld Cell: 786-267-7555 Office: 305-831-1488 Direct Connect(Nextel) 159*499019*26 On Aug 20, 2009, at 6:04 PM, WA3GIN wa3...@comcast.net wrote: Hmmm, We've put up satellite receivers on state towers within 10 miles of the Whitel House with no interaction or interference from Homeland Security??? Maybe because we're using GOV. towers were everything is already regulated and controlled. We had a lot of paperwork to fill- out but it was worth the time and effort. Good Luck, dave wa3gin www.w4ava.org - Original Message - From: ccour79992 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeaters and Water Towers Homeland security, as a plan, has an influence in almost everything these days. However, the department of homeland security usually only suggests guidelines for the municipalities to follow. In our area, the local government owns the water tank and is responsible for its operation and security. If amateur radio is on good terms (via ARES or other support function) with the local government, they may accomodate you. Keep in mind, water tanks can be quite difficult to outfit with a repeater system especially if nothing else like cellular is already located on it. Depending on the tank design, there may not be a shelter to put equipment or electricity if its filled by pumps elsewhere. There may be no way to even mount an antenna and they wont let you weld or drill in it. Check over the logistics thoroughly before even bothering to ask. However, a tank is a great ground plane and our digipeater does quite well from ours. 73 Chris-KC4CMR --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kc8fwd kc8...@... wrote: Hello, Has anyone had experience with repeaters at water tower sites now that homeland security is involved? I would like to hear your experience. Thanks Mike KC8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeaters and Water Towers
Water towers I have had so Experince with as I am employed by motorola more than 28 years Most water towers are a good location and are regulated by local government. And since they are already listed in FAA for the height a modification paper for Adding antenna to location is usually very easy Hope this is of some help Sent from my iPhone Ray Kalbfeld Cell: 786-267-7555 Office: 305-831-1488 Direct Connect(Nextel) 159*499019*26 On Aug 20, 2009, at 5:22 PM, ccour79992 kc4...@arrl.net wrote: Homeland security, as a plan, has an influence in almost everything these days. However, the department of homeland security usually only suggests guidelines for the municipalities to follow. In our area, the local government owns the water tank and is responsible for its operation and security. If amateur radio is on good terms (via ARES or other support function) with the local government, they may accomodate you. Keep in mind, water tanks can be quite difficult to outfit with a repeater system especially if nothing else like cellular is already located on it. Depending on the tank design, there may not be a shelter to put equipment or electricity if its filled by pumps elsewhere. There may be no way to even mount an antenna and they wont let you weld or drill in it. Check over the logistics thoroughly before even bothering to ask. However, a tank is a great ground plane and our digipeater does quite well from ours. 73 Chris-KC4CMR --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kc8fwd kc8...@... wrote: Hello, Has anyone had experience with repeaters at water tower sites now that homeland security is involved? I would like to hear your experience. Thanks Mike KC8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeaters and Water Towers
As long as it is pre existing approved there is no issues. Have fun with your new GMRS system Sent from my iPhone Ray Kalbfeld Cell: 786-267-7555 Office: 305-831-1488 Direct Connect(Nextel) 159*499019*26 On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:14 PM, kc8fwd kc8...@hotmail.com wrote: We have a repeater at a water tower site and they are concerned that they can get in trouble if they let us have access.It has been there for six months.I am just taking over getting it to run at par.They just don't want to get in trouble with homeland security.
[Repeater-Builder] OT looking for HTs
Is there someone on the list,that can contact me off list,that is a motorola dealer? I am in need of 3 portables programmed and ready to go. thnx es 73 Ray n3pyj n3...@windstream.net
[Repeater-Builder] Vertical Antenna
Hello All: Hope some one can help me. I am cleaning out the grauge of a silenet key and come accross a vertical antenna. I could find NO name or manual for this antenna. All I can find are 4 trapes 7 to 28 mhz. a label on the traps state Daiyamond. Any ideas. Thanks in advance Ray Rosler VE5RAE E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.12060 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
Re: Pagers in 2009 - why? (was: [Repeater-Builder] A desense issue)
- Original Message - From: Jacob Suter jsu...@intrastar.net Seriously... Come on, who's for a Paging Sunset? Not hospitals... we have a mix of both in-house (local) and alpha-numeric (tied in to a network that hits all 4 states of the corner we live and work in). They're quick and cheap. Even though the maintenance guys are running around with CP-200s listening to a repeater (trying to have a toehold on-topic), we can send a text message to a pager with detailed information (go to Room 497 and fix the nurse call) automatically from the work-entry system. Keeper of the repeater and pager systems, Ray, KB0STN
RE: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater?
does anyone know where i can get RSS software to program my little Motorola R100 repeater and my HT600 walkietalkies? Raymond P. Kalbfeld 16850 Collins Avenue Suite 112-463 Sunny Isles Beach, Florida 33160 Cell 786-267-7555 Office 305-831-1488 rpkalbf...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: wa7...@cox.net Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:02:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] True ValueHardware Software [Hardware] (controller) in your repeater? Yes, Works good for a low cost repeater controller. Also does a link if you want. Dennis skipp025 wrote: Re: True Value Software [Hardware](controller) in your repeater? Never heard of the True Value Software TVS-701 Repeater Controller before. Any of you folks got (John Madden) one in a box of yours? True Value software TVS 701 Repeater Controller Ebay Item number: 290289330903 your opinions please..? cheers, s. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic
- Original Message - From: Mark n9...@ameritech.net The biggest problem I have run into so far is loading Win98 onto an older laptop with only a floppy drive... A friend of mine picked up a laptop with an interchangeable drive bay, and then bought a CD Drive for the laptop. Problem is: Win95 (loaded on the machine) won't recognize the drive, even though it IS seen and recognized by the BIOS. I don't have the Win95 driver disk but I know that there was a version of Win98, SP1, that was on floppies. I also know that you could have played with NT 4.0 on floppies. The only problem with that is that you have to know what you have, and then set it up accordingly. But that could've worked, too. I also have an old laptop that I need to play with (also a bad BIOS battery) that I want to program things with, too. Anyway, I hear you got a solution (bootable Win98) so that should take of ya, too. Good luck. RayKBØSTN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater controller to be used with MSF5000
- Original Message - From: Bob M. msf5kg...@yahoo.com To: msf5...@yahoogroups.com; repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater controller to be used with MSF5000 I'm looking for a low-cost, simple, multi-digit DTMF controller to shut an MSF5000 repeater down for legal purposes. I've run across one for under $50 but was wondering if there's something else out there that's built and ready to hook up. Function acknowledgement is not needed; if the repeater stops transmitting when I issue the appropriate command, and I can turn it back on afterwards, I'll be happy. How are you controlling your MSF5000 repeaters (for FCC-required shutdown purposes)? Are you using the repeater's input frequency for control, a separate receiver, or other method? Controller make/model/cost? Interface method (MRTI connector, junction panel DB25 connectors, other)? Thanks. Bob M. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater controller to be used with MSF5000
Oops, hit the Send key waay too fast. Private reply sent instead. Ray, KB0STN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTV ch 2 vs 6m
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/medsun/AudioConf_files/MedicalTelemetryWireless/Lessons_learned.pdf Ray KB0STN - Original Message - From: Hap Griffin To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTV ch 2 vs 6m The DTV mask specifications are tighter for digital than for analog for out of channel noise. In fact, it takes a special setup to even measure it since spectrum analyzers generally don't have the dynamic range to measure it directly. Hap Griffin WZ4O VP - Engineering SCETV
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DTV ch 2 vs 6m
- Original Message - From: Paul N1BUG paul_n1...@verizon.net After transition I will have a local channel broadcasting DTV on their low VHF channel 2 assignment. I'm curious... does anyone know whether DTV will be more (or less) susceptible to interference from ham radio transmissions than analog TV? You're going to have a DTV 02 there in Maine? Wow. Anyway, what happened in Dallas a couple of years ago ought to be noteworthy... I think one of the Dallas stations was testing full output DTV on channel 36, and Baylor University's medical telemetry, which is supposed to be in protected spectrum at channel 37, the lower third of their telemetry went no signal when the transmitter keyed up. Their biomed techs were in full panic mode most of that day until they figured it out. Seems that the DTV specs allow for the full 6 MHz bandwidth per channel The excess bandwidth overloaded the tele receivers, which I think were only a couple of miles away. Trying to remember the details. But everyone I've talked to says the same thing, the DTV will take up the whole allocated space, and maybe a half meg more each side. For those 6m folks, that means that everything between 53.5 and 54 MHz may become very noisy and unusable. Ray, KB0STN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website
Generally, something that is tagged For Export Only means that, for whatever reason, the device is not meant to be sold OR USED in the USA. I see this all the time on medical equipment. If they put it thru the FDA and got approval, it can be sold and used in the USA. If they didn't, it's not. Period. Ray, KB0STN --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Brian K. Gaskamp ka5...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Brian K. Gaskamp ka5...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Decibel Products Antenna website To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 11:36 AM Ok guys here's another good question in realtion to the Decibal Products antenna. Why is it on one site I looked at to get a quote it says, For Export Only
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 Backplane Fuse
- Original Message - From: Chuck Kimball n0...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000 Backplane Fuse Good Day Everyone: I'm looking for some info on the small fuses on the backplane of the MTR2000 repeaters. I've got a Instruction/Field Service Manual 68P81096E30-C, and can't find anything in there on the part number for the fuse. Apparently Motorola doesn't think those are field replaceable. ;) They are a 5A very small 1/8x1/8x1/4* fuse not much larger than a surface mount resistor - looks to be ceramic with metal ends. I've seen these once before, but don't know the name of that style to do any sort of a search on it. LittleFuse. I forget their exact part designation but several models of hospital beds uses them. I had never seen them before and unfortunately got them from the mfgr. of the beds because I needed some overnight and didn't have time to search. I got about 10 of each (they range from 0.5 to 7 amps @ 32 VDC) plus fuse holders for each one for $200. (sigh) I can't give any of the fuses away, but if anyone wants any surface- mounts for these fuses, I think I have about 30 of them that I could give away. :-) Anyway, Newark stocks them, too. :-) Ray, KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Hustler G7-220
Thanks to don KA9QJG for a break down of what I may have. I have also added a photo to list,so someone can identify the exact length of the part for me. Ray N3PYJ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ka9qjg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray go here __,_._ http://tinyurl.com/5548tq Download the PDF of the Ant Hope this helps Happy Repeater Building Don KA9QJG, ___
[Repeater-Builder] Hustler G7-220
anyone on the list have a breakdown,of what the sections are in length ? I was given one that needs repaired,and cant find anything on the net that helps me out.I do have a picture of one section thats in dire need of being fixed. Ray N3PYJ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Radio
Outstanding. I really appreciate all the expertise here and the quick replies to my very basic questions. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Parker Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 5:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] R1225 Radio You can use a GM300 head. skydiver297 wrote: Just received a R1225 radio. No duplexer or power supply with this radio. No GR1225 Housing, just a basic radio. Want to use the radio as just a base station, no repeater. Couple of questions. How can I control this radio? Does it have a remote head for it? Remember, it did not come with the GR1225 Housing that has the controls built in it. The front and back of the radio have coax connections. I am guessing the back connection is for the antenna, what is the front one for? Thanks for helping out a newbie. Ray
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Antenna - Looking for an adapter now.
Greetings again from work. We are looking for a CableWave adapter. Does anyone have a RFS 920242, that's a 15/8 EIA flange - to - N female adapter, the coax is HCC158 / HCAT158. Ray, KB0STN
[Repeater-Builder] Double-checking Andrews connectors with CableWave Heliax
Howdy! We're getting ready to move a repeater to a taller, more robust home. We have access to a run of CableWave 1 5/8 Heliax. Here's our question: Will an Andrew H7PNF work with CableWave HCC158-50J170 Heliax? If not, what Andrew connector will work with CableWave HCC158-50J170 Heliax? Thanks! From the work QTH, Ray, KBØSTN
RE: [Repeater-Builder] newbie needs help
I know that a duplexer I was looking at can fit into the chassis of the GR1225. I believe it needs 4.5MHz separation between the frequencies which should not be to big of a problem to get. I understand that the GR1225 has either a 25 or 50 watt output so programming to the lower level should take care of one of the problems, I hope. The only other radios that would be included in the Comm Van would be a 2 meter Amateur Radio and a Marine Band radio, neither which should be transmitting very much. The repeater would be our main radio used. One question that I did not realize and want to clarify is about the GR1225 being a 16 channel radio. Are you saying that if a duplexer is used, it can only be programmed for one RX and 1 TX freq and the other 15 channels are worthless? I guess that if this is the case, I would need to find a switch that would allow me to bypass the duplexer and use the radio as a standalone unit. Will this work? Also, is there a control head for the radio so I would not have to use the Chassis front panel to operate the radio? This way, I could mount the radio and Duplexer in a different type of chassis. Thanks to all the replies and help I have received so far. Really appreciate you helping out a newbie. Ray From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wd8chl Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:32 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] newbie needs help skydiver297 wrote: I have been tasked with researching what is needed for a non profit organization that is involved in Wilderness Search and Rescue within our County. Right now, we have a frequency of 155.1 but have not yet applied for a second freq. It will have to be in the Public Safety Range for VHF. We are looking to outfit a Mobile Command unit and need a 50 watt repeater that will work inside a mobile command without having to run a huge generator just to run the repeater. Ideally, we would get a Duplexer as we don't usually have room to place 2 antennas. It's going to be tough. Unless you can get an input frequency more than about 4-5 MHz away from your output freq, a duplexer is going to be very large (think 2'x2'x3.5'), very touchy (easily damaged/detuned in a mobile environment), and very expensive (think upwards of $1000). At 5MHz separation, there are some smaller, less expensive mobile type duplexers become available. Also look at dropping your power out requirement. 50W is too much in a Comm Van. 20W will be plenty. Trust me. You're going to be talking to 5W handhelds, so you're already over matched. And the less power you can get away with, the better, because of interference issues. Since you don't have much room for antennas for other radios, they will all be closer than desirable, and there will be interaction. Keeping power levels down will minimize that. We are kind of looking at the Motorola GR1225 repeater but would like to get opinions on this radio and any others that you can suggest. Is a 16 channel unit overkill for what we need? Thanks Ray Yes. If there is a single channel version, go that way. You won't be able to change channels anyway because of the duplexer.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Any thoughts on the HYT TR-50 UHF repeater?
- Original Message - From: Dave Gomberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:39 8/24/2008, Louis wrote: For the price they get for that thing new, it had better be more than 2 HT's tied together! Looks like a neat unit! Our club is looking for a portable - their VHF unit may be the trick. Their VHF unit costs $15K Wow. I guess it depends on who you go thru. Some dealers must have one heck of a mark-up. Some folks that I Googled around were selling the UHF version for (gasp) $600, but the one I saw had a price tag of $250. I haven't looked at the VHF models, but I just can't imagine a 5w VHF for $15k ... unless it emitted gold? lol Ray, KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Any thoughts on the HYT TR-50 UHF repeater?
At our local hamfest today, I saw a little critter called the TR-50. I know that it's basically a pair of HT's coupled together with a power supply, but that's as much as I can figure out. It also says it's good from 440 thru 470, and they claim it's type-accepted by the FCC for 12.5 service. The main web page appears to be out of China (.cn) and it's down at the moment. Is it cool or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Other thoughts? Thanks! RayKBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Connectors needed Heliax
Greetings. My partner and I are looking for a couple of connectors for our club's repeater. We need to double-check the heliax but we think it's Andrew 1 5/8 AIR coax, so here's the part numbers he gave me: PN: 2216A DESC: Adapter, N-Female to 1-5/8 EIA 50 Ohm PN: H7PNF (Old number 87PN) DESC: Connector, 1-5/8 to N-Female We'll need ONE EACH, used is okay if in good shape. Anyone got any collecting dust? Give me your price, shipped to 64801 (Joplin, MO). Thanks! Ray, KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] OT maybe info wanted on 220 crystal rigs
Anyone on the list know if its a good idea to purchase a good used crystal controlled rig for use on 220 ? I'm wanting to get on that band,without a huge radio investment. I saw Clegg FM-76 listed for sale,as an example. respond thru the list or direct. n3pyj at windstream.net Ray
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT maybe info wanted on 220 crystal rigs
I found a newer radio,that will fit the bill nicely. A guy near Pittsburgh had an IC-38A,that just needs new bulbs put in. Thanks to all who responded on and off the list. This list is always a good place to get much needed info. I guess I have to climb the tower now and hang my 220 J-Pole that I had built. 73s Ray N3PYJ
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT maybe info wanted on 220 crystal rigs
Thanks people for responding to my inquiry,but I purchased a 220 rig this afternoon,from a gent near Pittsburgh. A fully operational Icom rig is on its way here. 73 Ray N3PYJ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources
I work in a hospital, so I have some insight into this. First off, at least in Missouri, the receptacles, wiring, and circuit breakers are rated for 20 amps each. SO, normally, this would not be a problem. In fact, you could probably run the radio systems entirely on the red receptacles all the time. I wouldn't try to put in any kind of relay, or transfer switch, as that's handled down near the generators. HOWEVER, I would definitely run this past the hospital's electricians to ensure that the circuits involved do not have something else sharing the circuit. Sometimes, alas, several receptacles may be fed by only one circuit. This may have been the case with your white receptacles as well. So you need to make sure that there's nothing else on that circuit that will overload things. I'll mention this, look and see if there was a laser printer on the white circuit. They have high instatenous loads as they heat up the fuser drum, and it might've been the combination of your power supplies and the printer coming on that tripped the breaker. And keep the printer on the white receps, as there's almost no reason to have a laser printer on emergency power (unless an administrator orders it). Ray Brown, CBET, BMET II(KB0STN) Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have two repeaters, plus an IRLP computer, on one emergency-fed circuit at a hospital. There are normally no problems with this. During a recent storm, the AC panel circuit breaker tripped, taking everything down in the middle of our Skywarn net. There are two receptacles near our equipment. One is normal power, the other is the red Critical Power receptacle. What problems would anyone see if we would feed everything from the normal power circuit, and if it would ever trip off, switch to the red receptacle. That way, if lightning trips the normal circuit, we would instantly feed our equipment from the red receptacle. This sounds so simple, and I'm inclined to build such a setup, but am I missing something obvious that could cause problems? Any better ideas? Laryn K8TVZ
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources
Sorry, Ron, I disagree with the relay idea. If it's critical that the radio power supply be up all the time, then run it in the emergency circuits, which ARE active all the time. Our main ambulance radio and our maintenance repeater are on emergency power, as I specificied and coordinated the istallation of both of them myself. The only switching occurs when the power goes down, all receptacles (both white and red are now dead) then the generators fire up within 15 seconds, stabilize, and transfer the feed of the red receptacles from the outside utility to the generators. Power switches back automatically after utility power has been restored and stays up for at least 5 continuous minutes with no dropouts. Then the generators run on cool-down for at least 10 minutes. My CBET rating means I'm certified as a Biomedical Equipment Technician on 6 levels of the proper care and feeding of medical instrumentation, including power supplies. :-) And, Laryn, I re-read your initial statement. You had 2 repeaters AND a computer on the same circuit, and it tripped? Again, what all was on that circuit? If the printer was also on that same circuit, you need to get it off the red and on the white. But even 100 watt repeaters with linear supplies should only draw 4 amps each on full load, plus 4 for the PC and display. Something else is on the circuit. Shame you can't take pictures. Check with the hospital electrician and see what's up. Good luck! Ray Ron Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laryn, Your thinking is good. A simple relay, 3 pole/double throw would do what you want and power the relay coil with your normal AC power. When it goes the relay drops out and connects the repeater to the RED emergency outlet. As someone else suggested switch all 3 wires of hot, neutral and safety ground just to make sure you are not connecting something that you should not. Some suggest runing the repeater on the RED emergency outlet and all else on the normal outlet. You need to check to see if this RED outlet is powered all the time and not just when the gen/emergency power is running. Since it goes to the generator it might not be. Easy to check by plugging a lamp under normal power conditions. The only problems I see is the sudden switching back and forth that might occur quickly serval times in a short period. Like turning on/off the repeater power supply rapidly, but don't think this would be an issue. 73, ron, n9ee/r From: Laryn Lohman Date: 2008/07/13 Sun PM 08:17:51 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources We have two repeaters, plus an IRLP computer, on one emergency-fed circuit at a hospital. There are normally no problems with this. During a recent storm, the AC panel circuit breaker tripped, taking everything down in the middle of our Skywarn net. There are two receptacles near our equipment. One is normal power, the other is the red Critical Power receptacle. What problems would anyone see if we would feed everything from the normal power circuit, and if it would ever trip off, switch to the red receptacle. That way, if lightning trips the normal circuit, we would instantly feed our equipment from the red receptacle. This sounds so simple, and I'm inclined to build such a setup, but am I missing something obvious that could cause problems? Any better ideas? Laryn K8TVZ
[Repeater-Builder] Low Band Mitrek wanted complete
Looking for a Mitrek complete.wanting to add 10m FM to my car. price plus shipping.Yea I know,I can buy a ham grade radio, but why. e-mail direct or via list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73 Ray
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Control Link
- Original Message - From: Howard Klino SERA does require that you co-ordinate your control frequency. It will be an unpublished frequency. Also suggest that you use a sub tone. They will probably request that anyway. Missouri Repeater Council is thatway, too. Ray KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Gilfer Associates Inc.
Hello: I hope that someone might have some information on a Gilfer GAR-7 frequency readout device. I need to konw what older radios this would work on. Thanks in advance to all the reply Ray Rosler VE5RAE [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.0.178) Database version: 5.09260 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] NASA audio on IRLP?
- Original Message - From: tony dinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know of an IRLP reflector or node that has non-shuttle mission audio of the ISS comms on it? Working on it... the moderator of the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] streams pre and post-launch (and landing) audio via http://kscops.com - he also mixes in Recovery Ships SSB when possible with conditions at that time. I've asked him if he carries all the mundane traffic, haven't heard back from him yet. Ray KBØSTN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda
- Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have yet to see any station share their DTV channel with another station. (which would save spectrum) I was looking at my local area, and there's at least one example... in Springfield, MO, new DTV 44-1 will be the NBC affiliate, while 44-2 will be the CW (and 44-3 will be Weather Now, I guess it's a clone of The Weather Channel?) I was trying to prove or disprove our local (Joplin, MO FOX station being simulcast on a DTV when they move, but I can't find it yet... aah. Here, I found that the CBS affiliate, currently on 7, will move to 13, and Fox, currently on 14, wants to coexist on 13, but hasn't gotten approval yet... So, there may be more content, but station WXYZ will still use the full 6 MHz. If my local area is any indication, they will simply add channels such as full time traffic and WX. (like you need 6 channels of WX forecasts) Yup. Our local PBS stations will be running 4 channels on each of the local DTV frequencies, the regular, the HD, Kids, and You. Eeh... I've still seen nothing to tie the DTV in with giving PS more spectrum. You sure it wasn't the fact that they want to vacate the 700 MHz chunk of the spectrum? Other than that, the only thing I can think of, and boy is it a long shot, is that the FCC is trying to get _all_ the tv off of channels 2 thru 6... nah, never mind. :-( _Ray_KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] FW: Rogue cell phone has 911 on redial
Just wondering, I hope this is not an amateur repeater placing a 911 call with an old bagphone... _Ray_KBØSTN November 18, 2007 5:30 PM CST A rogue cell phone is not accepting calls, but it sure likes to dial 911 operators in eastern Iowa. Operators at the Black Hawk County Consolidated Communications Center said that they received about 400 calls from the same cell phone last week and that no one seems to be on the other line. That's it right now, said Dispatcher Chuck Hosier, as a phone rang in the background. It will ring in, and it's an open line. Sometimes it rings in and drops off. Officials can't locate the phone but have figured out that it is an old line not currently associated with a cell phone provider. Such phones, once charged up, can still place 911 calls under Federal Communications Commission rules set in 1994. The cell phone can't receive calls, and emergency workers haven't been able to track the owner through service records, either. With this, we are pretty helpless, said Judy Flores, the center's administrative supervisor. Officials are suspicious that it could be a prank - but they say it's not funny and potentially dangerous. Until the source of the calls is found or they stop, dispatchers still have to answer every call just in case someone is on the line with an emergency. Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD TKR 750 Installation and problems-HELP!!
Hi, Jim... I'm trying to do the same thing, to cover the interior of a 6-floor building with a LMR VHF repeater, and I tried suggesting a 1/4 wave mounted upside down as you suggested, and the Motorola guy scratched his head and said WTHeck? He was still trying to sell me a DB224 to cover the inside of the building. :-( Thanks for the confirmation! _Ray_KBØSTN - Original Message - From: Jim Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD TKR 750 Installation and problems-HELP!! One suggestion is to go to a simple ground plane antenna, and mount it upside down on top of your terminal building. The gain in an antenna will concentrate the radiation out on the horizon, which is not what you want. The upside down ground plane with no gain might be your best bet to have local coverage and have coverage directly beneith the antenna. 73 - Jim W5ZIT
[Repeater-Builder] Re: need MVP VHF 25 watt power amplifier
John look at eBay,there is always one listed there. Ray N3PYJ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k4agham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm in need of a MVP 25 watt PA for VHF for a repeater repair (19D424309G2 or similar) Anyone have one? Thanks, John, K4AG
[Repeater-Builder] KDK7033
Thanks to all who responded to my request. I now have the unit working just fine. Thanks all Ray VE5RAE
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor stuck on transmit
Hi Grant: Received both of your emails, and slept on the first one. You did not mention as type of micor, mobile or base. If it is base then you might find on the squelch gate card a silver releay assy about the middle of the card and just to the right. If you dont have this then it could be the time out timer not doing its thing. Also do you have a schematic or complete manual for both units. The green back plane is the newer version and if it is gold in color then I dont have any infomation on it. I to have a repeater of the older type and trying to locate information on the back plane. If this is a mobile then the reed switchs are located on the middle control stip in the very center between the receiver and transmitter side. located about half way down from the front of the radio and should be in a small black or grey unit. about 1/2 high and about 1' wide and 3/4' long. This I do have information on.. Hope I have not confussed you Ray VE5RAE - Original Message - From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor stuck on transmit I have an older (I think ) Micor tat was working good in a different location. When moved to a new site it is stuck on transmit. Indications on the list say reed relay but where is it located. Have been thru the manuel page by page with no luck. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] Fw: KDK UHF 7033
- Original Message - From: Ray Rosler To: Repeater-Builder Moderator Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: KDK UHF 7033 Good morning. I am going to try and make this unit into a link radio and I am in need to know just where to pick off the COS signal. The controller being used will be a cat-400. I have found that the receive led goes high when squelch is opened, but the level is to low to be of any use. any suggestions... RayVE5RAE
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Mobile Radio Connector
- Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI: The 37-contact female connector that plugs into the front of a Micor mobile radio is still available from Motorola Parts. It is Part Number 0184307A89, for about $55. The obsolete part number for this plug is 1V84307A89. Question - is this defined as a Sub-D-37, or as a high-density 37 ? If it's only 2 rows of pins, 19 above 18, then I can still get sockets and cables for this connector, as it's commonly used in Hill-Rom hospital beds. But if it's the high-density one, with 3 rows of pins, I've seen it on some other things but not lately, on other medical equipment. Just thought I'd toss that in. :-) _Ray_KBØSTN
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement of an older Repeater
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/15/2007 9:10:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought manufacturers were required by some obscure law (federal?) to be able to supply parts for any item marketed for 7 years after it's sale... or maybe I was dreaming. There are such laws, but as a practical matter they are worthless because there is no cap on what they can charge for replacement parts. The most prolific abuser of these laws with astronomical replacement parts cost for older models is the automobile industry. With the medical repair parts industry being a close second drop me a note off-line and I'll give you some examples. :-( _Ray_KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Needing MVP
Scott, One will do nicely for me.I have one now,and just needed a spare for the repeater.I looked online,and couldnt find any,so I decieded to ask the masses here. Ray --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I was able to find three 25W VHF MVP mobiles. I tested them and came up with 2 that are in working order. These radios are USED!! They are not pristine, but for most repeater shelters, I guess it doesn't really matter what they look like, as long as they work. These are in the 150.8-174 band, but as with the Mastr II's they tune into the ham band with no problems. I was thinking a fair price might be $40 each plus shipping?? I looked on FleaBay to try to determine a value, but came up cold. If Ray is not interested in both of them, the other one is offered to others. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 612 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Needing MVP Anyone on list have a GE Custom MVP,they wish to sell ? At least a 25 watt model that will operate in the 2 meter band. I have one,but would love to have spare around,in case the remote fails. reply on or offlist,if you have one at a good price. e-mail n3pyj(at)windstream.net Ray Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: 4/4/2007 1:09 PM
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: wanted ISD1420p Voice chip
One, please... _Ray_KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] Needing MVP
Anyone on list have a GE Custom MVP,they wish to sell ? At least a 25 watt model that will operate in the 2 meter band. I have one,but would love to have spare around,in case the remote fails. reply on or offlist,if you have one at a good price. e-mail n3pyj(at)windstream.net Ray
[Repeater-Builder] ACC RC-850 For Sale on Ebay
There are 2 RC-850's on Ebay for sale. 180096197606 220092512332 Ray K9RI
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GMRS and FRS
- Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of my more serious GMRS friends just hates the FRS radios. When the high side splinter frequency users use ctcss they often get into some of the older wide gmrs repeater receivers. I have one question, and I know it's off-topic, but I'm looking for some help. I have someone in my area, about a mile away, that is transmitting night and day, non-stop, on a FRS frequency (channel 1, 462.5325 MHz). I suspect that it's someone monitoring a parent's or grandparent's house. I know where the house is located. I don't think there's a GMRS repeater in town (at least, none that I can find by licensing or by radio ID) so I can't test for willful interference. Also, there's no tone or digital code going out, just a carrier with a bit of audio once in a while... So the question is, is this guy doing anything illegal by broadcasting 24x7 inside a house, like an old baby monitor, on a FRS frequency? Please direct replies to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] so as not to clutter up this fine resource list. Thank you. _Ray_KBØSTN
[Repeater-Builder] OT Repeaters in Rowan County NC
This is a bit off topic,but i am in search of 2 meter repeaters that may be operating in the Rowan County NC area. Open or CTCSS enabled.I am moving there soon,and would appreciate anyone knowing of them.on list or by private e-mail is ok. N3PYJ/R 147.210 + Ray
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater Controller
Hi randy you might have a look at this site. At one time they sold a simplex controller, that is parrot type it listens and then retransmits what it heard. http://www.zetron.com/data/site/templates/ZetronTemplate.asp?_resolutionfile=templatespath|ZetronTemplate.asparea_0=pages/Menus/PrivateRadioProdarea_1=pages/Products/PrivateRadio-Repeaters - Original Message - From: Randy Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater Builders Builders repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Simplex repeater Controller Greetings to the Group I need a little advise. I am putting together a simplex repeater for a non-profit group that already has a frequency but they need to extend their range. Basically what I an looking for is a DVR type controller to record and spit back out on the same radio. Does anyone know of something available that is not the cost of a full blown controller? Thanks Randy Elliott VE3JPU Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] repeater controllers
Would the gentleman who listed CAT controllers for sale on the list. please let me know via direct e-mail,if they are still available. e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could use them on a linking project 73 Ray Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Jeep Cherokee
- Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recently acquired a 1992 Jeep Cherokee with the 4L engine 4 speed automatic transmission. Anyone have any experience to know if I should expect to have any RFI problems from this vehicle? I have a '91. It has a little bit of spark noise because they didn't put the right spark plugs in it the last (actually, only) time I had the plugs changed. I want to put the following bands of radios in it: HF (10-75 meters) 6 meters 2 meters 440 MHz 902 MHz CB (11 meters) Any other advice from those who have had Jeep Cherokees for mounting radios in the Cherokee would be appreciated. Man... if you aren't running a 706, you're gonna run out of room unless you get one of those professional rack setups like what police departments use. I have a FT-60 (6m only all-mode) and an Icom 2720 under the dash on the left side, I used one long thick metal strip to grab as many screws under the dash itself, then I hung the radios from the strip. I need to hang an APRS radio on the right side somewhere. :-) Good luck. Off to work. :-) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Minor OT
Title: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X conversion to 222 as a user radio? Can I mention one thing that may help? I'm running WinDoz 98SE but this works... hold down the CTRL key and then use the scroll wheel on your mouse to increase, or decrease, the screen font size. Works on almost every message. Off to work, _Ray_ KBØSTN - Original Message - From: N9WYS To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:36 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X conversion to 222 as a user radio? His font looks OK here. Could it be your browser/client is making the change in the background?? Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Williams Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X conversion to 222 as a user radio? Glenn,your small font is killin ushave mercy on us with lo-res monitors and failing eyesight! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've converted Maxtracs to 222 mhz. You may want to read my mod at http://members.aol.com/w8ak Glenn YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Praise for the hams!!!! - Public Information
- Original Message - From: N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe down south there has been a plethora of publicity, but up north here we seldom heard of the ham efforts, if at all. It's as if its another world. All the press is showing up here is how New Orleans hasn't overcome their problems yet. They don't even talk much about Biloxi or Gulfport - just New Orleans... National Public Radio did a piece last Friday on people in Mississippi that were affected much more by Hurricane Rita than Katrira. Surge tides carried salt water up to 20 miles inland, ruining the ground so badly that even grass won't grow on it, let alone crops. It's great to see and know that hams came together - after all, that's one of the reasons we're allowed such latitude with spectrum, etc. And public service is one of the reasons I got involved in ham radio. But the real story of amateur involvement in the Katrina ordeal has been lost to the masses - at least in my part of the country. Just as people in the South can't comprehend a massive snow- and ice- storm that paralyzes parts of the country for days and weeks at a time. :-( And there have been some Nor'Easters in the past that were pretty high on the scale, but until someone's experienced it, they have no frame of reference to compare it to. I guess I have a well-rounded experience level myself... I've been in a bad ice storm where nothing moved for a week (Tulsa, OK, 1968), and I've survived Hurricane Andrew (Miami, 1992). So, until everyone walks in someone else's moccassins, we will always have a big load of indifference and apathy... I don't know, and I don't care! Just my 2¢ worth... What do you type in for the cent? I hold ALT and type in 0216 to get the Ø character. (need to remember the expanded ASCII character set) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Once Again: Free Offer for GE Builders
(1) GE Mastr II multi channel Control Head w/microphone bracket (1) GE Cannel Guard board w/167.9Hz versatone chip. so as not to clog the list,please reply directly. n3pyj at alltel.net If anyone need these please donate to the upkeep of the Repeater Builder website. These are available for anyone who needs them. Try to spread them around. I will pay postage. All I ask in return is for you to donate to the upkeep and availability of the Repeater-Builder site. Honor System - Let you conscience be your guide. The Donate button can be found at the following site; for both PayPal and Credit Cards. http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/ post reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope others will continue this offer with items they think others may use David KD4NUE Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Power
- Original Message - From: Paul Yonge [EMAIL PROTECTED] The policy of some repeater coordination councils to insist on a 100- mile co-channel separation for UHF (and 120 miles for the lower- frequency bands) regardless of the ERP seems like overkill to me. In fairness, they do allow the consideration of terrain/ERP factors at locations below 3000 feet AMSL (and more stringent requirements for very high profile locations above the 3000-foot elevation). In the broadcast radio industry, we only worry about avoiding any overlap of the 60 db protected contour with another co-channel station's 40 db interference contour. Is it time to re-think the coordination guidelines? Absolutely. I have an Elmer here (okay, he's only 4 years older than me but he's a lifetime ARRL member and QCWA member) and he was putting up repeaters back in the 70's. He's been trying, unsuccessfully, for the past 5 years to get coordination on a 2m repeater because his location is 97 miles from another repeater (in a different state) and the other coordinator is holding real tight onto the minimum 100 mile rule. Where do we sign up? :-) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some help with Motorola phone patch
- Original Message - From: nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you intend to use it with your R100, the R100 should have the 25 pin option connector installed and cabled to the QRN4314A interface board. The patch connects to this connector. I picked up one of these to play with. It works, but it doesn't have this QRN4314A's in place. If I want to connect a controller to the R100, do I need one of these? Otherwise I guess I'll try to find how to hook up an ID-8 to it. :-) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator question
- Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a 5KW natural gas generator at my house to serve as backup power to not only the house, but it keeps a repeater and my ham shack up and running. Congratulations. Not many folks do that. :-) I want to do that myself, but having a total electric house, a 5 kw isn't big enough, I'd need a 12 to 15 kw to run things here. During cold weather, it doesn't like to start (manual start, pull cord). I fund that if I place a halogen work light pointed at it for about 10 minutes, it warms it up enough so it will start OK. My question is -- does anyone know of a small engine block heater out there? I've done Google searches and don't really find anything worthwhile. No, I don't what to use a light bulb. I want something that's safe, economical to operate and UL approved. It's a 5 kw running only on natural gas? I'm very familiar with the older Onan gensets (I used to be a parts mananger for a motor home / industrial business back in the 70's). I know they used to have a nice oil heater that was for the NH and JC/DJC models that would keep the whole thing at about 120F in its' enclosure, and that sounds like something you'd need. Either that, or check into the JC Whitney catalog and see what they offer nowadays. If ya need more, chat to me off the list. _Ray_KBØSTN Chuck WB2EDV Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 PL / DPL help
- Original Message - From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] there is the PL units and the DPL units you can not mix them. and only one tone per repeater. also you don't need the rib. I got two questions on the R100. On the board that is attached to the lid, when you unlock it and rotate it up, at the top edge, are spots for 3 switches. When Repeater Disable is on, the LED on the corner lights up. I presume that that inhibits the entire repeater. But there's a spot for PL disable (the switch is missing but there's evidence that something was there). If a switch is installed and flipped on, will it disable the PL / DPL ? And, I presume the big connector in the center of that same board is the connection for accessories like a controller? I'd like to find how to connect something like an ID-8 or maybe a NHRC-2 into it, mostly for Part 90 ID. :-) Thanks! _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need: Type N Female Chassis mounts
look here. http://users.erols.com/rfc/n.htm 73 K6PNG - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need: Type N Female Chassis mounts I am looking for 4 type N chassis mount connectors to replace the PL259's in my amplifier and another receiver. The type that I am looking for has the big nut on the shaft. I cannot use the type that has the 4 hole flange. Let me know if you have some and how much to get them shipped to 46366. Thanks. Mathew N9LV Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question
check this out. http://users.erols.com/rfc/coax.htm 73 K6PNG - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question What is needed is a source for good Mil Spec RG-214 DS Cable. How about some leads. Mathew Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:50 AM 7/31/2005 -0700, you wrote: LMR400 (not flex!) by times microwave if on a budget.NO! Bad bad bad bad! One should NEVER use these type cables in full-duplex service, as you'rejust asking for trouble. This is a topic that has reached dead horse status on this list and I'msurprized any regular reader of it would even *suggest* using these typesof double shielded cables!Ken--President and CTO - Arcom CommunicationsMakers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories.http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.htmlWe offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages!AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000http://www.irlp.netYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] WTB: vhf bandpass cavity
I am in need of a vhf (2 meter) bandpass cavity. if anyone has one for sell or knows of where i could buy a good used one please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73 Ray Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6Mtr duplexer
- Original Message - From: steve To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:02 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6Mtr duplexer Hi great day here in Liverpool UK temp 82 deg F. Can anyone let me have the email address for anyone who makes heliax duplexers for sale, and will send to the UK. Comments please on the NHRC 3+ controller. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mixing problem?
I want to thank all that responded to this problem. The problem has been identified and now i need to figure out how to solve it. the problem is the CATV system is very leaky in this area and what we are hearing on the repeater input is the video carrier for channel 18. when i put an ht on the repeater antenna i have a near full scale signal on 149.750 wich is the center of the audio part of channel 18. I will be going to the cable company on tues. afternoon with a list of several locations that are leaking. i have located three different locations in approx. a 1 mile radius of the site and i will expand my search even more and turn in my finding to them. Does anyone have suggestions on how/who to aproach with this problem? 73 Ray BTW: to answer some of the question on this threed it is a Mastr2 mobile running a 6 cavity north shore duplexer with ldf4-50 feedline. the antenna is a Hustler G6. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT Echolink, Win98 and WRT54G
If you have a speedstream ADSL box,try adding UDP 5198 5199 in the NAPT servers area.I had to open those ports,for Echolink to function here. 73 N3PYJ 147.210/R --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the OT. I posted this to the Echolink Yahoogroups and am waiting to be moderated. I really want to be online tonight for testing...have other things to do than sit in front of the computer all night ;-) I cannot get Echolink up and running on this Win.98 computer. No problems on my Win 2000...but don't want to run it on that one. It fails on the troubleshooter with error 10060. Is it the Win98 computer? I think everything is set correctly in the router since one computer works. What am I over looking? Thanks, Robert Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] mixing problem?
I just re-built a ge mastr II mobile for use as a repeater on 147.030+ and everything went great here on the bench. when we installed the machine at its new home at a residence on a hilltop we emediatly started having problems with noise on the input freq. it only apears when the repeater is in TX and it appears right on the input 147.630. I have ruled out desense because you can hear the noise on a HT (on 147.630) but only when the repeater is transmitting. I think this might be a mix of some sort but i have no clue what to look for. can anyone help point me in the right direction? 73 Ray K6PNG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mixing problem?
- Original Message - From: Steve Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:38 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] mixing problem? Does the noise go away when transmitting into a dummy load? Yes Second, can you unhook the receiver from the duplexer and use a clip lead for a receive antenna for a test and see if the signal is still present? Yes it is still present when i used a short piece of wire as the antenna. GL, Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] mixing problem?
And while you are at the site collect the TX frequencies of everything else in the building... there are no other transmitters at the site. infact it is a house that happens to have a good location. 73 Ray K6PNG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC 1000
- Original Message - From: va3vkk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Repeater controller RC 1000 Micro Computer Concepts I have enabled all the necessary options including dial 9 but can't get connected to the line Perhaps some one can tell me what needs to be enabled for the patch to work I don't know very much about the RC1000 except for these things: 1) There's a Yahoo email group just for them; 2) Use only the instruction sheet that came with the unit, as I've heard that there are several variations on the RC1000; 3) If you trying to dial 9 to connect, you must be trying to get thru a PBX of some sort... you may need to force a comma pause after the 9 to acquire your second dial tone; 4) Your PBX connection may be all digital or hybrid, instead of analog, in which case the RC1000 may not be suitable for accessing the PBX. Good luck! Ray Brown, KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder]
p902 pin 8 is for channel 1 TX also p903 pin 1 is for channel 1 RX 73 Ray - Original Message - From: NØATH To: Mastr II Group ; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hello Kevin or Eric ? Any luck yet on telling me what pin to ground on the mastr II mobile Icon to get the transmitter to operate on channel 1. I feel like I've been forgotten. It is an 8 channel 100 watt vhf mobile - I have sent the numbers you requested. I think they are correct. Dave / NØATH Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where can I find cables
www.therfc.com - Original Message - From: Ed Folta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where can I find cables Hello Group Anyone have a good source for fast delivery and good prices on fabricated coaxial cable jumpers I need about 100, 2 foot long RG214 or equiv cables with male N on each end. Need new merchandise, or at least very clean, Price and delivery time Ed Com/Rad Inc Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cleaning out the Shack.
Hello Art, i am not selling the rlc it is staying on the VV repeater. let me know if you are interested in anything else i will make you a good deal. 73 Ray For Sale: NHRC-10 repeater controller with NHRC 10-CAB cabinet and NHRC 10-DOUT 8 channel digital output board, latest firmware. More information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-10/index.php Asking $500.00 Or Make Offer NHRC-3 Repeater controller, more information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-3/ This controller has been sitting around for many years and was working when it was taken out and replaced by the NHRC-10 Above. This controller has the 90 seconds of voice storage. Make Offer. Cat-200B Repeater controller. Unit was briefly in service and worked well but I was not happy with the command structure and replaced it with an easier to use controller. This unit comes with the Rack Mount Enclosure. More information can be found at www.catauto.com/cat200.html Make Offer Tenma 72-585 RF Generator. Comes with power cable and bnc to alligator clip cable. This unit is in good working order. Make Offer. Tektronix Oscilloscope model 2213 Duel Channel, 60 Mhz. Comes with Three probes 2-Tektronix Probes (Unknown model numbers both work) and one B+K Precision PR 31 and a power cord. Both the Operators manual and Service Manual are included. This unit is in perfect working order. More Information can be found here www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/1068.pdf Asking $550.00 or make offer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Cleaning out the Shack.
For Sale: NHRC-10 repeater controller with NHRC 10-CAB cabinet and NHRC 10-DOUT 8 channel digital output board, latest firmware. More information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-10/index.php Asking $500.00 Or Make Offer NHRC-3 Repeater controller, more information can be found at www.nhrc.net/nhrc-3/ This controller has been sitting around for many years and was working when it was taken out and replaced by the NHRC-10 Above. This controller has the 90 seconds of voice storage. Make Offer. Cat-200B Repeater controller. Unit was briefly in service and worked well but I was not happy with the command structure and replaced it with an easier to use controller. This unit comes with the Rack Mount Enclosure. More information can be found at www.catauto.com/cat200.html Make Offer Tenma 72-585 RF Generator. Comes with power cable and bnc to alligator clip cable. This unit is in good working order. Make Offer. Tektronix Oscilloscope model 2213 Duel Channel, 60 Mhz. Comes with Three probes 2-Tektronix Probes (Unknown model numbers both work) and one B+K Precision PR 31 and a power cord. Both the Operators manual and Service Manual are included. This unit is in perfect working order. More Information can be found here www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/1068.pdf Asking $550.00 or make offer. No Reasonable offers will be refused. Shipping will be discussed in private email. PayPal is my preferred method of payment but others can be discussed If you are interested please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please ask questions so that we will both be happy with the sale/purchase. 73 Ray K6PNG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Back up battery
- Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's a very good price. Another possibility is to get year-old 12V 26Ah SLA batteries free from your local hospital. It must be a law that portable X-ray, cardiac defibrillator, and dialysis machines must have their batteries changed out every year. Check with the Operations Manager at your local hospital. Not necessarily a law, just following the mfgr. guidelines...Some devices are strongly recommended to change out the batteries every 2 years. But yeah, find your local hospital's biomed or clinical engineering folks, and you'll be in batteries for life. :-) The big winner will be getting the batteries from a GE AMX-4 portable x-ray machine, which uses *9* 22ah 12v batteries, and all 9 are replaced at once or the machine doesn't recalibrate well. But I digress. :-) _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Merry Christmas
I would like to wish each and everyone a very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Years Ray VE5RAE Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for custum made cables
Kevin, Do you still recomend www.therfc.com ? I have been using them for years now and have never had any problems with them. The cables they make a excellent in quality and they ship very fast. Ray K6PNG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
Should have added that the orginal cable came with the right angle plug and a 11 pin plug on the other end, which then plugs into the cable required for the mitrek. coverts the 11 pin plug to the round metering plug for the mitrek Ray - Original Message - From: TGundo 2003 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable I have the micor one with the test set already, which is retangular. The mitrek does indeed need the round plug, which is the one I need. Thanks! Tom, W9SRV[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:07:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I 'think' it should be the same as your Micor test cable. Neil Nope! The mitrek, motracand motran are had round "test ports" not the 7 pin micor plug. Thanks! Brian, wd9hsy Do you Yahoo!?Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stainless hardware
- Original Message - From: n1iic Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, everyone. I am looking for a source for stainless hardware including up to 2 1/2 u-bolts, nylock nuts, washers, etc. I have searched and can't find the right vendor. In a word... http://www.smallparts.com/components/ _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: VibraSponder Question
I don't think there is any difference. I really never plugged a small one into an older chassis that took large ones, but I build a lot of boards to convert older equipment to tone aquelch (Private Line) and used either type for those boards. Jim, Glendale, AZ, USA --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Adam C. Feuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Is it ok to replace a TLN8381A (larger size) with a KLN6209A (smaller size)? It plugs into the socket just fine but for obvious reasons, there is a lot of room to spare. Will there be any performance issues? Thanks in advance Adam N2ACF Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Waaaaaayy off topic, Bluegrass Festival at W3KKC's
Kevin, since you are going to have fm transmission how about streaming the audio so us west coast folks can listen in? 73 Ray K6PNG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Crystal pair...
Howdy, everyone. We *finally* got coordination for a moderate- to wide- range UHF ham repeater. The repeater is a C64RCB-3105AT Compra. Does anyone here happen to have a set of crystals for it for 442.775 out, 447.775 in? If not, without starting up a huge debate again, in y'all's opinion, who's the best people to send my set of 462.975 xtals in to for a new set? Thank you! _Ray_KBØSTN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] IC-746
Hi: I have a IC746 standard probably a very earlyversion. I will be placing a order with Dig-Key this week. They stock a part number UPC1678GV, and looking up the spec it states 2ghz meduim power amp. Icom part number is UPC1678G-E2. In surfing the net re this part number's UPC1678GV and UPC1678G-E2, the specsare the same. So would I be ok using the item from Dig Key? Ray VE5RAE Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.