[RDD] Alternative /var/snd directory
Hi all, I've got brain fog on this and seem to be unable to think it through. I want to use alternative storage space for */var/snd* For learning, I have setup a (Linux Mint 20.1) Libvirt/KVM Host on an 128GB SSD with 2 additional drives, 750GB (KVM Guests) and 3TB (Plex Library etc.). I built a Rivendell (3.5.x /Centos7) virtual machine and needed to keep /var to a minimum, but have enough space on 3TB for /var/snd. I attempted to setup an NFS share on the 3TB that Rivendell could use but somehow seem to have got it the wrong way round and was only giving access to the Rivendell /var/snd directory from the 3TB. When importing audio, Rivendell /var/snd was still taking up space on the virtual machine file system. Basically my thinking says it should be easy... simply instruct Rivendell to send imported audio to the 3TB drive instead. What am I missing...any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Chris Perkins. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine
Thanks Eric
Seems you too are sending audio out from the Guest to a different sound
setup..am I right.
I had a look at pass-through for Pulse but it got down to scripting
which I'm not quite there yet with.
I am not using USB at this point because the Audigy is listed as having
compatibility for Rivendell on Centos at least.
thanks
Chris P.
On 02/05/2021 18:59, Eric Adler wrote:
There's an issue with passing through USB audio devices with ESX, it's
just not possible. I was contemplating passing through a USB PCIe
card and plugging a device in there but since we're feeding across
rooms we opted to stream to a hardware stream decoder from our VM for
now. We may revisit this in our set up. It's been running on air
just over a year now.
Eric
On Sun, May 2, 2021, 1:52 PM Sojo Gold <mailto:sojog...@live.com>> wrote:
Thanks Steve,
I see what you mean.. alas I'm using the host soundcard and not
sending the audio to another server which would of course be a
production setup. I might try the VMWare route but its just a lab
for now, and I wanted to get as bare metal as I could. I suppose
what I need to do is somehow get audio pass-through working in
Libvirt.. still learning...Might have a go with ESxi. Thanks again.
Chris P.
On 02/05/2021 17:51, Steve Rubin wrote:
I have many Rivendell setups in VMWARE and it works great.
However, I am using the Livewire driver and Axia xNodes or other
Axia devices as the sound cards. I did try using a USB sound
card once, and didn’t have much success with this setup.
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*Subject: *[RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine
Hi all,
I have been playing with a Rivendell Virtual Machine.
It's Rivendell 3.5 on Centos 7 using a Libvirt KVM Guest and a
Soundblaster Audigy card.
An NFS share on the KVM host for audio files (not yet imported)
and a reasonable Virtual HDD storage space for them once
converted from FLAC to Wav.
All is well except, the sound quality. On first listening the HDA
(ICH9) works OK but has slight distortion, which is much more
noticeable when using the test tone supplied from the build.
I know this is not a production build ( I'm still learning hence
the VM) but I wondered if anybody else has had success with this
kind of setup.
I would be interested to hear.
cheers,
Chris Perkins
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine
Hi David Thanks for the info..grateful for any info or pointers. I am not aware of CAED, is there a description or tut anywhere. My aim in using Libvirt KVM is to be as bare-bones-bare-metal as possible to lower costs. I support a very small local station strapped for cash and staff. Also I would be interested in net-jack if only I could get my head around plain ol' JACK but that's for the next phase I guess. Thanks, Chris Perkins On 02/05/2021 21:31, David Klann wrote: Hi Chris, On 5/2/21 11:11, you wrote: Hi all, I have been playing with a Rivendell Virtual Machine. It's Rivendell 3.5 on Centos 7 using a Libvirt KVM Guest and a Soundblaster Audigy card. An NFS share on the KVM host for audio files (not yet imported) and a reasonable Virtual HDD storage space for them once converted from FLAC to Wav. All is well except, the sound quality. On first listening the HDA (ICH9) works OK but has slight distortion, which is much more noticeable when using the test tone supplied from the build. I know this is not a production build ( I'm still learning hence the VM) but I wondered if anybody else has had success with this kind of setup. I would be interested to hear. I support a couple of Rivendell installations that use Libvirt KVM guests. I recognize me descriptions below do not implement the use-case you describe, but I thought I would toss it out anyway. If you are willing to run the Rivendell service on the bare metal host, you can use Rivendell itself (via caed) to route the audio from the guest(s) to the host. That way you do not need to expose any audio cards to the guest(s). This has the additional benefit that if you run multiple guests, they can all use any of the host's configured audio devices. Another way to achieve the above is to use netjack. This might be a smaller, lighter-weight solution than a full-blown Rivendell installation on the bare metal. Let me know if you want more details on either of these possible solutions. And please do report back what you end up doing! Thanks! ~David Klann ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine
Thanks Steve, I see what you mean.. alas I'm using the host soundcard and not sending the audio to another server which would of course be a production setup. I might try the VMWare route but its just a lab for now, and I wanted to get as bare metal as I could. I suppose what I need to do is somehow get audio pass-through working in Libvirt.. still learning...Might have a go with ESxi. Thanks again. Chris P. On 02/05/2021 17:51, Steve Rubin wrote: I have many Rivendell setups in VMWARE and it works great. However, I am using the Livewire driver and Axia xNodes or other Axia devices as the sound cards. I did try using a USB sound card once, and didn’t have much success with this setup. -- Steve Rubin Rubin Broadcasting, Inc (p) (408)728-4330 (f) 408-503-0042 (c) 408-406-1308 KTOX-AM * KUNK-FM * KCUP-AM *From: * on behalf of Sojo Gold *Date: *Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 9:11 AM *To: *"rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org" *Subject: *[RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine Hi all, I have been playing with a Rivendell Virtual Machine. It's Rivendell 3.5 on Centos 7 using a Libvirt KVM Guest and a Soundblaster Audigy card. An NFS share on the KVM host for audio files (not yet imported) and a reasonable Virtual HDD storage space for them once converted from FLAC to Wav. All is well except, the sound quality. On first listening the HDA (ICH9) works OK but has slight distortion, which is much more noticeable when using the test tone supplied from the build. I know this is not a production build ( I'm still learning hence the VM) but I wondered if anybody else has had success with this kind of setup. I would be interested to hear. cheers, Chris Perkins ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Rivendell Virtual Machine
Hi all, I have been playing with a Rivendell Virtual Machine. It's Rivendell 3.5 on Centos 7 using a Libvirt KVM Guest and a Soundblaster Audigy card. An NFS share on the KVM host for audio files (not yet imported) and a reasonable Virtual HDD storage space for them once converted from FLAC to Wav. All is well except, the sound quality. On first listening the HDA (ICH9) works OK but has slight distortion, which is much more noticeable when using the test tone supplied from the build. I know this is not a production build ( I'm still learning hence the VM) but I wondered if anybody else has had success with this kind of setup. I would be interested to hear. cheers, Chris Perkins ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDAirplay ToH is not on time
Thanks Ryan, I'm not sure what you mean about check your grids...(clocks). If the operations manual (3.4.0) can be 'trusted' then there's not much to check on the grids...or am I missing something. Clock...well yes that's all filled with 3 min music events up to 59:59.00 How will I know what my average music event duration will be if RD is picking from the library with a mix of album tracks (long..5mins) and charts approx 3mins. I setup a the clock and populated the grid for 5 days 24/7 with that same clock. Is this not the way to do it. The station's not live yet by the way.. I'm still setting things up and testing. Thanks for your help Chris P. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Ryan Kin Date: 01/07/2020 22:40 (GMT+00:00) To: Sojo Gold Subject: Re: [RDD] RDAirplay ToH is not on time Check your grids and clocks to make sure they are correct. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 2:05 PM Sojo Gold mailto:sojog...@live.com>> wrote: Hi, My clocks don't line up to Top of the Hour. I have tried many different 'average' event durations to try and get Top of Hour ID event to be on time. Following the Operations Manual for RD 3.4.0 I still cannot get this right. Do each of the library music files need to have segue markers for this to happen. My clock: ToH event (17sec) set to 'Timed start' - 'Make next' - Transition: Play. Next Music event start: 00:17:00 - end: 03:00:00 - Transition: Segue Next Music event start: 03:00:00 - end: 06:00:00 - Transition: Segue + x18 @ 3mins - Transition: Segue Last Music event: start: 57:00:00 - end: 59:59:00 - Transition: Segue Have also attempted to get the ToH event manually cued up and started manually. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks Chris P. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] RDAirplay ToH is not on time
Thanks Robert Your method is quite complex it seems and I dont have much understanding of how RDAirply modifies the last music events to squeeze or stretch them to bring them in on time. I've read that they segue (crossfade). I will try and get my head around your approach. Chris P. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Robert Jeffares Date: 01/07/2020 22:33 (GMT+00:00) To: Sojo Gold Subject: Re: [RDD] RDAirplay ToH is not on time Hi Chris, Long ago I determined that to get the hour to time out I had to have a series of fills ready to go. I have a bunch of music items from 3 min down to 10 seconds which are programmed at the end of each hour as timed events from :56:55 to :59:45 I have time pips at :59:55 which play if they can start exactly on time. Back in the day I filled to the news as a matter of course. I just automated the process. There are plenty of instrumental cuts you can use and yes it takes a bit of effort, but once it's in it's done and every now and then I add something to the fill pile. I have a standard clock template with the fills at the end which I modify to suit. All the fills have a play next marker set so the pips or the TOH ID come in over the fade. So the work gets done at the end of the hour for the beginning of the next. It is fun to watch the system drop the play next item every 5 seconds. If your longest song in the hour is 4 minutes the fills need to be set from 4 minutes out. Some will play more then others so I make sure there is a variety of cuts at each length. 5+ is good. I also have time announcements which play during 5am - 9am and they work out fine. I wrote a script to import each minute saved as hhmm.wav which put the audio in a cut which is able t play 30 seconds before and 30 seconds after the exact time. 5 past 8 can be any time from 08:04:30 to 08:05:30. Close enough for Rock 'n' Roll! Just an idea you may care to use regards Robert On 2/07/20 6:04 am, Sojo Gold wrote: Hi, My clocks don't line up to Top of the Hour. I have tried many different 'average' event durations to try and get Top of Hour ID event to be on time. Following the Operations Manual for RD 3.4.0 I still cannot get this right. Do each of the library music files need to have segue markers for this to happen. My clock: ToH event (17sec) set to 'Timed start' - 'Make next' - Transition: Play. Next Music event start: 00:17:00 - end: 03:00:00 - Transition: Segue Next Music event start: 03:00:00 - end: 06:00:00 - Transition: Segue + x18 @ 3mins - Transition: Segue Last Music event: start: 57:00:00 - end: 59:59:00 - Transition: Segue Have also attempted to get the ToH event manually cued up and started manually. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks Chris P. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Communication Consultants 2020 Limited 64 Warner Park Avenue Laingholm Auckland 0604 New Zealand ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] RDAirplay ToH is not on time
Hi, My clocks don't line up to Top of the Hour. I have tried many different 'average' event durations to try and get Top of Hour ID event to be on time. Following the Operations Manual for RD 3.4.0 I still cannot get this right. Do each of the library music files need to have segue markers for this to happen. My clock: ToH event (17sec) set to 'Timed start' - 'Make next' - Transition: Play. Next Music event start: 00:17:00 - end: 03:00:00 - Transition: Segue Next Music event start: 03:00:00 - end: 06:00:00 - Transition: Segue + x18 @ 3mins - Transition: Segue Last Music event: start: 57:00:00 - end: 59:59:00 - Transition: Segue Have also attempted to get the ToH event manually cued up and started manually. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thanks Chris P. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] rdimport
Hi I'm having a few games with rdimport please could you guys give me a heads up!. My command line; [rd@rivhsr ~]$ rdimport --verbose --segue-level=-10 MUSIC *.mp3 /home/rd/music_import/"1987 - Alphabet City"/ My Audio file structure; music_import/ 1987 - Alphabet City/ ABC - Alphabet City - 01 - Avenue.mp3 ABC - Alphabet City - 02 - When Smokey Sings.mp3 ABC - Alphabet City - 03 - The Night You Murdered Love.mp3 etc... My verbose output; rdimport started RDImport v3.4.0 ... Import Create Dates mode is OFF Files to process: "/home/rd/music_import/1987 - Alphabet City/" rdimport finished [rd@rivhsr ~]$ However, there are no carts in RDLibrary This is where a few questions arose..(which I cannot find in the listings or wiki) 1. do I need to be root/sudo 2. Do I need to be in the directory of the actual mp3's 3. Will this work over a samba/nfs share. I also tried the Perl importer (nested-import.pl) and found it will not work as per /rdimport/ and it will not parse the rdimport options like /--autotrim-level=-30/ either. Some help would be appreciated muchly.. Chris Perkins ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Samba Shares for Importing
Hi, Thanks guys but I have found my problem myself... Seems I needed to understand a little more about Linux user accounts, Samba shares and Rivendell. Not trying to teach Granny to suck eggs... but for other noobs to Rivendell, and/or Linux this is what I found. Make sure you use the same username/password, to map to your network share, from Rivendell machine as the Linux /Rivendell/ logon account credentials. In my case it was/rd/password/. What is important as you might expect, is to get permissions correct. The Rivendell Playout system 'presenter' account (default='user') was not the problem and can be ignored for this operation. So now, when importing audio files with RDLibrary you can browse your network share from within Rivendell (not just with a file manager). Create a mount point directory in //home///rd/ for your Samba share, it should then be listed along with the Rivendell '/rd/' account, pre-created directories, such as /music-export/, /music_import/, /traffic_import/... etc. You should then be able to 'pick' files from your network share. All Rivendell imported transcoded audio is stored in /var/snd. I built Rivendell on an 160Gb SSD, for learning and testing, two questions are: 1. What is the better choice, an additional internal Library HDD or just one single huge HDD for Linux and Library. 2. Can Rivendell use a networked share as the Library. Sorry I haven't drilled the lists for the answer to question 2 yet. Thanks Chris Perkins On 12/05/2020 17:20, Sojo Gold wrote: Hi, I have a shed load of audio files (ordered and tagged) on a Linux Mint 19.0 PC, which is samba sharing a folder I would like to use for importing to Rivendell. My Centos-7 RD install is working fine but whilst the Thunar File Manager can access the Mint folder share happily, RDLibrary "Select Audio File" dialogue box does not show this mounted share. Do I need to give share permissions to the RD "user" account to see this share, if so how do I do that or simply add the Centos login user to the samba share permissions Any pointers would be appreciated thanks, Chris. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Samba Shares for Importing
Hi, I have a shed load of audio files (ordered and tagged) on a Linux Mint 19.0 PC, which is samba sharing a folder I would like to use for importing to Rivendell. My Centos-7 RD install is working fine but whilst the Thunar File Manager can access the Mint folder share happily, RDLibrary "Select Audio File" dialogue box does not show this mounted share. Do I need to give share permissions to the RD "user" account to see this share, if so how do I do that or simply add the Centos login user to the samba share permissions Any pointers would be appreciated thanks, Chris. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] MusicBrainz
Hi, I'm new in here... thanks in advance for any help. I configured RDLibrary to use CD Metadata Source as 'MusicBrainz' and the Server as 'musicbrainz.org'. It did not populate the tags and I'm getting error: 'Connection Exception' 'Last Result: 1' 'Last HTTPCode: 0' 'LastErrorMessage: Could not resolve hostname 'musicbrainz.org': Host not found' FreeDB seems Ok. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Chris. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Using Musicbrainz for CD Rip Import
Hi, First, I'm new in here... second, am learning Rivendell 3.3.0 on CentOS 7. So please be gentle I wanted to build and understand the RDLibrary hierarchy of Carts and Cuts, so I decided to start slowly and attempt a single CD Rip into an empty Database. 'CD Rip' listed the audio files okay but without metadata. I configured RDLibrary to use CD Metadata Source as 'MusicBrainz' and the Server as 'musicbrainz.org', it did not populate the tags I thought perhaps that I needed to restart Rivendell so I restarted the whole workstation as I'm still a little unfamiliar with Rivendell Package. Still no success and getting error: 'Connection Exception' 'Last Result: 1' 'Last HTTPCode: 0' 'LastErrorMessage: Could not resolve hostname 'musicbrainz.org': Host not found' Funnily enough, I had previously attempted with the FreeDB settings and it filled the tags on a somewhat little known Artist and a Queen - Night at the Opera CD, without a problem. Have I missed something here, I was under the impression from the issues on GIT that this was working in version 3.3.0. Any help would be appreciated. Chris Perkins. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
