RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-03 Thread Devan Orange

Javvy wrote:
That said, I'll sure as
heck be glad when the season ends so the Zow controversy will end, also.


We've not seen the last QB controversy at Bama.
Next year Brodie, Spencer, and Watts!
Imagine that!
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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-03 Thread Devan Orange

HuGe wrote:
For whatever reason, Watts is great for 45 minutes, but he gets tired in the
4th
quarter.

Uh.he was carrying the team on his back.could that be why he was
tired?

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-03 Thread Devan Orange

Rick wrote:
Hugh, please consider that in AZ's *two* wins the defense gave up; 7 and 15
points respectively.
That's an average of 11 points/game.
In AZ's wins the offense averaged 29.5 points/game

In TW's *five* loses, the defense gave up; 20, 30, 27, 35, 35 which is an
average of 29.4 points/game.
In those losses, the offense averaged scoring 24.4 points/game.

The *big difference* is the defense *not* the offense. They have just turned
it up a couple of notches since that LSU shellacking and the results have
shown up on the score board..


(DevO bows to Rick!) :-) :_0

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-03 Thread Devan Orange

Coach Fran wrote:
Huge, I have been alive for 7 NCs and am probably old enough to be your
father.  I have forgotten more about football than you know, as you
prove on a daily basis.


ROFLOL!
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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-02 Thread Hugh Wolfgang


<<
Are you sure?  How do we know it won't be the Zow that
showed up for the UTEP game?  Remember the second half
of that game?  Remember Zow getting run down by a DE
coming all the way from the opposite side?  Remember
the final drive against USM in 2000?  How many times
did he hit a USM player on the numbers with a pass?
>>

I don't remember, and it's irrelevant.
The UTEP game, the SECOND STRING was playing the second half because we
didn't want to embarrass them completely (we did anyway).  Also, had Zow
practiced with the first team before that game?  I doubt it.  Did he
practice with the first team before the Auburn game, and the Southern
Miss game?  I imagine so.

You can't compare a quarterback's performance with second string support
to his performance with first string support, and you certainly can't
compare Fran's coaching to DuBose.


<<
I like Zow.  I'm happy for Zow.  But anyone who believes
CDF made a bad decision in starting Watts this year must
be smoking some choice buds.  Share the wealth!
>>

No!!!
Smoking is bad for your health, and I wouldn't want you to keel over.





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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Jason Houston

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I laughed harder at this than at anything I've laughed at in the past month.

Classic.  Just absolute classic.

RTR!
JRH

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Jason Houston

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I laughed harder at this than at anything I've laughed at in the past month.

Classic.  Just absolute classic.

RTR!
JRH

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Jason Houston

[I think Ole Miss has taken care of that last piece of the puzzle,
though...Vanderbilt's eating Eli Manning alive.]


Or not.

RTR!
JRH

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip L. Harbison

Hugh Wolfgang wrote:
> Which Zow will show up for the next game?  The same one
> that showed up for Auburn, and the same one that showed
> up for Southern Miss.

Are you sure?  How do we know it won't be the Zow that
showed up for the UTEP game?  Remember the second half
of that game?  Remember Zow getting run down by a DE
coming all the way from the opposite side?  Remember
the final drive against USM in 2000?  How many times
did he hit a USM player on the numbers with a pass?

I like Zow.  I'm happy for Zow.  But anyone who believes
CDF made a bad decision in starting Watts this year must
be smoking some choice buds.  Share the wealth!

-- 
Phil Harbison
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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread kurt rasmussen

Rick McMahan wrote:

> Kurt, what did ya think about that Gator/Vol game? Didn't Spurrier look
> pitiful there at the end. 

He looked pitiful at the beginning!  :)

Aside from the close USU/Fresno State game today, it's turning out to be
a pretty good Saturday.  Gators got beat in the swamp. Vandy -DAMN- near
pulled off the upset.  LS-who is giving allburn a run for the money. 
MSU is up 14-7 on the coUgars!!

Geaux Tigers!!

kurt

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

I thought he looked perfect myself.

Now for LSU to beat Auburn, and then beat Tutorsee, and screw the BCS!
:)


-Original Message-
 Kurt, what did ya think about that Gator/Vol game? Didn't Spurrier look
pitiful there at the end. 



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

Please explain to me how Zow was inconsistent against Auburn.  Yes he
was inconsistent in the mud, but the mud might have accounted for part
of that, ya know.


-Original Message-
   wrote:
> But a consistent Zow vs. a consistent Watts is a different story.
 
You missplet 'What the Hell is that'.



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

I just love you, Kurt.  You have a way of taking what I write totally
out of context.  Of course, you're in the majority in that talent around
here.


-Original Message-
> For months, I was saying that the defense was the problem, ya know.
But
> other people said that it was the fact that the offense didn't move
the
> ball in the 4th quarter, and gave it back to the opponent, and the
> defense just wore down.  Those opinions won me over I guess.
> 
> But deep down, I think it's neither. [...]

Pardon me while I bang the ever loving hell out of my head on the table
here.

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

It's amazing.  I could have sworn that Fran, Zow, and the rest of the
team said at the beginning of the year that everyone was starting with a
clean slate and a chance to prove themselves.  Yet fans continue to
blame Zow for lack of coaching in 2000, despite the fact that he's done
nothing but win under Fran.

Which Zow will show up for the next game?  The same one that showed up
for Auburn, and the same one that showed up for Southern Miss.  

Which Bama DEFENSE will show up?  That's the question.


-Original Message-
I [God help me} agree with Bill. Which Zow will show up for the next
game?

Zow earned NOTHING but a continued scholarship. Watts has been the QB
for
this year and has done a fine job. You actually want to bench a man
because
he got hurt?

I have nothing against Zow except the 2000 season. That said, I'll sure
as
heck be glad when the season ends so the Zow controversy will end, also.

BTW, The vast majority of Zow's record belongs to Chris Samuels. Period!





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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Rick McMahan


LMAO!



Kurt, what did ya think about that Gator/Vol game? Didn't Spurrier look
pitiful there at the end. 

RTR!
Rick

> -Original Message-
> From: kurt rasmussen
>
> Pardon me while I bang the ever loving hell out of my head on the table
> here.
>

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread kurt rasmussen

Hugh Wolfgang wrote:
 
> For months, I was saying that the defense was the problem, ya know.  But
> other people said that it was the fact that the offense didn't move the
> ball in the 4th quarter, and gave it back to the opponent, and the
> defense just wore down.  Those opinions won me over I guess.
> 
> But deep down, I think it's neither. [...]

Pardon me while I bang the ever loving hell out of my head on the table
here.

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread kurt rasmussen

  wrote:

> But a consistent Zow vs. a consistent Watts is a different story.
  

You missplet 'What the Hell is that'.

kurt

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Mike Laborde

I [God help me} agree with Bill. Which Zow will show up for the next game?

Zow earned NOTHING but a continued scholarship. Watts has been the QB for
this year and has done a fine job. You actually want to bench a man because
he got hurt?

I have nothing against Zow except the 2000 season. That said, I'll sure as
heck be glad when the season ends so the Zow controversy will end, also.

BTW, The vast majority of Zow's record belongs to Chris Samuels. Period!


-Original Message-
From:William H Evans


Irrelevant, Hugh.

What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.








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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang


<<
You can set your conditions to judge Watts vs. Zow any way you like,
which is exactly what you are doing here.  You are only considering the
final Win/Loss from Zow's two starts, while narrowing down your look at
Watts to the fourth quarters in games WHERE ALABAMA'S DEFENSE PUT
ALABAMA
BEHIND.
>>

Yes, but the offense didn't put together the same kind of drives in the
4th quarter that they did in the 1st half.  See my previous post about
stamina.

<<
Looking at the total picture for Watts and Zow, a knowledgeable football
person would take the consistent Watts over the inconsistent Zow every
time.>>

Yes, I agree.  But a consistent Zow vs. a consistent Watts is a
different story.

<<
Zow looks like Jay Barker one week and Brian Burgdorf the next.  The 31
points he put on the board against Auburn were against a defense that
quit.  Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31 points on that day.
>>

I don't think you've got it in you to QB Bama to 31 points, Bill :)
But I do agree that Auburn gave up when Williams went down.  By the way,
Burgdorf did have some good games in his day I think!

Watts looks like Jay Barker in the first half a lot of the time, but not
in the 4th quarter.  



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

<<
Hugh, please consider that in AZ's *two* wins the defense gave up; 7 and
15
points respectively.
That's an average of 11 points/game.
In AZ's wins the offense averaged 29.5 points/game>>

I don't have the stats it front of me, but that sounds right.

<<
In TW's *five* loses, the defense gave up; 20, 30, 27, 35, 35 which is
an
average of 29.4 points/game.
In those losses, the offense averaged scoring 24.4 points/game.
>>

Again, I'll trust your math.

<<
The *big difference* is the defense *not* the offense. They have just
turned
it up a couple of notches since that LSU shellacking and the results
have
shown up on the score board..
>>

For months, I was saying that the defense was the problem, ya know.  But
other people said that it was the fact that the offense didn't move the
ball in the 4th quarter, and gave it back to the opponent, and the
defense just wore down.  Those opinions won me over I guess.  

But deep down, I think it's neither.  STAMINA is the key.  For whatever
reason, Watts is great for 45 minutes, but he gets tired in the 4th
quarter.  Zow seems to have been able to stay alert and on his "A" game
for the entire 60 minutes for the games he's started and played the
whole game.  I'm not the only person who has noted this, either.  As
someone I know put it... Watts has looked EXHAUSTED at the end of a
number of games this year.  I didn't see a shot of Zow at the end of the
game Thursday night, but I haven't heard any reports about him being
exhausted.  Granted, there's something to be said for a win giving you
an extra sprint to your step, but maybe there's more to it than that.  

This is why I believe BOTH quarterbacks not only deserve to play - but
should play.  They have both shown that they are capable in Fran's
offense, now.  With both playing, there's less of a chance that one will
wear out and make a costly mistake at the end of the game.  It really
doesn't matter who starts in that situation.



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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread kurt rasmussen

Scott Rogers  (waxing poetically on huGe) wrote:
> 
> And the funny thing is..he doesn't even see it himslef! ROTF.

Somewhere in the gray matter I'm reminded of  1234 sees when he
looks in the mirror. I forget.

I am.. [something] ?

kurt

Btw.  Sorry for the visual image about someone 'waxing on huGe'.  I
clicked the send key before I had a chance to change it.

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

James, is that supposed to be surprising?

You are being much more consistent about Zow than Zow has been playing QB
for UA since 1998.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I'll agree with Wolfcrank on this one Now I need
> something to Drink :)   
>
> --- William H Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hugh,
> > 
> > You can set your conditions to judge Watts vs. Zow
> > any way you like,
> > which is exactly what you are doing here.  You are
> > only considering the
> > final Win/Loss from Zow's two starts, while
> > narrowing down your look at
> > Watts to the fourth quarters in games WHERE
> > ALABAMA'S DEFENSE PUT ALABAMA
> > BEHIND.
> > 
> > Looking at the total picture for Watts and Zow, a
> > knowledgeable football
> > person would take the consistent Watts over the
> > inconsistent Zow every
> > time.
> > 
> > Zow looks like Jay Barker one week and Brian
> > Burgdorf the next.  The 31
> > points he put on the board against Auburn were
> > against a defense that
> > quit.  Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31
> > points on that day.
> > 
> > 
> > bill evans
> > Hartselle, AL
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Jeff Todd

Bill,

Please refrain from using my name in any future correspondence with this
incredibly stupid beotch.

Merci,

Slef

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>Hugh,


> Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31 points on that day.


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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread James

I'll agree with Wolfcrank on this one Now I need
something to Drink :)   
--- William H Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hugh,
> 
> You can set your conditions to judge Watts vs. Zow
> any way you like,
> which is exactly what you are doing here.  You are
> only considering the
> final Win/Loss from Zow's two starts, while
> narrowing down your look at
> Watts to the fourth quarters in games WHERE
> ALABAMA'S DEFENSE PUT ALABAMA
> BEHIND.
> 
> Looking at the total picture for Watts and Zow, a
> knowledgeable football
> person would take the consistent Watts over the
> inconsistent Zow every
> time.
> 
> Zow looks like Jay Barker one week and Brian
> Burgdorf the next.  The 31
> points he put on the board against Auburn were
> against a defense that
> quit.  Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31
> points on that day.
> 
> 
> bill evans
> Hartselle, AL
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:51:41 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > How exactly is a 2-0 record this year
> inconsistent?
> > I'd say that Watts has been inconsistent, too, in
> the 4th quarter.  
> > The
> > games that Bama has won the 4th quarter this year,
> Zow was at QB.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> >  Irrelevant, Hugh.
> > 
> > What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  
> > 
> > On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > writes:
> > > And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to
> against Auburn again, 
> > 
> > > Bill?
> > 
> > 
> > 
>

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Rick McMahan


Hugh, please consider that in AZ's *two* wins the defense gave up; 7 and 15
points respectively.
That's an average of 11 points/game.
In AZ's wins the offense averaged 29.5 points/game

In TW's *five* loses, the defense gave up; 20, 30, 27, 35, 35 which is an
average of 29.4 points/game.
In those losses, the offense averaged scoring 24.4 points/game.

The *big difference* is the defense *not* the offense. They have just turned
it up a couple of notches since that LSU shellacking and the results have
shown up on the score board..

RTR!
Rick

> -Original Message-
> From: Hugh Wolfgang
>
>
> How exactly is a 2-0 record this year inconsistent?
> I'd say that Watts has been inconsistent, too, in the 4th quarter.  The
> games that Bama has won the 4th quarter this year, Zow was at QB.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>  Irrelevant, Hugh.
>
> What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.
>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again,
> > Bill?
>
>
>

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Scott Rogers

- Original Message - 
From: "Hugh Wolfgang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I'm very serious, actually.
> Last year is irrelevant. 

And the funny thing is..he doesn't even see it himslef! ROTF

Scott

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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Hugh,

You can set your conditions to judge Watts vs. Zow any way you like,
which is exactly what you are doing here.  You are only considering the
final Win/Loss from Zow's two starts, while narrowing down your look at
Watts to the fourth quarters in games WHERE ALABAMA'S DEFENSE PUT ALABAMA
BEHIND.

Looking at the total picture for Watts and Zow, a knowledgeable football
person would take the consistent Watts over the inconsistent Zow every
time.

Zow looks like Jay Barker one week and Brian Burgdorf the next.  The 31
points he put on the board against Auburn were against a defense that
quit.  Slef or I could have QBed Alabama to 31 points on that day.


bill evans
Hartselle, AL
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:51:41 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> How exactly is a 2-0 record this year inconsistent?
> I'd say that Watts has been inconsistent, too, in the 4th quarter.  
> The
> games that Bama has won the 4th quarter this year, Zow was at QB.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>  Irrelevant, Hugh.
> 
> What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  
> 
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, 
> 
> > Bill?
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

I'm very serious, actually.
Last year is irrelevant.  In game conditions, tell me one situation
where Zow has done something wrong this season.


-Original Message-
Hugh, you enjoy this stuff too much, don't you? There is no way you're
serious.
> -Original Message-
> And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again,
Bill?



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

How exactly is a 2-0 record this year inconsistent?
I'd say that Watts has been inconsistent, too, in the 4th quarter.  The
games that Bama has won the 4th quarter this year, Zow was at QB.


-Original Message-
 Irrelevant, Hugh.

What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, 
> Bill?



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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Irrelevant, Hugh.

What is relevant is Zow's inconsistency.  


bill evans
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:29:22 -0600 "Hugh Wolfgang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, 
> Bill?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>  Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!
> 
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Rick McMahan


Hugh, you enjoy this stuff too much, don't you? There is no way you're
serious.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Hugh Wolfgang
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 4:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing
> Tide's invitation to Nashville
>
>
> And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, Bill?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>  Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!
>
>
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

And how many points did Zow lead the Tide to against Auburn again, Bill?



-Original Message-
 Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!



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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

Thanks, Coach Fran, for taking the words right out of my mouth!


bill evans
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:25:37 -0600 (CST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Huge posted:
> 
> Exactly. He'll BECOME a great QB, but he's got a ways to go before 
> he's
> there. 
> To answer your question...I'd take Zow right now, honestly. Ole 
> Miss
> only beat a Watts-led Tide by 3.
> 
> Huge please let me know when you have a clue about football.  Thank 
> you
> very much.
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

Exactly.  He'll BECOME a great QB, but he's got a ways to go before he's
there.
To answer your question...I'd take Zow right now, honestly.  Ole Miss
only beat a Watts-led Tide by 3.


-Original Message-
 He is also a sophomore who is going to be a better QB the next two
years,
then he will be playing on Sundays.

Hugh, if you had a choice between the 2001 Eli Manning and the 2001
Andrew Zow, who would you take to be your starting QB?



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

It was just you.  Vandy controlled the first 3 quarters.


-Original Message-
Hugh was it just me or did that game sound like an Eli
manning Info Comercial for the  Heisman .
--- Hugh Wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No.  
> 
> Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.



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Re: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread William H Evans

He is also a sophomore who is going to be a better QB the next two years,
then he will be playing on Sundays.

Hugh, if you had a choice between the 2001 Eli Manning and the 2001
Andrew Zow, who would you take to be your starting QB?


bill evans
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:23:56 -0600 "Rick McMahan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:  Hugh Wolfgang
> >
> > Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.
> >
> 
> 
> Hugh, do you really feel that Manning is not a talented qb or what 
> exactly
> do you mean by him not being good?
> 
> The way he lead his team back, plus, the way he has continued to 
> make plays
> against some very good competition the past two years, proves to me 
> the guy
> knows how to play. Whether you like him or OleMiss, doesn't matter. 
> The
> young man deserves credit, he IS a good football player.
> 
> RTR!
> Rick
> 

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread James

Hugh was it just me or did that game sound like an Eli
manning Info Comercial for the  Heisman .
--- Hugh Wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No.  
> 
> Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>  Need a rag, to wipe the egg off your face?
> 
> I was pulling for the 'Dores all the way. Manning is
> good, no doubt
> about
> it.
> 
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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang



-Original Message-
> Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.
<>

I mean he's not his brother, or his daddy - yet anyway.  He's not been
consistently on his "A" game - Ole Miss lost 3 out of their last 4
games.  

<<
The way he lead his team back, plus, the way he has continued to make
plays
against some very good competition the past two years, proves to me the
guy
knows how to play. Whether you like him or OleMiss, doesn't matter. The
young man deserves credit, he IS a good football player.
>>


Time will tell what kind of player Eli Manning develops into.  He's got
the potential to become a very good player.  But he's not there, yet.  A
very good QB doesn't turn the ball over against Vandy's defense.




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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Rick McMahan


> -Original Message-
> From:  Hugh Wolfgang
>
> Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.
>


Hugh, do you really feel that Manning is not a talented qb or what exactly
do you mean by him not being good?

The way he lead his team back, plus, the way he has continued to make plays
against some very good competition the past two years, proves to me the guy
knows how to play. Whether you like him or OleMiss, doesn't matter. The
young man deserves credit, he IS a good football player.

RTR!
Rick

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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Hugh Wolfgang

No.  

Manning isn't good.  Vandy is just BAD.


-Original Message-
 Need a rag, to wipe the egg off your face?

I was pulling for the 'Dores all the way. Manning is good, no doubt
about
it.



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RE: [RollTideFan] [Indirectly Bama-related] Ole Miss writing Tide's invitation to Nashville

2001-12-01 Thread Rick McMahan


Need a rag, to wipe the egg off your face?

I was pulling for the 'Dores all the way. Manning is good, no doubt about
it.

RTR!
Rick

> -Original Message-
> From: Hugh Wolfgang

>
>
> Alabama players probably know how the Rebels feel.  After all, the 2000
> Tide finished with 5 straight losses, much the same as Ole Miss will
> finish 2001 with 4 straight losses.
>
>
> I think Ole Miss has taken care of that last piece of the puzzle,
> though.  Granted, the game's not over yet, but Vanderbilt's eating Eli
> Manning alive.
>

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