Re: [sage-devel] Re: Fwd: C compiler in Mathematica
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: I think thats the actual advantage of Cython. Every interpreter can dload a library somehow. But try to mix a shared library, some custom C++ code, and the interpreter of your choice. In any commercial Ma* or Java JNI you'll invariably end up writing lots of C stubs that you can then plumb to your interpreter. In Cython it can be done much cleaner. https://github.com/twall/jna -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-devel] Re: Fwd: C compiler in Mathematica
I was not trying to make any claims. My link was only for those that are not aware of JNA and usually make the claim that JNI is the only way. But I appreciate your message as it reminds me of how welcoming this list is. No WTFs needed, ignore me, and like Ted Kosan I am out of here. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your well-thought out contribution. I'm sure you are aware that JNA, although it sucks slightly less than JNI, doesn't support C++. So its back to writing C stubs to use instances from one object-oriented language in another object-oriented language. WTF! On Friday, November 25, 2011 4:17:21 PM UTC, doyen...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/twall/jna -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-devel] Re: rebuild the live cd HOWTO
Hi Vincent, That thread probably was about the old Live CD. The current Live CD is done by Lucio Lastra, and the instruction as different. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Vincent D 20100.delecr...@gmail.com wrote: The link of the old (2006) thread dealing about how to build the live cd is broken http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/44a5160700e1f250/e014c7a9149b7cbc?lnk=gstq=live+cd#e014c7a9149b7cbc does anybody have safely saved the instructions ? Vincent -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-devel] Re: rebuild the live cd HOWTO
I like this project to create Live CDs : http://www.linux-live.org/ , but I know Lucio currently uses another method. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Alfredo Portes doyenatc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vincent, That thread probably was about the old Live CD. The current Live CD is done by Lucio Lastra, and the instruction as different. On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Vincent D 20100.delecr...@gmail.com wrote: The link of the old (2006) thread dealing about how to build the live cd is broken http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/44a5160700e1f250/e014c7a9149b7cbc?lnk=gstq=live+cd#e014c7a9149b7cbc does anybody have safely saved the instructions ? Vincent -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-devel] Re: new jmol
Hi Bill,
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Bill Page bill.p...@newsynthesis.org wrote:
Unfortunately there is no change in behavior with this update. It
still works fine for me on my Linux clients and when using Windows
Vista, but on a slightly older laptop running Windows XP (up-to-date
with SP2) it still fails. In Sage notebook jmol appears to load and
the graphics window appears but it is blank. I cannot see any object
but the window is otherwise responsive. I can right click and change
background color, axes and other options and I do see these displayed
but no graphic! This same page on the same server when viewed from
the other clients works fine.
var('x y z')
implicit_plot3d(x^2+y^2+z^2==4, (x, -3, 3), (y, -3,3), (z, -3,3))
With XP/SP3 here works fine. What JRE (version) are you using?
JRE 6 Update 15
Firefox 3.5.1
Chrome 3.0.195
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[sage-devel] Re: Clarification of Sage and GPL
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:23 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: That FAQ entry which you partially quoted concludes with A consequence is that if you choose to use GPL'd Perl modules or Java classes in your program, you must release the program in a GPL-compatible way, regardless of the license used in the Perl or Java interpreter that the combined Perl or Java program will run on. Unless the module used has a classpath exception right? Like Java does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL_linking_exception Couldn't Sage include something like this? and can somebody with a Law degree and not a Math degree comment here :). It has been a fun thread. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!
Hi Lucio, Sorry for not replying to your previous email. I work at a financial company (Bloomberg) and work has been crazy lately. If you have some time to build a new iso with the new Sage please do it, and post your version in the mailing list. We can upload the iso the sagemath. If you ask William, he can surely give you access to the server, or I can uploaded for you. I can give you access to my server also if necessary. Again, I am very interested in your work with the livecd. If you need any help, I will try to free some time to help. Thank you very much for your work and effort on this. Again sorry I didn't reply faster before. Regards, Alfredo On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com wrote: Alfredo, I sent you an email, many days ago talking about a livecd I built from scratch which is about 200 Mibs less in size and has the performance of sagelwlcd. I'm not sure if you read it and/or you are interested on it. I'm just telling you this because I don't have much time as I did before since I started working a week ago. In case you are interested or not post back in here. If not, the steps and code to build sagelwlcd are posted so if you are interested on it, you can build it. Greetings, Lucio Lastra. On 12 abr, 21:49, Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com wrote: Great! I have a doubt: how did you make to turn the cpio image into an ISO image? Greetings, Lucio. On 10 abr, 15:30, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Lucio Lastra wrote: Update: I just downloaded and tried it out. Alfredo you are completely right, this is exactly what we need! I'll follow the steps in the forum to get the eth0 up and working and try out the mkxpud to see how it works. This is really exciting. Thanks once again for sharing your discovery! I tried it out yesterday too. Wow, it looks really nice! Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!
Hi Lucio, I have not been able to test the image, sorry. I will try to test this weekend. Today I saw this interesting project: http://xpud.org/ Looks ideal for a sage/notebook only interface, but I have not tried yet. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Python and Lisp
April's fool joke? Nice. If all this fails, can you use Java instead :) On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:59 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, About two years ago we made the painful transition from using Darcs to Mercurial for our revision control system. This was difficult, but had to be done because it was hard to get Darcs to run everywhere, and there were weird corner cases where Darcs would hang. Mercurial isn't optimal but it gets the job done. Frankly, I think we have similar problems using Python at the core of Sage. I've been thinking very hard about how to deal with this for nearly a year now, and have come to the conclusion that we should make a switch from using Python at the core of Sage to Lisp. The transition won't be easy, but it will be well worth the effort, since in the time frame I have in mind (30 years, say) I see Lisp really taking off, and despite its faults, anyone who has used Lisp a lot knows that Lisp is clearly a far better language than Python in several critical ways. The strategy for switching will go something like this: 1. Forking: We fork clisp. We have been using clisp for several years now in Sage, so we're very familiar with their build system. However, they don't make regular releases, and their foreign function interface is severely lacking, as is their Solaris support. So we're forking, and will call the fork LispX. I've talked with Robert Bradshaw about creating a new language called CylispX, which will be similar to Cython but for LispX, and I'm confident we can pull this off. 2. Porting: We have an intense sequence if Lisp days, both workshops and 1-day long IRC events, where we go line-by-line through the Sage library and rewrite everything in Lisp. As we go, we'll make sure that the rewritten code is always at least as fast as the original code (this shouldn't be a problem, because of LispX's extremely good profiling and dynamic optimization features). I hope everyone here is willing to pitch in significant time to this effort. If you're not, I would really like to know what your concerns are. 3. Polish: I estimate step 2 will take about 3 years, given the amount of time it took to write the original Sage library, and also the level of familiarity of most Sage developers with Lisp. Also, we will likely run into subtle snags with SageLisp's interface for calling C functions. But with everybody's hard work, we'll get through this. 4. Sage-4.0: On April 1, 2012, we'll release Sage-4.0, which will be the complete Lisp-rewritten version of Sage. We will then get to work on porting all of the nasty C/C++/Fortran dependencies in Sage to Lisp. We'll likely start with GMP/MPIR (we may have to fork, though I *hope* Bill Hart will be on board), then moving onto mpfr, mpfi, FLINT, PARI, etc. I estimate that with lots of hard work by everybody reading this email, we can accomplish this in at most 4 years. This will be a great contribution to mankind. 5. Finally, on April 1, 2016, we'll release Sage-5.0, the fully Lisp-ified Sage. We will then get back to porting Sage to Windows, Solaris, and implementing new functionality for combinatorics, linear algebra, number theory, algebraic geometry, optimization, etc. If anybody isn't 100% convinced that this change isn't -- in the long run (30 years) -- well worth our effort, please respond. -- Best Regards, William Stein -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!
Hi Lucio, On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com wrote: I finally got your point. Sincerely I didn't know that such thing as requesting a particular feature in the LiveCD was possible, that's why I built mine. I also want to make clear that my intention is not to take your place or anyone's, I just built that distro and thought it would be nice to share it and that's all. On the contrary Lucio, we have been looking for somebody like you to take my place for a lon time. :-). It feels always that there is not much demand for the LiveCD, which decreases my effort in it. After trying various methods (and I mean a lot of methods), I settle to use: http://www.linux-live.org/ Not sure if you tried it already, a really good project. (This is what SLAX uses, probably after Knopixx the best LiveCD out there.) I would love to contribute to your effort to make the LiveCD better, even using your current methods if everybody find it better. I really dont care what we use (Flux, Gnome, KDE) as long as we achieve what you already trying: smaller and faster. But the method to create/update it has to be easy, if not it becomes unmaintainable. I have no trouble making any contribution or helping in whatever I can in the LiveCD. Rob's idea is the best but I'm not who to determine whether it's going to be taken into account or not. I would be glad to follow your lead in this direction...but the better tools you find the easier this becomes. Again I am very happy that somebody is working on the LiveCD. So on my part I will try you version and give you feedback on things to improve. Thank you very much for your work, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Before I built this .iso I downloaded and tried Alfredo's 3.2.2 version. The point is that when you boot it up it consumes around 510 Mibs RAM (you can check it typing free at the command line). After you drop caches (as root in the terminal echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches) it sticks around 310 Mibs RAM and that's it, unless you start killing processes it won't get lower. This is something that could have been addressed, if some feedback had been provided. That's one of the reasons it uses fluxbox and not xfce and when it boots up consumes around 382 Mibs and after you drop the caches it sticks in 215 Mibs. That's also why the menu is so minimal, I swear even my grandma could run sage and not get lost among the icons and that kind of stuff. Also one of the coolest things about fluxbox is that you can mod the menu as you want and it does reflect the changes just after you saved the menu file. The previous version *never* ran in xfce. The 3.4 version is the first one. The previous version uses the power hungry Ubuntu. The current 3.4 version consumes 404MB after booting. The menu creation is trivial because you *dont* have to edit files. My ideal distro for a LiveCD would be Arch, which I can probably have with a *full* desktop (gnome or KDE) with 300 MB. Finally don't worry about plagiarism, the construction of my .iso is based upon a total different process than Alfredo's. You can see the whole instructions to build it in the sagelwlcd.tar.gz file which can be downloaded from the link I posted you in point 3) The process to build the LiveCD with linux live scripts is the simplest I have found. It makes it trivial to make a LiveCD. Plus it contains a custom kernel to deal with no open source wireless cards drivers, etc. Again my points are not to discourage anybody to find better ways, but it would have been nice some feedback. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!
If you dont want to burn the iso and have vmware player or workstation you can download: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sagelivecd/sage-vmware-livecd.zip Edit the file SageCD.vmx where it says sage-3.4.iso to be the name of your iso. Then just run it inside vmware. You can also try: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/index.html Regards, Alfredo On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net wrote: This looks like a great idea, but has anybody had any luck with this? I've burned one CD, and on two very different machines, it has hung trying to setup networking at the same place - an nm-system-settings command, where I'm reasonable sure from the rest of the command that the nm refers to Network Manager. Before I go burn some more coasters and reboot more machines, I thought I'd check to see if anybody else had either success or the same problem. Thanks, Rob On Mar 19, 1:31 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Lucio Lastra luciolas...@gmail.com Date: 2009/3/19 Subject: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO! To: William Stein wst...@gmail.com William, there it goes: http://diego.qualisyss.com/joomla/index.php I hope you enjoy it. Please feel free to comment, question and challenge it :) You may forward it to the SAGE-devel list. As always I'll be glad to read your opinion about it. Greetings, Lucio. P.S.: Any downloads should be done in between 16 and 7 hs. (afternoon to next day morning) Ours is taken from GMT - 3 (Montevideo, Uruguay time). -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washingtonhttp://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)
Some other similar libraries (some actually inspired by FLOT): http://code.google.com/p/protochart/ http://solutoire.com/flotr/ http://www.lutanho.net/svgvml3d/index.html http://dragan.yourtree.org/code/canvas-3d-graph/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Windows Sage Project
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:46 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Anyway, that was a little less than a year ago and I have so far heard zero complaints about Windows 7 breaking the binary API of code. Given that the beta has been downloaded a couple million times from MS themselves as well as probably also quite often per torrent from other places I am sure if this was an issue it would have made it to slashdot by now. So I would disregard the content of that article unless someone points me to concrete proof :) Read this article some time ago, but looks very related to your last post: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Notebook editing and interactive plotting (jquery?)
Hi Kenny On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Kenny masso.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any good reason for using flotr, protochart or any other instead of flot?? Just wanted to point out some other libraries available. I was under the impression you just started looking at some way of doing this, but I see in emails from Maurizio in this thread that you have some code already with Flot. These are some of the libraries I have looked at before (some with 3D capabilities) to do some plotting for Axiom, but did not get to decide on one (including Flot). Good luck on your work. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: For everything else you should consider JNI (that's the mechanism to call native C code and how all basic java language features are implemented) By the way you may consider using JNA to access native libraries. I have used it to access the Win32 api and it works very well. https://jna.dev.java.net/ JNA provides Java programs easy access to native shared libraries (DLLs on Windows) without writing anything but Java code—no JNI or native code is required. This functionality is comparable to Windows' Platform/Invoke and Python's ctypes. Access is dynamic at runtime without code generation --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage patch licenses
This line (third paragraph) needs to be changed: You accept and agree to the following terms and conditions for Your present and future Contributions submitted to Google. Except for the license granted herein to Google and recipients of software distributed by Google, You reserve all right, title, and interest in and to Your Contributions. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:33 AM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:41 AM, koffie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we are now bussy discussing copyright and licence issues. (How) is the google CLA licenced? I.e. is it legal to make an almost litteral copy of it and use it for sage purposes ;) There is a link at the bottom of http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/sagefiles/sage-individual-cla.html to the google cla. I dropped some conditions (eg, on transferring patents and on allowing distribution of the contribution, since that is part of the GPL). Otherwise, it is similar. Maarten --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Sage in a USB drive
There has been some requests to know if SAGE can be installed as a bootable USB drive. 1) Download http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sagelivecd/sage_livecd.zip Inside the zip there are two directories: boot and SAGE as in: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sagelivecd/sage_livecd/ 2) Copy these directories to your usb drive. inside boot there are these two files: bootinst.sh and bootinst.bat 3) Run the one according to your platform. Make sure you are running these scripts inside your mounted usb partition. It will ask you to confirm the location. 4) After a few seconds you should be able to boot with your USB drive. Please let me know if these instructions work fine for you. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: gphone
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:02 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Harald Schilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, since it is using android and therefore you can only code inside the dalvik java vm and not natively, there will never be a port imo. Yes, Sage can of course never run under java. Has anybody ever tried to run Sage with Jython? (just curious). http://www.jython.org/Project/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: gphone
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:25 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.jython.org/Project/ This is impossible and makes no sense, since Jython can only run Java/Python programs, but Sage is a C/C++/Assembler/Fortran/Python/Lisp program. Mea culpa. Forgot about the C layer in Sage. I was thinking more of a Sage *lite* version that has been mentioned here. Scratch my previous comment. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: LiveCD 3.1.1
Thank you David for the feedback. The LiveCD is open to many more customizations (including making it smaller). So please, anything they think it should be changed, let me know. Are your students using the Vmware option also? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My students are finding this very useful. Thank you Alfredo! On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a LiveCD (Ubuntu based) of 3.1.1, if anybody wants to try it. A vmware image that runs the livecd is included. http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sagelivecd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: LiveCD 3.1.1
Hi Jason, On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Jason Grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded it to try it. It looks very nice. However, on my Thinkpad A31, the numlock is activated and I can't deactivate it. This means that I lose about half of the keyboard because the numeric keypad is integrated with the keyboard. The numlock seems to work fine for my standard Ubuntu install (which also has some thinkpad modules loaded in the kernel). Another option might be to disable the numlock from being on at startup. Another option might be to add the following to /etc/X11/Xmodmap (as noted at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work#NumLock): keycode 77 = Num_Lock Do you have a preference of what to do? I can try and test whatever solution you think is best, Alfredo. Thanks so much for your work on this! Thank you for debugging this. Did you try modifying the file in the livecd? I think it is missing in the docs that the password for the user/sudo is doyen. Please let me know if it works and I will update the iso. Thank you. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Comparing complex numbers
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Fredrik Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Nils Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it break Python too much if comparison would simply throw an exception in these cases? Hardly, considering that this is what Python itself does: 1+1j 1-1j Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: no ordering relation is defined for complex numbers http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-python-elegance-1.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] LiveCD 3.1.1
Here is a LiveCD (Ubuntu based) of 3.1.1, if anybody wants to try it. A vmware image that runs the livecd is included. http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sagelivecd --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: ISSAC abstract
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea to use a Live CD is a very good one. It is good when people have the opportunity to try sage right on the spot. Is there anyone in the list that can share binaries of Sage 3.x for Fedora Core 3 (a higher FC may work, but I need to test it) ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Project
Hi William, Given that I started this thread, I will try to share some of my ideas regarding your questions. I am not an Axiom developer, probably Bill Page can answer these questions better than anybody. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sage is not going away (It should not go away!) and I think the Axiom community needs to deal with how it should interact with Sage in the I hope Sage doesn't go away :-), since I really like open source math software. Certainly improving Sage/Axiom community interaction would be good. One thing it will be good to start differentiating the projects. Like currently the interface to Sage uses Fricas but it says Axiom...I know this is annoying but I think it is something it should be done. This also applies to OpenAxiom. The part of Sage that deals with the web interface is written in pure Python and depends only on Python, Twisted, and Pexpect. At present it is somewhat tightly integrated into the Sage distribution. But this is only *temporary*, which we intend to change in the future, most likely this summer. Thus if you just want to have an Axiom GUI and or web notebook interface, you could just ship or depend on Python+Twisted+Pexpect+a small part of Sage. There is also Knoboo by some other Sage developers, which isn't as stable and full featured (yet!), but looks very nice: http://knoboo.com/ An this is very good news. In my opinion the Sage Notebook can become the default interface to all of these systems ... and by promoting it in this way you can find many more developers from other projects, so having the Sage Notebook as a separate but related project like you did with Cython will be good. Of course you would need somebody to take the lead (Alex maybe? :-). I don't understand the Axiom distribution enough to understand how big it is, but my impression is that it is *also* huge. Looking in the src/src/algebra directory there are many hundreds of thousands of lines of code (over 300,000 distinct lines just of How does the fricas/axiom source code layout work? Is it all written in pamphlets that lisp is generated from? Anyway, I would love if somebody who knows what they are talking about regarding axiom (not me!) would explain what the human-written/readable code parts of the axiom distro are and roughly how big each is, in some sense. Or just point me to an article or wiki page about this. And who are some of the Axiom original authors? Some files have headers like: ++ Author: Grabmeier, Gschnitzer, Williamson ++ Date Created: 1987 ++ Date Last Updated: July 1990 I wonder who those guys were...? The issue of the size came about because of if we want to use the Sage notebook. The other thing was for Axiom or Fricas or OpenAxiom to replace Maxima in Sage, but I know there is not enough lobbying power :-) for this to happen. This is an area where I think the Sage project could really use help from some of the Fricas people; namely it would be great if we could get Maxima to build on ECLS, since then we could get rid of clisp completely. Since Axiom has been ported to ECLS, maybe Waldek or whoever could help a little with getting Maxima to run on ECLS. I would think that Waldek will help to get Fricas running in Sage as a standard component. That will be a good way of keeping a system like Axiom alive. You are not mistaken that Axiom does have interesting and huge packages. You guys could certainly make a version of Sage that includes Axiom along with anything extra and built however you want, with maybe some Axiom-specific enhancements.Just install Sage, install axiom into it, and type sage -bdist sage-axiom-3.0 and look in your dist/ subdirectory for the resulting binary. You mean Fricas or OpenAxiom right :-) I can't explain to you why Axiom definitely hasn't been made a part of Sage, and that it is unlikely to happen as far as I can tell. Probably one of the most honest reasons is that I guess few of the active Sage developers are also Axiom users/developers, so maybe we're ignorant. I don't know. Nowadays, nothing ever gets into Sage by just hoping a lot. Usually somebody has to really really want it, make many many compelling arguments, demonstrate use cases, offer to work hard to solve problems that come up with integration of the component into Sage, etc. Also, we have pretty strict rules about platforms that have to be fully supported. But isn't Axiom like the mac daddy off all CAS or is this all vapor ware??? Isn't Axiom better than Maxima? or this is not the case anymore? I say this because maybe many people out there can show why Axiom would be useful. Didn't Bill convince you at Sage Days :-) b) merge our community into the Sage community Yes, that would be great too. I think there should just be one big community of open source
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
At some point it was easy to get one if you were developing a possible interface or program to enhance the laptop. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_Program Not sure after the release how is now done. Regards, Alfredo On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. Ditto. I do own an XO machine so possibly can at least do some testing. How did you get that? I want one. Now I think you might have to go to ebay or something. Before last Xmas OLPC offered a 1 for 2 deal, where you bought 2, they sent you 1, and gave the other one to a child somewhere. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction
On Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM, Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same can be said for http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE-intro-Spanish Can anyone tell me where is the English version of this document if there is one. Thank you, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction
Thank you David. Is the wiki down? On Jan 20, 2008 5:38 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's at http://wiki.sagemath.org/A_short_introduction_to_SAGE I updated it a bit a few days ago but it could use more editing. On Jan 20, 2008 2:51 PM, Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM, Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same can be said for http://wiki.sagemath.org/SAGE-intro-Spanish Can anyone tell me where is the English version of this document if there is one. Thank you, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction
On Jan 20, 2008 8:37 PM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Restarting it as suggested by William did teh trick. Note that instead of LaTeX we no use jsmath fonts. Thanks. I think links to these introductions in different languages should be in the main page or in the frontpage of the wiki. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: First Sage Screencast
On Jan 17, 2008 11:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sagemath.org/screen_shots Maybe a link to some of the google videos of Sage can be added here. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sage+mathsitesearch= Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Rosetta translations
On Jan 5, 2008 5:37 AM, Fabio Tonti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I partially agree. I must admit that this is a good point. But now just another idea (yes I do like live cds): if Sage gets into Debian, making a live cd should be no problem at all!??? Or am I missing something? Not really. The problem is not of Sage being in any distro. The two important factors are what tools to use to create the livecd and the fast development cycle of Sage (the livecd needs to be updated frequently). Also, creating a livedvd is less of a challenge, but a livecd with a desktop environment, and a program the size of Sage (because of its many components) can take some effort. But of course it can be done (there is an old Sage graphical livecd around), but we need more people actually wanting it. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.9 VMWare image released
On Dec 17, 2007 6:41 PM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks to Ted Kosan we now have a 2.9 VMWare image available for download at sagemath.org. It has been mirrored out to sage.math.washington.edu and modular.fas.harvard.edu. It is about 70mb larger than the 2.8.15 image, but I am not sure if that is caused by the additions of R, ATLAS and PolyBori or something else. For now I left the 2.8.15 image on the server. William: I assume we should delete it, but I am waiting until 2.9 has been mirrored out more wildly. I forgot to mention in the other thread also, that a livecd image can make the vmware image much smaller than what it is now, and have a desktop environment as a plus. Of course another option would be to use DSL like William suggested, but this probably will require more work (compiling Sage, etc.) Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Rosetta translations
On Dec 29, 2007 3:34 AM, mabshoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Sage is effectively (or, rather much more effectively) using the same strategy of making all of the systems available I thought it might be worthwhile to update the document with Sage information. You might consider making a Live CD of Sage. Doyen contains instructions and Alfredo Portes does excellent work. He has carefully documented the build process. We used to have a live CD version, but the effort faltered, too. It might be worth a try to recruit somebody around here who would like to do that job. I looked at the Doyen project on sf.net and I couldn't find any files, except a bunch of Axiom files and art work in SVN. I guess http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/ would be a better source of information ;) Given that I was involved in the effort for a live cd for Sage, I would like to say something about it. I did make a livecd (graphical for sage), but I did not feel in the list any interest in it. I sent an email and there was no answer. I still think Tim's idea for Doyen is great, and currently there are more tools to create live cds than when he started the project. I consider the iso to be more versatile than the current Sage vmare image, because the iso can also be used inside the vmware or be burned and boot with it if the user does not have such a program or do not want to install it. Doyen and Sage livecd have been dormant for a while now, but I surely offer my help to do this if there is any interest in it. Regards, Alfredo Portes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: SAGE
On Dec 9, 2007 10:54 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He actually did make a live cd for sage last year, but it hasn't been maintained. It's here: http://modular.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/ I really apologize for this. It was really time consuming to keep it upto date, and different versions of Doyen with Axiom (branches) and maybe now also Fricas and OpenAxiom. I have been looking into other ideas to create the livecd and easier to maintain it. One was this project: http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/ It is written in python and targeted to Ubuntu. The only downside is that is GUI based and the project seems dead currently. It would be nice to have in Sage something like createlivecd() and the iso is created for you of the current version of Sage. One project that is in line with Doyen is Fedora Spins: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins It would be nice to have a spin just dedicated to Computer Algebra Systems. I just noticed that there is a Spanish version of some version of the tutorial there. I better update my answer to the last email I just sent. What a strange coincidence. This is a version I started, given that the method of using Google translations is good to have an idea of Sage, but it changes many of the mathematical terms in the tutorial. I hope to get some time to finish it. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: sage spanish translation
On Dec 9, 2007 11:07 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's weird, but I was just responding to something else on sage-devel, which is completely unrelated, and I ran across this: http://modular.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/ In there, there is some old spanish translation of the tutorial. I don't know how complete or useful it is http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ I do not think is very useful in its current state. I will give it another try. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Secure Notebook Deployment
And yes, I know, if only I would release a SageLite that was the sage notebook without the hard-to-build Sage math library, then all kinds of unix gurus would just solve all these problems for me (since then the notebook would be popular and independently interesting beyond Sage). I really want to do that. Yes please. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: sagelite
+1 for this idea. On 8/21/07, Dan Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I definitely think factoring out *just* the notebook would be a wonderful gift to the community. Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Science calls Sage a supercomputer
Do we have to promote our work this way? We are not promoting it this way -- I had nothing to do with it, nor did anybody else on sage-devel. I think this was kind of a rhetorical question by Bill. I think what Bill is saying is that the press release did not try to find out more about the software behind the science, in this case the Sage, not that you or any developer tried to promoted. It is obvious this is was not the case, by not knowing that SAGE is not a supercomputer. In a similar note the wikipedia entry on the E8 group actually has a better description than the article from Science Magazine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E8_(mathematics) The final calculation was carried out on an 8-core AMD machine with 64 gigabytes of RAM, run by William Stein at the University of Washington.[7] The group is working on the larger task of producing an atlas of Lie groups and representations. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Science calls Sage a supercomputer
The final calculation was carried out on an 8-core AMD machine with 64 gigabytes of RAM, run by William Stein at the University of Washington.[7] The group is working on the larger task of producing an atlas of Lie groups and representations. Ah... it's always instructive to look at the history of a wikipedia page. It used to say: The final calculation was carried out using William Stein's SAGE system at University of Washington. The correction was made by yours truly, less than 24 hours ago. I would have imagined that somebody that knows the project wrote it :-). Thanks for the clarification. This was the previous entry: The final calculation was carried out using William Stein's SAGE system at University of Washington, which is still a better description than the article on my opinion. Too bad the Science Magazine article cannot be edit :-). Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: sage calculus
I'm also wondering what are the most common usage methods of SAGE: 1) notebook 2) command line sage prompt 3) file.sage or file.py scripts Other methods??? Anyone using the Live CD ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: translations
I was wondering what the purpose of those translations would be. Because if you really want to use SAGE you have to speak English (for now). So if somebody who doesn't speak English is convinced to try SAGE because of such a tutorial he will not be able to use SAGE afterward. I have to disagree. First this can be used as a promotional method, and increase the user base, which maybe later can help to translate Sage. Many Latin America countries just can get access to software written in English, and that doesn't stop them from using the software. Now consider Sage, which is a mathematical software, isn't math universal? I will be more than glad to translate to Spanish, even when there is probably other Spanish speakers in this list. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Re: Sage Notebook CD
An image of the Live CD with Sage 1.4.1 is in: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sage-live-server-1.4.1.iso On 10/20/06, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SAGE Live CD howto's etc... see below. --- Forwarded message --- From: Alfredo Portes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: Sage Notebook CD Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:18:25 -0700 This is a very basic howto on creating the a new cd image: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/README The whole environment to create a new cd is in: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/alfredo/sage-live-server/ as explained in the README file. I will work on adding more documentation. If you need more information or want me to change something, please let me know. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Re: Sage Notebook CD
Thank you Bill. I will also wonder if anybody burned the Live CD (not in the virtual machine) and if it worked properly I untarred the tar.gz file and burned just the iso image to a CD. I booted the CD on a 2nd workstation attached to the same local network as my desktop workstation. (I think this is the same thing that David Joyner reported.) The CD booted as expected into a root # prompt with a message saying that Sage Notebook was running at the ip address assigned to the 2nd workstation. When I used my Windows desktop with FireFox to access that ip address, the Sage Notebook worked fine. This is what I wanted to know. I just tested inside vmware. Regards, Alfredo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
